1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: We welcome into Off the Bench, presented by All Star Toyota. 2 00:00:08,919 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: We're bringing in the school get. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Your sports talking so. 4 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: With Jacob Hester. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,039 Speaker 3: And aren't you scared? 6 00:00:17,519 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: Live from the Haunts Studio. Here's Jacob Hester. 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,799 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in hour number two of O 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,799 t B from the Raising Kine Studio. 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 5: Back like you never loved. All right, let's go around 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,439 the room. Who's got the highest qb R in the 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:01:00,759 NFL qb R in the NFL Give me a second, 12 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,759 all right, I'll. 13 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,039 Speaker 3: Throw a name out there. And I don't want to 14 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:05,079 do this, but it's a Dak Prescott. 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,879 Speaker 5: Okay, laundry. 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,519 Speaker 6: I also feel like I need to think about this also. 17 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:12,439 I kind of liked the heads up in the the 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,120 whole point. 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 7: I don't know. 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,519 Speaker 5: That's s QBR. 21 00:01:14,599 --> 00:01:17,359 Speaker 4: That's the whole point. It's rapid fire. I'm trying to 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,079 trick you here. 23 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 7: What's wild is I don't know if anybody is playing 24 00:01:20,719 --> 00:01:21,959 better the. 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,519 Speaker 8: Bakeryfield. 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah picked what I picked Dak because I think his 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,799 because they take everything consideration. He throwing the downfield a 28 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:35,040 little bit more so. I think he has more yards. 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, he got my dad like points. 30 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 7: Just got more yards. 31 00:01:42,719 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 5: I don't know because who's he play for? 32 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 8: That's so Dad Baker is a good point. He's been 33 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:53,239 playing well. 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 7: I don't know about QBR. QBR sometimes can be pretty misleading. 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,719 But Baker or and Dak, no one's playing better. 36 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:00,319 Speaker 5: I mean he picks his Dak all right. 37 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:04,599 Speaker 4: Here goes the top ten in QBR so far here 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,599 on this season at number ten, Mac Jones at number nine, 39 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Matthews Stafford at number eight, Baker Mayfield at number seven, 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,520 Jared Goff at six, Josh Allen at five, Lamar Jackson 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,439 at four, Patrick Mahomes at three, Dak Prescott at two, 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Sam Donald and at number one. 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,439 Speaker 5: No wish Trevor Lawrence eighteenth. 44 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: No, it's a good guess though, but Spencer rally higher 45 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:39,120 than Trevor Lawrence. 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 8: Love that. 47 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,159 Speaker 5: My whole point in doing. 48 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,599 Speaker 8: This, so almost says Sam Donald. 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 4: But I was like, no, have guessed the name and 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,199 I've given you the top ten. 51 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 5: Yeah. 52 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 8: Still, Toronco is this Tua I would love. 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 5: Two? 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: Is actually Conspenser because it's Justin Herbert right, No, just 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,080 hers fifteen say. 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: It's probably not j justus because there's Jordan Love. 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 5: No, he's eleven. 58 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:15,439 Speaker 7: Reason Daniel Jones Indiana Jones. 59 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 5: That's the whole reason I brought it up. I knew 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,240 that none of y'all something, and I knew I could 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:21,800 give you all the. 62 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:27,039 Speaker 7: Top knew that answer to his name is Daniel Jones. 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: So the top two qbrs in the National Football League 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,919 are Daniel Jones, who was kicked out of New York 65 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:36,319 and Sam Darnold, who was kicked out of New York. 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,199 Speaker 5: Those franchiss is just bad. 67 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:40,919 Speaker 4: Now, the Giants have won a couple of Super Bowls 68 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:43,960 with Eli Manning, so I get that. But it just 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,199 kind of shows you and tells you the guy that 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,400 you're always like that guy suck. 71 00:03:48,479 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: That guy is a bust a lot of times in 72 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:51,599 the National Football League. 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: So much it's about opportunity, who you're with, who's around you, 74 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,199 because you know your eye was telling you the story 75 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,240 during the draft when you selected that player in the 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,240 first round. Now, I'm not saying that's gonna last for 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,639 the total of the year, but looks pretty good so far. 78 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 7: So much as the tournament by your coach. Uh obviously 79 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,759 the players around you, but like your coach and the 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,759 way you're the same coach can't coach the same team 81 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,439 like two different teams the same way. Like you, your 82 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:28,399 coach has to be flexible and be able to design 83 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,800 plays and coach coach the plays that they're they're they've 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,040 designed with multiple types of personalities, multiple types of team chemistry. 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,720 Like not every there's no one two teams built the 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,480 same way. 87 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:42,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, and. 88 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 7: People sometimes people call it system quarterbacks. 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 5: It's not. 90 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 7: It's not a system, it's just a better offense. 91 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: Uh. 92 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 7: In the NFL, there's no such thing as like a 93 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:54,240 system quarterback. 94 00:04:55,199 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 95 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 7: There's just bad offenses out there. There's bad programs, there's 96 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:02,720 bad coaches out there, so that it's the opposite of 97 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,199 a system quarterback. Like, yeah, if you get put with 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,560 some bad teams, you're not going to be very good. 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:08,439 Speaker 5: Yeah. 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 7: I was super fortunate to get drafted where I was. 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,040 I'm glad I didn't get drafted two rounds before then 102 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,279 go to the Jaguars or the Panthers. My career might 103 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:19,000 have lasted fourteen days. 104 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 6: Right, Wait are you talking about Yes, your point, but 105 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:29,079 you say system quarterback and you don't believe that that's 106 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:29,439 a thing. 107 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:30,639 Speaker 5: Like I'm not in college. 108 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,199 Speaker 6: I agree, Okay, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. I don't 109 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,040 know what were you talking about. Were you talking about 110 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,519 Mac Jones? Because people were talking about how like Rock Party, 111 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:41,360 they say all the time that he's a system quarterback, 112 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:45,160 and then Mac Jones goes in that same system and 113 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:46,920 he's what tenth. 114 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,759 Speaker 7: So I don't know, I'm just me like a system quarterback, 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,519 and I've never really given this a whole lot of thought. 116 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,079 You don't see it in the NFL. Like system quarterbacks 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,439 not a thing in the NFL. Yeah, you have better coaches, 118 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:01,120 you have better play college, you have better designers of 119 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:05,639 plays and game planners. But in college, there's system quarterbacks 120 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,160 that are doing something that's an outlier, like doing a 121 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:12,079 type of offense that you know, let's just let's say 122 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Mike leaves Texas Tech for example, I would say those 123 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,160 are system quarterbacks because nobody else was running the air raid. 124 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:20,240 No one was throwing a sixty five times a game. 125 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,959 Those guys had a billion yards and most of them 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,480 never panned out and do a more traditional type of office. 