Speaker 1: Callarogas shock media boy.
Speaker 2: There is so much going on with podcasting and comedy
Speaker 2: high I'm Johnny Mack in a busy Wednesday with your
Speaker 2: daily comedy news. Is all right? The big one? Mark
Speaker 2: Maren kind of shockingly announced that WTF with Mark Maren,
Speaker 2: his podcast that's been around for sixteen years, will end
Speaker 2: this fall. On Monday's episode with John mulaney and I
Speaker 2: did pull some clips, Maren said, WTF is coming to
Speaker 2: an end, and it's our decision. He made it quite
Speaker 2: clear that this was a co decision with producer Brendan McDonald.
Speaker 2: He was very very clear about that. Maren said, we'll
Speaker 2: have our final episode sometime in the fall. The podcast
Speaker 2: turns sixteen years old on September first. More than sixteen
Speaker 2: hundred episodes. Probably the most notable one was Barack Obama
Speaker 2: in the Garage. I actually use that to teach my
Speaker 2: college students on this is how you do it. I'm
Speaker 2: going to miss the show a lot. I find Maren
Speaker 2: very easy on the ears, the conversations always good. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of weeks where Maren has the same
Speaker 2: guest as someone else, for example, John Maliney and the
Speaker 2: Maren version of it is just better. Maren explained. It
Speaker 2: wasn't some kind of difficult decision necessarily, neither me nor Brendan.
Speaker 2: We're the only people in charge of this operation at
Speaker 2: every level. We both realized together that we were done.
Speaker 2: All right, let's listen to Mark Maren explain it.
Speaker 3: And this started, you know, the old garage, the you know,
Speaker 3: just no one knew what a podcast was. I was
Speaker 3: coming out of a horrendous divorce. I was wanting to
Speaker 3: figure out how to continue living my life. Things were
Speaker 3: not looking good for me. Brendan MacDonald my producer who
Speaker 3: I'd worked with for years on other things radio and
Speaker 3: streaming related. And when Brandon and I started this saying,
Speaker 3: all we knew was we were going to do it
Speaker 3: every Monday and Thursday, and there was no way to
Speaker 3: make money. There was no way that we knew how
Speaker 3: to build an audience or anything. And it was crazy.
Speaker 3: We were doing it in a garage at the beginning
Speaker 3: that was just a garage. It was filled with junk,
Speaker 3: and it slowly evolved into the show that became what
Speaker 3: you listened to twice a week. Sixteen years we've been
Speaker 3: doing this and we've decided that we had a great
Speaker 3: run and now basically it's time, folks, it's time WTF
Speaker 3: is coming to an end, and it's our decision. We'll
Speaker 3: have our final episode sometime in the fall.
Speaker 2: Now, I remember listening to the show. Podcasting has had
Speaker 2: kind of two waves. The second wave everybody puts around
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen with Cereal, But there was that earlier wave
Speaker 2: when we all first got phones and you would actually
Speaker 2: have to connect to your phone to iTunes and manually
Speaker 2: download a show. Before we left the house. He had
Speaker 2: something to listen to, and I was out running, and
Speaker 2: I remember Maren and Nerdiced were like two long form
Speaker 2: pods that you would grabs. You would just have stuff
Speaker 2: on your phone to listen to as your bran. Maren said,
Speaker 2: we're tired, we're burnt out, and we are utterly satisfied
Speaker 2: with the work we've done. We've done great work. Doesn't
Speaker 2: mean I'll never have, you know, talks like I do
Speaker 2: here or some kind of podcast at some point in time,
Speaker 2: but for now, we're just wrapping things up. It's good
Speaker 2: that he gets to go out on his own terms.
Speaker 2: Maren said, it's okay for things to end. We started
Speaker 2: the show on our terms. We grew it on our terms.
Speaker 2: We'll end it on our terms.
Speaker 3: It's the right decision for me, it's the right decision
Speaker 3: for Brendan. It's okay, it's okay for things to end.
Speaker 3: It's just time, folks. But again, we'll have a few
Speaker 3: more months, so don't get all bummed out. Let's just
Speaker 3: enjoy it. The world is on fire. I have the
Speaker 3: people I want to talk to. We'll find a little joy,
Speaker 3: We'll find a little connection, We'll find a little solid
Speaker 3: in each other's company.
