Speaker 1: It's nice eyes Danny Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: We're talking about plane crashes here tonight and trying to
Speaker 2: find out if recent crashes. Obviously one in Washington, we
Speaker 2: took sixty seven lives, one in Toronto in which eighty
Speaker 2: people were bored. Thankfully none of them died and barely
Speaker 2: none in you know, critical injury. It's amazing that anybody
Speaker 2: walked away from that flight. Has that changed your attitude
Speaker 2: towards flying? Has it made you less likely? I know
Speaker 2: that there's a certain number of people out there who
Speaker 2: refuse to fly. I get it. I get it. It's
Speaker 2: an uncomfortable feeling if you're not if you think, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm up in the air here, I've lost
Speaker 2: I don't have any control driving a car. You're in
Speaker 2: control on a train. Although people die and train crashes,
Speaker 2: most people think, well, the trains are going to run
Speaker 2: off the tracks. I mean, I'm going to be okay,
Speaker 2: although they sometimes do. But planes are a different story.
Speaker 2: Most of the time. There are a few survivors, if any.
Speaker 2: The Toronto crash was just the opposite. So I want
Speaker 2: to hear from you. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty or six seven nine three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We've been pretty lucky in this country. I think the
Speaker 2: last big plane crash we had was a plane crash
Speaker 2: in Buffalo, New York, in twenty ten. So we went
Speaker 2: about fifteen years or so without a bad plane crash,
Speaker 2: and then we had the plane crash on the Potomac,
Speaker 2: which was reminiscent of a plane crash back in the
Speaker 2: nineteen eighties of the Potomac. Let's get to the calls.
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear from as many of you as possible.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Dawn in New Hampshire. Was kind
Speaker 2: enough to hold through the news. Dawn. I appreciate your patience.
Speaker 2: We lost a couple of callers during the newscast. You're
Speaker 2: next on night side, any of you.
Speaker 3: Good evening, Dan, good evening.
Speaker 2: That's better. I don't know what you did to your phone,
Speaker 2: but you sound great. Now, go right ahead.
Speaker 3: I turned off the radio of my truck here and
Speaker 3: just put it on speaker. I have not changed my
Speaker 3: attitude about flying. I have flown for business at times
Speaker 3: three and four times a week, maybe not too long,
Speaker 3: a lot of Boston to New York, Boston to Washington,
Speaker 3: quite a bit. I've flown I've shown a flown to
Speaker 3: New Zealand about a year ago, and I've gone. I've
Speaker 3: flown to Europe a couple of times, So we're not
Speaker 3: really afraid of anything about that. I think the planes
Speaker 3: are are very safe. My wife and I are big
Speaker 3: fans of a program called Air Disasters on the Smithsonian Channel,
Speaker 3: which we've got to learn a lot about what it
Speaker 3: takes to go and it does not scare us from
Speaker 3: watching it. Really, it's it's more like, wow, look at this.
Speaker 3: And when you watch the programs, you see that a
Speaker 3: lot of the issues that have fallen about the plane
Speaker 3: crashes were frequently overseas, not too much here in the US.
Speaker 3: And I think in generally you're a lot safer in
Speaker 3: the air than you are on the ground. Are certainly
Speaker 3: a lot safer than going through a tunnel in Boston.
Speaker 3: You never know when the top might fall on you.
Speaker 2: Well, I saw that video the other day and that
Speaker 2: was reminiscent of the tiles that fell back in I
Speaker 2: guess it was when Mitt Romney was governor in the
Speaker 2: Tip O'Neil tunnel. Yeah, you just never know. I mean
Speaker 2: there were amazingly no one hurt. The other day I
Speaker 2: think that the statistics still show that in terms of
Speaker 2: passenger miles, the numbers of miles people on airplanes fly,
Speaker 2: it's statistically safer to be on an airplane than it
Speaker 2: is to be in a car. But I think all
Speaker 2: of us are a heck of a lot more used
Speaker 2: to being in an automobile, and we feel we're under
Speaker 2: We control the car, we don't control the plane.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I kind of doubt the whole thing on
Speaker 3: the pilots after COVID shot.
Speaker 2: I know no idea what we're going to do with that.
Speaker 2: I hate to challenge people, but you know again, I
Speaker 2: just as soon as you're saying to me, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: the media keeps it undercovered. The media is still competitive,
Speaker 2: and if there's a story, it just that is, you
Speaker 2: know it. Does the media have a certain political biases,
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, But a story is a story, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get it. A major
Speaker 2: story they're going to cover up. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: But that's neither here nor there. But it was good
Speaker 2: news that he told me that we wore a certain
Speaker 2: sort of suit cloth suit so in case there's a
Speaker 2: fire on the plane, he'll be okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They also should not wear flip flops or cross
Speaker 3: they should be wearing ready to do anyway, thank you
Speaker 3: very much for taking my call.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Don talk to you soon. Okay, thanks very much.
