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Speaker 1: Good day listeners. This is Martin from Tasmania, Australia and

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you are listening to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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Welcome back everybody to these Surely you Can't Be Serious

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Podcast For those about to rock, we salute you. We

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are here to take on the second part of the

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Appetite for Destruction versus Back in Black episode. Jason, how

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are you doing? It's been along. I'm glad to be back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm let loose from the noose. Thanks kept me

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hanging about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just understruck, so let's start rocking the free world.

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely You Can't Be

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Serious Podcast, discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten

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of eighties and nineties pop culture.

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Speaker 1: With your co hosts James D. Graves and Jason Colovin,

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we are here today to talk about the ACDC album

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Back in Black. Last week we talked about Appetite for

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Destruction by Guns N' Roses, and once we're done with

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going through today's episode, we will give you our final

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judgment as to which album we think is the best. Jason,

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do you know what you're gonna pick? Yet? I do

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know what I'm gonna pick. I do know what I'm

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gonna pick.

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Speaker 2: This was a really fun episode to put together because,

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I mean, you and I went back and forth. We

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had to find two worthy opponents.

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Speaker 1: Right, we've got Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson face to face.

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Here we go. That's right, that's who's gonna bite somebody's

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ear off. Let's do it, man, Let's yeah, all right,

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we're gonna jump right in. So we're talking today about

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ac DC, who has a unique history. They started off

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and got famous with a singer that was not the

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singer for Back in Black.

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Speaker 2: They went through a couple of singers before they got

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to the singer Back in Black. When they started out,

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initially they had this guy named Dave Evans. Yeah, Dave

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and Mark Stone and the guy for the police need

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to form this band.

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Speaker 1: Called Missus, you know. Yeah, yeah, So Dave Evans was

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the guy. They had had a guy or two before that.

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But I'll rewind just a little bit. You know, we

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gave you the story of the Van Halen Boys history

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and with this band, there's no question that Malcolm and

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Angus Young are the backbone of the band. They're the

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founders of the band. They're the consistent and so some

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interesting things about them. You know, this is regarded as

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an Australian band, but most of the members, the core

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members anyway, were transplants. They were immigrants from Scotland. Bond Scott,

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who ultimately became the lead singer, came over in the fifties,

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and Angus and Malcolm came over with their family. In

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nineteen sixty three. Scotland had had what was called the

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Big Freeze, which was like the worst winter on record,

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and so everybody was kind of miserable eight feet of snow,

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and their dad sees a advert on the telly, as

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they say, and it's given, you know, financial health for

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somebody who wants to travel down to Australia. And so

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he and eleven other family members travel down there. And

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it's down there that their older brother, George starts a

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band that within just like six months or so has

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a reasonably popular success. The boys see his fame and

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they're like, hey, I think we could do that.

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Speaker 2: Their brother George was a member of the band called

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the Easy Beats, who had a hit song in America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were inspired.

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Speaker 2: They're like, hey, our brother put together a couple of

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guys made some music, and all of a sudden, he's famous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they came over there and they were

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they're poor, they're staying in a hostel. You know that.

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It was a meager means that they existed by. And

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then six months later they've got cameramen on their front

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doorstep wanting to take pictures of the new rock star,

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their famous brother. That's right right.

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Speaker 2: They grew up, though, in a musical family where they

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would sit around the piano and they would play songs,

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and for them, this was normal behavior. They just assumed

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every family did these.

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Speaker 1: Things right, just kind of like reading. For them, everybody

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just learned how to play something. Yeah. Angus's first instrument

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so that he could play it like a guitar. And

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he and Malcolm formed a couple of high school groups,

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separate groups, and eventually they decided, you know what, these

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groups aren't working out, but we do something together. And

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then George, the older brother, got home and they said, hey,

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we've started a band together, and he goes, I'll give

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that one two weeks.

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Speaker 2: These were two brothers separated by two years and they

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constantly fought.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting to hear that two weeks for

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guys who ended up staying together from nineteen seventy four

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until Malcolm had to leave the band due to health issues. Yeah, yeah,

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forty years. It's a great.

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Speaker 2: Run for them, great run for them. I think it's

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interesting where they got their name from their band name. Yeah,

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Margaret had a sewing machine and she just made the

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comment something about her sewing machine, and on the back

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of it has this little label that said ACDC. Yeah,

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basically heard that and he's like, that's that's pretty good,

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you know, And that to them meant power and energy.

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Speaker 1: And they thought, well, that's a pretty good name. Yeah,

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we're electric. Not much longer, they're riding in a taxi

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cab and they tell the cabby their name and he's like,

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are you guys gay? Like what speaking of their name?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it really did just come from the back

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of a sewing machine. Everybody has tried to put different

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meanings for it. Yeah, I had heard all the rumors

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about how anti Christ, Devil's Children or after Christ's Devil

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comes all this sort of. They just thought it was

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pretty cool, little electrical term.

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Speaker 1: You know. There's this thing that happened when we were

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kids where this guy in California was murdering people as

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the Nightstalker. As it happened, you know, the sheriff's office

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found a hat that he had left behind at one

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of the murder scenes, and it happened to be an

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ACDC hat. The you know, the sheriff's office was like,

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we use that information to try to get people to go, hey,

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maybe I know who that is. You know, it's an

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identifying But the press took it and went an entirely

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different direction and tried to make them into this demonic

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band and yeah, anti christ thing. It kind of dumb.

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Speaker 2: If you liked ac DC's music, you were suspected of

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being a serial killer, right yeah, But I mean, to

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be fair, they they did have a lot of stuff

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that would have caused I mean, if I was a

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parent back in the eighties have been like, wait a minute,

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there's a guy with the devil Horns and Deviltale on

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this album and the songs the songs called what Highway

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to Hell? Okay now right exactly?

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Speaker 1: I think they like to do things that were controversial

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and stir up excitement about themselves. I don't a new

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idea knowledge, No, and it's not a satanic band, right right.

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So the boys have their band, they go through a

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couple of singers, end up with Dave Evans for a

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little while, who's very much a glam rocker. He's putting

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on the makeup, he's got the spandex going on on,

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and the guys are like, uh, this is not working out.

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I don't like this.

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Speaker 2: They didn't like the glam thing at all, but they

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did have a moderate hit with with him. Was called

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can I Sit next to You Girl?

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Speaker 1: Yep, sounds like a Beach Boys too, but it was. Yeah.

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So they decide we're tired to Dave. We want somebody

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else who can rock a little bit while they have

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been going through this experience. Bon Scott, whose name is

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given name is Ronald, but they called him Bond, which

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was short for Bonnie Scotland because he was from Scotland.

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of it. He was kind of like Axel, you know.

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maybe punched a cop in the face here and there,

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you know, like you do, right, And he had been

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involved with a couple of bands, one of which was

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named Fraternity.

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Speaker 2: He was in Fraternity, the Valentines and the Valentines.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he had been in those bands, but had kind of,

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you know, reached the end, hadn't been much of a success,

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had played with some guys and done some tours, but

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really was just kind of at a low point. And

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one night in nineteen seventy four, gets in kind of

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a yelling match with someone in the middle of the

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night in one of the bands and drinks. I mean

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he'd been drinking all day, which he did for most

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of his adult life, and jumped on a motorcycle and

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had a wreck that almost killed him. That's right, that's right,

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very near to death. At that same time, as he

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was recovering in the hospital, the boys are looking for

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a new lead singer for the band and somebody says, hey,

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you know what about having Bond Scott, And they're like,

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guy who drives with the van, right right, when you

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do these things that you find that there's never a

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completely consistent history on exactly what happened. But basically Bond

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roady for the band, played drums with him here and there,

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and initially the idea was suggested to him somebody, and

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and I'm pretty sure that motorcycle accident has messed him

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up permanently. I don't think he's a good fit. And

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then Bond goes to see ACDC playing and he watches

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him and he's like, he wanted to join the band

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right away, but he was like, man, they're really young.

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I don't know if they're mature enough to handle me.

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But once they got together, they were immediately brothers. You know.

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Speaker 2: Angus at that moment when Bond wanted to join the band,

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Angus was only nineteen, Malcolm was twenty one, and bon

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Scott was twenty nine. So he's an older guy. He's

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been around the block a few.

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Speaker 1: Times, yeah, and a few times.

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Speaker 2: And he went to him and he's like, hey, give

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I can.

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Speaker 2: I'm a better singer than the guy that's been traveling

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Speaker 1: You know, give me a shot. I can do this. Yeah,

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and then he stepped in. Man, it took off. It

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was magic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, we're going to take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after.

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Speaker 2: This business.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, kind of the rest is history for

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a time. There. They put their first record out in

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Speaker 2: That album is called High Voltage, and actually that's the

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first international release. I think they had a couple of

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albums that were Australia only and they kind of combined

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those two to make an all star one called.

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Speaker 1: High Voltage, which was released.

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Speaker 2: Most people are familiar with that one in nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting, you know, you look at the

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album covers, the center of attention is Angus, right, you know. Typically,

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I mean even with Van Halen, David Lee Roth was

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in the front. I mean, Eddie was there, but it

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was you didn't have only the guitar player on the front.

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But Angus had done a heck of a job kind

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of developing this persona with a schoolboy outfit. This was

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the This is the other way. His sister was involved, right,

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that's it, That's right.

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Speaker 2: So his sister, Margaret, who came up with the name ACDC,

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also commented that Aegis still looked like a schoolboy, right,

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and he thought, well, heck, if I look like a schoolboy,

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I might as well still wear the schoolboy outfit.

