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Speaker 4: So many things to talk about today. We're gonna have
a couple of guests come in and talk about veterans.
But I don't know where to begin because there's been
so many things, Kevin, so many things going on. I
will say this, Laura's mug is being put to use.
She gave me a mug last night with the picture
that you took of me in your garagio, passed out
on the couch.
Speaker 5: Oh, your friendly amitting you were passed out.
Speaker 1: I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I took a nap. It was a nap. I rested
my eyes for like fifteen minutes and maybe less.
Speaker 5: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: There was snoring, probably was, but that doesn't mean anything.
It's still a nap. I snore when I nap. It happens.
Jesus Christ. Yes, I do it for the fans. I know, yeah,
I know, I understand.
Speaker 5: All three of them.
Speaker 4: Vinny Getty's, yes, viny Getty's is the only fan. He's
the only guy he calls non stop. I love him.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Well, might as well start with the wildfires and to
the point where, uh they're talking about moving the Rams
game to Arizona as a contingency, either saying, but I have.
Speaker 5: Friends in La and uh is it I heard it's
not because of the fires, but more probably the smoke
in the air quality.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is, exactly what. It's a fucking mess.
And it's not anywhere near the stadium. No, it's not.
But if it's almost like insulting to have this game
as people are like mile a couple miles away are
literally lost everything. You know, I was saying last night,
the one not that there's any bright spot to this,
because there's really not, but you had a little bit
of warning that if you could get some things to
take with you. My parents' house burned down to the
ground and they had you were, you know, people were
lending them clothes and doing all that. I'm not saying
that this isn't easy.
Speaker 5: You'm almost trying to get shit out too. Wasn't she
didn't you get dell her from the card?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, and yeah she was.
Speaker 5: And and that's why I get Belly's macaroniard from nineteen
sixty three.
Speaker 4: This is nineteen sixty three. This is where my point is.
I go, that's the stuff that can never be most
of your stuff. Most of your stuff, even if it's
like a special china pattern. It may not be the
one you inherited from Grandma. But maybe you can find
it again, you know what I'm saying. And he and
he got the memory live. It's the stuff that's irreplaceable.
It's the pictures, it's the you know, the kid's macaroni art.
As silly as that sounds, it comes down, it gets
hung on the tree once a year. We just had
it up there and now it's gone forever. And that
that to me, is terrible. How this fire started, I
don't know. I I talked to this.
Speaker 5: It's always a campfire or a well, a cigarette flicked
out the window.
Speaker 4: Somebody.
Speaker 5: It's always something somebody. They always said, they always figure
out who it is too. But then you never hear
of a trial or anything. Henry Winkler says it's arson.
The fire department and is saying it absolutely is not arson.
Speaker 4: But man, we are so divided in this country.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was a spark when the Fons hit the
jukebox with his elbow.
Speaker 4: Well, so then Jamison's telling me that it was two kids,
like with a bottle of hairspray and a lighter or something.
Maybe I don't I haven't heard that. All I know
is that I did call from into mine who lives
in LA. They said that it's a it's a mess,
but they're okay.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Some houses are standing, some are not. Why some stay?
I don't know. I'm not a fireman. I I you
talked to them.
Speaker 5: I just saw the conspiracy that all these houses are
burnt to the ground and ash, but the trees are
still sitting there with with leaves on them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it happens, and sometimes.
Speaker 5: Fires give a fuck. It just goes where it wants.
Speaker 4: It goes, and it pops over and hot ember flies hits.
Speaker 5: The air and that goes four houses down.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and then that that house is on fire and
they've been watching.
Speaker 5: You see the video. There was one I saw yesterday
there was a guy, a couple of guys in their
house and there was no way for that. That didn't
it was presented as there was no way for them
to get out. I'm assuming they probably could or it
was cgat or whatever, but you could see all the
flames around their house. Oh, you're just stuck in their
house trying to figure out what they're gonna do. And
I'm like, if I'm really in this situation and my
so my fucking videotaping, I don't know my memory.
