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<v Speaker 1>Hell our ruddy through the facility of the iHeartMedia Megaplexus

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<v Speaker 1>is Dick Gabriel. This is the statewide edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Inside. You've heard comments from Mark Pope, Kenny Brooks,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick mengeone, and now we'll chop it up with

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Rutledge and Aaron Gershan and we'll keep you posted

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<v Speaker 1>on the National Championship College Football Game underway. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>ahead on the state wide BBI from Pikeville to Paduca.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a statewide edition of the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel, Aaron Gershean Billy Rutledge. Glad to have you

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<v Speaker 1>along on an evening when we've talked basketball and baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're going to talk a little bit of football.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Notre Dames just drove the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>The entire one out, the entire line took the kickoff,

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<v Speaker 1>went ten minutes, an eighteen play scoring drive, longest scoring

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<v Speaker 1>drive in bcs CFP Championship game history. Seven to nothing, irish.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you took the points, you got quite

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<v Speaker 1>a cushion. Because Aaron and Billy and I were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about really you know, this will be Ohio State's coronation. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the question is can Ohio State or can Notre Dame cover? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's going to be a game unless

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the Broncos who beat the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>The Broncos, Seahawks Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no, no, just this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the Bills, Oh Broncos. The Broncos marched down the

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<v Speaker 2>field and then I was a bomb touchdown bomb, yeah, hit.

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<v Speaker 1>A bomb and then the Bills fans like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty one on answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyhow, and TCU scored early against Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, it was a game for about five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, yeah, ends up being sixty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. By the time I got home, I think TCU

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen behind, like thirty one to seven. Anyhow, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to start with football right away because Aaron, you

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<v Speaker 1>had the story on the Cats Pause website, and you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it each of the last well probably every week,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember specifically each of the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks when we've talked about the portal and you've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about players ABC and D. But you said, and they

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<v Speaker 1>still don't have a left tackle. Well now they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they really needed it. And don't quiz me on

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<v Speaker 2>the first name yet. We'll get the pronunciation eventually. But

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<v Speaker 2>the last name Pete six foot eighty three, Mister Pete

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<v Speaker 2>will call him for now until we can get the

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<v Speaker 2>proper pronunciation. But six ' eight three twenty that's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>ideal size. The guy who this year started six games

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<v Speaker 2>he was banged up with twenty twenty three, was an

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<v Speaker 2>all conference performer in the in Conference USA. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember New Mexico State that year, they went in

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<v Speaker 2>and beat Auburn at Auburn yep so a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>had success in that game. I think I had the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers in front of me. I know Pete held up

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<v Speaker 2>really well against Auburn that day. And that was a

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<v Speaker 2>team that went to their conference championship game when they

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<v Speaker 2>were finished to finished the place near the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>their conference. So and then you saw the success Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>Kill and Diego Pavia helped bring to Vanderbilt. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>bringing in from that pipeline and they needed again, You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked at nauseum about how badly they had to

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<v Speaker 2>fill that gap at left tackle. It's the most important

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<v Speaker 2>position on the offensive line. That's been the position that's

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<v Speaker 2>held Kentucky back the most, in my opinion, in the

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<v Speaker 2>last three years, and they got it at least solidified

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty twenty four. And I think the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 2>now that they added that piece where you can compliment

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<v Speaker 2>is not only did they bring four starters, they brought

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<v Speaker 2>in a guy in Wallason Bond, but from New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>not New Mexico State, so not a teammate of his,

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<v Speaker 2>but a guy who can be a swing tackle. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's another thing that's been missing so so badly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Malchi would God bless him. He was not ready to

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<v Speaker 2>play last year and had to step in there as

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<v Speaker 2>a red shirt freshman. Had some moments like late in

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<v Speaker 2>the Florida game he held up really well, but we

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<v Speaker 2>saw him get exposed against Auburn against Tennessee and just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't quite ready yet. And now if he's not ready

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<v Speaker 2>again this year, they have a guy who's an experienced

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<v Speaker 2>right and left tackle that can be the swing tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously you filled every other spot on the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line. Jalen Farmer is probably gonna be the lone

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<v Speaker 2>starter from last year to keep playing, at least keep

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<v Speaker 2>starting I think Jager Burton kind of moves into a

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<v Speaker 2>swing guard rule. So, you know, these last three years

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<v Speaker 2>when Kentucky's really struggled up front, they've really been six

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<v Speaker 2>deep max the on line of guys who can even play,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone trust. I don't think the number of trust

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<v Speaker 2>was even six. I don't think it was five this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have probably seven or eight that can play

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<v Speaker 2>in five or six you can trust and that that's huge, huge, huge,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they they've done everything I think they

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<v Speaker 2>possibly could to improve this roster. But it's all gonna

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<v Speaker 2>mat it's all gonna be result based. But you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't, you know, crush them for this offseason. They've

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<v Speaker 2>done everything you could have asked them to do. Given

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<v Speaker 2>the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>They can play in theory, we shall see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how how well can they play? Can they be top

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<v Speaker 1>notch performers in the Southeastern Conference? You know? But the

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<v Speaker 1>old line, as we all know, is different, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>special in that and more challenging and that it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>five have to act and perform as one. But Billy

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was interesting. Somebody posted this on one of

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<v Speaker 1>the social media platforms and didn't put names, but just

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<v Speaker 1>put sizes. Yeah, and the big yeah, the potential is

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<v Speaker 1>five guys across the front and the lightest is three

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<v Speaker 1>point fifteen. And you might remember this from the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember that Tom and Jeff were talking in

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<v Speaker 1>the latter stages of the Texas game and it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like it was gonna go the Longhorns way. They just

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<v Speaker 1>rattled off the sizes of the of the Texas. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what it was. It was during that last drive

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<v Speaker 1>when Texas just like this Notre Dame drive, Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>they marched down the field and never threw the ball

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<v Speaker 1>like a fifteen play all runs and Jeff and Tom

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<v Speaker 1>just right off the sizes one of them did, probably Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all the old linemen for Texas, they were just

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<v Speaker 1>human landslides, you know. And now Kentucky, maybe you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a line at the least looks like that, hope.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, got to get back to the big

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<v Speaker 4>blue wall, got to get back to running the ball

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. I'm sure Mark Stoops was wants to emphasize

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<v Speaker 4>that again. This Pete guy six' eight three twenty I

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<v Speaker 4>believe is the intangibles.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yeah, I'll give this I'll give it to you

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<v Speaker 2>real quick. It was from Adam lucktteve On three, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll give them credit there. Pete six eight three twenty

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<v Speaker 2>uh the transfer from Markansas Joshua bron sixty six three

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eighth, the new Center from w KU Evan Wibberley

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<v Speaker 2>six ninety six Jalen Farmers sixty five three fourteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the transfer from from Bowling Green at right tackle

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<v Speaker 2>six to seven at three h five.

