Speaker 1: And hello, how are you happy Wednesday? Yep, today's the
second day of July, year of our Lord, twenty twenty five.
My name is Tom Sullivan. And well we had it's
courtroom day today. Apparently that's kind of the dominance of
what happened in the world today. We've got the Brian
Coberger pleading guilty to the murders of the four college
students in Moscow, Idaho, actually two and a half years ago,
and the Sean diddy Combe's trial. They went back and
basically have wrapped up up all the business there. It's
amazing how jury's seem to be more efficient on getting
their decisions made as they're coming up on a holiday weekend. Yeah,
they're people. They've they've got plans they want. They don't
want to sit in the courtroom for they've already been
there for a long time. Big case for women's sports
coming out of you, Penn. The budget. The House is
still debating it. The Senate passed it yesterday. Now the
House has got it back there, going back and forth.
We'll get you up to date on that. We've got
a peak at the jobs report. It's all different. We've
got the ADP Jobs Report came out today. The monthly
jobs report normally first Friday the month, it's going to
be released tomorrow because of the holiday on Friday. And
we've got some tariff news to update you one. So
let's let me get to the trials in a minute,
because there's a lot to go over there. Let me
start today. We'll just get the update on the House
budget situation. There's nothing really different other than there's still
bickering back and forth. The Yeah, the White House is
supposed to meet with the House Freedom Coccus today. I
don't know if they did. I presume they did. The
head of the House Freedom Caucus is a guy by
the name of Andy Harris, and he is a congressman
from he's Republican from Maryland, and he's the head of
the Freedom Caucus that is demanding that they don't spend
so much.
Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say. Well, we're down to
an artificial deadline wire, no question about that. The bottom
line as we could take another week to get this
thing right. The Senate bill moved way far away from
the House bill added about seven hundred and fifty billion
dollars to an already large federal deficit and debt. You know,
it did things like it has stripped away the blocking
funding for transgender surgery from It's stripped away, you know,
effectively stopping illegal aliens from getting medicaid. It scaled back
the green new scam provisions from the House bill. We
should take the time to get this right. I think
there are enough people who say, you know, the House
took a position, the Senate took a position. Now it's
time to get somewhere between those two positions and send
something to the President's desk. Well, the President's already indicated
this may slip by a few days. I think again,
our goal is to get this done by the middle
of next week. I think it's easily done to get
a compromise version between the two chambers, and I think
that's important for the American people. Again, you know, adding
seven hundred and fifty billion dollars to an already a
large federal deficit and debt is probably not a good idea. Well, look,
I mean, the Speaker says that this may be the
best deal we can get. You know, I've just been
around the legislative process long enough to know when two
chambers disagree like this, you usually can compromise somewhere in
the middle, and somewhere in the middle could save one
hundreds of billions of dollars from the federal debt and deficit.
I don't like negotiating with myself, but the bottom line
is that usually these end up as a compromise between
the two chambers. So yes, if we found another three four,
five hundred billion dollars to apply to the deficit growth
to stop it, then I think that would be a
very reasonable thing to do, and I think that can
be done. The bottom line is, the Senate pretty easily
added seven hundred and fifty billion. I think we can
whack a considerable percent of that out and associate hard
work of banging out a negotiation between the House and
the Senate. It can be done. It can be done
in the next few days, but I don't think it's
going to be done by July fourth.
Speaker 1: So as we record this podcast today, they're still going
back and forth, and like you heard from Andy Harris,
it maybe next week. There was an interesting comment came
out earlier today about Jeb Bush when he was governor
of Florida. There's all this fight about medicaid and medicaid
benefits and are there a lot of malingerers that are
basically helking the system or is it going to hurt
grandmas and babies. Well, Jeb Bush apparently was successful in
reforming Medicaid in the state of Florida back in two
thousand and five, and a lot of people threatened that
they were going to vote against Jeb Bush because of
the fact that he was trying to reform Medicaid. And
what they found out, sorry, it's rather yeah, it's just
raw politics. What they found out was the Medicaid recipient
crowd or the crew that basically promotes for Medicaid. The
people that get Medicaid apparently don't vote because nothing happened.
