WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:14.640 He'll be blacker, go'll be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. 2 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:18.160 Let's do this for October eleventh, twenty twenty four. For 3 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:20.280 the next hour or so, let me help you sort 4 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.719 through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live 5 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:25.440 with me Jeff Grubb Today, what is going on with 6 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.760 splinter Cell and Nintendo is asking players to keep a secret. 7 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:31.719 But first, please join me in welcoming today's co host 8 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:34.920 the Game Mess Mornings. It's Dave Kline. Everybody, Dave, how 9 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:35.439 are you doing. 10 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.079 I'm doing great. Been playing a lot of games, too 11 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:40.840 many games. Yeah, that's never bad. 12 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.719 Yeah, what's what's like? What's been keeping you most busy recently? 13 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.560 Right now, I'm about doing with Echoes of Wisdom. Before that, 14 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.439 I finished Astrobots. I was playing in Plucky Squire, and 15 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:53.880 I actually, I think I have the same sentiment as 16 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:55.159 you about Plucky Squire though. 17 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:56.600 Yeah, I think I kill a lot of people kind 18 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:00.039 of settle in there where it's like, yeah, interesting, but 19 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:01.759 maybe not super fun to play. 20 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:06.200 I think, you know, maybe like a seven year old 21 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:06.920 perfect game. 22 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:08.959 Ye, I imagine it. Actually it's a good kids game. 23 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:13.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, perfect great kids game, but not too engaging. 24 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:15.599 For us. Yeah, exactly. 25 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.640 And yeah, and I'm super excited because Metaphor comes out 26 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:21.560 today and hopefully it gets delivered to me today. So 27 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:25.319 and I played first Berserker Kazan. I played the beta. 28 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.319 Oh you did? Okay? How was that? 29 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.040 It was Sakiro. It's just it's sakuo. But that's what 30 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.239 I want, you know, less refined saki thro. So it's 31 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:40.000 it's good. It's like it's honestly, it's more punishing. It 32 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:44.040 was pretty brutal difficulty wise, especially like the bosses. Every 33 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.640 boss is just brutal. But hey, if you like that 34 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.359 type of reward structure, it is. 35 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:49.680 There for you. Yeah. 36 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:52.599 I enjoyed it. I had fun, I very much. 37 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:55.120 Uh. I think I could be in the mood for that, 38 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.319 especially after a beta where they probably tune things down 39 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:00.359 maybe a little bit and kind of get it in 40 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.840 the right place for a wide release. Do you think 41 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:03.560 there's a chance of that. 42 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:06.359 I don't know, I mean tuned down, I don't know. 43 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.159 I mean I feel like some things were pretty sloppy 44 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:11.840 in terms of like I feel like they didn't feel refined, 45 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.960 and it was a very early beta, so I hope 46 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:18.360 that they fix those, like just enemy attacks and then 47 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.800 feel quite snappy enough, especially when you're trying to read 48 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:26.680 and react to things. But the bosses were super brutally difficult. 49 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.599 I played. I'm a soul's guide, That's what I'm known for, 50 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:33.120 So I mean, like, I don't know, I doubt they 51 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:34.520 tuned it down for the beta. 52 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.400 So maybe after the response from the beta, I'm hoping 53 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.400 they might tune it down for the final release. Do 54 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:41.400 you think there's a chance of that. 55 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:44.599 I don't know. I guess we'll see, because I mean, 56 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.000 it's I guess it's like Shadow of the ur Tree 57 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:49.800 where that came out and everyone was like, the final 58 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.400 boss is way too insanely difficult, and they tuned it down. 59 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:54.199 So yeah, right, I guess we'll see. 60 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:57.360 We will see either way. You know, I might be 61 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.560 in the mood for something brutally difficult right now. That 62 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:02.479 sounds good. Uh yeah, I'm I'm still working through eCos 63 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.719 Wisdom myself, trying to uh get through that. It's hardly 64 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.080 a lot of stuff taking up my time. But I'm 65 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:09.879 really enjoying that game quite a bit. Where'd you fall 66 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:11.639 down or would you fall on it? In the end? 67 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:13.800 In terms of what you thought of. 68 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.599 It, I like it. It's very fun. It's actually I 69 