Speaker 2: I got to take a quick break. I got two
Speaker 2: of my favorite callers coming up, William in Baltimore, Laurie
Speaker 2: and Idaho, and I got room for some new callers here,
Speaker 2: folks six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. If
Speaker 2: you never called nightside, I invite you to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: Are you still somebody who is who looks forward to flying?
Speaker 2: I don't to be honest with you. I remember when
Speaker 2: I was working as a TV reporter, I had either
Speaker 2: a record player or tape deck back in the day.
Speaker 2: That'll date me and I used to love playing the
Speaker 2: Willie Nelson song on the road again. I remember one
Speaker 2: Friday they called me and said, hey, got Germany the hostages.
Speaker 2: There's there's new hostages going. Hostage families going over some
Speaker 2: of the marine people who are killed at the Bay
Speaker 2: Root bomb blast. There were like two hundred and forty
Speaker 2: three Marines and there were some survivors, including one young
Speaker 2: man from Massachusetts, and we went over and met him
Speaker 2: and his family there and literally flew on Friday Friday
Speaker 2: night from Boston and Frankfort. We had to fly to
Speaker 2: London on Saturday morning so we could edit, and then
Speaker 2: back to Frankfort to get home on Sunday. We you know,
Speaker 2: we did like nine thousand miles and I think forty
Speaker 2: five hours and filed reports on two days. But that
Speaker 2: was that was challenging. It was fun. Fine, isn't fun anymore.
Speaker 2: But I just putting data aside, putting the fact that
Speaker 2: it is too crowded and the seats are too small
Speaker 2: and there's not enough room for not enough leg room,
Speaker 2: and the baggage bins are too small, and they've crowded
Speaker 2: too many people in there is more importantly, have the
Speaker 2: plane crashes and the near problems of the last few days.
Speaker 2: We had one out of Atlanta today smoking the cockpit.
Speaker 2: You're in a car, you're smoking the plane, I should say,
Speaker 2: just not in the cockpit. And I saw that video tonight.
Speaker 2: That was that was a nasty situation that those people
Speaker 2: had to tolerate as they they went back to Atlanta. Okay,
Speaker 2: we got six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty
Speaker 2: one line there and six one, seven, nine, three, one,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. We're coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: One of my best callers, my friend William from Baltimore
Speaker 2: or William? Welcome? How are you sir?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 5: Now you're going, Darren and talk to you for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, right, that's all right. Glad to hear
Speaker 2: your voice tonight. So I know that that you have
Speaker 2: told me in the past you were blind, but but
Speaker 2: you have traveled by air. How are you feeling about
Speaker 2: it these days?
Speaker 5: Well, then I'll tell you what. I'll fly, right, and
Speaker 5: I'm going to fly in July going to a convention
Speaker 5: for the Blurn in New Orleans.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: I went there a year before last on Southwestern Direct.
Speaker 5: Like last year I went to Chicago, and the year
Speaker 5: before that I went to UH act him and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, I fly. I'm gonna tell you I agree
Speaker 5: with the guy as far as uh. I think it's
Speaker 5: a hassle. You're gonna go into ts A and uh
Speaker 5: and you know when you gotta take your set off
Speaker 5: and you know, one time a guy they're gonna they
Speaker 5: go search the guide. Now he wants to play and
Speaker 5: all that. You know, Yeah, yeah, a hassle man.
Speaker 7: But other than that, once again, would seemed to me
Speaker 7: that if I was a T S A guy, a person,
Speaker 7: I'd be a little more respectful of you than the
Speaker 7: average fire Do you feel like that, you get that
Speaker 7: you that you're.
Speaker 2: Respected as someone who's who's you know, dealing with the disability.
Speaker 2: And I say this on I kind of imagine how
Speaker 2: difficult your life might be, your life must be if
Speaker 2: I lost, if I were to have lost my vision.
Speaker 5: So they are, yeah, some of them are nice, and
Speaker 5: some of them, you know on the spire them you know,
Speaker 5: some of them, you know, they're just a by the boat.
Speaker 5: But one thing I am about all the airlines, Uh they
Speaker 5: let through pre board. So I like that, you know,
Speaker 5: But I was remna use talking last week. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: tell you what I hate. When the plane lands and
Speaker 5: they tell everybody to say seated and tell the plane
Speaker 5: gets city gate and remember you say, people stand up
Speaker 5: and uh, you know they're taking things out the bens
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna talk. I'm six foot three, so I
Speaker 5: always like to sit on the aisle you know. When
Speaker 5: I had my dog, though, I used to sit in
Speaker 5: the middle because I had to put him up under
Speaker 5: the seat and then people want to pet him and
Speaker 5: bother him and all.
Speaker 6: That, you know.
Speaker 5: And I used to say, please leave it out alone.