127 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 5: Look at Will. 128 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,439 Speaker 3: Rogers right in Missisipi State. He was there three years. 129 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,959 He was like every record. Rogers never did anything that's 130 00:06:31,079 --> 00:06:32,600 a state I mean, I. 131 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,199 Speaker 7: Mean technically a triple option quarterback would be a system 132 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,199 type quarterback in my opinion, because you're running a type 133 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:41,120 of offense that a defensive coordinator is seeing once a 134 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:44,079 year and it's really hard to game plan for. But 135 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,959 that quarterback's really good in that system and that's exactly 136 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,680 what But it doesn't like necessarily translate to other types 137 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,000 of football. In the NFL, you don't have that. You 138 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:54,120 just have good coaches and you have bad coaches. 139 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,199 Speaker 6: Maybe like Tennessee too, because Joey Aguilar comes and now 140 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:01,519 he's like in Heisman Talks, Nico Yamali all the I 141 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,720 tried so hard to say and he sucks. 142 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:09,079 Speaker 8: So I don't know if that's Tennessee. 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,879 Speaker 7: That was like crazy like that. It's not a high 144 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,600 school offense there. 145 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 5: Run. 146 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:14,199 Speaker 7: It's just a good offense. Right. They're not doing they're 147 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,519 not running plays in philosophies and mechanics that nobody else 148 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,600 is doing. That's just calling good plays and designing good plays. 149 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:26,079 Like is that Texas and Texas Tech was just so 150 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:29,720 different at the time, Like Mississippi State. Yeah, Like missip 151 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:31,800 State came in here and threw for seventeen hundred yards 152 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,279 in one game and it was against l s u 153 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:36,360 kJ was binge two weeks later. Yeah, that's different, But 154 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:41,120 to say there's a back. Mac Jones was in New England, 155 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:46,439 had a terrible time. Patricia was his offense. Matt Tricia 156 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:49,759 was his offensive coordinator. Who's going to be successful in 157 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,720 that season? Tom Brady wouldn't have been. He's probably been. 158 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: More successful Matt Patricia, who is a lifelong defensive coordinator 159 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,920 currently the defense coordinator for the Buckeyes. 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Belichick made that stupid move to make Patricia 161 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:09,000 o C. Mac Jones went to the playoffics of rookie 162 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,680 People forget that he was ten and seven and went 163 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,240 to the playoff's rookie year. It's like, yeah, until Patricia 164 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:16,319 came there and screwed him up. 165 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 7: You gotta think like till Belichick, guys had a pretty 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,480 big falloff. 167 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,319 Speaker 8: Oh my god. It's honestly, like it's kind of sad 168 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:29,800 to me. 169 00:08:29,959 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, he thought he was a smart sky in 170 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,039 the room. 171 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,159 Speaker 7: So okay, well I don't so like such a great 172 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:36,879 coach for such a long time. Yea, did he have 173 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,360 like a like I don't know, like a mental drop 174 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 because he did hire Matt Patricia as an offensive coordinator 175 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,320 did he forget that he was a defensive coordinator. 176 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: I think I think. I think Jake's point, like, you know, 177 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,120 he was so good for so long. He's like, this 178 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,279 is gonna work because I say it's gonna work, not 179 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,960 necessarily do with his homework, just like, yeah, oh I can, 180 00:08:57,039 --> 00:08:57,559 I can do it. 181 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: It's gonna work. As I say, so, I agree. 182 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:03,279 Speaker 7: And the chat asking if I'll go on record and 183 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,120 say the air raid is the trash offense now it 184 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,039 looks so fun. 185 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:11,879 Speaker 4: Wants to know where the Jaguars play. Look, I'm from 186 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:15,279 tree Back, he's from Tyler, Texas. 187 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 5: We're gonna call it the Jaguars for as long as 188 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:18,960 we're here. 189 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 4: We could. 190 00:09:19,799 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 5: I know that. Come on, you're ready. 191 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: Oh, Palmer will come in here and be like, did 192 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,960 you say jaguars? Because I had to do an NFL 193 00:09:27,039 --> 00:09:29,320 promo last year and I also say jaguars. 194 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,039 Speaker 8: I'm confused. 195 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: I think the correct terms jaguar. He's like you said, 196 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,559 I'm like, I don't. 197 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: Like I am settled down. 198 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 8: Wait, is somebody saying are we saying it wrong? 199 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: Is just say it real? Red? Now? 200 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,519 Speaker 8: Jaguar has been the thing my entire life. 201 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to keep Jaguars who different people who want 202 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,200 to be proud of it will say it's jag I. 203 00:09:52,200 --> 00:10:02,279 Speaker 6: Don't think I've ever heard somebody say jaguars like jag warn. 204 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: You ever hear the come tell me for the for 205 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:06,159 the car, jaguar, Jauar, Jaguar, Jaguar. 206 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 8: This is not how I say it at all, jack jaguar. 207 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:10,600 I've never heard. 208 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,039 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that it was uar. 209 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:18,279 Speaker 6: Jaguars that now we're saying it so many times that 210 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,120 it doesn't sound like. 211 00:10:19,039 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 8: A real word. 212 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 7: This word has lost all meaning. 213 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:22,639 Speaker 5: Jaguars. 214 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 8: What even. 215 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 5: Jaguar? 216 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,039 Speaker 3: The team in Jackson. 217 00:10:27,919 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 7: Someone of the chances that jaguar. 218 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:33,639 Speaker 6: Was literally jack It was literally a Johnson Jaguar Johnson 219 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:34,200 High School. 220 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 8: Okay, So I think I know how to say jaguars. 221 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, see that's that's her mascot. 222 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:40,799 Speaker 8: I think you are. 223 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: Ah yeah, team plays there in Jacksonville ball Jaguars. 224 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,639 Speaker 3: For I promise, I promise you the folks in Jacksonville 225 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:53,360 say jaguar. 226 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 5: There's no saying jaguar. I ain't doing that. Should we 227 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,320 call you want to? 228 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,399 Speaker 7: You want to move him to London? 229 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:07,759 Speaker 8: Like wait, where to go? 230 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:11,879 Speaker 3: I haven't clown is Cowenn actually a really good. 231 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think he is. He's got to be 232 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,120 pretty good. 233 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 5: Right one. 234 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:24,759 Speaker 3: They're four winning despite not being that great talent wise. 235 00:11:25,399 --> 00:11:27,759 You look at what he did in Tampa's offense last year, 236 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,759 like Cohen's got a little something and he was good 237 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:31,799 at the Rams before that. 238 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 7: Dude, it's Frank Cringey. Then I saw it again the 239 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:37,480 other day. 240 00:11:36,159 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: It's it's the facial expression. 