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<v Speaker 1>So the center needs a couple of biscuits. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what That's understandable though, sure center.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different at West.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and no backup lineman at an SEC school coming

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<v Speaker 4>to Kentucky, right, I mean, I feel like that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the different market.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sorry, started year starter, but both at Florida and Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was an all SCC guy at Arkansas in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, so more of a proven track record.

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<v Speaker 4>So different philosophy to take guys that are all conference

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<v Speaker 4>linemen at a lower conference and then bring them up

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<v Speaker 4>to the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>As opposed to a guy that couldn't crack the starting lineup.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and then trying to just rehash that and see

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<v Speaker 4>if he would work at a new location, So maybe

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<v Speaker 4>these guys are a little bit hung in their ord

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<v Speaker 4>at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody just needs an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, different approach, and maybe you're able to get

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<v Speaker 4>a different type of player than maybe you were looking

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<v Speaker 4>for it last off season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think we talked about it last week,

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<v Speaker 2>but they going off that they've valued production over potential

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<v Speaker 2>with this class. Were to your point. Gerald Mincy. They

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<v Speaker 2>liked his size, but he was a guy who was

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<v Speaker 2>in now the starting lineup of Tennessee. Brock Mander Griff

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<v Speaker 2>was a former top forty prospect, had never really touched

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<v Speaker 2>the field at Georgia this year. You go look at

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<v Speaker 2>all the transfers they got, and they might be from

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<v Speaker 2>smaller schools. I mean, for example, the best player they

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<v Speaker 2>got on defense from South Dakota, but he was the

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<v Speaker 2>Missouri Valley defensive player of the year. That's the best

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<v Speaker 2>conference in FCS. And he's six four, two fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the size do you want at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>True Edwards, their new ex receiver that they just signed

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<v Speaker 2>I think a week ago, is from Louisiana Tech and

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<v Speaker 2>he was an all conference guy. But he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a seventh year senior who's been there and done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Calzato we know played in the SEC, had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of moments at A and M. It was a starter,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's good. And then you know kind of flamed

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<v Speaker 2>to incarnate word and lights it up and you know

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. So I like that they've valued these guys

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<v Speaker 2>have been there and done that. And I also think

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<v Speaker 2>leans into their culture issue they had last year where

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't necessarily have leaders, because yes, you can, you

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<v Speaker 2>can become a leader by being highly respected and good

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<v Speaker 2>in the locker room, but you also need to be

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<v Speaker 2>a really good football player.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to lead by example.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Kentucky didn't have enough guys who were

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<v Speaker 2>a combination of that on last year's team. These guys

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<v Speaker 2>who bring in the portal have records of being good

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<v Speaker 2>football players, and you know, we'll see how they are

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<v Speaker 2>as people. It seems everything I've read and done research

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<v Speaker 2>on seems very positive. So I like the approach. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been much much different it is. It is much bulkier.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're talking nineteen transfers, twenty one new freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>That's forty new pieces the combined with the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are coming back, so you know you'll have to bring

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<v Speaker 2>it all together. But I like this approach on paper

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<v Speaker 2>a lot better than last year's.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, if you were going to draw a starting

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<v Speaker 1>lineup today, let's say, well, I'm going to stipulate that

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<v Speaker 1>there will be five new starters on the old line.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have a not the plug, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>a way too early depth chart projection up right now,

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<v Speaker 2>good plug, But I have four new starts on the

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<v Speaker 2>offense line. I think Jalen Farmer stays in the start.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, who do you have starting? And I saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>but tell.

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<v Speaker 2>The audience at Yeah, that's a whole different look. Except

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<v Speaker 2>so you have Jamoori. Macklin is going to move back outside.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he was better at in North Texas. And

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<v Speaker 2>they added two guys in the slot. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>Troy Stiello the transfer from Clemson, kne Trick Law from Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to battle for that starting job in the slot.

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<v Speaker 2>They might honestly just rotate because Kendrick Law is an

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<v Speaker 1>All right. But the other thing I'm looking at is,

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<v Speaker 1>who played last year Macklin. Yes, you got an old lineman, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it is, Yeah, Catison Rodriguez, Yeah, be one of

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<v Speaker 2>I would think it's gonna be Zach Calcotta. I'd be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>be a pretty even platoon. But I think Dal's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna have to show them that he is ready and

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<v Speaker 1>forward in a maturity department. Okay, yeah, No, that's more

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<v Speaker 1>than just keeping your shoes untied. It's you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>on and off the field, all that stuff. He's another

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<v Speaker 1>one of these kids apparently. I'm not saying he's a

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<v Speaker 4>and the coaching staff is asking, well, we waited eight

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<v Speaker 4>weeks too long to force the ball to Willcox's hand

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<v Speaker 4>because we wanted to start chip train him.

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<v Speaker 1>Have played Willcox more. I think that he was his

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm saying they are so different to the two

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<v Speaker 2>running backs Willcox and this uh Dante Dowell from Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're talking six to two twenty five, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who was just a short yardage guy. Eight of

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<v Speaker 2>then will Cox is a burner who you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>much where this Dowel kid, that's where he lives and dies.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think I think that's gonna be pretty even

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, especially because Dowell was

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<v Speaker 2>a Bowl. You see the talent they brought in. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't kick him out, so Kentucky clearly see it is

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<v Speaker 2>a big role for him if they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>Willcox is I'm trying to come up with a running

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he gets he gets to that second level

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<v Speaker 3>at the beginning a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's fair, you know, not Rodriguez, nothing they were

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<v Speaker 1>more power and once they broke through, they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of fans like the Boom Williams comparison. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but Boom I think could do a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 2>But Boom was extremely explosive.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, So I don't know. It's gonna be interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be fun. We haven't even started talking about

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<v Speaker 1>defense yet, but that's okay. But now you got to

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<v Speaker 1>wonder about where does Kentucky fit into the SEC once again?

