WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:03.960 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:11.960 KFI AM six forty, KFI AMI forty, Live Dreaming and 3 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:17.920 HD Everywhere on the iHeart Radio app. Dean Sharp the 4 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.239 House Whisperer, that's me live with you every Saturday and 5 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:25.600 Sunday morning. You can follow us on social media. We 6 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:29.879 only do the good kind, uplifting, informative, inspiring social media. 7 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.240 We're on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook x, all the usual suspects 8 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.079 Home with Dean, same handle for all of them, Home 9 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:41.439 with Dean And of course, this very program is also 10 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.880 known as the House Whisperer podcast that you can listen 11 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:51.479 to anytime, anywhere on demand. 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Lucy, 21 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:26.319 are you still with me? 22 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.200 Yes, Gene, I am. 23 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.959 Okay, thanks for hanging on through the break. Lucy asked 24 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.120 a question right before the break, and I just wanted 25 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:39.400 to give it it's due. She has an older roof. 26 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:43.359 Now I'm assuming, Lucy that your roof is an asphalt 27 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:49.000 composite shingle roof. Yes, yes, okay, she's got an older 28 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.200 roof starting to show a little buckling and bubbling on 29 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.079 some of the shingles. And the question is is it 30 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:02.439 true that there are that there is a mixture out there, 31 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:07.400 a spray on mixture that can preserve that roof, calm 32 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:12.639 it down, extend its life without having to commit to 33 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:17.039 the you know, the full roof replacement idea. And so 34 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:25.919 here's my answer, Lucy, Yes there is, and yes it's legitimate. Now, 35 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:30.120 whether or not it is going to work for your roof, 36 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:35.240 that is the question. It's a question of timing, timing 37 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:37.879 as far as did we get to it soon enough. 38 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:42.039 So I'll put it in this in this context. You know, 39 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:46.919 there are medical conditions that we all suffer from, and 40 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:52.879 there are treatments and cures that are available. The question 41 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:58.319 of whether or not a particular treatment is going to 42 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:01.439 be effective often has a lot to do with, well, 43 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.479 how soon did we catch this thing? Right? How early 44 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:08.719 on in the process did we catch it? And sometimes 45 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:11.719 it means that the treatment is just boom, we're gonna 46 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:15.240 do it. It's gonna work. We've nipped it in the 47 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:19.000 bud and it's helped a lot. And other times the 48 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:22.199 doctor is going to shake his head and say, well, 49 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:25.639 I'm sorry, no, we can't do that one because we're 50 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:29.919 past that now, we're past that level of effectiveness. So, 51 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:33.960 first of all, the fact that you're starting to see 52 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:38.039 bubbling and or rising or curling shingles on a roof 53 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:43.080 that is an asphalt composite roof is an indicator that 54 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:47.759 that roof is reaching the end of its life span. Right. 55 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:52.520 It's not just you know, an accident happened or there's 56 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.479 a leak here. In fact, it doesn't sound like your 57 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.280 roof is actually leaking at all currently. But when we 58 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:03.000 see the asphalt in bedded fiber paper underneath that it 59 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.520 actually makes up the shingle. When we see that starting 60 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:10.120 to warp or change shape, then it's an indication that 61 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:14.680 that roof is coming nearing the end of its lifespan. Okay, 62 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.879 nearing the end of its warranty period. In fact, it 63 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.839 may already be out of its warranty period. I'm not 64 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.920 going to speak to that, but it's nearing the end. 65 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:27.360 So the question is how severe. Now if most of 66 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:31.120 the shingles on a roof, in my experience of most 67 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.160 of the shingles on the roof are starting to buckle 68 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.079 and bulge and or even worse, curl up on the 69 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:40.720 front edge, then I think it's safe to say we're 70 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:47.360 probably past the level of spraying it down with this 71 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.839 kind of roof coating spray. But if it's just the 72 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.680 beginning of and there's just a few spots, then you 73 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.639 might well be within the parameter. The trouble is this. 74 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.639 The trouble is that if you call a roofer out 75 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:08.360 to evaluate