WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:05.160 Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason, this week 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.199 covering the nineteen seventy nine film Alien. 3 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:15.359 Welcome to Spacey Now. 4 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:18.640 I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are starting to 5 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:22.199 discuss the Alien franchise, one movie at a time, and 6 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.399 at the moment of this recording, the first film is 7 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:27.839 available to stream on Hulu. This podcast is being released 8 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:29.960 on two different podcast feeds, so if you have found 9 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.039 it through the Spacing Out with Alien podcast feed, then 10 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:35.119 I invite you to check out our main channel, Spacing 11 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.240 Out with BB and Jason, where we have covered things 12 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.560 like Battlestar Galactica star trek Our Flagman's death, plus many 13 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.039 more thanks to come. So, we are only discussing the 14 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:47.439 first Alien movie today, so if there is any discussion 15 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.759 of other entries into the franchise, we will save that 16 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:51.960 for a spoiler section at the end of the podcast, 17 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:54.000 So if you haven't seen the other movies yet, we 18 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.000 will shield you from spoilers. Although, to be honest, my 19 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.159 memory of the other movies are not that great, not 20 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:01.439 that great, so I know. 21 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.439 The memories suck. The memories are just like, oh, just 22 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:09.079 remember bad memories. That's what it sounded like. Like you 23 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.040 only have bad memories about the book. 24 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.879 No, I just have a poor memory, that's what I was. Yeah, Okay, 25 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.640 I've definitely seen the first two movies multiple times, but. 26 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:22.239 I feel like I've seen this first movie once. Maybe, 27 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:26.239 but I was not cognitively proficient. It was a long 28 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:26.760 time ago. 29 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:29.640 But for now we are talking about Alien, which originally 30 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.719 premiered May twenty fifth, nineteen seventy nine, written by Dan O'Bannon, 31 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:37.000 with a story by Dan O'Bannon, Ronald Triushtt, and directed 32 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.719 by Ridley Scott. A quick plot summary. In the distant future, 33 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:43.439 the crew of the commercial spaceship Nostromo is on its 34 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:45.560 way home when the crew picks up a distress call 35 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:48.760 from a distant moon. The crew is under obligation to investigate, 36 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:52.200 and the spaceship descends on the small planetoid afterward, after 37 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:54.920 a rough landing, three crew members leave the spaceship to 38 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.319 explore the area on the planetoid. At the same time, 39 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.439 as the crew discovers a hive colony of some unknown creature. 40 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:02.959 Of the ship's computer deciphers the message to be a warning, 41 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:05.040 not a just stress call. When one of the eggs 42 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.480 is disturbed, the crew realizes it is not alone on 43 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.719 the spaceship and must deal with the consequences. I pulled 44 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:14.240 this from IMDb, and it's definitely like a promotional plot 45 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:16.879 summary because it doesn't really go into what else happens. 46 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:23.360 But right, vibe check. Did we like the movie overall? 47 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.039 How does it stand the test of time? 48 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.080 Alien nineteen seventy nine. 49 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.479 It's a classic. I don't know, it feels like when 50 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.080 I was watching it, I'm like, oh, this movie's old, 51 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:39.719 but somehow it felt super authentic. So I really enjoyed 52 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:43.159 it even though it was like from the seventies. 53 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:46.520 Yeah, I mean there's just definitely something like really like 54 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.319 authentic I guess about it, And yeah. 55 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:52.479 It like stands the test of time, as you would say, 56 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:55.800 and it still feels relevant somehow. We've been in like 57 00:02:56.120 --> 00:03:01.159 twenty twenty four, like a company like calling a crew 58 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:05.360 expendable at the cost, like willing to sacrifice the lives 59 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:08.280 of humans in order for them to profit off of 60 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:18.039 a military advantage. Yeah, so it's like very relatable, Like. 61 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.439 Yeah, it's very like simple in that regard that. Like 62 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:25.000 we've got seven characters, I think, and it's all on 63 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:28.000 the spaceship and on the planet right there, Like there's 64 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:30.719 no other like world building happening. 