Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
Speaker 3: Or wait a minute about that backwards blonde hair, blue
Speaker 3: eyed or red haired green eyed. And these are where
Speaker 3: you get all your story, sorry, all your stories of
Speaker 3: the fairies and the Elven race and all this kind
Speaker 3: of Lord of the Rings stuff that they are esoterically
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 4: This dragon court.
Speaker 1: That's that's what it's kind of like what I was
Speaker 1: saying earlier, what part of it is the truth and
Speaker 1: what part of it is a bedtime story? The Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings stuff I believe is based. It's like
Speaker 1: a it's like a story trying to tell a true story.
Speaker 1: And like all the different races are different blood lines,
Speaker 1: and it's like were they really fairies like Tinker fucking
Speaker 1: Bell or what are they trying to show a bloodline thing?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like the fairy blood line,
Speaker 1: the dragon bloodline, this that it's like they all somebody
Speaker 1: put in the comments. I love Gary Wayne, I do too.
Speaker 1: Worked with him several times. Sounds like you have to
Speaker 1: and that's kind of like what he says. It's like
Speaker 1: blood types, bloodlines, and then they create characters to represent
Speaker 1: those different things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I actually did a show with him a
Speaker 3: while back. It's actually my most popular video. It's got
Speaker 3: like forty thousand views or something. But we actually did
Speaker 3: an entire show on the esoteric meanings of the Lord
Speaker 3: of the Rings. And one of the things he talked about,
Speaker 3: he showed all those examples like you were talking about,
Speaker 3: but one that really blew my mind and you could
Speaker 3: see it in the episode. I'm like, holy shit, I've
Speaker 3: never thought of that. But he was talking about. At
Speaker 3: the end, he said, think about this, he said, you
Speaker 3: had the Elven race. He's there almost like godlike, he said.
Speaker 3: You can consider them like the watchers, the fallen angels
Speaker 3: that were lording over and watching over humanity, right and
Speaker 3: kind of guiding their path, he said. And then when
Speaker 3: stuff hits the fan, they want to leave and escape,
Speaker 3: and he said, go to this other place to avoid
Speaker 3: judgment and war and all this stuff.
Speaker 4: He said, But they talk about this.
Speaker 3: King that he was a human and he was like
Speaker 3: a foundling and they were trying to raise him up,
Speaker 3: and they finally defeated the evil handed over the kingship
Speaker 3: to this human race. And at the end, Gandalf, what's
Speaker 3: that other the Hobbit Frodo and all those different people
Speaker 3: and the elves are getting on this golden boat and
Speaker 3: grabs his hand. They walk off and get on this
Speaker 3: boat together, and then they sell off, you know, into
Speaker 3: the unknown and fade out of sight, he says.
Speaker 4: He said, that's allegorically.
Speaker 3: The flood the judgment of God, he said, because you
Speaker 3: had the fallen angels that came down intermingled with humanity,
Speaker 3: gave them powers and special technology, he said, and then
Speaker 3: they sailed off and left to try to avoid judgment
Speaker 3: of the flood. And he said, and even at the end,
Speaker 3: what do they say that Gandalf and the elves are leaving.
Speaker 3: They're trying to beg them to stay, and he says, no,
Speaker 3: this is the time for man. So their time of
Speaker 3: rule is over, and now the dominion has been given
Speaker 3: to humanity. And that kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 5: A spot on. What do you think about, like.
Speaker 1: The mummy with the fetus. What happens to those things?
Speaker 1: You know, like do they get paid a museum somewhere
Speaker 1: people can go and look at it, or do they
Speaker 1: get like confiscated.
Speaker 3: This one got confiscated, because whereas that says right here,
Speaker 3: as it is only a few years since two mummies
Speaker 3: of children were carried to England.
Speaker 4: And they just disappeared after that.
Speaker 1: I knew it because I was waiting for you to say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's in this museum and it's like dehydrated like a
Speaker 1: Cheeto puff and you can go and see this thing.
Speaker 1: But no, it's it's always the ones that are super
Speaker 1: interesting like that, they always get confiscated and then you
Speaker 1: never you never see them again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they either get destroyed or they get put in
Speaker 3: somebody's private collection, some rich person's private collection, somebody.
Speaker 6: In the more than like I was going to say,
Speaker 6: our government.
Speaker 1: Vatican comes to mind ooh yeah, Tim for.
Speaker 3: And honestly, hey, that Arnold I told you about what
Speaker 3: we were going to go look at that elongated school
Speaker 3: that she knew an actual person that had it in
Speaker 3: his collection. She went to check on it and it
Speaker 3: had got confiscated and taken from the owner. And I
Speaker 3: think she said it was the Dutch. The Dutch is
Speaker 3: the ones that rule over the island of Aruba. And
Speaker 3: she said, well, she said, I had some friends that
Speaker 3: was wanting to investigate this and was wanting to do
Speaker 3: DNA testing and stuff. When are you going to get
Speaker 3: it back or where did it go? And they told
Speaker 3: her that some scientists from Rome got it and they
Speaker 3: were going to do the DNA testing.
Speaker 4: And it's like the Vatican, man, the Vatican.
Speaker 1: For sure, where did we Where did they get it from?
Speaker 5: Where did they find it?
Speaker 1: Okay, so they got they found it on their own
Speaker 1: and then somebody found.
Speaker 5: Out about it and came and got it from Rome.
Speaker 4: From Rome got it, they pissed it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, when I first jumped on, I think I heard
Speaker 7: you guys talking something about Spanish and maybe Aztecs are minds.
Speaker 7: Maybe I'm making all that up. But what's interesting with
Speaker 7: that is if you I was looking into the Brewer's
Speaker 7: Cave and I think that's Utah, and uh, there's a
Speaker 7: lot of great lore around that. It's a very wild story.
Speaker 3: Red haired giants, and it was a redheaded king and
Speaker 3: a blondheaded queen.
Speaker 7: Yes. And and I just ordered a book from a
Speaker 7: guy who went in there with John Brewer and saw that,
Speaker 7: and he he has sketches in the book. I've seen
Speaker 7: some of the sketches, and it looks like the giant
Speaker 7: king looks Mongolian in the face, but it has red hair.
Speaker 7: And I was thinking like maybe there's something too, like
Speaker 7: some of these Tartarian mongols actually being over here, but
Speaker 7: his chest plate looks like like Knight's templar, So it's like,
Speaker 7: what's really going on here? Well, people in that area
Speaker 7: believe that the Spanish came in and got rid of
Speaker 7: all these people that were like the giants that were
Speaker 7: living there, including I think like Aztec's are minds as well,
Speaker 7: and that all that stuff got taken by the Spanish
Speaker 7: and turned over to the Vatican. That so, if that's
Speaker 7: the case, that's a conspiracy that goes back to the
Speaker 7: fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I did to interview a while back with Terry Carter,
Speaker 3: and he's got a YouTube channel called the Terry Carter
Speaker 3: the Treasure Hunter, and he's the way everybody says he's
Speaker 3: the leading expert on Brewer's Cave. And I did an
Speaker 3: interview with him and he talked about some of the
Speaker 3: eyewitness testimony and stuff like that, and he was of
Speaker 3: the opinion that, you know, if we're being honest, either
Speaker 3: either it's real or it was made up, you know, facade.
Speaker 3: But he said if it was real, he said, the
Speaker 3: way the story goes is Brewer found all this stuff
Speaker 3: and started telling people about it, and he got into
Speaker 3: contact with the Mormon Church and some kind of college
Speaker 3: that was interlinked with the Mormon Church, and they were
Speaker 3: going to go look at this and investigate it. But
Speaker 3: then that college or somebody from that college printed into
Speaker 3: the newspaper about him talking crap, saying that he was
Speaker 3: a crazy man and saying this and that, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden he changed his mind and he
Speaker 3: wasn't going to show him. And some people asked for artifacts,
Speaker 3: and he gave them fake artifacts. But Brewer claimed in
Speaker 3: his diary into his family that he had give real
Speaker 3: artifacts to a couple of his friends and that they
Speaker 3: stole them and never gave them back. And there was
Speaker 3: copper tablets, all kinds of stuff. So like basically he
Speaker 3: was claiming that he forged some of these artifacts acts
Speaker 3: to protect the real ones, because he'd had some taken
Speaker 3: from him that were going to be examined or whatever,
Speaker 3: and they stole them. And the story goes is to
Speaker 3: keep from anyone from finding it, he went back and
Speaker 3: dynamited the entrance so no one could go in and dig,
Speaker 3: like some kind of little back channel cave hid an
Speaker 3: entrance to get in there, and that only like his
Speaker 3: son or something new about it. And it was like
Speaker 3: during all this stuff that was going on, someone even
Speaker 3: kidnapped the sun and killed him trying to pry this
Speaker 3: information of this cave from him. It's it's a pretty
Speaker 3: wild story, man, a lot of twists and turns, and
Speaker 3: it gets confusing really fast.
Speaker 4: But it's a wild story.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it does get confusing. But like one of the
Speaker 7: versions of the story that I'm kind of looking into
Speaker 7: is this guy before the controversy starts to surround John Brewer,
Speaker 7: before he gets involved with the Mormons, before he gets
Speaker 7: painted as a hoax, found the cave and took some
Speaker 7: people up there. And so some of those people have
Speaker 7: gone in there, and you know, like I said, they've
Speaker 7: written a book or included some of it in a book. Well,
Speaker 7: this guy who went in there allegedly says to what
Speaker 7: caught his eye, Like they had boxes of stuff laying around, right,
Speaker 7: he said, he said John was taking a crowbar smashing
Speaker 7: open the boxes and he had to tell him, man, hey,
Speaker 7: don't do that. You know, we got to open these
Speaker 7: things carefully with gloves and stuff. And he said he
Speaker 7: got real specific. He was like, there's what caught my
Speaker 7: eye was these little pieces of metal where they were
Speaker 7: doing electroplating. And I'm not it's some sort of an
Speaker 7: art of engraving cop metals like copper to preserve it
Speaker 7: or something. I'm not sure, but I was like, man,
Speaker 7: that's really specific. You know, if this didn't exist, that's
Speaker 7: a really weird detail for somebody to kind of come
Speaker 7: up with, right electro plating. But the whole thing is interesting.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean, and just even there's just that
Speaker 7: whole region. And that's the thing about North America. We
Speaker 7: have so many regions like that. You can kind of
Speaker 7: just put a blindfold on and point to the map
Speaker 7: over here, and you're going to if you look into
Speaker 7: that area, if you know where to look, you're probably
Speaker 7: going to find something that's ancient and you know, interesting,
Speaker 7: if not surrounded in controversy as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a thing too.