Speaker 2: Also, notably, he never did video, and that's the big
Speaker 2: thing in the industry right now was, oh, you gotta
Speaker 2: have a video, and this has always been an audio podcast.
Speaker 2: Maren Show actually debuted a month after the Adam Carolla
Speaker 2: Show and three months ahead of Rogan, and then he
Speaker 2: got into the interview with John Mulaney, which was separately noteworthy.
Speaker 2: Now what rang my ears? Listen carefully to John Mulaney
Speaker 2: commenting here, Maren asks him will there be another season
Speaker 2: of Everybody's Live? And I had pointed out on this
Speaker 2: podcast a few weeks back Robbie Prau, who heads up
Speaker 2: Netflix Comedy, gave some sort of quote that made me go, huh,
Speaker 2: this isn't the slam dunk we were led to believe. Now,
Speaker 2: listen to m'laney here, I'm not sure this show's coming back.
Speaker 3: Listen Have they said we're doing more yet we Yes.
Speaker 4: There was a plan to do more and we're figuring
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, are you gonna U?
Speaker 4: I never know what to say to that.
Speaker 2: I also like this clip from John mulaney. He's almost
Speaker 2: defiant that if if something works, he's going to stop
Speaker 2: doing it. Fair enough, respect the mindset, but it's why
Speaker 2: the show doesn't work. But here's Mulini.
Speaker 4: Anytime you say they're figuring it out not a bad set,
Speaker 4: a side of me comes out, you know, like they've
Speaker 4: they've found their groove. No, we haven't. I'll do it blindfolded.
Speaker 3: And also when they say things like they're figuring out,
Speaker 3: it's just a diplomatic way of saying if not.
Speaker 4: Good, Oh, I think they just say it's not good
Speaker 4: when they don't like yeah, I think we're no longer
Speaker 4: living in the decent era of uh, well, they're figuring out.
Speaker 3: I think people want the best for you, John, Oh,
Speaker 3: that's it.
Speaker 2: Molini also talked about being offered the oscars he did
Speaker 2: confirm that it was offered to him. He said, I
Speaker 2: was very flattered. They came to me. Must have been
Speaker 2: last summer, and I knew Jimmy Kimmel wasn't going to
Speaker 2: do it, and they offered it, and it was honestly,
Speaker 2: they had a lot going on, and it's months and
Speaker 2: months of work. Both he and Maren praised Conan. Malini
Speaker 2: said he came out and was not only funny, but
Speaker 2: he elevated the show to the point I almost convinced
Speaker 2: myself that I'd seen these movies and I han't seen
Speaker 2: one of them. Mary makes some good points that Conan
Speaker 2: will sometimes self erase when he's floundering, and in the
Speaker 2: first few seconds of the Oscars, you could see Conan
Speaker 2: was almost heading towards a flounder and then found himself.
Speaker 2: So it's a really good listen Maren and Malaney. But
Speaker 2: I have plenty of more podcasts for you to listen to.
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan had on Jimmy Carr a very good three hours.
Speaker 2: I can listen to Jimmy Carr talk about comedy all
Speaker 2: day every day. Here he talks about Heckler's and.
Speaker 5: Then I'm trying, but then I'm trying to I've got
Speaker 5: a good fastball, and then I'm trying to work on
Speaker 5: the other bits. But that's kind of what I love
Speaker 5: about the industry because.
Speaker 4: It's it's everything.
Speaker 5: You go, yeah, I can get good at that, and
Speaker 5: then I can I can do you like twenty minutes
Speaker 5: of fastballs, and then do I've start About a year ago,
Speaker 5: I started putting. I started working with a videographer and
Speaker 5: putting stuff out of like Heckel videos and people talking
Speaker 5: to me, yeah, I'll and you go. It's just such
Speaker 5: a joyful thing because it's almost like doing the stuff
Speaker 5: when you go, just hit me whatever you want. I'll
Speaker 5: do anything. It's like seeing magician do real magic, because
Speaker 5: you kind of go, right, yeah, I've worked this muscle
Speaker 5: hot enough I can. I'll write jokes life for you now.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carr is also the guest on kil Tony. Haven't
Speaker 2: gotten to that one yet. The podcast The Town had
Speaker 2: on both Mulaney I'll maybe talk about that in a
Speaker 2: few days and had on Mike Burbiglia. The clip I
Speaker 2: pulled here Mike Burbiglia sounds to me like the Netflix
Speaker 2: money isn't what the Netflix money used to be. Here's
Speaker 2: for bigs.