Speaker 5: He's working, you know. But people will hit you with
Speaker 5: bags and everything. And as far as like driving, look,
Speaker 5: I lived in Denver, I lived in Baltimore. So I
Speaker 5: had this white idea. I was gonna take a boyhound
Speaker 5: to Denver.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: I was on that busck for forty eight hours when
Speaker 5: and uh that that broke me out. O that brooke
Speaker 5: me out. That I was playing two hundred dollars and
Speaker 5: I found out that uh, punt Tier will fly me
Speaker 5: home for one hundred and ninety round trip, you know,
Speaker 5: and I have to take the Red Eye, you know,
Speaker 5: and be in Baltimore in the morning. Leave leave b
Speaker 5: I a like at the eleventh at night and getting
Speaker 5: Baltimore at five am, you know. So you know, I
Speaker 5: was like, man, you know, so I've flown a lot,
Speaker 5: you know, But like you said, for the most fun people,
Speaker 5: you know, the airline people, they're putty court this. I
Speaker 5: really don't have no problem with them, but it's just
Speaker 5: that the TSA and with the shoes because sometimes, you
Speaker 5: know what I found out, sometimes they'll make you take
Speaker 5: your shoes off of the line, and sometimes they won't,
Speaker 5: you know, so I'll be like, man, I wish I
Speaker 5: would just be consistent, you know, but uh, because but
Speaker 5: other than that, yes, I think flying has gotten you know.
Speaker 5: I first leave the year that been Lumbias got killed
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty six. That was my first flying because I
Speaker 5: remember he died just before this convention I was going
Speaker 5: to in Tansas City.
Speaker 2: Majority he died the day or the night after that.
Speaker 2: He get drafted number one by the Celtics.
Speaker 5: Yes, I remember it. Well, yeah, yeah, so yeah, Dan,
Speaker 5: you know I enjoyed flying. But yeah, of course, let's see,
Speaker 5: I'm the type of flyer like this, like I told
Speaker 5: my brother, because he flies a lot too, because he
Speaker 5: goes to a lot of spoiling, you know. But I
Speaker 5: just say, I say a player, man, and I not
Speaker 5: being able to see, I don't know what's going on anyway,
Speaker 5: I'm like you. I've always heard that the plane makes
Speaker 5: it makes a good takeoff on the good land, and
Speaker 5: that's the most dangerous part of plying. Right there, once
Speaker 5: you get in.
Speaker 2: My opinion, and we've seen that in the well, both
Speaker 2: the Toronto case and in the Potomac case as well. William,
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to hear your voice. My friend is
Speaker 2: always well all right, and we're gonna watch those Orioles
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, I think they oh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they do it a lot better.
Speaker 5: They do a lot better.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, great fur ten thirty, we're gonna
Speaker 2: go from William, who's a great guy in Baltimore, to Laurie,
Speaker 2: who's a great woman in Idaho. I'm so lucky to
Speaker 2: have William and Laurie as regular listeners. Hey, Laurie, welcome back.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 9: That sounds like a college I'm doing well. Happy moon Day,
Speaker 9: Oh Moan Day.
Speaker 2: You were the one that taught me that. And you
Speaker 2: know something, I mentioned that to someone today. I was
Speaker 2: talking to someone asked me how the day was gone.
Speaker 2: I said, it's a typical Moan day. Yeah, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you mondays, get me down, trust.
Speaker 9: Me, Yeah exactly. So anyway, it's almost over.
Speaker 2: So that's okay. No no, no, no, no, no, we're fine.
Speaker 2: We're okay, We're okay. So are you you look forward
Speaker 2: to flying or no?
Speaker 9: No, These days.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 9: I mean I've flown a lot and I've been on
Speaker 9: the airplane since I was two years old, So I've
Speaker 9: flown a lot and I.
Speaker 3: Always loved it.
Speaker 9: I love to take off. I mean I did, but
Speaker 9: I first of all become miserable and because of you know,
Speaker 9: all the overcrowding of the planes for the most part.
Speaker 9: But so when we had that disaster give me down
Speaker 9: in Washington, I got to see, I've had I've been
Speaker 9: on a lot of flights. I haven't had any anything
Speaker 9: really bad. There's, like you said, there's have been interesting landings,
Speaker 9: but I always find them kind of exciting. And I thought, wow,
Speaker 9: I've been flying a lot and nothing's really happened. What
Speaker 9: if I do? And so that I thought, you know,
Speaker 9: the bad things coming three. So we had the one
Speaker 9: and the two and I thought, all right, I'm not
Speaker 9: going to fly for and then there were three. Then
Speaker 9: there were four. So it hasn't really deterred me. But
Speaker 9: I think I'll maybe be more careful about flying in winter.
Speaker 9: And what airport I'm going to like, Not one that
Speaker 9: shares the airspace with training helicopters.