Speaker 4: Somebody else told me said the same thing to me
Danny earlier today, goes, I don't know that I would
film it. I don't know it would be I'd.
Speaker 5: Be filming the shit in my house real quick, just
so I have it for the insurance company.
Speaker 4: But I would do too, And a lot of times
the insurance company get eighty cents on the dollar. Then
there's people saying that just in November or October November
along the Palisades, they.
Speaker 5: Stayed arm dropped all the fire insurance.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 5: That's one thing they tell you too, is people don't
do it. And had Stephanie sat here and told us.
He goes, make sure you go through your house item
by item and video take a video of just everything,
so if something does happen, you have proof that you
had that money on the wall or you had that gift.
Speaker 6: Rr.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because my father when they lost everything, went through
item by item by item. I mean he listed it
all and I don't know how they took it from him,
but I mean he went through and you were getting
eighty cents on the dollar. Most of the stuff, I
think because it's used exactly yep. So it was bicycles,
so it was they'll replace, but you're not going to
get it for the same value. And what a giant
pain in the ass that is, you know, so all
that stuff with the fire, but then there's the the
other side of it that that that's kind of ugly.
So I go to the New York Posts and they
have this thing that David Muir from ABC News was
reporting on the fire people and he had on he
had on, uh a fire jacket, like a fireman's jacket,
but it had the mb ABC logo on there. Now
I'm sure that he didn't do that. I think that's
standard issue if you meet people from local news they'll
have the local. They have all kinds of jackets right
for that. This is a fire jacket because he's going
to be standing out there, so they're saying he's playing fireman.
But when he turned there was a clothes pin sensing
the jacket. Okay, so it was for him, it may
have been, but the whole thing was he's a narcissist.
And it was people like Megan Kelly going, what a narcissist?
This is the So the guys out there reporting on
the fire and I when I saw this, and I
didn't see anybody's response to it yet, but then I
got a whole volume, yes, hours later. But when I
first saw it, I go, well, when you do TV news,
a lot of times they'll tell you to sit on
the tail of your jacket so it pulls it tight
against your shoulders. It's just a needer look for TV.
There's no way if you look at this that David
Muir put a clothespin on the back a producer did.
He probably can't reach there. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Like they're running around, probably do makeup and all. Whatever
it is. It's TV. It's a different thing. Who gives
a fuck. But they're saying he wants to show his
felt body, and I'm going, I'm not sure about.
Speaker 5: That because all these talking heads have all their makeup
yea for their podcast or their lives or their TV show.
It was driving me crazy and I'm like, why try
we do it with no makeup?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 5: Baby?
Speaker 4: Why are they coming so hard at this guy? And
I because it made no sense to me. I could
give a shit if his jacket said I'm not looking
at his body, I'm looking at the trump huh because
he doesn't like that? Okay, Well that I wasn't making
that connection at the time. So I'm seeing this, I go, wow,
that's it's strange. And I thought one other reason to
since the jacket is they had which helped fan the
flames of this fire. One hundred mile an hour winds. Okay,
nobody's fault for a hundred miles. Who do you blame
for ae hundred mile an hour wins?
Speaker 7: God?
Speaker 4: Okay? Other than that, I don't know who to blame.
So he's if you have that big fire jacket and
it's flappy and you're trying to report and it's making
noise on the microphone, it's added noise and already a
noisy environment, so to sense the jacket made sense to me.
That was what my thought was. Everybody else is saying,
I mean narcissist, asshole. Meg and Kelly and a friend
of ours was like, did you see? I was like,
oh my god, you gotta be kidding me, because who
gives a shit. But there's people who are homeless that
the lives are pretty much altered. You know, you know,
where are you going? Man?
Speaker 5: That's like where you go saying Jim Cantore is a
narcissists are wearing fucking fishing boots when he's reporting on
a hurricane. It's got eight feet of fucking water. It's just, oh,
he just gotta keep it well.
