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and Empire is Pete of the Pete Kenjunas Show. You'll
find them over at petequinonez dot substack dot com. Thelink
is in the description Welcome to the podcast, Pete. Thanks
for having me, Thanks for having me. It's been a while.
It's been quite a while. I think you were on
my old TNT radio show a few times, but it's
your first time on my podcast, Geopolitics and Empire. And
maybe for people who are not aware of you, you know,
whatever you want to tell us about yourself and your
show and the work that you're doing.
Speaker 2: Sure, I host a peak and Yana show. I've been
going eight years now. It's my main thing is the podcast.
I have the Substack, which you can find at Pete
substack dot com. All the episodes go up there to
subscribers early and add free shows on all podcatchers. I
try to do as many private things on substack as
I can, but I don't have a lot of time
to do it. I'm also a founding member of the
Old Glory Club, which is a fraternity that has come
into existence in the last few years to talk about
ways to push forward with the idea of America and
what America was, what America should be, what it was
at one time, what we lost, and what we're trying
to get back. And yeah, that's about it. We am
just I work. This is what I do fallse time,
and I am constantly working.
Speaker 3: I'm in that same well.
Speaker 1: We're all in this together, uh, Pete, I'm doing this
full time for now, for as long as people will
allow me to. Uh.
Speaker 3: And before getting you know, to America.
Speaker 1: It's funny I was looking at your listening to some
of your podcasts today. You recently read through Edward Lutwak's Kudeta.
He was a recent guest of mine on the podcast,
and I noticed a lot of your style is you know,
you do interviews, but you also do a lot you
read through a lot of books. If you don't just
tell us a bit about the you know, your style
of podcasting.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I talk a lot about philosophy, I talk
a lot about politics. I talk a lot about history.
I started reading books like full books over multi episodes
a few years ago, and I did it. One of
the reasons I did it was I didn't have a
lot of time to read books anymore. So it's like, hey,
I get a chance to read this. But more than anything,
it was just to get the ideas out there of
books that people don't read. And I guess, yeah, I
read stuff like State Revolution by Lenin ted Kaczynski's Manifesto.
But really what set me down the path of doing
it constantly was reading a book by a gentleman named
Harold Saltzman called Race Warren High School, and it talks
about how what bussing did to one specific New York
City high school in the nineteen sixties, and how it
went from a school where people were thriving and getting
ready for college to a school where teachers were being raped,
people were oding, kids were oding in the hallways, and
teachers were being set on fire. And when I read
through that with numerous guests, that pretty much solidified that
I'm always going to be reading something on my show.
And right now I'm thirty episodes into reading two Hundred
Years Together by Doctor by Alexander Solshanisan with doctor Matthew
Rafael Johnson, and we aren't one third of the way
through the book yet. So this is going to turn
into well over one hundred episodes, and we don't it's
probably going to be through the rest of the year.
So yeah, I like to take on huge tasks and
and see them through. It's like a new form of
doing audio books. And that's so cool with you know,
with this space, there's there's, uh, you know, so many ways.
Speaker 3: To invent new ways to do things.
Speaker 1: And you know America, I guess you mentioned the old
Glory Club, was it? And something I often think about, Uh,
how what you know, what have we lost? What's your
sort of pulse on where we're at with America today?
Speaker 2: Well, we've lost the the idea that we were once
a people. America right now is just basically an an
error strip mall where it's we're basically an economic zone,
where a place where people come to make money, send
money back to wherever they came from. And they don't
come here to be Americans. They don't come here like
my great grandfather did, who came from Poland and renounced
his citizenship and had to renounce his allegiances to his
home country, and then went to work in the coal
mines in western Pennsylvania and raised his family there and
is buried there and everyone, all of his kids are
buried there. That kind of thing that's not America anymore.
There is there are parts of America where that still exists,
still exists where I've chosen to live.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 2: Idea that we're a people, that this was this country
was founded by a certain amount, by a certain group
of people, and that they invited other people in and
grafted them in with the on the with the notion
that they were going to become like them, that they
were going to share their culture, their high culture, well
that just disappeared one hundred years ago. You can even
go back one hundred and twenty five years and that's
been it's pretty much been gone. And you see what
it's wrought. You see how this country now, like I said,
is all about economics, and we barely even manufacture anything anymore.
So basically we were all about financialization. We're about usury,
We're about investing in markets, We're about what do we make?
You know, we sent that overseas and we allow somebody
else to make our prescription medication, the chips for our weapons,
the you know, the very things that we need to
survive and to protect ourselves are now controlled by a
foreign power. And that's something that Walk talks about in Kudeta.
If you're a country who is not making your own weapons,
you are and you're getting them from someone else, you're
a vassal state to whoever you're getting them from. Now,
we do still make our own weapons here, but a
lot of the chips and a lot of the components
come from other places. So are we like you know,
places like you know Ukraine, which basically relies completely on
Western nations for their defense and hence basically we can
tell that now we can dictate what their politics is. Well,
I mean, there are so many foreign interests that are
that are embedded into the United States because of you know,
what we've allowed to happen and what we've given up that,
Like I said, we are just this commercial zone now,
we are not a country anymore. There are pockets of
the country that still have that spirit, but for the
most part, people don't talk about this as if it's
a nation, as if it's a polus anymore. It's just
a place to come and make money.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think your diagnosis, it's it's accurate, and it's maybe
I've heard something like this before, but yeah, it's a
new way of looking at it. And it's so true,
you know when you say people just go there to
make money and leave. And I was just thinking about
myself and my parents came in the eighties from Croatia
and they've gone back. Now they've got nothing in the US,
they've gone back to Croatia. I just by chance and circumstance,
I left for Mexico.
Speaker 3: And that's just the way you know, life takes you.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's a lot of people, even particularly Croats,
and you know those types of ethnic groups, once they've
hit retirement age, they leave often, you know, if they're
first generation immigrants and just on the economy. You know,
since you brought up brought that up that's I guess
what you mentioned is what America has going for it now.
But you know, I'm wondering how much even that has
has something going for it because you got the tear effs.
Speaker 3: I talk to.
Speaker 1: People in the US who are on the ground, are
saying it's difficult to find employment. The cost of living
is rising globally. You know, how do you assess the
economic strength of the US.
Speaker 2: Well, unless we start making our own things again, not
good because right now the success of the United States
basically is contingent upon how strong the dollar, and how
strong Wall Street is, and how strong and how the treasure,
how the Treasury operates, how the Federal Reserve operates. We,
like I said, we are financialized, you know. I mean,
I'm not saying that I don't own stocks, sure of course,
why wouldn't I you know, and I know people who
feel like I do. They're like, this is a financialized
usory is terrible. I know hedge fund managers who feel
that way. They want the country to go back to
the way it was. Well, why did they pick what
they do so they could make a whole lot of
money so that they're not affected in the future by
what could potentially happen so that they could buy hard assets,
they could buy land, they could buy gold, they could
buy silver, so that they'll always have something of wealth.
Speaker 3: But we have to.
Speaker 2: Basically decide that we're going to make things here again.
And I think a lot of that starts locally. You know,
I live in a small town, and there's a lot
of land around here. There is no reason why we
shouldn't be able to attract and there are a lot
of people around here who don't have jobs. There is
no reason why we shouldn't be able to attract factories
to come here, companies to come here, and you know,
but as far as the country goes, I don't know
if it's salvageable. It's way too big. There's too many people.
There's so many people here who don't belong here, who
are here illegally, or if they're not here illegally, they're
just here for like we said, just here to make money,
and then they're going to send us someplace else or
leave eventually. You know, I don't know if it's sustainable
as a large polity. It's I think, you know, we're
headed towards some kind of Balkanization. De facto, de facto
or otherwise, And you know, I think that's the only
way we get through this. I do not see mass
deportations happening. I do not see crime and certain groups
that are overwhelming you over represented in violent crime being
on a mass scale, being either controlled or jailed. As
a matter of fact, most of them get out of
jail they you know, and our cotyranny takes over, and
the people in charge are like, well, it's better, they're better,
it's better off on the street. They can they can punish,
they can punish the people who are doing well, and
then we just have to continue having this whole cycle
of people that we can import in because you know,
the the either the founding stock or the people who
are of the spirit of the founding stock, or just further,
you know, pushed further and further out.
