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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, we're back. We're back. Welcome back to Sorry
Speaker 1: for Asking.
Speaker 2: I'm Cole Connor, I'm Adam Ramsey, and our guest here
Speaker 2: is Gosh. He's he's uh, he's an icon, He's a Jesus.
Speaker 1: She's ready crossed her legs.
Speaker 2: His pronouns are he. But we're gonna say is here
Speaker 2: living with us? Living Michael Boston.
Speaker 3: Living with Hello, Michael Boston, Welcome, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: How are you today?
Speaker 3: I'm magical. Today's a magical day in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: You know, say, I wanted to hang. I've been wanting
Speaker 2: to have you on this for a while because you're
Speaker 2: someone that I have actually become friends with in this industry,
Speaker 2: and I feel like you're my sister.
Speaker 1: I mean Gemini virgo? Honey, is that a thing? They
Speaker 1: say that?
Speaker 3: Apparently the Virgo is the twin of Gemini, and Gemini
Speaker 3: is like the twin sign. Yeah, so like we're both
Speaker 3: ruled by mercury life for too long. I'm we're a flannel?
Speaker 1: Is that true? What makes him part lesbian?
Speaker 3: I don't have a tool bell, flannel, don't have a
Speaker 3: tool belt or birkenstocks, but I'm working on it.
Speaker 2: Too fabulous to be a lesbians could be fabulous, I know,
Speaker 2: let's not make over. I feel like I, first of all, disclaimer,
Speaker 2: I feel like I've said some things that seem anti lesbian,
Speaker 2: and I really need sometimes when.
Speaker 3: You're calling or saying a broad statement, it's out of love.
Speaker 2: Sure, yes, it's just an observation that honestly, well you know, no,
Speaker 2: we love all in the community all the way too.
Speaker 3: Oh goddamn, especially in this time. What do you have
Speaker 3: in your your art deco notebook?
Speaker 2: My art deco notebook? Oh yes, all that way. The
Speaker 2: little story, A little backstory about this, please This my
Speaker 2: sibling gave me for Hanukkah in nineteen ninety four as
Speaker 2: a journal.
Speaker 1: This actual things, a book that's older than me.
Speaker 4: Wow, shut your mouth, shut your stupid filthy hormones.
Speaker 2: Year I was twelve, so I was in my way school.
Speaker 2: I was like, cool, I'll use it as a journal.
Speaker 2: Look how much is ripped out and torn to shreds
Speaker 2: because I didn't want anybody to find what I had
Speaker 2: been writing? What had you been writing stuff about me?
Speaker 2: And I was very insecure in middle school and like,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure, I'm sure someone did breach the pages
Speaker 2: the social concept or maybe I felt like maybe my
Speaker 2: mom took a peek at it or something as like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, would you read your kids like just
Speaker 2: so if you?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: I felt like shut. I felt like very I shut
Speaker 2: myself off at that time, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: Talk about it.
Speaker 3: I don't see why reading your diaries any better? Yeah,
Speaker 3: do you mean my child already doesn't trust you?
Speaker 1: Something?
Speaker 2: I know? But so like I so, I felt, I
Speaker 2: guess I should. I guess. I felt like it was
Speaker 2: possible that they would go to this behind my back
Speaker 2: to try to get something, to try to understand something
Speaker 2: about me. I don't know, maybe, And so I was like,
Speaker 2: I definite in different garbage cans in case they were, what's.
Speaker 3: The point of the journal, then if you're going to
Speaker 3: tear it out and throw it.
Speaker 2: Away, Well, I wrote it. I do morning pages.
Speaker 1: I already got it out.
Speaker 2: I got it out morning. I do morning pages. I
Speaker 2: would never look back at those, like I write three
Speaker 2: pages every day and then mom, Yeah, okay, well maybe
Speaker 2: one day, maybe.
Speaker 3: One day, one day when you're gonna look back on
Speaker 3: the old days or you'll publish them.
Speaker 2: Yes, But anyway, let's get back to you. So anyway,
Speaker 2: since we were talking about diary, did you ever have
Speaker 2: one growing up, like when you were a kid.
Speaker 1: I probably had a couple. Yeah, what did you have
Speaker 1: to hide? Being born in the nineties?
Speaker 3: Masturbating when I was eighteen eighteen? Is that when you
Speaker 3: started Mormon? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you actually talk about that? I talk about that
Speaker 2: another Mormon guest because the other one we have had
Speaker 2: men Mormons are very gay.
Speaker 1: We have had like the I love doing porn.
Speaker 3: I know they do. I don't know why. Tell us
Speaker 3: what it was like growing up more? Where was it
Speaker 3: in like rural Utah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was a true Utah Mormon.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I wasn't born in Utah, it was.
Speaker 3: I lived in several different places before then, and I
Speaker 3: don't look on those memories fondly, and I don't like
Speaker 3: to talk about them, but I'll talk about them for
Speaker 3: for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2: I guess we're asking you to all you have.
Speaker 3: I don't know what just sucked.
Speaker 1: Did you have Jeff's siblings?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a twin brother and then a younger sister.
Speaker 1: A twin brother. Is he gay? Straight?
Speaker 3: Is a faggot? Yeah, he's a homosexual.
Speaker 1: We have a relationship with him now.
Speaker 3: He lives in Jersey City and he and my mom
Speaker 3: just bought a house like together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of cute, so she must be accepting. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's cool for home, She's always been cool.
Speaker 3: No, she was fucking having sex at a wedlock. Okay,
Speaker 3: she's a fucking horror. Oh yeah, there's no one in
Speaker 3: my family that has a fucking leg to stand on
Speaker 3: about anything. Were all at the church so wonderful?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, God, how about your dad? Are you guys close
Speaker 1: to him? Well?
Speaker 3: I didn't grow up with my biological dad. Okay, I
Speaker 3: didn't learn that till I was thirteen. I have a
Speaker 3: weird mess of a life.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Sure's whatever you want to share forever Okay, give us
Speaker 3: the cliffs notes basically, Okay, well, no, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I can tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I have some leading questions.
Speaker 1: Yes, leave me daddy.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when and how do you feel like you
Speaker 2: got out of that life? And did you go to school?
Speaker 2: Like did you when did you leave the church?