Speaker 4: This was because he sensed the jacket. They said it
was to show off his felt frame. I don't know
that it was shown. I really thought it was to
keep it from flapping around and maybe to make him
look neater on TV.
Speaker 5: I don't fucking know.
Speaker 4: I would have never entered my head, It would have
never entered anybody's head had he not turned. And then
somebody instantly sees it. We're looking at anything to jump on.
Where I missed the eighties so much. Let me tell
you something we are so nobody gave a shit in
the eighties. Let me tell you how divided we are. Okay,
So there's one thing. And then I realized that they
said he did not fact a Kamala when he hosted
the debate, but he kept fact checking Trump. That that's
what was read there. I don't know if that's true. Maybe, Okay,
then I go, let me see what these other what's
being said on each side of the aisle. Fox News
did a whole thing breaking down President Jimmy Carter's state funeral. Okay,
so you had all this presidents okay, and Obama sat
next to Trump, and Obama and Trump were talking like
having a full on converce.
Speaker 5: That was the other video I saw. It was the
kamalisit in the front and.
Speaker 4: Kamala sitting in I don't know if she was. At
one point they said she turned around. We're going to
bring in a body a body language like why are
we looking to stir shiit up? You had two guys
on either side of the aisle, politically Republican Democrat sat
next to each other and had a long and what
looked like a friendly conversation. What the fuck are you
gonna do? You were in a church, you're at a
state funeral. You're gonna turn around and start going, hey.
Speaker 5: Man, how come Kamala got better seats than the.
Speaker 4: Proubles because she's the current office and there has beans.
Speaker 5: I don't know Trumo, he should have been any altar.
Speaker 4: No, but do you understand what I'm saying? Like we're
looking for shit, We're looking for things.
Speaker 5: That's why I I I'm starting to believe that.
Speaker 4: If we had a war here, all that shit would end.
Since we don't we look for wars. We look we
we create wars, will create a right left war.
Speaker 5: Well remember like the three or four months after nine
to eleven, it was everybody loved America, everything was great,
and then it just went right back to shiite.
Speaker 4: You're right, I have no idea. It just it kind
of bothered me on all fronts because I go, the
bottom line is there's a fire. Who's fault is it?
I don't know, Like I said last night on the podcast,
and Kevin did a little research with somebody he knows
who was in a local fire department. I don't know
what seventeen point six million being cut from the LA
Fire budget means it could be online training stuff, it
could be anything.
Speaker 5: We like my buddy said, their budget is about eight
hundred and thirty six million dollars for the year. Yeah,
so seventeen point five is a drop in the bucket
on that.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know it just it.
Speaker 5: Equates to the Fairport Fire Department going away in Pittsford
taking over, taking holding their calls, right, and that would
make a little bit of heead, but it was.
Speaker 4: It was. It's just amazing how a fire where people's
lives are altered, kicking and I get it, and it's political.
I will say this nineteen seventy three. I said it
last night. And here's why I said it. Fifty one
years ago, I was in LA I was two years old.
My uncle lived in Los Angeles along a canyon. It
was a fire coming down. They went out with garden hoses.
Sounds silly, but there was somebody who died. Somebody had
died was still holding a garden hose out in law.
So they were wedding down the land. The fire was
contained before it ever got that far up the canyon. However,
I mean, the thing is, it's been fifty one years,
you would think there would be some kind of city
wide Hey man, this is an annual problem or a
semi annual problem we're having, or a couple times a
year that we're having in terms of fires, that you
would have the reservoirs ready, you would have fire train.
I don't know. I don't know what you do. It's
crazy to me because it's almost like you can't predict
which way the wind's gonna go.
Speaker 5: It's also tough to have a reservoir when you don't
have rain.