241 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 7: That comedic if he would have just done it straight faced. 242 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 6: Okay, so Matt, Matt is listening and he just sent 243 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,559 me a Google Jaguar pronunciation. 244 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 8: Okay, let's see. 245 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:55,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, if it didn't say jag wire, I don't really get. 246 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 7: An audio of like Serie pronouncing it or something. 247 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: Jaguars. 248 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,519 Speaker 7: It sounded like how we. 249 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,039 Speaker 8: Said, I don't hear a difference. 250 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 6: Jaguar, that says that says jaguarsaid. 251 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: Jaguar wire back. 252 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:16,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, turns out the red neck way is the right way, 253 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,279 even if it's not keeping. 254 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 8: He said old country as saying Jaguar. 255 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,159 Speaker 5: We're just we're just system speakers. 256 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,639 Speaker 8: We're system speakers. We're in the Jaguars. 257 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: Sheep sheep ball anyway. 258 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 7: Four and one, it was the coach that took him 259 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,519 to the a f C Championship. 260 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: Doug Peterson wasn't it? 261 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Was it? 262 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: Doug? No? No, no, it was Borders. 263 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,639 Speaker 3: It was Moron, yes, because he was right after Coland 264 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:48,279 is that right? 265 00:12:48,799 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: God? 266 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: That was a random season, really random defense was least 267 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:56,200 it was if Lenny was running back right for Nette. 268 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to go back and watch the AFC Championship game. 269 00:12:59,879 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: They should have wanted they had chiefs. 270 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:06,799 Speaker 5: I'm assuming that they had the two colored helmets. Oh yeah, 271 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,919 I was terrible. Ugly. 272 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,919 Speaker 4: Does anybody mess up a uniform more than the jag 273 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:15,480 dash wires? 274 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,799 Speaker 5: Alight? They wore their retros the other night, and those 275 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:20,360 are awesome. 276 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 8: I like the black ones. 277 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was uh, it was Marone. He was there 278 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,759 seventeen to twenty and that was fours what second year, 279 00:13:27,799 --> 00:13:28,960 first year, So that would have been. 280 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:29,919 Speaker 5: That would have been right there. 281 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,879 Speaker 7: That Maroon was the head coach in Buffalo when I 282 00:13:34,919 --> 00:13:36,039 was there for three weeks? 283 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,279 Speaker 5: Wasn't that great? Of course? 284 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 7: That was you know, he was super casual when he 285 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:41,600 fired me. 286 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 8: Actually, Maron, I didn't even care. 287 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 7: Super cat Actually he didn't have one ounce of sympathy 288 00:13:47,639 --> 00:13:48,200 in his eyeball. 289 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: Hey, Mat We're gonna let you go, all right, Bud? 290 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean good luck man pulled the brad Pit 291 00:13:53,759 --> 00:13:56,039 on Moneyball Man. 292 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:58,159 Speaker 4: Every time I got released, it was always like this, 293 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,559 like big to do and like emotional speech, and I 294 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:03,519 wanted it to be more like, hey, Budd, gotta. 295 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: Let you go. Here's your ticket. 296 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,159 Speaker 4: That's that's just that's awful, Like why why do y'all 297 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,000 mess up? And now like your uniform, your main uniform 298 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,840 still is awful. Like where the ones that you wore 299 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:20,399 the other night every game, the Mark Brunel days, those 300 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:20,960 are awesome. 301 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: That's terrible. That is a fireable offense to whoever did. 302 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:29,279 Speaker 3: That, even better than pants are white. 303 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:39,679 Speaker 5: That is a bad uniform. Anyhos AnyWho? 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That's trash rangers dot com. 326 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:42,759 Trash Rangers Sanitation for number one at picking up number two. 327 00:15:54,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: Still in with you. 328 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,399 Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven. Champs Purple and Gold to the core. 329 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:16,320 This is off the bench with Hester and Flynn Baton 330 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:19,320 Rougees go to for all things Louisiana sports. 331 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in Little R and B Wednesday. 332 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: Finally, doctor Stephn Etheridge can listen to the tunes that 333 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:33,240 a line you're spinning over there. 334 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 5: A little new addition here, no big deal. Yeah, the 335 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,320 headpluts are great. It's changes things up uh, Doc, you 336 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,120 are from which state? Originally? Florida? 337 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,399 Speaker 4: Okay, there's a team that plays in Florida in Jacksonville. 338 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,000 What team name is that? 339 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:50,759 Speaker 5: The Jaguars. 340 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 7: He sayed, like us got a little new and I 341 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:56,799 got a little nuance in there, a. 342 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,759 Speaker 8: Little different. 343 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,799 Speaker 5: Jaguars. 344 00:17:01,039 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 8: I don't know if he's saying jaguar. 345 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think he's saying a little bit yeah, uar, 346 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:08,799 he's a little bit more educated. 347 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: Alright, fair enough, fair enough, all right, I heard it. 348 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 5: I heard it took somebody from Florida. Though, because I. 349 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,599 Speaker 6: Don't think I could say it, I might concede this argument, 350 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,160 but I'm still gonna say jaguar. 351 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, I'm a thousand percent still saying it in 352 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,880 the same way. Doc. How you doing. Glad to have 353 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,720 you back on. I'm doing well, thank you. 354 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: Uh. 355 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:35,599 Speaker 4: Taking a look at some of the injuries across the 356 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:40,039 sports world. Uh So, last week we talked about two 357 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:42,400 guys for the Saints, Foster and Taysom coming back from 358 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,200 knee injury. It was funny like after having the conversations 359 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,160 with you, like I was kind of watching and seeing 360 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,920 like how they how they played, and how they plan 361 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:51,960 and how they cut. 362 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:53,279 Speaker 5: And they timid here, they timid there. 363 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 4: It was funny because I like, I felt like I 364 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:57,359 saw a difference, like Foster was like, oh the hell 365 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,680 with it, let's just go and Taysom not that he 366 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:01,279 was like bathing or not, but you could tell like 367 00:18:01,319 --> 00:18:03,039 it felt like in the back of his mind there 368 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,519 was like, Okay, let's to make sure that I'm one 369 00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:06,680 hundred percent ready to go. 370 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 9: There's definitely a benefit to be a little crazy, and 371 00:18:09,279 --> 00:18:11,400 I think it's faster. I think we all know Foster 372 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:13,680 and I say it in the kindest way possible. Oh yeah, 373 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,319 but yeah, there's something there. Sometimes you got a little 374 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:17,799 bit of that crazy gene and that that helps you 375 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,559 just to go out there, because yeah, it's scary the 376 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:20,559 first few times. 