Speaker 3: So, you know, I think that we have to take.
Speaker 2: A more local approach, but we also have to start
getting back to building with our hands and building things
with our hands, building things locally and really taking a
building up and strengthening our local areas. And I honestly
believe that the stronger local area is the weaker big cities,
which are the enemy of you know, basically our enemy
they become. We can by by having stronger local areas
and more rural areas. The cities lose power because we
don't have to rely upon them for anything. We can
cut their food supply off if we want. I mean,
that's what my area I live in. It probably supplies
eggs and milk and everything to most of the country.
We could cut people if we were smart, we could
just cut people off. We could, you know, I also
have I also have a feeling that we're headed towards
some localized pockets of violence. But that's another story. Well anyway,
maybe we can get to that.
Speaker 1: But just on the and I want to ask you
more about the Balkanization, but just on the tariff thing.
Like I'm trying to make sense. I listened to smart
people who have differing opinions, and I'm just waiting for
the shoe to drop because it's you know, Trump says
one thing, that he says another, and then China this
and that, and it's not clear. I feel like it's
this fog now and I have no idea what is
going on until something concrete happens, and like kind of
like you allude to.
Speaker 3: I just find it.
Speaker 1: It would be great to rebuild right as you say, factories,
But can we do it? I don't know. And then
this few you know, you mentioned folks in the US
illegally who make up a lot of you know, the workforce.
But now we've got robotics coming in. You know, there's
a danger of AI software, robots, drones going to replace
you know, we've we've all seen these videos of it.
At farms they got drones watering you know, agriculture, and
and and and and stuff like this. So, you know,
any further thought on tariffs, whether we can actually bring
bring back that that can induce investment to come back
and rebuild plants, and thoughts on robotics, you know, replacing humans.
Speaker 3: I'll go with robotics first.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, you have to ask yourself, if robotics
are going to and take all the jobs, where are
we importing so many people?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: If for if everybody's looking towards AI, then we're just
importing people from different cultures to punish the you know,
the founding stock that are here. The will they will
that happen?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how on grand the scale that's going
to happen or how fast that's going to happen. I mean,
I use AI for research. I mean that's pretty much
what I use it for. I know it can be
used for code. I know that one of the big
things that people talking about is using it for coding.
Then there is robotics, but I don't know. I there
are certain things, there are certain problem solving skills that
only a human can really can really deal with, and
I think when it comes to manufacturing, a lot of
that is going to still have to be human. I
don't know, you know, I'm well, like I said, I
tend to think of things on a smaller scale because
I don't see the future being being national. I see
the future being local. What was the other What was
the other one you mentioned? No, that was pretty much.
And I want to ask you about the Balkanization. You
think that's going to be something that would happen just
culturally or actually politically, like where we have a state
secede and they're no longer part of the Union. And
this is interesting because I learned recently in Mexico there
are states like Nuevo Leone who want to secede from
the Mexican Federal Republic.
Speaker 1: You have that in the US. There's talk now of
Canada Alberta. There's also you know that plan of North
American Union and integration, the Greenland stuff, the Panama stuff.
So you know, what do you mean when you talk
about balkanization and you know civil war as well, You've
got the US wanting to do airstrikes.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Basically, take the movie Cicario with Benicio del Toro and.
Speaker 3: Make it nonfiction. Great movie.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the film, honestly, it was very well made,
and I think that there was a sequel.
Speaker 3: I think I saw it was also.
Speaker 1: It was it was good to de so that was
good too. Yeah. But I mean, just all of these things,
this is a cauldron. It can create so much chaos
with what's you know, the fire that's already lit in
Mexico in the US and so what what you know
would you see.
Speaker 2: When it comes to organization, Well, I mean, I just
think it's inevitable. I think we're just going to have
to deal with the fact that we're going to have
to split, that it's going to get to the point
where you either split or you have violence. And even
if you split, you may have violence, you're you know,
there's a good chance you're going to have violence. At
this point, I don't think there's any there's there's escaping violence.
I don't think it's going to be this mass of
violence all over the country. But I think it's going
to be pockets, and it's probably going to be rural
over Subsurban. But the Balkanization, I think that it's already started.
I know a lot of people who have decided to
move to certain areas and to gather in certain areas.
Some of them did it organically. They didn't even realize
that there were other people who had been moving to
certain areas just to get away from certain you know,
to get away from certain situations that they have no
control over. And you know, I think that it's going
to be cultural. I think it's going to be it's
going to be cultural and racial. And it just seems
like that there's going to be that. That is it's
natural with what's happened. You know, you've had an open
war on white people preached for at least ten years now,
it's been longer than that, but I mean they've openly
said it, talked about it on the nightly on the
nightly news programs, the Sunday morning programs. You know that
white people need to be need to be handled, and
I think that there's only a matter of time. I
don't think all white people are going to be like, oh,
I'm taking this seriously, but I think enough will take
it seriously that they'll be like, Okay, we need to
collective us. We need to collective us for our own protection.
And yeah, I just don't I don't know how that's
avoided at this point. The Trump getting elected, I was
hoping that there were some things that he would do
a little more about tearing down the administrative state. And
maybe he still will, but I'm not I'm not hanging
my hat on it. I'm hoping that there are some
things that Powell's been doing at the FED, that Besson
is doing at the Treasury, that Jamie Diamond has been
I know that they're all working together and they're trying
to basically, and they've done a really good job of
destroying Europe. I mean, when you look at the euro
what just what just what you know private equity Powell
has done at the FED getting libor, you know, dismantled,
so that London doesn't control our interest Europe doesn't control
our interest rates anymore. And you know, now Chicago so
for controls our interest rates. I mean literally, you would
you would rent, you would take a loan out on
a car in Texas, and London would decline would be
the one who would declare, figure out what the interest
rate was. Well, I mean, how that's just globalization, and
Powell is done. Pal gets all the credit for dismantling
that you've also seen. Look at what look at the
price of the euro to the dollar. Look at the
British pounds of the dollar. When I was growing up,
the British pound, it seemed like was pegged a two
dollars to two dollars. Uh two of our dollars to
the things down to a buck and a quarter now
about twenty. I mean, this is basically Powell declaring war
on Europe, and Europe is panicking.
Speaker 3: Buy it.
Speaker 2: I mean, look look at how much they don't have gold.
They can't meet gold demands. Gold has all fled into
New York City, which is why you see gold up
at near thirty five hundred dollars an ouncer right now.
So there are things that I think that I was
hoping that Trump would do that could help just give
us some breathing room, give us four years so that
we could figure out a plan going forward. Because the
one thing that I know Trump is not going to
do and the people around him are not going to do,
is destroy the left. And if they don't destroy the left,
the left is going to get power again at some point.
And when they get power, they are going to be
mad ad and it is going to be like my
Time magazine back there, which signifies the beginning of the
Spanish Civil War. They are going to be out for
blood and I do not and I mean that literally,
they are going to look to spill blood when they
get power back. So when I look at everything Trump's doing,
all I can juge. I have two frames. I have
two things in my mind. One, do enough so that
we can make make more money, acquire more property in
the next four years, make it easy for us so
that we can set something up for the future. And otherwise,
I don't think we're going to have mass deportations. I
don't think we're I think that we're stuck with us
and we're going to have to make it work. The
problem is is we're not going to be able to
make it work on a grand scale because the left
will get power again. And when the left gets power,
where again they are going to seek to destroy what's
left of white America.
Speaker 3: I had on recently Pastor Truck of Baldwin who mentioned
this idea. He's great, he's great. I've had him on
the show. He's a good man. Yeah, yeah, he's he's cool.
And he.