Speaker 3: Like Terry Carter, he's from that area out there in Utah,
Speaker 3: and he's got it. Like I said, he's got a
Speaker 3: whole channel called, you know, the Treasure Hunter. And because
Speaker 3: there's so much stuff over there, you know, you have
Speaker 3: the Native American stuff, you have the giants, you have
Speaker 3: the conquista doors that come up there and melt it
Speaker 3: down gold and silver and supposedly hit them in some
Speaker 3: of these caves and you know, hid treasure and they've
Speaker 3: actually found it, you know, with the Spanish markings on
Speaker 3: it and stuff. Some of these treasure hunters all kinds
Speaker 3: of lore about them leaving treasure maps and guides written
Speaker 3: on stone walls out there in the desert, like a
Speaker 3: treasure map like the goonies. It's supposed to supposedly leading
Speaker 3: to these gold and silver, you know, stashes and stuff.
Speaker 3: There's just all kinds of stuff like that out there,
Speaker 3: and like I said, there's so much of it that
Speaker 3: he has a whole YouTube channel on it and has
Speaker 3: all kinds of friends that are all treasure hunters and
Speaker 3: finding treasure and these ancient scripts carved on the side
Speaker 3: of stones and stuff. And I think it's every year.
Speaker 3: I can't remember the name of the get together, but
Speaker 3: every year out there he has like a treasure hunter
Speaker 3: get together, and some of the videos are pretty cool.
Speaker 3: All these treasure hunters just get together and they have
Speaker 3: bonfires and cookouts and they just record it and they
Speaker 3: tell all their stories and bring some of their treasures
Speaker 3: and show it off. They found, like I said, Spanish gold,
Speaker 3: Spanish armor, just all kinds of crazy stuff, which I'm
Speaker 3: fascinated by that kind of stuff as I grew up
Speaker 3: watching Indiana Jones and I'd get to.
Speaker 4: Live vicariously through some of these guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Doc, you got to hold something. I saw you
Speaker 7: made a post about it, and I think it's a sphere.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the giant spear.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Chief Joseph Riverwin he has a giant bronze
Speaker 3: spear that's that's probably you know, three or four foot
Speaker 3: long and weighs like twenty six pounds and it goes
Speaker 3: on the end of like a like an eight foot
Speaker 3: pole and this is the spearhead, and it goes with
Speaker 3: all the legends of the Native Americans about the city
Speaker 3: car and the stone skin giants, and they said they
Speaker 3: had these spears that the blades were so long that
Speaker 3: they could basically skewer the Natives, so as they were
Speaker 3: running and trying to get away, they could basically skewer
Speaker 3: like three Indians on one of these blades.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he had got.
Speaker 3: In contact with the guy that found that in the
Speaker 3: Michigan area up there where all that copper mind stuff
Speaker 3: was and the guy found it and they thought originally
Speaker 3: that it was a sword, and then Joseph got to
Speaker 3: looking at it's like, no, this is a spearhead and
Speaker 3: showed him and the guy was, I can't here if
Speaker 3: he was military or if he was like going for
Speaker 3: some kind of work, but either way, he was leaving
Speaker 3: the country. And so he gifted it to Chief Joseph
Speaker 3: and he actually cut into it and had the metal
Speaker 3: work done on it. And I did a show with
Speaker 3: him too, and I actually did that in person, and
Speaker 3: he brought that and I got to hold it and
Speaker 3: look at it. But he brought the metallurgy tests with
Speaker 3: him and read them on that interview I did him.
Speaker 3: And basically, a long story short, they found all kinds
Speaker 3: of different stuff, but basically it traced back to the
Speaker 3: Middle East. So this was probably a weapon that a
Speaker 3: Phoenician giant. Like I said that maybe Kamen was mine
Speaker 3: in this copper lost his spear because.
Speaker 7: A normal man would not be using that as a sphere.
Speaker 4: Now it's too big, No, it was huge.
Speaker 1: You ever think, like, because I heard you mentioned the goonies,
Speaker 1: there are all these stories about giants and like all
Speaker 1: this treasure and stuff, and we all think that they
Speaker 1: were like amazing other worldly beings and they turn out
Speaker 1: to be a bunch of like sloth with hey, you guys,
Speaker 1: like that would be the worst ending of this story.
Speaker 5: They that they were, but you hear that though.
Speaker 1: There's some like in the Bible, right, David and Goliath,
Speaker 1: and they're just like big useless idiots that just kind
Speaker 1: of like stomp around. And then there's the ones that
Speaker 1: are like highly intelligent that are responsible for these amazing
Speaker 1: works of architecture. And so it makes you wonder which
Speaker 1: ones the royal families are descended from the sloth clan
Speaker 1: or like the real smart ones like which And I
Speaker 1: saw somebody in the chat say that blonde hair and
Speaker 1: blue eyes kind of like just popped up out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: that it was a weird, recessive thing, and then the
Speaker 1: same with the red hair. So yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: makes you wonder because not all of them were smart.
Speaker 1: Come on, some of them had to be like sloth,
Speaker 1: especially with all the intermingling and the embred weirdness.
Speaker 3: Some of them are people in every culture, right, got
Speaker 3: them and smart people. But like you said, uh, that
Speaker 3: whole dragon lineage, the serpency, lineage and stuff. De Vera
Speaker 3: talks about his book that a lot of the New
Speaker 3: Age people that claim to be witches and all this
Speaker 3: kind of stuff and warlocks today, he said, they're laughable.
Speaker 3: He said, Yeah, they could have the perfect spells, they
Speaker 3: can have the perfect grimoires and do all the rituals
Speaker 3: exactly like the ancients did it, he said, but they're
Speaker 3: not going to get the same outcome because the powers
Speaker 3: in the blood, you know, the elven races and these bloodsuckers,
Speaker 3: the draculas and stuff that's been so sensationalized by Hollywood,
Speaker 3: those were real bloodlines and families and peoples, and they
Speaker 3: had the power in their blood and they could actually
Speaker 3: do those things.
Speaker 4: And that as.
Speaker 3: Time went they had like a Gary Wayne talks about it,
Speaker 3: they had like a reproduction problem, especially if they were giants,
Speaker 3: and so they basically just started intermingling, and it diluted
Speaker 3: the bloodline and tainted it and it got so weak
Speaker 3: that they can't do the things that they used to
Speaker 3: do anymore.
Speaker 4: But to try to.
Speaker 3: Preserve that power and bloodline, that's when they started interbreeding
Speaker 3: and marrying brother and sister and breeding and doing like
Speaker 3: you get all these stories of the Royals, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to preserve that pedigree, that lineage. That's why they
Speaker 3: were trying to do that. But after so long you
Speaker 3: just taint it so bad. You get all this inner
Speaker 3: breeding and you get.
Speaker 4: Those her you guys in the mix, you know, and
Speaker 4: that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if if one comes out looking like sloth,
Speaker 1: they end up locking them up in like an asylum.
Speaker 1: You never hear about. The Royal family actually had a
Speaker 1: couple that they just kind of were like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: put them in a home somewhere that we fucked up
Speaker 1: on that one. They had cleft lips, cleft palette. You know,
Speaker 1: they had a lot of genetic abnormalities because they were
Speaker 1: literally and you know they say that the Royal Family like, oh,
Speaker 1: Megan Markle, you know, they're they're not all bloodliners. She
Speaker 1: is a bloodliner though, because she's she's descended from Robert
Speaker 1: the Bruce and then Diana's family. Somehow it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was random, like you still had to be kind
Speaker 1: of in there in some way to be able to
Speaker 1: marry into the Royal family. That yeah, they've diluted it
Speaker 1: quote unquote, but they're still chosen.
Speaker 5: All those people are chosen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was at Kings, he said he drew his
Speaker 3: lineage back to Dracula. Yeah, and it talks about him
Speaker 3: drinking blood and stuff.
Speaker 4: And I talk about it in my book. You know,
Speaker 4: the epic of Esau.
Speaker 3: Esau marries into Nephlum giant clans and breeds with them,
Speaker 3: and from that union you get Amelek, who burst the
Speaker 3: Amalekite race. And when you go to the original etymology
Speaker 3: of that name, that means the blood liquors, so that
Speaker 3: all the fun people.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never knew that blood liquors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't there something Maybe you don't know, but if you
Speaker 1: do know, tell me if I'm right or wrong. This
Speaker 1: story of Elizabeth Bathery, that woman who killed all those
Speaker 1: women and like strung them up and like would bleed
Speaker 1: them out in bathtubs and like drink their blood and
Speaker 1: bathed in their blood. And she she was supposed to
Speaker 1: like have killed hundreds and hundreds of young girls, brought
Speaker 1: them back to her castle, slaughtered them, bathed in their blood,
Speaker 1: drank their blood. She was a descendant from the royal family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she was a royal And in that story too.
Speaker 3: It was the maids and the helpers were the ones
Speaker 3: that went to the towns and got.
Speaker 4: These people, right. Yeah, and when they busted.
Speaker 3: They even executed them for being accomplices. But if you
Speaker 3: remember that movie, I can't remember which one it was,
Speaker 3: but it was one of the hostels. Remember the hostile movies.
Speaker 3: They would take tourists.
Speaker 2: I was going to bring that off. I was gonna
Speaker 2: bring that a.
Speaker 3: Woman that laid there and the top of the throats
Speaker 3: and the people in the tub. That's who they were depicting,
Speaker 3: I think in that movie.
Speaker 7: Okay, I got it for you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 7: Malus scene.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: So the royal family, the Royal House of Luxembourg, they
Speaker 7: were originally Celts. They weren't landlocked. They moved from one
Speaker 7: the coastal and but they landed in Luxembourg, right. They
Speaker 7: traced their lineage back to mail you scene. Who is
Speaker 7: the little mermaid? Inspiration for that? And I think she's
Speaker 7: also the one on the Starbucks logo.
Speaker 2: I had somebody on the show covered up no shit.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then then if you look around, you see that
Speaker 7: bloodline pops up in other places like Crete, because there's
Speaker 7: another royal bloodline in Crete that traces their lineage back
Speaker 7: to Mail you see, and she's like a siren goddess.