377 00:18:20,319 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 7: For sure, when you have a when you're coming back 378 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,400 from an ACL injury, Like what is the what's the 379 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,359 biggest like mental hurdle player? Is it like lateral cuts? 380 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,079 Is it full speed straight ahead? Like what's the biggest 381 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,160 challenge that you see mentally that as a doctor you're like, hey, 382 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,039 you're okay, Like, but I assume like mentally it's like, man, 383 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:42,440 I just I can't get past this one step. 384 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 9: I think you see it more just kind of the 385 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:46,880 side to side, the cuts, the because you start running 386 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,759 straight line pretty early in that rehab process, even sprints 387 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:51,480 straight line, so they've been doing a lot of that. 388 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:53,920 It's that first time they got to make that sudden stop, 389 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,759 that sudden cut, you know. And with with contact, even 390 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:58,920 though it's sometimes a non contact injury. I think just 391 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,079 the idea of getting hit, the idea of avoiding the hit, 392 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,279 there's just something there that kind of sticks, I think 393 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:04,160 with a lot of these guys. 394 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 5: Is there is there like. 395 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,839 Speaker 7: Statistics medically, like after surgery, like an ACL on uh, 396 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,319 let's just say, right leg has been fully blown, blow 397 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,880 your ACL then fully repaired. Is there statistics out there 398 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:27,359 that say this ACL is one hund like a new one, 399 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,079 Like the chance of injury to that same ACL is 400 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,759 the exact same as if you've never or is a 401 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,880 chance of injury to it again A lot. 402 00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:36,319 Speaker 5: Higher question, but it's a good question. 403 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:36,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 404 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,319 Speaker 9: You So there is a lot of statistics, and I 405 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:42,039 won't pretend to pull them up off hand, but what 406 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:44,720 we do know is that there's a lot of variables 407 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,200 to go into it. There's some people that just have 408 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:51,160 genetic predisposition, you know, the slope of the tibia, the dynamics, 409 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,640 and then and then to be fair, some of them 410 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,160 with the type of. 411 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 5: Surgery there are there are different surgeries. 412 00:19:55,599 --> 00:19:59,039 Speaker 9: That we do, different graphs that we use, and then honestly, 413 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:00,720 the quality of the surgeon, and so there's a lot 414 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:04,359 of variables that go into it. A well done ACL 415 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,759 and somebody without a significant genetic predisposition should be just 416 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,039 about as healthy as the one they've ever had. So, 417 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:13,640 I mean, but there's there's all these different things to 418 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,000 go into it, so it's hard to kind of break 419 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,400 it down simply. But typically, yeah, we expect that once 420 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,920 it's healthy, it's going to be as good as is 421 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,880 the one they had before. 422 00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 7: It's interesting because I've always heard people like throw out 423 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:27,000 like they are genetically they're more inclined to get this 424 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,839 or that injury. I never I just for whatever reason, 425 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,680 not thinking too deeply, and I always thought, oh, well, 426 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,240 they just have like weaker ligaments or they're you know, 427 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,839 blood type whatever it is, they're just butt. No, it 428 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,039 makes a lot of the angle of their bones are 429 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,680 a little bit closer or whatever to go and to 430 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,920 be able to hit that or nick that ligament. 431 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's it's pretty interesting. There's a and again 432 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:50,119 i'll probably butcher if I try and real exactly. But 433 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:51,960 I went to a conference and there was a guy 434 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,799 who's a position who does ACL reconstructions over in Dubai 435 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:57,200 for the soccer team, and there's something with certain people 436 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,880 of the Middle Eastern descent that the instance of ACL 437 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:02,119 there is drastically higher and it has to do all 438 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,799 It was really very interesting because he's like the number 439 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:05,559 of acls I do. 440 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 5: He's a guy. 441 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 9: I'm he's a world expert now because he lives there 442 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,240 and does so many of them. This guy's like and 443 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,519 I feel bad I can't remember his name either, but 444 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:14,599 but it was really kind of interesting to hear how 445 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,599 many more they see. I mean that the instance was 446 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,240 through the roof compared to what we see here. 447 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't think about that. 448 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't think about like bone structure and yeah, 449 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,799 I just always thought like this. My dad always told 450 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:27,279 me to drink milk for every meal and you'll be good. 451 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,759 Speaker 5: Yeah I'm still good. Advice. I don't know, I don't know. 452 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:32,480 It seems to work out all right. 453 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 4: So obviously, Doc, we're not talking about specific injuries with 454 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,039 the team here, but when you have a bye week 455 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,519 and you're trying to make sure that okay, let's have 456 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:43,720 some of these conversations like this guy like I think 457 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,880 he can go. I think he needs to get out 458 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,880 there and get some reps or hey, yeah, you know, 459 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,720 maybe this guy, maybe we hold him back just a 460 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,480 little bit and next week when you're preparing for game week, 461 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:54,680 then he can get right back into the fray Like 462 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,279 what are some of those conversations like? 463 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:57,279 Speaker 5: And how many you know? 464 00:21:57,519 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: I guess who do you get involved in those conversations 465 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:00,960 position coaches? 466 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: Like? 467 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 5: Where do you go with that? Yeah? 468 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 9: So it usually starts in the training room with you know, 469 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,680 so we'll use to sit down every we do a 470 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,079 clinic on Sundays after the games, and we'll sit there 471 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,880 each Sunday the team positions with our head athletic trainer 472 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,440 and then yes, sometimes you know, we'll get the input 473 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:15,559 from the coaching staff. 474 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 5: A lot of times the trainers are so. 475 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 9: Up to date on that they kind of already know 476 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:20,240 a lot of the input from the coaches, but sometimes 477 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,400 we'll kind of reach out and then it is going 478 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,400 to be a case by case, guy by guy. It's 479 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,880 when it really helps to know the individual's personalities. You know, 480 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,880 you know, some guys are gonna be the guys that 481 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,640 need those reps. You know that for them to feel 482 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,200 good on Saturday, they have to be in there. And 483 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,720 then for other guys, you know, you kind of know 484 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:36,839 that that their mindset, maybe especially some of the guys 485 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:37,880 that have been around the program long er. 486 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,079 Speaker 5: That's like in the NFL, you'll see a lot of 487 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:39,400 the vets. 488 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 9: They get there every Tuesday, they're off or whatever, and 489 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,000 we just know that and so it's not a big 490 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:44,799 deal if that this guy sits on a certain day. 491 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,839 Speaker 5: And it's kind of the same way. 492 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,559 Speaker 9: We look at our team and we really got to 493 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,640 lean on the training staff and probably more than anybody else, 494 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,039 cause they really know these guys their personalities in and out. 495 00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:55,359 So that's where that communication really comes in. And to 496 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,000 your point, it is it is something that's going to 497 00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:58,720 be different for one guy another. Some guy were like, 498 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,799 we got to get him out there. We got to 499 00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:02,039 see he can do you know, can you cut? Can 500 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,319 you plant? That way they can plan ahead and know 501 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,119 what we're getting into. 502 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,759 Speaker 4: Do you still like, do you do game time decision 503 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,799 type workouts at the collegiate level, because I really I 504 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:13,480 don't remember. I know in the NFL it was always, hey, 505 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,440 you're gonna get here a little bit early, we're gonna. 