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.479 think my biggest pro about it is it hooked me 70 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.159 right away a lot of games taking me a couple 71 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.879 of hours to get into. But I think I fall 72 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.000 in the line of feeling like there's too many things, 73 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.000 there's too many echoes, just because yeah, I always know 74 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:32.719 exactly what I need to do when I get to 75 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:34.560 a puzzle, and it's just like takes me like a 76 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:36.759 minute to get to the thing that I need to use, 77 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.400 and as every single thing in the game constantly, So 78 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:42.840 I like it. It's just not like one of my 79 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.639 top z eli games. So it's probably like one of 80 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.560 my top ten games of the year still, but it's 81 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.400 not like up there it's like top five. I don't 82 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:51.840 I don't know. It's a good game. It's fun. 83 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:53.960 You see that. What do you think I could see that? Yeah, 84 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:55.319 I think that's probably where I'm going to end up 85 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:58.639 as well, where it's uh. I think that the sort 86 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.479 of the brunt of the game is really good. That 87 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:04.919 just like the a thesis statement of hey, here is 88 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.520 a bunch of stuff, and here's a world where you 89 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:09.639 can go around and do whatever you want with that stuff, 90 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.879 including you know, jumping over these trees and taking these 91 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.879 shortcuts and the open world, and you could do your 92 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.199 exploration at your own pace if you really want to, 93 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.160 and then we'll guide you back into the story when 94 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:21.759 you're ready for it. I think all that stuff works 95 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:27.040 really well, and then the specifics of the dungeons and 96 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.040 the puzzles, I think it leaves a little bit to 97 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.959 be desired, just a little bit more refinement. I think 98 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:34.560 we would have been would have gone a long way there. 99 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.279 It's just a really good game that is kind of 100 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:40.360 waiting for that extra polish to be a great game. 101 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:41.680 I think so. Yeah. 102 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.360 Yeah, And I think part of it for me too 103 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.279 is you kind of just find your five things that 104 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.839 work for you and there's no reason to stray from it. 105 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.680 It's like I found Crawley Spider Boy who goes up things, 106 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:52.839 and I attached to it, and it's like, Okay, I 107 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.120 can go up everywhere I need to. There's no reason 108 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:56.000 to use anything else. 109 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:56.560 Yep. 110 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.040 There's never anything better than the bed for going long 111 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:02.240 distances that I've gotten. So it's like, I mean, I 112 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.040 guess you can shoot something and attached to it, but 113 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:06.199 you know, it's just like you find your things and 114 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.279 it's like, Okay, well, why why change what I'm doing. 115 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:11.480 Yeah, and then the way I play games is very 116 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:15.160 much like I should be willing to be creative here. 117 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.319 So but that that gets the situations where it's like, oh, 118 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:19.399 I'm trying to get too cute and this idea is 119 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:21.920 not going to actually work. I'll just revert to the 120 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:25.480 thing that I know will work. But yeah, I don't know. 121 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:27.480 Once I started doing the kind of that first stream 122 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.519 we did here, I started hitting start to bring up 123 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.240 the menu so I could see everything. That made it 124 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.360 a little bit more convenient to to like get to 125 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.279 get through and try some different things. But yeah, people 126 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.279 are they're saying there's too many echoes. I don't think 127 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:42.360 it's hard to argue with that. Yeah, it's it's a 128 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.120 little bit difficult to sort of keep all that in mind. 129 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.279 And then the answer to that for everybody is, well, 130 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:50.879 I'm just going to use the things I know work. 131 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:52.240 And I think that's completely fair. 132 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:54.759 Yeah, I think it's a matter of what do you like. 133 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.360 And I was talking a bit to enough fellow gamespawn 134 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:01.319 play Max Bloomenthal, who's like Zeldig, especially Breath of the 135 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:04.079 Wild guy. He loves playing with those types of mechanics 136 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.120 and physics sessions and stuff like that. And I think 137 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.920 