Speaker 3: I guess I was kind of done. When I was
Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen, my brother and I moved to sall like
Speaker 3: we lived in the town what was it, a condo
Speaker 3: in Salt Lake City together and we were going to
Speaker 3: the I think it was the University of Utah, and
Speaker 3: nonither of us lasted longer than like a semester because
Speaker 3: it was dumb and stupid and we didn't want to
Speaker 3: pay all this money to go to school and like
Speaker 3: being all this debt and bullshit. But anyway, it's a
Speaker 3: different conversation. I was said nineteen then like nineteen twenty
Speaker 3: I started having sex, and then like three guys on
Speaker 3: a Wednesday was normal for me.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, three guys on Wednesday was normal.
Speaker 3: Well, like you know what I mean, Like I was
Speaker 3: having lots of sex.
Speaker 1: So you hit the ground, right, how did Yeah?
Speaker 2: So, were you using apps to find guys. I was
Speaker 2: credits personals, craitless personal Yeah, okay, so that's a little
Speaker 2: nod to the Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, it was like the very end of it, I feel,
Speaker 3: because I remember when I moved to Florida a couple
Speaker 3: of years later, it was like down, they got rid
Speaker 3: of it. When I moved to Florida. I think that
Speaker 3: was in twenty No, twenty seventeen. When to Florida tway seventeen,
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, yeah, pay seventeen.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, all right, good times. Wasn't a really difficult
Speaker 1: time coming out for you.
Speaker 3: I never really came out. I just kind of just
Speaker 3: was like, I'm just gonna flaunt what I'm doing in
Speaker 3: front of everyone, and then if they don't like it, great,
Speaker 3: and if they do, who cares.
Speaker 2: Did you ever have a conversation like with your mom
Speaker 2: or your brother?
Speaker 3: Like, did you ever My mom told me when I
Speaker 3: was thirteen if I was if I was gay, it
Speaker 3: was okay, And of course, being a little thirteen year
Speaker 3: old faggot who was still going to church, like no,
Speaker 3: I'm not like you know.
Speaker 2: But she saw it. She could see the pain of
Speaker 2: coorse she did.
Speaker 1: She could see the pain. Yeah, my mom only.
Speaker 3: My mom probably only went back to church when after
Speaker 3: she had my brother and I because it was kind
Speaker 3: of an ultimatum to keep us so because she had
Speaker 3: us as a single mother in England in like their
Speaker 3: mid nineties.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I forgot you were born in England.
Speaker 1: Were born in England. You haven't lived there for a time.
Speaker 1: I looked there for like two years.
Speaker 3: My mom's American Italian, so she wanted to get out
Speaker 3: of the UK as as she could because she loves America.
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's all I mean.
Speaker 3: Back back then, back then, America was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, the nineties we get a little
Speaker 2: bit more home of phobic, to be more homophobic now again.
Speaker 2: But I think not as a people, not as Americans.
Speaker 2: I think it's a weird regime thing. Yeah, sure, we.
Speaker 3: Need to go down there. We don't want to.
Speaker 4: Clinton era was when America was comfortable being America.
Speaker 1: As it was at the time. Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also kind.
Speaker 3: Of like Clinton a little bit too, because he didn't
Speaker 3: really help in a lot of ways. I mean, like
Speaker 3: they say Reagan was really bad, and yes he was,
Speaker 3: but also Clinton did some ship that like really escalated
Speaker 3: a lot of bullshit with our situation. Now, well, he
Speaker 3: was the one that really like put the jobs across
Speaker 3: the seas.
Speaker 2: He protective protected it like designated.
Speaker 3: Like rural towns and like Middle America. And that's why,
Speaker 3: like now they don't ever vote Democrats ever again because
Speaker 3: it fucked them up.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, wow, Okay, you're.
Speaker 3: Got what it's called. But it's a thing.
Speaker 2: Let me. I wanted to ask, because we usually asked
Speaker 2: this of our guests, what was your introduction to porn? Like,
Speaker 2: as far as the consumer, do you remember the first?
Speaker 3: So when I was thirteen thirteen, it was between twelve is,
Speaker 3: between sixth grade and seventh grade, I looked up boys
Speaker 3: kissing who didn't and I got in trouble. So I
Speaker 3: go touch my bishop and like I thought, I had
Speaker 3: like a porn addiction because like every summer I would
Speaker 3: get bored and horny. I would just look up boys
Speaker 3: kissing whatever. And that's back when YouTube they had a
Speaker 3: wholesome boys Yeah, boys kissing, Like I was just yeah,
Speaker 3: like a girl. No, like you know, like when you're
Speaker 3: you're a young horny boy, when like just watching like
Speaker 3: hot kissing just gets you just hard. Now I'm like whatever,
Speaker 3: like who cares, Like where's the fisting? Not kidding? Why
Speaker 3: why is he telling him he loves him? That's gross?
Speaker 2: But yeah, you don't see that important.
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you, love you fuck me,
Speaker 1: it's rare.
Speaker 3: He gently lays you down and like a bed of roads.
Speaker 2: That would be love. I just love triangle through friendship
Speaker 2: love triangle.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, just very soft lesbian porn, like constantly and
Speaker 3: every second can I touch you here?
Speaker 2: Can I still touch you? Is it okay?
Speaker 3: Are you saying she just snack oils to drink, But
Speaker 3: basically yeah, like twelve but it wasn't really porn. And
Speaker 3: then after that whole experience of like basically being told
Speaker 3: porn is bad and like trying to like shove down
Speaker 3: my homosexuality and pretend like I wasn't gay and hoping
Speaker 3: it was a phase. Come Florida. When I moved to Florida,
Speaker 3: and basically right before I started doing porn, when I
Speaker 3: started being like, you know what, porn's kind of hot
Speaker 3: and I started drinking.
Speaker 2: On where in Florida.
Speaker 3: I first lived in Lakeland, Florida, which is it's in
Speaker 3: between Tampa and Orlando. It's actually a really big area.
Speaker 2: But it's inland.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, we lived in inland because we didn't want hurricanes.
Speaker 1: Who want some?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well because the think about hurricanes is the
Speaker 3: worst part of hurricane. I mean, yes, the wind, but
Speaker 3: like also the storm surge. Yeah yeah, yeah, so like
Speaker 3: if you me, yeah, kind of not really. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know what kind of yeah it is, but it isn't.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: I feel like a spoiled California hearing this. This was
Speaker 4: never something, if at all.