Speaker 1: Put the thought out that Vance JD. Vance might take
the helm in twenty twenty eight. Today I saw Casio
Cortes putting out all these videos going to these rallies,
and people saying that's a sign she might run. I mean,
while you know, Pete Hegseth comes out today yesterday talking
about how we're done with the woke stuff at the
Department of Defense, and so you don't think, and I'd
agree with you that you know, things haven't been dealt with,
they're still there. You know, if you peel back the
surface level, so you know, you don't think we've reached
peq wocism, you think all that stuff is is still there.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if we do get rid of woll
Givesm in the next four years, or if JD. Vance
is in for another eight years. One thing that I
know about human beings, and especially about anglos in North
America Northern Europeans, if they get a good four years
where there's a where there's a lot of prosperity, they
have a habit of voting in the wrong direction. I mean,
look at Sweden. Sweden was up until what nineteen fifty two,
they had a purely free market or one of the
richest countries in the world. And then they decided, well,
we need we have an ethno state, and we have
people here who don't have as we have a class
that doesn't have as much as everyone else. Well we
need a gigantic welfare state now. And what has that
done to them? I mean it just they did pretty
good for a while, but eventually that's going to come
crashing down upon itself. And the main reason it came
crashing down upon itself is because they got flooded with
immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. I mean, when
you have a country of what nine million people and
you get a million people who are antithetical to your
way of life, well, then the women Swedish women in
the span of five years redefine what rape is so
I don't trust the average voter to be like, oh, so,
we've had four great years of this and if there's
no if there's no obvious person who's going to carry
it on but is going to take it further, it's
just a matter of time before the regime that we've
had in power for the last one hundred hundred and
twenty five years gets back into power. Woke means nothing
to me. Woke is just one of the costumes they wear.
They are anti civilizational, They want to destroy civilization. They
want to rule the ashes. They have no problem ruling
the ashes of civilization. Why would I trust them? Why
would I trust anyone other than myself and trust people
that I know that I have a history of being
able to rely upon. Never met Donald Trump, never met
Jade Events, never met RFK, never met Pete had except
don't know what they actually believe. I saw in a
signal chat they were like celebrating dropping an apartment building
full of people just to get one guy who they
didn't get. And they're all supposed to be Christians. Okay, well,
I'm sorry, I don't trust you. You're not acting very Christian.
As a matter of fact, Islam that you're constantly complaining
about seems to be a little more civilized than that.
I mean, I've seen Israel drop apartment buildings in Lebanon
just so they could find they could get one person,
and they killed numerous people. And then when Iran retaliated
and sent bombs into Israel, sent you know, rockets into
Israel that landed where do they land at? Military targets?
They didn't bomb civilians. Even though Unit eighty two hundred
of the Massad is right in the middle of a
residential neighborhood in Tel Aviv. That you realize that that
Massad uses tel Aviv residential neighborhood as human shields, right?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I thought only I thought only Muslims did that. Oh okay.
Now I don't trust these people. I don't trust them
to bring us out of anything. These are not elites.
These are not historic elites. These people don't know what
nob less oblieg is. So why would I trust them?
Why would I? Why would I think that it is
in there? They would think it would be in our
best interest to destroy our enemy. They haven't been destroying
our enemy. Our enemy is not outside the border. The
more crucial enemy is inside the border right now. That's
why the Founders talked about enemies foreign and domestic. The
domestic enemies are much more dangerous than any foreign enemy
right now, and they're not doing anything to destroy them.
As a matter of fact, they're letting judges stop things
that they want to do. Judges that weren't even born
in the United States, which is I think. I read
the DC appointed judges, the DC judges, Circuit court judges,
sixty percent weren't born in the United States. I mean
that says something about our government, but it also says
something about them. When my ancestors came here, I guarantee you,
if they would have been offered a judge ship, they'd
have been like, no, why would I I'm not qualified
to do that. I have no ties to you. People
have no I'm here to become one of you. I'm
not one of you. Yet, why are you going to
let me stand in judgment of you? So that tells
you that these sixty percent of judges are evil people
who just want to tell other people what to do
and to rule over other people. How are we not
headed towards violent once? And I'm not calling for it.
I will never fire the first shot. I will never
be the one. I don't believe it's worth it. I
don't believe it would do anything. I think all it
would do was get would get people killed. They don't
think that way. They're going to fire the first shot.
They're going to be they're going to drop the first
bomb from the from the drone.
Speaker 1: And you know, you mentioned Sweden, and I just had
this thought of this. I want to get just your
further definition when it comes to the you know, this
force that we're discussing. But you know, I know folks
in Sweden you hear about as you mentioned, migrants and
the thing, the crazy stuff that goes on there, the
stabbing is rapes, and some of the folks, I know
they're programmed by this liberal mind. And I'm reading in
the papers like all this crazy stuff is going on
and they live in Sweden and they're like, oh, I
see any of that. And then I had on Jacob Nortngard,
who was just a Swedish great Swedish researcher on globalism,
and you know, you say, yeah, we just had these attacks,
and so it's kind of like, well, which one is it?
You know, And it's the same thing you're here in
Mexico would be like me in Mexico saying oh, everything's fine,
you know, it's all right.
Speaker 3: It's like no.
Speaker 1: I mean there's like cartels chopping off heads, dissolving bodies
and acid. You go to the vacation on Haaka, you
get the nine people got dismembered and they say it
was the local municipal police.
Speaker 3: You know, kidnapping them.
Speaker 1: And so it's like, yeah, Mexico's a great place, but
I'm not going to have a stock com syndrome and
say this is not happening. You know, it's it's it's
it's it's it's insane. And how would you just further
describe this this dark force? Because you know the left,
I tend to think it's more now that like liberal globalism.
And you know what they represent is you said, I
call net zero, you know, absolute death zero.
Speaker 3: You know the the trans stuff.
Speaker 1: It's all a total inversion, anti human you know the
type of economy they want, it's a death economy. Would
you sort of agree with that? Would you also call
them liberal globalist? I mean what would you call them?
Speaker 2: Well, if you want globalism, if you want everybody to
be the same, thing. You have to stop people from
living historically right, People who want to live, who want
to talk about their ancestors, who want to worship, who
not want to worship, but want to honor their ancestors
and live as they lived. This is that's their enemy.
That's what they've been destroying for the last hundred years
since World War Two. That's what World War two was
all about. It was to destroy historic nations of Europe
that live that way because you're not going to have globalism.
You're not going to you're not going to have, you know, liberalism.
Another good book, a good book on liberalism is a
rise Ard Lagut goes the Demon and Democracy, where he
talks about how liberalism and communism are just kissing cousins.
Liberalism and Marxism are just kissing cousins because it's like
you're constantly working towards this perfection that you never achieve.
So instead of sitting back and letting people decide what's
best for them and how best they can live historically,
what you're doing is you're socially engineering their environment so
that they're constantly Your goals are their goals, Your needs
are their needs. What's important to you is what you
want to make important to them. So if wealth, if
somebody isn't interested in wealth, well, if somebody isn't interested
in higher education, well we got to push them towards
higher education. If somebody isn't interested in I don't know,
being incredibly literate.
Speaker 3: I mean you could just read people like.
Speaker 2: The propaganda, the early propagand that's the Walter lippmanns and
oh god, I can't I can't remember his name now,
it's the one who wrote propaganda Brene's. Yeah, well what
do they say, Oh, yeah, we need a literate society.
We need them just literate enough so that we can
propagandize them so that we can tell them what's a belief?
Speaker 3: If you.
Speaker 2: If that's the if you're raising up of people who
are completely deracinated from where they came from, where their
family came from, who they are. If you have some
a family that's lived on the same plot of land
for a couple hundred years and there's a family cemetery there,
and you're going to do your you know, those people
are a danger to you because they don't need you,
and they're not buying into your globalist your globalist vision.
So what do you do do you basically get into
the schools and teach their kids that what's really important
is that you move closer to the city. You want
to live in a really good zip code. So when
it comes time and your parents die, instead of you know,
living on that land and passing it to your kids,
sell the land. You're going to make a fortune. It's
paid off one hundred years ago. And if somebody pays you,
you know, a couple, you know, ten extra thousand dollars
to remove this, remove the cemetery stones. Who cares about
your history? That's that's what these people are about. They're
about destroying who you are. It's not like economics, it's
not about politics. It's about destroying who you are, where
you come from, who your family was, who your descendants was,
where you who you I mean literally who you are,
the essence of your being. They've been destroying that for
one hundred years, over one hundred years, and that is
what the goal is is. That is what that is
why you put a million savages in Sweben so they
forget who they are, so they change their culture, so
they change their beliefs, and you tell them, if you
don't take these people you're you're evil. You know you
you're there's something wrong with you. You can't be a
part of this global you know, this club that we're
in and you know, and yeah, sure where I live
if there's a shooting around here. There was a shooting
I think like a month ago or something like that.