Speaker 2: Well that was what's crazy. I mean, it's in the law.
Speaker 2: You always talk about the concept of foreseeability in terms
Speaker 2: of twenty cases injury cases. And you know, the example
Speaker 2: that's always given is someone you know, breaks a bottle
Speaker 2: of ketchup in Aisle five and it doesn't get cleaned up.
Speaker 2: Was pretty foreseeable. Somebody could walk down and then slip
Speaker 2: and slide and fall and hurt themselves. I think about you.
Speaker 2: You got at night, you got helicopter pilots in the
Speaker 2: same uh you know area. As as planes coming in,
Speaker 2: it's just.
Speaker 9: Below that level. But well they're all supposed to stay
Speaker 9: below the level. The other thing that that happened is
Speaker 9: that would it get brought up occasionally. But that plane
Speaker 9: at the last minute ish kind of took a different
Speaker 9: route in. They took a different you know, approach to
Speaker 9: a different runway. They took a shorter runway or a
Speaker 9: closer runway for whatever reason, I don't know, and I
Speaker 9: don't think the pilots of the helicopter necessarily got that information.
Speaker 2: Well, they'll do this story. Well, it'll be a story,
Speaker 2: uh you know, nine months from now next to Christmas,
Speaker 2: and you'll hear about the cause of the accident and
Speaker 2: it'll all be in our rearview Mira and it'll be Yeah.
Speaker 2: My family said that for them, these people are gone gone.
Speaker 2: I look back on air travel and I look at this,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, you know, it's great. If
Speaker 2: you've got to fly from from the East coast to
Speaker 2: the west coast, where do you fly out of an Idaho?
Speaker 2: Do you got to go to Boise to get it?
Speaker 2: To get an airplane? Anywhere? Where do you got to go?
Speaker 4: Brocan?
Speaker 9: I can either go four and a half hours with Missoula,
Speaker 9: which I hate Missoula. Bocan is half decent, and I'm
Speaker 9: about an hour from Spokane.
Speaker 2: Missoula is east of you, is it it?
Speaker 3: That's Montana, Yes it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, that's where.
Speaker 9: But it's where Montana kind of jets out and gets
Speaker 9: so if I wanted to, Because it depends on the flight,
Speaker 9: it's not every flight, not every air perier flight. But
Speaker 9: Bocan is actually pretty decent. And I've been in now
Speaker 9: there a couple of times. But when I was back
Speaker 9: and forth from New England to Montana, Midula was the place.
Speaker 9: But from here it is Spokane, which is much more doable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, Well Spokane of Missoula. It sounds like
Speaker 2: Spokane to me.
Speaker 9: If oh yeah, for totally absolutely no. Misoela Air Force sucks.
Speaker 9: So I got to thinking, you know, the p s
Speaker 9: A checkpoints and all that, I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 9: through the special Wandi place now, which.
Speaker 2: Is gonna suck because of my hip.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Actually, I mean they have those, they have those new
Speaker 9: like star Trek X ray or kind of things. I
Speaker 9: wonder if that that clears it now, But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be simple for you. And
Speaker 2: when they when you say, hey, you know, I got
Speaker 2: some some some metal in me or whatever, you light
Speaker 2: it up and they're gonna accept that.
Speaker 9: Well, so my dark croud my dad forever, and he
Speaker 9: had replacement knees, so they pulled him aside. But at
Speaker 9: least they just wanted everything. He didn't have to take
Speaker 9: his shoes off, he didn't have to so empty his pockets.
Speaker 9: But so, I don't know, maybe maybe they'll have magic
Speaker 9: machines that catch it all in one.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Well, that's gonna be freaky, I know.
Speaker 2: But that's okay. Hopefully you hip feels better.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they feel great?
Speaker 2: Thanks all right, Okay, thanks by f take quick break
Speaker 2: here at the bottom of the ear. I get a
Speaker 2: couple of lines at six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Got one line at six one seven, nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. Kind of an easy Monday night here.
Speaker 2: We're just talking about flying on airplanes. Most of us
Speaker 2: have done it. If there's anyone else, well, I know
Speaker 2: someone who's very close to me who's never flown on
Speaker 2: an airplane. I'm not going to out that person. But
Speaker 2: there are people who I'm sure have made it a
Speaker 2: life choice that they would never fly on an airplane. Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it. But I'm wondering if some of this
Speaker 2: state of airline crashes that we have sadly all witnessed
Speaker 2: in the last I don't know, six weeks or so
Speaker 2: five or maybe less than that four weeks, if that
Speaker 2: has caused you to rethink how often you'll fly or
Speaker 2: how far you fly. I haven't come to that conclusion yet,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure some of you have. And if you
Speaker 2: want to tell me a an airplane story, that's always welcome.