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Speaker 1: He had been trying to find a stick. He had

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tried Superman parody called Super aang and he had tried

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a spy and a Zoro outfit. But when he's a

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small man small He was young at the time anyway,

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and so the schoolboy outfit worked. It was kind of this, Hey,

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is there a little kid up there shredding the guitar

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right now? I saw this.

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Speaker 2: This is really interesting. Angus is five foot two, yeah,

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Malcolm is five foot three, yeah. Brian Johnson's only five

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the power that these guys put out. These guys

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are pint sized rockers, but they are awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They to kind of promote the schoolboy image, they

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told everybody that Angus was actually five years younger than

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he really was.

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Speaker 2: When you think about what I was doing at nineteen,

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I mean, he's touring the world doing all this crazy stuff,

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playing crazy guitar.

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Speaker 1: He's a rock star. All these guys were high school

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dropouts who became world touring, world changing rock stars.

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Speaker 2: Malcolm and Angus dropped out of high school exactly at

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fourteen years nine months, which is legally, the minimum you

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can go to school nine months.

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here. My school birthday is tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: That is math assigmon that you jumps are doing tonight, I.

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Speaker 1: Ain't doing it. So they became a pretty big hit

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in Australia and then with the release of High Voltage

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they started to get some international success. It took them

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a little while to become a success in America, though

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it did they I heard.

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Speaker 2: One of the ways they did it was they would

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play anywhere, anytime, all the time. Ten people, five people,

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three hundred people, didn't matter. Their play and play and

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play and play and play. And that's something that the

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Beatles actually did in Hamburg. They would just play so

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much they got good at their craft, right and people.

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Speaker 1: They made a name for themselves. Yeah. You, You and

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I have both read the book Outliers that talks about

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how the Beatles would play in that strip club in Hamburg,

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and it would they wouldn't have a half hour set,

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they wouldn't have an hour set. They would have an

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eight hour set in a strip club. So the people

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aren't really looking at them, so they were like, Okay,

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we've got to find some music that's interesting for people.

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To listen to because we're not the focus of the

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show here. And they got so much practice just as

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kids that by the time they hit America in nineteen

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sixty four, there were already experts in their craft.

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Speaker 2: So after High Voltage, they moved to London in nineteen

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seventy six in an effort to become international rock stars.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know, to hear these guys talk because

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they don't sound Scottish, but they also don't exactly sound

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Australian either. That's funny because Brian Johnson at this time

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is playing in a band called Jordi, which refers to

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a group of folks who have a very unique style

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of speaking from the UK. If you've seen Britain's Got Talent.

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The two guys who are you know, off to the side,

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who like introduce people and stuff, those guys are both

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Jordy guys and it's that kind of the accent is

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intriguing to me.

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Speaker 2: You know, just kind of on that note, I read that,

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So these guys are short, they kind of look like

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truck drivers, they kind of talk funny. They had trouble

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getting into their own gigs sometimes because people didn't believe

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they were the rock stars that they are. They looked

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like just these average guys off the streets, the little

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scruffy you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they did. Bond was missing a few teeth

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as an older guy. I mean, he looks too old.

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They look too young. It's all very I mean, this

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guy's got tattoos and chest hair and this is supposed

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to be a lead singer for a rock band. I

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don't understand what's going on here.

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Speaker 2: So after High Voltage, also in nineteen seventy six, they

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release Dirty Deeds Done.

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Speaker 1: Dirt Cheap, the Dune Dirt Cheap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't stop there. In nineteen seventy seven

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they release another album, Let There Be.

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Speaker 1: Rock, And the music was good and the music was loud.

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Speaker 2: Then in nineteen seventy eight, notice they're not taking any

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time off at all, they release Poweradge.

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Speaker 1: Album Tour, Album Tour. It's just like the Van Halen episodes.

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Speaker 2: We talked about flashback if you haven't heard episode one

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of Van Halen. Then again, in nineteen seventy nine, they

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released an album called If you Want Blood You've Got

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It That was.

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Speaker 1: A live album. All of those albums were produced by

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their brother George I guess he was the seasoned expert

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at the time that they started the band. But you

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know he's helping him out through this process, and he's

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the older, wiser guy who can put these albums together

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and make them sound good. Well.

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Speaker 2: Then in nineteen seventy nine, we have an album called

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Highway to Hell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this one was not produced by their brother Georgie.

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This one was produced by Langa Lega. We love him.

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Speaker 2: He produced Pyromania, He produced Hysteria. He produced some albums

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by Celine Dion and Schneia Twain. He also did Heartbeat

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City by the Cars back in Michael Bolton. Michael Bolton,

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this guy knows how to make hits.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah, he does, and he was

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Highway to Hell was one of the earlier ones that

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he had done, and he had not quite gotten to

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the stage that he was at by the time Pyromania

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came under his control. But he was definitely a guy

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who knew what he was doing and was still meticulous

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and was still making hit albums. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They would talk about how they get started about ten

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in the morning and then they would come in and

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record and he would stay until three o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Just be a studio rat. Yeah, then just as things

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are taking off, they're on their meteoric rise. February nineteenth,

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to be exact, nineteen eighty bon Scott goes out drinking

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with his friends. And Bon Scott was always the guy

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who wanted to keep partying, who wanted to drink a

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little bit more, stay up a little bit longer. And

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he and the boys had gotten together just a few

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days before and they had said, here are some of

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the songs that you know, here's the music, some of

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the songs that were working on for our next album.

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He even played drums. There's a couple of demopes out

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there that have him on the drums on those songs.

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But he walks out the door and they say, just

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a couple more weeks, man, and we will have these

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songs ready for you to put lyrics to. And that

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was the last time when they saw him. He went

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out drinking with a friend of his and you know,

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like I said, he wasn't a stranger to drinking. They

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had a good time, got home late that night or

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early the next morning, and he was sleeping it off,

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as they say, except that when the friend came out

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the next day, he found him lifeless in the car.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get too graphic,

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but the story that I read up on was he

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passed out in a passenger seat. His friend leaned the

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chair back and put a blanket on him. Couldn't rouse him,

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couldn't bring him inside, so just let him sleep in

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the car, and overnight he aspirated some of his vomits

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and passed away that way. The death certificate says a

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cute alcohol poisoning death by misadventure.

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Speaker 1: And there are all kinds of conspiracy theories out there

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that we don't need to get into. We sure don't

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have the expertise to talk about that sort of thing.

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But the point is they're shooting up like a rocket

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and then suddenly the pilot's gone.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. I do think it's interesting. Bond had

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several lyrical ideas for the album, the unnamed album that

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was coming that those ideas were abandoned in favor of

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Brian's lyrics, but ACDC manager Ian Jeffrey claims to still

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have a folder that contains lyrics for up to fifteen

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songs that was going to be Back in Black.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the boys are notified of Bond's death, they have to.

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I mean, his mom's still down in Australia and they're

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up in the UK and they have to give her

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a call and let her know what's happened. And they

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go to the funeral. They are trying to figure out

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does the band continue on? What do we need to do?

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And it's actually Bond's father that says, Bond would want

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you to go on. I want you to continue with

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ACDC and make it something great. And so they decided

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not to mope about. They decided to start playing and

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pick things back up where they had left them off.

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And then they start their search for not a replacement

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singer because you can't replace Bond Scott, but a new

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singer to be their front man. Okay, everybody, we're going

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to take a quick break. Please stay with us. We

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will be right back after these messages. So we know

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what happens. We know that Brian Johnson becomes the new

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lead singer. But do you know who the first person

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to recommend Brian Johnson to the band was? No, who

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was it? It was Bon Scott? Wow? So yeah, so

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we mentioned earlier that Bon Scott was in a few

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bands before he joined ACDC and one of those bands

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was a band called Fraternity. Well, Fraternity used to do

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supporting gigs for this band called Jordy, which I mentioned

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just a bit ago, that had Brian Johnson as their

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lead singer, and they had had a little bit of

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success as well. But Bond Scott had seen them perform,

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and after seeing them perform, he came and told the

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young brother He's like, oh, man, I wish you could

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have seen this guy. He was amazing. He was like

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little Richard, and Little Richard was Bond's favorite performer. He

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was like, he did this whole thing where he fell

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on the floor and was spinning around like he was

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in agonizing pain. It was amazing and he like sealed

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the deal. Like they came and like took him out

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in a wheelchair. It was it was and I'm just

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you know, I'm kind of imagining I'm kind of imagining

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James Brown, you know, where they try to walk him

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off the stage and he goes back on. But as

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it turns out, Brian Johnson was actually he had appendicitis.

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He was actually rolling around the ground on pain, and

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they really did take him off to the hospital after

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it was over. But after Bond's passing. They had a

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fan that sent him a tape of Jordi and said,

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you guys should really look at this guy. And they're like, Hey,

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isn't this the guy that Bond talked about? And then

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Mutt Lang, without knowing any of this, says, I think

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you guys should listen to Brian Johnson, and I think

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he's I think he'd be a really good fit for

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the band. And so by the time they started doing

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auditions with folks, he kind of was already the pick

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in their head.

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Speaker 2: That fan from Cleveland that mailed the album to the

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record company and said, you guys need to listen to

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this guy. If you're listening to this podcast, we want

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to hear from you. Yes, we don't know your name,

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but please hook us up on Facebook say I'm the

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guy contacted the record company on behalf of Brian Johnson.

