Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
Speaker 1: six forty.
Speaker 2: And this is KFI Handle here on a Tuesday morning,
Speaker 2: September seventeen.
Speaker 1: As we continue on with the show, we're covering a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff this morning.
Speaker 2: Here are still a lot of fallout from the assassination
Speaker 2: attempt of former President Trump which happened on Sunday, and
Speaker 2: as there should be a lot of fallout, but I
Speaker 2: think the Secret Service this time around is going to
Speaker 2: get some kudos.
Speaker 1: Also, I want to congratulate Will Coleschreiver.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Will's listening, but referencing to a
Speaker 2: car accident as a carbeque very strong, I must tell you.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, all right, Now let's get into some politics, and.
Speaker 1: It's so contentious.
Speaker 2: So here's another one where our former president and some
Speaker 2: members or some unions are really getting into a pissing match.
Speaker 2: So the president of the California Professional Firefighters Union said
Speaker 2: that former President Trump should quote be ashamed of his
Speaker 2: threat to withhold federal firefighting aid to the state if
Speaker 2: he were elected. Now, this is not a huge union,
Speaker 2: but it's thirty five thousand firefighters. The California Professional Firefighters
Speaker 2: Union and Brian Rice, president said, it is shocking that
Speaker 2: we have a presidential candidate who's threatening our public safety.
Speaker 1: And here's what this one.
Speaker 2: Is about, and this is the president having a former
Speaker 2: president having a huge fight with Governor Newsom. As you know,
Speaker 2: that's inevitable and matter of fact, he calls Newsomb newscom.
Speaker 2: No surprise there, but he the former president has disagreed
Speaker 2: with virtually every single water issue that California has. We
Speaker 2: have some big problems here in California. I mean we've
Speaker 2: got land management problems, policies, water bottman issues, protection for
Speaker 2: the endangered Delta smelt, which the former president said is
Speaker 2: not making it anyway.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I happen to agree with him whether
Speaker 1: it makes it or not.
Speaker 2: It's a tiny little fish, and I don't care about
Speaker 2: tiny little fish.
Speaker 1: You know, go eat an anchovy instead of the smelt.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: We're talking about real issues. So Trump is dead right
Speaker 2: on this one. But he went on to say with
Speaker 2: this group, everything is dead. And he's talking about the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party here in California. The automobile industry is dead.
Speaker 2: The automobile industry is dead. The water coming here is dead,
Speaker 2: and he said newscum is going to sign those papers.
Speaker 1: We don't know what papers he's talking about.
Speaker 2: And if he doesn't sign those papers, I'm assuming following
Speaker 2: former President Trump's philosophy on how water should be used
Speaker 2: in California. If he doesn't sign those papers, we won't
Speaker 2: give him money to put out all of his fires.
Speaker 2: And if we don't give him all the money to
Speaker 2: put out his fires, he's got problems. He's allows he
Speaker 2: governor wet papers. We don't know at this point. And
Speaker 2: then of course new some rights back. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a pissing match. Today it's California's wildfires. Tomorrow could be
Speaker 2: hurricane funding for North Carolina or flooding assistant for Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: And then Ori ice.
Speaker 2: And this is where Trump has I mean, I just
Speaker 2: love these statements. Remember in twenty eighteen he went to
Speaker 2: Paradise and he said, we've got to take care of
Speaker 2: the floors, you know, the floors of the forest. And
Speaker 2: you reference Finland saying the country focuses on raking and cleaning,
Speaker 2: they don't have any problems, and which, by the way,
Speaker 2: he's got a point on that one, because forest management,
Speaker 2: floor management of the floor, the forest is one thing
Speaker 2: that has not been done very well. But you know,
Speaker 2: the raking and cleaning. And then he compared, this was
Speaker 2: on Friday, California's forest to the Austrian forests, where the
Speaker 2: trees do not catch fire because of good forest management.
Speaker 2: He said, the forests are so brittle because there's no
Speaker 2: is like California.
Speaker 1: I go to Austria.
Speaker 2: The head of Austria tells me we have trees that
Speaker 2: are much more flammable than we have in California, and
Speaker 2: we never have forest fires. And Trump says it's because
Speaker 2: they maintain their forests, and Austrian officials had previously said, no,
Speaker 2: we don't have more explosive trees. Trees are basically as
Speaker 2: explosive any place in the.