506 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 5: Have some people out here watching, or then we're gonna 507 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:17,640 work you out. 508 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna put you through what we think would be 509 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,759 a game simulation, like do you do stuff like that 510 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:22,240 in college? 511 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,079 Speaker 5: We definitely will. 512 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 9: You know, we'll have some of the guys that if 513 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:25,960 we've been nursing. You know, we've talked a lot on 514 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,559 here about a high ankles. So if we're talking about 515 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:30,039 a high ankle injury and this guy's rehab and he's 516 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:32,319 looking pretty good, he's been running. But then on the 517 00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:34,200 same time, you know, just like we talked about all 518 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,400 the ACL injuries, can you cut? 519 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 5: Can you plant? 520 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,279 Speaker 9: You know, if you're alignment, can you come out of 521 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:38,799 your stance if you're a running back and you make 522 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:41,119 that cut. So a lot of times, yeah, we'll get 523 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,519 to the field early or even sometimes prior to that, 524 00:23:43,599 --> 00:23:45,759 earlier in the day if we have the opportunity and 525 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,720 the training staff and maybe the coaches, they go out 526 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,000 there with them field and say hey, look we want 527 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,279 you to do these reps. And if they can't do it, 528 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,519 you know, then we're gonna hold them. 529 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 7: So Doc, we're talking a lot about like you know, 530 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,599 we know, the injuries are part of the game of football. 531 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,839 It's a collision sport, a lot of people cutting, a 532 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:03,000 lot of people doing things. But there's a scary side 533 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:05,759 of that as well, and we saw that pretty recently 534 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:09,359 in the Oklahoma game. Wide receiver catches the pass and 535 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,119 runs into unfortunately runs into the brick wall with his head. 536 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,519 Neck injury, head injury. Scary situation, and unfortunately that happens 537 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,759 every year. We see scary situations occur. As a doctor, 538 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,400 when something like that happens, what is first thoughts that 539 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,839 go on your mind? What's your first response to your action, 540 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,599 and you know, anything like kind of specifically about the 541 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,880 type of injury that that young man had. 542 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,319 Speaker 9: So those are scary, I think probably if we talk 543 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,480 about the thing that probably for most of us that 544 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,880 were fearful of every time you go into a game. 545 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:45,119 You know, of course you have your cardiac events similar 546 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,559 to what we have in our hamlet a few years ago, 547 00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:49,079 but that's fortunately even more rare. The neck injury is 548 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,920 something you're going to see. You know, you do this 549 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,799 long enough, you're going to have some neck injuries. 550 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 5: And so if you see. 551 00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 9: Somebody down a collision injury, you know that's that's a 552 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,799 real scary event. In that play, if you watched it, 553 00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:01,359 he comes straight in the wall and his head was 554 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,000 turned a little bit the side, but it was almost 555 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,640 that axial load hitting the top of the head. 556 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 5: And that's what we worry about, the motion. 557 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 9: That's why we tell guys, you know, keeping your head up, 558 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,960 because when you get hit right on the top of 559 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,400 the head, driving the head down into the neck, that's 560 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,079 the big mechanism we worry about. And so when you 561 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:16,279 get out there, you know that that's that's our first concern. 562 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,160 So we're trying not to move the individual. You don't 563 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,079 want to move the head or neck. You're trying to 564 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,480 assess is it a possible neck injury? Are they moving 565 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:25,000 their arms? Can they move their their arms, their legs? 566 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:26,960 Do they have pain in the neck. And if we're 567 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,680 worried about that, that's gonna be somebody that we're going 568 00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,079 to try and keep as still as possible because the 569 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,640 concern is that you might have a spine fracture. Then 570 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,160 you move that individual, even a slight movement can shift 571 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,200 that vertebrae just enough to where maybe it wasn't a 572 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,160 spinal cord injury. So this is an individual who maybe 573 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,279 won't be paralyzed and won't have some of those you know, 574 00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:47,160 devastating lifelong effects and if you're not careful, it can 575 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,519 turn into that even with very very subtle movements. So 576 00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:53,039 so it's a really scary injury. That's something that we 577 00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:55,359 have to really protect for. Like I said, we've had 578 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,960 a few of them, you know that every single one 579 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,599 scares you. Yeah, and we've been lucky with the ones 580 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,279 we've had at least here, but it's still a really 581 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:04,079 really scary event. 582 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,039 Speaker 4: Uh, Doc, I do want to go back real quick 583 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,880 to the New Orleans Saints. So Chase Young edge rusher. 584 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,079 He's been out this entire season so far with a calf. 585 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Now he hasn't been put on IR either though, So like, 586 00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:18,319 if it's not bad enough to put on IR, but 587 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,799 here we are, you know, six seven weeks into the 588 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,319 season and you still haven't been on the field. Jay, Like, 589 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,279 it's hard to speculate, but like, what in a calf, 590 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,559 maybe it could keep you out for that long, but 591 00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:30,240 not severe enough to go on the IR. 592 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, So these are. 593 00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:33,799 Speaker 9: I mean, calf injuries are like a lot of injuries 594 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,759 where you're it's kind of like the hamstring, where the 595 00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:37,119 severity can be all over the map. 596 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: They're so easy to reprovoke to. 597 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 9: Sometimes you think you're good and then that first time 598 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,720 you plant off, the first time you kind of got 599 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,279 to take a big step, you reaggravate it. You know, 600 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:47,440 you would think probably either a calf strain, maybe a 601 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,799 really bad Achilles tendonitis. 602 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,559 Speaker 5: We saw that with Christomcaffrey last year. 603 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,559 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, basically missed almost half the year the 604 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:54,880 the Achilles injuries, which is. 605 00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,519 Speaker 5: Not unheard of. It's not common. 