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Speaker 1: So, Brian Johnson, I mean we talked about we talked

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in our episode about Journey, and you know, Steve Perry

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was working on a Turkey ranch when he got the

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call and said, hey, we want you to come see

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for Journey. But Journey was nobody at that point, you know,

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they were the leftovers from Santana. The guy who took

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over for Steve Perry was working at the Gap. He

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was working at the Gap when he got the phone

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call that said, hey, we'd like you to come be

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the lead singer for Journey. Well i've kind of got

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like a insurance now and dude, Journey Journey. Oh okay, yeah, okay,

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I'll come out. So when Brian Johnson gets the call,

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they don't tell him who the band is, and he's

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like and he's like, okay, well you want me to

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come down there, and you know, it's it's a bit

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of money. Can you at least give me the initials?

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And the lady who's talking to him on the phone goes, yes,

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the initials are A C, D C. He's still hesitant,

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you know, He's like, ah, man, I just don't even

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know that this is worth it, because he had kind

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of reached the end like so many you know somebody

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guys that we've talked about. He's just kind of given

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up on the music industry and had started a little

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car repair place. You know, He's like, I don't know,

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you know, just fix and windshields, right, oh, think about it?

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Gots why walls and so as we mentioned in our

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Spaceball's episode. He happens to get another call near the

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same time that says, hey, we got a paying gig

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for you. Oh all right, how much does it pay?

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Three hundred and fifty pounds? Oh solid? What's it for

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Hoover Vacuum. So Brian Johnson thinks, okay, well, I'm getting

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paid enough money that it makes it worth the trip

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down there. I guess I'll go ahead and audition for

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ac DC while I make my vacuum commercial. I love

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the Human Vacuum Clinic commercial. It is amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's no vacu in black, but I mean, you know,

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it's good.

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Speaker 1: Though, It's really good. It's a beautiful move. And then

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he's got to go over and sing for ac DC,

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and these guys are our world famous at this point,

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and he's petrified. He talks about sitting in a cafe

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across the street, too scared to go over, having a

473
00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:22,079
bit of tea and a and a biscuit or something,

474
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,119
and the pastry's so crusty that he can't even eat it.

475
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,279
And he's like, ah, f it, I guess I better

476
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,960
go do this and just walks across the street. Well, meanwhile,

477
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,359
Malcolm and Angus and the boys have been auditioning all

478
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,720
these other lead singers and they are like, hey, where's Brian.

479
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:43,880
He was supposed to be here like an hour ago.

480
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,559
And somebody goes, oh, I think he's downstairs playing pool

481
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:51,000
with the roadies, and they're like, wow, okay, well at

482
00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:54,000
least he plays pool, and so they call him up

483
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,680
and the first thing Malcolm does is hand him a

484
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,920
beer and says, I'm sure you're thirsty, and he's like,

485
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:02,960
I bet I could dream this thing right now, you

486
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,880
know what, I think I will, and he drains the

487
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,640
beer and they say, well, what do you what would

488
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,039
you like to perform? And he says it.

489
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: Was my Iicontina Turner is called Nutbush City Limits.

490
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: And so they hear him say that and they're like, oh,

491
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:22,480
thank god. Every other person that's been in there singing

492
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:27,640
says smoke on the water. Yeah, okay, that's good, and

493
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,720
so they do that and it goes pretty well, and

494
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,000
so they say, well, what else have you got? And

495
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,400
he he had put his band back together at that point,

496
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,240
but they were just doing small club shows, but they

497
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,480
always as their closing song would play a whole lot

498
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,240
of Rosie and so he says, I can do a

499
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,839
whole lot of rosie. I'm like right on, and so

500
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,599
they play it. He sings it and they know immediately, sorry,

501
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,839
this is our man. So they say him back home,

502
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,960
and a little while later they're like, hey, can you

503
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:08,599
come down for a second audition and he again he's like, guys,

504
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,079
you know this is it's kind of expensive for me

505
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,799
to come down there. And they find a way to

506
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:16,640
get him down there. He sings with him again. That night,

507
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,839
he stays at a hotel with one of the roadies,

508
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,400
and the roadies roady guy is like, I think you

509
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,599
got this man, and he's like now he has no help.

510
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,119
He has given up hope on this thing. He goes

511
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,920
back home. He continues working on cars, He continues playing

512
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,720
small gigs and says, oh hey to his band at

513
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,680
the times, says, oh, by the way, guys, I went

514
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,799
and had a sing with ac DC And they're like what,

515
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:42,799
I had a sing with ac DC And they're like,

516
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:45,960
oh cool. And then they go play and that was

517
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,960
all the conversation that they had, you know. And then

518
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:53,519
he gets a call on his dad's birthday. He was

519
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,880
still he had gone back to living with his parents

520
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,359
came to the house, had bought his dad a bottle

521
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,000
of whiskey for his birthday, but comes in and nobody's there,

522
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:07,519
and the phone rings and it's Malcolm Young and he says, so,

523
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:09,400
we're going to be leaving in a couple of days

524
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,960
to go record this new album. Do you think you

525
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,680
can make it? And he's like, are you serious? Get it?

526
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,400
They get it? What do you mean? And he's like yeah,

527
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,599
so we yeah, we're just thinking, you know, we got

528
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,799
to leave pretty quick. So are you in? And he says,

529
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,480
can you call me back in ten minutes. I just

530
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,720
want to make sure that people that's nobody, that somebody's

531
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,440
not screwing with me right now, you know that. Malcolm's

532
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,400
like okay, hangs up the phone, calls him exactly ten

533
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:46,160
minutes later and says okay, so can you go And

534
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:52,480
he's like, yeah, yeah, okay. He's not using that language.

535
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,599
He's using better language than that. He puts the phone

536
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,039
down for a second, says the F word, gets back

537
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,160
on and says, yep, I'll find a way to do it.

538
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,400
And then he hangs up the phone and he's like,

539
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,079
I'm the only one here. So he pops the top

540
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,559
on the bodily he bought for his dad because he figures,

541
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,359
I need a drink, and he chugs himself a celebratory

542
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,680
drink by himself, and in one week he is in

543
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,640
the Bahamas with Mutt Lang and ACDC recording what would

544
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,039
become one of the greatest albums of all history.

545
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: It's incredible. These stories are amazing. This is why nobody

546
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,200
should ever give up on their dream. Steve Berry was

547
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,559
working at a Turkey ranch, Brian Johnson was fixing windshields.

548
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,039
One week later, he's in the Bahamas recording back in Black.

549
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,519
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, we're going to take a quick break. Please

550
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,400
stay with us. We will be right back after these messages,

551
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:47,680
all right.

552
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,079
Speaker 2: That is how the band came to be. Are we

553
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,680
ready to dive in track by track on this one?

554
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? And just real quick, just you know, briefly touch

555
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:59,680
on the recording process. You know, it sounds really nice

556
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000
to be recording in the Bahamas. You know, we kind

557
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,160
of talked about the police and their beautiful island that

558
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,799
they were on as they were recording. It was not

559
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,480
exactly that for the ACDC boys. It was a kind

560
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:14,000
of a cement and mortar type of place. The only

561
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:16,920
reason that they went to the Bahamas is because there

562
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,880
were no recording studios available in the UK, and also

563
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,640
it worked as a tax advantage to record down there

564
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,640
instead of recording in the UK. This recording studio that

565
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,519
they had was run by this old Bahama lady who,

566
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,000
in addition to giving them a room with a table

567
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,640
and a lamp on the table, gave them a stick

568
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,640
it's like a harp like a fish harpoon stick to

569
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,559
put by the door. And she said, you got to

570
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:45,160
be careful. Sometimes at night these wild Haitians have come

571
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,240
down and try to rob you, Like, Okay, this is

572
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,200
not the Bahama, this is not the Bahama vacation I

573
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,960
was expecting. But again, you know, you put all these

574
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,240
circumstances together and somehow you come out out with back

575
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:02,799
in black amazing.

576
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,119
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586
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Speaker 2: All Right, so Back in Black has released July twenty fifth,

587
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,000
nineteen eighty. Let's talk briefly about the cover.

588
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:41,799
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah.

589
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,319
Speaker 2: First of all, the title back in Black was a

590
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000
phrase that Malcolm Young had in his head for a while,

591
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,240
but he knew in his brain this is what I

592
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,079
want the album to be called back in Black yep,

593
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:57,039
as a tribute to Bond Scott. The cover of the

594
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:01,640
album is all black, just some basic white outlined letters

595
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,759
saying ACDC, back and black.

596
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. The boys had wanted it to be just straight black,

597
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:10,119
and the record company was like, not okay with that,

598
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:14,000
but if you'll just put your name in white lettering,

599
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:17,480
that's fine. Yep. Okay, So are we ready to do this?

600
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,799
Let's do Let's jump in. I'm excited about this first song.

601
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,519
I listen. I listened to this album again today, cranked

602
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:28,039
it up, pumped my fist as I drove home. So

603
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:32,519
the first song on the album is Hell's Bells. Okay,

604
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:37,599
so we've talked before about how Mutt Lang puts these

605
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,960
albums together brick by brick, And this first song is

606
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:46,680
such an awesome layering of sounds because you start off

607
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,240
with that bell, you know, and there's a story behind

608
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,079
the bell. I'll get tune a minute. You got that bell,

609
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,839
and it's it's all you hear. It's like you're are

610
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160
you coming to church? What's going on here? And then

611
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,599
on your right speaker it lays down that first guitar,

612
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,680
Layer one belt, Layer two guitar, Malcolm's guitar is over there,

613
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,160
and then layer three you get just little snippets of

614
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,480
Angus's guitar coming in, you know, just little bits that's

615
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,319
over here on the left speaker that in this incredible

616
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,200
job of using the stereo to its full advantage. And

617
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,799
then the drums come in layer four and you're like yeah, yeah,

618
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:27,960
and then it all comes together. Face comes in, which

619
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
is I mean, the bass on almost all of their

620
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:33,160
songs is just that straightforward boom boom boom boom boom

621
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,880
boom boom boom.