Speaker 1: World that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just love that stuff. And the issue
Speaker 2: with wildfire is a huge problem here. As you know.
Speaker 2: The last I think, the fires are still going on.
Speaker 2: We've got three major fires in southern California already have
Speaker 2: burnt more than one hundred thousand acres. And without federal money,
Speaker 2: it's it's difficult. I mean, fire fighters across the country
Speaker 2: rely on federal money. And the former president said, unless
Speaker 2: you do what I want, you to do with California
Speaker 2: Police on water management. I am if I become when
Speaker 2: I become president, I'm going to stop the funding. You know,
Speaker 2: it's what do you do? Sometimes I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't understand how this works. You know,
Speaker 2: this is the example I give you where sometimes I
Speaker 2: just don't understand the way people think. I had a
Speaker 2: call and handle on the law a few years ago
Speaker 2: and there was something about the gun control issue. Someone
Speaker 2: called in who was clearly a gunnet and bottom line,
Speaker 2: he said, no.
Speaker 1: One's ever going to take away my guns. I will
Speaker 1: fight them to the death.
Speaker 2: He said, okay, so let's let's let me give you your
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. Here where the law is passed,
Speaker 2: hanging away your guns, and the National Guard shows up
Speaker 2: and there they have their armored personnel carriers, they have
Speaker 2: their artillery, and they're telling you either give up your
Speaker 2: guns or we're going to destroy the house. And he
Speaker 2: said I would fight them to the death. I would
Speaker 2: take my weapon and fight them until I die. And
Speaker 2: then I said, let me give you an example. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me give you a scenario. Assumeing what you say
Speaker 2: is right, that they show up and now you take
Speaker 2: your weapon and you start fighting them, and they start
Speaker 2: firing back because they've got a platoon in front of you,
Speaker 2: and your kids get caught in the crossfire and you
Speaker 2: lose your kids. You have kids, Yeah, I've got three
Speaker 2: of them or whatever ages. And I said, and you
Speaker 2: lose your kids?
Speaker 1: Is that worth it?
Speaker 2: And I'm going to quote now they would understand how
Speaker 2: important the Second Amendment is.
Speaker 1: And I said, you're five year old. Yes, my five
Speaker 1: year old.
Speaker 2: Would understand that the Second Amendment is more important than
Speaker 2: even living. It's I'm just giving an example of what's
Speaker 2: going on today across the board.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is so crazy, pure silliness. As an individual,
Speaker 1: tell me that this isn't silly. Just described what's the
Speaker 1: revolutionary war?
Speaker 2: I know, but that individuals going up against the government
Speaker 2: so are our existence as a country would not have happened.
Speaker 1: I do not yet, well took up arms against the government,
Speaker 1: except I don't know how many people would say my
Speaker 1: one individual doing it? I understand, But I know, right.
Speaker 2: Those people are crazy. That's true because overthrowing the government.
Speaker 2: And this is not the King George the third or
Speaker 2: King George the fifth. But all I'm saying is that
Speaker 2: that kind of thinking is happening today more than it
Speaker 2: ever has.
Speaker 1: By the way, is there any.
Speaker 2: Revolutionary missive that you have read where it says I'm
Speaker 2: willing to have my kids die in order to gain freedom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I just want to make a point of how
Speaker 2: crazy it's all crazy.
Speaker 1: It's all crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't get it, you know, it's that kind of
Speaker 2: thinking I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I've talked many times about AI and the good, the bad,
Speaker 2: the ugly. Mainly we don't understand what it is, even
Speaker 2: what it possibly can do.
Speaker 1: We're on the little, tiny tippy edge of what this
Speaker 1: stuff can do. Well.