606 00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 9: Usually a calf strain using Achilles tenanidis you're looking at 607 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,920 a few weeks more often than not. H My suspicion 608 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,319 usually is that it's an injury. 609 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 5: That got reaggravated. 610 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 9: I don't know that in this scenario, but if it's 611 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,359 something that was, say a true calf strain, usually you 612 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,799 can get that better in a few weeks. But maybe 613 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:15,039 you kind of reaggravated reinjured it, and then that can 614 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:16,160 be kind of a bear and you can kind of 615 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:16,920 fight the battle. 616 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 5: Doc. 617 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: I know over there, Brock, y'all have like the after 618 00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:23,359 hours stuff happening for the orthopedics. Did y'all get an 619 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,039 influx of patients last night after the uh old people 620 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,640 geriatric flag football game at all? 621 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 9: Wait, I'm gonna have to check the report when I 622 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,839 when I get out, I'm curious to see. 623 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:32,839 Speaker 2: Ye. 624 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 9: I would not be surprised if there was a very 625 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,119 heavy inflow. Usually we're seeing you a bunch of twelve 626 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,279 to sixteen year olds down that time. 627 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,599 Speaker 4: Look look like the most important thing is you didn't 628 00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:42,039 see two forty year olds in there. 629 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 5: That's right? Okay? Did we need to go? Maybe? No comment, 630 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:46,079 but are we there? 631 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:46,319 Speaker 2: No? 632 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: Okay? Too gritty to be pretty okay? 633 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 7: Right, thought about using the elevator for the first time 634 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,680 this morning, but I didn't. 635 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 5: Had a boy, I would have made fun of you heavily. Doc. 636 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: I know something that we were talking about before over 637 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:04,480 the tenth is mental health Day. Obviously something very important 638 00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:06,640 when you're dealing with athletics and that can that's a 639 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,440 wide range that could fall into that category. 640 00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,599 Speaker 5: Mental Health Day is something I know that you know, 641 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,400 something you want to talk about near and dear to you. 642 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's you know, it's very easy most times 643 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,680 about sports injuries. Obviously we're talking about the achilles, the 644 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,599 acl the calf or whatever. And I think it's important 645 00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:24,680 to remember that there's a whole other side of health 646 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,759 that is mental health. It's something that that we had 647 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,799 LSU take very seriously. I'm we have a great staff. 648 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:31,960 You know, we have sports psychologists on staff there. We 649 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,519 have psychiatrists that come out from our lay the Lake 650 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,599 that round out there on a regular basis. Our athletic 651 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,920 training staff does a great job with it. You know, 652 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,039 it's a it's a big passion that that that so 653 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:43,519 many of us there have, and you know, it's easy 654 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:46,880 to forget that that these athletes are are individuals as well. 655 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,759 It's easy to forget that you know, they're going to 656 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,599 suffer with depression and anxiety, all of these things, and 657 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,279 let alone with the riggers that come with being an athlete. 658 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000 You know, I think we all had the unfortunate reminder 659 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,319 recently with Kyraen Lacy and now everything that's come out 660 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,839 over this past last week with him with such a 661 00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:04,880 horrible situation. How how you know you can you can 662 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,279 think these people are on top of the world. They 663 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:08,960 can take one event, their lives can tumble out of control. 664 00:29:09,599 --> 00:29:11,440 And I think it's important, you know, I encourage anybody 665 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,119 if they're out there and they're struggling with any kind 666 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,039 of mental health issues, especially with this week kind of 667 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:17,200 honoring that, you know, please seek out the help you 668 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:18,880 need to be whether you're. 669 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,039 Speaker 5: A young kid an athlete. I can't say enough you're 670 00:29:22,039 --> 00:29:22,519 not alone. 671 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,839 Speaker 9: You'd be amazed how many of these guys you look 672 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,880 up to that are in the big league based fred 673 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,240 LSU that I've been through it. So so if you're 674 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,079 out there and you think you're alone, I promise you're not. 675 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,119 There are people that can help you for sure. 676 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: All right, there he is our guy, doctor Steven Etheridge. 677 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,599 Good enough to come in here in studio every single week. Doc. 678 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,799 Speaker 5: We always appreciate your time, my pleasure. Thank you, Doc. 679 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: All Right, more OTV when we come back here. Laugh 680 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960 from the Raising King Studio, topter bench. All right, good 681 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,160 all Star toy DV, Batonrouge dot Com, buying, new leasing, renting. 682 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,240 Everything is always available. 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Do you enjoy being hurt? 709 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,240 I know you smell the perfume, the makeup on the shirt. 710 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,319 Speaker 3: You don't believe his stories you know that there are 711 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,799 lives bad as you are. 712 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 5: You stick around and I just don't know why you go? 713 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 7: What's your man? 714 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:29,799 Speaker 2: Baby? 715 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 7: You never worry about what I do because I hold 716 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,599 back to you every night. 717 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,839 Speaker 5: Do when you're right. 718 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: I have a wama surf, good day, this phenomena head. 719 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,279 Speaker 3: Of rain, your stuff. 720 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 5: I just want to show you you are You should 721 00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:50,640 let me up, you let me all right? 722 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,559 Speaker 4: Welcome back here otb here on this Wednesday morning. 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Follow 734 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,160 bout eighty eight eighty eight eighty eight. That's Gordon mccurniey 735 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,519 Injury Attorneys. Geid Gordon dot com. Get Gordon and get 736 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:29,720 it done. 737 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: Where you're going stop in stead. 738 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,519 Speaker 8: From your hands to your souls. 739 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,599 Speaker 7: A good one. 740 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,039 Speaker 5: Hey, just one of Maria knew what he was doing 741 00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:43,160 on this one. Bo Hodell I knew what he was doing. 742 00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 7: I want to remind people out there that you got 743 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000 a text message saying that one of the stations was 744 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,680 a little fuzzy out there driving around. We know one 745 00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,400 four five nine kind of better in different parts of 746 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,119 the city. Hey, you can cut all that out. You're 747 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,279 in the area down eight point one HD two check 748 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,440 it out, crystals clear that. 749 00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 5: H Those cars have got those automatic headlights. Got that 750 00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,400 ball radio. 751 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: Actually switches automatically. He doesn't have to he doesn't have. 752 00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 7: To do it to clear it. 753 00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: Is that? 754 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 755 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,599 Speaker 8: It is clear? 