Speaker 4: Well. I think they have some full ones now because
it's been a fairly wet fall for them. They had
a lot of rain. But you're right, and so I
don't know, but it is kind of weird. After fifty years,
it's pretty much the same problem. That's half a century,
and you would think, with the technology and things, could
we figure it out. I don't know. I don't know
that it's a political thing. I don't know anybody on
either side wants to lose their home. I don't know
that would be my thing. I'll tell you this though
I didn't. I did do a little research because you know,
this is the time of year where people start putting
space heaters in places, and one of the things that
could potentially start a fire, probably not if you have
a good uh circuit system in your house, but it'll
blow a circuit or blow a fuse for you.
Speaker 5: That's all the time of the graadge for me is Oh,
it does when we're out there, like when we kind
of close the graduate but we usually do like a
neighborhood Thanksgiving. Yeah, so we it usually it's it's chili
out there, but we'll leave the we'll close the gradite door.
We'll put a couple of spacers out there and we
get two or three out there, yeah, just to keep
it warming up. So we could sit out there and
inevitably one of them will trip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because because they're more power than what's available on
that cord or extension cord. If you're going right to
the wall, you should be fine. But sometimes even in
your garage, if you're gonna have one on the other side,
you don't have a plug there. It's your door that
lifts up and down normally, so if you put one,
it's going to be on an extension cord and they're
not powerful enough. And that's where a lot of people
because you'll see how many fires have we had around
here that you've heard, like, hey, there was a six
alarm or three line. I don't know what the alarms are,
but whatever, it was a terrible fire. And it's usually
because of this. So if you have things like if
you got a gift of an air fire plug it
directly in, don't put it to a extension cord because
it'll either keep blowing the fuse for you or it's
gonna potentially start a fire. That's it. There's your PSA
for t that's.
Speaker 5: Gonna be one of your new go to phrases for
your next coaster. I've done some research, you say that
a lot.
Speaker 4: I didn't no idea that well, I did some research. Yeah,
avoid plugging in the extension cords because the thing is
it takes too much. Yeah, A fourteen twelve gage extension
cords are some of the most common extension cords sold,
with fourteen gauge extension cord being able to handle roughly.
Speaker 5: Look, which is why I gotta talk to my guy.
I gotta talk to my guy. I gotta talk to
my guy Mac. I need to get some spend four
years since we've been in the basement working, and we're
running off of a bunch of extension cords into a
couple of outlets. So work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're new, but you're not doing a heater
so no, but you're running computers anything with a heating element.
Though you're right, you know it's those things too, but
anything with a heating element could really eventually short out
or cause you a fire. Saying you don't want to
be in that situation at all. And here's the thing
that I keep saying, and I'm sorry to repeat myself,
but the difference in LA like people have a fire,
it's that house usually, right, this is an entire neighborhood
and everybody's homeless now, and everybody is looking to go
somewhere do something. I'm like, how do you even find space?
And you know in a vacant hotel room? You going
to San Francisco, You've got to be leaving the city completely.
Speaker 5: Do you want a baby? I lost my house. Let's
go to the Dokey Show. Maybe I'll be the pride
this time.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe?
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: An old friend if many years ago on the radio
was a guy named Simon the Grump. He would call
up and he would grump about things he was an
older cat and uh he had a friend named Sarge
Mitchell and Sarge was in Afghanistan, I believe, and we
could get the story from him. I think might have
been hit and as a result lost a testicle. I
know that sounds ridiculous, but I think there was a
number a testicle. I think, Yes, I need two arms.
I like, I'm used to two arms.
Speaker 5: I'm used to two balls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I could get a fake one in there.
I don't want to. Yeah, I can get a newticle
and no one would know, you know what I'm saying.
And no one's going to see it. I'm not saying that.
No one's going to see the ball itself to know
it's fake. They're going to see it behind in the pouch.
Who knows if it's a marble or if it's real.
You know what I'm saying. Ball's extra hard. But I
used to call him a nutty guy. But they have
something with veterans that they are working on and wanted
to come in here and talk about. So we will
get to that and another research Kevin's fault. But this one,
the phrase shitting your brains out not exactly accurate. We'll
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Speaker 4: Back home and drown my troubles away.