Speaker 2: I do a lot of talking about how negative it is,
Speaker 2: but let me give you a positive story. Google has
Speaker 2: just announced they're going to spend thirteen million dollars to
Speaker 2: improve satellite imaging to help track and detect wildfires. Now
Speaker 2: we start with thirteen million dollars from Google. That's less
Speaker 2: money than the change they find between the cushions in
Speaker 2: their waiting rooms when you go to the lobby at
Speaker 2: that organization. But what this is about is fire SAT
Speaker 2: is what it's called, a group of fifty satellites that
Speaker 2: will be able to detect wildfires as small as the
Speaker 2: size of a bedroom sixteen by sixteen or of classroom,
Speaker 2: and this launches early next year. Right now, satellite imagery
Speaker 2: detects wildfires when they hit about the size.
Speaker 1: Of a football field.
Speaker 2: This one is the size of a classroom. And as
Speaker 2: you probably know by now, the new firefighting philosophy is,
Speaker 2: you get fires out as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: You send those air tankers.
Speaker 2: If there is a campfire that looks like it's going
Speaker 2: to start a wildfire, you grab it at the campfire
Speaker 2: level with air or ground forces. And so this initiative
Speaker 2: is being led by something called the Earth Fire Alliance,
Speaker 2: a nonprofit that created this fire SAT and is to
Speaker 2: develop wildfire databases funding from Google among others. And right now,
Speaker 2: satellite image confuses clouds mostacks for fires. Well, what Google
Speaker 2: is saying and what fire stata is saying is using
Speaker 2: machine learning.
Speaker 1: Google built a camera.
Speaker 2: That optimized this technology for fire detections and will provide
Speaker 2: updated satellite imagery every twenty minutes to firefighters, which doesn't
Speaker 2: happen now, So to give them as early infras solid
Speaker 2: information as possible, because that is now the magic bullet
Speaker 2: that is the way the.
Speaker 1: Most successful way to fight firefighters.
Speaker 2: Also, firestat will create a database to create a global
Speaker 2: historical record of fire spreads, so you just better understanding
Speaker 2: better models. Now, California have already started using AI to
Speaker 2: better track wildfires with the California Department of Forestry and
Speaker 2: Fire Protection did partners with UC San Diego and developed
Speaker 2: a new AI pilot project. We've talked about this that
Speaker 2: has over a thousand of these high definition cameras that
Speaker 2: are on top of towers and mountain peaks throughout the
Speaker 2: state and they're saying we need a lot more thousands
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 1: But what that does.
Speaker 2: Those cameras keep an eye out for smoke and other
Speaker 2: anomalies that's already in place, but they're not specific enough.
Speaker 2: They don't go to the minutia this program does. It
Speaker 2: just delves deeper into the technology and the research. Mechanical
Speaker 2: engineer with US Forest Service who was interviewed for this article,
Speaker 2: Jason Forhofer, said, we'll be able to teach firefighters what
Speaker 2: drying US does to a fire. You sort of already
Speaker 2: know it, don't you, But this takes it on a
Speaker 2: whole different level. Or what wind does or changes in
Speaker 2: fuel types, because we have seen so many firefighters die
Speaker 2: on fires when they don't anticipate what the fire is
Speaker 2: going to do. And we talked to Chuck Lovers, who
Speaker 2: is my friend who worked with La County Fire for
Speaker 2: thirty years, and the guy is like a real expert
Speaker 2: in you're being designed equipment. I mean, he was just
Speaker 2: and he is tremendous about knowledge of firefighting. And every
Speaker 2: time do you remember the hot shots, I think fourteen
Speaker 2: of them died in the fire. And we talked to Chuck,
Speaker 2: and Chuck said they just didn't understand enough.
Speaker 1: About what was going on.
Speaker 2: Someone just blew it putting in that position. If they
Speaker 2: looked at it, they would have known that is not
Speaker 2: the place to put firefighters.
Speaker 1: Well, take that kind of thinking, and that was pretty blatant,
Speaker 1: according to Chuck.
Speaker 2: Take that kind of thinking and bring it to levels
Speaker 2: of understanding that are of magnitude and the ability to
Speaker 2: look at this and to analyze this. And by the way,
Speaker 2: tell me, we don't have fire seasons now because of
Speaker 2: climate change.
Speaker 1: So this is the good news.
Speaker 2: Where AI is going to be used in a positive sense.
Speaker 2: So coming up, I'm going to do the next four
Speaker 2: segments on how Ai is going to give you diseases
Speaker 2: and kill you and make life more miserable because hey,
Speaker 2: this is the handle show.