Speaker 3: Are they still paying top dollar though? Are you? I mean,
Speaker 3: you don't have to give me numbers, but like they're
Speaker 3: still treating you well because I've heard some pullbacks.
Speaker 1: I think there have been. I don't look at other
Speaker 1: people's papers that much, but.
Speaker 4: I mean it's fine.
Speaker 2: I mean it's fine.
Speaker 1: I've never, honestly, I've never made a ton of money
Speaker 1: from comedy specials.
Speaker 4: A lot of it is just like marketing.
Speaker 1: Getting well, yeah, and it's getting like, look, I do
Speaker 1: a really specific thing, like I consider myself the luckiest
Speaker 1: person in the world to have found Netflix. I shouldn't
Speaker 1: even say this on record because it'll make my negotiation
Speaker 1: for the next cringe exactly, but it's it's like Netflix
Speaker 1: is the best thing that ever happened to me, because look.
Speaker 2: I was like, I Mike Berg would turn this off.
Speaker 1: I make shows that are combination of Broadway shows, theater, storytelling,
Speaker 1: and sinup comedy, like nobody before Netflix. Nobody was like,
Speaker 1: we got to get that on Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: And I just now before I started recording, walked the
Speaker 2: Dog for an hour and listen to Diary of a
Speaker 2: CEO with Guess Jimmy Fallon. I really enjoyed it. It
Speaker 2: was nice to hear Jimmy Fallon in real person mode.
Speaker 2: But boy, the way he tells the story he was
Speaker 2: obsessed and convinced he would be on SNL by age
Speaker 2: twenty five. It almost sounds like hogwash, but you listen
Speaker 2: to him say it over and over and he believes it.
Speaker 2: The host even asked him, well, what would happen if
Speaker 2: you didn't get SNL by twenty five, and Fallon like,
Speaker 2: can't even entertain that as a premise of like, what
Speaker 2: do you mean? Of course I was going to get
Speaker 2: it very interesting. There one thing that was a little fun.
Speaker 2: It got cleaned up at the end, But in the
Speaker 2: first half of the podcast, they were making it sound
Speaker 2: like by phrasing it this way that Fallon replaced Letterman,
Speaker 2: I mean kinda sorta, But that's like saying Jay Leno
Speaker 2: replaced Jack Parr, I mean kinda sorta. Later on, Fallon
Speaker 2: said that he replaced Conan, which is factually accurate. A
Speaker 2: note to everybody in the podcast industry, this is my
Speaker 2: number one pet peeve, but I'm specifically calling you out
Speaker 2: Diary of a CEO guy. So in the middle of
Speaker 2: the podcast, Jimmy Fallon is talking about dying, about what
Speaker 2: it will be like when he dies, and it abruptly
Speaker 2: cuts to a live read of the Diary of a CEO.
Speaker 2: Guy trying to sell us an iced coffee. It's a
Speaker 2: train wreck. People. You have to place these commercial breaks.
Speaker 2: It's very easy. I do it on this podcast every day.
Speaker 2: If you notice what I will do is I will
Speaker 2: leend a story in a down inflection and I leave
Speaker 2: a nice little hole there and that's where the commercial goes.