Jeb Bush reformed Medicaid in Florida and it's been much
better ever since it was costing the state too much
money and now things are much much better. And apparently
the political outcome was Medicaid recipients they don't vote, so
the politician, I don't want to say they don't care.
But kind of the issue about women's sports and about
Title nine and about transgender male athletes or transgender athletes
on women's teams got a big, big setback today the
University of pennsylvani You, Penn, they're the ones that's where
Leah Thomas was a swimmer and set all kinds of
swimming records for you, Penn, well you. Penn today announced
that they are erasing all of Leah Thomas's swimming records.
Riley Gaines has something to say about it. Linda McMahon basically,
the University of Pennsylvania said, not only are we racing
Leah Thomas's swimming records, but we're also banning trans athletes
from participating in women's sports. Here's Riley games.
Speaker 3: I feel vindicated. I feel like pigs are flying. I
feel like Hell has frozen over. So it is a
fantastic day, of course for sanity, for common sense, but
I think more broadly for women, for humanity.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course she's thrilled and I am too good
for you. Penn. Took him a while, but they finally
got around to it, letting the McMahon, the Education secretary.
She chimed in as well.
Speaker 4: We are just very pleased with the outcome that we had.
Today is an utter triumph for President Trump and for
the administration, but mostly for the women and girls who
will come behind the Riley Gains and the Paula Scanlons
and others, and they've really laid the groundwork for them
to be successful.
Speaker 1: One of the other swimmers on the UPEN team women
by the name of Paula Scanlon. She also chimed in,
I think.
Speaker 5: Actually the letter that was sent out was the formal
update on the policy. I'm hoping that we get a
personalized individual email or letter or handwritten.
Speaker 6: Letter in cursive.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's what we deserve, so I will
keep you guys posted on that. But we were given
a blanket statement. What I did not like about this
apology was that they just simply said, well, we were
following the rules. To my question, title nine has always
been what it is. How is it just changing the
rules that men can magically be women for a couple
of years and then went back to reality. I still
they've been given no justification for that.
Speaker 1: Interesting. She brought up the fact that a number of
these transgender athletes switched to become a female from a
male did their sports, and then she implied, you know,
she said her directly, that they then went back to
being men. So total abuse of the trans process and
total abuse of women's sports in my humble opinion, you
want to talk about Israel and the Palestinian movement because
it comes up a couple different ways. One is President
Trump is saying that there are ceasefire talks going to
take place next week. Hamas says, well, we're not so sure.
Israel says, yeah, we're on board for a knoughty day
cease fire, so we'll see where that goes. But the
other part about the Palestinian issue is rising its ugly
head in the New York City mayor's race. The guy
who won the Democrat primary, Zoran Man Danny. He that's
his thing. He was the guy who started one of
the most aggressive pro Palestinian movements on college campuses when
he was a college kid. What wasn't that long ago.
He's thirty three years old, and so he is very
much pro Palestinian, and he won the New York City
primary for Democrats, and he's being accused of being anti semi.
So Harry Enton looked into the whole business about how
Democrats feel about Israel versus the Palestinian pro Palestinian movement.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely true. I mean, look, Andrew during the primary
attack Mandania as being insufficiently pro Israel. I'm not quite
sure the former governor understood how much the politics have
changed around this issue among Democrats. What are we talking
about here, all right? Who Democrats sympathized more with Israelis
or Palestinians. In twenty seventeen, the Democratic Party was a
pro Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the
Israelis by thirteen points, more with the Israelis than the Palestines.
But look at this sea change. Now Democrats sympathize one
with the Palestinians by forty three points. Oh my god,
that is a change in the margin of fifty six
points over the course of just eight years. So all
of a sudden, it's the pro Palestinian position that actually
reigns supreme in democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And
that is part of the reason why Mandani was able
to do so well in this primary, because those attacks
over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats.
They are now on the side of the Palestinians, not
the Israelis. So you know, you see this, you see
this among Democrats overall, right, But we know that Mandani's
base was younger voters within the Democratic Party. And so
I want to break it.
Speaker 2: Down for you with younger Democrats.