Speaker 7: So it's like some of these, some of these gods
Speaker 7: and goddesses may have been actually like real people or
Speaker 7: real royal royals at one point, like like even the Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean, I think Vlad so King Charles traces his
Speaker 7: back to Vlad Paler of Romania, who Lad traces his
Speaker 7: back to one of the Netflon tribes. And he's even
Speaker 7: got the serpents on his too. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The author Dinanu yeah so yeah.
Speaker 7: And like his like tomb to this day, if you
Speaker 7: go in there and look, it's got dragons and serpents
Speaker 7: on it. So there's that association too, and.
Speaker 3: You find it all on the Vatican too. Me and
Speaker 3: Gary was talking about that Nicholas de vere book, The
Speaker 3: Dragon Legacy. De Vera was saying that when Constantine was
Speaker 3: trying to convert everybody to Christianity and his whole thing
Speaker 3: put it under the Christianity umbrella, that you have these
Speaker 3: different lines, like Julie was talking about of the Dragon Court.
Speaker 3: You know, you have different families, but they're all kind
Speaker 3: of diverted and branched off of the main tree. Trunk,
Speaker 3: but there was a branch that was kind of like
Speaker 3: the low tier, the bottom feeders of the Dragon family,
Speaker 3: and they called them the Tinkers, and the tinkers were
Speaker 3: your bankers, your merchants, and your traders, things like that.
Speaker 3: And the Tinkers had weaseled their way into the hierarchy
Speaker 3: and was right there at the right hand of Constantine.
Speaker 3: And the way the story goes is that when Constantine
Speaker 3: on his deathbed bequeathed all the power of the Roman
Speaker 3: government to the Vatican and the Pope, and so that's
Speaker 3: how the popes and the Catholic Church got so predominant,
Speaker 3: and they're basically like the rulers and kings ruling everything. Well,
Speaker 3: Devere says that the actual Dragon court, the high ones,
Speaker 3: were at the other side, and they were the ones
Speaker 3: in control, but the Tinkers weaseled their way in, and
Speaker 3: that Constantine's deathbed confession the royals, the true royals, thinks
Speaker 3: that it was a huge lie and deception that the
Speaker 3: tinkers lied and said that it was given to them,
Speaker 3: because the Tinkers had weaseled their way into Constant Teen's
Speaker 3: court and into the Vatican, and that's why when you
Speaker 3: go to the Vatican today, all your crown moldings and stuff.
Speaker 3: You have all these serpents and dragon heads, and the
Speaker 3: main symposium looks like a serpent's head. That's why he says,
Speaker 3: you have all that imagery in the Vatican, because that
Speaker 3: is where the dragon court and the tinkers weaseled their
Speaker 3: way into the organization. They left their mark.
Speaker 1: That's incredible to me because I've talked about stuff like
Speaker 1: that before. All these big banking families and stuff, the wroth,
Speaker 1: they're all come from that serpent line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what he said in that book.
Speaker 3: He said, that's the reason why the world's in such
Speaker 3: shit now because the tinkers, the bottom feeders, weaseled in
Speaker 3: and took over control. And that's why the world is
Speaker 3: ruled by greed and we're raping the land and pillaging
Speaker 3: the land, and everything is just all about money and greed.
Speaker 3: And you know, all this kind of stuff is because
Speaker 3: the bottom feeders of the dragon family, the tinkers, have
Speaker 3: taken over.
Speaker 7: What if it goes back to the chaos dragon, the
Speaker 7: dragon from the beginning of time. What do you think
Speaker 7: about that, doc.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of a muddy water you know.
Speaker 3: But I think that it all comes back to Satan,
Speaker 3: the original adversary, because he's described as the ancient twisting serpent,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people when I bring that up,
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, well, there's so many other entities. It
Speaker 3: has to be, you know, busted up into all these
Speaker 3: other different ones, because Satan was there at the garden.
Speaker 3: If he was the the dragon, you know, like ray
Speaker 3: have and all the legends and stories, he should have
Speaker 3: been kicked out of heaven. But even way after, like
Speaker 3: in the Book of Job, it says that God has
Speaker 3: his divine counsel and Satan shows up and he's like,
Speaker 3: where have you been. I've been going to and fro
Speaker 3: on the earth and he's like, oh, have you considered
Speaker 3: my servant job? Basically, have you accused him or tested him?
Speaker 3: And he was like, ah, he's only he only worships
Speaker 3: you because you're so good to him. He has all
Speaker 3: this money and stuff. Let me do this and let
Speaker 3: me do that, He'll curse you. So it shows that
Speaker 3: long after the fall, Satan was still allowed a seat
Speaker 3: in the Divine Council.
Speaker 4: So it's like.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was kind of like the legends of like
Speaker 3: you get the Norse legends of Loki, Loki was the troublemaker.
Speaker 3: He was kicked out of Belheim or what was that called.
Speaker 3: I can't remember the name of the city now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he was kicked out of that and forced to
Speaker 3: live as an outcast. But on occasion he was allowed
Speaker 3: to come in for like banquets and things like that.
Speaker 6: So with celebrations and stuff. Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think Loki is kind of like a
Speaker 3: different archetype of the of the Satan figure because even
Speaker 3: in the legend was at the Ragnarok. It says that
Speaker 3: once Loki had done so much treacherous things that they
Speaker 3: chained him in a cave and one of his children
Speaker 3: was a venom of serpent, and they chained his child
Speaker 3: above him, and that way, the salifa and the venom
Speaker 3: was constantly dripping on him and he couldn't break the chains,
Speaker 3: but his wife would sit there and try to give
Speaker 3: him water and wipe the poison away. But then when
Speaker 3: Ragnarok comes, he's released and he wreaks havoc and he
Speaker 3: works with the agents of Chaos to overthrow his father.
Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting you say that, because I'm probably
Speaker 8: gonna ruffle some feathers. But you know, in the there's
Speaker 8: some apocrypher out there about Jesus. We know Jesus was
Speaker 8: missing from you know, from twelve to us certain a
Speaker 8: right and some of the apocrypha he was a trickster.
Speaker 8: There's some sayings that he you know, he pushed one
Speaker 8: of his friends off a roof and resurrected him, or
Speaker 8: he of one of his friends fell off the roof
Speaker 8: and he read. I mean, there's different stories about him
Speaker 8: performing mischievous things to some people and parents getting upset
Speaker 8: at him, and he was ran away because he had
Speaker 8: abilities to do things that weren't seemed normal.
Speaker 6: So he was also known as a trickster in the apocrypha.
Speaker 3: Also, Yeah, and that was in the nog commodity text
Speaker 3: that they'd found and that that was all the Gnostic text.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 8: It's crazy, right, like how And it's just amazing that
Speaker 8: when you bring that up to some people, because I
Speaker 8: grew up in the Catholic Church, when you bring that
Speaker 8: up to some people, they don't want to believe you
Speaker 8: on that. But there's actually text that says that. And
Speaker 8: they always argue about the text being a forgery, but
Speaker 8: everything that comes from the Somes after that is usually,
Speaker 8: you know, considered a forgery because the Samearians had a
Speaker 8: certain right way of writing their stuff down and keeping
Speaker 8: it down. And that's just not saying that the Samerians
Speaker 8: themselves were doing it. The language, the writing itself was
Speaker 8: carried forward even into the Akkadians, Babylonians and so on
Speaker 8: and so forth. I actually have a Bible from eighteen
Speaker 8: seventy three that says the people Assumer, Babylon, and Kaldia
Speaker 8: they all are one in the same people. And I
Speaker 8: presented the page and everything I took a picture of,
Speaker 8: but I do a video set.
Speaker 6: On it, like I said, what I've done reading these books,
Speaker 6: and I take pictures just like how you do things too.
Speaker 6: And it's actually in that Bible.
Speaker 8: And it's interesting that, you know, they consider those three,
Speaker 8: you know, with some people say different cultures as one
Speaker 8: and one in the same.
Speaker 7: I would say that there was a link between those
Speaker 7: three empires and the changing of hands. Yeah, and definitely
Speaker 7: knowledge being passed down throughout the generations, throughout the empire lineage.
Speaker 7: They're including Summer, Kaldians, Babylon direct direct links. Man, I
Speaker 7: love that you know.
Speaker 8: And also in that same Bible it says, uh that, uh,
Speaker 8: the Pope of Rome and yeah, I'll go grab mines
Speaker 8: in the second. Just in the second, I'll go grab
Speaker 8: it the Pope of Room and uh.
Speaker 4: Applon in eighteen eleven.
Speaker 6: All right, seven, I'm gonna go get I'm gonna grab
Speaker 6: my room.
Speaker 3: Hold, but I got Yeah, this thing is from eighteen eleven.
Speaker 9: Oh damn, look at that, and it's gonna be yeah, okay,
Speaker 9: and it's.
Speaker 4: Even got letters in here that I found. Uh, where's
Speaker 4: it at.
Speaker 3: Seventeen eighty one?
Speaker 5: Whoa, Yeah, this thing is really old.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool as shit.
Speaker 6: Man, here's mine right here, Bro, let's get let's get it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh I got that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah that is awesome.
Speaker 8: Yeah, bro, eighteen seventy three, Bro, Like really, class are
Speaker 8: there eight clasps?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like your discrepancies.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 6: That's why I'm going through mine right now, because what
Speaker 6: a lot of people will say is that this is
Speaker 6: what I think a lot of people that.
Speaker 8: I said says that the New Jerusalem Bible is the
Speaker 8: most accurate Bible.
Speaker 6: I have to study Edition one.
Speaker 8: So what I'm doing slowly, but surely is taking this
Speaker 8: one and taking my eighteen seventy three Bible and going
Speaker 8: through it. It's it's crazy because I've read at least
Speaker 8: six or seven different versions of the Bible. I've also
Speaker 8: had the privilege and honor of talking to Jeff Benner,
Speaker 8: who's a Hebrew scholar who translated. He actually sent me
Speaker 8: twenty of his or fifteen of his books. He has
Speaker 8: like twenty or twenty something books, and I can tell
Speaker 8: you there's minor small discrepancies. One of them that I
Speaker 8: found as interesting is if you read the group Greek
Speaker 8: septuagen with the Apocrypha, uh, it says Goliath is four
Speaker 8: cubits in a span, but if you read read the
Speaker 8: King James version, he's six cubits in the span. So
Speaker 8: the size difference, because we're talking about giants and stuff
Speaker 8: like that, the side difference would be different. So that's
Speaker 8: anywhere between six to nine feet respectively, give or tape
Speaker 8: from both sides. And then you got, like I said,
Speaker 8: like the Apocrypha, you got the different books with like
Speaker 8: Jesus being the trickster, but those aren't in you know,
Speaker 8: certain texts. And then you have the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 8: which he was missing miss uh mentioning about you have
Speaker 8: three different versions actually of the Book of Enoch. The
Speaker 8: first one, I believe the first book of the I
Speaker 8: think they call it is the most accurate one if
Speaker 8: I'm not mistaken, and then uh, yeah, right, if I'm
Speaker 8: not mistaken, And then yeah, there's just so many different things.