Speaker 5: It's a damn.
Speaker 4: Shame what the world's gotten too for people like me,
people like you. Wish I could just wake up and
not be true, but it is.
Speaker 1: Oh, it is living in the new.
Speaker 5: World with the whole So the Richmond North or Richmond
Lord knows it all. Just want to have total control.
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and then don't thank.
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it's taxing on him.
Speaker 4: I think people some people really feel that way these days.
So there's so many of the studio I haven't seen
in a number of years, and through the podcast were reconnected.
But he was known as Simon Doug Grumpy and what
were you grumping? About you were always grump get great
on him? There, you got to lean in there, there,
you should come closer to me. Okay, well you can't.
You can pull it closer, give it.
Speaker 3: The thing weighs like seven hundred pounds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Yes, So, well, you were grumping
back then about all kinds of things.
Speaker 6: Anything that I saw that pissed me off, I grumped.
I put it on social media, and of course I
used the.
Speaker 7: Radio station back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you see, and amazingly people listened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh they were screwed.
Speaker 3: Now, I knew I was getting some attention.
Speaker 4: Right, and I never stopped, never stopped after that. What
have you been grumping about lately?
Speaker 6: Well, to beg honest with you, I am involved with
the young lady that is developmentally disabled in the state.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah you were. You were advocating for this person
for a long time.
Speaker 6: It's been two years now, and I don't have the
contacts that I used to have. I mean, I'm seventy
years old now I've been Most of those guys are
happily rich and walked away. I'm still poor and still
doing what I do. But yeah, heysay's the only active
advocacy case that I'm currently doing. Other than that, I mean,
I'm still involved with our New American communities. I had
a young man call me last night and tell me
he's becoming a citizen.
Speaker 7: And on the twentieth on Ration Day.
Speaker 6: And you know, it's stuff that I've been involved in,
cultures that I've been involved in throughout the course of
my lifetime.
Speaker 3: I use my platforms to say what I feel.
Speaker 4: Damn did you ever?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I did, and occasionally I still do. Now they know
who I am. I mean, I didn't come out as
Vic Siminetti.
Speaker 4: No, he came out of Simon de grump.
Speaker 6: I came out of Simon de grump. I came out
of the pissed off guy that grew up in the city.
And I didn't like the ship I was seeing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I put it out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh and it did some good for people. Yeah, yes,
and then you connected with guys like Serge Mitchell. That's right.
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, Sarge found me.
Speaker 4: How's that.
Speaker 3: I really don't remember how.
Speaker 7: He found me.
Speaker 1: He was and and actually it was it was because
of the old so too. Something told me, I said,
there's I heard of some grump I remember some some
old guy and nobody knew there was somebody he knew.
He knew everything, but nobody knew who he was, and
he would grump and he would just tell facts and
people would hate him. And I think I seen him
still do viewing something, and I said, you know what,
I need some help because in the veteran community, there's
some things going on and I don't know how to
present these things that are being presented to me.
Speaker 4: Where do we meet you, like twenty ten?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it was right, It was out.
Speaker 4: There two thousand and myself or you t oh, yeah, somewhere.
Speaker 3: I can't remember yesterday.
Speaker 1: I can't remember when exactly it was because it was
during a rough time where I was going through a
lot of surgeries. Yeah yeah, and it was my first
time being able to come home.
Speaker 4: And the military, that's right, didn't we talk to you
in the hospital?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the military wouldn't have proved me to come home.
And I found that if I made, you know, if
the community, you know, not made the community, but if
the community helped me, wanted me, supported me to come
back to my family, they couldn't say no. So that's
what the community did, and I got to come home.
And I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: So you were an act part of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I was. I guess. I don't know when
you're still holding them to it. Yeah, I am. But
let me ask you. You were in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iraq, okay,
and hit by what happened over.