622
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 6: And it is amazing.

623
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: What a great start for the album.

624
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,599
Speaker 2: And like you said, it's layer intensifies builds.

625
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,519
Speaker 1: To this great rocking song. Yeah, and so there are

626
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:15,640
literally thousands of ac DC fans that, I mean, within

627
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:18,319
a matter of just a few months have learned the

628
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,400
lead singer to their band has just died, and six

629
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,079
weeks later learned they've already got a new guy. And

630
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:26,720
I mean, it's just I could. I mean, this is

631
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,759
akin this to like, you know, your your parents get

632
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,039
divorced and then one of them has a girlfriend or

633
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,200
boyfriend in a month and a half. You're just like, oh,

634
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,000
what's what's going on? This isn't right. And so the

635
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,160
question is, you know, like what how are the fans

636
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,079
going to react to this new guy? And are they

637
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,880
I mean, if this album is dedicated to Bond Scott,

638
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
is it going to be some sort of you know,

639
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,599
sappy sentimental tribute. But they don't do that at all.

640
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,319
They give, they give, they give that ominous tone and

641
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,400
even the guitar has kind of an ominous feel to it.

642
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,359
But it's the song is Hell's Bells, which is kind

643
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,719
of a nod to for whom the bell tolls? You know,

644
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,280
the It's come up several times, but the saying is

645
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,920
ask not for whom the bell tolls, It tolls for

646
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,840
thee and the idea is, don't worry about the dead,

647
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:24,679
worry about yourself, worry about your life. And that's exactly

648
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,800
what they do with this album. They say or Bond

649
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,199
would not have wanted us to play some sappy ballad.

650
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,880
He wouldn't have wanted some song you know about him.

651
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,480
He would have wanted us to kick ass, and that's

652
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:38,119
what we're gonna do.

653
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: A few episodes ago, we talked about Jonathan Kane when

654
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,000
he wrote Faithfully by a Journey, he had kind of

655
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,199
a supernatural experience where that song, he says, God gave

656
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,480
it to him and just sort of supernaturally came through him,

657
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,119
out of his hands. He just wrote it down on a

658
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,760
piece of paper, just float out of him. Something similar

659
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,800
happened to Brian Johnson on Hell's Bells. It's supernatural. He's

660
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,000
a believer, but something weird happened to him, and he

661
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,199
talks about it. He said, I don't believe in God

662
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,039
or heaven or hell, but something weird happened.

663
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:10,079
Speaker 1: He was in his room.

664
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:12,599
Speaker 2: He said, I'll never forget. I just started to write

665
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:15,920
and never stopped, and it just flowed out of my hands.

666
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:18,239
I thought that was a really interesting story. Did you

667
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,000
know that there's an ac DC all female tribute band

668
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,039
called the Hell's Bells.

669
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: B E.

670
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: L Ees No, but I did know that there's a

671
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:38,360
bluegrass band tribute to ACDC called he C Dixie. You're

672
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,480
only you.

673
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: That's good.

674
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: That's good. So he came up with the lyrics to

675
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,760
this one midway through the recording of the album. He

676
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,760
did a majority of, if not all, of the lyrics

677
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,239
in this album, which is kind of a big deal.

678
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,639
I mean, they auditioned him to sing, but they didn't,

679
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,199
you know, they just were like, hey, can you write

680
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,679
the lyrics? And I guess you know, it's writing an

681
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,920
entire album's worth of lyrics is a daunting task, and

682
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,159
he had done quite a few songs and was just

683
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,480
kind of out of ideas and was stressing about it,

684
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:17,239
and Mutt Lang just, I guess, gets gets the feeling

685
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,599
and goes so he goes by his room and says, hey,

686
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,079
you know, Brian, are you doing all right? He's like, man,

687
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:25,760
I'm just I'm out of ideas, and like, as he

688
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:32,360
says it, lightning strikes yep, right, And then of course,

689
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,079
you know they're in the Bahamas where you get tropical

690
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:41,440
weather just instantaneously and so the lightning strikes and there's

691
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:47,599
this really loud thunder cut that comes through, and Mutt

692
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:50,559
Lange says, God, do you hear that thunder? And Brian

693
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,519
just kind of with his head down says, yeah, it's

694
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:57,920
a rolling thunder. And Mu's like what he says, rolling thunder,

695
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,679
that's just what they call it in the UK. It's

696
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:05,360
all thunder and says, write that down, right, And then

697
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:10,920
as they're talking that, this torrential downpour happens, and so

698
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,239
in moments, you know, you talk about that divine inspiration.

699
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,360
In moments he goes from I can't think of anything

700
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,440
to the first lines of his song, I'm a rolling thunder,

701
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,360
a pouring rain coming on like a hurricane. That's great, man,

702
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,440
that's awesome. Okay. So here's something that Hell's Bells means

703
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:29,679
to me.

704
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: All right, and we talked about this in our Major

705
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:35,360
League episode, But I'm a baseball fan, right right. Trever

706
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,079
Hoffman was a relief pitcher for the San Diego Padres

707
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:42,199
in the nineties, and every time he took the field,

708
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:47,159
they played Hell's Bells as an intimidation to the other team, right, Okay,

709
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,920
So for me, Hell's Bells signifies Trevor Hoffman's coming on

710
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,199
the field.

711
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: He's going to shut everybody down.

712
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,599
Speaker 2: However, this was one of the first they call it

713
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,280
entrance songs for baseball players. Oh yeah, they got this

714
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,760
idea from when Ricky Vaughan took the field and they

715
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,719
played wild thing in Major League.

716
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,519
Speaker 1: So flashback to a Major League episode. That's great. So, yeah,

717
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,599
the you know the line You're only young, but You're

718
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:17,880
gonna die. I mean, they're there are these I mean,

719
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,920
it comes up in a few of the other songs.

720
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,719
There are these references to death and drinking that are

721
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,679
not in any way sentimental, despite the fact that a

722
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,519
month and a half earlier their lead singer had died

723
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:32,199
because of drinking too much.

724
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,199
Speaker 2: Right, basically, every single ac DC song is about either sex, booze,

725
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:37,679
or rock.

726
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it. That's there, that's what they do.

728
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I don't know if Brian Johnson was inspired.

729
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,639
I don't know if like if Bond Scott was speaking

730
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:49,360
to him from beyond the grave, or if he just went,

731
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,199
you know what. Bonn had a lot of success with innuendo.

732
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,639
Let me see what I can do with that. I'm

733
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:58,440
gonna run with that. I think I got this. Yeah,

734
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:58,920
all right.

735
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,039
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the actual bell sound.

736
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they needed a bell. You know, They've got

737
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,719
this idea that the bell is going to be the

738
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,800
perfect way to start the album, the perfect way to

739
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,800
start the song. And they can't get a good bell sound,

740
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:13,960
and somebody says, why don't you just go to the

741
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,679
church it's down the road and just use that bell,

742
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,480
And so they're like okay, and so they take their

743
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:22,000
recording equipment and they go to record the bell and

744
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,360
every time they rang the bell, all these pigeons that

745
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,800
are sitting around the bell would take off flying, and

746
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,400
you had the sound of flapping wings on your recording

747
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,199
of the bell. Yep, and like okay, so we wait

748
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960
for the bell to quiet down. It's finally quiet again,

749
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,239
they hit the bell and by that time all the

750
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,960
pigeons had come back and there's flapping all over again.

751
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,039
They're like, well, balls, this is not going to work.

752
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: So they have to have a bell custom made, right Yeah. Yeah,

753
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:51,679
So they have a bell, a two thousand pounds cast

754
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:55,800
bronze bell made by John Taylor. It's a replica of

755
00:39:56,199 --> 00:40:02,760
the Dennison bell in the Carolyn Tower at Lowborough. War Museum. Okay,

756
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,960
I can't if I mispronounced that. I'm really sorry. I've

757
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,679
never been here. But when they recorded the sound effect

758
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,920
for the bell, they used fifteen microphone because the acoustics

759
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,039
of the bell, you never know where the sound is

760
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,239
going to come from, right microphones. And then when they

761
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,599
got the sound that they wanted, they slowed it down

762
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:25,000
to half speed, so it gives it that real ominous boom.

763
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:29,559
Speaker 1: Oh nice, Okay, that's awesome. Well, and then of course

764
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:33,400
after they produced the album, they went on tour and

765
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,599
they took the bell on tour with them, and they

766
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:39,679
would start every show by lowering that bell down and

767
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,079
Brian Johnson would slam slam it with a hammer as

768
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,599
or you know. Sometimes he would even run and jump

769
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:48,880
and ring the thing. But it was it was a

770
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,119
great stage prop that they had made just by needing

771
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,159
to have the sound for the album You're keeping dragging home.

772
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: There's thirteen bell tolls, four before the music's arts, and

773
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:01,880
nine after all.

774
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, I did not count the bells. Okay.

775
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: The next song on the album is Shoot the Thrill.

776
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,599
Speaker 1: So in just a bit we're going to talk about

777
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,079
Back of Black, which was the intro song for Tony

778
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,679
Stark in iron Man one, and then for iron Man

779
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:44,480
two they used Shoot the Thrill.

780
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,119
Speaker 2: It's so freaking good. This song is awesome.

781
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kicks a whole lot of butt, and it's

782
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:57,280
got the sexual inuendo in there and the dangerousness. You know,

783
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,119
is this a real gun? Are we talking about a

784
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:06,440
male gun? Probably a little double entre picked up on

785
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,039
those euphemisms. Yeah, so you touched on it. You're right.

786
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:11,599
This for my family.