for him that's great having all those echoes. For me, 138 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:17.040 I prefer less mechanics but more thoughtfulness around those mechanics. Yeah, because, 139 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:18.959 like I said, get to a puzzle in the game, 140 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:21.319 it's like there's ten different ways to do it. That's cool, 141 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.199 But then it's just an easy puzzle to solve because 142 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:25.040 I'm like, Okay, move on, got it. 143 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.600 Yeah. Yeah. And I think half of that is the 144 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.839 puzzles themselves. Though they could be more interesting, they could 145 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:34.079 be more challenging, they could be I don't know, a 146 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.240 lot of them just felt like very vanilla like, very 147 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.639 obvious puzzles that barely seem to be engaging with the 148 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:43.319 mechanics themselves. All right, let's explain what we do here 149 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.920 most weekdays, I Jeff Grubb, will help piece your gaming 150 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.680 life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even 151 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.879 some of our own original reporting. For all these topics, 152 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:53.639 I'll get the input of a bona fide expert who 153 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.920 will make me look smart. If you were watching live 154 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:58.199 on twitch welcome, you can always listen to the show 155 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.079 later on podcast feeds by searching for game Mess mornings 156 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.079 or find the RSS on giant bomb dot com. You 157 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.600 can also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps 158 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.160 on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, we have a lot 159 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.000 to get into, so let's start the Morning Mess with 160 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:15.519 the most important news story of the day. Happy Birthday, 161 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.839 Janet show h Happy birthday. It's the birthday boy. Yay, 162 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.000 thirty three years old, he says, I think it's thirty 163 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.759 three years young. Personally, if I were to say. 164 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:27.759 When I saw that, I was like, is he really 165 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:28.680 only thirty three? 166 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:29.000 Yeah? 167 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.160 It makes me feel sold. Thanks him and Bailey. 168 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:36.079 I'm like, you kids, these shoulder kids. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, 169 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:39.279 Happy birthday, jan We'll find ways to sing you Happy 170 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.360 birthday multiple times on shows today, I'm sure. 171 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:43.480 But you have the power interesting to sing it. 172 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:47.519 Yeah, there you go. Yeah. I tried, like I was 173 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:49.600 trying to like bring the Mighty morphrom Power Interest theme 174 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:52.399 song into my head and immediately teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 175 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:53.959 popped in there. So that's where my brain is at 176 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:59.399 all Right, Let's keep going here. Splinter Cell remake is 177 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.120 still and developed and will be released in twenty twenty six. 178 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:05.240 According to a rumor. This is from Jonas Mackey at 179 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.600 Game Reactor. It has been three years since you've Besoft 180 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.600 announced splinter Cell remake, but the total silence surrounding the 181 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.079 project and Ubisofts many recent difficulties have led some to 182 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:17.639 worry that it may have been canceled, But according to 183 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:20.120 Insider Gaming, this is nothing to be concerned about. They 184 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:23.439 write that their sources say that the work on the 185 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:27.240 work on the contrary is rolling along nicely and that 186 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:29.839 the project goes under the working name NORRIF and is 187 00:08:29.959 --> 00:08:33.039 currently still a going concern. It is apparently being developed 188 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.159 with Massive Entertainment's game engine Snowdrop, which has been used 189 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.519 in more and more of their games recently, where previous 190 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.960 games in the series were created with Unreal Engine that 191 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:45.000 was like Unreal Engine two though that was like very 192 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.919 early stuff. Insider Gaming also writes that they have received 193 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.480 information that splinter Cell Remake will be released in twenty 194 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.240 twenty six, and given that the development was freshly started 195 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.919 in twenty twenty one, this would mean a development time 196 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.279 of five years, which is not that exceptional anymore. Yeah, 197 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.360 all that sounds about right, you know. I guess it's 198 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:07.000 good to get a sign of life that splinter Cell's 199 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:08.919 still coming along. We were talking before the show, Dave 200 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.039 that this is a game that is right for a remake. 