it, all right, just a standard roofer, of course, 76 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:10.519 they're going to look at your roof and say, well, 77 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:12.759 you got to change out this room. This roof has 78 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.199 to come off at its end. You got to change 79 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.639 it out. But and that's why I wouldn't get my 80 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.680 first opinion from the roofer. I would get my first 81 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:27.839 opinion from a company that actually does roof preservation spraying, 82 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.560 and I will tell you. I'll give you one. I 83 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.360 wish they were a sponsor of the show. So just 84 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.639 just a clear point of disclosure here, this company is 85 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.959 not a sponsor of my show, but I would happily 86 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.560 make them. And that should tell you something right there, Ruth, 87 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.839 I mean Lucy. That should tell you that I believe 88 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:49.879 in this process and that I think it would help 89 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:52.839 a lot of people. Now, it's not going to indefinitely 90 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.279 extend the life of your roof, but it could give 91 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:01.120 it easily three to five years, maybe even longer before 92 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:05.879 you have to think about reroofing. If it's an effective treatment, 93 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:12.680 I would call roof Max. That's roof m A x 94 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.360 X two x's on the end. You can call them, 95 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.720 you can find them online. These guys are going to 96 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:23.560 give you a guarantee on how long and how effective 97 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.439 the spray is, so they would be the best ones 98 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.240 to actually evaluate this because you know, of course they're 99 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:31.959 going to want to spray your roof, but if they 100 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.800 find that your roof is in too bad a shape, 101 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:37.800 they're not going to want to spray the roof and 102 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.160 then guarantee that it stays in that you know, in 103 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.560 good shape for the next five years, and so I 104 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.319 would call them out, have them evaluate it first, give 105 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:51.399 you an honest evaluation. The cost. I'm not exactly sure 106 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.360 what the current cost is, but I'll tell you this. 107 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.439 It is a fraction. I mean a small fraction having 108 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.600 your roof sprayed down to one day process. It's a 109 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.600 small fraction of what it would cost to replace an 110 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:07.720 entire asphalt shingle roof. And if it helps you to 111 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:12.160 give you another five years or so. And for some 112 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:14.920 roofs who get caught early, who do this as a 113 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.000 maintenance thing, it'll go five years. They could spray it again. 114 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:22.120 I believe they've sometimes they've applied their spray up to 115 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:26.160 three times, which means fifteen years of extension of the 116 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:28.279 life of a roof. I'm not making any of those 117 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:31.560 promises for your roof because it's already showing some signs. 118 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.079 So the point is this, give them a call, have 119 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:38.560 someone come out and evaluate it. They will honestly tell you. 120 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.680 You know what, Lucy, I think your roof is passed. 121 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:46.360 Being able to guarantee this, you should call a roofer 122 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.120 or they'll tell you. You know, we'll give you a 123 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.240 price for this because we think it could really help. 124 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.839 But the process itself is a proven process. It is 125 00:07:55.879 --> 00:08:01.199 a soy oil based solution. It's completely non top it 126 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:04.120 doesn't hurt the construction, it doesn't hurt the roof at all. 127 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:11.160 And essentially it re moisturizes the essential asphalt elements that 128 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.160 are in the base of an asphalt shingle roof, so 129 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:18.360 it causes them to settle down, to lay back down, 130 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:24.079 to to resist cracking. And it really, really really can 131 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:27.959 extend the life of an existing roof and for a 132 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.519 lot of people, having a little bit longer time to 133 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:36.840 plan before replacement can be a massive, massive advantage. I'm 134 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.480 telling you right now, you will in the you know, 135 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:44.799 in the next five plus years, need to replace that roof, 136 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.879 but you could get a light extension from it by 137 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.039 the spraying process right now. 138 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:57.960 Okay, oh thank you Dean. You know, the shingles, they're 139 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:03.919 not very bad. This puffing is only in certain areas. 