Speaker 1: What can I tell you?
Speaker 2: Right? Okay, TikTok. Let me spend a minute talking about that.
Speaker 2: Federal judges are now dealing with TikTok. There's a panel
Speaker 2: federal judges. We're grilling both TikTok and the Justice Department.
Speaker 1: Here's what.
Speaker 2: As we know, Congress passed the law, bipartisan bill that
Speaker 2: said TikTok has to either sell itself in the United
Speaker 2: States or.
Speaker 1: It's just going to be banned outright.
Speaker 2: And of course they're suing and arguing this is a
Speaker 2: First Amendment issue. And the whole premise is TikTok is
Speaker 2: owned by byte Edance, which is a Chinese company, and
Speaker 2: the argument is that TikTok and all of these major
Speaker 2: tech companies have enormous amount of data about businesses, about
Speaker 2: individuals here in this country. And the fear is that
Speaker 2: the Chinese government, either the military, the Chinese Ese Party,
Speaker 2: the Communist Party, or the government itself, which is one
Speaker 2: and the same, are going to be able to get
Speaker 2: this information on Americans.
Speaker 1: So TikTok is out now. When you go when the
Speaker 1: government is.
Speaker 2: Going against the other big companies, that's antitrust and they're
Speaker 2: American companies, so this argument doesn't fly. Wow, TikTok is
Speaker 2: screaming and saying it's First Amendment.
Speaker 1: You don't have the right to do this to us.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that a Chinese own company is
Speaker 2: arguing First Amendment in this country. I mean, the irony
Speaker 2: is just spectacular here. It is breathtaking the hypocrisy here.
Speaker 2: And the court said, this is three judge panel said,
Speaker 2: we've never seen this before.
Speaker 1: We've never seen this.
Speaker 2: Now First Amendment arguments with American based company. Of course
Speaker 2: we're going to hear that that's legitimate, and that is
Speaker 2: always a real issue. And how far and how much
Speaker 2: restriction can major platforms have is going to be dealt
Speaker 2: with forever.
Speaker 1: With a foreign.
Speaker 2: Company, that is a different thing. And there are three
Speaker 2: judges and by the way, the argument and people that
Speaker 2: are looking at this, the judges were going after both
Speaker 2: the government and TikTok. They were asking questions and usually
Speaker 2: based on the questions, this happens to the Supreme Court cases
Speaker 2: all the time. What the court watchers look at is
Speaker 2: are the questions that are being tossed at the attorneys,
Speaker 2: and some of those questions don't stop. Scalia, for example,
Speaker 2: was brutal in questioning both plaintiffs and defendants or respondents
Speaker 2: and those that are have filed motions. I mean, before
Speaker 2: the attorneys could literally open their mouths, he was throwing
Speaker 2: questions at them, and you know which way he.
Speaker 1: Was going to go.
Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas never asked attorneys anything. He just sets back
Speaker 2: and listens. He is a listener. Of course we know
Speaker 2: where he's going because of his political views. But there
Speaker 2: are a couple of ways of doing it, and a
Speaker 2: lot of the argument or the questioning determines which way
Speaker 2: the judges are going to go.
Speaker 1: In this case, it's either way.
Speaker 2: Because both the government and TikTok were just nailed or
Speaker 2: even being asked about their positions.
Speaker 1: There were three separate lawsuits that were consolidated.
Speaker 2: This is a big, big case and it will go
Speaker 2: up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: There was a case. I mean, this is how far
Speaker 1: this goes.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just hypothetical questions that were thrown out. Here's
Speaker 2: a hypothetical what if they do that all the time.
Speaker 2: Alana Kagan just did that with a couple of cases.
Speaker 2: The court references previous cases. There was one Lamont versus
Speaker 2: Postmaster General. The Supreme Court upheld Americans' rights to receive
Speaker 2: may from abroad, even when the government considered a communist
Speaker 2: propaganda First Amendment mail from abroad, so receiving the information
Speaker 2: was a First Amendment right. However, in TikTok's case, and
Speaker 2: this is why it's the case, the first impression the
Speaker 2: court this is a brand new area of law, and
Speaker 2: that is how far and how protected are these major platforms.