Speaker 2: As Homer Simpson would say, I love stories. Six one
Speaker 2: seven The only line is six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty. Got one open there. If you're dialing
Speaker 2: right now, we'll get you on. I promise six, one, seven, two,
Speaker 2: ten thirty coming back on night Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about airplane travel and i'd love to
Speaker 2: know you're feeling if you are feeling just a little
Speaker 2: uncomfortable after these last two big plane crashes and some
Speaker 2: small crashes in between. Let me go to Joan in
Speaker 2: Rhode Island. Hi, Joan, welcome, How.
Speaker 11: Are you hi?
Speaker 4: I'm Will.
Speaker 2: Is this Joan who I know from Rhode Island? Or
Speaker 2: have you called before?
Speaker 4: I'll call once before, several years ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, there's there's another Joan who was called in
Speaker 2: from I think she was in Slovakia one time and California. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so go ahead, Joan.
Speaker 4: I saw you at Logan Airport on January twenty third,
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty two, at the end of the runway where
Speaker 4: the plane plied into Boston Harbor. You came on board.
Speaker 2: Did you see me on TV? Did you see me
Speaker 2: there in person?
Speaker 4: I saw you there in person. You came aboard the
Speaker 4: bus that they loaded us onto. Because they didn't know
Speaker 4: what to do this, they finally sent to bus and
Speaker 4: from the people who got off the plane and you
Speaker 4: came on board, and you were wanting to know what
Speaker 4: was going on, but all of us passengers wanted to
Speaker 4: know what was going on too. And anyway, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Were on the World Airways flight that slid off the runway.
Speaker 4: Yes, World, they have flight thirty from Oakland and then
Speaker 4: we stopped in Newark, Yes, and it was there was
Speaker 4: an ice storm there, yes, And that's where people got
Speaker 4: off and the Metcalf people got on.
Speaker 2: And what do you think that that they basically went
Speaker 2: into the Harvard drowned.
Speaker 4: I get, I think so. I never, like you said,
Speaker 4: they were never found that I heard of. They were
Speaker 4: sitting in the from what I understand they were, you know,
Speaker 4: they were happy to get on last minute. Well, some
Speaker 4: people got off and they got in the front seats, well.
Speaker 2: What we call the bulkhead seats.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm not sure. I thought that.
Speaker 2: Got a lot of leg rooms.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, row behind the pilot and and the nose
Speaker 4: of the plane broke off into the water, and and
Speaker 4: that first row of seats went into the water from
Speaker 4: and I think a couple of the stewardesses or attendants
Speaker 4: went in the water, but they were rescued and I
Speaker 4: was in the middle of the plane on the left wing.
Speaker 8: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question. How soon did
Speaker 2: after that did you fly again?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Within a couple of months. Yeah, I flew several times after.
Speaker 4: I haven't flown in a few years now because I
Speaker 4: don't like to drive.
Speaker 2: How much courage did you need that?
Speaker 4: No? Not none?
Speaker 2: Really? Okay?
Speaker 4: That well, that Harbor plane crash had taken place about
Speaker 4: ten days earlier, with the plane and over the Potomac.
Speaker 8: Hit the bridge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that bridge, Yeah, fourteen. I couldn't remember this
Speaker 4: Witch Street, but that has had happened. Yeah, but that
Speaker 4: didn't stop me from going on my trip to be
Speaker 4: my brother in Oakland. And it was on the way
Speaker 4: home that that my mishap happened. But I haven't flown
Speaker 4: in a few years, mostly because I don't like having
Speaker 4: to go to Boston and not a lot, not a
Speaker 4: lot of flights from Providence Warwick go where I want
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 2: Right by the way. But you remember the name there
Speaker 2: was the guy. Oh, his name was Lenny Scuttneck. He
Speaker 2: was the guy who did who has saved some people's
Speaker 2: lives on that flight. I worked for the federal government,
Speaker 2: and he was just like walking home from.
Speaker 4: Work that night in Washington or buston in Washington. In Washington, Oh, no,
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't remember that.
Speaker 2: He was twenty eight. It said he was going home
Speaker 2: on January thirteen with the boweling seven thirty seven hit
Speaker 2: the bridge and fell into the Potomac. There were I
Speaker 2: guess there was seventy seventy seventy four passages, and only
Speaker 2: six of them survived. And I think he was involved
Speaker 2: in pulling at least some of them out of the water.
Speaker 2: Joe and I enjoyed the call very much. I look
Speaker 2: forward to the next time we chast Well.
Speaker 4: I listened to you all the time. I didn't turn
Speaker 4: on till late later than usual tonight, but I heard
Speaker 4: you talking about, Uh, my flight had.
Speaker 2: An experience that I shared a little bit.
Speaker 4: One one one lesson. One quick lesson I did learn
Speaker 4: is to listen to the directions to not unfasten your
Speaker 4: seatbelt as soon as the plane lands.