It was downtown. And when I say downtown, I'm talking
about a town of twenty four hundred people. So it
was downtown. Everyone was talking about it. I hadn't been
a shooting in over two years. It was family of
it was of course something domestic everything. But you know,
so I don't see what happens in Chicago. I don't
see what happens in Cambden, New Jersey. I don't see
you know, people stepping over here, stepping in human feces
in San Francisco. But I know how that affects the country.
I know how that affects everything that we do. I
know how eventually everyone's going to have an attitude of despair.
I mean, I think most of the most of what
we see on social media and everything now is just demoralization.
That's why we see so much negative stuff. They just
want us to be demoralized. I mean, sure, I look
at it and everything and I try not to deal
with it. But it's my job. My job is to
tell people exactly what's wrong and why you why. If
you're in a very small town, you need to be
careful who you hire as a librarian because you don't
know what books are going to end up in your library.
It happened here. You don't know who you're hiring a
city because when you go to get a permit to
meet at the city park and the person there is
telling it and you're going to have like a prayer,
You're going to have a bunch of churches come together
and you're going to have like a prayer service. You
have somebody at city hall that has just hired a
transplant from the north who is like, well, you can't
do that. There's a separation of church and state. And
you're like, fuck you, we can't do that. We're going
to do it anyway. I mean that that's what's happening.
That's what people. These people want to control you and
want to engineer everything out of you that needs anything.
And that's that's what the last one hundred years, that's
what has happened since World War Two, even before then,
but certainly since World War Two, because why would you
want to have strong families, why would you want to
have strong churches. Everybody might become a Nazi, So we
need to you know, there was a book that was
put out called The Authoritarian Personality, and what they said
in that book was, well, if we want to keep
people from becoming Nazis again, we have to destroy the family,
we have to destroy the churches, we have to we
have to introduce the concept of arrows to people, which
is just basically porn and sensuality. That's what they've been doing.
And people would say, oh, well, that was just a book,
and they wrote it. Everything in there came true, right.
I mean, it was literally one of the biggest committees
in the country commission that book, and everything in that
book they did. That's the war. The war isn't economics.
The war isn't you know, trade. The war is who
we are as a people. If we know who we
are as a people and we embrace that, economics will
fall into place, trade will fall into place. But if
we're going to be destroyed, if who we are is
going to be destroyed, those things are meaningless. They don't
they literally don't mean anything if you don't know who
you are.
Speaker 1: For me, a lot of what you're describing as again,
it's I think what they're trying to do. It's this
process of globalization and moving from the smaller state, structured
nation state to this you know, Babylonian Tower of Babbel.
Speaker 3: Two point zero multicultural world government.
Speaker 1: And in order to do that, they've got to mix
us up like in a blender to create this, you know,
globalized because if you have a political world system and
economic you need also one single culture and religion. I
talk about that a lot on the podcast, but yeah,
I think that's what's going on. You know, even here
in Mexico, migrants pass through Mexico and I've witnessed, you know,
and these are migrants that speak Spanish. They're Latinos, you know,
Guatemala down south, and even Mexicans are not happy with
Latino you know, migrants hanging around and you know, some
are harmless. I've had some of them threatened to kill
my father in law on the streets. You know, we
were loading stuff into our car. And this is young,
you know, thirty something year old. He's living on this.
I don't know what and his girlfriend or something pushing
their cards and he's tells in front of me and
my father in law, what if I just kill you,
old man and take your stop. I look at him
and he, you know, he slowly goes away. It's just
kind of like, you know, it's just a common thing
with with whatever country you live in, to have basic
law in order. And I wanted to go back to
the Trump administration. As you mentioned, there's obviously disappointment. You
have all the things that were said during the campaign,
like they're going to deconstruct agencies and things like this,
and you know, I read the headline last week cash Ptel,
you know, FBI, We're going to rebuild trust.
Speaker 3: In the FBI. Like what you know?
Speaker 1: Christi Noemos South Dakota head of DHS, the same DHS
that's banned me from PayPal, and she's like, don't delay
get your real ID. I'm like, you know, all of
the you know what, we had one rhetoric during the campaign,
and then once these people are coming into power, it's
like RFK, right, he's got the MMR vaccine thing. You know,
he's there's I think I saw a video clip of
him saying he'd never injected kids with MMR vaccine, And
now he's like saying, oh, that's the.
Speaker 3: Way to go. What's going on?
Speaker 1: And you know, thoughts on that, but also the technocratic
element because you've got you know, I fear a bit
of this technocracy leading to dystopia. So what are your
thoughts on that? Elon Musk and other sort of stuff.
I mean, it's all just a path to the same place.
It's all just a path to.
Speaker 2: People who are just robots, people who are just economic units,
people who are just walking annuities for banks, for you know,
lending institutions.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, the the best way you fight this, and a
lot of people don't want to hear this, especially people
of a conservative and libertarian bent, is the best way
to fight this is to get your friends in charge,
to get people that you you know, I've always said,
you know, it's like, I mean, you know, libertarians wont
a libertarian world, then they should get elected and just
by fiat declare start tearing things apart and tearing it
down and threaten people to kill you, because that's what
they'll try and do. They'll try and they'll try and
kill you. But I mean, at this point, you're when
you look at those things, when you look at like
chips in the head, things like that, I have a
tendency to believe that those they are just distractions away
from the other the very real things that they're doing,
which is, you know, just drawing the money supply, running
dead up to running debt, importing you know, Infinity Indians
into the country, importing infinity Central Americans and South Americans
into the country, and letting criminals run loose so that
they can.
Speaker 3: You know, if you.
Speaker 2: Now, this isn't every this isn't my area, but you know,
if a criminal breaks into your house or if it
comes onto your property and you shoot them, you know,
you go to jail. You're not allowed to. You know,
San Francis is a narco tyranny where you allow the
worst elements of society, like you know they did in
San Francisco, where if you stole up to nine hundred
dollars worth of stuff, you wouldn't go to jail.
Speaker 3: And they knew how to do that.
Speaker 2: And all that does is demoralized. All that does is destroy,
It destroys people's businesses. They don't care, you know, and
most of those businesses are white owned I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: They just are.
Speaker 2: Every once in a while, a minority owned business will
get and well that they're just in the way. They're
looking to destroy who we are. They're looking to destroy
our ability to live. And we can talk about AI,
we can talk about you know, technocracy, we can talk
about all this stuff. I've been talking about this for
I mean, you know, Anthony Sutton and you know Patrick
what the hell is his name?
Speaker 3: I can't his name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrick White. They've been talking about that. They've been
writing about this, books about books about this, Whitney Webb,
oh teal because you know, you can use it. What
about the fact that they're just destroying us. What about
the fact that they're destroying who we are? You know,
I mean it almost seems like it's a smoke screen
for us to worry about something in the future while
we're being destroyed in an even worse way right now. Sure.
I mean, no one wants to live in a panopticon,
and that's the threat. The threat is, oh, you're going
to live in this panopticon. Does it really matter if
you're nobody, if you're if you have no family, if
you have no sense of your family, if you're not
teaching your kids who their grandparents were and who their
great grandparents were. Does any of this matter? It all
just seems to me to be a distraction. And right now,
all I care about is getting that back, getting that
sense of history back, and helping people other people to
you know, realize that helping other people to know, you know,
I live in an area where there are you know,
I know a couple families. Their families have been here
for one hundred and fifty two hundred years. They know
where their families are, they know where their relatives are buried.
They know what they've owned, they know who bought it,
who who was the one who bought this piece of land.
They know who started this business that they took over,
that their great great grandfather. That's all that matters. That's
all that matters in this life is knowing who you
are and knowing where you came from and being a
human being, and you know, being being a Christian. And
that's the threat. It's not even the threat. That's what
they've taken away from us. They've just continued and they
continue to take away from us. They continue to strip
it away. And while we're worrying about this Panopticon over here,
and we're worried about this thing over here. More and
more of it's just being stripped away. And really, if
you choose not to participate in that, you can. It's
just going to be a choice. It's just going to
be planning. It's just going to be making a decision
that you're not going to buy into this anymore and
that you're going to go in another direction. There are
places this state does not have. They don't even have
the money anymore, too, Like the DEEA doesn't have the
money anymore to like try to invade every to spent
weed dispensary in Los Angeles in a year. They couldn't
do that. They don't have that kind of funding. Every
once in a while, they'll make an example out of somebody.