140 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:08.919 The shingles are not lifted or anything like that. And 141 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.559 I've been talking to my husband about it and he 142 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.960 keeps avoiding the issue, calling he doesn't know. He's in 143 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.600 the market shopping. So I took the opportunity to call you. 144 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:23.240 If I could ask you. 145 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.080 One question, go ahead. 146 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:32.120 Does this spraying of the soy spray with the sun 147 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.960 does it change the color of the shingles? 148 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.120 It does a little bit, but only in the best 149 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.559 of ways. What it doesn't do it doesn't discolor the shingles. 150 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:47.600 It brings their original tone back because it remoisturizes them. 151 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:51.759 It brings the original color back that has faded over 152 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:56.799 years of UV exposure. So it's all a good thing, Lucy, 153 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.919 It's all a good thing if it works for your 154 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.480 Like I said, go check out roof Max. I wish 155 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:04.960 they were a sponsor for the show because I could 156 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:08.840 bring him a lot of business. It's a solid, solid 157 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:13.600 option to extend the life of that roof. Lucy, thank 158 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:17.399 you so much for your call, my friend. And she's like, 159 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:20.440 I sent him to the market so that I could 160 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.120 secretly call you and get the infant. Oh he's he's 161 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.159 gonna get it when he comes home. All right, y'all more, 162 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:32.559 when we return your home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper, 163 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:36.720 Dam fine, Dean Sharp, the house Whisper at your service, 164 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.360 went a little long with Lucy, our caller in the 165 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.840 first segment and just explaining her roof condition. But I 166 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:48.679 thought it was worthwhile for everybody. Did not at the time, though, 167 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.080 realize that she and I were having kind of a 168 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:59.399 a a little design and construction twist on the side. 169 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:02.799 She had and her husband away to the store, to 170 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:06.440 the market and then called me on the side. So 171 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:12.399 that actually happens more often than you think. It's funny, 172 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.279 and sometimes it's not. And so I don't know. I 173 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.519 don't know if if Lucy's husband is just going to 174 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.879 cave in and say, all right, let's call the Roofmax 175 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.240 people and come out, or whether I'm going to get 176 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:27.240 an angry email. But sometimes it feels that way, you know, 177 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:31.759 like a partner will come home and say, you what what? Wait, 178 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.399 what's been going on while I was at work. I'm 179 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:41.000 off there earning the big dollars and you have invited 180 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.799 you've been seeing a designer and you didn't tell me 181 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:49.799 here in my own home a designer during the day. Yeah, 182 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:55.360 that actually is a thing. And so anyway, I'm glad 183 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:57.960 Lucy called me, but she should have told me upfront. 184 00:11:58.200 --> 00:11:59.879 She should have told me upfront so I could have 185 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:07.720 made the conscious choice to enter into this tryst knowingly anyway, Listen, 186 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:10.200 I went a little long. We're just going to take 187 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.639 a couple of minutes here to get back on schedule 188 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.120 with our breaks, and then we'll get back to it. 189 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.799 One of the things that I absolutely want to make 190 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:28.279 sure that you understand about where things have come lately 191 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.919 here in fire news is that Thursday, on Thursday, I 192 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:39.279 believe it was Thursday, Governor Newsom here in California issued 193 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.480 an executive order. Now there's been a little bit of 194 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.080 news coverage about this, but it was kind of highly technical, 195 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.399 so it got largely passed over, I think in general. 196 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:52.559 But you can find it if you're interested in seeing 197 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.960 what these new developments are by way of executive order 198 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:00.960 for fire conditions here in southern California and the state 199 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:04.559 as a whole, then go to well just to put 200 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.240 this in the Google winner, because the actual website that 201 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:09.320 I'm staring at here is one of those where you know, 202 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.240 all the little address details on the end are very 203 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:19.120 very long, but you'll find it at gov dot California 204 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:24.440 dot gov. Just go ahead and do a search for 205 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:32.919 Newsome Executive Order Zone zero. Okay, Newsome Executive Order Zone zero. 206 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.639 I guarantee you, it will come up and you can 207 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:38.039 actually read kind of the summary of it. This is 208 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:43.480 actually the governor's web page, the on the you know 209 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.720 California dot gov website. It essentially is this, my friends. 