Speaker 2: A tsunami thing, but nothing happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like just some high tide and you're holding on.
Speaker 1: Growing up. For the most part, earthquakes were like kind
Speaker 1: of exciting. It was like, oh my god, it was
Speaker 1: just the north were like oh, I think.
Speaker 3: I felt one once with my dog when I first
Speaker 3: got her last year. But then, like I could have
Speaker 3: been high. I don't know your last year. When I
Speaker 3: got my dog last year, I felt one. I thought
Speaker 3: I felt one, Okay.
Speaker 2: I used to feel them in my apartment on King's
Speaker 2: Road in West Hollywood because I was up a little
Speaker 2: building and I was like up. Then I'd feel like
Speaker 2: I kind of feel it waving and I'd be like,
Speaker 2: lose is how I'm gonna die? And I'd stand under
Speaker 2: the doorway and then it would pass.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Really but yeah, and then I'd get online, and then
Speaker 2: I'd get online and go to stupid. I'd go to
Speaker 2: did you feel it? Dot com?
Speaker 1: Oh really, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Right, I get like the noto vocations on my ring
Speaker 3: doorbell thing?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I didn't. We didn't have abs like that.
Speaker 2: But when I lived on Kings, wait, did you feel it?
Speaker 2: I lived on Kings for fourteen years, but you.
Speaker 1: Lived on Kings when I first moved here.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, when was that there were ring doorbells? That was
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: You moved here in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: That was my last year on King. I know, I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember sucking you in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was very excited too because I knew about you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you were fresh because you yeah fresh. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was very excited. It was like you. I I
Speaker 2: had guys that I knew about that I wanted to
Speaker 2: work with that I suddenly gained access to by having
Speaker 2: an only a fan. So I was like, okay, he
Speaker 2: was so and he was ne The first one, the
Speaker 2: first porn guy that I collapseds was JJ Knight, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, and actually one of the what
Speaker 2: a porn scene that I know you from that I
Speaker 2: love is from Hot Rock Confessions.
Speaker 1: It's New Rock Confessions and J J.
Speaker 2: Knight and Alex Makeham and they suck you sauna time.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of that was fun.
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's a studio okay, which brings
Speaker 2: me to what was your first studio scene? And you've
Speaker 2: told me I give you.
Speaker 3: I gave you more than I give people, more than.
Speaker 1: They bargain for all the time. In what way? I
Speaker 1: don't know? And in this case, in what way?
Speaker 3: Because he because he asked what was your first studio scene?
Speaker 1: But like, there's just so much more nuance. We like
Speaker 1: the nuance.
Speaker 2: We want nothing to be ashamed.
Speaker 3: Of ashamed, you know. I just don't want to give
Speaker 3: people too much because it's.
Speaker 1: Like, do you mean too much information or too much?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Let me just answer and then he can yelling you
Speaker 3: if you want to, okay. Chapter one. It was back
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. I was I just started doing porn.
Speaker 3: I had it, so I got an agent in January.
Speaker 3: I don't think he even does agent shit anymore.
Speaker 2: You did porn before, you did studio Born before only
Speaker 2: fans exist.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I come from a dancing background, so like,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, I love a studio, I love
Speaker 3: I love a structure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a production.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yes, yes, so yes, So I started at this.
Speaker 3: It was It's broke straight boys is twenty eighteen when
Speaker 3: you were living in February. I was living in Lakeland, Florida.
Speaker 1: How did how did they find you through my agent?
Speaker 1: So you made the decision I want to do porn.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get an agent so I can do
Speaker 1: studio porn. Yeah. And the first thing that they got
Speaker 1: you was this broke. I was very thin.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was tinky tinky. Yes, yeah, now it happens.
Speaker 2: You're at eight at what hell?
Speaker 3: I was twenty two, Yes, twing Twink at Best Yes
Speaker 3: on a good day.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was like Twink. I was twin Water at
Speaker 1: Best Water over here.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I did like five things for them because
Speaker 3: they're one of those I don't even know what they
Speaker 3: do anymore. On the take didn't exist?
Speaker 1: Okay, how was that experience? It was great? It was easy.
Speaker 1: Who was your first don't partner?
Speaker 3: Don't remember their names because none of them matter.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to say, but I'll say, well.
Speaker 3: They're broke, straight boys, and I was. I was there
Speaker 3: because I wanted to be amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and were you yes? Did you feel like you delivered?
Speaker 1: I am now, of course I was. So you took
Speaker 1: to it like a duck to water, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: What I was doing? Yeah, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3: I had lots of training and having sex, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean three guys like every day basically like I
Speaker 3: was having lots of sex. When first started having sex.
Speaker 2: Do you consider yourself now I'm slowing down, It was
Speaker 2: like none, it happened.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't had sex in a minute. I remember
Speaker 3: the last person touched me.
Speaker 2: If you feel like, did you ever think that maybe
Speaker 2: you had a sex addiction? No? I was just really horny, it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I didn't ever cont I was eighteen too. What how
Speaker 3: I was Mormon. They don't let you masturbate, and you
Speaker 3: followed these I didn't know how. Oh baby, I never
Speaker 3: touched myself because I was a devout Mormon.
Speaker 1: Okay, what I want to.
Speaker 3: Know, I wasn't until I was living on my own
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 1: It was pause.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I need to know what was that first experience. Like,
Speaker 4: tell us about the first time we came at eighteen
Speaker 4: hands free doing sit ups.
Speaker 1: Explain tell us this story.
Speaker 3: I was doing ups in my room because I was
Speaker 3: in ballet class, and they would they wouldn't shoot on
Speaker 3: the boys and little dramatic, but they would tell the
Speaker 3: boys be strong, so you can let the girls. The
Speaker 3: girls roll two pounds and like this is easy whatever,
Speaker 3: who cares? But anyway, I was being a diligent dancer
Speaker 3: and a student, so I was doing sit ups in
Speaker 3: my room and I probably used my pelic floor muscles
Speaker 3: in a weird way by accident, oop to Daisy, and
Speaker 3: I came all over myself hands free doing sit ups.
Speaker 1: What wow? And what did you think when that happened.