787
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I know this song from Back in Black,

788
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:17,920
but my boys recognize it as basically iron Man's theme, right,

789
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,559
So when he enters in iron Man two, they play

790
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:23,639
Shoot the Thrill. They also play this in the original

791
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:29,000
Avengers when iron Man enters. Brian Johnson was explaining the inspiration.

792
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:29,159
Speaker 1: For this song.

793
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: He talked about how this is about suburban neighborhood board

794
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:42,519
housewives who get into extramarital affairs and too much narcotics.

795
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, the girls who want the bad boys.

796
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: This song, interestingly enough, was never released as a single

797
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,920
and no video was ever made for it.

798
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, because this song is amazing. It was

799
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:56,760
made to be a single. I can't figure out why

800
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
they would not have done that. I'm with you.

801
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,599
Speaker 2: This is one of the best songs on this album.

802
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:02,800
It's a five star song.

803
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:06,039
Speaker 1: But I mean, as I understand it, I think radio

804
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:10,119
stations played every single song on this album at some point,

805
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,840
like it's just not it was whether it was a

806
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,920
single or not. The radio stations recognized this album is

807
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,800
full of hits.

808
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:20,559
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean DJ's definitely lashed onto this song and

809
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,480
played it anyway despite not being released as a single.

810
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:27,039
Speaker 1: All Right, this song's amazing. I love it. Five stars.

811
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:30,559
Speaker 2: Song moving on track number three is a song called

812
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,199
what do You Do for Money?

813
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Honey?

814
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so some of the lyrics on this song talk

815
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:42,559
about calling out gold diggers and saying that he will

816
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,239
not be set up by the women who are after

817
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,800
his gold.

818
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:48,639
Speaker 1: A gold digger song. It's a gold digger song.

819
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,119
Speaker 2: It's a good song. It's not a great song. It's

820
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,360
hard song. Yeah, No, I love this song. Okay, Yeah,

821
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,480
it's a good one. It's hard to maintain the shoot

822
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:03,159
to thrill back in black Kell's Bell's level of songs throughout, but.

823
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Well they come back, but yeah, they come back with

824
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:08,519
kind of their punching intensity that they had from their

825
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:11,440
previous albums. On this one, I mean it explodes out.

826
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,599
Whereas the other ones were a bill, this one is

827
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,519
immediately in your face, bam bam. Yeah. I like it.

828
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: I definitely like it. Track number four is a song

829
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:21,239
called Given the.

830
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: Dog a Bone.

831
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: This is gonna be hard to remain family friendly as

832
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,960
we talk about this one.

833
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: So is it giving the dog or bone or given

834
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:36,880
the Dog a bone? I got given It will appear differently,

835
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,920
like I think on the album it was g I

836
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:43,400
v E N, but then like on iTunes, it's g

837
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:46,719
I v I N and it has appeared as g

838
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,320
I v I N G in certain spots.

839
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:54,039
Speaker 2: Either way, as I can best tell, this is a

840
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,719
song about going to the store buying a milk bone

841
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,280
for your dog.

842
00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know this song.

843
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:07,599
Speaker 2: I saw it described as a very spinal tap esque.

844
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: You're say, you're saying there's a lot of subtlety going

845
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,920
on here, is that right?

846
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,119
Speaker 2: There's some description that leads you to believe certain things.

847
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,599
Speaker 1: So I don't know what do you think about this one?

848
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,159
This one is okay for me, but it wasn't. It

849
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,239
wasn't something that I want to come back and listen

850
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,239
to over and over again. Here's the thing. In all honesty,

851
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,880
here's the thing.

852
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: If you like one ac DC song, you probably like

853
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:38,840
almost all a CDC songs because there's very similar. It's

854
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:46,360
heavy guitars, it's sex, booze and rock. It's pretty simple rock,

855
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:48,000
you know, right in your face.

856
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,199
Speaker 1: Some are just better than others, you know what I mean.

857
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,480
She's no Mona Lisa, she's no playboy star, but she'll

858
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,679
send you to heaven then explode you to Mars. I

859
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,880
really I don't know what he's talking about there. He's

860
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,239
talking about doing ugly chicks sorry, family friendly. He's talking

861
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,840
about having an ugly girlfriend or something. I don't know. Oh, well,

862
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,440
she'll send you to your bars. It's okay. This is

863
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:19,800
this This is kind of like a whole lot of

864
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,880
rosy Part two.

865
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: Nice good reference right there. Okay, good song, not a

866
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,079
great song, good song all right. After giving the Dog

867
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:31,119
a Bone, that brings us to a song called let

868
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:32,760
Me Put My Love into You.

869
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm lost. What do we think we mean

870
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,400
here on this one?

871
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:40,599
Speaker 2: Well, you know I have love to give, and so

872
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,679
let me put it into you, Let me put it

873
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,159
on the line. This song. Okay, I've been waiting to

874
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:46,719
talk about this.

875
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, let me cut your cake with my knife.

876
00:46:57,639 --> 00:46:58,800
Oh my goodness.

877
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:03,039
Speaker 2: All right, so this song has the distinction of being

878
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:09,719
on the Parents' Music Resource Center list of the Filthy fifteen.

879
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:12,639
Speaker 1: Have you heard about this list? Yeah? This is the

880
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:15,480
Tipper Gore thing, right this. Yeah, like all the Sator

881
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,159
senator wives got together and said, these songs are profane,

882
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,119
these songs are awful for our youth. Yeah. So her

883
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:27,199
husband's off inventing the internet and she's complaining about ACDC song.

884
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,679
What's going on there? Okay?

885
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: So here's the Filthy fifteen.

886
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,119
Speaker 1: You ready for this? Yeah?

887
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:35,119
Speaker 2: So let me put my love into you. Okay, we

888
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,119
get it. It's about sex and probably not great for

889
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:42,639
fourteen year olds to be saying that, you know at home.

890
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,280
But here's the I was just curious about who else

891
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,880
was on this list, right, all right? So just some

892
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,360
other songs that you may have heard. A song called

893
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,840
darln Nicky, a song called Nasty Girl by Vanity Sugar,

894
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,920
Walls by Sheena Easton, So Far, we Got Three in

895
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,039
a Row by Prince Right, High and Dry by def Leppard.

896
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:06,840
We're Not Gonna Take It by Twist's sister what yeah,

897
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,960
rebellion type of attitudes. Violence, I think that one no,

898
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:12,559
but yeah, yeah, that's a stretch right there. Well wait,

899
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,800
she Bop by Cindy Lauper.

900
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: What that song's about? Masturbation? Okay?

901
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: And then finally Dress You Up by Madonna.

902
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: I think they were going more for a look than

903
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,199
an actual context of the song.

904
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,679
Speaker 2: Here the Filthy fifteen, that's just a portion now some

905
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,039
of those you're like, some of these styles, I'm like, whoa, yeah,

906
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:35,079
I definitely see what that's on that, But do you

907
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:36,880
have anything more to say about let Me put My

908
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,760
Love into You.

909
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: I can crack up every time I say that. From

910
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,599
what I understand is that all of those songs actually

911
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:45,559
got a boost in ratings when they got put on

912
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:47,880
the Filthy fifteen. Oh yeah.

913
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: One of the songs is by Motley Crue, and Vince

914
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,280
Neil was like, that was great for us.

915
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, these songs are dirty. Let's listen again.

916
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,559
Speaker 2: Okay, So let Me put My Love into You. That

917
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,639
ends side one of Back in Black, Push stop It ejecked,

918
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:12,880
flip it over back in press play.

919
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, at this time, at this point, you're

920
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,119
probably flipping the LP over.

921
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:20,639
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty. You probably are flipping the LP. You're

922
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:21,840
probably about.

923
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: That you you might even be flipping the A track over.

924
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,559
Speaker 2: I had this on tape. Quick funny story about Back

925
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:33,079
in Black. So I was on a ski trip with

926
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,159
five of my high school buddies plus an adult.

927
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:38,159
Speaker 1: To make sure we didn't get in too much trouble.

928
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,039
Speaker 2: So I asked my buddy Chris Bauer, friend of the show,

929
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,159
Chris Bauer, good friend of mine. His nickname was Bomber.

930
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,000
Everybody called him Bomber. So anyway, at about nine pm,

931
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:51,239
we're driving out to Colorado, I asked him. I said, Hey,

932
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,320
can I borrow your Back in Black tape? Because everybody's

933
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,639
got their headphones on their tape tape players. He's like, yeah,

934
00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:57,679
I'll give it to you when I'm done with it.

935
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,360
I'm like, all right, great. So I fall asleep o'clock

936
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,039
in the morning. He whacks me on the forehead with

937
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:03,559
Back in Black and I'm like.

938
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:05,679
Speaker 1: What are you doing, dude. He's like, you want to

939
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:06,280
borrow the tape.

940
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't want you to whack me in

941
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,360
the forehead and wake me up, and alms that fice

942
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,119
fight in the car on the way up to Colorado.

943
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: So this is why you had your mom confiscate his

944
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:15,840
other tape.

945
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: Right, that's right, that's right, all right side to first track.

946
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: A song back in black. Oh no, now I have

947
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,800
to think of it. Oh, something's just happened. Somebody scattered

948
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,840
this song. I'm gonna have to look this up now. Okay,

949
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,519
So forgive me for interrupting this awesome song for just

950
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,760
a second. But somebody scattered the song, and I'm gonna

951
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,440
put it on so.

952
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:51,119
Speaker 7: Well, and uh, you know, I've got the notoriety came

953
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:52,280
from the the A C.

954
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,159
Speaker 1: D C. Which I really took sale, which.