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<v Speaker 1>And how good this league's going to be because everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>They are you know, Yeah, I mean, look, Kentucky was

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<v Speaker 2>that benefit true? Edwards would not have been able to

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<v Speaker 2>play if they didn't have Juco rule. Yeah, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that would be done. So Kentucky's benefiting it from

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<v Speaker 2>it too. A lot of schools are benefiting from that.

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<v Speaker 4>Do we feel like expectations have lowered a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>with Kentucky football?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the fans are going to be very pessimistic

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<v Speaker 2>and can't I can't blame them, but inside the way

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<v Speaker 2>they're building this thing, so, and I put this in

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<v Speaker 2>the story, eleven of the nineteen transfers they brought in

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<v Speaker 2>have one year to play, So they're going all in

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<v Speaker 2>on this year. Whether that's the right thing to do

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<v Speaker 2>or not, they are going all in on this season.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't afford to think about the next season anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That's right. I think the expectations from the outside

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<v Speaker 2>are probably like, come surprise me, I'm done, I'm pissed off,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. But inside those walls, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Do or die.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they're operating. If they're signing eleven out of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen guys as one year fill ins.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I firmly believe as we get to

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<v Speaker 1>a break, most of the preseason talk will be about,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the quarterback, because that's where college football almost

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<v Speaker 1>always is. When you're talking about a kid who was

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<v Speaker 1>especially local, you know, absolutely sign But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to bring a guy in with that kind of experience.

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<v Speaker 1>That means if Bowie, if Bowley ends up being the

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<v Speaker 1>starter on opening day, that tells you a lot. That

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<v Speaker 1>tells you that because it tells you I think more

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<v Speaker 1>about Bully than it does the kid they brought in.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be a little bit of both. I think

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<v Speaker 2>guests I think definitely would mean bully really impressed exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you're calls out of here. He's a seventh

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<v Speaker 2>year senior. I mean he's not coming here to warm

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<v Speaker 2>up cutter Bully, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sure you know, like when Stephen Johnson got here,

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<v Speaker 1>I want the opportunity to compete for the start in

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<v Speaker 1>ended up the number two guy. But look what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You're one snap away from getting your number, as we

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<v Speaker 1>Next thing, you know, Stephen Johnson's beating Tennessee. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and we'll talk some basketball. As Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State drives and early in the second quarter, tie is

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<v Speaker 1>on the state wide BBI Border to border. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a statewide edition at a big women's sider Dick Gabriel,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Rudlajaron Gershawan and let us shift over to basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope still stinging from the loss to Alabama. Understandable,

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<v Speaker 1>but as Tom Leach pointed out, this was a experienced

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama team that was really good at extending its defense

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<v Speaker 1>and then covering the back door there with some really

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<v Speaker 1>talented bigs. Good learning process, good learning opportunity for Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, yeah, that's a great Alabama team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they came into the year, I think that the second

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<v Speaker 2>highest odds a win it all, coming off a Final four,

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<v Speaker 2>bringing back their best two players from their Final four team, reloading.

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<v Speaker 1>In the best player in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mark Sears, So you got to give him a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of credit. And you know, they play such a

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<v Speaker 2>similar style, and they've been together longer. They kind of

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<v Speaker 2>probably helped them defensively, honestly, kind of Kentucky played such

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<v Speaker 2>a similar way. But I thought Kentucky held their own especially.

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<v Speaker 2>I still scored ninety seven points. With all that said,

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<v Speaker 2>and they shot we'll take eleven for twenty seven from three.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they got the shots up, they were hitting them.

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<v Speaker 2>They did a lot of good things. They erased several deficits.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's very similar to the Florida game in the

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<v Speaker 2>other direction, right, Kentucky. And the Florida game had three

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<v Speaker 2>ten oh runs. That's hard to overcome. Alabama in this

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<v Speaker 2>game had three nine zero runs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just hard to win in Kentucky from getting on exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, I think Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Alabama led by like nine or eleven early

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<v Speaker 2>in the first half. Kentucky came back to go up

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<v Speaker 2>by one.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point it was thirteen to seven. Kentucky. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they well, and then alb you know, Obama went on

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<v Speaker 1>a run. Yeah, so Kentucky made a run they kept.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, with five minutes left, this game was

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<v Speaker 2>tied with a Brandon Garrison dunk and the moment I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, uh oh, it was nine seconds after that dunk,

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama was down the court inting a lot up and oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and there was another moment and I'm not knocking

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<v Speaker 1>the kid, will I'm knocking what he did. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>not where they are without Butler. Oh yeah, his his

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<v Speaker 1>early in the shot clock step back.

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<v Speaker 3>Not smart.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, they for a guy with a basketball IQ

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<v Speaker 1>that's off the charts. Yeah, and I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty clear what he was trying to do,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if he had if he had hit that shot,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been massive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's a no no, yes, if you hit.