Speaker 3: I knew what it was. I've taken sex ed and
Speaker 3: all the child avelopment classes and ship so like I
Speaker 3: knew what it was. But I was like, oh no,
Speaker 3: oh sinn. Then I was like scared. I would do
Speaker 3: sit ups for for evil Satan.
Speaker 4: Satan? So then, so did you did you like follow?
Speaker 4: Were you like, I'm going to try this again?
Speaker 3: I tried to not. Oh yeah, no, I was constantly
Speaker 3: coming doing setups. Yet at that point, Wow, can you
Speaker 3: do it now? No, No, I'm too sensitized. She's just
Speaker 3: been funny so many times in the ass, like the
Speaker 3: pellic floor is gone.
Speaker 2: What if I can remember you don't have a trouble,
Speaker 2: you don't have a hard time coming.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I think is a good thing for a
Speaker 2: performer to have.
Speaker 1: It's kind of what gets you hired. It's not a require.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I feel like so many times now I'm
Speaker 2: working with these twinks that can't can't sove off. It
Speaker 2: just takes them.
Speaker 3: I don't know why they keep hiring. But you know what, whatever,
Speaker 3: they got a fine shots all the time.
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 3: You know what, Let it all burn?
Speaker 1: Who cares? Let it all burn? Let what all burn?
Speaker 1: To say?
Speaker 2: I think you know what I mean, you know what
Speaker 2: we're gonna get. We're gonna get to that. No, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get all right, let's keep.
Speaker 1: The train on the tracks.
Speaker 3: Okay, Sorry, I'm really going to do railing.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Sorry, let's let's try not to talk.
Speaker 1: And I know when I do that to you, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: It's okay, Okay, I know we're we're all doing it
Speaker 2: because we're excited to talk.
Speaker 3: We're to be here, just three faggots with a lot
Speaker 3: of say, what has.
Speaker 2: Been your favorite studio to work for or the least
Speaker 2: the one that you hated least?
Speaker 1: The hate comes.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, the hate comes later.
Speaker 3: I hate the hate. Well, maybe not hate, but it's
Speaker 3: like a little bit of.
Speaker 1: Sadness, a little bit of like hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked all of them.
Speaker 3: I liked all of them for the most part. Each
Speaker 3: one had their their their pluses and minuses, Like you
Speaker 3: know any any place you work.
Speaker 2: But you've done a lot of scenes over.
Speaker 3: They apparently have done three hundred and seventy one movies.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. You tell someone told me that
Speaker 2: you have a good book of work, a solid book
Speaker 2: of work. What studio consistently does a good job with you?
Speaker 4: I feel, or that you had a best time with
Speaker 4: Maybe I feel like.
Speaker 3: Falcon was the gayest, which was fun, like you feel
Speaker 3: Falcon was the gayest for me, everyone was gay, like
Speaker 3: you didn't feel like it didn't feel weird, and even
Speaker 3: like like it didn't feel weird being there and being homosexual.
Speaker 3: And then other studios like I felt like almost in
Speaker 3: a mask up and like they would always hire these
Speaker 3: shitty nothing against I guess gayer payers in some respects
Speaker 3: shapes and forms. But when you have these gayer payers
Speaker 3: that are kind of shitty and you know, they're probably
Speaker 3: getting paid five times as much as you, and they're
Speaker 3: not really like giving their all and you're doing all
Speaker 3: the work, that's when I have a problem.
Speaker 1: And did that happen a lot with Stern Studios?
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them are still working now. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 3: she's moving on to bigger and better things.
Speaker 1: And were you mistreated ever? I feel like that is mistreatment.
Speaker 1: What is mistreatment?
Speaker 3: Being told being told that you should be so lucky
Speaker 3: because you're a faggot to fuck these like hot straight guys,
Speaker 3: but like they're straight and you almost feel like you're
Speaker 3: raping them.
Speaker 1: Were you explicitly told them?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was told that by studio people or by the performers.
Speaker 4: Studio people like, wow, seriously, that's so gross.
Speaker 1: I could name them. I'm not going to. Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't have.
Speaker 3: It was in Montreal, just say that, so I'll say
Speaker 3: it for you. Anyway, did she even do anything anymore?
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with any of these
Speaker 3: studios anymore. I'm so in the dark.
Speaker 2: It's so Montrealmen dot Com is based in Montreal, and
Speaker 2: they do hire a lot of straight men from these.
Speaker 3: Stupid strip clubs. Why can't you hire some good faggot.
Speaker 3: Stop bringing in these new pieces of ship. You already
Speaker 3: have good gay talent.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like the straight talent that
Speaker 2: I worked with in Montreal, they were good performers.
Speaker 3: You and I probably have a different we have different Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know standards, but I felt.
Speaker 2: Like they, I mean, we one of them. I'm a
Speaker 2: bitch if I can't remember his name. This one guy,
Speaker 2: we were shooting at this house and we were waiting
Speaker 2: for the other scene to be uh finished shooting before
Speaker 2: our scenes start started, and then we and we got
Speaker 2: a chance to talk and I just kind of like
Speaker 2: we kind of had a discussion that was nice and
Speaker 2: it made it made the scene go better, like where
Speaker 2: it was just stuck us stuck in a room together
Speaker 2: and we had to talk. So I think it made
Speaker 2: us a little more comfortable, him a little more comfortable
Speaker 2: with me, and me a little more comfortable with him.
Speaker 2: So it worked out. But that doesn't always happen, especially
Speaker 2: with and sometimes they have their girlfriend there and they're
Speaker 2: hanging out with them the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's just so weird.
Speaker 3: I'm like, why don't you just do straight porn? Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't get it. I don't understand why.
Speaker 2: They don't do get paid lessons straight but.
Speaker 3: They work a lot, so it kind of deepens out,
Speaker 3: like I don't understand, and it's so confusing and weird
Speaker 3: to me. I don't know, I don't get it because
Speaker 3: I don't know whatever whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm so upset he has to move the pillow.
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Speaker 1: Look at this hair, you guys. Isn't she stunning? Gorgeous?
Speaker 1: She's okay, just beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's almost like it was never the moment. I know.
Speaker 3: It's almost like I'm just a Eurotic piece of shit.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you were a joy to work with.
Speaker 3: I actually am. I might have a big mouth, a
Speaker 3: little bit of a cunt. But you know what I
Speaker 3: come in. I do my job.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you've done fo hundred movies, there must
Speaker 4: be she's almost four hundred movies.