201 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.840 It seems like it will be a good use of 202 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:15.679 their time, you know where there is some conversation right now, 203 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:18.360 especially when people are looking over at PlayStation be like, man, 204 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.840 you're doing a lot of remakes, but I think there's 205 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:24.080 some remix that people still very much want, and I 206 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.840 think this one falls into that category of please actually 207 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:30.679 make this happen, even if it's doesn't end up being 208 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:32.720 a fresh start for splinter Cell, where now we get 209 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.799 a bunch of new splinter Cell games because this one 210 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.720 did so well, people just want any splinter Cell at all. 211 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:40.360 And I personally think if we can get some real 212 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:44.279 real time ray trace lighting into the original splinter Cell game, 213 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:45.879 that would be a match made in heaven. So I 214 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:47.879 think there's a lot of fun possibilities here. What do 215 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:48.200 you think? 216 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.399 I disagree. I think Horizon is the remake people really. 217 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:52.639 Want, you know what, Yeah, I didn't want to say it. 218 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:53.360 I'm glad you did. 219 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:55.840 Thank you, so, Yach, you know that's what we're really 220 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:59.919 all then clamoring for, and I'm glad we're getting it. Look, yeah, 221 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.639 I think as you said we were talking about before 222 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:05.320 the show, and splinterself sounds like the perfect game for 223 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:07.759 an update. I mean, last time I played the game 224 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:10.399 is probably twenty plus years ago, but I think that's 225 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:13.759 a sign that it especially for a stealth game. There's 226 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:15.799 a lot you can do with a stealth style game 227 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.679 to up the ante, make it more intense, especially as 228 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.240 you said with ray trace lighting. I mean, plus is 229 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:29.240 like cool three green mask, right, Like that's perfect, perfect 230 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:33.360 for it. So I think'd be great, And I don't think. 231 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:36.120 I don't know why people were so worried after three 232 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:38.080 years of not hearing anything. In this day and age, 233 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:42.080 It's like look at Alan Fantasy fifteen took ten years 234 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:44.919 to make, yep, perfect Dark disappeared off the face of 235 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:46.919 the earth for a while and now it's back. I mean, 236 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:51.720 games take a long time to make, so it's yeah. 237 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:55.799 Yeah, And it's when I when I think about, like, okay, 238 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:57.759 would you'd be soft, and like what like would make 239 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.480 sense for them? I get why it's like, Okay, at 240 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.039 the first blush, you think splinter Cell doesn't fit with 241 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:05.440 a lot of stuff they've been doing. They want to 242 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.480 have an assassin's creed game that they can release every 243 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:10.159 year or maybe even more frequently than that. They have 244 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:13.679 so many Assassin's Creed, Franchi franchise products and the works, 245 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:17.039 and then you know, can splinter sell match that. Maybe not, 246 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.879 But I mean when we start looking around at like 247 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:24.200 what games are popping off right now. Obviously still there 248 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.240 are some multiplayer games that do well, but that also 249 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.080 seems like a riskier proposition than ever. And then it's 250 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.559 very difficult to make a new franchise that can match 251 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:37.120 Assassin's Creeds or Assassin Creeds ability to sell. So people 252 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.720 do want single player games, and I think if they 253 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.559 put enough effort into splinter Cell, it could be one 254 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.200 of these ones that really does very well for them. 255 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.320 So I think them sticking with it and giving it 256 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:53.120 the like full five year development cycle could end up 257 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:54.480 being very promising. What do you think? 258 00:11:55.559 --> 00:12:00.320 Absolutely? I mean, it's also I feel like Ubisoft hasn't 259 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.159 been doing as well lately, right. 260 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:05.919 That's right, the recent the very rocky road for in 261 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:06.919 these past few months. 262 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.960 Yes, so I mean this is probably just anything that's 263 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:12.679 different for them is a good idea. And this is 264 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.200 as you said, it's super safe. Bet. It's a game 265 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.120 that has a long running franchise. People like it remakes 266 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.120 are doing well right now. I mean, yeah, it's the 267 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.320 perfect idea. I don't know why they would drop it. 268 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:24.960 Yep. 269 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:29.039 So it's a good timing, great idea. Absolutely. 