Speaker 8: And then like I had, I was just I just
Speaker 8: took a picture of some books that I that I
Speaker 8: about Jesus, the Life of Jesus, and there's these there's
Speaker 8: just a whole bunch of books outside of what they
Speaker 8: considered apocrypha. But the apocrypha literally just means, you know,
Speaker 8: forbidden books. So there's just books that come from everywhere.
Speaker 8: I know that in this one right here, this Bible
Speaker 8: actually gives you a definition in the beginning of all
Speaker 8: the words that it means.
Speaker 6: I actually have uh in here.
Speaker 8: And I did a YouTube video on it where they
Speaker 8: mentioned the Pyramids in here. So you know how a
Speaker 8: lot of people talk about you know, the Pyramids aren't mentioned,
Speaker 8: and they don't have a Hebrew word for it and
Speaker 8: stuff like that. What they do is actually they some
Speaker 8: people will say that it was the Tower of Babble,
Speaker 8: and I'm not sure if Doc Brown, if you if
Speaker 8: you had any correlations with that.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not really looked into that that date, but
Speaker 3: honestly I want to get that. The second one I
Speaker 3: showed you that was like you yours. The spine is
Speaker 3: really messed up, so when I open it and look
Speaker 3: through it, I have to be really careful.
Speaker 2: YEA mine is like that.
Speaker 3: To get it restored, I talked to a guy. He
Speaker 3: said for five hundred bucks he'd restore it. So I
Speaker 3: want to get it restored that way I can actually
Speaker 3: use it, because that thing is amazing, and yours looks
Speaker 3: identical to mind, so I'm sure it's the same. But
Speaker 3: it's got huge sections of it that is nothing but definitions,
Speaker 3: drawings of ancient coins, and all kinds of cool pictures
Speaker 3: and diagrams and maps and full color like painted gold
Speaker 3: leaf images, and it has like the wax paper to
Speaker 3: separate the images and stuff, and it's just got all
Speaker 3: these bright colored images and stuff.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful book with a long.
Speaker 8: I'm activation I'm actually, like I said, I'm going slowly
Speaker 8: through mine on my YouTube because, like you said, my
Speaker 8: binding is messed up too. So what I usually do
Speaker 8: is I get a little small blanket or a pillow,
Speaker 8: and I put it up against this so the buying
Speaker 8: will stay where is at. And I just slowly turned
Speaker 8: the pages. I have gloves and stuff like that. So yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm slowly trying to get it all on my YouTube.
Speaker 8: It's just a lot of information and with the little
Speaker 8: amount of time that I have with everything that I want,
Speaker 8: it's really hard. But I'm definitely gonna get back into it.
Speaker 8: I went through the definitions in the beginning because some
Speaker 8: of the definitions are in there and is amazing.
Speaker 6: Like I said earlier, in my.
Speaker 8: Bible, it actually says that the Pope of Rome and
Speaker 8: Satan are one and the same. And it's crazy that
Speaker 8: it says it in there. So and I think Appleon
Speaker 8: is included in that list too. So it literally says
Speaker 8: that I have it on my YouTube channel already like this,
Speaker 8: so and I took a picture of it, and I
Speaker 8: probably can put it up on matter of fact, I
Speaker 8: think I put it on Twitter. It should be on it.
Speaker 8: I pull it up in a second.
Speaker 7: That Apolyon shows up in there, I think in revelations.
Speaker 7: But I mean I was looking at there was a
Speaker 7: lady on YouTube who was pulling out her old Bible
Speaker 7: and it was from eighteen eighty four, I think, and
Speaker 7: it like included an introduction paragraph talking about mound build
Speaker 7: and they said they were talking about the ancient race
Speaker 7: that made it to America.
Speaker 5: Shut up ten.
Speaker 7: Yes, And it was right there in this lady's Bible.
Speaker 7: And I don't even think she was trying to push
Speaker 7: any kind of a narrative. She was just like, Oh,
Speaker 7: this is weird that this is in here, and you
Speaker 7: know it kind of eighteen eighty four is when that
Speaker 7: Bible was dated to and it kind of coincides with
Speaker 7: I would suggest, the eighteen eighty push by the government
Speaker 7: and like the science clubs to dismiss that very notion.
Speaker 7: So I was at it like this, like maybe this
Speaker 7: is like the origin story for this war of the
Speaker 7: narratives where you have some people like pulling the giant
Speaker 7: bones out of the museums and trying to cover it
Speaker 7: all up, and then then you have it written down
Speaker 7: in a Bible too, which is interesting because that became
Speaker 7: like a battle of the narratives, right, And I would say,
Speaker 7: in my opinion, historically the Bible people were right, or
Speaker 7: whoever wrote that in the Bible in that introductry paragraph was.
Speaker 5: Right, well, think about it, Tim.
Speaker 1: It's like the same time when they decided that they
Speaker 1: were going to tell everybody and teaching like history class
Speaker 1: that the Native Americans built Serparent Mound and the Native
Speaker 1: Americans were responsible for the mounds in Louisiana and all.
Speaker 5: These places, and it's like you go and you ask
Speaker 5: them and.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, how did you guys build all these
Speaker 1: fucking really intricate ass mounds And they're like, we didn't.
Speaker 1: Actually they were here when we got here, but we
Speaker 1: never we It's like, why can't we take their word
Speaker 1: for it? We asked the Native Americans, they said they
Speaker 1: didn't do it, So they're that story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once they started this Reappropriation Act and they realized
Speaker 3: that they could get claims to lands and historic sites,
Speaker 3: they're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we changed our minds.
Speaker 1: Sure yeah, yeah, it's like sure we did we yep,
Speaker 1: we built it.
Speaker 5: We built it.
Speaker 1: But like Serpent Mound in particular, the stories are that
Speaker 1: it was there the Native Americans moved into that area
Speaker 1: and it was already fucking there, So I mean, why
Speaker 1: can't we just take their word for it?
Speaker 7: And I think that it was excavated around that time
Speaker 7: in eighteen eighty by Putnam.
Speaker 2: And that's what.
Speaker 5: Said that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was like associated with the Smithsonian and the Peabody.
Speaker 7: So it's like they had they sent their own people
Speaker 7: in there so they could have control of the situation,
Speaker 7: right because Putnam was he said that they pulled six
Speaker 7: feet people out of Serpent Mountain, like that's what he documented.
Speaker 7: But then later it comes out that they were pulling
Speaker 7: out seven foot or.
Speaker 4: More bigger than that.
Speaker 3: I went down there and I recorded, which I've done
Speaker 3: it like over a year ago. I've been trying to
Speaker 3: make a little documentary on it. But I talked to
Speaker 3: some of the locals and some natives and check this out.
Speaker 3: You know how everybody thinks it's the serpent eating the egg. Well,
Speaker 3: the local natives they say that when Putnam wrote down
Speaker 3: all his stuff, that it was totally different and that
Speaker 3: they reconstructed it to try to preserve it, but they
Speaker 3: lost some of the features, and so they said that
Speaker 3: this is what they believe that it originally was. It's
Speaker 3: a serpent eating a turtle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Turtle Island, that's what that's what the natives.
Speaker 3: Its quasi kettle coming up from South America devouring Turtle Island,
Speaker 3: North America.
Speaker 5: Holy ship.
Speaker 4: Well, that that's why.
Speaker 8: I was Yeah, I was just talking about.
Speaker 3: And here is a picture from that conical mound, that
Speaker 3: Serpent Mound, And like you said, Tim, this was a
Speaker 3: seven foot skeleton. But at the knees it's it's it
Speaker 3: was missing its limbs from the knees down, and its
Speaker 3: hands were cut off off. So did it have six
Speaker 3: fingers and six toes. I think it's a good possibility.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh shit, they took parts off.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So seven foot at the knees.
Speaker 1: Yep, seven foot at the knee.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: I looked into the guy who put that picture out too,
Speaker 7: and it kind of seems legit, and I just looked
Speaker 7: it up. Frederick Ward Putnam, a Harvard University archaeologist, is
Speaker 7: known for his work as Serpent Mound, Ohio during the
Speaker 7: late eighteen eighties.
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7: That's when in my research, that's when the narrative, the
Speaker 7: big narrative shift was starting to be pushed was eighteen eighty.
Speaker 7: They were being our people over here are people in
Speaker 7: government like the Siyah Cincinnati, those Cosmos Club, DC all
Speaker 7: your power players in eighteen eighty were being heavily influence Spy,
Speaker 7: the Royal Club across the Pond, the British Rural Society,
Speaker 7: and this new science movement that was rising up, and
Speaker 7: it took over. It's like the serpent taking over North America.
Speaker 7: The science guys took over and if you were in
Speaker 7: their way, anything that you had, any cool artifacts, out
Speaker 7: of place, artifacts, out of place theories was in their way.
Speaker 7: Too bad. Too bad, you're getting bulldozed, just like they
Speaker 7: bulldozed the mounds in Saint Louis to put the city down.
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, but see, you know, the only thing
Speaker 8: that gets me is when you read the Book of Enoch, though,
Speaker 8: their giants are described as like skyscrapers, so that right
Speaker 8: there there was a whole little new theory out there
Speaker 8: for me to, you know, try to figure out. Because
Speaker 8: a lot of people will argue that, they will say,
Speaker 8: forget the seven foot eight foot nine foot giants, what
Speaker 8: about the ones in the Book of Enoch.
Speaker 6: What is your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: Brown h Honestly, I mean, at the same time, we
Speaker 3: don't know. It says like so many one hundred or
Speaker 3: a thousand als, you know, we speculate what an al is,
Speaker 3: but we truly don't know. I mean, it's an ancient measurement,
Speaker 3: but we don't know what an al is. We can
Speaker 3: speculate and say what we think it is, but we
Speaker 3: honestly don't know. You know, an ale could be six inches,
Speaker 3: you know, it could be two inches.
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't know. It could be a foot.
Speaker 4: But one thing I.