Speaker 2: Almost four hundred movies and all studios. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of money. Actually, Okay, I know you think about it, I.
Speaker 3: Know, and it's all gone.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll give us.
Speaker 4: So you were so it sounds like you you like
Speaker 4: had like a big wave where you were doing really
Speaker 4: well with studio and maybe like you're not doing as much.
Speaker 1: What is going on with you in terms of studio work.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't. I think here's my thing, Okay.
Speaker 3: I was based on like when you think about it,
Speaker 3: are the seeds are coming up? When you look at
Speaker 3: the studios and who actually owns them. It's straight people.
Speaker 3: Straight people are going to invest and it's time straight people.
Speaker 3: It's straight men. By the looks of things. From what
Speaker 3: I've observed and from what I've seen, I could be
Speaker 3: totally wrong, and I can totally admit that, and I'm
Speaker 3: I am willing to be taught, but I am just
Speaker 3: saying for the record what I have observed and what
Speaker 3: I know. So it's mostly straight men that run them,
Speaker 3: including the gay side, and so gay straight men are
Speaker 3: gonna fucking invest in what they want to jerk off to.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to the gay shit, they don't
Speaker 3: give a fucking damn and they're not gonna actually invest
Speaker 3: in it because they don't fucking see that there's money
Speaker 3: in it, which I feel like there is, but I
Speaker 3: guess not or into them. And then they hire their
Speaker 3: straight buddies because I guess they'd brother hang out with
Speaker 3: a bunch of straight people and not hang out with faggots.
Speaker 3: And where am I going with this? I lost my
Speaker 3: train thought. Anyway, I'm a victim.
Speaker 2: So you've you've soured, I have studio.
Speaker 3: I have soured. I've become a little bitter. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie and sorry to hear that. It's okay. I
Speaker 3: don't care because it pushed me to do other things,
Speaker 3: and yeah, like what kind of things. Well, she got
Speaker 3: her SAD card because yeah, congratulations, thank you, And that's
Speaker 3: the thing too and kind of makes me a little
Speaker 3: bittersweet too, because I got my SAG card because the
Speaker 3: people at next door were the ones that got me
Speaker 3: this job for euphoria on HBO, And that's how I
Speaker 3: became sack eligible just from that one job.
Speaker 2: What did you do on it?
Speaker 3: It was like this big finale thing. I think for
Speaker 3: the second season they didn't end up using it, but
Speaker 3: I still like became sack eligible from it and made
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: It was like a two thousand dollars check.
Speaker 2: He was cute.
Speaker 1: That's very nice.
Speaker 3: It was cute, it was fun, it was a good time.
Speaker 2: Was like the dance at the end.
Speaker 3: No, it was like the supposed to be like this
Speaker 3: big dreamy orgy kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So like that's what sucks too.
Speaker 3: It's like there were lots of like really fun sweet
Speaker 3: moments in the studios and like you know and whatever.
Speaker 3: But then like all of a sudden in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: like rithe was nuts. That's when it all started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Well, that's when I media blackout. No one was talking
Speaker 3: to me, no one would message me back.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was really bizarre. Did something trigger that?
Speaker 3: How would I know? I don't know, no one told
Speaker 3: me anything. And then like when I even like this
Speaker 3: year when I was at the the gay the ends,
Speaker 3: when I would kind of like talk with some of
Speaker 3: the studio people, and they like they would act as
Speaker 3: if they had no idea.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so like.
Speaker 3: Either I don't know, but also I think some of
Speaker 3: them have told me that apparently once a more time,
Speaker 3: which I kind of knew this already, like once the
Speaker 3: time the directors had a little bit more say and
Speaker 3: who they could cast, but then that kind of changed.
Speaker 3: So like it's a whole it's a whole thing. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of things. I have no idea what's going
Speaker 3: on behind the scenes. But it's stung and it hurt,
Speaker 3: especially when like I'm the person and we're like when
Speaker 3: I do things, especially when it comes to like I'm
Speaker 3: getting paid for it. I really like to like give
Speaker 3: all of me and so it kind of becomes who
Speaker 3: I am, and when you know that's taken away or
Speaker 3: I'm made to feel like I don't know, it hurts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when they don't have a reason and you're like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is why am I being blackballed? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I can relate to that a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, so yeah, but I mean grateful for
Speaker 3: it now. I mean I'm a lot happier now and
Speaker 3: things are getting better now. And yeah, but it definitely
Speaker 3: it's stung, and it's still kind of stings.
Speaker 2: But okay, I wanted to go back to something a
Speaker 2: little more fun. So you've won, You've won like a
Speaker 2: lot of awards. Oh thank you, ex Business and Gabians
Speaker 2: and Grabby's Fleshbots, fleshpots that award.
Speaker 3: They don't make them anywhere, and you know what, And
Speaker 3: I grabbed four of them on the way up.
Speaker 2: Which one are Which one do you feel? Like means
Speaker 2: the most ex Biz expis.
Speaker 3: Because my first expiz was in twenty twenty two and
Speaker 3: I like made that really crazy speech to all the
Speaker 3: straight people, like went nuts over because I was on
Speaker 3: the stage. Oh my god, it was nuts. So like
Speaker 3: it was my first time being nominated for x BIZ
Speaker 3: and so obviously I went I didn't think I was
Speaker 3: gonna win because like it was like Cade Maddox and
Speaker 3: like what was the award? It was Performer the Year Wow.
Speaker 3: And at that time too, it was only a game.
Speaker 3: Well no, not anymore.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: That was the last year where they only had the
Speaker 3: two gate categories. It was I think it was Best
Speaker 3: Gay Director. No, it was Best Gay Director, sorry, Best
Speaker 3: Gate Director and Best uh Performer.
Speaker 1: Of the Year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so it was only two and I was
Speaker 3: one of the two, and I was shocked because, like,
Speaker 3: you know, like they had Devin Franco and is that
Speaker 3: his name?
Speaker 1: It is it Devon?
Speaker 3: Want to make sure. So I was pissed drunk, as
Speaker 3: I do as those award shows, like this time was
Speaker 3: really drunk because I didn't yeah anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: So I was blackout drunk, and then I found out
Speaker 3: that I won, and I was saying with my best
Speaker 3: friend her stage ings Alia Donovan, I love her to death.