955
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 7: Is the ut.

956
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So this song is very memorable to me for

957
00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:40,280
a couple of reasons. Number one, this is a song

958
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,280
that we would cover this in my band. We did

959
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,840
this song and I don't know why I was dumb

960
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,079
at this particular point, but my drummer just had to say, okay,

961
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:52,440
just wait until I hit the symbol twice before you

962
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880
come in. Okay, and we play in and then it's

963
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,079
gonna go all that's gonna be real quiet, and then

964
00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:00,360
you come in after that. I'm like, okay, I'll right

965
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,719
this time. I promise.

966
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:06,039
Speaker 2: This song is the best song on the album. This

967
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:10,639
song blows me away. The guitars are so hooky, gorgeous,

968
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000
crunchy rock. Love it.

969
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: Malcolm actually had the phrase.

970
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: We talked about that he had the phrase in his

971
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,239
head back in black and he had the riff for

972
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,440
the song before they really had the song. This was

973
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,880
a warm up exercise, kind of like how we talked

974
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,079
about last week with Slash and Sweet Child of Mine.

975
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:31,000
He would do this as a warm up exercise.

976
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So title track right, dedicated to Bond Scott and

977
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,440
one of the lyrics in this song is forget the

978
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,920
hearse because I never die. I love it. I mean

979
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,119
this is this is the perfect tribute to Bond Scott. Right.

980
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically saying, Bond, your spirit will live on,

981
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:57,119
your legacy will live on. I thought it was interesting

982
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,000
they were talking to there's an interview with Brian Johnson

983
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:01,880
and he was talking to Mojo magazine in two thousand

984
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,559
and nine when they said can you write lyrics? They

985
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,559
gave him the music for this song and he's like, well,

986
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:09,679
I'll give it a try, and they said, here's the deal.

987
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,119
The only thing is it can't be morbid. It has

988
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,280
to be for Bond, and it has to be a celebration,

989
00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:18,719
so he thought, okay, So that's when it came up

990
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,000
with you know, nine Lives, Cat's Eyes abusing every one

991
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:27,599
on them and running wild, and the boys really really

992
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:30,000
enjoyed it, and they thought it was a great tribute to.

993
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,199
Speaker 1: Bond, perfect tribute, and it was a perfect tribute for

994
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,840
the fans to hear as well, for them to go, Okay,

995
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,159
this guy's one of us. Yeah, And I think it worked.

996
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,320
I think it totally worked. I think the fans embraced

997
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,440
Brian Johnson. I don't. I mean there's I'm sure there's

998
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,400
there's a section of folks out there that were, like,

999
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:53,920
I don't really care for ACDC after Bond died. Probably

1000
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,360
a really small contention. Yeah.

1001
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,199
Speaker 2: The vocals on this are incredible.

1002
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1003
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, this is Brian Johnson at his best right.

1004
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: And it's that.

1005
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,119
Speaker 2: Perfect singing scream you know. I mean we talked about

1006
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:13,280
when Nirvana did it, but it's just that perfect oh,

1007
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,760
that full emotion that sounds great.

1008
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's they have I won't I

1009
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,880
won't say it's I mean that their voices are not

1010
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,320
the same, but there's a similarness to them. I mean

1011
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,519
he can pull off the Bond Scott songs right right,

1012
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:32,119
he can. He can sing Highway to Hell and still

1013
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:36,599
kill it. But just you know, the voice. Bond Scott's

1014
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,920
voice was a gravel voice, right I read he actually

1015
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,360
his early morning ritual was to gargle with honey and

1016
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:50,360
red wine and that kept his voice nice and raspy.

1017
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,960
And then and then Angus described Brian Johnson's voice as

1018
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:58,480
what somebody sounds like if you dropped a truck on

1019
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:05,320
their foot. He's got a screech, you know. Brian Johnson

1020
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,639
has got a higher pitched screaming style to his voice,

1021
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,480
but it fits with the ACDC style perfectly. What a

1022
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,119
great tribute.

1023
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: This album came out five months after Bond's death, and

1024
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,840
this wonderful, amazing song, and it's a tribute to Bond.

1025
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,519
I will tell you this. This is a cool thing

1026
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:27,159
that I found. Kurt Cobain was given a guitar on

1027
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,880
his fourteenth birthday and the first song you learned to

1028
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,800
play was Back in Black. Okay, if you're a movie fan,

1029
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:38,840
you'll recognize this from Iron Man called Grudge Match, Mega

1030
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,880
Mind Karate Kid, the remake eh, the one we don't

1031
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:49,000
talk about, okay, School of Rock and the Muppets. The Muppets,

1032
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:51,119
not the Muppet Movie, not the Great Muppet Caper.

1033
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: The Muppets. Oh, the Muppets from like twenty eleven. Okay, yeah,

1034
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:58,920
so okay, all.

1035
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: Right, so we're done with Back in Black, starting off

1036
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,719
side to with an amazing song. Then we follow that

1037
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,440
one up with you Shook Me All Night Long.

1038
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: She s, this is the best song.

1039
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: Now I can't really argue the two songs are freaking amazing.

1040
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,159
Speaker 1: Back to back. Yeah, I can remember. I can remember

1041
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:47,519
as a kid, the same cousins that as a seven

1042
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,480
year old I went and saw my first three sets

1043
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,639
of boobies in the movie theater. When I became a teenager,

1044
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,760
I think I was probably fourteen when I went out

1045
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,480
to see them again and they had they had CDs

1046
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:04,360
and they had a really large CD collection. They were musicians,

1047
00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:09,599
and among the CDs was van Halen one. So that's

1048
00:57:09,639 --> 00:57:11,760
how I get introduced to Van Halen one, which we

1049
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,079
talk about in which I still say is my favorite

1050
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:17,639
Van Halen album to this day. And then also Back

1051
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:22,199
in Black and I made the best mixtape that has

1052
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:26,679
ever existed in the history of mixtapes, using all of

1053
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:32,280
their CDs. But I was a collectick in my taste,

1054
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,840
and so were they. And so now every time I

1055
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,239
hear you Shook Me All Night Long when the song ends,

1056
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:44,000
I really expect Crazy by Patsy Klein to come on

1057
00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:47,320
that trade.

1058
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: Man, we got that mixtape mixed up in your head.

1059
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Pavlovian repose, because it was that was what was next

1060
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,000
on the mixtape, and I listened to it eight million times,

1061
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:01,639
So I just that's I expect be weird for Pandora

1062
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:02,360
to do that though.

1063
00:58:03,559 --> 00:58:08,199
Speaker 2: Okay, here's an interesting thing for you. When I discovered ACDC,

1064
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,079
it was in nineteen eighty six when they came out

1065
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:14,000
with the album Who Made Who, which was the soundtrack

1066
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:19,079
for Maximum over Drive. Right right, this is Stephen King

1067
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:20,679
movie with Emelia Estebez.

1068
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:21,599
Speaker 1: It's terrible.

1069
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: It was terrible, but the soundtrack was amazing. So it

1070
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,639
had all ACDC songs and one of them was you

1071
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,039
Shook Me All Night Long along with Hell's Bells. So

1072
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,159
they pluck some from Back in Black, and that's how

1073
00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:37,360
I discovered this song. What I really like about this

1074
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,599
song is when it starts, you have the guitar and

1075
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:43,199
then as you continue on on the left side of

1076
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:44,800
your stereo and.

1077
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:48,599
Speaker 1: Then it comes in with like the twinning guitar. Yep.

1078
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:50,639
They bounce it back, they pan it back and forth.

1079
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:51,239
It's awesome.

1080
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great effect. This song reached number thirty

1081
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,840
five on the US Hot one hundred.

1082
00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. This was the first single off of the album.

1083
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: YEP, released August ninth, nineteen eighty.

1084
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: So Brian Johnson came up with this song because of

1085
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:10,360
all of the posters of American girls that were in

1086
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,400
the Bahamas, and I guess somehow he was thinking about

1087
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,159
his old car shop at the same time he was

1088
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:19,480
thinking about those girls. Because she was a fast machine,

1089
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:20,719
she kept hermoter clean.

1090
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: She was the best damn woman that he'd ever seen.

1091
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,599
I did hear, and we're talking about writing the lyrics

1092
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,519
to this. He the line she told me to come,

1093
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:34,840
but I was already there. Oh my gosh. He thought

1094
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,239
he pushed it too far on that one, and they

1095
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:38,599
were like, no, sounds great.

1096
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:40,199
Speaker 1: YEP, best line on the album. Really.

1097
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,119
Speaker 2: You know who else has a version of the song,

1098
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:47,599
Shania Twain and Celine Dion.

1099
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like one of the worst covers of

1100
00:59:50,239 --> 01:00:03,639
all time. Give me a second. All right.

1101
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: So You Shook Me All Night Long was placed at

1102
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,639
number ten on VH one's list of the one hundred

1103
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:10,679
Greatest Songs.

1104
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: Of the eighties. So I heard, and I haven't verified

1105
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,119
these yet, but I heard that there were some copies

1106
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,840
of the single that were pressed incorrectly and they accidentally

1107
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,559
put shake a Leg on there instead of Shook Me

1108
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:29,159
All Night Long. Yeah, I heard about that.

1109
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:31,239
Speaker 2: That would be cool collectors item.

1110
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently it's Yeah, it's tough to get, but they're yeah,

1111
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,519
it's collector's item. They're expensive.

1112
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shake a Leg not nearly as good a.

1113
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: Song as You Shook Me All Night Long? Oh, not

1114
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:41,519
a bit.

1115
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,039
Speaker 2: Okay, listen to this. I got this cool story VH

1116
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:46,400
one series pop Up video.