Speaker 2: Uhcause you and it just skidded, it never.
Speaker 4: Kept it kept right. It hit a pilot.
Speaker 2: I believe did you know after it landed that you
Speaker 2: that the plane was in trouble because it was.
Speaker 4: Just yes, no, it wasn't going that fast. It just
Speaker 4: kept going and going, and it was it was the
Speaker 4: ice storm was still going on. And the one thing
Speaker 4: know not to it slowed down. After you hit the
Speaker 4: piling and then the wiley, the nose of the plane
Speaker 4: went into the water. It wasn't that deep. I got
Speaker 4: I got off the opposite wing exit and walked down
Speaker 4: the wings down to the with a shallow The water
Speaker 4: was the most shallow. But the thing is, don't take
Speaker 4: your seat belt off after they say leave it on.
Speaker 4: Still it's a complete stop because at least one person
Speaker 4: had taken off her seat belt and she flew over
Speaker 4: the seats and I don't know if she broke her back,
Speaker 4: and she badly hurt her back. So do follow that direction.
Speaker 2: All right? Thanks John, We'll talk soon. Thanks again, and
Speaker 2: beat call more often. Thanks John, appreciate it. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Jamie and Worcester. Jamie your next nightside. I
Speaker 2: want to get you in here before the break, right ahead, Jamie.
Speaker 10: Okay, I'll make you quick. I've only flowed three times
Speaker 10: in my life, twice to Florida and wants to Spain.
Speaker 10: When my brother was on an inter internship in Barcelona
Speaker 10: and everything went fine.
Speaker 8: I have no problems, so.
Speaker 10: You know, I I just think that, you know, you
Speaker 10: can't worry about it. You gotta go on the plane.
Speaker 10: You gotta go on a kay whatever, it's gonna be
Speaker 10: what it's gonna be. If you're gonna die, that's gonna
Speaker 10: be the thing that that's gonna be a thing. You
Speaker 10: can't control it.
Speaker 2: You know, there's no question about that. So you're you're
Speaker 2: a bit of a fatalist that that what what is
Speaker 2: planned for you is gonna happen or not happen.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you just I just can't worry about it. I mean,
Speaker 10: it's gonna do what I gotta do. If I have
Speaker 10: to go to Florida, if I have to travel on
Speaker 10: a plane, I do it, and whatever happens happens. And
Speaker 10: the only thing I think of when you're talking about
Speaker 10: this topic is John Madden. He even want to did
Speaker 10: he not?
Speaker 9: Was he afraid of play?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? He Uh that's he didn't want to want
Speaker 2: to fly. Now again, I assumed there were times when
Speaker 2: he had to fly long you know, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: I think there was also his choice. Now he could
Speaker 2: do that as a broadcaster. He couldn't do it as
Speaker 2: a coach. I'm sure that he had to fly as
Speaker 2: a coach, meaning if they played a game, let's say
Speaker 2: against I don't know, you know, an East Coast team
Speaker 2: that the Jets are the Patriots, and they were home
Speaker 2: the next Sunday in Oakland. Uh. Yeah, you know, you
Speaker 2: can't spend four days driving across the country in a
Speaker 2: bus if you're the coach. He was able to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as a broadcaster. There was a Red Sox player. Uh,
Speaker 2: probably you don't remember. He was a very good right fielder.
Speaker 2: His name was Jackie Jensen and he actually he had
Speaker 2: played in the Rose Bowl. He was a kind of
Speaker 2: a double threat athlete. He was a great football player
Speaker 2: and and and played for the Red Sox and was
Speaker 2: a really good player at a time when the Red
Speaker 2: Sox didn't have a lot of really good players. And
Speaker 2: in those days, all of the American League teams were
Speaker 2: grouped in the northeast Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore, and New York.
Speaker 2: The Red Sox, the Senators, I think the furthest west
Speaker 2: they ever they went was Kansas City. And he was
Speaker 2: fine because they did all travel by trains. But once
Speaker 2: the American League expanded and you had a team in
Speaker 2: Minnesota and then Los Angeles, the Angels and the Twins,
Speaker 2: and he knew it'd have to fly. He ended his
Speaker 2: base major league baseball career just didn't want to fly.
Speaker 2: As Casey Stinger would say, you can look it up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 10: Just one more thing.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 10: Lebron James's son doesn't like to travel and that's why
Speaker 10: the ge League he only plays the home games.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought you were going to make a a
Speaker 2: basketball joke that he doesn't like to travel and that's
Speaker 2: that's why he passes so much. Yeah, no, I got it. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think radio too.
Speaker 10: A kid doesn't want to go, you know, you want
Speaker 10: to play the NBA and he doesn't want to travel
Speaker 10: on a plane.