Merrick Garland in the in the in the Biden administration
did a really good job of that, of putting of
targeting Catholics anytime he could praying at abortion clinics, throwing women,
old women in jail for eight years because they were
praying at an abortion clinic. Well, that's I'm glad that
that woman is out. I'm glad that she's been pardoned
and everything but that's just to get you scared. That's
not going to happen to most people. Most people, if
they know what they're doing, can get together with other
like minded people and make plans and do things that
mitigates the harm in the future that mitigate that mitigates this,
you know, I mean, I don't want to give up
the cities. I grew up in a city. I grew
up in New York City. I mean, I still I
would still love to go to New York City. I
don't really go there anymore because it's just it's sort
of frustrating and it's sort of demoralizing. But you know,
I mean, I don't think for right now, cities are
the greatest place to be. If people want to stay
in cities and fight for them, good luck. I mean,
I'll I'll do as much as I can to help
you in any way I can. But you know, I
just I think for what they're threatening, if it's at
all real, then you know they're they're You should be
much more worried about what's already been taken from you,
what's continually taken from you, and what you've lost in
getting back what you've lost. Mentally, spiritually, you know, metaphysically,
then worried about what could possibly happen. Sure, you're going
to think about things that could possibly happen, that could
possibly be could possibly hurt you in the future. But
you know, there was a time when people came together
and they formed alliances to mitigate this, to make sure
it didn't happen, And that's what should be happening now.
But people don't want to do that. They're more they've
been trained to think, if I just get the right
person elected in Washington, d C. Everything's going to be okay.
Oh what happens when again, say you're happy with who's
in there now? What happens when somebody isn't and somebody
gets elected again who isn't It doesn't have your best
interest or you don't like at least you know, where
are you at at that point? The more important question
is when that person gets elected in the future, who
is going to come to seek to destroy you even
more or build that panopticon or all these things that
so many people are you know, promoting. Where are you
going to be at? Where are you going to be
at mentally, where you're going to be at spiritually, Where
you're going to be at financially. Where are you going
to be at in a collective or are you going
to be with a collective that understands what's coming, understands
the issues, understands the historical problem, or are.
Speaker 3: You going to be alone?
Speaker 2: And you know, hey, I made a whole bunch of money,
and I live in the suburbs and oh, wait a minute,
here comes, here comes the here, here comes something that's
ten times worse than twenty twenty, the summer of twenty twenty,
and oh, it's coming in my neighborhood. Oh and if
I try to defend myself, I'll go to jail. I
these are the things, These are the things to think about.
Economics is a distraction, and that's one of the reasons
why I'm not a libertarian anymore. Economics is a distraction.
Economics is just basically it's like scientology for you know,
one hundred and twenty IQ White.
Speaker 1: Guys, I was listening to your one of yours half
hour rant on libertarianism, and I found it. I'm using,
and I do you know you have a point. I
talk often about technocracy, which is a distant threat, although
I believe it. You know, it's already encroaching and affecting
my life and stuff. You know, I couldn't renew my
debit card here in Mexico because I don't have my
Mexican vote idea, which is the digital idea for Mexico.
So it's beginning to seep in. But what you say,
you know, I haven't really touched on that because I
spend a lot of time in technocracy and I've been
lamenting that for decades now. And you know, just Vinnie Sullivan.
I found his account on Telegram, who's on ax. He's
an Englishman, really good stuff, and he just posted a
photo of old Grandpa with his grandson, and he says,
one point. An indicator of how quickly things have changed
compared to even when I was little, is that some
of today's grandparents now believe that they're babysitting their grandchildren
as opposed to spending the much needed time together that
both parties once cherished. And I've seen that, you know,
and I just you know, this is what the digital
age has done in globalization. When I was a kid,
everyone's on the streets. And now I go back to
North Chicago where I grew up, to CROI show where
I grew up was empty. It's all empty. Everything everyone's
been atomized. You're seeing that. You know, Mexico is still
less worse in the sense that there's still that family
connection and extended family that that they do get together
more often than the Americans. But even that, you know,
I'm seeing them hit hit those chinks in the armor,
and so yeah, I think, you know, that's a strong point,
and I'm tied. That's why I always want to go
back to Even though I was born in the US,
I've always identified it's Croat, that's my name, that's my blood,
and you know, in the future, i'd want to go
back there. And for the time being though, I've assimilated
in Mexico, became a citizen, speak the language, and I've integrated.
And I think that's what people if you end up
in a foreign country, that's what you should do.
Speaker 3: As you were alluding to.
Speaker 1: Earlier, I do want to ask, I do want to
get your opinion on foreign policy, the world, what's going
on in the world. But before that, just any thought
on the podcasting space, alternative media. There's all all sorts
of it's called doug ree going on there. Just what's
your sort of thoughts when it comes to the podcast space.
Speaker 2: Honestly, most of what I listened to are people I know,
you know, people that I've spent time with. I listened
to their podcasts. There are a couple of podcasts that
I listened to who are like former intelligence people who
keep eyes on like leftist radical groups things like that.
You know, some foreign policy, some foreign policy as well.
Speaker 3: But you know, for the.
Speaker 2: Most part, I I try to avoid a lot of
podcasts because, yeah, I don't know who's financing them. I
don't know who, you know, what what they're putting out.
I mean, there are Twitter accounts where you know, it's
come out that they're they're financed by certain groups, there
are certain individuals, and that if you look at who
they're being financed by and you look at what they're promoting, well,
I mean, how how are they going to promote something different?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I Mean the only like real place I've ever heard
where you could have your own opinion was like RT.
It was like people who actually got hired by RT
and they're like, yeah, we don't care. You can talk
about you know, you can you can crap all over
all over Russia and foreign policy and putin all you want.
That seems to be one of the only places that
was legit. I mean, obviously they are also you know,
Russian based and everything, and you have to be able
to there is going to be some propaganda propaganda there
you're gonna have to sift through. But you're gonna have
to do that everywhere. I mean, there are very like
I said, I pretty much trust the people that I
know that I've like like met in real life and
spent time with, even if I disagree with them. There
are people's podcasts I listen to that I disagree with,
but I know them, you know, and it's like and
I want to hear because every once in a while
that make a good point, or I want to hear
where they're coming from. I want to hear what the
what a different what what somebody who disagrees with me
is saying. Maybe I can make my argument, maybe that
can help me hone my argument a little better. But
for the most part, the alternative media and everything, I mean,
once pretty much once you start, once you give it
a name, it's done. I think that, you know, Johnny
Rotten said, the first time someone said let's start a
punk band, that punk rock was dead because you know,
then you're giving it a name. And he was pretty
much right. So you know, there's the alternative, Like the
right wing alternative media is not organic anymore. I mean
some I mean, you know, places like The Blaze, you know,
who are very nice and employ my friend Orren McIntyre.
I mean they who how do they have so much money?
The Daily Wire was financed by the Wilkes brothers, who
are billionaire like oil people or something. I mean, they're billionaires, so,
and they're also like hyper zionists, so it's like, I mean,
once you start digging in, it's like, okay, well I
see why certain people have have have the opinion as
they do. I try to find people who just are
really you know. I mean I know that this is
like almost cliche now, you know, people who are just
asking questions, but yeah, I mean that's what I do
is sometimes I'm just asking questions. I want to know why.
I want to know why people think this. I want
to know why people are pushing this. I want to
know why this exists. I want to know why people,
you know, or so many people are so eager to
back Israel and no matter what it does.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: I want to know why, and you know, and I'm
not going to accept the answer because there are greatest
ally because I've heard that from too many people, and
if people, and if I just hear that from over
and over again, that sounds like something that is just
is just a troupe that somebody picked up. I want
to know why, you know. And then Thomas Massey goes
on Tucker Carlson and says, well, everyone in Congress has
an apac handler. So, oh well, that gives me a
better idea of why, you know, this government and so
many people. And then when you study you know, like
dispensational theology, you have an idea of why so many
evangelicals support Israel unconditionally, even though even they could be
murdering fellow Christians and they don't care and they still
support them. So, you know, I want to know why.