Speaker 7: Correct, So take a look here who age eighteen to
forty nine Democrats sympathize more of the Israelis of the Palestinians. Again,
in twenty seventeen, younger Democrats sympathize more with the Israelis
by fourteen points. Look at this shift now Palestinians. They
sympathized more at the Palestinians by fifty seven points. That
is an over seventy point shift in the margin in
just a matter of eight years. So the bottom line
is Mandani's base within the Democratic Party and the base
of the Democratic Party of younger voters. Younger Democrats have
changed tremendously on this issue in eight years time. I
rarely ever see shifts like this in which you see
one side of the equation leading by fourteen points eight
years ago, and then all of a sudden, the other
side of the equation leading by fifty seven points. The
bottom line is the politics around the Israelis and the
Palestinians have shifted tremendously among Democrats, and they've shifted specifically
tremendously among Democrats who are under the age of fifty
younger Democrats from Mondani and he's based and also the
base of Democratic Socialists like himself, like Bernie Sanders, like AOC.
They have just shifted more so than I think that
anyone could possibly have imagined, say eight years ago.
Speaker 1: That amazing. I find it absolutely shocking. I've always thought
that Democrats were supportive of Israel, but apparently within the
Jewish community, younger Democrats are not pro Israel. They are
pro Palestinian. And that is why AOC, who has very
successful in her political career in New York City, it's
another reason why this man Danny has been so successful,
at least in his attempt to become the mayor of
the City of New York. But it says something about Democrats.
It says something about who was it the other day
that was talking about the fact that Hamas used and
Iran has two used public relations PR firms to basically
get people on their side, and it looks like it's
working for Democrats. Under the age of fifty, younger people
are buying into whatever the PR pitch is is that
Israel's bad and the Palestinians are good because it seems
to be working, and it's working so far on this
New York City mayor's race. I told you there's something
going on here. It's much deeper than just oh he's
just a communist and oh he doesn't know what he's doing. No,
there's something. There's a movement among the people. And this
isn't just a New York thing. There are younger people
are tired of the old school politicians, and I don't
even think they care about what they stand for. They
just want to get rid of the old politicians. Some
of us that have a few more birthdays under our bilt,
we've talked endlessly about throw the bums out if they're
an incumbent, vote for somebody else, but it never happens.
And I can't help but wonder if this maybe is
a sea change where younger voters are actually doing what
a lot of us older voters said we were going
to do.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 1: See I mean again the marriage race. It was a
very small turnout and he was elected. Fifty six percent
of the people that turned out voted for him. But
the fact that the Democrat Party for under fifty are
heavily pro Palestinian when they used to be having a
decent group of them were pro Israel in the past,
big sea change going on there. Tariffs. You want to
talk to tariffs, of course, you do. The deadline for
the temporary pause that Donald Trump put on the tariffs,
he said, I'm going to go until I forget if
it was sixty days or notty days. In any case,
the date is next Wednesday, July ninth. That's when all
of us is supposed to come to ahead. So the
reporters are asking the President today about the whole idea
of extending the deadline, and you know, I mean, he's
mister negotiator, so he's never going to give you a
straight answer in some of this stuff. But he said, nope, no,
I'm not interested in extending the deadline. And oh, by
the way, we seem to have a real problem with
trying to reach any kind of agreement with Japan. And
I don't know if you'd noticed, but Japan is one
of our biggest trading partners in the world. China's number one,
but Japan's I think number three. So the fact that
we're not doing any deal with Japan anytime soon. And
the President said he's thinking of putting a thirty or
twenty five percent tariff on everything coming from Japan. So
for those of you that are business people, small business,
big business, whatever, and you buy things from Japan, brings
up Toyota, brings up Nissan. Oh, by the way, so
have you seen the Nissan ads lately on television? A
typical ad. They've got a shiny automobile running down the
street and going around some dirt road and doing all
the typical Madison Avenue advertising of a new automobile. It's
the Nissan, I don't know, SUVs something like that. There's
a couple of models, and in prominent letters on the
ad it says no tariffs involved, made in the USA.
So I don't have a scorecard to keep track of
all the foreign automakers that have moved to the United
States and built manufacturing plants, mostly in the South. But
apparently Nissan is one of them, and they're making it
very clear that their cars, at least these models that
they were advertising, there were two of them. I know
they have many more models in that, but these two
apparently are made in the USA and will not be
subject to any tariffs. So they're already pitching that that
was Nissan. Now I don't know Toyota, haven't seen anything
from Toyota about that. And the other night I was
watching sadly because the Yankees are not doing great lately.