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<v Speaker 1>It exactly, But as it turned out it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a no no, you know, yeah, no that like I

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<v Speaker 1>really felt like things turned right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that nine zero run that put the game away

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<v Speaker 2>was Kentucky. They got beat to fifty to fifty balls twice. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they blocked two Alabama shots, couldn't get the fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty ball after the block, and they could both get

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<v Speaker 2>kicked out for threes. They have the rush shot by Butler,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a rushed layup by Williams that misses in

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<v Speaker 2>a turnover by Butler, and that's what happens. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you play a great team like that, the margin fair

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<v Speaker 3>And Kentucky was in the bonus five minutes into the second.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a huge problem I forgot about. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>that's a huge problem. Entucky was in a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>foul trouble. Alabama shot fourteen more free throws. They made

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen more free throws in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not you know, it was a well officiated There

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<v Speaker 2>was a couple of calls here and there, but every

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<v Speaker 2>game was a couple of calls here and there. I

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you've got two teams that get up

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<v Speaker 1>and on the floor like that, there are more positions,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more opportunities for officials to make mistakes. And there

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<v Speaker 1>were there were a couple, but you know, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>anything like the phantom flop.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's all Mark as Billy would know. That's all

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<v Speaker 4>Like, Yeah, they categorized every foul over the last five

422
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<v Speaker 4>games to look at trends, if what the officials are calling,

423
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<v Speaker 4>what Kentucky can't attack, what they can't do and and

424
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<v Speaker 4>I think even said that in an old show, that's

425
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<v Speaker 4>like they're just trying to figure out not what the

426
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<v Speaker 4>rule that, not what the rule book says, but what

427
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<v Speaker 4>the rules that are being.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Called learned the whistle.

429
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<v Speaker 3>That's a really interesting way of looking at it. Honestly.

430
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<v Speaker 4>Now, can they defend without fouling? We'll see because in

431
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<v Speaker 4>the games that they've been tested in the SEC, it's

432
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<v Speaker 4>been very physical affairs and both times the other team

433
00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:14.759
<v Speaker 4>has gotten more free throws and got to the line

434
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<v Speaker 4>more than Kentucky. I think it goes back to something

435
00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Goose Gibvens said, which was when you are the aggressor,

436
00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:24.839
<v Speaker 4>when you are the one, you know, initiating the physicality,

437
00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.119
<v Speaker 4>I think you get more calls. I think that lends

438
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<v Speaker 4>yourself to be the being, the one that benefits from

439
00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.279
<v Speaker 4>a fifty to fifty call, and then that leads to

440
00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:35.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, differences like that.

441
00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:38.079
<v Speaker 1>But we'll see. Well, you might remember this Billy from

442
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<v Speaker 1>our trip to Cynthiana to talk to the pizza man.

443
00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:46.519
<v Speaker 1>That's right, right, he is the timeout coordinator at Kentucky games.

444
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<v Speaker 1>If you watch when the officials go over to look

445
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<v Speaker 1>at the replays and all, he's the guy with the

446
00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.279
<v Speaker 1>headset on right. Well, he is a former Division one referee,

447
00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.200
<v Speaker 1>still the best high school ref I've ever seen. Now

448
00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.039
<v Speaker 1>to cludes, my brother and his sons are both D

449
00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.799
<v Speaker 1>one referee. So Billy and I, if some of you

450
00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.319
<v Speaker 1>listen to the local show, might recall that a couple

451
00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of summers back and I promise him we're going to

452
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<v Speaker 1>make a return trip.

453
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<v Speaker 3>We need to Dozza.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm gonna bring my man Cameron middles you

455
00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.920
<v Speaker 1>hates referees, We're gonna we're gonna sit him down with Doug.

456
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<v Speaker 1>But one of the first things Doug taught us or

457
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<v Speaker 1>told us. I don't know if this was news to you.

458
00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:26.359
<v Speaker 1>It was interesting to me. Was referees watch if you

459
00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.599
<v Speaker 1>got an offensive defense, guy, they study I'm not sure

460
00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:33.319
<v Speaker 1>what the right word is, but they keep an eye

461
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<v Speaker 1>more on the defender than the guy with the ball

462
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<v Speaker 1>because I guess because the defender is more prone to

463
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<v Speaker 1>make a mistake in terms of a foul as opposed

464
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<v Speaker 1>to an offensive foul or a turnover, right, which to

465
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<v Speaker 1>me makes sense going back to what you just said

466
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<v Speaker 1>about being the aggressor with Jack said, so if you're

467
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<v Speaker 1>the offensive aggressor, you know the defender has to react.

468
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<v Speaker 1>And who is the referee watching the defender? Right? I

469
00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:09.400
<v Speaker 1>thought Nelson got away with a couple push ups, but

470
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<v Speaker 1>you're you're gonna get away with those as much as

471
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<v Speaker 1>your call for it. Right.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

473
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<v Speaker 4>I think of the the Georgia game, how physical they were,

474
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<v Speaker 4>Sampto Ciro and their.

475
00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.839
<v Speaker 3>NBA prospect that.

476
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<v Speaker 4>You know, they they were just a presence and this

477
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 4>you know this team has a lot of experience, but

478
00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:29.759
<v Speaker 4>are they going to be able to match up against

479
00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.279
<v Speaker 4>physicality of the sec you know, to be seen well

480
00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:32.880
<v Speaker 4>and again.

481
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:35.119
<v Speaker 2>A sign and they can do it.

482
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<v Speaker 1>I think it is news conference last week. It might

483
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<v Speaker 1>have been you might have been there, Aaron Mark said.

484
00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Mari Williams is learning what he can get away with

485
00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, being more physical as an SEC's play.

486
00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.119
<v Speaker 2>He's played pretty well. He didn't have a game against,

487
00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:51.119
<v Speaker 2>but he's playing well before.

488
00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>As opposed to what he couldn't get away with a Drexel.

489
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<v Speaker 1>You get away with a lot more. Now, all right,

490
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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and talk more hoops right here on

491
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<v Speaker 1>the state wide bb I it is to say wide

492
00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>edition of the Big Woman's Side or Dick Gabrielle, Aren

493
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Gershwan Billy Rutledge talking about the Wildcats. They are lost

494
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<v Speaker 1>to Alabama. Now they move on and uh not this week,

495
00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.599
<v Speaker 1>but very shortly the Wildcats take on Arkansas next game.

496
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<v Speaker 1>When the schedule came.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Out, tickets, I don't need them, think too well, pony

498
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:27.480
<v Speaker 2>up who does?

499
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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's unfortunate is that people who want

500
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 1>tickets and are paying out the wazoo for them just

501
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they just want the opportunity now to rain down booze

502
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>on Caliperi, which isn't fair. Uh, and keep their fingers

503
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.720
<v Speaker 1>crossed it they'll lose another game. I don't know about you,

504
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.759
<v Speaker 1>but I'm stunned. I didn't think they'd win the conference.