65 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.400 Right, But there's plenty of world building just with the 66 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:37.919 sets themselves, Like you can tell it's not of this time. Yeah, 67 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.639 And I'm sure back in the seventies this movie was 68 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:41.520 like crazy. 69 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.159 Yeah. So I've definitely seen this a few times, and 70 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.319 I'm always like, I know, I just like I forget 71 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.840 the specifics of it, and so it's always really fresh 72 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:51.639 when I rewatch it. 73 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.319 Nice. So I liked it, and I do think it 74 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.159 stands the test of time. Like I would recommend this 75 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:01.360 film to somebody who wanted to see like a sci 76 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:03.400 fi thriller. I think it's cool. 77 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.800 Yeah, it is forty five years old. 78 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:06.360 Damn. 79 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:08.800 Apparently they had it in theaters early this year. 80 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:12.080 Oh we missed it yep, back in May probably right? 81 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:16.199 Uh yeah, trivia time? 82 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.040 What facts could we uncover for Alien? 83 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:19.399 All? 84 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.600 Right? Trivia? I say this every time we cover a movie. 85 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:25.879 There is tons and tons of trivia out there. For 86 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.240 this movie, I'm just going to scrape the very like 87 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:32.560 broad surface of it here. So if you're like, are 88 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:34.879 an expert in alien trivia, I'm not going to tell 89 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:35.600 you anything new. 90 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.920 Yeah, Well, I don't have any knowledge of it, so 91 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:40.959 I'd be interested to see any nation. 92 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:43.240 I'm pretty sure you could buy like books on it 93 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:43.839 at this point. 94 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:45.399 Oh, I'm sure, all right. 95 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.600 So the script was in the work for several years 96 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.160 before signing with twentieth Century Fox had the script produced, 97 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.120 and the studio was initially not very interested in financing 98 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.360 a science fiction film, but the success of Star Wars 99 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.000 in nineteen seventy seven changed all that, so they went 100 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.319 ahead with the only space script they had on their desk. 101 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.480 Very different from Star Wars. Yeah, but I think in 102 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.040 a lot of really great ways. 103 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.319 Ridley Scott came on board as director and began creating 104 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.839 storyboards for the look of the film, and these impressed 105 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.120 the studio so much that they doubled the budget of 106 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:17.519 the film. 107 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.360 Wow, look at him, he's a doodler. 108 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:23.839 Yeah, It's like, what if it looked really cool? 109 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.800 What if it looked like this, like ancient science Like 110 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:33.519 it's like somehow ancient looking but very like technologically advanced, 111 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.959 like rig Or Spaceship. I love it. It's great. 112 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:40.279 Alien originally was to conclude with the destruction of the 113 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.439 Nostromo while Ripley escapes in the shuttle However, Scott conceived 114 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.399 of the fourth act to the film, in which the 115 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.839 alien appears on the shuttle and Ripley is forced to 116 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.040 confront it. He pitched the idea of the twentieth century 117 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:54.120 Fox and negotiated another budget increased the film the scene 118 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.720 of the Next Few Days Wow. A crew of over 119 00:05:56.759 --> 00:06:00.519 two hundred craftspeople and technicians constructed the three principal sets, 120 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.600 the surface of the alien planetoid, the interiors, and the 121 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.920 stromo and the they're like spacecraft and like that's like 122 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:08.920 that one point, like you can dive in and find 123 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.639 so much information about how they created everything in the 124 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:13.879 two hundred. 125 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:18.639 People that's like bigger than most art schools in like 126 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.639 like if or an art department, Like if you took 127 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:28.040 like the ceramic, the the sculpture, the painting, the all 128 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:31.680 of that two hundred people that it shows. I think 129 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:38.639 it shows really like like the meticulous, thoughtful handwork that 130 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.439 happened in this in this production, like the set design. 131 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.519 Yeah, like art direction was on point. And I think 132 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.360 that's one of the reasons this is such a classic. 133 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:52.519 Right because I'm pretty damn sure this is a zero 134 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:57.759 CGI film, so it's all like practical effects the only 135 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:02.360 computer images were those nineteen eighties kind of TV screens 136 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:05.959 that you saw, So it's a very cool to see 137 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:11.720 the juxtaposition of all this handwork next to the very 138 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.839 early images of what a computer was giving to people. 