But the Yankees were up in Toronto playing the Toronto
Blue Jays and they're at Rogers Stadium up in Toronto,
big beautiful stadium, beautiful city. And it was interesting because
they have these big the walls around by the field
are all big electronic advertising billboards, if you will. And
it was one company after another that they obviously paid
to get their advertising on the walls in Roger Stadium
in Toronto, and it was every single one of them
was promoting made in Canada, Canadian company whatever. It was,
a beer company, a shoe company. There were all kinds
of varieties of companies and they were all making a
huge point that this is a Canadian company and the
products are made in Canada. I'm trying to remember. There
was a oh yeah, it was they were advertising Heinz
ketchup and I thought, Heinz, that's that's a Pennsylvania company.
But they said, no, Heinz by Heinz Ketchup, that tomatoes
are all grown in Canada. Now I doubt that they're
grown for all of Heine's products everywhere in Canada, but
they were making it clear that if you are in
a grocery store in Canada and you want to get
a bottle of ketchup, you better choose the Hindz Ketchup
because the tomatoes that they made the ketchup with were
all Canadian tomatoes. But it was it stood out because
it was so in your face. Watching the baseball game
and again sadly, now Toronto's always had a good team
and they just yeah, Yankees are having trouble. But that's
another whole story. So the tariffs, the deadline is next Wednesday.
President said he's not going to extend. It doesn't look
like Japan is going to sign a deal. He'll raise
the tariffs on them to thirty or thirty five percent,
and he said he's not going to extend the terriffs
and it's for all the other countries in the world.
I don't know what he's going to do, but basically
keep an eye on out on next Wednesday. My bet
is he will extend him he'll do something. It seems
like he's looking for an off ramp. But that's just
my humble observation. And jobs won't talk jobs jobs were
today the ADP Jobs Report. It's a private sector jobs report.
More times than not, they're fairly close to what the
government numbers turn out to be a couple of days later,
but they can be off. But this one was way off.
The ADP Private Jobs Report or the month of June
came out this morning and they were expecting one hundred
and ten thousand jobs as an estimate of how many
were created last month. Well it wasn't one hundred and
ten thousand. They I'll gain one hundred and ten thousand.
It was a loss of thirty three thousand, So it
was a huge miss. They said that there were thirty
three thousand private sector jobs that went out the door
in the month of June. And the question that everybody's
watching closely is everybody you know, we've been talking about
the economists who have been predicting recessions now for a
couple of years, and they've been predicting that the job
market is going to slow down and it hasn't. So
at this point, is this the beginning of a slowdown
or is it just a hiccup. And it's important because
the Fed has said that the job market's strength, the
fact that it's been resilient has kept them from lowering
interest rates. The other thing that they're saying, we talked
briefly about this yesterday. The President keeps badgering Jay Powell,
the chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. But again, it's
a board. There's other members of the board. I think
there's twelve, So if he wants to throw Palell out,
there's still eleven others that are probably going to think
exactly the same. But he Pal has made it clear
that they were about ready to lower interest rates until
Liberation Day came along, and when President Trump announced the tariffs,
they sat on their hands at the FED said, wait
a minute, we can't be lowering interest rates because tariffs
are generally inflationary and we don't know yet what the
impact will be because the pricing of products is still
of inflationary. Prices are still kind of working their way
into the beginning of the supply chain. So the more
Donald Trump badgers the Fed to lower rates, they're not
going to say it out loud, but I'll bet you
they're going he keeps telling us to do it, we're
probably not going to do it despite him. But in
addition to that. In addition to that, the the fat
is worried about tariffs, and we again still don't know
what the impact of the tariffs will be. And with
Donald Trump talking about next Wednesday and what he's going
to do and what the race will be, nobody knows.