505
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>You could have told me they'd missed the NSAY tournament,

506
00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:52.839
<v Speaker 2>like as a bubble team. You could tell me they'd

507
00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 2>be like toward the bottom of the SEC, but still,

508
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:57.160
<v Speaker 2>like you know, tenth range.

509
00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I thought they'd be in the top half. Yeah, I'm sure.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought. I'm saying like you.

511
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:04.039
<v Speaker 2>You could have told me that, and I probably say, okay,

512
00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:08.000
<v Speaker 2>but not this, notinzero to five getting crushed by Miszoo

513
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>losing at a bad LSU team. Uh, you know the

514
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 2>first three games. Yeah, they had a tough COP slate,

515
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 2>but they just got destroyed by Tennessee, not even competitive,

516
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>a place that Kentucky's played really well out the last

517
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.160
<v Speaker 2>two years with Cal. They won both times. So it's

518
00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:25.559
<v Speaker 2>not like Cal can't go and compete with Rick Barnes.

519
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:29.400
<v Speaker 2>It's it's pretty mind boggling how bad it's gotten, and

520
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.759
<v Speaker 2>it might get worse because boogiey Fland, unfortunately, which you

521
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:32.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to see, is hurt.

522
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<v Speaker 4>And they'll be booze and I think they're I mean,

523
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.960
<v Speaker 4>it's he went to a rival and decided to leave

524
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<v Speaker 4>this university.

525
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:42.119
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't forced out.

526
00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>But is that fair to boo a guy you wanted

527
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 1>to go him to go anyway he wanted him gone, Yeah,

528
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:51.119
<v Speaker 1>and he does what you want and you're booing him

529
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:51.920
<v Speaker 1>because of that. Yeah.

530
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<v Speaker 4>He went to a rival school in the same conference,

531
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:57.799
<v Speaker 4>and he brought the players that were committed to Kentucky

532
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:00.480
<v Speaker 4>to Arkansas with him. He went to the new school

533
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 4>and said, we will keep the band rolling because I

534
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:04.599
<v Speaker 4>am the lead singer.

535
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Kept calling it yeah, and then kept calling it cal

536
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>It's you know, we're just moving headquarters. It's calibery you

537
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>all those type of things.

538
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:13.599
<v Speaker 4>Now, will there be a day he comes back and

539
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 4>he's cheered and he will be raised to the rafters

540
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:18.119
<v Speaker 4>because he've won a title and he did a lot

541
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<v Speaker 4>for this universe.

542
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly wary.

543
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 3>First, he will be booed, and he will understand. He

544
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 3>will be.

545
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Booed every time he walks in here with that red

546
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.759
<v Speaker 2>blazer on. Did you notice he was wearing a blue blazers.

547
00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Fans were not Hog fans were not happy about that one.

548
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<v Speaker 1>I will respectfully disagree with Billy. We'll get back to

549
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>hog fans in a minute. I don't ever see him

550
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.599
<v Speaker 1>coming back here the way Patino did, I mean everything aligned.

551
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean Patino instantly won back. I'm betting ninety five

552
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:50.640
<v Speaker 1>percent of the Big Moon Nation it were still angry

553
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that he definitely took an arch rival job. I don't

554
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.839
<v Speaker 1>consider arkansa on arch rival anymore, but they're a conference rival.

555
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>To your point, used to be an arch r But

556
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Patino takes the Louisville job, and oh, Benedict Arnold Trader

557
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. Whereas my reaction to that was he

558
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>realized he wanted to be a Kentuckian just like us, right,

559
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.559
<v Speaker 1>so you know, uh could have taken a Michigan job

560
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and did for two hours and then changed his mind. Right,

561
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:24.279
<v Speaker 1>So anyhow he won everybody back.

562
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 3>How endorsing Mark Post endorsing Post exactly?

563
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<v Speaker 1>Do you see, CALIPERI? I mean, what could possibly happen

564
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 1>that someday five ten years from now happens that UK

565
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.319
<v Speaker 1>fans might say, Okay, we don't hate you as much anymore.

566
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And then of course when he came when Patino came back.

567
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<v Speaker 2>I think if they were to have a twenty year

568
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:52.240
<v Speaker 2>union for the twenty twelve team and twenty thirty two,

569
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>he would get all that. I really do, really I do.

570
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I do.

571
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Look, I wish he would.

572
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I think he will. I really do this fan base.

573
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, those banners mean something

574
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.359
<v Speaker 2>has years from now. Yeah, he's not lasting. I don't

575
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 2>know if he's less than two more years ago. And

576
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'll tell you this and you guys

577
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 2>have both said in Caliperry press conference, there's plenty of

578
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 2>them when he the last two and I watched just

579
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:20.920
<v Speaker 2>more so because I'm curious to see the questions being asked.

580
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>What not.

581
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.039
<v Speaker 2>He's answering the questions. That to me is like, Oh,

582
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 2>he's dejected, because usually when he's his swagg yim self,

583
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 2>he's bouncing around, he's saying what he wants to say. No,

584
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 2>he's answering the questions and he looks you can see

585
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 2>it on his face. I've never like, even after saying yeah,

586
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>even after Oakland, he was going on a whole tangent

587
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>like oh, I love helping families. I don't see his

588
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>change in blah blah blah blah blah. Same thing with

589
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>the Saint. Peter's like this is like this is getting

590
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>to him. He's taking it personally and it just seems

591
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>different and it seems real this time where maybe the

592
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 2>game and the way how you have to construct your

593
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>roster and the NIL portal stuff, it's just going over

594
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>his head. And that's okay. It's just it's almost it's

595
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 2>getting to the point where it's there was a lot

596
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of feeling bad for him out there,

597
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 2>and I never thought it was And you know.

598
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting Billy that towards the end here and I

599
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he thought the the end was near

600
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but he knew it was. He knew he

601
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 1>was in trouble. But then again, people forget that he

602
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 1>had the the sit down with with Barnard and had

603
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:30.599
<v Speaker 1>that uncomfortable.

604
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.359
<v Speaker 3>The strangest TV destroy poor Farmer.