Speaker 3: Do believe is that there's a distinct difference between the
Speaker 3: giants pre flood and post flood, and even the Bible
Speaker 3: distincts it because they were called the Giants, the mighty
Speaker 3: men of Old pre flood, and then after the flood
Speaker 3: they were known as the raphaem.
Speaker 8: H.
Speaker 3: And I think even like you look at the evidence,
Speaker 3: like you can look through the archaeological records, like if
Speaker 3: you find in a modern day eagles head, you know,
Speaker 3: modern day eagle had this big, but they find ancient
Speaker 3: eagles heads in the fossil record that has this big.
Speaker 3: We have a modern turtle that's this big, but in uh,
Speaker 3: the archaeological record they find tortoises this big.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a yeah.
Speaker 3: The trees, the leaks, everything, everything pre flood was bigger, better, stronger,
Speaker 3: and so we're the people.
Speaker 4: And that architecture too.
Speaker 1: The doorways. Who's the fuck is walking through there?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I mean, Nick, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You see these these cathedrals with like fifty foot.
Speaker 5: Archways like what you was walking through there?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was going to say that gigant epithetus, remember
Speaker 8: the primates.
Speaker 6: That were giants that they that they talk about, those are.
Speaker 3: Talking about my book always he said he come out
Speaker 3: covered in hair from head to toe and tell people
Speaker 3: what we call a big foot today. I think just
Speaker 3: back then they called a feral giant.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: I did an article it said that the Bigfoot was
Speaker 8: in you Do because Ink you Do was a special
Speaker 8: that was in the woods. And uh, they sent the
Speaker 8: pro prostitute to go out there and get him to
Speaker 8: be a human like individual. And now yoga and that's
Speaker 8: how eventually Yoga Messa and him had friendship. There's also
Speaker 8: actual texts that actually said they had a romantic relationship
Speaker 8: to Giggle Mession Inky Do. I posted that up earlier
Speaker 8: on the on my Twitter account, and so I think,
Speaker 8: if I'm not mistaken, it comes from either the electronic
Speaker 8: texts Corpus. Yeah, I think it comes from the electronic
Speaker 8: texts Corpus Sumerian literature where it talks about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I theorized that in the book that Uh inky Do
Speaker 3: is the the Babylonian slash Samerian version of Esaul, because
Speaker 3: they're both covered and hair from head to toe. They're
Speaker 3: both in the image trust Odds, and they were both
Speaker 3: known as the Mighty Hunter. And the Book of Jasher
Speaker 3: says that Esau and Nimrod battle to the death the
Speaker 3: supernatural garments from the Garden of God and the uh
Speaker 3: you know, the Hebrew version, their Guyau wins and kills
Speaker 3: Nemrod takes his head off.
Speaker 4: But then when you go.
Speaker 3: To the Samerian version, it says that at their battle
Speaker 3: that Demrod defeats Inky Doo. So it's like a in
Speaker 3: my opinion, like an version. It's it's different cultures versions,
Speaker 3: and they're they're they're spinning it to where their guy wins.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Best friends, Yeah, and they take off on all these
Speaker 3: epic adventures together.
Speaker 8: You know me, and you think alike, man, like, I'm
Speaker 8: not even joking, bro, like my guy journey through the
Speaker 8: origins of history. It actually went bestseller in Samarian, Babylonian
Speaker 8: and uh history and Mesopotamian history, and a lot of
Speaker 8: what you're saying is actually accurate to the point where
Speaker 8: I'm psyched at It's like we read almost them there
Speaker 8: the same type of books, because that's exactly what it says.
Speaker 6: They had. You know, there's different versions and different translations.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: I always tell people, you know, just because you read
Speaker 8: one translation doesn't mean that's the accurate one. Find the
Speaker 8: translation where somebody's arguing against that point, and read their
Speaker 8: version and see which one can provide the evidence. And
Speaker 8: that's why I like what you did when you pulled
Speaker 8: out the book with those tabs, because I like to
Speaker 8: do that too. If I know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 8: I can go straight to that tab and be like,
Speaker 8: this is what it says. And if somebody says, you know,
Speaker 8: go through your own research, it's like a slap in
Speaker 8: my face because I literally have the research in my
Speaker 8: hand right now, so I want to know what you
Speaker 8: know the other person talks about. I definitely added your
Speaker 8: book to my cart because I do want to read it.
Speaker 6: You do. I like the intelligence, I know. I like
Speaker 6: the knowledge that you're sharing. I think what you're doing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's yeah. I'm already going to be on it. Man, Like,
Speaker 6: like what i'd like to do?
Speaker 4: Is I like it?
Speaker 1: Is it on Amazon?
Speaker 6: Yeah? It's on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm going to put it in my card.
Speaker 4: Nice. Thank you guys.
Speaker 8: Doc.
Speaker 1: Did you see that comment in the side it said
Speaker 1: Wiki leaks exposed Hillary Clinton's interest in Gilgamesh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't read that comment, but I know what
Speaker 4: they're talking about.
Speaker 1: That to me is really fucking interesting. You know what else,
Speaker 1: there is a picture.
Speaker 5: Of the Queen.
Speaker 1: Anybody can google it, so you don't think I'm full
Speaker 1: of shit. There was like a museum that opened and
Speaker 1: it was like giant skeletons and it's a picture of
Speaker 1: like the Queen with like a bunch of members of
Speaker 1: the Royal shittery and she's like posing next to the
Speaker 1: big skull and she's all like proud of it and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, you're trying to say this is where
Speaker 1: you came from? Is that why you're so crazy looking.
Speaker 4: Great granddaddy?
Speaker 1: Right, It's like she's all proud of it and like
Speaker 1: all admiring it and shit, it's like they know what's up,
Speaker 1: Like Hillary Clinton's all, you know, getting up in Gilgamesh's
Speaker 1: tomb and all.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's crazy to me that how how obvious
Speaker 5: it is is you know, when they.
Speaker 7: Used a word, when they drop the word nephylm in
Speaker 7: those documents in the Clinton emails, I was like, oh,
Speaker 7: so they know about this.
Speaker 1: They know, Yeah, they know, uh huh yeah. I was
Speaker 1: actually gonna say too, this is just not a side
Speaker 1: tangent or anything. But I moved to the Pacific Northwest
Speaker 1: about a year ago, and I had I had never
Speaker 1: seen the redwood trees, and I had never seen the
Speaker 1: mountains like there are an Oregon in California and it's magnificent.
Speaker 5: But if you ever look at like the what they.
Speaker 1: Call the table rock, because we drove by a bunch
Speaker 1: of it and I was like, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: And Colby told me that it's the table rock, But
Speaker 1: if you really look at it, it looks like petrified
Speaker 1: megalithic tree stumps. And I think that, you know, they
Speaker 1: they have ways of explaining things so that you're not
Speaker 1: thinking that giant things like that existed. But to me,
Speaker 1: when I look at it, it's like looking at it,
Speaker 1: like a mile across petrified tree stump, and you know
Speaker 1: when you see stuff like that, and even some of
Speaker 1: the redwood trees, they're like hundreds of feet across and
Speaker 1: you're just staring at it like we live.
Speaker 5: In Like I don't know what we live in. But
Speaker 5: there used to be giant things on this planet.
Speaker 3: There hat flood, everything was larger, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't realize either. And I keep this for like
Speaker 3: Show and Tail, which I know is this video. You
Speaker 3: can't really see it or feel it or touch it.
Speaker 3: But this right here looks like a rock, right and
Speaker 3: you can hear it. It's solid. It's a rock, but
Speaker 3: it's not a rock. Look closer. That is petrified wood.
Speaker 3: You could see the rings. But to the untrained eye,
Speaker 3: this is a rock. It looks like a rock, it
Speaker 3: feels like a rock. Oh it's a rock, but no,
Speaker 3: it's not. It's a petrified piece of tree. And if
Speaker 3: you look at these lines and straations, Devil's Tower and
Speaker 3: some of these other you know, mountains or plateaus that's
Speaker 3: got these striations and lines in it. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: not a really smart guy, but I mean I know
Speaker 3: two and two equals four.
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: That's why if she saw the legends about like gigantic
Speaker 1: creatures in the sea like NeSSI and shit like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe Nessy itself is like fantastical, but I do believe
Speaker 1: that there were like huge serpents in the sea.
Speaker 3: Huge.
Speaker 1: I mean, there have been documented accounts of people seeing
Speaker 1: weird shit in the ocean for hundreds of years. Alistair
Speaker 1: Crowley had a state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had an estate, and the sea creature is
Speaker 3: the only thing that would survive a worldwide flood, right,
Speaker 3: But I mean you can even explore the depths of
Speaker 3: the sea today, So I mean there's quite possibly some
Speaker 3: you know, prehistoric monsters in the deep that we just
Speaker 3: don't know about.
Speaker 5: Well, think about I.
Speaker 1: Think that James Cameron, the director, I think he's an occultist.
Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody's I think he's an occultist. Okay,
Speaker 1: all of his movies like Titanic, the Abyss.
Speaker 5: Think about the Abyss.
Speaker 1: Okay, motherfucker is trying to tell you something that there's
Speaker 1: something way deep down that will never be able to
Speaker 1: get to in the ocean. I mean, the movie Avatar
Speaker 1: all that. I think he's definitely an occultist. But there's
Speaker 1: so I think the Next Frontier or whatever is actually
Speaker 1: not space at all. I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: believe in space at this point. I think it's the oceans.
Speaker 1: I think that there'll probably be another catastrophic event, maybe
Speaker 1: not even in our lifetimes, but it's going to be
Speaker 1: like another flood that wipes us all out, and then
Speaker 1: like hundreds of years from now. It's like I said
Speaker 1: in another episode, people will be digging up taco bell
Speaker 1: sports and being like, oh, look at this ancient technology.
Speaker 5: I wonder what they used it for, and it's like
Speaker 5: it's literally.
Speaker 4: Wizards one right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I do think like Lovecraft, Lovecraft and
Speaker 7: the Cuthulhu, and then people there's like a cultist I
Speaker 7: was reading about this. There's a group of occultists from
Speaker 7: Chicago who were driving out to these lakes in Wisconsin
Speaker 7: to try and summon a lake monster inspired by Lovecraft's
Speaker 7: Cuthulhu because they believe that he was talking about a
Speaker 7: real some sort of a real thing, a real entity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, he could have been. That's what I'm saying. Though,
Speaker 5: It's like.