And I like people who ask the question why, or
delve into philosophy or delve into history. I would rather
listen to somebody, you know, question the question the motives
of the American reveel, then listen to somebody talk about how, oh, well,
you know, they were the taxes were raised two percent,
so they didn't like, No, No, that's too easy. That's
too easy. Give me something different. Tie it to aliens,
tie it to space aliens. I'll listen to that before
I'll listen to well, they raised the taxes two percent
and then we dumped the we dumped the tea in
the harbor. I don't want to hear that. I don't care. Yeah,
I'd rather hear something way more interesting, like you know, like, oh,
well maybe the foundings. Maybe a lot of those people
who rose up were acting a little more like Antifa
than they were like like actual freedom fighters. I've heard
that before, and I was like, that's well, that's that's
that's a whole lot more interesting than two percent tax
was raised and you know and the Boston massacre and yeah,
I mean so that That's why the podcasting sphere to
me is just like I do what I do. If
people want to listen to it, they can listen to it.
If they don't want to listen to it, and they're
mad at me for things that I say, I can't, Okay,
don't listen. I'm not going to beg you to listen,
because if somebody's begging you to listen, I mean, what's
their motives. My motivation is I'm going to put something
out there, something that I think is interesting myself. If
you want to come along for the ride, come along
for the red. I want to get just that further thought.
I was gonna mention you mentioned ARTI I saw someone
and Artie Producer just followed me, so maybe they want
me to come art. And you know, there's that big
account Canna CoA or however it's pronounced massive x account
and I think I subscribe to their substack and they
don't almost didn't publish anything until today, out of the blue,
I got a email from kannacoa substack saying, by my
accelerator course and how to you know, I'm going to,
you know, prove how you can increase your following and
everything at ACT.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that there's no way because you look
at the people that are aligned. It's like that mainstream
alternative media section and many of us, you know, I
get people who message me who have different accounts, and
I'm shadow banded and I'm suppressed. I'm like, what's the
point of even talking? We all are. It's kind of
like tell me something I don't know, and there's no
point in wallowing in it. I'm just kind of like
I told someone this yesterday, where all the soldiers and
just fire away, just fire away with your mortar. We're
all suppressed and shadow band. There's no use talking about it.
That's just how the way it is. But you know,
there's no way I think, you know, Kennakoa has probably
got some links to the system that allows them.
Speaker 3: To get so big.
Speaker 1: But for those of us that are in a certain
that ask too many questions, we're never going.
Speaker 3: To get X.
Speaker 2: X is nice for you know, getting news, finding news,
interacting with people. I mean, I can't stand X. I
mean I use it basically to do some promotion things
like that. But you know, also today, just today, I
was going back and forth with Nick Land. That wouldn't
happen if it wasn't for X, you know. So you know,
having been a little conversation about with Nick Land, who
lives in China, you know, of all places. So it's
like I'm literally having a conversation with one of the
you know, one of the top philosophers in the last
twenty five years on on X and and you know,
and he lives in China. That so I mean, once
in a while X comes true for me, So yeah,
I have a good.
Speaker 3: Day in X. You know, you know, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: These are all useful tools, you know, for Telegram, X,
substack whatever you and let you know, I get I
was able to DM Lutwak, which there was no other
way to contact him, and I got a response and
get him on the He gives me his email and
I get on. I get him on the podcast and
so yeah, and I get my I use it for
news uh source to compile news for my week, the
substack analysis and so stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But you know, my point was that, yeah, it's it's it's.
Speaker 1: Tough, and I did also want to and what I
don't like just on your point of people, if they
don't like what you're doing, just leave. Like there's this
lady who's pestering me now on substack and I had
to mute her. I'm like, she continues to ad hominum
and selt me, and I'm like, like, really, like just unsubscribe,
Like really, I got better things to do than argue
with something online. I got you, I got kids to
hang out, rais and podcasts to do, and it's just
kind of like if you don't like geopolitics, empire unsubscribed.
Speaker 3: Please just leave me alone, stop pestering me. And I
don't like people.
Speaker 2: Think that like people people think that like we like
we're begging them. I mean, I had a guy who
subscribed to my substack and paid a year in advance,
you know, as a subscription, and like three or four
months in he didn't like the fact that, you know,
I was hyperbolically making fun of boomers, and I refunded
him everything. I didn't reef, I didn't pro rate him.
I refunded him the whole year subscription and I blocked
him just so you don't think it's about the money.
It's like, I'm not going to have you in my
comments just being in being a jerk, you know. I mean, there,
I'm gonna I'll put up you know, if you're going
to subscribe, if you're going to support me, I'll put
up with you.
Speaker 3: I'll put up with a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to put up with you just like
hammering the comments and everything is everything is negative. And
you know, one of the things I don't really like
and is if I have a guest, you know, when
I have a guest on if you insult the guest
that guest took time out of their day to come
on my show. And even if I disagree with everything
they say, and even if you disagree with everything they say,
that does not give you the right, no matter how
much you're subscribing for, to just like openly insult this person.
It could be a friend of mine I have, believe
it or not, I have friends that I don't agree with.
I'm friends with people who we disagree on more than
we agree on, and I will choose them over a
stranger every single day because we've sat down and we've
broken bread together, and I know that this person would,
you know, drive at three o'clock in the morning to
come help me if I was broken down somewhere.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the eight dollars a month, and it
means a lot. I'm not making I'm not minimizing that
at all. But if you think that you're just going
to like rip on people who like take time out
of their day to come and talk because as you
disagree with them, and that you're you can do it
anonymously on the internet. Sorry, I mean I I'd rather
I'd rather not have the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just your further thought. You know, sometimes people assume,
you know, they classify me and they get angry with me.
Oh you're you're a journalist, so why didn't you ask
that question? I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not When
did I say I was a journalist?
Speaker 2: Well why don't you call me? If you're going to
call me a journalist, you may as well call me
a child molester, because I consider those to be the
being the same class of people.
Speaker 1: You know, prostitutes is something says this, But it's like,
I'm a podcast like I was a teacher. I just
want to talk to interesting people. Uh so I'm a
podcaster at most, I just basically record conversations with people.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a journalist, what you know. And then people
sort of assume, you know, they wanted me to be
their male man. They'll say, hey, go to this, you know,
renowned figure and all the media send them this right this.
I'm like, dude, and I kind of I think the
point you said earlier. I don't like being affiliated with anyone.
I'm just a dude with the mic on my own,
doing my thing, and and you know, don't ask me
to be your mailman or I'm not on your team.
Speaker 3: People think you're on their team here since we're complaining.
Here's my favorite.
Speaker 2: Hey, can you ask X? Can you ask this person
to unblock me? On Twitter? Are we in fu?
Speaker 3: Are we? Are we girls in high school? What the
fuck is that? Literally? What the fuck is that? Oh?
Speaker 2: Jody blocked me on Twitter?
Speaker 3: Can you ask him? Why? Can you ask her? Why?
Speaker 1: I mean, if someone it's happened to me, if someone
blocked me, I'm like, I laugh at it. Like Lisa Piece,
she's some leftist JFK researcher and i'd't even sent her
interview requests previously. She blocked me because she did, like
an interview a guest that I had. I'm like, okay, cool, Lisa.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 1: But and then people that ask you for the you know,
you post some video or something and they ask you
can use the source, and they're like, there's memes for this,
Like you've got to google at your finger. You can
literally find it yourself, like I have guests to find
and podcast to edit to yourself. But just one more
point on this before going to the foreign policy. This disagreement.
I don't know how much you know this is what
you just said. You know, I had on Brit Gilette,
who's an evangelical Zionist. There's a portion of his stuff
that I agree with, a portion that I don't. I
have on then another flavor like Chuck Baldwin, who speaks
against Zionism. There's a lot I agree with him on.
And then what I don't. I had on Lutwalk who's Zionist,
but he's fascinating, He's got an incredible you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, and so like.