605
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 1>There were so many there were so many great lines

606
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 1>about that, but one of them was like they looked

607
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 1>like somebody people who were in couples counseling and didn't

608
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>want to be there, yes, or like there was a

609
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 1>hostage situation or something like that. But I felt like

610
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>over the last few months of his last year here,

611
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to turn loose to what Aaron was

612
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>just talking about helping families. Look, that's a noble cause,

613
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but it seemed like like starting with

614
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 1>that night after five players were taken in the first round,

615
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>when he made it sound like he was more interested

616
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't putting kids in the NBA than winning championships.

617
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe he was more interested in one than

618
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.519
<v Speaker 1>the other, but it sounded like it, and I felt

619
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like down the stretch he was trying to make the

620
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>point that no, no, I really do want to win.

621
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I know how important it is to win titles. But

622
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 1>it was too late, man, because when you say, well,

623
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't really care about SEC titles, I can't tell

624
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you how many Kentucky fans.

625
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 4>And what a little house on the prairie was on Dick.

626
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean that was one of the reasons that I

627
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.279
<v Speaker 4>think the get home. Yeah, the allure kind of went

628
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 4>away with him. And I don't think it's controversial to

629
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 4>say that he thought this was a player's first program

630
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 4>when he was here. I mean, it was about helping

631
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.599
<v Speaker 4>the player maximize what they can do with their talent,

632
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 4>which means going to the end.

633
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't every coach do that?

634
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 4>Yes, But also I think think coaches should say in

635
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 4>public that their goal is to win, thank you exactly.

636
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 4>That is what he needed to say, and he never did,

637
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 4>and it was it was all about the players and

638
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 4>helping their families, a lot of them coming from poverty,

639
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 4>sure to get to that next level as quickly as possible.

640
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 4>Not to keep them in school to help Kentucky win championships.

641
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, now I stopped short of saying keep a kid

642
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>in school. I agree with him, and it shouldn't be

643
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>about helping him. It should be a bet helping the players,

644
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 1>helping themselves and their fans. If a kid, if they're

645
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>hearing from the NBA that this kid can get first

646
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>round money, then they need to go. You don't keep

647
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>them in school just to help yourself win a championship.

648
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh that was count PLoP.

649
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I think I think that.

650
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that's proper. But I do agree with you

651
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>in that he should, you know, he shouldn't make it

652
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 1>sound like and if we win, we win, you know,

653
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.119
<v Speaker 1>And to say, like I said, he totally misread the

654
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>room when he blew off the importance of winning the

655
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>SEC tournament or league because that's Kentucky basketball. I mean,

656
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's.

657
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>There was a quote from Darren Fox four years ago

658
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that resurfaced this to go off Billy's point. This was

659
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>literally from Darren Fox, so we can all think what

660
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>we think this was Cal cauld Win. Cal couldn't give

661
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:17.839
<v Speaker 2>a damn about winning college basketball games. If he's getting

662
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 2>guys who he knows he can end up developing into

663
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>NBA players. You were automatically going to win thirty games

664
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 2>a year from that alone. That's what I loved. Couldn't

665
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>give it damn.

666
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I read that, but I couldn't remember who said it.

667
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>One of his one and done.

668
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 1>But ironically enough, that was one of cala Perry's best teams. Absolutely, Oh,

669
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that team was excellent, and all the people and they

670
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>don't care about being a Kentucky and the players do

671
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>sobbing in the locker room.

672
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>There are into I'd say the vast majority of the

673
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>players care, passionate agree. There are definitely some that I'm

674
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 2>telling you I was in that locker room, Rob Bill,

675
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you sitting in that locker room last year.

676
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>If there was a guy who was totally unfazed about

677
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 2>the embarrassment that was losing to Oakland, it was that

678
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.599
<v Speaker 2>guy because he knew exactly what was happening. Reed Sheppard,

679
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>bawling his eyes out like you said with dearon Fox,

680
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 2>with Bam and Monk balling their eyes out. I remember

681
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>we were just talking about it off ten minutes ago.

682
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Oscar Shebay, who obviously he was a four year guy,

683
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but still a superstar. Here. He after they lost to

684
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>not probadence they be profits to Kansas State in Greensboro.

685
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 2>He was turned around in the locker room, faced away

686
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 2>from us for fifteen minutes before he could turn over

687
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 2>and show his face, and you could tell he was crying.

688
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>So it did matter to the players he had. But

689
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>it's fair. It's a fair criticism. Look, this Arkansas team

690
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.319
<v Speaker 2>that's zero to five in league play. Boogey Flann's probably

691
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 2>a lottery pick. He might have other draft picks on it.

692
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Like the talent's there again, it's just the x'es and o's,

693
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the roster construction aren't there. And that's what the fans

694
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day could not take anymore.

695
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 3>And I get it.

696
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 4>Complacency, I think is the part in this. After the

697
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 4>COVID year, you've you've heard that even former players like

698
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 4>Willie cony Stein have come out and said that he

699
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 4>was soft to the players in the later years because

700
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 4>you just have to talk to people differently. It's you know,

701
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 4>you hear Old saying it's like he's you become the

702
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 4>five people you spend the most time around. And I'm

703
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 4>not saying cal has become Bruiser Flint or Sinn Coleman

704
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 4>or Kenny Payne, but like look at like John Robick

705
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 4>leaving and the former ad or assistant A d Living

706
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.440
<v Speaker 4>that he was so close to Dwayne Peevee. I mean,

707
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 4>when you start to lose people that are valuable and

708
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 4>you think that you can just pick up their slack

709
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 4>by doing what you always did, I think that's it's

710
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 4>a wrong way going about it.

711
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Look at last year when he brought in John Welsh,

712
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I know he had some really good players. Ried Sheppard

713
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and Propdelling him helped a lot, but they had a

714
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>number three I think there were number three in offensive efficiency.

715
00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And then what does he do. He lets him go

716
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>to He doesn't take him to Arkansas whim. It goes

717
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>to President State and Arkansas's offense efficiencies in the one hundreds.