So uncertainty does not live well on anybody's desk on
Wall Street. By the way, the jobs report, the government
job support usually the first Friday of the month. That
would be this Friday, but Friday, this Friday is a holiday,
so the government job support will be out at eight
thirty Eastern tomorrow morning. We'll see if they match or
come close to what the ADP report was that came
out today. Under the trials, there's really well the Ditty
trial Sean Ditty Combs. I've seen more lawyers basically raise
their eyebrows on this because they think that the federal
prosecutor in New York City overcharged Sean Ditty Combs. They
put a rico charge in there, and the rico charge
takes a lot more work to be able to explain,
let alone convict on rico charge. It was designed for
the mob. That's what the rico charge was originally about.
It you have the godfather, and then you have the
lieutenants and the captains and everybody else that answer to
him and enforce all of the mob boss's rules. And
in the Sean Ditty Comb's trial, there wasn't any lieutenants
or captains. Sean Ditty Combs was the bad guy. He
was the guy that was accused of doing all these
terrible things. So did the rico charge even fit? And
a lot of lawyers are saying no. So it makes
you wonder about these prosecutors, especially a high profile trial.
Why would you go in and try and prosecute for
some difficult charge that doesn't really apply. So, out of
the five counts against Combs, he was found not guilty
on three of them and two of them he was
found guilty on. Now, as we're recording this, the judge
is trying to figure out. Combs says, fine, let me out.
I'll see you on sentencing day, but I want out
of this Metropolitan the detention center. And the judge says, well,
let me look this over and i'll let you know.
So we'll find out sometime this evening whether Sean Ditty
Combs is back on the street or not. But two
out of five charges and the big one the jury said, nope,
you didn't prove that case. It does make you wonder
about prosecutors. I don't know what makes them tick, but
it would be a lot simpler just to go with
a regular charge rather than doing these rico charges. It's
the same thing. We never got to it. But remember
what's her name? The DA in Fulton County, Georgia who
went after President Trump and she charged him and his
people under rico statutes and a lot of people thought
at the time, what is she doing. That whole thing
has gone away, But in the meantime, question about prosecutors
is another whole story, and that brings us to Idaho.
I told you I'm not fixated on it, but I've
been following it ever since. The story out of the
four college kids being stabbed to death in the middle
of the night in this little college town in Moscow,
Idaho made you wonder what was this all about? And
that was back in November, like a week before Thanksgiving,
November of two thy twenty two. Yep, it's been that long,
and that's where you go. Are the wheels of justice broken?
If it's taken this long to get a murder case.
They arrested the guy, this Brian Coberger. They arrested him
in December of twenty twenty two. It took him a
few weeks to figure out who it was, and they've
arrested him. But I'm going this is this is not
right that they have not been able to bring this
to a jury, bring it to a judge, even I mean,
I know judges have been involved, but I mean, the process,
the legal process is a is a terribly broken game.
If the defense lawyers are basically been trying to keep
him from going to trial because they knew that they
had had a guy who was guilty, and he pleaded
guilty to four counts of murder and one count of
felony burglary to commit murder. So there's a written plea
agreement that they brought to the judge today. The judge
said that he heard of the change in the plea
from not guilty to guilty. He heard about that yesterday
Monday afternoon. Said I was ready to start a big,
giant jury trial, and jury's selection was supposed to start
in mid July, and they were looking at maybe ten
thousand people that they were going to have to go
through to find an impartial jury. So the burglary charge
ten years fixed for that and a fifty thousand dollars
fine plus restitution. How do you how do you even
say restitution to the families of the four people that
had their young daughters and son murder. You can't restore, restitution, restore,
So that sentencing is going to come up in another
July twenty third, they set a date for sentencing. But
what it looks like is he's going to get life
without the possibility of parole consecutively. In other words, he
has to serve. There's four murder trials, four murder charges,
guilty on all four, plus the fenerty burglary, so that's
life times four that he has to weigh the right
to appeal, that the court is not bound to the
agreement and could change it at sentencing. Can't imagine the
Judg's going to change anything. I was watching this today,
and I forgive me it's a little out there, but
I wonder as they were arguing, and the families were
sitting in the courtroom, and the judge was there, and
Coburger and his lawyers were there, and the prosecutor was there,
and the prosecutor there. The families are just ripping him
up one side and the other some of them are.
But I kept I thought, I wonder if when you
pass away, especially if you're murdered, can you look down
on what's going on on the trial. Do they know?