139 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:20.480 The film utilizes lots of miniature photography, with models made 140 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:25.040 of the different locations and chips. The space suits were thick, heavy, hot, 141 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:28.600 and lacked ventilation, and eventually, after they shot for a while, 142 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.240 oxygen systems were added to help the actors breathe. 143 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.319 Thank god, they were like functioning space suits. 144 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:38.720 No production stills of The Alien were released in order 145 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.839 to keep the design of the creature surprised for audiences. 146 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:43.680 It was freaky. I was creeped out. 147 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.079 The initial cut of the film was over three hours long, 148 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.560 and the final cut is one hundred and sixteen minutes. 149 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:53.000 Three hours long. That's like Dune. 150 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.360 Yeah, well, I think that's pretty common. 151 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:59.240 For a film to be three hours long. The initial stage, first. 152 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.360 Cut, and then they could down find the right pacing 153 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:02.040 for everything. 154 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.759 They're like an extended cut of that original I wonder. 155 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:07.319 Oh that's the next point. 156 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:08.240 Oh okay. 157 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.720 A director's cut was released in two thousand and three 158 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.120 for The Alien. Quadrileogy box set, and some deleted scenes 159 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:18.000 are restored, while other scenes are cut, causing this version 160 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:21.480 to be slightly shorter, and Ridley Scott considers the theatrical 161 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:23.759 cut to be the better one. So the studio had 162 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:26.319 approached him with like restoring a lot of these scenes, 163 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.800 but he didn't like how it slowed the movie down, 164 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.680 so he chose to add some and take some albums 165 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.399 create like kind of a different version. Alien has had 166 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:38.519 a budget of eleven million and a box office gross 167 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:41.519 of one hundred and eighty four million damn, and despite 168 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.799 initial mixed reviews, Alien has received critical acclaim over the years, 169 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:49.360 particularly for its realism and unique environment, and decided as 170 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:52.600 one of the best films of nineteen seventy nine and 171 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.600 is seen as one of the most influential science fiction films. 172 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:59.000 Won the Academy Award for Best Visual Effects, was nominated 173 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:02.720 for Best Art Direction, and it's also was nominated one 174 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.279 several other awards as well, including a Hugo Award and 175 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:09.039 several Saturn Awards. Alien has frequently been the subject of 176 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:14.000 cinematic analysis, particularly the sexual imagery of the alien, non 177 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:22.720 consensual reproduction, the male fear of penetration, body horror, and abjection, 178 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:27.080 which is the breakdown of conventual borders and rules. And 179 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:30.559 writer Dan O'Bannon has argued that the oral invasion of 180 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:34.240 Kine by the Face Hugger functions as payback for the 181 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.679 many horror films in which sexually vulnerable women are attacked 182 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:38.639 by male monsters. 183 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:43.679 Oh, who's Dan O'Brien, Obannon, he's the writer. Oh, he's 184 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:47.480 the writer. He's like, well, stick this in your type 185 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:48.159 and smoke it. 186 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:52.000 And finally, the success of the film launched a franchise 187 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:55.559 with several sequels, prequels, novels, comics, games, and more. 188 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:02.639 Deep Space Dove, let's break down some of our thoughts 189 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.519 on the film. You can share your thoughts with us 190 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.320 through email or social media. We may use your comments 191 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.440 on an upcoming episode. 