718
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I realized he goes to Fresno State

719
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>for a full time. I think he's a number two

720
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>guy on the staff. Yeah, I think so he would

721
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 1>have made more money here. He was want to go

722
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>volunteer assistant or whatever he was.

723
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>He was a well he was volunteer, but he was

724
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, they expanded the coaching staff. He was the

725
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>extra and now right now they can all recruit.

726
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to tell me they couldn't have made

727
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 1>him that at Arkansas?

728
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 2>And yes, and he would have made more money as

729
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 2>that at Arkansas as he would be the number two.

730
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was that was a puzzleman.

731
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 4>And young and talented guys like Jay Lucas or TJ. Bisnerly,

732
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 4>We're like, what do you take position for? At a difference?

733
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Lucas was going home Jay Lucas from Texas, family in Carolina. Yeah,

734
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that I get. But yeah, and uh, TJ. I thought

735
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was going to be named We all knew TJ and

736
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>liked him. I thought, like a lot of programs, he

737
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>might actually be named the GM. A program that needs

738
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Every program now needs a GM. And I don't know

739
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>anything about the inner dynamics. There's no we all know

740
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 1>DJ wasn't real happy here and now he's very happy

741
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:15.039
<v Speaker 1>at North Carolina.

742
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>You want two more examples? Joel Justice went to a

743
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 2>final four last year. Now he's the number two in

744
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State.

745
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And not I kept hearing on him was he was

746
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.679
<v Speaker 1>not an effective recruiter. Didn't you hear that?

747
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I heard, Yeah, he wasn't, but I heard he was

748
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.719
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good x's and o's coach and they weren't

749
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>a final four last year. And he's the number two

750
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State who they x ade xod X. You know

751
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>coached Mark Pope, that's for darn sure on that Saturday.

752
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, Tony Barbie was a guy that

753
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 2>he kind of set up with a coaching job. There

754
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of talk that he was going to

755
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 2>let him go and that Barbie kind of just he

756
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>was the MAC Coach of.

757
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 3>The Year last year.

758
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 2>So like these coaches are going and outside of Kenny Payne,

759
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 2>who was a disaster and now is back with cal

760
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>where they're a.

761
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Disaster, but he was one of the most highly respected

762
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>offense or assistants when he was here.

763
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, Kenny Payne may have actually been a plant that

764
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.119
<v Speaker 4>little more I think about how wow that was.

765
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a theory I have not yet heard. Billy.

766
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Speaker 3>That's outs did you tear down from the inside? Are

767
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.519
<v Speaker 3>Louisville fans were anyone those games that yours?

768
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Did you come up with that?

769
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's just general.

770
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Credits to pack Kelsey for already having two more wins

771
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>than Kenny had.

772
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:24.480
<v Speaker 3>In two years all time wins.

773
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Amazing, No, all serious, it's doing great.

774
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>But all right, we'll take a break, come back, and

775
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>kareem back to Kentucky basketball. Ohio State just took a

776
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>fourteen to seven lead. We're back in a minute on

777
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the state Wide BBI final segment of the state wide

778
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider, did Gabrielle Arren Gershwan, Billy Rutledge is Kentucky.

779
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's get back to this Kentucky team's most people

780
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying BBN, I'm saying media, national, local kind of

781
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 1>predicted Kentucky to finish middle of the pack and happily.

782
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 1>So like if if they can, you know, break even

783
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in the SEC, if they're they're five hundred in the SEC,

784
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>they can get in the NC Tournament, maybe win a

785
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>game or two, which tells you how far Kentucky had

786
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>sunk in at least any estimation of the people talking. Clearly,

787
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it looks like they'll be better than that. But I

788
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>guess the question I'm posing is how much better than

789
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that do you think they'll be at the end of

790
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the year. You know, I want to ask you for

791
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 1>how many games over five hundred? But did we underestimate them?

792
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess is the question, And we had every right

793
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to because who knew anything about hard right victim? Yeah?

794
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 3>That and how good the SEC is this year as well.

795
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 4>I think that played a factor into just not knowing

796
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 4>what this unknown Kentucky group would do. I'm gonna put

797
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 4>them close to the double by seed. I guess four

798
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 4>or five in the SEC tournament. I think that's about

799
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.079
<v Speaker 4>fair with what we've seen.

800
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's big.

801
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 4>What you were five and oher in your first five

802
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 4>games versus top fifteen teams before the loss most recently,

803
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 4>So I mean that's impressive. I mean, that's going to

804
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.559
<v Speaker 4>show up and help when it comes to your overall

805
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:07.920
<v Speaker 4>turney seed line. But when it comes to the SEC,

806
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 4>I just I hope they can hold court at home,

807
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.719
<v Speaker 4>because if so, then maybe they will be right around

808
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 4>that four or five seed.

809
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 2>So when I did my game by game predictions earlier

810
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>this year, I said twenty three and nine and then

811
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.119
<v Speaker 2>twelve and six, in the league, which is pretty good.

812
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Honestly for a first year. The games I've I've had

813
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>some wrong. Like I had them losing the Duke. I

814
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>had them beating Ohio State, for example.

815
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>So that week there with Duke and Zaga, Yeah, I

816
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 1>almost everybody had it.

817
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I heard them going, oh in two that week, did

818
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>you really cleanse it in?

819
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

820
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 2>But besides the point, yeah, I'm gonna stick with it.

821
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I think they could go finish twelve and six in

822
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>the league. Okay, I think that honestly, Like this league

823
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>is very hard. But they've gotten Florida out of the way,

824
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>they got one of their Alabama games out of the way.

825
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 2>A and M's out of the way, Georgia's out of

826
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the way, so Ode win. They got a road win

827
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 2>at State, so you're looking at it. Ole Miss is

828
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>still there. That's a really tough one. Another one with Bama.

829
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 2>The two with Tennessee, though.

830
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 3>I think they match up well with Tennessee.

831
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not, even with the physicality when I

832
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 2>saw Vandy light them up put forty two in the

833
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>first half. I think they match up fine with Vandy.

834
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Missouri is a tough one, but you know, Oklahoma is

835
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 2>not great. South Carolina is the worst team in the conference. Arkansas,

836
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I think I've just Arkansas. That's going to be Arkansas

837
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>super Bowl. But I still think Kentucky's a much better

838
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>team and wins that game. I could I see still

839
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>see a path to that to where they finished twelve

840
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and six.