210 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:53.240 It is essentially the state of California having learned some 211 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:58.720 things finally about fire protection, about fire hardening, and about 212 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:02.840 the most criticals zones for homeowners to protect. Zone zero 213 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:08.799 is the first five feet of perimeter around your home. Okay, 214 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.559 that would include everything that wasn't specific about this, but 215 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:14.960 it's going to include everything from the edge of your home, 216 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:20.480 the wall itself, the eaves, the wall, yes, vents, that's 217 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.399 going to be a thing. Again, not specifically mentioned yet, 218 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:25.559 but it's going to be a thing all the way 219 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:28.559 out to five feet out. It also includes fencing if 220 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:32.840 fencing is within five feet of your home, and the 221 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:38.960 question is this ember proofing that area of your home. 222 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.519 You're also going to find in the next two or 223 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:46.679 three years zones or areas of southern California that weren't 224 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:51.679 previously marked as fire sensitive or fire risk areas are 225 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:56.879 going to be changed because we are really understanding again 226 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.600 because of embers, which were the leading call of the 227 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:05.240 massive devastation of these recent fires because of embers. Because 228 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.200 embers can travel two miles on the breeze and still 229 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:14.919 be capable of igniting things at your home. Then the 230 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:19.200 very definition of fire sensitive areas is going to grow. 231 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.399 It's going to expand from just those homes that are 232 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.240 pushed right up against open hillsides and open spaces. So 233 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:29.840 a lot of changes there that are coming, but they're 234 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:32.600 all good ones. They're all good ones. And with the 235 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:37.000 requirement for new construction and for major remodels is going 236 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:40.519 to come. As I've predicted for you, it's going to 237 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:44.840 come some changes required for every homeowner, especially if you 238 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.919 live in those new zones. And it all just boils 239 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.519 down to this. I want every single one of you 240 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:57.000 to set aside the not large amount of money to 241 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:59.759 change out the vents of your home and begin to 242 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:04.519 work zone zero. And now the state of California getting 243 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:07.759 very very serious about zone zero. All right, more in 244 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.759 that as we go. You're listening to Home with Dean 245 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:17.840 Sharp on demand from KFI AM six forty KFI AM 246 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:20.840 six forty live streaming in eight D everywhere on the 247 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:24.960 iHeartRadio app. You are Home with Dean Sharp. The House whisper. 248 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:31.200 That's me. I am so enjoying time on Saturday mornings 249 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:33.879 with you, just taking calls and then talking about some 250 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.279 issues along the way. Of course, I always get addicted 251 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:40.960 to the calls, and I confess that, but that's fine. 252 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:42.960 That leaves more things for me to talk about with 253 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:45.879 you the next week. I am going to continue to 254 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.919 do just that because we've got calls on the board, 255 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:51.360 and so let's talk to. 256 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:53.600 Jay. 257 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:59.039 Hey, J, welcome home, Good morning. 258 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:04.240 I need some from here. I'm on the one yard 259 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:09.039 of a month major home renovation. J J. 260 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.039 You're broken up a little bit, you know. Do you 261 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:15.279 have me on speaker? If if? If so, take it 262 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.000 off because I'm hearing like every third word from you. 263 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:22.200 I just bat you're not on speaker. Maybe batter said? 264 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:23.000 Is that any better? 265 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:25.920 That's a little bit better? Okay? What what do you 266 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:26.519 got going on? 267 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:28.200 Okay? 268 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:31.640 So we're finishing a major home renovation. The one we 269 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.799 still have is the hanging one into your door. It's 270 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.079 a steel door. We're going to use an in swing 271 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:42.759 for our dining room. Right now we have a rough 272 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:46.440 open cut out with drives on both sides. We're facing 273 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.960 two issues here. The contractor saying the rough opening is 274 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:55.240 big door, the door thirty by eighty rough opening is 275 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:59.160 thirty two by eighty one and a quarter or something. 