756 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 757 00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 8: I know people have been, uh like asking you. 758 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:24,359 Speaker 6: I've gotten emails about the fuzziness. 759 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,559 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, HG two Lacy. 760 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:32,039 Speaker 6: But also I know that it's an issue that is 761 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,680 currently being addressed. 762 00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 5: Okay, perfect elephant in. 763 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,559 Speaker 4: The room with able to hear you our you guy, 764 00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:43,640 Paul slave Paul I bet Paul reached for Jaguarre Ball 765 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:44,519 on radio. 766 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,079 Speaker 8: It is important, absolute, says Jaguars, no. 767 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,079 Speaker 7: Doubt yeah, but it is important when you're on radio 768 00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:53,000 for people to be on the radio. 769 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:54,039 Speaker 8: Absolutely, I agree. 770 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 5: So A C two, I'm waiting for one A C two. 771 00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 7: It doesn't work. Go to one O four nine, one 772 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,880 of four five. You can switch back and forth. 773 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 8: So I don't think one O four to nine sounds 774 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,839 all that great either. 775 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 7: Something like in my neighborhood, it's better than one of 776 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,280 four five. 777 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,119 Speaker 3: Because you're you're probably a little bit east of here, 778 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,480 aren't you, because see I'm out, I'm not Walker, I'm 779 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,119 way east of here. One four nine is great. One 780 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,920 of four five is not great where I'm at. 781 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,679 Speaker 7: Well, you got options, We're just saying that, or a watch. 782 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 5: On YouTube check it. 783 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 6: Out, also live stream on the little bit upset on 784 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,239 the app or the website. 785 00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 8: Wait what about doc? 786 00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:29,639 Speaker 2: Uh? 787 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 5: Doc pointed out. If you go to YouTube, you can 788 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,559 see us. 789 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,119 Speaker 7: Dock pointed out when he came in any more in 790 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,960 Florida colors today, and I did not mean to do that. 791 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 5: That's all me. 792 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 4: You picked them to win. You're wearing their colors today. 793 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 5: You know. 794 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 7: That's how strongly that I felt about that. 795 00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:45,039 Speaker 5: When I picked Florida to win, I was gonna say 796 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:46,719 something else. But I think it would have got you mad. 797 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,159 It's another Florida point. Mm hmm. 798 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 7: Guess something else one you know else got mad? Head 799 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,199 coach for the Arizona Cardinals. 800 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 5: He did. We talked about it. You know who else 801 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,000 got mad? The NFL? Oh did they take some dollars 802 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,679 out of his pocket? 803 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,119 Speaker 7: The NFL fined well Jonathan Gannon' yes, Jonathan Gannon find 804 00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:15,679 him one hundred thousand dollars yesterday for one hundred physically 805 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,840 hitting his player. Now, the clips that were coming out before, 806 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,480 like midday yesterday, it was like, yeah, you could tell 807 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:26,119 he hit him, but you couldn't really see it. But 808 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,320 the crystal clear view from another angle came out. Yeah, 809 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,480 he bobbed up his fist to hit him. Oh do 810 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,360 we have can we get the view? 811 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? 812 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 7: I should have probably ask Taylor to pull it up 813 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,639 before I brought it up. But yeah, I've been good radio. 814 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,159 Speaker 5: But we were jamming to Mario. 815 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 7: But yeah, he Yeah, he definitely hit him. So you know, 816 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,440 don't hit your players. 817 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't do that. I mean hit their pads. 818 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,599 Get him fired up. You can do that. 819 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,639 Speaker 7: I'm all about old school. You can grab my face 820 00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:56,239 mask if you want. 821 00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,079 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sitting here and I'm looking at all this 822 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:02,280 stuff on the desk looking I forgot somebody got mad 823 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,559 at me for talking about the Saints while having a 824 00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:07,039 Charger's helmet on the desk. 825 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 8: That's stupid what he said. 826 00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 5: Once you go cover the Chargers, don't talk about the Saints. 827 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,079 I mean, we do kind of talk about jokes on you. 828 00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: We do a much bigger Saints helmet next to it. 829 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 5: I know, I thought it was funny. 830 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,679 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, so you want somebody only pumped 831 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,880 sunshine for the Saints. 832 00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 8: At Sunshine Pumpers. Yeah, o TV, ain't. 833 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 7: That been pumping some Saints sunshine? 834 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:30,639 Speaker 5: Though. 835 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 6: I think we've been real pretty good, Yeah, pretty good. 836 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,760 I think we're being realistic, even Saints correspondent. 837 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 5: We're way more positive than him. Yeah. Now I think 838 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,000 a couple congratulations we gotta win. 839 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:46,159 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, isn't that great? 840 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:47,199 Speaker 5: Offense? 841 00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:51,119 Speaker 8: Is like, I don't know about I don't know about the. 842 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess I feel all right, I 843 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,840 feel okay about it. 844 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 3: We were we were talking yesterday. Everybody's like, oh, the 845 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,119 season reasons out, it might be an upgrade. Tors Selly 846 00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:04,800 Simpkins was the lowest graded player. 847 00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he had a twelve passing grade not grade 848 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,199 not grade twelve twelve yeah, not out of twenty yep. 849 00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 5: But you know what the difference is. He was in 850 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,840 the first round pick. He's an undrafted free agent, so. 851 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,679 Speaker 7: Oh so yeah, he's find them. 852 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: Well, here's your bright spot. Spencer's playing grade. He had 853 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,079 a bad line. What happens when he gets a good one. 854 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 4: He did actually run block much better than he passed block. 855 00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:34,719 But again he talked about it. That's kind of why 856 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,719 you need Spencer back there right now. Like he's efficient, 857 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,519 making good decisions, good quarterback, and like when he does 858 00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:44,840 have pressure, he's doing a nice job. Is still finding 859 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,000 a window to throw the football. He's not taking a 860 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,519 lot of negative plays. You might call him a check 861 00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:51,679 down Charlie, and there was some of that for sure 862 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,760 in the beginning of the season. But also he's doing 863 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,400 a nice job of evading the rush and then hitting 864 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,679 his checkdown. Which I've never been in a quarterback room, 865 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,000 but I would assume when you have pressure and you 866 00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:04,880 hit the check down, you get a positive check mark 867 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,519 on that play. 868 00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 5: Yep, right check. 