270 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.559 Yeah. So the sign is okay or the sign of 271 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:35.960 life is here. It's still in development. They have a 272 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.320 you know, code name from it for it, and they 273 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.360 even have a release date in mind of twenty twenty six. 274 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:45.279 Does that twenty twenty six release year window give you 275 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.559 more confidence or does that feel like, well, they're yeah, 276 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:50.519 it's so easy to say at the end of twenty 277 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.200 twenty four that this game might come out in twenty 278 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.679 twenty six, But that also might make it feel like 279 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.320 wiggily like, oh yeah, maybe it could come out. But 280 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.240 if we have to it again or cancel it, we 281 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:02.720 can still have plenty of time to do that. What 282 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.000 do you think, I. 283 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.360 Mean, I don't. I don't know why a remake would 284 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.840 take five years in the first place. Honestly, it is 285 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.840 because a little like you're doing totally new design. So 286 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.919 to me, twenty twenty six seems pretty realistic. But at 287 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:17.720 the same time, like you said, I mean, they could 288 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.559 always just push it again. But ye honestly, why not. 289 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.080 Yeah, I think it's nice that it has a date. 290 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.759 I don't necessarily like take this as gospel though, and 291 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:28.519 like there could be a million things that go wrong 292 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.039 and we could find we could hear, you know, late 293 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.960 next year it's like, oh no, no, all that splinter self stuff, 294 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:35.600 Like sure they were thinking it at the time, but 295 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:38.759 stuff's gone wrong. The people that were working on it 296 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:42.799 got conscripted to work on some Assassin's Creed project, and 297 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:45.000 so that got put off to the side. It's on 298 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:47.519 a shelf. It's not completely canceled, like I could just 299 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:51.240 hear that in my head already. But again, it. 300 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.519 Also be like a residieval for style, a remake where 301 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:55.639 it's like just totally round up it does. 302 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:57.840 I feel like if it's taken five years, it must 303 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.720 be that, right, Like what other explanation is I mean, 304 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.320 we also do here, like these companies frequently talk about, hey, 305 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:09.320 why are you remaking Last of Us Part one? Instead 306 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.600 of uncharged it wouldn't make more sense to do on Charter, Like, well, 307 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:14.200 on Charted, it's just a little bit older, and being 308 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.039 a little bit older means it's a lot more work 309 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.519 to actually remake that Meanwhile, last of us part one, 310 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.559 we just got to do this. We replace these models, 311 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:23.360 make a few other changes, and it cost us a 312 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:25.120 lot less money to remake that. 313 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.320 So yeah, to be fair, like you hear stories all 314 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.840 the time about companies losing the source code, which is 315 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.279 crazy to me, But like that's the case with Silent Hill, right, 316 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.320 Like that happened with Silent Hill, if I remember correctly, 317 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.919 which is why that original remake was so bad that 318 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:40.120 people hated so much. 319 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:41.200 Yeah, so. 320 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:44.600 I mean maybe that's the case with Splin or Cell 321 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:45.360 who knows. 322 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:49.919 Yep, And you know, if they are going all out 323 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:51.639 with this one, it is right in line with what 324 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:53.919 everyone's always says. All these developers always say, it's like 325 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:57.559 a game from that generation, from that era. If we 326 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.799 are going to remake it, it really will re require 327 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:03.399 a lot of effort, a lot of resources, and so 328 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:07.759 five years. I hope that when we do finally see it, 329 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:09.639 it really lives up to it because I'm in the 330 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:12.679 mood for Splinter so I always really liked that first game. 331 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:14.799 I played a handful of the other games, but I 332 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:17.720 really liked that first one. Him doing the splits in 333 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:20.039 the hallway while someone walked underneath and you shoot out 334 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.279 a light excuse me, shootout a light and then you 335 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.960 just take the guy out. That's a