Speaker 1: But there's people that can't handle what you're talking about,
this disagreement, and they have this very infantile reaction and
then they assume that I agree with every single guest.
That's why I bring them on. And it's like you
just thought on that for I don't know if you
had the same experience, But lately people are losing their
minds because I just happened to have conversations with some people.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I really think this goes towards the splintering,
the how people are becoming more people are becoming more
partisan on their beliefs. You know, it's like I will
have somebody on who you know, I will go to,
like my subscriber chat and they'll be like, well that,
you know, I really don't like that person, but you
know I like Pete, so you know I'm going to
keep subscribing.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, well who are you?
Speaker 2: Who was that post for? That post was for yourself?
It made you feel better? Okay, great?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I have Darryl, Like you know, I've had
Daryl and Daryl Cooper. You know, I think he does
really well in researching and reading books that other people
don't read and then putting together good podcast. But you know,
he also has like opinions, he has social opinions that
a lot of right wingers don't agree with. And I'll
be like, well, you know, I would love to listen
to that, but I can't listen to Daryl Cooper. Okay,
so who's that comment for? I mean, I literally think
people are just putting comments out there. I mean it
really is a feminine kind of energy where it's like
I need to these people need to hear my opinion.
Speaker 3: It's like start a podcast.
Speaker 2: I mean I've told people that they're like, I can't
believe you had that person on. I can't believe you
had that person on, and you didn't have somebody there
to counter their you know, to counter their message. Start
your own podcast. Okay, I'm going to do things the
way I've always done it, the way I want this
is my.
Speaker 3: I treat this like in my kingdom. I'm the king
of this.
Speaker 2: I do it however I want, I have on whoever
I want, I talk about whoever I want. Audience capture.
I do not want audience capture at all. I don't
want to succumb to that. I've seen way too many
podcasters succumb to audience capture. No, if you like it
and you support me, God bless love you. But if
you're just gonna whine and it's like stop, you know,
don't you don't have to you don't have to support
I mean, it's it really is a sign of the times.
And it's also it's the anonymity knowing that they'll never
meet me, and you know, ninety five percent of the
comments that are made on social media they would people
would never say to another person's face. And and I
also think it's the you know, the main character syndrome.
It's like, well, you know, I'm I'm watching this show,
I'm making this show popular I'm part of the reason
why this show is popular. So I get to say,
you don't sorry, I mean, I just I don't know
what to say. I mean, whenever I meet like a listener,
ninety nine point nine percent of the time, they're the
I mean, awesome spend. We can have a meal together,
we can have a drink together, we can have a
smoke together. It'd be great, We'll have a great time.
But it's like, why do you have to act like
that online? You know, It's like I do that to
my enemies. So I'm rude. I will be rude to
my enemies online, people that I consider to be my enemies.
You know, I'm I'm a certain way, I have certain beliefs,
and really, if you are the opposite of me, you're
my enemy. That's the way. I'm sorry, that's the way
this world has gotten. You know, to go back to
some of these things we're talking about, there are only
globalists and anti globalists.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: It's no Republicans, no Democrats, no libertarians. You're a globalist
or you're an anti globalist. If you're a globalist, you're
my enemy. I will treat you. I will talk, I
will say, but I will say that to their face too.
If you're treating if you're coming at me and you
and you're being rude, and you're like, well, I'm a listener.
I'm assuming you're hate listening because I'm not. If I'm
rude to my friends, they know that it's a joke
that we're you know, we're being rude to joke around
and just be dudes or something like that. But I
just don't get this whole thing about how you know,
it's like, oh, you know because I because I'm a listener,
I get to I get to say whatever I want
and shit on Pete's friends and everything like that. Okay, well,
so maybe that's why you're.
Speaker 1: Blocked getting a little bit about you know, I wasn't
planned planning this, but we uh, it's good to err our.
Speaker 3: You know. My grievance is your agreements.
Speaker 1: Is that behind the scenes of the podcasting space, and
and you know, and like you said, I think it's
only in my I rate minority, and the majority of
you know, my listeners are love what I'm doing, uh,
and they get it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: If I assume if you're going to support financially Peter myself,
it's like you've listened to geopolitics Vampire. You get what
I'm doing, and then that's why you support me. If
you don't get it, don't support me and the thought police.
You know, someone on the YouTube comment I put up loutwalk,
like you interviewed loot walk. You interviewed that guy. It's why, well,
let's learn from these people. And I often this is
the thing that what I don't understand, just wasting time
on this negative negativity and hating like I will usually
the only comments I make online on whatever social platform
is egging people off, like people that I like. I'm like,
oh that was awesome, and I almost never like. For me,
it's a waste of time to go to someone's channel
that I hate and then start saying how much they suck.
It's like, I'd rather be doing more, you know, positive stuff,
you know that I like doing, And you know, if
I don't like that, I just I don't even bother
with them, all right. I used the example of shah
Heed Bolson recently. You know, he's Middle Nation, He's he's
got this big channel he talks in geopolitics. I think
he's in the American converted to Islam. I'm not Muslim
that's opposed to my Christian worldview. But he says some
really fascinating He's got insights and analysis that makes you think.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple of videos, there's a couple of
videos that I really enjoyed what he had to say.
But for the most part I disagree with him.
Speaker 1: Right, But my point is that I'm able to like
listen and not be like, oh, sha Heed Bolshen, you know, oh,
you know, freaking out. But let me you know, as
I mentioned Islam and in the Middle East and just
your thoughts on foreign policy, there are the specter of
a third World War, you know, you Russia, Ukraine, what's
going on in the Middle East, the pivot to China.
I just what's sort of your two cents when it
comes to where we're at there.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm I hold the unorthodox opinion on
Ukraine that you know, Ukraine started this, but it wasn't
really Ukraine. It was what it was, you know, NATO,
It was Western Forces and NATO. You know, my friend's honest,
like say, NATO doesn't exist anymore. NATO is just an
excuse to mess with people that you don't like. And
you know, I mean, I know that they said that
they weren't going to bring NATO up to the Russian
border in the nineteen nineties, and that they have. And
I know about the coup in Maidan in twenty fourteen.
I know about them getting rid of a Julie, a
properly elected leader. I know about the the FDEU call
from Victoria Newland. I also know the history of Russia,
and I know that a lot of the people who
in the in our governm that push Russia hate are
Jewish and they have an ethnic animosity to Russia because
of some things that happened in Russia, you know, pale
of settlement kind of things. And I'm actually covering that
in a very long series on my channel right now,
where a lot of this is just propaganda and lies
and it's ahistorical and Socialisa wrote about this, and it's
so funny that so many people love to you love
to talk about the Glulag Archipelago to crap all over communism,
but when it comes to his book Two Hundred Years Together,
they don't want to read. They don't want to read
that because he actually gives you the history of what
happened there, and so there are a bunch of these
Ukrainian Jews whose families are Ukrainian Jews in the government,
like Victoria Neulan and you know, Robert Kagan, I know,
Robert Kagan is no longer in the government. Anthony Blincoln
and all these people who like their families were in
pale of settlement and they're like, oh, well, the Russians
treated us so bad, we need you know, and our
people took over and were you know, really headed up
the Soviets up until you know, a certain point. And
then in the fifties it was like, well, you know,
we don't have as much power over over the Soviet
Union anymore, so we're going to form the Neo cons
and we're going to be completely anti Russia. And then
in the nineties when the Soviet Union falls, that changes
and all these oligarchs go in there and they rape
the country and basically you know, drive down the the
the lifespan of the average average Russian male, and then
Putin comes in and goes, no, no, no, that's not
going to happen anymore. No, we're going to clean things
up and we're we're going to get you people out
of here. And ever since then they're trying to kill
Putin and they're trying to kill Russia. Sorry, it's an
ethnic this isn't. This isn't. This is ethnic animosity that
goes back to like like sixteen forty eight and sixteen
fifty two, when a Cossack named kemil Netsky crushed a
bunch of Jews who had decided that their Messiah was
coming back their proto Sabatians and they and kemal Netsky
put them down because they were murdering Poles and Russians.