Speaker 2: And the argument here is First Amendment rights. You know,
Speaker 2: that is a tough one. The other thing is that
Speaker 2: Congress doesn't legislate all the time.
Speaker 1: One of the judges said, this time they did. They
Speaker 1: passed this law.
Speaker 2: And what TikTok is saying, this was basically a regulatory law.
Speaker 2: And the Court said, no, no, no, no, there's no
Speaker 2: regulation here. It's not a regulatory agency. This is not
Speaker 2: the Federal Communications Commission, this is.
Speaker 1: Not FAA, this is not the EPA.
Speaker 2: This is a law that was passed by Congress, which
Speaker 2: puts it into another category complicated stuff.
Speaker 1: Which way are they gonna go? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: When you see panda express advertising on TikTok more than
Speaker 2: any other company out there. You're gonna say, Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe the Chinese have a little bit more influence than
Speaker 2: they should. All right, now, Measure A is coming up,
Speaker 2: and what is Measure A. Measure A is going to
Speaker 2: be on the ballot, and what it is. It's a
Speaker 2: ballot measure That quote mandates a new approach to expand
Speaker 2: programs that are proven to prevent homelessness and increase housing affordability.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's kind of.
Speaker 2: Neat, sort of leaves out the fact that it's a tax.
Speaker 2: That's not in the flyer you're going to get.
Speaker 1: Nope, it is.
Speaker 2: Here's what happened. It is a tax. It replaces a
Speaker 2: tax and puts a new tax in. But the tax
Speaker 2: that replaces was going to sunset next year. And what
Speaker 2: this does is expand the tax and keep it indefinitely.
Speaker 2: So here's the bottom line about propositions. I want to
Speaker 2: point something out is that you look at who's backing
Speaker 2: it up. That has to be said in the commercials
Speaker 2: and the flyers, and if you, for example, if you
Speaker 2: see the who's backing it up? It used to be
Speaker 2: or the measure says citizens against taxation.
Speaker 1: That's what measure let's say thirteen is.
Speaker 2: And then you look at these various organizations that are
Speaker 2: pro tax who are paying for it?
Speaker 1: Uh huh, maybe there's something wrong here.
Speaker 2: Measure A it's about homelessness, and they don't mention it's
Speaker 2: a tax.
Speaker 1: Okay, look at.
Speaker 2: Everybody who's backing it up, all these organizations that are
Speaker 2: fighting homelessness, and you wonder they're leaving out the fact,
Speaker 2: how do you pay for all this?
Speaker 1: It's a tax. That's how you pay for it. It's
Speaker 1: a tax.
Speaker 2: Now do you know that you need two thirds majority
Speaker 2: of the vote if the government puts a ballot measure
Speaker 2: on a simple majority. When it is put on by
Speaker 2: the citizens. Guests who put this on the citizens always
Speaker 2: read who is backing it up and always always assume,
Speaker 2: and I think correctly, when they say we are against
Speaker 2: in the measure, they are in favor. And whenever you
Speaker 2: read we are in favor, in reality the proposal is against.
Speaker 2: Why because we are suckers and the law allows you
Speaker 2: to do that. Now, in reality, when you get your ballot,
Speaker 2: you know, when they give you the information about what
Speaker 2: measures do and what they don't do, they're there honest.
Speaker 2: But you have to read those ballot measures. Who does that?
Speaker 2: You get that booklet and it explains both pro and
Speaker 2: con and it's legislative analysis that comes out the legislative
Speaker 2: I think it's the the Analyst's office, and they're bipartisan
Speaker 2: the rest of the time.
Speaker 1: Uh uh.
Speaker 2: So, as you look at Measure A, and you know
Speaker 2: that it is going to help the homeless, it is
Speaker 2: another tax, another quarter tax. Now, it's no big deal.
Speaker 2: It's only a few cents here, it's only a dollar there. Well,
Speaker 2: we're already at the most taxed state in the nation
Speaker 2: and we're moving up from there.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Care which side of how you vote. All I care
Speaker 2: is about is that you do vote. I just don't care.
Speaker 2: But I do care about you knowing what you're voting for.
Speaker 2: I think that is critical. That's your franchise. That's what
Speaker 2: America is all about. All Right, I'm gonna get off
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