Speaker 1: There, it's the percussion. So ultimately what had happened was
when we were talking about it back in the day,
was I ended up losing my left testicle?
Speaker 4: No, I know that, but now that's that's the crux
of it.
Speaker 6: Okay, were you.
Speaker 1: No, from just from a blast and a percussion blast,
that's all it was. But it was all in turn,
like nobody knew what was going on. Nobody knew anything
was ruptured. Nobody knew anything was happening. I didn't even
know either until you start things start happening where you know,
your legs starts getting warm and you know, use the
European blood. Those kind of things happened.
Speaker 4: So your testicle ruptured. Yeah, as part of the vibration
of this.
Speaker 1: From the yeah, right, absolutely, from.
Speaker 4: The vibration, just that that vibrations.
Speaker 1: Scrub over here like it's like a percussion, it's like
going it's.
Speaker 4: Yes, inside you.
Speaker 3: And you don't.
Speaker 7: But you don't see anything, see.
Speaker 4: Anything right, and you're wondering what happened? So that is
that a specific type of weapon that does that?
Speaker 1: I mean, just just like.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. If I went to a
Motley Cruise show and stood too close to the air,
could I rupture a ball?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that it can happen. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4: I think so. When you go to these concerts, fell.
Speaker 3: For those concerts, you know that was the best either.
Speaker 1: That's the best part talking about And that's why I
tell a lot of better it's talking to find one.
I know, nothing is funny in life. Nothing is funny.
But if you find one one thing that you can
like with the boys, say, you know that's it's a
lot of things happened to me. But I always tell
the story about my nuts, you.
Speaker 4: Know, the one we called him, one nutty guy, such
a ball to be around.
Speaker 1: And then I was talking to you guys when I
when I actually lost the first testicle because I told
the doctor, I said, this is not mine, this is
not for me. I do not have you see me.
I said, this is not for me, this is for me.
Speaker 5: It's too big, and they tried to give you a
brother to yeah.
Speaker 1: It no, it was. It came out and I actually
gave it back to that's when I was talking to
you guys, and I said, hey, I'm going to get
the new one now, guys. And it fills me up.
It fills it right.
Speaker 4: But they had they did a number of surgeries.
Speaker 1: I'm actually going for number fifty one here.
Speaker 4: Why what is the surgery on?
Speaker 1: Sorry, man, this one is supposed to be life changing. Actually,
I'm kind of scared it's going to be the biggest
one yet. But I'm very very happy to get it done.
So they found out I have a growth in my
spinal column that is pushing a double scoliosis in my spine.
It's pushing the top of my spine into you have
that little circle part you know where your skull comes
down your opening. Well, mine is going up and into it.
And they said it's been debilitating me for about five
six years or estimating. So they said that this is
something that needs to happen.
Speaker 4: Why as a result of I.
Speaker 1: Haven't looked too much in it, but it seems like this,
this arthritic growth can come from injuries.
Speaker 4: Blown up inside well that's what I'm wondering. I'm being
serious injuries.
Speaker 1: They said, my dad was looking some things up, and
you know, back injuries, back surgeries. It could develop someone
on the spinal column. I guess that's a normal something
that happens, and a lot of veterans, I guess case
study shows that they've had it. They've lived a great
life afterwards.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: But you you this ain't is going up into my
it's pushing my spine up into my skull. And that's
the part.
Speaker 4: So that could be from the blast.
Speaker 1: Still like, no, I mean no, this I think is
all from this arthritic growth. I mean this is that
I've never I never had this, bef. There's no scans
or anything that showed this at all. So this is
not this is something I developed since I've been home,
since surgeries and all that, all right, but this this
is fifty one. Yeah, just random things here and there.
And they're trying to say it. But they're trying to
say now part of the I do too, I'm with you,
eye Well they're trying. They're they're trying to tell me
that it's when they're spinal cord or you know, whatever
is push it's almost playing piano in there. So like
I've had such bad kidney stones where I'm like giving birth.