Speaker 2: It's very easy to do, and I don't know why
Speaker 2: people can't do. Whether there's so many train wrecks. The
Speaker 2: worst train wrecker of all is Tim Dillon mid sentence
Speaker 2: train wrecks. Joe Rogan is awful. Plus the reads come
Speaker 2: mid sentence. Spotify do better anyway. Diary of a CEO
Speaker 2: very very good. Listen with Jimmy Fallon. Fallon talks about
Speaker 2: the highs and lows of his career and auditioning when
Speaker 2: he was in his twenties. He says he wasn't the greatest,
Speaker 2: and I'm a pretty positive guy in general, but I
Speaker 2: think it was probably my lowest moment. I remember like
Speaker 2: trying to see what therapy was or if I could
Speaker 2: afford a therapist. I wrote a letter of my best friends,
Speaker 2: like I'm losing it, dude. I think was something on
Speaker 2: the point of like I'm losing it and I don't
Speaker 2: know if I can make it. Jimmy talked about his
Speaker 2: obsession with SNL. I became so obsessed in high school
Speaker 2: that I really couldn't hang out with anyone. I watched
Speaker 2: the show. People are like, can't you tape it? I
Speaker 2: can't tape, but I have to watch it live. I said,
Speaker 2: if I do nothing else in life, that's all I
Speaker 2: wanted to do. And like, even if that, if I
Speaker 2: could go for one season or one episode, then I
Speaker 2: could do whatever I want. Really really good conversation. I
Speaker 2: think Fallon is better than the interviewer Stephen Bortlett. And
Speaker 2: I'm not sure Steven is the greatest host, but he's
Speaker 2: got a pretty successful podcast there and I'm sitting here
Speaker 2: in the basement, so what do I know. But I
Speaker 2: think Fallon is really good there. Also, catching my ears
Speaker 2: is Jimmy does kind of what I do and swallows
Speaker 2: the syllables on the first word of SNL. I'll often
Speaker 2: say sat Night Live or Saturday Night Live or something
Speaker 2: like that unless I catch myself and over an unciate.
Speaker 2: Jimmy a few times says something like Saturnight Live if
Speaker 2: you pay attention across my ears continuing are very busy
Speaker 2: Wednesday and busy a block. Ricky Gervais last week on Friday,
Speaker 2: got his Hollywood Walk of Fame star. He said he
Speaker 2: was humbled and that his success was a mix of luck, persistence,
Speaker 2: and a little bit of pushing against the tide. Ricky said,
Speaker 2: I'd love to claim that it was due to my
Speaker 2: unrival genius, but truth be told, it's a cocktail of luck,
Speaker 2: persistence and a little bit of pushing against the tide.
Speaker 2: You know, you've got to polarize. I think you need
Speaker 2: to know if you're gonna do anything of any worth.
Speaker 2: As many people hate you as love you. But the
Speaker 2: ones that hate you shouldn't affect you. The ones that
Speaker 2: love you, they buy your house, so I'd like to
Speaker 2: thank them. And we've had a few weird years of
Speaker 2: cancel culture, of people telling you what you can or
Speaker 2: can't laugh at or talk about. But we push back
Speaker 2: and we won until the next time. My former co
Speaker 2: worker Jamie Fox was at the comedy store. He started
Speaker 2: talking about Diddy and called Diddy a nasty mff or.
Speaker 2: Jamie then got into some of the stuff that allegedly
Speaker 2: happened that I can't even make a clean version here.
Speaker 2: There's no way to clean up what allegedly happened, So
Speaker 2: I'll just move on interesting that Jamie's out doing stand
Speaker 2: up And if you'd like to follow a Didty trial,
Speaker 2: we do have a podcast for you. It is called
Speaker 2: Diddy Did He Do It? Wherever you get your shows?
Speaker 2: And now let me teach everybody how you do this.
Speaker 2: As I head for the commercial break, I will end
Speaker 2: on a down inflection. Late Night had some fun with
Speaker 2: the notion that Joe Biden had been replaced by a
Speaker 2: clone and or robot. Have you heard this story? John
Speaker 2: Stewart said, you're saying that the Joe Biden, who doesn't
Speaker 2: even know where he is, is actually an incredibly advanced
Speaker 2: cloned robot. How much Kenemine are you on? Jimmy Kimmel said,
Speaker 2: And by the way, whoever built that Joe Biden robot
Speaker 2: is very bad at building robots. I mean, if anybody
Speaker 2: was replaced by a robot, a clone, it's Melania, right,
Speaker 2: Gus Corner, Fortune Fiemester posted on Instagram about the call
Speaker 2: to end her marriage. She made it clear the split
Speaker 2: was amicable. In a joint note signed by both her
Speaker 2: and Jacqueline, they said they're parting ways with love, looking
Speaker 2: back fondly, and wishing each other nothing but the best
Speaker 2: moving forward. Andrew de Simuks got married. According to a
Speaker 2: Late Nighter, Andrew has married fellow comedian Ellie Dixon this
Speaker 2: past weekend. Married somewhere in the Santa Monica Mountains. Dixon
Speaker 2: captioned a photo saying, no offense, we just got married.
Speaker 2: Horrible story. King of the Hill voice actor Jonathan Joss murdered.