Speaker 1: They make it fantastical to the point where you think
Speaker 1: it's like a Disney movie, but it's really based on
Speaker 1: like the Little Mermaid, and like some of these stories
Speaker 1: have been turned into fairy tales, but they're actually based
Speaker 1: on like reality, and so I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that Earth goes through seasons or eras or cycles, and
Speaker 1: like we're due for one and in a couple of
Speaker 1: hundred years where they're going to be digging up shit
Speaker 1: and being like, oh, look at this thing, and it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: it's a tampon.
Speaker 4: Has a tampon?
Speaker 3: You guys watching the news, I mean, my god, all
Speaker 3: the flooding that's going on, all the flowers that we're getting,
Speaker 3: all the earthquakes that's going on. Volcanoes repped and there's
Speaker 3: eighty it's the most ever recorded. There's eighty active volcanoes
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 5: But if I were going to choose one, doc you
Speaker 5: can disagree.
Speaker 1: I would rather be a fucking ice age than to
Speaker 1: heat the earth up and have another flood.
Speaker 5: Because fuck the heat.
Speaker 1: I would rather never endure another summer again and just
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, for the next ten years,
Speaker 1: summer it's like seventy degrees all season.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 7: You're related. You're related to the redheaded giant ice giants.
Speaker 7: It's in your blood.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, I'd rather be cold
Speaker 3: than hot because I make it hot and be burning up.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're cold, you just put another layer on.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I could survive an ice age. I get
Speaker 5: two degrees too hot. I want to I'm homicidal. I
Speaker 5: can't even life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if there's gonna be another cataclysm, please God,
Speaker 1: an ice age, I would be down for an ice age.
Speaker 2: Fuck.
Speaker 4: Yes, Actually, never bothered me anyway, there you go.
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, Frozen is based on some of
Speaker 1: those bloodline stories that we were talking about. Elsa blonde hair,
Speaker 1: blue eyed, right Anna, green eyes, red hair, they come
Speaker 1: from a royal bloodline, they got magical powers.
Speaker 5: Just saying if you look into Frozen, there is a
Speaker 5: lot of that bloodline story in the background.
Speaker 9: Going.
Speaker 7: That's totally totally Like I don't watch Disney movies, but
Speaker 7: I'll see, like Disney previews for these movies show up,
Speaker 7: and I'll watch and it's like they're all like it's
Speaker 7: all stuff out of mythologies that I read or grimoires
Speaker 7: one hundred absolutely, yeah, all of them, and and all
Speaker 7: these old entities, especially these Disney female goddesses. They resemble
Speaker 7: the Goddesses of Old. It's just a it's almost like
Speaker 7: it's just a retelling of the mythology and.
Speaker 5: The Marvel stuff.
Speaker 1: The Marvel stuff's got it bad, like the new series
Speaker 1: that they're putting out, like on Disney plus with like
Speaker 1: Loki and.
Speaker 5: Uh wand division about like the Scarlet Witch, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then they had Moonnight, which is a lot of
Speaker 1: the Egyptian weirdness, and I think Marvel puts a lot
Speaker 1: that it compacts, like Project paper Clip. They had a
Speaker 1: lot of nine to eleven weirdness, like with the Iron
Speaker 1: Man movies and so Disney Scott. If you want to
Speaker 1: learn something about ancient history, go watch a fucking Disney
Speaker 1: movie because it's got all of it in there.
Speaker 7: Stanley and one of his big guys over at Marvel
Speaker 7: was Jack Kirby, and a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 7: they were working with. First of all, they were based
Speaker 7: in some of their stuff off of Howard Hughes, and
Speaker 7: Howard Hughes worked with like the CIA and special government
Speaker 7: product projects. It gets real weird with Marvel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just to show you, like an example, they're
Speaker 3: constantly all their superheroes are pulling from mythology and old gods,
Speaker 3: you know, from Nors, from the Egyptians. At Dark Knight Guy,
Speaker 3: he was based on an Egyptian god and thtick this out.
Speaker 3: I found this old comic book a while back. But
Speaker 3: this shows you they're constantly pulling from the Bible and stuff.
Speaker 6: Oh, just like the.
Speaker 5: What are they riding on a fish or something?
Speaker 3: Gavel machine? Oh, and they're stealing King Ogg's bed the Giant.
Speaker 5: The show, Oh my god. Yeah, and they got like
Speaker 5: they got like a clock with a ring around it,
Speaker 5: like Saturn.
Speaker 4: Like yep. Yeah, take a time travel boat.
Speaker 1: One of the first Mickey mouses had like some space
Speaker 1: traveler named Elon in it. Well, so no predictive programming there,
Speaker 1: King Ogg's fed.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 6: Well, they got to keep there.
Speaker 8: They got to keep the stories going. And they can't
Speaker 8: come out and just tell people the stories anymore because
Speaker 8: they don't want people get too hip on it, so
Speaker 8: they got to do it in increments.
Speaker 6: And then you know, it's entertainment for people like that.
Speaker 8: That's why many people, such such as myself, we watched
Speaker 8: the same shows over and over again. It's comfortable for
Speaker 8: us like me, I like to watch the Simpsons and
Speaker 8: I can see a lot of correlations with the Simpsons
Speaker 8: and how they're telling stories and stuff like that, and
Speaker 8: it's just interesting that, you know, everything is going back
Speaker 8: to trying to tell us what we had before without
Speaker 8: telling us that. You know, they don't want to just
Speaker 8: give it to people sometimes they want people to go
Speaker 8: out there and do their due diligence and stop taking
Speaker 8: word from somebody else. And you know, going in and
Speaker 8: you know, doing what you did, like you found that
Speaker 8: that petrified would you know, now you have knowledge on
Speaker 8: what to look for and all this other stuff. Like
Speaker 8: you said to the amateur eye, somebody would just walk
Speaker 8: right past it and it won't.
Speaker 6: Even take a second look at it.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, And this is just me, all right, This
Speaker 4: is just my opinion.
Speaker 7: But I just sometimes I get the feeling when I
Speaker 7: see like the previous for the Disney movies or the
Speaker 7: Superhero Movie of the Week, or any of the movies
Speaker 7: coming out right now, even more of the Rings. It
Speaker 7: seems like this is just me, but it seems like
Speaker 7: we have an ancestral memory of the way things used
Speaker 7: to be, and things used to be magical just across
Speaker 7: the boards magical, yeah, where people were used magic almost
Speaker 7: in their everyday life, like it was nothing like all
Speaker 7: their books were esoteric. There were giants, there were little
Speaker 7: people who were witches and elves and wizards, and it's
Speaker 7: just like, is that how it used to be?
Speaker 4: That's what I mean.
Speaker 5: It makes me wonder if sometimes I couldn't agree with
Speaker 5: you more.
Speaker 4: Saying the best were a species with amnesia?
Speaker 1: Yes. Do you know how obsessed people including myself got
Speaker 1: with the Harry Potter books in movies. It's like you
Speaker 1: want to live in it, like you can't separate it
Speaker 1: from reality because it's it's like a dream.
Speaker 5: You want to be a part of.
Speaker 4: The Diaries and the Twilight series that.
Speaker 7: I know a lot of people to do that.
Speaker 4: With Star Wars.
Speaker 7: I even slipped into that. At one point in my life.
Speaker 7: I was obsessed with reading Star Wars novels. I just
Speaker 7: got so sucked into. I liked it better than reality.
Speaker 4: That's what we do, entertainment. We hate our daily lives entertainment.
Speaker 5: But it's, like Tim said, I think it's because we know, like.
Speaker 1: It should be different for us, but we're stuck in
Speaker 1: like this slave society that you work, you come home,
Speaker 1: you go to sleep, you eat, you shit, and there's
Speaker 1: nothing magical at all about it, Like we're not having magical.
Speaker 5: Experience every day like we could be having.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of the hero's journey that I always
Speaker 3: talk about. You know when you read all these hero archetypes, Uh,
Speaker 3: what is it? It's a foundling, it's someone of great importance,
Speaker 3: but they don't know who they are. They've forgotten who
Speaker 3: they are. But then this wise sage comes forward and
Speaker 3: calls them to adventure. But then they have to step
Speaker 3: into the unknown, you know, and slay the drag and
Speaker 3: rescue the damsel and hold up the treasure. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's that's the archetype of all these stories. And I
Speaker 3: tell people, you know, from my point of view is
Speaker 3: a Christian point of view, we are all on the
Speaker 3: hero's journey. And who are we that we've forgotten? We're
Speaker 3: children of God and we've forgotten who we are. And
Speaker 3: just like you said, I think if we look at
Speaker 3: the pre flood world and you read the Bible and
Speaker 3: all these other mythologies and stuff, there was giants, there
Speaker 3: was wizards, there was magic.
Speaker 6: This was a.
Speaker 3: Wild and crazy place. But it's no longer like that anymore.
Speaker 3: And like I agree with you maybe all this entertainment
Speaker 3: and stories and novels are us, you know, even if
Speaker 3: it's subconsciously looking back to a time.
Speaker 2: That was like that.
Speaker 7: And then I get real deep into this mound research
Speaker 7: and I find that these people were pulling out well,
Speaker 7: first of all, there were mummies everywhere over here, so
Speaker 7: freaking mummies in Kentucky. But also al the mounds are
Speaker 7: pulling out magic wands, crystal balls and other you know,
Speaker 7: shaman masks and all kinds of other magical stuff. So
Speaker 7: it's like and then you got the giants and the
Speaker 7: little people. So it's like this is just straight up
Speaker 7: was Narnia and we're just we have a distant memory
Speaker 7: of it. Like Julia said, like this is things aren't
Speaker 7: how they should be because they're not how they used
Speaker 7: to be. We remember that as a species.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny you mentioned mummies because the Spirit Cave
Speaker 8: mummy is the oldest mummy in the Americas. So that's
Speaker 8: actually it's actually found in Nevada, So that's actually interesting
Speaker 8: you brought that up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I love the mummy stuff.
Speaker 6: They were.
Speaker 7: There was such a mummy problem that they were, Uh,
Speaker 7: there's the scout. It's something I read the other day
Speaker 7: that you know, I was reading in like an old
Speaker 7: book from the eighteen hundreds and they were talking about
Speaker 7: how there was a mummy crisis where all the mummies
Speaker 7: were being so people would find the mummy and then
Speaker 7: somebody would come in and steal their mummy so they
Speaker 7: could sell it to people over in Europe. So it's backwards.