1117
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: You remember that, ah, VH one the pop up video.

1118
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:51,840
I have not thought about that in a long time. Okay,

1119
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,639
go ahead, all right.

1120
01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:57,239
Speaker 2: So, according to VH one's pop Up Videos, the video

1121
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,679
for You Shook Me All Night Long featured a mechanical

1122
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:05,719
bowl with a woman playing Johnson's lover riding the mechanical bull.

1123
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,159
Speaker 1: I remember that during the filming she.

1124
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Accidentally jabbed herself with a spur The roadie who came

1125
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:15,199
to her aid married her a year later. Ah and

1126
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,639
Hanka's young gave them a mechanical bull as a wedding present.

1127
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:26,119
Speaker 1: That's awesome. How about that? That's all right? We done

1128
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:27,880
when you shook me on that long? Yes?

1129
01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:31,559
Speaker 2: Okay, two amazing songs back to back.

1130
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:37,159
Speaker 1: Next song is no, that's not it. Okay, sorry, sorry, no, no, no, no,

1131
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:55,360
have a drink on me again. I just love it that. Hey,

1132
01:01:57,039 --> 01:01:59,920
let's sing songs about drinking. I know we just lost

1133
01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:03,360
buddy to drinking, so have a drink on me. Yeah,

1134
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,000
And I mean it's it's perfect. It's exactly what. It's

1135
01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:11,199
kind of their toast to him, right right. It's like, hey,

1136
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,840
you you brought us here. Thank you, we're having a

1137
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,679
drink on you.

1138
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:17,599
Speaker 2: Seriously, they don't see Bond's death as a PSA. They

1139
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:20,079
just see it as a celebration to continue doing what

1140
01:02:20,119 --> 01:02:20,559
we're doing.

1141
01:02:20,639 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: So lived life to the fullest.

1142
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: Okay, have a drink on me. Awesome song. Not quite

1143
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,639
at the level as Back and Black and You Shook

1144
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:31,039
Me On It Long. Just another great song on this album.

1145
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: So honestly, this one is one of my least favorites

1146
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:36,280
on the album. I know that this is one that

1147
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,519
the fans. Yeah, I know, this is one of the

1148
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:40,320
ones that fans love it. And it's not bad. I

1149
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,119
don't hate it or anything, but this is not one

1150
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:44,440
that I get excited about.

1151
01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:48,039
Speaker 2: Okay, So you and I talked earlier this week. There

1152
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:51,199
are songs like my personal songwriting. This is a turn

1153
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,920
it up song, this is a let it.

1154
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: Ride song, or this is a skip song. Yeah, I'm

1155
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,840
gonna I mean, I'm probably gonna fast forward through the song. Okay,

1156
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:03,159
you can me sorry, man. I love the song, all right,

1157
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:04,159
So that does.

1158
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: It for have a dream?

1159
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Now we're on the shake a Leg, yes, which

1160
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,519
I think you know when whenever Angus Young plays and

1161
01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:18,360
he does a crazy, crazy show anyway, but he has

1162
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,480
this stick that he does that is totally a Chuck

1163
01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:24,320
Berry knockoff where he kind of does the duck walk

1164
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:27,639
and he's kicking his leg out there and it's this

1165
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,280
goofy crazy thing. And every time I hear the song,

1166
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,760
I'm like, we're talking about Angus, right, this is Angus

1167
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,960
shaking his leg exactly exactly.

1168
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: On that note, I read a story this really involves Bond.

1169
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,480
But one of the things that Angus used to do

1170
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:44,840
was he'd get on the shoulders of a roadie, right,

1171
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,800
and he'd play in the crowd. The roady would carry

1172
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,840
him around the crowd and he's, of course, he's five

1173
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,880
foot two, he's this little shrimpy guy and he's playing

1174
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,920
this killer guitar. And then the roady would bring him

1175
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,159
back up on stage.

1176
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: He put him up on Bond's.

1177
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 2: Shoulders and he'd play on Bos's shoulders. But if he

1178
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:04,159
got a bad saddle, he would say me bowls, me bawls,

1179
01:04:04,199 --> 01:04:11,679
put me down. It's awesome, all right, So shake a

1180
01:04:11,719 --> 01:04:13,039
Leg is an awesome song too.

1181
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:14,679
Speaker 1: It's a good song.

1182
01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: We talked about how this was printed on some of

1183
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,960
the You Shook Me All Night.

1184
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: Long singles, and that has become a collector's edition. It's

1185
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:21,960
it's a good song.

1186
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,679
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's not the world's best song, but

1187
01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:25,119
it's good.

1188
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, what's you're feeling on again? This is you

1189
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,119
know the you pointed out that there's not a lot

1190
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,320
of variation in the sound in these songs, right, right,

1191
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,119
and so some of them, I mean, the great thing

1192
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,159
is is that they're great songs. So if you're gonna

1193
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:46,519
repeat something great, that's good. They're all fists pumping, they've

1194
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:50,679
all got that solid, punchy guitar that you know doesn't

1195
01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:54,239
have the reverb. It's just pomp, but right there in

1196
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,599
your face. But some of them don't sell me the

1197
01:04:57,639 --> 01:05:00,960
way that others do. And if I'm listening to that

1198
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:04,280
and I'm thinking, Okay, this is the seventh time I've

1199
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,679
heard this kind of sound and it's not just blowing

1200
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,519
me away, that's time.

1201
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: On that note, You're exactly right. There's not a lot

1202
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,000
of variations. So if you like one song, you probably

1203
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:13,960
like most of them. Some of them strike you're a

1204
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,880
little bit stronger than the others. But notice, so far

1205
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,199
there have been no ballads.

1206
01:05:18,519 --> 01:05:18,679
Speaker 1: Right.

1207
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you heard this story, but

1208
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,760
at the time, the production company, the producers came in

1209
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,599
and basically put their foot down and said, you guys

1210
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:27,960
have got to.

1211
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: Come up with a ballad.

1212
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:34,079
Speaker 2: Your peers are writing ballads that are selling their albums

1213
01:05:34,119 --> 01:05:34,519
like crazy.

1214
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: You guys got to come up with a ballad.

1215
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:39,159
Speaker 2: And they said, we don't know how to do it, like,

1216
01:05:39,199 --> 01:05:41,920
we don't know where to start. We've never done one.

1217
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:44,800
And so the producers are like, all right, here's what

1218
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,159
you do. Think about your last girlfriend, write some lyrics down.

1219
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,800
We'll send in the guy to help you.

1220
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: All right.

1221
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: So after this they kind of gave it the good

1222
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,880
old college try, and when the producers came in to

1223
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:03,239
listen to the results, they just got up, shook their head,

1224
01:06:03,639 --> 01:06:05,679
walked out of the room and said, you guys, just

1225
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,760
keep doing what you're doing.

1226
01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:13,599
Speaker 1: That's that's good. That's good. Yeah. I don't know. I mean,

1227
01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:16,079
I don't know what I would do if I heard

1228
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:19,639
a ballad from ac DC. I can't. It just would

1229
01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:22,599
be wrong, right, It just doesn't go together. Yeah, it'd

1230
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:26,320
be It'd be like Celine Dion singing an ac DC song.

1231
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:32,039
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, like putting mayonnaise on a steak. I mean,

1232
01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:39,239
just yeah, yeah, all right. So the last song on

1233
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,280
the album is a song called rock and Roll Ain't

1234
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,000
Noise Pollution.

1235
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:47,559
Speaker 1: So I've said, now, hey, I've heard the same song,

1236
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,800
you know, the same style of song, over and over.

1237
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,360
This is one where I was getting to that point.

1238
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,920
But I was then I was like, whoa, hey, this

1239
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:00,639
is different, this is bluesy, this is more kind of

1240
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:04,480
I'm grooving here a bit. And you got Brian Johnson,

1241
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,719
who apparently Mutt Lang just told them, hey, just say

1242
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:11,519
something over this. I just need something, you know, so

1243
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:14,239
that I know that your microphone's working or something like that.

1244
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,079
And so Brian Johnson does this kind of preacher esque

1245
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:22,199
kind of speech to the working man and what left

1246
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:22,440
it on?

1247
01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: Hey you there, all you middle men, throw away your

1248
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,480
fancy clothes. And while you're out there sitting on a fence,

1249
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:30,559
so get off your ass, come down here.

1250
01:07:31,239 --> 01:07:32,079
Speaker 1: Rock and roll.

1251
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:36,559
Speaker 2: Ain't no real man. To me, it makes good, good sense.

1252
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this song, I mean, on an album full of

1253
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,199
great music, this song might be number two for me.

1254
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,920
I really really dig this song a lot. They throw

1255
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:51,880
you a curveball at the end. They finish with something

1256
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,559
that is unique, and it's not so unique that you're like,

1257
01:07:54,559 --> 01:07:57,639
what is this? It's still ac DC. The guitar still

1258
01:07:57,639 --> 01:07:59,840
comes in here in a little bit, and it's still

1259
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,960
pick some major butt. But it has got a groove

1260
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:06,800
to it that that the other songs don't have. Not

1261
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,559
that they're bad, it's just that they don't have that

1262
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:10,360
kind of groove that this one has.

1263
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So I love hearing that from me. This song

1264
01:08:14,159 --> 01:08:18,720
starts out slow, but it has a building power and

1265
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,239
it comes full tilt. This is a great, great song

1266
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,039
for me on the album as well. This one blows

1267
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:27,239
my skirt up, as you would say. But this song

1268
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,119
is similar to or some Sugar on Me. We talked

1269
01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:33,560
about when we covered Hysteria that Mutt Lane got to

1270
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,920
the end and said, all right, guys, we got some good,

1271
01:08:36,199 --> 01:08:37,680
really good, solid songs.