192 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:15.039 Wow, I really, I think it's really interesting to think 193 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:20.399 about how the male gaze was subverted in that in 194 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.159 the way that Dan O'Bannon was talking about. That's really 195 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:27.519 interesting perspective. I think if I would have had that 196 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:32.480 quote and that information before I started watching it, or 197 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.639 like initially, I think I would have been paying attention 198 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:38.399 to it from a different like I would have definitely 199 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:42.919 seen a lot that is very clear, and it does 200 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:47.000 not I mean, there is not a lot of misogyny 201 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:50.799 in this film. There's some like objective like that she 202 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:57.200 really need to get almost naked, but I mean it's 203 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:00.200 it's a film in the seventies. You got to you 204 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.200 got a little you gotta have a little tits and. 205 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:06.600 Ass did her underwear like not? Was it not able 206 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:07.519 to come up all the way? 207 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:13.320 Did they not have it in her size? It just 208 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.320 didn't look like it fit her, but it fit her well, 209 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:18.840 Like she looked good, and I think she was like 210 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:24.320 probably considered a sex symbol of the time because of that, 211 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.919 but not in a way like you would think of 212 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.600 Leah in the slave outfit. You know, there's more autonomy 213 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:35.120 and agency in this character. So interesting. I guess when 214 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:40.960 I think of male fears, I think about like masculinity 215 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:46.840 being challenged in some way, But damn they really went there, huh. 216 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.159 Also like the fear of pregnancies in there as well. 217 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.679 Yeah, well should we start from the beginning, like they 218 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.480 come out of these pods in diapers. 219 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.960 Yeah, So there's not a lot of dialogue in the beginning. 220 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.639 It's a lot of like scratching and showing around the 221 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:04.159 ship and everything. 222 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:06.399 I mean, the art you have to show like we 223 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:12.440 spent We had two hundred artisans, artists working on this 224 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:16.200 tirelessly for god knows how long, So we want to 225 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:16.960 show that off. 226 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:19.879 Well, the first thing that I noticed was that Sigourney 227 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.960 Weaver was not the top builled cast member. Well, this 228 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.879 is the second one that Dallas guy, Yeah I believe. 229 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:29.320 So yeah, Tom Scaret as Dallas and honestly, through like 230 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:31.559 at least like the first half the movie, like, it's 231 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:33.399 not a parent that she's going to be the lead. 232 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:33.840 No. 233 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:37.399 I like that though. I like that there's a she's 234 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.519 the final girl, but not in the conventional way where 235 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:45.960 you're kind of I'm thinking of Halloween with Jamie Lee Curtis, 236 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.519 where she's introduced and is obviously the main girl. So 237 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.679 it's it's but she is the final girl. 238 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.360 It's just interesting, like knowing the film and like the 239 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.080 franchise in pop culture and like Sigourney Weaver. 240 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:04.320 She's like it was established later on to be mother. Yeah, 241 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:09.759 so but uh yeah, it's really interesting because she is 242 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:15.240 the cornerstone eventually of this film franchise. Yeah, but initially Yeah, 243 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:17.679 I mean, it could have very well been her or 244 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:22.639 the other any other character in this film. But damn, 245 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:26.080 there was so many twists and turns, like I didn't 246 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.799 know what was going to happen. Like initially they were 247 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.480 just going home. They got up for some because the 248 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.519 ship is like we got a signal, we got to 249 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:38.080 follow it. 250 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.679 Yeah, So I guess they believe that they've been woken 251 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:42.960 up because they're almost home. 252 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.679 Yeah, because that's the regular protocol. 253 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:49.720 Yeah. So they don't even like check before they eat breakfast. 254 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:53.440 Yeah, they eat breakfast, they like take a long pee, 255 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:55.039 you know, they get up. 256 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.759 Is wild that no one went and checked. That's like, 257 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.440 I don't know, waking up and getting ready you without 258 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:01.639 like choking the weather. 259 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:07.600 Yeah yeah. But yeah, so they're they're woken up like 260 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.919 ten months early or some shit, or they're not even 261 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.159 on the way home. They've been rerouted. 262 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.799 And some of them care a lot about how big 263 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.159 of a share they're getting out of the profits from 264 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:22.399 their their refinery work that they're doing. 