Speaker 7: It's like you would think that we would be rich
Speaker 7: people over here would be buying Egyptian mummies. No, people
Speaker 7: over there were buying mummies from US. I was like
Speaker 7: American mummies, yes, yes, wow, like what Tyrone's talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were Egyptians that was in the Grand
Speaker 3: Canyon that the government set at the base we're no
Speaker 3: longer allowed to go to.
Speaker 5: Interesting wild.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a lot of a lot of people.
Speaker 8: That's why a lot of people say that America's is
Speaker 8: the actual by Atlantis, because when the Ice Age came
Speaker 8: over from every went back to Norman came over, you know,
Speaker 8: the different times that the Ice Ages, they said that
Speaker 8: they found a lot of higher gifts out there and
Speaker 8: artifacts of the Egyptians over there. In Nick Grand Kenyon,
Speaker 8: I've read that article and I've also read articles that
Speaker 8: said that it's been debunked, and this, that and the third.
Speaker 8: But the thing is is that they hide things so
Speaker 8: well from us, it's amazing. And then when you look
Speaker 8: at the science symbols from Albert Church's book, a Churchwards book,
Speaker 8: he talks about the Masonic signs and all that stuff.
Speaker 8: We had a discussion about that prior, you know, in
Speaker 8: the past, Nick, But the signs is what makes it different.
Speaker 8: You know, they have plenty of pictographic script here in America.
Speaker 8: They have something that's from the Shame dynasty that came
Speaker 8: over here.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: So it's just interesting that we have there's evidence here.
Speaker 8: But for some odd reason, they want to hide it.
Speaker 8: And I truly don't understand why they want to hide it,
Speaker 8: because I don't think it would even make a difference.
Speaker 6: At this point.
Speaker 8: At this point, everybody already pretty much knows about some
Speaker 8: kind of idea about it. But whether it's fact or
Speaker 8: fiction is something that they're turning into facts when they
Speaker 8: sit here and hide it, take it and destroy all
Speaker 8: the evidence and say they've never had it in the
Speaker 8: first place.
Speaker 1: Well that would mean they'd have to admit to everybody
Speaker 1: that they've been through an mk fucking program through from
Speaker 1: elementary school through college, that we've been completely lied to
Speaker 1: about every aspect of human history, because the same thing,
Speaker 1: like what you're talking about with like the giants, going
Speaker 1: all the way back into time, it's documented throughout all cultures.
Speaker 1: The same with vampire lore actually too, China going all
Speaker 1: the way back to the Garden of Eden with like
Speaker 1: Lilith all that shit vampire lore, and people are obsessed
Speaker 1: with vampires. They literally have found bodies in China with
Speaker 1: the heads cut off, bound up bodies like with cinderblocks
Speaker 1: weighing them down, with inscriptions that said, motherfucker came back
Speaker 1: to life and tried to eat my family. Rip and
Speaker 1: then like the name of the person, going all the
Speaker 1: way back into time. It's in Native American culture, it's
Speaker 1: in Egypt everywhere, and a lot of them were huge
Speaker 1: skeletons talking about rising back up out of the grave
Speaker 1: snacking on people's family. So I'm just saying it goes
Speaker 1: all the way back to the beginning of time. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: literally rising up out of the grave and having to
Speaker 1: be decapitated, which goes along with my theory on why
Speaker 1: sometimes you only find the skull it could be part
Speaker 1: of an alter situation. A lot of folk lore says
Speaker 1: that they would rise up after death and snack on
Speaker 1: people's family, and that they had to be decappotato. So
Speaker 1: that might be why you're only finding the skull and
Speaker 1: not the rest of the skeleton.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: In China they had a real problem with it. Apparently
Speaker 1: they had cinderblocks on top of the graves. They had
Speaker 1: all this stuff, a name for it, and oddly enough,
Speaker 1: it kind of intertwines with the spirit that they held
Speaker 1: responsible for sleep paralysis. So just saying there's like a
Speaker 1: hierarchy of weird entities, spirits that inhabited human bodies and shit,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it's it's that's why you know I'm.
Speaker 5: Pregnant right now.
Speaker 1: And when my kid comes home and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: guess what I learned today, I'm gonna say, shit, nothing,
Speaker 1: you learned the zip you learn zero, because it's all
Speaker 1: just lies.
Speaker 5: It's all lies.
Speaker 8: Was actually the first vampire according to the Silars. According
Speaker 8: to Samuel Noah Kramer, He's He actually says in his
Speaker 8: book that she is the first vampire, or what is
Speaker 8: described as a vampire.
Speaker 6: He actually uses the word in his book.
Speaker 1: I know it.
Speaker 5: That's it's crazy.
Speaker 7: With the analyte bloodlookers that were brought up earlier.
Speaker 4: Or whatever.
Speaker 8: It's crazy because I know I talk about that a
Speaker 8: lot of times to a lot of people about how
Speaker 8: Lilith is the first vampire, because I actually like the
Speaker 8: movie Blade and I actually learned that that timeframe when
Speaker 8: that movie came out. And the reason why I learned it, Yeah,
Speaker 8: the reason why I learned how I came to learning
Speaker 8: about it was I was watching a documentary on it
Speaker 8: and I could never And when I got the chance
Speaker 8: to buy Samy and Noa. Kramer's book and read it
Speaker 8: for myself, I was like, Okay, now that makes sense,
Speaker 8: and you know, and I.
Speaker 6: Even tested it.
Speaker 8: I know a lot of people would like to go
Speaker 8: to Grock and Jack Gpt and look for their answers
Speaker 8: and stuff like that. So a lot of times what
Speaker 8: I like to do is take my books and see
Speaker 8: how accurate Jack GPT would be towarded. So I actually
Speaker 8: acted Jack Gpt and Rock if if Lilith is considered
Speaker 8: a vampire, and they'll say no, straight up no. But
Speaker 8: then I'll take a picture of the book, because you know,
Speaker 8: you can take the picture of the book and sending
Speaker 8: the jack Ebt and they'll analyze it and they'll say, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: I see what you're talking about. Actually took a picture
Speaker 8: of the book and the paragraph that I said it
Speaker 8: from from Samuel Noah Kramer, and it came back and said,
Speaker 8: I guess so.
Speaker 6: And I was just like, see this.
Speaker 8: And that's what's going to hurt a lot of people
Speaker 8: in the future, is because people are gonna get lazy
Speaker 8: and lazier. You know, back in the day, when you
Speaker 8: google something, you have to actually open up the article
Speaker 8: and read it for yourself. Now people are just grocking
Speaker 8: and chat ept and and get a very quick answer
Speaker 8: on it, and they're not getting all the information that
Speaker 8: they want. So when somebody says, has there been giants
Speaker 8: find in the Grand Canyon or artifacts in the Grand Canyon,
Speaker 8: they'll read that it's been debunked, and this, that and
Speaker 8: the third, and they won't really find any real hard
Speaker 8: sources unless they go in there and ask it, give
Speaker 8: me a source for this, give me a source for that,
Speaker 8: Give me a peer reviewed article on this, give me
Speaker 8: a peer reviewed article on that, give me the esoteric
Speaker 8: version of it, and so on. And so forth, a
Speaker 8: lot of people are going to skip all that hard
Speaker 8: work and just go straight to Jack GPT and grock
Speaker 8: it and get the easiest answer they possibly can get.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's how Mandela effects happen to you, because they can
Speaker 1: just Google can just tell you anything. You can google
Speaker 1: something and it can say, yeah, in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: this this, this, and it's like, I know for a
Speaker 1: fact that is not true. Even says that it is.
Speaker 9: Now chat GPT just gave me, like just spit out
Speaker 9: by like two pages about how Lilith Loveth has been
Speaker 9: considered a family.
Speaker 6: You know what's so funny.
Speaker 7: Just told me it's like constantly updating itself too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, over the place.
Speaker 2: And I'll explain this one.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, this is no, this is this
Speaker 8: is this is interesting because I will actually tell Jack
Speaker 8: GPT and i' and I've looked at the terms and services.
Speaker 8: Once you tell this something and you can back it up,
Speaker 8: it keeps it in its memory break for everybody. So
Speaker 8: like Tim says, it does update and I know this
Speaker 8: for a fact, And I tell you the reason why.
Speaker 8: When I went to a local museum, I took a
Speaker 8: picture of a piece of paper about one of the
Speaker 8: slaves around here, and I went to go chat GPT
Speaker 8: and it said that the information was incorrect on there.
Speaker 6: Now I did this on a whole different account. Then
Speaker 6: I gave it the information.
Speaker 8: I showed the little paper and showed all the information
Speaker 8: that was on there, and it says, okay, it's going
Speaker 8: to update this thing. So I went on to a
Speaker 8: different account that had no correlations with anything on my
Speaker 8: I asked it the same thing, and it gave the
Speaker 8: correct information after that. So I think a lot of
Speaker 8: times when you actually give it as sources because I
Speaker 8: like to plug, I like to take pictures of the
Speaker 8: book and the pages or whatever it is.
Speaker 6: I read it from even video.
Speaker 8: It will even analyze videos and it will say right
Speaker 8: there that in in terms of services, it will it
Speaker 8: does tell you and there that it updates it once
Speaker 8: it gets you know, verification on what you say. Now,
Speaker 8: this can be the Wikipedia thing, you know, can somebody
Speaker 8: prove something to refute your information, and chat GPT has
Speaker 8: to decide which one is accurate and which one and
Speaker 8: that's when you can go to some of the article
Speaker 8: or sometimes they'll bring up YouTube videos or even rumbo
Speaker 8: videos for you to read for or watch for yourself,
Speaker 8: and sometimes articles on top of that.
Speaker 6: So it was actually interesting how how simple it's getting.
Speaker 1: So you're saying I'm smarter than chat GPT, probably because
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Session.
Speaker 6: Look, give it a test. I challenge everybody. I challenge
Speaker 6: everybody in here to do that.
Speaker 8: If you know something in your book, and you know
Speaker 8: something very well, go to chat GPT, you ask it
Speaker 8: and when it gives you an incorrect answer, take a
Speaker 8: picture of it and put it. Plug it in there
Speaker 8: and see what it does. It would it will tell
Speaker 8: you that it's going to update this information. I've done
Speaker 8: it a few times, especially with the Samerian text. And
Speaker 8: the only reason why is because, uh, it's a lot
Speaker 8: of the stuff that people know comes from Zacharai sitchin
Speaker 8: You know, more people know about Zachari Sitchen than they
Speaker 8: know about Samuel Noah Kramer or George Smith or Andrew
Speaker 8: George even right, or even Irving Finkel at that matter, right,
Speaker 8: they know more about Sitching than those individuals, and those
Speaker 8: individuals where ever, were able to actually give you the
Speaker 8: cuneiform tablet identify fires for you to go read for yourself.