Speaker 3: Apparently I looked at her in horror, and then I
Speaker 3: went up stage and gave a big, giant, long, two minute,
Speaker 3: fucking drunk speech saying like who rigged this for me?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go kill myself? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Think it's which they wore by.
Speaker 2: And very very drunk, very yeah, very me and with sunglasses.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 3: It was very exciting and fun. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: I remember after remember they were towards the end of
Speaker 3: the show, we went to the abbey, and I remember
Speaker 3: like kind of like having consciousness a little bit, but
Speaker 3: like I held onto that little gold envelope that they
Speaker 3: give you the whole night because I was scared that
Speaker 3: it wasn't true. That's why I held onto it, like
Speaker 3: I don't you know.
Speaker 2: But that one was really nice.
Speaker 3: And the following year that's when they ended up adding
Speaker 3: more gay awards, like whatever. That's why it's a little
Speaker 3: bit more special at least for me, because that's when
Speaker 3: it was like a little.
Speaker 1: Bit more exclusive.
Speaker 3: It's like when like Beyonce won like the Country Music
Speaker 3: Award and now they added like two of them instead
Speaker 3: of like just the one. Yes, people are jealous and racist.
Speaker 4: Sure, Yes, are there any scenes in the past, studio
Speaker 4: or otherwise that like really stick at you as like wow,
Speaker 4: I really love doing this, like you're seeing partner you loved,
Speaker 4: or it was just a really great day.
Speaker 3: There were a lot there were. There were also times
Speaker 3: too where like I would be like midpen and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh god, I want to I want to die midpen
Speaker 3: just midpen, just doggy, just that's mid penetration for the moms.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that JJ night one was really fun.
Speaker 3: That JJ knight meum was fun and sexy in a
Speaker 3: good time, or like I remember, like I don't know
Speaker 3: if disruptive is still a thing. I don't know what
Speaker 3: I've been so like, yeah, I've been so out of it,
Speaker 3: so hor I don't even know what's going on how
Speaker 3: I think works anymore because I feel like also, like
Speaker 3: here's a here's a consolidating short.
Speaker 2: They pay less and they've worked, they hire you less.
Speaker 2: That's that's the general.
Speaker 1: That's even the then to shut it down, I know,
Speaker 1: But but.
Speaker 2: They pump out so much shitty content now the studio
Speaker 2: sorry studios, Yeah, but you're going down.
Speaker 3: That's so confusing to me because it's like, wouldn't you
Speaker 3: want to invest in Like, don't you want to sell
Speaker 3: good cars? Daddy? Like you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 3: I feel like a Matilda.
Speaker 2: They're all afraid of falling behind as far as not
Speaker 2: giving the consumer enough new scenes. So they all like
Speaker 2: when I started, even they shot one scene in a day,
Speaker 2: there was no this scene. Then oh we got to
Speaker 2: finish this one by two o'clock because we got another
Speaker 2: couple of guys in here. We got to film them after.
Speaker 4: Well, are you saying that like the heyday of like
Speaker 4: studio porn being this big production is just behind us,
Speaker 4: Like features, nobody's.
Speaker 2: Doing that anymore. They don't. They didn't know because the
Speaker 2: one that I did, It's a Ride or Die, that
Speaker 2: was like a much bigger budget. They used everybody the
Speaker 2: prison one.
Speaker 1: That I got said I wasn't in that. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you.
Speaker 2: I almost wasn't. Very I almost wasn't.
Speaker 3: But I I'm a very jealous and competitive girl.
Speaker 2: That was a large budget. That was like, I mean,
Speaker 2: guys on the crew were like, yeah, we've never worked
Speaker 2: with this kind of budget before. And then I don't
Speaker 2: think it paid up. I won the best it won everything.
Speaker 1: It won awards I won, but maybe it didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of revenue.
Speaker 2: They got Best Director, but it didn't pay off financially.
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Ok?
Speaker 2: I think that that was kind of the end of
Speaker 2: doing something like that. That was I think it was
Speaker 2: a test.
Speaker 3: But why fuck over the models? Like why not like
Speaker 3: be like all right, let's see it, like maybe we
Speaker 3: can like budget this better, or let's see we can
Speaker 3: be smarter with our money so we can get more
Speaker 3: of a return, Like why be so like throwing the towel.
Speaker 1: And well, let me add about let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: like what how is it like?
Speaker 4: For example, I just did my first dudo scene in
Speaker 4: a while where it was literally just a hotel scene
Speaker 4: and we were there for three hours. I got paid
Speaker 4: not a lot, but it was decent and I was
Speaker 4: like it was a fifty not bad for like a
Speaker 4: three hour afternoon and like you know what I mean
Speaker 4: like this, I was not mad at it. I didn't
Speaker 4: have to memorize lines. I wasn't sweating.
Speaker 1: I was here. Was it for Randy Blue, which I
Speaker 1: didn't even know was a thing.
Speaker 3: That's shocking. They have been resurrected from the.
Speaker 1: Dead, Well the director, it was like a hockey crux
Speaker 1: for like Austin.
Speaker 2: Well, I swear to God like everybody. And we talked
Speaker 2: a lot about people's first experiences with porn and Randy
Speaker 2: Blue is one of the first studios.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a long time ago.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have this like nostalgic feeling for it,
Speaker 2: I think, and like remember those scenes being so hot
Speaker 2: because it was maybe the first gay porn they'd ever
Speaker 2: seen in video. Maybe really that wasn't like vintage, you know.
Speaker 3: Right, who, I'm confused, whatever, I'm I'm just a baby.
Speaker 3: I think I'm just a baby baby with a lot
Speaker 3: of opinions.
Speaker 4: Remember, I think I don't have enough experience anymore with
Speaker 4: studios to know how they're doing. I know we've talked
Speaker 4: about some that do like the content houses, they're so
Speaker 4: they're kind of gross, you know what i mean.
Speaker 1: Like trying to do that with me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not selling my brand that I would
Speaker 3: rather die. I would rather just I mean.
Speaker 4: It also just goes to show you that the state
Speaker 4: of the industry has just been it keeps changing. So
Speaker 4: like I was in the like my heyday was in
Speaker 4: the last days of DVD, sounds like your heyday was
Speaker 4: in the last days of like these big studio productions
Speaker 4: that were like streaming, and you apparently just worked with
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 1: Of straight people who were shitty to work they were
Speaker 1: to work with.