265 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:24.519 Yeah, I mean it sounds like they didn't get a 266 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.399 very fair deal. Yeah, they're only getting half of a 267 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.000 share instead of a whole share, and it seems like 268 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:32.480 they're doing most of the grunt work. So there's like 269 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.320 a hierarchy that's being established and within the crew, and 270 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:39.720 we see that too with the captain. And then they 271 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.679 go out and s Gourdiney Weaver is now the acting captain, 272 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:48.519 and that guy Ash is a total dick. God, I 273 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.200 hate that guy. He's the worst. 274 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:53.480 Well he kind of turned out to be the villain. 275 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:57.759 Yeah, yeah, he really did. He's acting in the interests 276 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.919 of the company, and we don't do we find out 277 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:02.759 which company this is. 278 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:04.840 I don't think they name it, it's. 279 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:09.120 Just the company. It's very like big brother is watching us, 280 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.639 kind of like they will withhold payment if we don't 281 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.759 investigate this. They will punish us if we don't do 282 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.279 the thing we're supposed to do, follow protocol. It's crazy. 283 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.279 But so they go and they're like none of them 284 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:29.159 except for Ash are scientists, right, and the fact that 285 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:34.279 they land on a strange planet that's never been explored, 286 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:37.960 and they're just like, oh, we'll just walk over, like 287 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:41.240 let's just go check it out without and then like 288 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:44.879 I don't remember if they took weapons or any sort 289 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:50.080 of like translators or any sort of field equipment to 290 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:56.159 take samples or pictures or anything that would say we 291 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:00.159 are going to document this. The one camera shot that 292 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.600 they had was from the ship, and I didn't I 293 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:06.360 didn't really I didn't notice that he was like, Okay, 294 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.480 stop right there, let's take a picture or anything like that. 295 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.840 There was no indication that this was being documented for 296 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:16.279 like future expeditions, because in my head, I would think, 297 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:21.279 you have cargo on your ship that has a monetary value. 298 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:26.000 Shouldn't your priority be to document the distress signal and 299 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:31.440 take it to the appropriate authorities, like an actual science 300 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:36.120 ship or a military ship or something that would be 301 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:40.120 able to investigate this properly. And why wouldn't you send 302 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:45.039 your science officer over to help and be like, oh, 303 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.000 you guys, you know what this looks like this or 304 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.039 that or you know. In my head that makes sense, 305 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:55.240 like a science officer would definitely be boots on the ground, 306 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:00.639 like maybe taking samples of the dirt and shit, yeah, 307 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:02.519 maybe I've watched too much Star Trek. 308 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:05.680 They don't know what they're walking into. I assume they're 309 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:09.000 looking for like people as center the stress. 310 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:11.359 Call, but they don't know if it's people. It's been 311 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.680 established that they're not sure who or what they're looking 312 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.400 for and they don't know if it's dangerous or not. 313 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.240 The fact that they didn't analyze the message before going 314 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:25.839 out and figuring and like poking around is unheard of. 315 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:31.799 But that also shows maybe how they aren't trained for 316 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:36.039 this type of like stop, they're not supposed like they 317 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:39.200 should not have ever stopped. They should have taken the 318 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:42.599 coordinates and sent them to their company and been like, 319 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:44.960 we have to go. But then their company could have 320 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:47.440 been like, well, you didn't follow protocol and we're going 321 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:50.160 to fucking take all of your pay. Yeah, so the 322 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.680 company knew somehow, and it makes me think that maybe 323 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:58.200 this company has lost more than this is not their 324 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:02.240 first time trying to exp tracked the alien out of 325 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:03.599 this planet, mate. 326 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:05.240 Yeah, I mean they know it's there. 327 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.759 Yeah, they set up they sent an alien or not 328 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:09.960 an alien, a robot. 329 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.599 Yeah. They swapped out the science officer so that they 330 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:13.720 would have that guy there. 331 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.720 Yeah, because I'm guessing no normal human would be like, yeah, 332 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:21.359 let's go on a mission where the crew is expendable. 333 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:24.640 But even the the robot was programmed to be kind 334 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.200 of weird. They just programmed him to be the worst. 