869 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,519 Speaker 7: So now I think Nick did make the point yesterday, 870 00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:14,519 like yeah, we could. I wish you'd push it a 871 00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:16,239 little bit more, try to push the vote a little 872 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,000 bit more. But like when when you have a roster deficiency, 873 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,960 it's like turnovers are going to kill you. Turnovers like 874 00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,719 it takes all any chance you got at pulling one 875 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,119 out against the you know, probably a superior team athletically, 876 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,880 like from from top to bottom on a roster, turnovers 877 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,639 will will absolutely kill you. I mean we saw that 878 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,519 this past week. But we won the turnover battle a 879 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:43,159 whole lot. Now, the turnover differentiate, uh differentiation there. 880 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 5: Was that's a big word. 881 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 7: Wherever Uh it's the score should have been a lot, 882 00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:53,039 a lot more too, a lot less because of the turnover. 883 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 4: But you know, there's there's But we're getting better. I 884 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:05,559 think they're going to have their best offensive game this week. Yeah, 885 00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,000 I think sas are going to have their best offensive 886 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,920 game this week. Now, does it lead to a win? 887 00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 5: I don't know. That offense on the other side is 888 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,119 pretty damn good. I think yeah. 889 00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,639 Speaker 7: I think progressively, you're going to see this offense improve 890 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960 week after week. Now you might have a week where 891 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:20,719 production a couple couple of things missed. Production might be 892 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,920 a little bit down but I think at if you 893 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,599 look at as a whole, if you look at it 894 00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:26,559 like month by month, this offense is going to get 895 00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:27,880 a lot better. You're going to see a lot more 896 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,440 plays being made. Sure, there's going to be bad plays 897 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,199 because offensive line deficiencies. Yeah, but that running games coming. 898 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,159 Kendre Miller is running great. I just think the receivers, 899 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,719 tight ends can get more camp like. People are going 900 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,280 to get more confident. 901 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 5: More confident one of having your tight end back. 902 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,639 Speaker 7: Kellen Moore is going to get better at at having 903 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:52,679 the duties of head coach and being a play caller. 904 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,039 We already see I see him getting better and better 905 00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,400 and better. So it's it's a group like we're it's 906 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,000 not unrealistic expectations. We don't think they're going to play, 907 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,719 We don't think they're win their division. Just want to 908 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,400 see improvement. 909 00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, what you saw last weekend, you hope to see 910 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,800 again this week. All right, before we take this break, 911 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,199 when remind you about our friends over at Raus's Well, 912 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:13,039 will be at Rouses Football Friday. 913 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 5: We'll be there for the entire show. 914 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,559 Speaker 4: So come hang out, come see us, Come eat right there, 915 00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:19,800 you sit right next to us. You can listen to 916 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,440 the show. We got a speaker so you can listen 917 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:23,960 to the show. 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Obviously you got Red 935 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,960 River coming up, so gonna break down that game with him. 936 00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:14,400 Ask him about the SEC, the hierarchy of the SEC 937 00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:14,960 as well. 938 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 5: All come in your way in our number. 939 00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: Three off the bench. 940 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 4: All right, go to Go Tommy's Gee, Tommy's with a 941 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,920 Y dot com, Tommy's Windows, Doors and also Sighting. 942 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,599 Speaker 5: When you go to the website, go see what. 943 00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:33,639 Speaker 4: They can do for you because you can check out 944 00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,440 testimonials of past clients, a gallery of work they've done 945 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,159 here in the greater Baton Rouge area. 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Let them prove to 961 00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:20,079 you there work go Tommy stockhum and. 962 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves, gets off the 963 00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:28,960 bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn. 964 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: Gotta change my answering machine now that I'm alone, goes by. 965 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,840 Now it's says then we can't come to the phone. 966 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 5: Share with the class at these lyrics. 967 00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 7: You gotta change my answer and machine, answer machine, because 968 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,079 it says we can't come. 969 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 5: To the phone. 970 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,519 Speaker 6: Guys, I have bad news for the OTB one brain cell. 971 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,719 Oh no, boy, So I put up a poll. How 972 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,599 do you pronounce jaguar, jaguar or jaguar? 973 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,159 Speaker 5: Oh? We lost this. 974 00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 8: It's almost fifty to fifty. Oh, but fifty six percent 975 00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:20,880 of people say jaguar. 976 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 6: And then Hunt message Hunt messaged, and he said jaguars preposterous. 977 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,599 Speaker 8: I say, you're pous. 978 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 5: Get in, you're preposterous. Yeah, Louisiana, shut up? 979 00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 8: How you looking down to you? 980 00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 4: You went to your little private school there, like miles private, 981 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,519 but it was just private so we could be good 982 00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,800 at football, like you went to like a real uppity 983 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,679 private school there. 984 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 5: Fud God bless you, jaguar. 985 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 3: Fifty six percent of people can be wrong on a 986 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,079 Wednesday that seems. 987 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,599 Speaker 5: A little crazy. 988 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,559 Speaker 7: If you're saying jaguar and baton rouge Louisiana, you're trying 989 00:43:56,639 --> 00:44:00,559 to be You're trying to be that guy out here. 990 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:13,519 Speaker 5: Tea, you put milk in your coffee, smell the beans. Hunt. 991 00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:14,719 I went to journalism school. 992 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 8: First, I say Jack war. 993 00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:22,599 Speaker 7: When doctor Ethridge, doctor said Jack wires. But he said 994 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:24,599 that there's something in there, something different. 995 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 8: When he said it, I heard the difference mm hmm. 996 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 5: But it wasn't. He didn't say jag war. 997 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 6: Right. 998 00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:39,679 Speaker 8: You know who needs to settle this argument for us? 999 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,679 Lady Jack, Yes, let's get her up here. She would 1000 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:43,960 love to. 1001 00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 5: If you're listening down there, come on up. Is it 1002 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,760 the Southern jag wars? 1003 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,519 Speaker 7: Right? 1004 00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 3: There ain't no way Louisiana. They say jaguars guarantee you 1005 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,960 unless you're if you say, if you say. 1006 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 7: Jag war, you're trying to sound smarter than everybody else. 1007 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, just embrace it. 1008 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 7: Embrace it. 1009 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:03,599 Speaker 2: We do. 1010 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 7: You're not you're not narrating Planet Earth. 1011 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 6: That's the. 1012 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 5: Say jaguar. Look at this jug. 1013 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 7: Was it a pumauma? 1014 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:25,039 Speaker 6: The pool is on Instagram, by the way, people are asking, 1015 00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:25,960 it's on people? 1016 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 8: Are I just made that up. 1017 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,599 Speaker 6: People are asking for my skin. 1018 00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know like I've been asking so yeah. 1019 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 8: First I do this. 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