Speaker 3: I'm just, I'm just. I'm just.
Speaker 1: I'm just a girl with a lot of feelings.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Well, how is it doing your own content?
Speaker 4: Do you do only fans and stuff? How's that going?
Speaker 1: It's it's good.
Speaker 2: It's been good.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to be done sometimes, but it's been good.
Speaker 1: Are you feeling like you're nearing the end of your
Speaker 1: trajectory in this industry?
Speaker 3: I would love to I'm not, Oh my god, not
Speaker 3: to be like, oh my god. I hope I'm not
Speaker 3: sound like such a negative bitch and no one wants
Speaker 3: to work with me because I I do. I do
Speaker 3: a good job.
Speaker 2: I go to work.
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I do my thing.
Speaker 3: But like I am definitely ready for a new chapter.
Speaker 3: Yeah fuckingly yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you've been doing it since you said twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen concern. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're doing wait so twenty eighteen? Oh yeah
Speaker 2: wait so no, no, no, okay, So you have your
Speaker 2: sage after card. Oh yeah, and you're doing an improv
Speaker 2: show with me next there's Yeah, which is gonna be
Speaker 2: so fun. Yes, don't be nervous.
Speaker 3: I'm not nervous. I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 2: No, I knows.
Speaker 3: I'm not scared at all.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I hope the other people aren't scared.
Speaker 2: I know one of them, just like I have stage right,
Speaker 2: like really bad?
Speaker 1: Wait, who are the other Who are the other performers?
Speaker 2: I have Greg Dixon okay, as I like to call
Speaker 2: them Greg to Dixon he always wants to should say
Speaker 2: that on stage or inked Jimmy. Oh that's what we're
Speaker 2: calling an inked Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Not inked pig.
Speaker 1: Does he have a background in stage.
Speaker 2: And I mean, like I've I've filmed with him a
Speaker 2: few times and I've hung out with him, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's pretty sharp. I think you can do. And we
Speaker 2: also have really good improvisers that can help us out
Speaker 2: and steer the ship.
Speaker 1: And there's only one way to get a background.
Speaker 2: Babe.
Speaker 1: You have to start. You have to start. That's true.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 1: Heart was a good experience.
Speaker 2: If you don't, don't start on the stage.
Speaker 1: Paid show, yes, hey, if you have that any we're
Speaker 1: getting paid.
Speaker 2: No, people are buying tickets.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'll just take the practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take the practice. The practice. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 2: just wait.
Speaker 3: Question actually about the show, So I note, wait, how
Speaker 3: does it work? Are we all just set partners the
Speaker 3: whole time? We so, because I have one guy that's
Speaker 3: just messaging me on on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about porn without the porn. We're doing
Speaker 2: it at UCB. It will have already been done by
Speaker 2: the time this airs, but but I'm sure there will
Speaker 2: be a next one. We did plug it in, yeah,
Speaker 2: so I know. But then two of the people that
Speaker 2: I said that we're going to be in it were
Speaker 2: still plugging it to recast ship. We still plug it,
Speaker 2: and we mentioned that Michael is in it, so so,
Speaker 2: but it's it's like, so there's eight people. There's four
Speaker 2: porn performers and four improvisers paired up, so there's like
Speaker 2: eight two people's scenes. But there's also a backlook. If
Speaker 2: you're in the cast, you can kind of jump in
Speaker 2: and jump out right. I'm kind of like if somebody
Speaker 2: like if they mentioned somebody else, you can be like
Speaker 2: ring ring talk on the phone and then like or yeah,
Speaker 2: you can introduce yourself as something in the scene. It's
Speaker 2: very silly and fun and stupid, and hardly any of
Speaker 2: the scenes have anything to do about porn.
Speaker 1: Porn.
Speaker 3: It sounds great. I'm just excited that what's your name, Rachel,
Speaker 3: Rachel Bloom. Oh my god, that was so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know she did the first one. She's great.
Speaker 1: I just want to be here. I just want to
Speaker 1: She was crazy expert.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be Amanda Bynes from Easy Friend.
Speaker 2: You can't plan, you can't plan them.
Speaker 3: I don't want to know. I'm not about planning. I
Speaker 3: just I just want to be her. I just want
Speaker 3: to be her fun little gay side kick. That's all
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: I remember being at the grabby Is where your mom
Speaker 2: came with you.
Speaker 1: What was that I bought her dress too, I bought
Speaker 1: her a dress.
Speaker 2: What was that experience like to have your mom there?
Speaker 3: It was great she's come to that when she came
Speaker 3: to one of.
Speaker 1: The ex business as well, did you did you win?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I wish I wanted the I want of the Grabby's.
Speaker 3: Thank god she was there. Well, it was also about
Speaker 3: fucking time the Grabbys fucking gave me something. Same with
Speaker 3: the Gay Ends. They didn't give me anything for it
Speaker 3: forever either. I was always listening to a certain someone
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna name. Well it's because.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, but your mom win an award, seen.
Speaker 3: Me win a gray Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 2: And they and the whole day they I don't know
Speaker 2: who was on stage, but they like had her stand
Speaker 2: and everybody they were like, if you're a men family member,
Speaker 2: it was it was she she yeah, yeah, they were
Speaker 2: like whose family members? Of who was here there?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 2: And they stood up and everybody like stood up.
Speaker 4: Hold on important question, though, what award did you win
Speaker 4: when she was there? Do you remember favorite butt?
Speaker 1: Well? I would like to thank my mom.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm just thank her. I don't think
Speaker 3: she would. Funny, My Italian American mom could not be
Speaker 3: more proud. She loves That's great, she loves You're like,
Speaker 3: I got my butt from my mom.
Speaker 1: Who's right there?
Speaker 4: Thank your fault. I mean, that's amazing she did this.
Speaker 4: It is a magnificent But have you always had it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about being type cast as a bottom?
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I just want money, right, dude, Like, but you are
Speaker 2: tapping as much as bottoming.
Speaker 3: Or I think it depends on the person.
Speaker 1: Right, do you identify as a bottom? Like the noun
Speaker 1: like everything?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm every woman, I'm kidding his pan, Yes, No,
Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: No, I'm I want. I wanted to bring up you.