Do they care? Do they even care? Coburger sat. Coburger,
who seems very nerdy, sat at the table with his
He had three lawyers with him. He was very stoic.
The judge would ask him a question, he would very
loudly and quickly, very directly, say yes or no. And
that was what didn't said nothing else, no answers. The
families would like the answers. But I have to tell you,
I know people wanted to have the trial, not let
him plead guilty. But there was one lawyer who was
talking about the fact that it probably wouldn't have changed anything.
That he's still if he's not going to tell the
dirty details now and in a trial, I don't care
if there's a jury there, whatever, he's not the details
he's probably not would not testify, and so you still
would not find out what he knows about why he
did it. That's the big question all of these cases here.
Donna Rotuno, she's a defense lawyer. This is what she
had to say about the fact that the families have
probably never ever ever find out what really happened to
their sons, their son and daughters. One of the victim's father,
Steve Gunkalvas, talked about the fact that he was basically
told to shut up and get along with the rest
of the program, that they were going to do the
guilty play, regardless of the fact that he did not
want that, he wanted a trial.
Speaker 6: It's my daughter, it's our children. How can you how
can you say it's just when you haven't even talked
to us. They told me it's not really about us,
it's about their process. To shut up and get on
board and deal with it. That's really what they told us.
IDAH Hosts failed. They failed me, They failed my whole family.
Speaker 1: The defense lawyer, a Donna Rotuno, was asked about whether
or not they're ever going to really hear from Coburger
about what happened.
Speaker 9: I really don't think so, and I know that that's
an awful answer for the families of this horrific crime.
But I agree with Josh, those may be the only
words we ever hear him say are the ones he
spoke today, And unless the prosecutor is going to come
out and try to get into his mind about why
he did something and explain it that way, I think
this plea may have been a good opportunity for them
to say we believe he acted in this manner because
but they didn't do that today. I really think that
part of the plea agreement and the way that they
did that today and the resuscitation of the facts is
really more about justifying why they did not go forward
with the death penalty rather than giving anyone any answers today.
Speaker 1: Tell you one person who doesn't like anything about the
fact that this is a plea deal for guilty as
opposed to putting the guy through the grinder at the
trial is Nancy Grace. Here's what she had to say.
Speaker 8: Technical legal term. It's bs. I'm a crime victim, and
a lot of what happened at my fiance's murder trial
is really blurry to me. I think I just I'm
not allowing myself to remember it because it was so painful.
But I do remember the felony prosecutor coming and speaking
to me and Keith's family before he went forward with
a trial or any potential sentencing, and spoke to us
and had agreement with us. Long story short, I feel
that the family was left out of the equation. I've
got the letter that they sent the family, a letter,
really a letter instead of a meeting. Listen, there is
DNA deoxuri, Boni klay acid on the murder weapons she
found under the dead body. What more do you really need?
I find this week sounds to me like somebody didn't
have the spine to take the case to trial. And
I agree with Gon solve us. Else would you take
the easy ray out. Yes, it's going to be a
long trial. It's going to be a battle start to finish,
and you don't know the outcome. You're rolling the dice.
But that's what trial work is. Man up, get in there,
do it. That's what they're paid to do. They have
an incredible treasure trove of evidence and all this business
about the family gets to look him at the eye
at sentencing, he probably won't even look at them. And
at sentencing they speak, he doesn't. We will never know
what really happened. We would learn that at trial, but
there's not going to be a trial. He will be
forever shrouded in the mystique like Ted Bundy and Rex
Hureman a BTK. You know what, you know what's gonna happen.
He's gonna take this deal. He's going to go to jail,
and then one day we're going to see him on
a zoom as some big symposium where he tells his side.
It's total there is. It's called the Fifth Amendment, right
to remain silent. Now, the state could have made it
a condition him speak, but boy, they didn't. He is
not allocuting and he doesn't have to that's right, and
they didn't. That's what I'm screaming here. It's not fair
to the victims' families. They're going away empty after this
without any answers. I know what happened to Keith. They
will never know what happened to their children. And let
me tell you one more thing. I thought I knew
all about grief in mourning when he was murdered. Until
I had the twins, I knew nothing. I cannot imagine
what this families, these families are going through, and I
even feel guilty talking about it because we don't know
the suffering they've had. And now this there's a remote
chance the Feds could step in the way they did
with Luigi Mangioni and Rodney King. Do I think it's
gonna happen. It would not be double jeopardy, It would not.