I have no markers in my body for it, no one,
you know, for like gout, calcium build up, like there's
everything I've happened, and and and victno do everything that
I've happened. They've always told me. They said, we don't
know why does this happened, And there's no reason for this, X,
Y and Z. We've done tests for this and there's
nothing for it. So they're thinking that this has just
been playing piano on the brain, you know what I mean,
just throwing signals around because of the stuff doesn't make
any sense what has been happened. I'm thirty six. The
stuff I've had to go through, little things going going septic, things,
reversing my bile duct reverse the you know what I
mean last year, two years ago, Yeah, last year, I
think it was.
Speaker 4: It reversed so it was going back up eight to your.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, oh, it was horrible, Yeah it was.
It was some of the worst stuffs. And then I
got fake stuff put in that side, and you know,
it took out this and did that, and it was
I never never ended spinal cord stimulator, you know what
I mean, all that stuff that I had done. It's
just I've been through the through the VA system so
much much. It's like, man, I just.
Speaker 4: Well it sounds like a lot of this is I
think I'll be a derivative.
Speaker 3: I admit that, and they don't know what to do
about it.
Speaker 6: I mean the rest of his life, this kid's going
to have these problems every little piece that was inside.
Speaker 7: Of him boom.
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking I can't even fetom that.
Speaker 1: I do have the top neurosurgeon here in our area
that did take the case. The VA was very surprised
that when I said the doctor's name, that that they
you know, that called me the neuro they're not the neurologists. Sorry,
he was like are you sure? I said, oh no,
and she said, well that's the head of neurology, and
that's amazing that he's taking the case. Then I looked
it up and I said, well he only does really babies,
you know, kids, stuff like that. It's very intricate. I'm like,
oh boy, that now I can look at it one
of two ways. Thanking he's he sas a vet. He
wants to take care of him, or it's so intricate,
the big guy's got to do it. But either way,
I feel like I'm in good.
Speaker 4: Let's go with that one.
Speaker 1: I am blessed in that manner because if this is
gonna help me, I think, if this is going to
change my life is what they're trying. They're telling me
that this is they've never seen somebody able, body like
somebody like me who can walk around golf try to
do all these things with what I have going on.
Speaker 4: Okay, so they so they go, if we don't take
it out, you're going to turn into Simon.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: What are you gonna tell me? Simon trained?
Speaker 3: I trained him, well, I did. I'm proud of him.
Speaker 7: I am. I gave him a plateform.
Speaker 4: How long have you had that Steelers jacket?
Speaker 3: Probably older than Jackson?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think so. Yeah. Me and Joe Green,
I love that you. I forgot you were a Steelers
fan until you walked in here.
Speaker 6: I was gonna wear my Trump hat. Yeah, it seems
I was wearing my Steelers jacket. I didn't want to
go out with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, golf Steeler, that's fine.
Speaker 6: I walked into a little bar here just before we
came here just to get that little shot of guinness
into me. And uh, they were looking at me like
I was a freaking alien.
Speaker 4: Because you had Steelers gear on. Well, yeah, it's from
the west side.
Speaker 5: I get the same look.
Speaker 3: I get the same there's no other side.
Speaker 5: Every time I go into up Connors they give me.
Speaker 6: Then, if Dave Keane didn't tell me there was an
each side, I'd never know when I lived here all
my life.
Speaker 1: That's the truth.
Speaker 4: So serge, what are we What are we talking about?
Since you were you know, what are you doing today? What? What?
What's your job?
Speaker 1: So now I'm just I'm I graduated from Fort Grump
University and now I just I'm just advocating for the vets.
I just realized that we need to have a voice.
And I believe that the veterans over the years have
have been trusted. Uh and you know, they've given me
their trust and they they've given me.
Speaker 4: When you say advocate for them, what what's not happening?
What do we we don't know as civilians with the
people who went and served in places like Afghanistan for
a long time, people who have served in Iraq.