Speaker 2: Are you like to do looks? Looks you like to
Speaker 2: dress up? Like especially for award shows? Where does that
Speaker 2: come from? I mean, like, actually, I have decided when
Speaker 2: I go out with with Michael, I want him to
Speaker 2: come over her so I can see what he's wearing
Speaker 2: and then just.
Speaker 1: Obvious smart basically sunglasses.
Speaker 2: Well, I see you out.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to not do that anymore. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: be more of a a glinda.
Speaker 2: Wait what is that about?
Speaker 1: Tell me about sunglasses out in the nightclub on you?
Speaker 2: What do you mean you didn't know?
Speaker 3: This is my journey, This is doesn't here. I don't
Speaker 3: know where or why it started. I think I just
Speaker 3: did it once to be funny, and then I just
Speaker 3: kept doing it, and then it kind of became like
Speaker 3: a weird safety thing or like kind of like I
Speaker 3: don't know, like me put on my sunglasses just means
Speaker 3: like people can see me, but I really can't see
Speaker 3: them as much, so then I feel safe.
Speaker 1: It's weird, I don't know.
Speaker 2: And if you're drunk, it's the eyes that give I know, well,
Speaker 2: then I can kind of like.
Speaker 3: Look around to be a little like fucked up and
Speaker 3: like no one really knows. I mean they know you're
Speaker 3: wearing sunglasses, but.
Speaker 2: Like do you know because I think, well that someone
Speaker 2: is drunk, that's fine.
Speaker 1: No, I see it the way you do.
Speaker 4: I think sunglasses are a great way to be able
Speaker 4: to people watch in a way that makes you feel
Speaker 4: like you're not being you're not.
Speaker 2: It's a safety it's a partition.
Speaker 3: Partitions safety blankets.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm trying not to do that anymore because
Speaker 3: I'm just I don't know, I think I need to
Speaker 3: just trying to be I don't know, just a little
Speaker 3: bit more of an authentic a nice No, not authentic,
Speaker 3: because me doing what I was doing sunglass wasn't it
Speaker 3: just like unauthentic. But I think having more of a
Speaker 3: more of a presence, right, more of a sweet a
Speaker 3: sweet girl of the people.
Speaker 2: I think it s no, but I think you're on
Speaker 2: the right track to maybe being able to have a
Speaker 2: conversation and a little be a little more connected when
Speaker 2: you're out. When you're having that instead of with sunglasses
Speaker 2: on and they're not.
Speaker 3: Wearing people will so come up to me.
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, yeah, I think your evolution is great.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I have loved Yeah, you've and you've made your mark
Speaker 4: for sure, Like I mean, thank you the Michael Boston
Speaker 4: of it all.
Speaker 1: Oh, stop you guys. What's next?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us what's next? Like what are you what
Speaker 4: are you excited about for the remainder of twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3: Well, right now, I'm working with I've been going to
Speaker 3: a friend, my friend Jeff McLean, I've been working with
Speaker 3: him on my seeing voice since twenty twenty one, or
Speaker 3: we're doing some more.
Speaker 1: Hoping to record some stuff an album. It'll be fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you a singer?
Speaker 3: I like to sing. I'm getting more comfortable with it
Speaker 3: and figuring out how my voice works.
Speaker 1: And shit like that. But it's exciting.
Speaker 3: It'll be fun. And I mean, obviously I wouldn't look
Speaker 3: to anything that sounds I wouldn't want to lose anything
Speaker 3: that sounds shit, so it'd have to be amazing. But
Speaker 3: just things like that. And then we're doing background stuff
Speaker 3: and I have friends who are writing parts for me
Speaker 3: and shit, and hopefully some things will change and I'm
Speaker 3: working towards those things and being open and yeah, open minded,
Speaker 3: open hearted, and open legged. That is what I'm doing
Speaker 3: for the rest of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Lovely.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you do.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, and we'll see you out about in
Speaker 1: or out of sunglasses. Yes. I love that you come
Speaker 1: to all the parties. Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I actually just got like accosted bite someone yesterday at
Speaker 3: the gym and they were like, why ain't coming to
Speaker 3: Hot Dog anywhere. I'm like, I'm like, well, the less
Speaker 3: time I went, I was black out drunk. I feel
Speaker 3: like I got carried out with my friends. Oh no,
Speaker 3: probably wasn't you can stone cold sober? Those stairs are
Speaker 3: like really, I feel like Alice in Wonderland. I'm like,
Speaker 3: where are we going?
Speaker 1: Like? This is so crazy?
Speaker 2: Has anyone fallen down?
Speaker 1: Probably? I followed over one hundred years old.
Speaker 2: Nobody has hurt.
Speaker 3: My leg fell off.
Speaker 2: It's not quite like black speeches.
Speaker 1: But it's honey.
Speaker 3: I will not go down there. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: worth it really. Now, she's just being a I'm being
Speaker 3: a nun now. So I'm like, I couldn't imagine walking downstairs.
Speaker 1: I will never I couldn't imagine, well, not for long, but.
Speaker 3: And then a big dick comes along. Oh, follow me
Speaker 3: up the rocks?
Speaker 2: Good under a tree?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have to wrap up.
Speaker 2: I've been really lovely having you.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else cool? Do you have anything
Speaker 1: for us? Michael Boston, Not that I could think of.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've already like shared a lot. You've
Speaker 1: shared a lot.
Speaker 2: You are sharing too much?
Speaker 1: No, never, there's a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't where the line is. I don't know where
Speaker 3: it is. I don't know where the line is entertaining
Speaker 3: and oversharing, but oh.
Speaker 2: Well, well there we are this podcast. It's it's a big.
Speaker 3: Range fair yeah, yeah, yay, and thank god.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we complain, sometimes we put things on a pedestal.
Speaker 3: Right, and then sometimes we ship on a bunch of
Speaker 3: people and then hope they don't hear it.
Speaker 1: And either way, sorry for asking, that's how it goes.
Speaker 1: It's not your fault.
Speaker 2: I opened my mouth. I asked for this.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for coming today, Michael Boston. Everybody, if you
Speaker 4: don't know, now you know. Yeah, well that's it for me.
Speaker 1: How about you? Okay, I'm Adam Ramsay, sorry for asking.
Speaker 2: Bye by This has been woraity for asking. Be sure
Speaker 2: to like, comment and subscribe, and until next time, stay sexy.