1272
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,119
Speaker 1: Here, but we need one more, right right.

1273
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: So initially they only had nine tracks for Back in Black,

1274
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:46,600
but they thought they needed one more song. So Mutt

1275
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,960
Lane said, all right, guys, get to work. Angus and

1276
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:53,119
Malcolm wrote this song. The music for the song in

1277
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:54,399
about fifteen minutes.

1278
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible.

1279
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it caps off this album so good.

1280
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'll say this before we get into our

1281
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,199
final judgment. They had a formula that they put into

1282
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:08,199
play here. Yes, and that formula worked. Oh yes, it

1283
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:11,159
still works, it really does. And the and the songs

1284
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,079
they last the test of time. This album is a

1285
01:09:14,119 --> 01:09:15,479
great album.

1286
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be

1287
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,119
right back after these messages.

1288
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 1: I think at this point, unless we've got more to

1289
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,119
talk about, it's time to jump into final judgment. Let's

1290
01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:31,520
do it, Okay, I'm gonna let you go first this time.

1291
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Before I get to final judgment, I did want

1292
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,239
to bring up something really quick. These two albums that

1293
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:42,279
were comparing are similar, and they're both rock blues bassed rock.

1294
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: They both have that screechy.

1295
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: Strong guitar, strong vocals, really turn it up, pump your

1296
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,399
pump your brains out type of music. But these are

1297
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,960
both all time best selling albums.

1298
01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:57,399
Speaker 1: Okay, yep.

1299
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: Now, for whatever reason, it's difficult to pin down an

1300
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:06,680
exact number on album sales, right. I have seen acdc's

1301
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,359
Back and Black listed as high as number two on

1302
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,720
all time sales.

1303
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: Just behind Michael Jackson's Thriller highest for a band.

1304
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: Yes, this one has it at number seven overall, with

1305
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,760
Appetite for Destruction at number thirteen. So one of the

1306
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,600
things that really can't be disputed is that guns Rose's

1307
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,479
Appetite for Destruction is the best selling debut.

1308
01:10:30,119 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 1: Album of all time. Yes, okay, yeah, all right.

1309
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,279
Speaker 2: So when I go to final judgment, here's what I'm weighing.

1310
01:10:36,359 --> 01:10:39,560
I've got to what I would consider front to back.

1311
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,800
Every song on it is a non skipper for me.

1312
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:48,960
Twelve tracks, no filler, all killer, back in Black. Back

1313
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:53,600
in Black is the same way. It's shorter. Okay, Now, then,

1314
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,880
in my estimation, Appetite for Destruction is a better album,

1315
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,199
partially because it has more tracks. But we had never

1316
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,520
heard Guns of Roses before. So I'm gonna give ACDC

1317
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,560
a little bit of a break here. They get a

1318
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,680
little bit of grace because this is their seventh album

1319
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,039
and they did this six weeks after they lost their

1320
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:16,720
lead singer. So I'm not discrediting Back in Black at all.

1321
01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:22,159
The accomplishment of Back in Black is incredible under those circumstances.

1322
01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:24,680
But for me, if you put a gun to my head,

1323
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,760
the first one I'm getting out of my tape deck

1324
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,039
is Appetite for Destruction.

1325
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:33,520
Speaker 1: What do you think? Okay, So here's my thought. We've

1326
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,720
got two bands, and the last time that we talked,

1327
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,560
I said, hey, you know, what do you think the

1328
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,479
difference is between hard rock and heavy metal? And you

1329
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,159
had kind of an idea and I shared what my

1330
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:49,359
thoughts with you were. But as we're going through this process,

1331
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:53,159
we're examining a lot of music, right. I mean, we've

1332
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:56,720
listened to Journey, We've listened to the Police, We've listened

1333
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,479
to def Leppard, We've listened to Van Halen, We've listened

1334
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,119
to Nirvana, We've listened to Pearl Jam. And as I'm

1335
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,840
going through this and I'm trying to you know, I'm

1336
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,680
looking at these musical categories and I'm and you know,

1337
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,479
is this alternative music? Is this hard rock? Is this

1338
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:18,359
heavy metal? Is this something entirely different? What is this?

1339
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,239
And something that spoke to me about both of these bands,

1340
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,199
they both said the same thing when people would try

1341
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:27,720
to paint them into a corner, like are you metal

1342
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,239
or are you hard rock? They both said the same thing.

1343
01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:34,760
We play rock and roll. Yeah, and that's it, like,

1344
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,840
and that's the you know, it's the lyric to the

1345
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,640
Billy Joel song. Is the thing that's screaming in my head.

1346
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,159
It's all rock and roll to me, right yeah. I mean,

1347
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:45,640
I realize that there are some folks who hate on

1348
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,000
some of the bands that we have talked about in

1349
01:12:48,039 --> 01:12:49,920
the past because of what they did to some of

1350
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,760
the bands that we're talking about right now, But it's

1351
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,399
all rock and roll. Ultimately, it is all rock and roll.

1352
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,920
And I love rock and roll, and right now, you

1353
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,640
can't get a good rock and roll song from anybody

1354
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,560
that I can find. I'm waiting for that comeback. I'm

1355
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,800
waiting for the I'm waiting for the ACDC of the

1356
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,840
two thousands to show up, where the Van Halen or

1357
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,319
the Pearl Jam, whoever it is, is going to show

1358
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,159
up and say, guys, we're going to start rocking the

1359
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:21,760
free world again. I'm ready for that. So what ac

1360
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:26,760
DC did was pure simple rock. They had that formula.

1361
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:31,760
You have a punch guitar, you have loud drums, and

1362
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:37,359
you have euphemistic lyrics that are about the basics of sex,

1363
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,359
drugs and rock and roll. Man, I mean that's sex, booze,

1364
01:13:40,399 --> 01:13:42,640
and rock and roll. Whatever you want to say. And

1365
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,920
so they they set a standard. I mean, Back in

1366
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,840
Black has set the standard for what playing rock and

1367
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,520
roll in the eighties means. And so they're there at

1368
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:58,840
the beginning of the eighties setting the standard. And yes,

1369
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,640
it's career. It is unarguably one of the best albums

1370
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:09,119
of all time. But because they're so dedicated to their formula,

1371
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,520
there's a lack of variation that you have that you

1372
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,880
get from other albums, and that you specifically get from

1373
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:22,960
Appetite for Destruction. Appetite is good old rock and roll

1374
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:26,079
hard rock, rock and roll, whatever you want to call it.

1375
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,760
But they have a little bit of a ballad that

1376
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,600
comes in from time to time. They've got a variation

1377
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,640
in their sound. They use a talk box here and there,

1378
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,039
and with doing all of those variations, they not only

1379
01:14:41,079 --> 01:14:44,560
give you variety, but they maintain some kick butt tunes.

1380
01:14:45,079 --> 01:14:47,520
And so I have to say I'm on the same

1381
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,520
page with you. I think Appetite wins the day. It

1382
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,800
doesn't sold as many albums, it probably doesn't have as

1383
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,479
many diehard fans. But when I'm putting them on the scales,

1384
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,880
as you say, if I decide, okay, I got two

1385
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,840
tapes I can pick before I walk out the door,

1386
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,560
I'm gonna pick Appithite.

1387
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: Something that would be a complete oversight if we don't

1388
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,640
mention Brian Johnson when he had to step away from

1389
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,079
ac DC for a little bit. Yeah, we filled in

1390
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:18,760
for him. Axel Rose, Axel Rose and guns and Roses

1391
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,840
you sent me. They play a whole lot of Rosie.

1392
01:15:22,079 --> 01:15:25,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when they first when they first came out,

1393
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:30,680
Melody Maker described them as a week ACDC. You know.

1394
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:31,960
And here's the other thing.

1395
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: ACDC has given us thirty years worth.

1396
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,239
Speaker 1: Of great music. Forty years worth of great music. Well,

1397
01:15:40,279 --> 01:15:42,279
if they did it first in seventy six, it's nearly

1398
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,119
forty five. Gosh, that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they keep a CDC has been pumping out

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music for decades.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, not all of it is Back in Black or

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Highway to Hell. No, some of the I don't have

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any songs on it, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but they still even in you know, even

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in their fifties, they were making some hints.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, guns and Roses. On the other hand,

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you know, I keep waiting and waiting and waiting, and

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it's just.

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Speaker 1: Not going to happen. So I think that Appetite will

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continue to stand the test of time. I think Back

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in Black will continue to stand the test of time.

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They're both albums that you can go back to over

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and over again, and I think without Back in Black,

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there there is no GNR. There is no appetite for destruction.

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So you got to give you got to give them

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that consideration. But it's a hard choice. These are definitely

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two major contenders. But we'd love to hear from you guys.

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Tell us what you think.

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Speaker 2: For me, this is appetite by a nose, But tell

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us where we're at. If you're all the way back

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in black, or if you hate appetite, if you hate

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access voice, or if you think Bob Scott was the

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man in Back and Back and everything after that was terrible,

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let us hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you can catch us on Twitter at Shirley Podcast,

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on Facebook at Shirley Podcasts, or if you want to

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send us an email. We respond to every single email

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that we get, and that's shirleypodcast at gmail dot com.

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We really appreciate all of the support that you continue

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to give us. We're overwhelmed by how many people have

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reached out and given us their opinion on things. It's fantastic.

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We love it. So please join us in the debate

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here and let us know what you think. All right,

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Thanks everybody for listening.

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Speaker 2: Check us out on Facebook and Twitter, and we will

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see you next time.

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