Speaker 2: That's come on, That's all they do is travel on
Speaker 2: planes because they're playing on a Tuesday night in LA
Speaker 2: and they're playing in Philadelphia on Thursday. Look at I'm
Speaker 2: I still marvel at how many planes the major league
Speaker 2: teams take, particularly the teams that fly in winter hockey
Speaker 2: and in basketball that they get some bad weather. There
Speaker 2: was a plane crash in Russia a few years ago
Speaker 2: when one of what you know, they have a professional
Speaker 2: hockey league over there called the Continental Hockey League, And
Speaker 2: it was a plane crash that I think it took
Speaker 2: the life of a guy that had played for the Bruins.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up real quickly here who at
Speaker 2: that point was a coach And you know, you do
Speaker 2: all of these fights in the National Hockey League, and
Speaker 2: he didn't ever have a problem. And let me see
Speaker 2: if I got the right guy here. Maybe I don't,
Speaker 2: do I have it the right guy here? Yeah, he
Speaker 2: died in a plane crash in September of twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: and a team plane crash, that's what happened to him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was killed. His name was Brad McKinnon, mccrimmin, McCrimmon.
Speaker 2: He was a good defense He left the NHL to
Speaker 2: become the head coach of the Locomotive Yaroslav of the
Speaker 2: Continental Hockey League in twenty eleven. He never coached a
Speaker 2: regular season game, however, as he was killed along with
Speaker 2: most of his team after they plane crashed and route
Speaker 2: to their first game. So interesting. Thanks Jamie, appreciate you call.
Speaker 10: Have a great one, Thank you. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 10: good one.
Speaker 2: Night. All right, Okay, I got Bill and Ubrin and
Speaker 2: I got kind of a slow last hour here, folks,
Speaker 2: So uh, if you want to join in, I'll get
Speaker 2: you on Between now and midnight six one seven, two
Speaker 2: five four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. We are talking about plane travel and
Speaker 2: whether or not the most recent spate of plane problems
Speaker 2: are causing you to rethink whether or not you want
Speaker 2: to get on an airplane as often as you have
Speaker 2: in the past, or whether or not you even want
Speaker 2: to consider flying again. We'll be back on Nightside right
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here, gonna go to Bill
Speaker 2: and Wilburn. Bill, your next on Nightside. Appreciate your call.
Speaker 2: Gor ahead, Bill, the first time caller, Dan, All right,
Speaker 2: let's get a round of applause. Well, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you're gonna get a round of applause for me.
Speaker 2: We have a new producer tonight, so I don't know
Speaker 2: if he knows where the applause button is, So go.
Speaker 11: Right AA Bill, all right.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 11: When Glenn Foley's father was playing quarterback for the Boston
Speaker 11: College Eagles. We flew down to Tennessee, but we had
Speaker 11: to make a good connection in Washington to get to Knoxville.
Speaker 11: We went to Kennedy's grave and we did make the connection.
Speaker 11: So anyway, getting back to my story. After the game,
Speaker 11: we go over the bus. Jim Whalen was playing for BC.
Speaker 11: In fact, remember Jim Whalen, all right, So anyway, Bill Flints.
Speaker 2: Whalen wasn't playing when Glenn Foley was playing.
Speaker 11: No Ed Foley Glenn Foley's father.
Speaker 2: Oh great, okay, yeah.
Speaker 11: Ed Foley is he played two years quarterback for Boston College. Anyway,
Speaker 11: after the game, say lo BC loss. Steve DeLong was
Speaker 11: playing for Tennessee. So anyway, we go over to the
Speaker 11: bus and Bill Flint says, get on the bus with
Speaker 11: the team, saving caffee, going back to the airport. So
Speaker 11: we got we got on the bus with it. You
Speaker 11: don't do that now, but he gave put us on
Speaker 11: the bus with the team go back to the airport,
Speaker 11: and then we flew back to what we have to
Speaker 11: regroup and go back to Boston. So that was a
Speaker 11: pretty good story.
Speaker 2: That's a good memory, that's a good that's flying first
Speaker 2: class even though you were on a plane when you
Speaker 2: were first class. I like that.
Speaker 11: Oh I know, fact is, I thought it was open lines.
Speaker 11: I had a litany of things to tell you about
Speaker 11: open lines, but I got that story about planes anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what I'll do open line some
Speaker 2: point in the next couple of weeks, and you keep
Speaker 2: listening and we'll get you in.
Speaker 11: Okay, ok I got a good lot of things to
Speaker 11: tell you. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: Boy. Thank you, Okay, I'll look forward to hearing from you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Out to you, my friend. Good night.
Speaker 2: We're i gonna go next. I've got to Koreeene in
Speaker 2: Corren Krene in Bridgewater.
Speaker 3: Hi, Koreen, how are you good? How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 12: Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling in your take on
Speaker 2: we're talking about planes here tonight and sad stories about
Speaker 2: planes go right.