335 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:31.680 I don't know, because if they would have listened to 336 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:39.240 was it Ridley Ripley? Ripley Ripley, Ridley's the director? Okay Ripley. 337 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.279 If they would have listened to Ripley and done the quarantine, 338 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:48.039 then Homeboy would have had that little alien thing explode 339 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.720 out of his spacesuit. Yep, and there wouldn't there would 340 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:53.279 be a movie. 341 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.359 Yeah, if they followed the protocol, then they would have 342 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.079 been safe except for that one guy. 343 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:02.720 Yeah, well and those two others that were with him potentially, 344 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:05.400 but who knows where that little thing would have scurried 345 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:09.079 off to right to grow into this big alien thing. 346 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:15.759 The gestation process was so fast. Yeah, holy shit. But 347 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.759 it was creepy how he was like down there. He's like, oh, look, 348 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:23.079 I found this hole. Why don't you fucking put me 349 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.920 down there? Let me just go in there. They didn't 350 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:30.640 even have flashlights. They the only source of light they 351 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.240 had was the little light on the top of their spacesuit. 352 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:36.920 They didn't even have fucking flashlights. Bro, I would go 353 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.079 nowhere and it wasn't even daylight. They were like, oh, 354 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.599 let's wait till dawn. Let's wait till the light comes in. 355 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:48.119 They're like, let's go, don's in twenty minutes, and I'm like, 356 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:55.279 what is going on? But they find this like skeleton thing. 357 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.359 It doesn't look like the alien that we see later 358 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:02.400 in the film. It looks like it's a different type 359 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:03.599 of skeleton. 360 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.480 Yeah, because they comment that it's like it's been burst, 361 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:09.960 like the chest burst thing has happened to it. Yeah, 362 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.200 so some other creature was just stated. 363 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:17.680 In right, they were hosts to the alien, and the 364 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:21.599 alien then laid all of those eggs waiting to be 365 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:23.920 activated by some dumb ass. 366 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:26.920 Yeah. So they just they explore way too much. 367 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:28.240 They're doing too much. 368 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:30.799 Well, they just got time to kill or something because 369 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:32.400 they got to wait for the ship that you're repaired. 370 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.400 I mean, honestly, as soon as I saw a skeleton, 371 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:37.240 I'd be like, you, guys, I think we're good. I 372 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.240 think we're good. It looks bad, bad, bad things have 373 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.960 happened here. I think we should just, you know, take 374 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.200 our pictures, say we didn't find anything, and let's go 375 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:50.559 let's go home. But Homeboy is like, nah, how do 376 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:52.839 you say it? You know, when you when you when 377 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.119 you use a rope and you and you take somebody 378 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:58.119 down the hole, you know you strap them in. What 379 00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.880 do you call it. How do you say that? Send 380 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.160 me down? Like, I don't know. How do you throw 381 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:04.519 me in that hole with a rope? I don't know. 382 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.759 I don't know if there's a technical term for that. 383 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:14.119 He went plunking basically, I don't know. Yeah, maybe repel 384 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:20.200 down this rope into this giant void. And then he's like, oh, 385 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:24.440 walking on this platform and he notices there's like this 386 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:28.000 mist and a bunch of egg like things, and he's like, oh, well, 387 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.160 let me look down there, and then he fucking falls 388 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.039 like a dumbass. And then he's like, oh, what is that? 389 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.200 And then he's like, it's moving and then it opens up. 390 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:38.799 And as soon as I saw a movement, I'd be like, 391 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.319 let's go. Honestly, as soon as I'd fall, I would 392 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:44.319 be freaking. Ou'd be like, oh my god, I'm in 393 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:49.799 the mist. Give me out of here. But this weird 394 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:53.720 like the egg opens and it looks like a fucking 395 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:58.319 chicken cutlet. It looks so nasty, it's got veins and shit, 396 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:03.079 and it's like it was so disgusting. It was so disgusting. 397 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:06.440 And then it fucking gets out and like attaches itself 398 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:10.079 to his face and it's like it's just it's really 399 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:14.720 like body horror for real body horror. I didn't know 400 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:17.000 it was had like a techno. I didn't know that 401 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.519