276 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:02.680 And the second, as he said, these steel doors are 277 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:07.920 very narrow, and the way to proceed to finish off 278 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:13.920 the completely with dryall the door on of that the 279 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:16.880 door company is saying no no with these doors and 280 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.680 directly to the rough opening work frame and then you 281 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:23.920 sit in the drywall for that. So I guess I 282 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.759 mean your experience with having steel door and the narrow frame. 283 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:29.359 How do you go about this? 284 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:35.960 Yeah, well, my general advice to you. Now, I know 285 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:38.359 it was still kind of breaking up, but I got 286 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:40.279 the gist of it. I hope all of our listeners 287 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:43.119 did as well. But my general advice to you is this, 288 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:48.160 when it comes to a particular product being installed in 289 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.920 a home, okay, uh, there are occasions when a contractor 290 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:57.960 can deviate from standards and practices specified by that product 291 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:02.240 or that manufacture and do their own thing because we've 292 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:04.839 got a crazy idea and it's going to work and 293 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:07.359 it's going to be great and so on. But if 294 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:10.920 there is a discrepancy between like what the contractor wants 295 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:14.000 to do and what the steel door company is saying 296 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:19.000 to do default to the door company. It's their product. 297 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:24.319 You don't want to end up, you know, moving away 298 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:28.920 from their recommendations. So whatever the door guy is saying about, hey, 299 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:32.440 this is how this door really should be treated and 300 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:36.880 installed in this wall. That is the first and primary 301 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:40.720 person I am listening to, not just a builder who 302 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:43.920 may or may not be super familiar with this particular product, 303 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:45.759 or who may or may not have done it one 304 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.119 hundred times or never done it before in this kind 305 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:53.200 of condition. This is when I hold a general contractor's 306 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:55.680 toes or feet to the fire and I say, listen, 307 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.680 you can install this the way the manufacturer says it 308 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.400 needs to be installed, so that you know, and if 309 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:05.839 you're telling me that, okay, but here's the problem with that, 310 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:09.720 that's fine. I'm opening to listening to that. But generally speaking, 311 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:14.000 unless there is some giant roadblock in the way, install 312 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.559 this the way the manufacturer says it needs to be installed. 313 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:23.319 Okay, in your spirits these first, do you hang them 314 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:27.680 directly in the wood, You finish them first, and then 315 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:28.480 top of the. 316 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:33.279 It can vary, It can vary, It really can vary. 317 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:38.799 But generally speaking, steel doors usually get hung directly to 318 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.319 the wood and then we finish them off right. But 319 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.680 it can vary depending on the manufacture because there there 320 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.000 isn't just one. Oh this is how steel doors work 321 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:51.559 in an opening. There are hundreds of steel door manufacturers 322 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:54.599 and they all have their specific way that they want 323 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:56.920 their door treated. That's why I'm saying, if this is 324 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.440 the door that you've chosen, if this is the door 325 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.880 that you want, then you deal with that manufacture and 326 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.839 you ask them what is the optimal way, because you know, 327 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.000 the contractor doesn't have to live with the fact that 328 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.359 fifteen twenty years from now this door is not working properly, 329 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:14.880 but you do, so I want it installed the way 330 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:19.839 that this manufacturer is specifying best for this situation. 331 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:23.839 Got it, Okay, thank you so much. 332 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.279 You are so welcome, Jay, appreciate the call, buddy. All 333 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:30.559 right more when we return your home with Dean Sharp, 334 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:37.000 the house whisper, Jayfi, Dean Sharp the house whisper, Welcome home. Hey, 335 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.039 thanks again for spending the morning with me. We're not 336 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.440 done yet. I'm going to try and fit in one 337 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:45.960 more call. Let's talk to Richard. Hey, Richard, welcome home. 338 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:53.960 Good morning, Dean I've got a question on adu's and 339 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:59.240 whether you like to see them attached to the main 340 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:01.119 house or kept separate. 