Speaker 12: Ahead, exactly. Well, I have the fortunes to say I've
Speaker 12: traveled a lot and outside of turbulence, you know, nothing's
Speaker 12: ever really faced me about planes until you know, as
Speaker 12: of recent and only because my son, who was in
Speaker 12: the Air Force, got his pilot's license and now he's
Speaker 12: furthering it. For commercial and I got to tell you,
Speaker 12: as a mother, I'm a little concerned. I'm like, who's like,
Speaker 12: does anybody have.
Speaker 3: A grip on?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 12: Is everybody like where they should be? Are there are
Speaker 12: enough mechanics? Are there are enough airline controllers?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 12: And that's that's what's really got me thinking about planes now,
Speaker 12: where before I was just I love the idea, but
Speaker 12: matter of fact, I always wanted to be a students.
Speaker 12: But I just have that concern now. And I don't
Speaker 12: know whether it's just brought to our attention more by
Speaker 12: media of everything that's going around in the world and
Speaker 12: everybody's coming to terms with.
Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of that. But I
Speaker 2: also think that the twenty four hour news cycle, when
Speaker 2: there's a big plane crash, it's there. I mean in
Speaker 2: the old days, it was on you know, the nightly
Speaker 2: evening news or something for you know, a minute or
Speaker 2: two minutes. Now it's replayed. How many times have you
Speaker 2: seen that plane sliding and exploding in Toronto? I mean,
Speaker 2: they get that video, it's like on a loop, kept replaying.
Speaker 2: So that's why I think that people are going to
Speaker 2: have probably at the you know the end of the
Speaker 2: day two munchs people forget about it and they'll be
Speaker 2: back up to seventy percent. But there was a drop
Speaker 2: in the percentage of people who feel that planes are
Speaker 2: either safe or somewhat safe. It went from seventy one
Speaker 2: cent to sixty four percent. That's a big drop.
Speaker 12: There is, and there's gotta be there's gotta be more
Speaker 12: behind it.
Speaker 5: I just hope they get a grip on it film because.
Speaker 2: Well, we went several years without a big plane crash
Speaker 2: in America. Uh, the last one before the Potomac was
Speaker 2: up in Buffalo. I think it was twenty ten, So
Speaker 2: that was a long time without a major plane crash,
Speaker 2: but more than many.
Speaker 6: Right, which is which is very secure in hearing. But
Speaker 6: it's as of recent where there's too many of them happening.
Speaker 6: You just wonder like it's something glitching in their you know,
Speaker 6: their mechanicalism or yeah, I don't know. I hope think that.
Speaker 2: I think the one in Toronto was understandable, and I
Speaker 2: think the one in Potomac was just a dumb mistake.
Speaker 2: They shouldn't have had army helicopter and army helicopter in
Speaker 2: that airspace. Karina, I want to get one more and
Speaker 2: thanks so much for calling you.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Dan.
Speaker 2: Have a good night, you too. Okay, Kurt Middleborough, Kurt,
Speaker 2: you're gonna wrap it for us tonight. Your thoughts go
Speaker 2: right ahead, Kurt.
Speaker 8: Yes, this is Kurt.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you're in the air.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I heard a couple of accounts of the plane going
Speaker 8: in the water in Boston.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah. One of them said that it was nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 8: but I think it was eighty two.
Speaker 2: It was eighty two. Yeah, I corrected. The woman said
Speaker 2: it was eighty four, and it was January twenty third,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. I looked it up. I thought of
Speaker 2: being a little earlier than that, but I looked it
Speaker 2: up to be sure. It was nineteen eighty two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been a while over.
Speaker 8: My older sister was coming home from Moscow that night.
Speaker 3: Really, she had.
Speaker 8: Been studying the semester at the University of Moscow, and
Speaker 8: he came to California first and then was supposed to
Speaker 8: get a connecting flight, but something didn't work out, and
Speaker 8: when the plane went in the water, the rest of
Speaker 8: my family fought that she had died.
Speaker 2: But was she on that flight.
Speaker 8: She was supposed to be honest.
Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha? Okay, Well, thank god she wasn't. Thank god
Speaker 2: she got onto a different flight and got home safe
Speaker 2: and safe and sound flight. All right. Great, hey, Kurt, thanks,
Speaker 2: I got you in none of the wire, but I'm
Speaker 2: flat out of time, so i gotta let you run.
Speaker 8: Okay, I understand you. Have a good night.
Speaker 2: You two. Appreciate your call and call again. All right,
Speaker 2: We're done for this night. As we move on, I
Speaker 2: want to thank Mike Templeton, who was our producer tonight
Speaker 2: in Rob's absence. Great job, Mike, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: One of your first shows here on Nightside, hopefully the
Speaker 2: first of many. Rob maybe back tomorrow night. If not,
Speaker 2: Mike will be here. I'll be here tomorrow night. Marita
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