841
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:25.159
<v Speaker 3>In the league.

842
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>That maybe that's not give or take. I could see

843
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>them definitely finish, you know, maybe eleven and seven, ten

844
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 2>and or I guess would be nine in eight possibly.

845
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>But I just think I think they're in a good spot.

846
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<v Speaker 2>I really do. And what I've been really impressed with

847
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 2>is every time they've kind of had a situation like

848
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 2>the defensive rebounding where Mark Pope is harped on it

849
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and really been tough on it, they've come out the

850
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.639
<v Speaker 2>next couple of games and really improved. And I really

851
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 2>like that kind of now like the blueprint changes, it's

852
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>not like the same issue every year. So I'm encouraged

853
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's very possible.

854
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the great things. You've got to

855
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>figure that Cali Perry with a lot of youngsters, but

856
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 1>he's got veterans on that dark and that surprised me

857
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:11.800
<v Speaker 1>to move the two highest pay players in the portal.

858
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Not to harp on Cali Perry, but his best Kentucky

859
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>teams were a mixture of veterans and the precocious freshman,

860
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 1>which is what he has now. Billy. What I think

861
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>is interesting to Aaron's point is that he's got veteran

862
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 1>players who know how to be coached. You know what

863
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean when they said about to teach them something,

864
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 1>They've played enough college basketball to be able to assimilate

865
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that into their respective games so they can put it

866
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to good use right away. I think that's huge, And

867
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't see that in college basketball now because everybody's

868
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>so young.

869
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Right right.

870
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.199
<v Speaker 4>It's different when you've got a senior that beat Fau

871
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.239
<v Speaker 4>in the Final four with a game winning shot, or

872
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Andrew Carr who's been around the ACC for a while.

873
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.159
<v Speaker 4>The bye week kind of hits at the right time.

874
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 4>We don't have a midweek game this week, and oh

875
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 4>they need this his car and his old bad back

876
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 4>lamon Butler shoulder, who is just getting hurt every single.

877
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>See the memes somebody put out with somebody in a

878
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:16.679
<v Speaker 1>wheelchair completely covered head to toe complete Yeah.

879
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.239
<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, that and you know Kirk Risa doesn't look

880
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 4>like his timetable is out there yet with what Mark

881
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 4>Pope was saying yet, So maybe it's the thing that

882
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 4>Mark Pope can't control that would be end up hurting

883
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 4>them the most just being healthy.

884
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was about to say this is you know,

885
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 1>we're we're the discussion we're having is presumed that they

886
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>remain relatively healthy.

887
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this week is huge, And that's another sign with

888
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.159
<v Speaker 2>this team that I love is these guys got it

889
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 2>out right. You don't want to see them obviously re

890
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 2>injure themselves or make things worse, but there's no like,

891
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 2>no doubt they're going to try to give it a go.

892
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>We're with the freshman and you're kind of protecting these

893
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 2>guys for the league. It felt like at times if

894
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>there was a hesitancy, it felt like those guys were

895
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 2>sitting and you're not seeing that. Here, you're seeing guys

896
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:02.679
<v Speaker 2>that want to go and play for Kentucky.

897
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.199
<v Speaker 1>We're fifty five minutes into the show and granted we

898
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:06.639
<v Speaker 1>talk a lot of football in the first half, we

899
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>haven't talked about Jackson Robinson yet, and I think we've

900
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>learned now that what he did on his big breakout

901
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 1>night wasn't a fluke. No, you know, he's had I

902
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you want to call it a come

903
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to Jesus or you know, whatever you want to call it.

904
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he is tapped into something that he knows

905
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 1>now he can count on. I agree.

906
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I think he's kind of let that NBA pressure, all

907
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the pressure kind of roll off his shoulders a little bit.

908
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 2>And he's playing much better. And I even thought, you know,

909
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have a great game against Alabama, but even

910
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>when he was missing shots or he was in foul trouble,

911
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought, the body language is better, which is very encouraging.

912
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 4>And be where your feet are is a mark Pope

913
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 4>saying for which Jackson Robinson needs to think of.

914
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:50.280
<v Speaker 3>But his confidence is the number one thing.

915
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.000
<v Speaker 4>He needs to be one of those shooters that does

916
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.199
<v Speaker 4>not think about the last shot, because I feel like

917
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 4>I've seen his behavior, his body language take over his games.

918
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.480
<v Speaker 4>And compared to a A and M Mississippi State game

919
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 4>where he goes for twenty two and twenty eight back

920
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 4>to back.

921
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know who I heard first say that, be

922
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 1>where your feet are? That's pretty good Eddie Grant when

923
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:14.159
<v Speaker 1>he was the OC here. But that's one of those

924
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 1>sayings that Pope embraces fully. And he's got a lot

925
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of sayings.

926
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Like that, doesn't Someone needs to make a Pope dictionary

927
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 2>with all the sayings.

928
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.679
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, there was What is a Bellerman cut? Do

929
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 1>we know?

930
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing it's got to be something with how Bellermant?

931
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I know Bellermint has a crazy unique offense.

932
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 4>Is that like the Ivy League playbook where they do

933
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 4>a lot of backdoor cut Princeton.

934
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 2>That may depending on the flow of Thursday's press conference,

935
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that might have to be a.

936
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Question that would be interesting because we could reach out

937
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to Scotty Davenport coach.

938
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

939
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 1>It's a good dude, man.

940
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 3>Did you have any idea that Mark Pope's using the

941
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 3>Pope is.

942
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Using assuming are there any other Bellerman's out there?

943
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know it's got it's gotta be something.

944
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>But the first college basketball game I ever saw College

945
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Scott he's a good dude, and you know the opposing

946
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>team was this team from Lexingon. I did see some

947
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>TRANSI like Transylvania. That's a real school. You know they

948
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>wore striped socks. I remember that, all right? Thanks to

949
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Billy Thanks Daron, Thanks to you for joining us in

950
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the state wide BBI that said good night from lexingon