341 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.160 Oh okay, good question. Good question. ADU an accessory, dwelling 342 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:12.920 unit aka guest house, guest residents, granny flat, casida, whatever 343 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:18.240 you want to call it. Here. So, whether I like 344 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.400 to see it or whether others like to see it, 345 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:27.960 here's the thing. As far as you're planning out your ADU. I, 346 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:34.240 as I always say, an expansion of the existing home 347 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:38.200 is always tricky. It's always tricky. You have to do 348 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:41.680 it very carefully. Most people don't do it carefully, and 349 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:44.519 as a result, they end up messing up something about 350 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:48.039 the functionality of the existing house. Your existing house was 351 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.319 designed to have certain windows, certain natural light coming into 352 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.240 certain rooms, and all of a sudden we pop another 353 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:57.519 room out there, and we always have to ask the question, 354 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:02.480 how does that render the room we left behind? Have 355 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:03.880 we darkened it? You know? 356 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:04.000 How? 357 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.079 We how we screwed up what we left behind just 358 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.000 to expand the house envelope, which of course is what 359 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.640 an ADU, if it's an expansion, would be. If an 360 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:20.119 ADU is simply taking and allocating a particular room in 361 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:22.519 the house or a space in the house, which also, 362 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.519 by the way, can be the case like the garage. 363 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.559 In California, garages are allowed to be turned into ADUs, 364 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.279 so now we're not messing up anything because it's already 365 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:35.240 there doing its thing. So if we're if we're taking 366 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:40.160 an existing room and we're we're transitioning that into an ADU, 367 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:43.799 that's one thing. If we're expanding the house, just like 368 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:49.240 any kind of remodel in which we're actually expanding the 369 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.440 footprint of the house, a room addition got to be 370 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.640 really careful how that's done from a design perspective, so 371 00:23:55.680 --> 00:24:00.160 that we're not destroying design quality and design value in 372 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:05.279 the home. As far as functionality is concerned and the 373 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:08.000 question of whether it should be attached or whether it 374 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:10.839 should be detached, there are a lot of factors that 375 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:15.000 come into play there. Sometimes keeping it attached means lower 376 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:21.720 cost because you can sometimes not always, but sometimes take 377 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.559 advantage of the existing plumbing and sewer lines that are 378 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:29.319 in the home and just simply extend them. Not always 379 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.039 the case, less often than you might think, by the way, 380 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:35.519 just because of the depth of the plumbing at that place, 381 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:39.200 as opposed to setting it all the way across the yard. 382 00:24:39.559 --> 00:24:43.440 In terms of privacy, obviously, detaching something and putting it 383 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:47.960 in the backyard some where gives everybody more privacy and 384 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.880 everybody a bigger sense of space. But that's a whole 385 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:55.359 another endeavor unto itself, and then at least here in California, 386 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.960 in terms of law and legality, it's a question also 387 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.720 so potentially of you know, what are your future plans 388 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:06.559 for future ADUs. Not a lot of people understand this, 389 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.359 but an ADU that is attached to the home is 390 00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:14.960 considered an ADU junior, and you still, even after that, 391 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:20.200 are allowed to have a full ADU or a detached 392 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:25.319 ADU in most circumstances elsewhere on your property. So yeah, 393 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:32.960 two ADUs are potentially possible on every property. One a 394 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.279 junior which would be part of the house primary, the 395 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:42.200 other detached. So those are all factors to take into consideration. 396 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:48.000 From a pure design perspective, it's a question of does 397 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:53.240 the detached unit offer more design value than one attached 398 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:56.519 to the house. Does one attached to the house screw 399 00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.880 up something that's already in existence of the house, And 400 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:05.000 I would never ever ever encourage somebody to do that. 401 00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:08.119