Could it happen? Yes, because Coburger crossed state lines to
do this.
Speaker 1: So today at the plea the change of plea hearing
in Boise, Idaho, the prosecutor did go through all the details.
They talked about the evidence that they had that he
bought a knife and a sharpener on March of twenty
twenty two while he was living in Pennsylvania, so we
hadn't picked out his target yet. They talked about the
self tower connections. On July twenty second, they found him
driving around the area where these four victims lived. On
July ninth, they had Colberger's cell phone connected with the
cell towers twenty two times late at night. On August
twenty second. This happened in November. Remember, so back in
August twenty second of twenty twenty two, there was a
local police officer that made a traffic stop on Brian
Colberger at eleven o'clock at night, and that he was
in Moscow in the area of the victims' homes. November
thirteenth is when the crime took place. The prosecutor said
early morning hours. The phone his phone tracking left pull
the Pullman apartment where he lived. It turned off at
two point fifty four am. It turned back on at
four forty eight am. Remember, Colberger studied criminology, so he thought, ah,
I'll turn my phone off and they won't know that
my phone was here. At the scene of the crime.
A camera traffic camera showed Colberger entering Moscow, Idaho, at
three two am. He circled the home at three point
thirty and at four five he finally parked behind the house.
He entered the kitchen sliding door, went to the third floor,
killed Madison and Kaylee. And then as he was leaving
and by the way, he left the k bar sheath
on the bed under one of the girl's bodies. He
didn't know it was lost yet. So he's got the
knife that had the single single source male DNA found
on the snap. He was leaving and Xanta Cardoodle. He Noodle,
one of the victims. She apparently was awake and encountered him.
He killed her. She was found dead in her bedroom
and her boyfriend Ethan was sleeping in the bed and
that he was killed. They think he was killed while
he was in the bed. There was no sexual assault.
The two other roommates one woke up, looked out the door,
saw him leave the house out through the kitchen door.
At four to twenty am, surveillance cameras next door to
a building right next to the house where these kids
lived showed the car leaving at a very high rate
of speed, actually almost crashed as he was leaving the area,
drove the back roads. His phone came back on at
four forty eight am, located just south of Moscow, Idaho.
They tracked him back to Pullman, Washington. At five twenty
six am. A camera in Pullman, Washington showed him pulling
in to his apartment. Nine am. He returned to the
scene of the crime and then returned to his apartment,
cell phone tracking him the entire way. Then he took
his selfie when he got back to his apartment with
the thumbs up. So this they tried to delete his
Amazon searches. He went to the DMV to change his
license plates on his car. The law enforcement was aware
of him. They located him in Pennsylvania. They did a
FBI did what's called a trash pull where they went
to the contents of the of the garbage can and
they found not only at his but the neighbor's garbage
where he was seen putting garbage into his neighbor's garbage can.
In that garbage was the DNA on a queue tip
of his father, and through genetic DNA, they said that
he's the father of the person who did the crime.
When they arrested him brought him back to Idaho, they
gave him a DNA test and it matched perfectly with
the knife and the father's DNA. They said the apartment
was spartan. There was no evidence in his apartment that
the car was meticulously cleaned inside. Again, he studied crime
scene scene, so it was it was an interesting hearing.
But that's it until the sentencing, which will be a
gag order stays in effect by the way the judge said,
until the sentencing that will be July twenty third at
nine am. So that's the Kohlberger case involving the murder
of the four college kids in Moscow, Idaho, two and
a half years ago. Why did it take that long
to get here? If they've got so much evidence. So
that's it for the news of the day as far
as Wall Street is concerned. We had so so on
most of the market. The Dow was down ten to
forty four thousand and four eighty four s and P
was up twenty nine. The Nasdaq up one hundred ninety.
I believe that's a new record for the Nasdaq. The
price of gold up eighteen dollars at thirty three sixty eight,
and oil went up two dollars today up to sixty
seven dollars in some change. So thank you for coming
by today, have yourself a wonderful rest of your day,
and we'll try this again tomorrow