Speaker 8: So it's just interesting how it's getting to the point
Speaker 8: where you know the information.
Speaker 6: Is being processed and given to everybody in the mask.
Speaker 4: Yeh, sision was a big fraud anyway he was.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 5: That's why.
Speaker 8: And you know what, and that's so funny you say
Speaker 8: that because I actually created I'm creating a powerpoints presentation
Speaker 8: on how inaccurate he was, and I'm using the same
Speaker 8: sources that he tried to say that he had too.
Speaker 8: But I guess at this point he didn't really think
Speaker 8: people were going to do their due diligence. And what
Speaker 8: really messes up the game is not to throw shade
Speaker 8: on anybody, but Billy Carson actually follows a lot with
Speaker 8: Sitchen says too. And you can't find any of the
Speaker 8: information that Sitchen says. It's really funny because doctor Michael
Speaker 8: as Hya actually created a website called Sitching.
Speaker 4: Is Wrong to show you how inaccurate every time for
Speaker 4: a debate.
Speaker 8: He could not not only on him out, his website
Speaker 8: was caught Sitching is wrong, Like this dude had a
Speaker 8: real beef with Sitching in his incorrect information that he
Speaker 8: went and bought a website created it.
Speaker 1: Sitch is so rightfully so because he is a big fraud.
Speaker 1: I was thinking it and then Doc said it, but yeah.
Speaker 7: He uh heiser r I p Heiser, Yeah Heiser.
Speaker 4: I mean he was a scholar in many ancient dead languages,
Speaker 4: so I mean this was his field.
Speaker 2: And so you had this.
Speaker 3: Schmuck with no degrees, no college education, coming out and
Speaker 3: saying he's deciphered all these things and come up with
Speaker 3: these new translations. And so yeah, Mike was trying to
Speaker 3: call him out and expose him as a fraud because
Speaker 3: that was his expertise. That's what he went to school
Speaker 3: and studied for years. But Zacharis said, you wouldn't have
Speaker 3: nothing to do with him. Mikey went on coast to
Speaker 3: coast am and called him out, and millions.
Speaker 6: He challenged him to a debate too.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, yeah, he called him out.
Speaker 6: He told him to give him just the cuneiform tablet identifiers.
Speaker 8: That's why you always will hear me say cuniform tablet identifiers,
Speaker 8: because there's actually a website that we can all go
Speaker 8: to and look at the cuniform uh tablets ourselves. It's
Speaker 8: called the Cuniform Digital Library of Initiative. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 8: I learned all this from doctor Michael. He that's why
Speaker 8: I was telling Doc Brown earlier. One thing about me
Speaker 8: is I have to have the sources on hand. So
Speaker 8: if you're saying a source says something, I should be
Speaker 8: able to read that same exact source you did. If
Speaker 8: you're telling me there's no source for it then and
Speaker 8: it's your own translation, then how can I basically verify
Speaker 8: your information. I'm just supposed to trust it. Well, trusting
Speaker 8: is what got me in the problem in the first place,
Speaker 8: because if this has actual facts and no fiction at all,
Speaker 8: this information should be easily accessible to anybody. But you know,
Speaker 8: since you know, he really did hide a lot of stuff,
Speaker 8: and I've read his books and I know he says
Speaker 8: that he didn't want to expose some or tell on
Speaker 8: some of the people that helped him get some of
Speaker 8: the information, and this, that and the third. But he
Speaker 8: never recreated the tablets himself. You know, it's so easy
Speaker 8: to recreate them. He doesn't have to take the actual
Speaker 8: picture of it. But there's no picture of it, no
Speaker 8: recreation or nothing, no artist drawing or any of that stuff.
Speaker 8: So it's just I really do like this conversation you me.
Speaker 8: I think we got a lot in common I'm definitely
Speaker 8: gonna stay in content because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love good conversation. Holler at me anytime.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I love working with Doc Brown.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's always it's always a good time with the
Speaker 9: duck yoh man. Man, thank you very much for coming on, Bro.
Speaker 9: I really appreciate it, especially in such a short notice
Speaker 9: of hell yeah, hell yeah. You know, it was just
Speaker 9: like really, it was just I wanted to get you
Speaker 9: on sooner than later because I don't want to keep
Speaker 9: putting it off.
Speaker 2: It's been too long already.
Speaker 9: So and I know you're also a busy man, so
Speaker 9: you were like, oh, I do have today. I was like,
Speaker 9: oh shit, let me just fucking jump on that, so
Speaker 9: because it could be like a month and a half
Speaker 9: and I didn't want to wait. So but I really
Speaker 9: had a good time. Thank you everybody else too for
Speaker 9: joining us. Doc before we have you plug your stuff, Juliet.
Speaker 2: Let everybody know where you can find your show. We
Speaker 2: get in touch with you.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually, if you want to work with me or have
Speaker 1: me on your show, I don't really get on Instagram
Speaker 1: in that inbox, so email me at ghost dot peach
Speaker 1: at outlook dot com. Love working with Doc. I think
Speaker 1: this is like the third or fourth time we have
Speaker 1: had a conversation. It's always super interesting. I super enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, of.
Speaker 2: Course, thank you for coming on. And Tyrone what is
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 8: So Hi, yeah, thank you, thank you. Man, this is
Speaker 8: a good thing. I'd like I tell you that told
Speaker 8: you earlier. Man, I think we have a lot in common. Man,
Speaker 8: I was really following what you were saying. Everything you
Speaker 8: can find on me is rebirth of theWord. Dot com
Speaker 8: is my own website. I have YouTube you'll feel to
Speaker 8: see all that through my website. You also can buy
Speaker 8: my book Journey through the Origins of History, which went
Speaker 8: number one on Amazon Bestsellers.
Speaker 6: So check that out.
Speaker 10: Like I said, dot you on it, man, I like
Speaker 10: the information. Thanks Nick, appreciate it of course. Hell yeah,
Speaker 10: thank you, thank you for coming on. And we got
Speaker 10: Tim Constantine what is going on? So please let everybody
Speaker 10: know where they can find your stuff again?
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks again, thanks Julia, Doc, Nick, Tyrone fear I
Speaker 7: don't know you, but cool cond cool Uh comments there
Speaker 7: read some of your stuff. Uh yeah, Tim Pounce Team's
Speaker 7: sixth Sensory podcast. I'm actually dropping an episode with Doc
Speaker 7: tonight on YouTube and then tomorrow on Cult of Conspiracy,
Speaker 7: I'm dropping an episode with doc as well. So uh
Speaker 7: but yeah, sixth Sensory Podcasts.
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me all right, Oh, thank you, Tim,
Speaker 9: I appreciate it. Sorry, I sent the link late my bed. Yes,
Speaker 9: and uh fear fear, We're gonna see if you can
Speaker 9: let you plug yourself. Unfortunately I sent him to link
Speaker 9: late too, so, uh fear, can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Do you want to say? Do you want to plug yourself?
Speaker 2: Do you want to say anything?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 11: Uh, I don't know if anybody can hear me, So
Speaker 11: let's just give this a shot. But yeah, I'm still
Speaker 11: working on the cookbook right now. I'm trying to raise
Speaker 11: funds for a camera, so a proper camera so I
Speaker 11: could take the images. But yeah, be on the lookout
Speaker 11: for disobedience. I'm sorry I couldn't quite jump up on
Speaker 11: the mic earlier. I did share all my information inside
Speaker 11: the chat, so like, if anyone's interested in what I
Speaker 11: had to share, you can anyone go look in there.
Speaker 11: I'm sure that it's going to be logged. Thank you
Speaker 11: for having me on. I know I just kind of
Speaker 11: looked like I was sitting here, but the only way
Speaker 11: I could participate was at least put the information out
Speaker 11: there in chat, and I'm happy to do that.
Speaker 4: But thank you everyone, and great conversation.
Speaker 11: By the way, and yeah, there's a lot that I
Speaker 11: really would love to comment in there, but that's going
Speaker 11: to be for like separate conversations.
Speaker 4: However, again, thank you, and this has been.
Speaker 9: A blast of course, Thank you, sir. Sorry about your connection.
Speaker 9: Hopefully by the next time we get you on it'll
Speaker 9: be working a lot better. But I appreciate you trying
Speaker 9: to jump on anyway. I mean, it was my idea.
Speaker 9: I was like, fuck it, let's see what happens. I
Speaker 9: was like, if anything, just showed off the camera, but
Speaker 9: still didn't help. But for people who do watch the
Speaker 9: videos and check the live replay, he did throw tons
Speaker 9: and tons of stuff up in that chat. He wasn't lying,
Speaker 9: so go check that out. And now finally, Doc, please
Speaker 9: uh like you, like I said, you brought the heat.
Speaker 9: You brought it with ninety three octane.
Speaker 4: That's what's up, ninety three all the way, baby, my man.
Speaker 2: So please let everybody know where they can find you
Speaker 2: out sir.
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, thank you for having me. You know, I've
Speaker 3: worked with a lot of you guys multiple times. This
Speaker 3: is my first time meeting YouTube gentlemen. Then, like you said,
Speaker 3: I think we have some good conversations in the future.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anywhere you guys can consume content, guys a YouTube, Apple, Spotify, Instagram,
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Speaker 3: you get three chapters of my book for free, and
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Speaker 4: Sign up for the newsletter.
Speaker 3: Could get all kinds of updates on conferences and stuff
Speaker 3: that I'm doing and stuff about the show.
Speaker 2: I like that, dude. I'm definitely gonna sign up for
Speaker 2: that newsletter. That's what's up, doc.
Speaker 9: Thank you again, man, Like I said, you always, you know,
Speaker 9: you always bring tons and tons of info. I appreciate
Speaker 9: you jumping on so fast, and you know everybody else,
Speaker 9: Thank you for joining. It was really a great show
Speaker 9: or some chats, tons of stuff that I didn't know
Speaker 9: anything about.
Speaker 2: And that's what's up. Everybody in the chat. Thank you.
Speaker 9: There was a lot of people here again from the
Speaker 9: beginning to the end, and a lot of great stuff
Speaker 9: added in there as well. And that is end of
Speaker 9: the end of another Occult Rejects and until the next one,
Speaker 9: everybody be well later