good time. Want 336 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:26.720 to do more of that. So looking forward to it 337 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.200 and if they can make it feel like a modern 338 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:30.919 game again, I think this is one that can do 339 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:33.799 excellent for them. But we have to wait and see 340 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.840 next one here. This has been going around this past week, 341 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.000 but since we're on this topic of remix and the 342 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.679 kinds of remix that people want, I figured I bring 343 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.360 this one up. God of War Remastered collection. It has 344 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.240 apparently maybe leaked. It makes a lot of sense that 345 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:51.919 the first of all, the franchise is going to be 346 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:55.480 twenty years old here pretty soon. Second, if you looked 347 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.879 at some of the data that leaked because of the 348 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.120 Insomniac hack, there was information about like how many games 349 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.000 or like which games were the most played on the 350 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:06.879 cloud streaming service that they have, and God of the 351 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:08.840 God of War games, the original God of War games 352 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:11.320 were always among the most played, so they know that 353 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.600 there's a huge popularity there even before the twenty eighteen ones, 354 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:17.120 which of course there is, but seems like they're the 355 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:20.080 demand might be even higher than we realized and so 356 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:24.000 them like being Okay, let's take those games, remaster them, 357 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:27.200 put them all in maybe one collection, maybe two volume collections, 358 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.519 something like that would make a lot of sense. And 359 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.279 I think people would be very welcoming of this kind 360 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.120 of remaster r because we're talking twenty years We're not 361 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.200 talking you know, seven years ago. 362 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.840 Right absolutely. You know, I've actually I've still never played 363 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:42.080 God of War one through three. 364 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.080 Those those are really good games. Those are really good games. 365 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.240 Yeah, I mean it's got the audience and I yeah, 366 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:50.279 I agree. As soon as it's like the twenty year mark, 367 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:53.039 when you get before the PS three era, I think 368 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.440 it's like, those are the games that people actually want 369 00:16:55.480 --> 00:17:01.000 to make of. Yeah, great, Yeah, I don't know what 370 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:03.559 else to say. Great, I'm glad if the league is true? 371 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.200 Yeah, great, exactly what the wait and say? I mean, 372 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.240 it makes sense. It feels like an easy one. They 373 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:12.759 do need more stuff, they need more content out. And also, 374 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:14.279 you know, there's a lot of love for God of 375 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:16.599 War right now, because at twenty eighteen of Ragnarok, why 376 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:18.640 not be like, oh, hey, for those of you that 377 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:20.559 didn't play that, here's this, and then for those of 378 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.200 you who remember these things, fondly. Here's a chance to 379 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.559 play them again. Apparently it would be you know, again, 380 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:28.799 in some form, maybe in one collection, but maybe two. 381 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.400 Maybe each game gets released individually, but it would be 382 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:35.880 like the entire Greek saga, which would be one, two, three, 383 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:41.000 the two PSP games, and then Ascension, so six games. 384 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:44.000 It makes me wonder what people who only play modern 385 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:46.599 God of War will think of the original games. 386 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.680 I'll probably think, wow, this one's fun. Not think God 387 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.519 War's fun, but boy, the original God of War games 388 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:54.640 are just fun, like that's all they're going for. 389 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:58.759 And uh yeah, they're also a different style of action game. Okay, 390 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.200 you know there's still like that his Inferno style of 391 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:05.920 action gameplay, but Arcadi style, so which is great. I mean, 392 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:07.960 it's a lot of fun, but it's different. So that's 393 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.200 where I'm curious to see what a new audience will think. 394 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.519 I bet my money would be put on a new 395 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:16.319 audience going back to those without much expectation would be like, oh, 396 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:19.200 this is way funner and way way better than I 397 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:20.960 thought it would be because I thought it would be 398 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.079 kind of old. And I go and play this and yeah, 399 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.079 it's different and it is just kind of a straight 400 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:29.799 up action game, but it's actually incredibly cinematic. And then 401 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.880