Okay that I know that history. This is a lot
older than than the nineteen nineties. This goes back to
the fifteen nineties. You know, this is we're going back
five hundred years on these things. So that's what I
see happen in Ukraine. Hopefully, hopefully, you know, this can
come to an end. You know, we've heard things in
the last twenty four hours. It seemed hopeful. And I
know that Russia just dropped the bomb in ki Kiev
that I don't think it was hit anything residential from
what I understand, it was it was targeted. So we'll
see what happens with that Israel Gaza. I mean, come on,
this is this is eighty years, you know, and people
want to go, oh, this is a three thousand year.
Speaker 3: No, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 2: They decided that they were going to Zionism pops up
in Russia in the eighteen fifties, and you know, in
the mid eighteen hundreds, and they're talking about how they
need a homeland, and they're like, oh, we need to
go back to Oh but there's people living there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Then you have the lie that, oh, a land without
a people for people without a land. Yeah, well what
about the people who are living there? They go back there,
and then for some reason, instead of going back there
and just like slaughtering all these people or driving all
of them out, they decided, oh, we're going to have
our enemy on the doorstep, our enemy, right, We're going
to keep our enemy like right.
Speaker 3: Next to us.
Speaker 2: Who does that other than people who just want to
be seen as maybe victims, which is historic. So you know,
it's come to this October seventh happened. Oh my god,
all these horrible things happen on October seventh. I don't care,
I don't care. I'm sorry, I'm anti Zionist. Deal with it.
You know that that war didn't start on October seventh.
That war started a long you know, started over one
hundred years ago. So yeah, I mean, I don't know
what's going to happen with that. It looks like there
is really no Gaza left, so you know, it's just
a matter of what kind of you know, what kind
of deal can be made. What I mean, I have
no idea what's happening there. China seems to be a
little more important. I mean, they make a lot of
the things that we you know, like especially the pharmaceutical thing.
You know, we're a country that doesn't really care about
like homeopathy or health. We just you know, shove pills
down our throats to make ourselves, to keep ourselves alive.
So and China makes a lot of those and you know,
it's like Steve Mannon said in the in the interview
for the book The War for Eternity said, I was
in Harvard Business School in the nineteen eighties, and what
they were teaching was that, hey, why are you know,
why are you people like manufacturing stuff here when you
can have it manufactured in China for pennies on the
dollar and it'll be even cheaper just have it shipped back,
you'll make a whole lot more money and you don't
have to worry about manufacture.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Then they use the whole pollution thing. Oh we're we're
exporting our pollution, and now China has to deal with that. Well,
you know, as Loot as Lutfox talks about in Kudeta,
you have a problem if somebody else is manufacturing your stuff,
you know, it is manufacturing your needs. And I don't
know how that. I have a tendency to believe from
inside things that I've heard from people who you know,
are very well connected, that by the end of the
year there's going to be something that's going to happen.
Something will happen over Taiwan, probably something at sea will happen,
and yeah, well.
Speaker 3: It's not going to be good, I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been getting that trigal too, just reading the because
I read everything, and just reading the pro Washington Bentagon
Proponticon papers. They keep putting out a high quantity of
China's gonna take ti Wan, China's gonna take Taiwan, which
to me is a signal that it seems like Washington
either wants China to take you know, It's like Washington
wants to get.
Speaker 3: The party started, and so.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, I don't think that China's
going to take Saiwan. I think it could be something
as simple as any exports that leave Taiwan have to
go through China first, and or anything that's important in
Taiwan has to go through China first, and that'll be
enough of a stressor to be an excuse to you know,
have a you have you know, one ship ram another
or something like that. I think that's that's a more likely,
more likely scenario. And I've actually you know, heard that
that exact scenario play is spelled out, so you know,
if if that happens, if it happens like that, my
sources were pretty good. But the yeah, I mean, I
think that the China thing is just going to have
to be dealt with. I think the best, you know,
like looking at like an overview of the world, I
really think like a more you know, more of a
Monroe Doctrine kind of thing, where we take we worry
about our area of the world. The Russia worries about
their area of the world, and you know, you start
looking at looking at things that way. I think Russia
should be an ally of the United States. I think
Russia should be an ally of Germany. I don't see
any reason why those why in this world other than
the fact that we're run by globalists who are completely psychotic,
that that that those relationships shouldn't exist. China is a
different story. I don't have the answer for China. But
you know, manufacturing things at home again would definitely be
a you know, would be a start to that. The
whole tariff thing. You know, I have a friend who
lives and lives in Beijing who you know, has said
that you know, so many like even if you have
the tariffs, there so many items and products have been
exempted from it that they really the terriffs don't mean anything.
So I think it's a bigger it's a bigger issue
than the tariffs. It's going to have to be something
on more of a scale of treaties, even if they're
not written. But yeah, I mean, I just don't. Yeah,
I would like to see Zionist influence remove from the
United States. And I think then Israel becomes is not
our problem anymore, Ukraine isn't our problem anymore. And you know,
I really think something that would help us help the
world is if Europe just decided that they were going
to rise up and be like, we're not going to
deal with this globalization anymore. We're not going to deal
with this globalism, We're not going to deal with this dirascination,
We're not going to deal with this invasion of you know,
they've been, you've been importing military age men who are
rapist and murderers into our country to seemingly punish us
and to make us want to leave or to just
destroy our way of life. And you know, I think
a lot of it hinges upon what Europe does, because
right now I can't say that Europe is the is
an ally of the United States. They seem more, they
seem to be more of an enemy, and it shouldn't
be that way. That's where that's where you know, most
heritage Americans are from. That's where our blood comes from,
that's where our families come from. There's no reason why
we shouldn't be friendly. But globalism and World War two
did a hell of a job, did a hell of
a job on you know, we don't even have a
West anymore. Calling at the West from like a philosophical standpoint,
does it isn't even really it doesn't really mean anything anymore.
It's more calling it the West is just a designation
of of a group of nations and lands, the Western
Special Economic Zone.
Speaker 1: Pretty we've covered a Balkanization of America, globalism, Trump techno,
or see all media podcasting World War Three, We've covered
the waterfront. You know, is there anything else that you
think is important to get across mentioned that you're.
Speaker 3: I mean, just go back to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're at the point where.
Speaker 3: We've been.
Speaker 2: It's been preached to us for one hundred years that
individualism is more important than anything. You're an individual, that's
the most important thing. And you know, to a certain extent,
you're always going to you're going to have even in
the most homogeneous societies, you're going to have individualism. You're
going to have you still have a rights to private properties,
will have a right to own a home. But collectivism
is historically what's protected people from the from their enemies.
And you know, we have enemies within. Our enemies are
inside the gate. We have enemies that are foreign as well.
And the way to fight them, you if you're going
to have a deracinated people who only think of themselves
as an individual, economic unit instead of a polus instead
of a you know, a people instead of a a
span in a Spanglerian sense, a race. Then you're you're doomed.
You're this is just going to continue and it's just
going to get worse. So yeah, find your people, find
you know, find the people who you know who agree
with you, who you know share your values, and figure
out a way to collectivize and become become powerful, even
if it's only in a spiritual sense. Start there. Start
in a spiritual Start with a spiritual sense of unity
with a group of people, and see where you can
build that from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I You know, we've got close reallyationships
in our spiritual community here in Mexico, and and yeah, community,
that's the.
Speaker 3: Way to go. Well good getting a download from you, Pete.
Speaker 1: Your your update again your links are in the description,
but tell us again where we can follow you your
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Speaker 2: I'm on all podcasterers for now, Apple, Spotify everything. The
Peekenana Show Pete. Substack dot com is where you can subscribe,
and you know, I put the episodes on there, and
you know the old Glory Club check out if you're
in the United States and you're you know, you're young
men who is looking for people of like mind. Go
to the Old Glory Club dot com. Check out our
Twitter our Twitter account. We have a lot of fun
with that, and you know, try to try to find
some people. You know, we've reached a point now where
wherever you are in the United States, an hour or
two away, there's going to be people looking to start chapters.
So you know, it's just a it's a fraternity, and
you know what I've been talking about as far as collectivization,
no better place to start than a fraternity and you
can you can work from there figure out what you
in your area, what needs to be done in order
to protect yourself from globalism.
Speaker 1: Well, I wish you the best in the Balkanization process.
May the odds ever be in your favor. And thanks
for coming on the podcast. Thank you, boy, appreciate it.