Speaker 2: The voice actor was shot and killed on Sunday. According
Speaker 2: to police, authorities were dispatched to a shooting in progress
Speaker 2: around seven. They found Jos lying near the roadway. They
Speaker 2: tried life saving measures while waiting for ems. Joss was
Speaker 2: pronounced dead at the scene. Officers quickly detained a suspect
Speaker 2: who had fled the scene in a vehicle. That person
Speaker 2: has now been booked for murder. The investigation still ongoing.
Speaker 2: Joss was best known for his voice role as John
Speaker 2: Redcorn and King of a Hill. Joss was set to
Speaker 2: return the newly announced revival of King of a Hill
Speaker 2: cent premiere in August, had already begun recording. Just hours
Speaker 2: before his death, he had posted on Instagram talking about
Speaker 2: how the reboot is up and moving. Jonathan Joss was
Speaker 2: fifty nine. Nick Offerman jumped on social media, hitting back
Speaker 2: at a social media user who had used a doctored
Speaker 2: clip from Parks and rec to spread a homophobic message.
Speaker 2: A man had shared a clip depicting nick Offerman's Parks
Speaker 2: character Ron Swanson throwing a rainbow flag into a dumpster.
Speaker 2: This happened on Sunday, the first day of Pride Month.
Speaker 2: The person captioned it just wanted to post how I
Speaker 2: feel about Pride Month. Offerman himself commented and said Ron
Speaker 2: was the best man at a gay wedding. You dumb
Speaker 2: f hashtag happy Pride. Seth Meyers gave the commencement speech
Speaker 2: to choate Rosemary Hall's class of twenty twenty five in Wallingford, Connecticut.
Speaker 2: That sounds up, but he doesn't it. Yes, it is
Speaker 2: a private Connecticut boarding school with Seth Myers sounds very
Speaker 2: very uppity. He joked that the smartly just teenagers holding
Speaker 2: roses plus the bagpipes made him feel like he was
Speaker 2: on his way to a human sacrifice. Seth said, I
Speaker 2: went to a public school. We used fewer fancy words.
Speaker 2: For example, we didn't have a head of school. We
Speaker 2: had a principle he asked us to call him head
Speaker 2: of school if someone would have thrown a battery at him.
Speaker 2: Not only did my school not of trustees, there was
Speaker 2: barely anyone you could trust. Seth continued. Nothing that is
Speaker 2: wrong in the world today is the fault of people
Speaker 2: under twenty. And yet you hear adults all the time
Speaker 2: saying we're doomed because they're getting their news from TikTok.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should get your news from TikTok.
Speaker 2: You should get it from late night talk shows. And
Speaker 2: today it is the Women of Comedy Emmy Showcase. Eliza
Speaker 2: Slussinger soshirs Amada will join host Whitney Cummings for the
Speaker 2: Emmy season celebration. Whitney will moderate candid panel conversations with
Speaker 2: the featured performers. They'll talk about the comedian's creative journeys, influences,
Speaker 2: and the evolving landscape for women in the comedy industry.
Speaker 2: Writing rule of three, fancy schmancy, It's a Decrescent Theater
Speaker 2: in Beverly Hills. Invite only, excuse me, welcome reception at
Speaker 2: four two panels. The event is presented in partnership with
Speaker 2: Comedy Gives back the safety Net for the comedy community,
Speaker 2: offering financial crisis relief, mental health and substance abuse treatment sponsorship.
Speaker 2: So I hope the people that are paying for those
Speaker 2: invite only tickets are donating a heck of a lot
Speaker 2: of money.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: Also today Loons on the Lake. The Loons on the
Speaker 2: Lake Comedy Festival in Minneapolis blends new and upcoming talent
Speaker 2: with experienced top name comedians. Starts to Toay goes through the
Speaker 2: seventh headliners Jamie Kennedy, Emo Phillips, some others who you
Speaker 2: probably aren't that familiar with unless you're very much into comedy.
Speaker 2: There is also a comedy competition with ten thousand dollars
Speaker 2: up for grabs forty comedians. You get to do an
Speaker 2: eight minute set top ten events in the next round,
Speaker 2: then the top five compete for the five thousand dollars
Speaker 2: grand prize. I wonder what happens to the other five?
Speaker 2: Where's that going? That's your comedy needs for today? All right,
Speaker 2: I'll see tomorrow,