Speaker 1: I think the first thing is comes to care here locally,
we got a little bit of an issue with the
VA as far as care. We're having to do our
own care management, you know, as far as when we
go to the primary care. We're not getting the proper
follow ups that we need to because they're so overloaded
and a lot of those at the VA at our
VA system here. So and at the same time, I
have somebody in my family, my stepsister, that is going
through trying to get a job at the VA. She's
going through USA jobs, couldn't find anything, couldn't get any
response back. So she went there old school style with
you know, some cookies and in the next day with something,
and then all of a sudden she's getting a call back,
she's getting an interview, she's you know, getting help. And
she's been in the industry for a while. She just
wants to help out, doesn't want to retire. We have
all these you know, new trainees in the medical field
here that need a job when they get out. We
need to find how we can get them directly into
our VA system because we're losing them to an urgent
Karen Binghamton or something that can get them a job
immediately and Uh, it's just not fair to us because
unlike the other insurance companies we have to go through
you know, most of us have to go through the
VA or pay out a pocket and we can't just
go find another doctor. You know, we have our primary care.
You know, we can get referred out community care. But
I think they're just so overloaded that it's not fair.
Speaker 4: So hot So when you say advocate, what what can
civilians do to help that?
Speaker 1: So as far as as far well, yeah, as.
Speaker 4: Far as I'll pay, I'll throw a couple of dollars
in the ego.
Speaker 1: GROM as far as far as that's concerned.
Speaker 3: You know, the first time I got paid for it, that's.
Speaker 4: Just believing the veteran right.
Speaker 1: We just we just are starting to get together this
year and start to a little coalition to try to
get the trust back in the community, in the hands
of the veterans, because I believe that if the community,
the community doesn't have too many people to trust. Nowadays,
there's not a lot of things that are positive where
they can believe, you know, say Democrat or Republican. You know,
there's so many groups out there, but there's one thing
that true Americans can trust and believe in. And that's
us veterans to whether it's run for office, whether it's
tell them what veteran organizations, you know, do the best
for us and what things that we need? You know,
where where can them tax dollars, them donation dollars? Where
else should it go besides the big organizations that have
so much marketing that of course they're going to get
the most money. But are they doing the most for
the veterans and you know, the boots on ground style veterans.
They shouldn't be telling us what to do with you know,
million dollars that come in. You know, how about a
knitting class and a rowing in this? But did you
ask anybody, are you guys just doing this because your
buddy you know, has a knitting you know, supply store,
and you're just giving them, you know, the money. You know,
It's like, hang on a second, we're not being do
they do with the money?
Speaker 4: Do they say things like PTSD knitting could help? And
I and I only say, and here's what I'm thinking
they're saying. First of all, not many men are gonna
want to knit.
Speaker 1: I don't believe a lot of females wanting it nowadays.
Speaker 4: Either Okay, shot, that may have been sexist of me,
you would, absolutely, I know, but these guys do and
uh oh well no, But I'm just wondering if they
thought it was a therapeutic thing. And I'm with you,
I'd rather see something that's gonna be more mass appeal.
I think knitting almost comes with a visceral reaction to it, like, well.
Speaker 1: I think we just we just want to see it
at the table. You know, we're I think we're to
the point now that we want to change it to
the point where we have a seat at the table.
We we want to be represented as actual boots on
ground veterans. Okay, and we're not to have well we're
unless you're in the know. Yeah, you're not. Not unless
you're in the know, unless you go. I mean, there's
only so many open dialogue groups that we have that
aren't politicized or people feel some type of way because
of the organizations that are holding it. If that makes sense,
you know, the people aren't going to be outspoken and
do it. That's why I was looking into finding out
how I can do have my own platform, you know,
as combat news podcasts or something, because a lot of
the veterans come to me, and if I can just
inspire more veterans to speak up about the same issues
that they're coming to me about that I speak up about.
Speaker 4: Give me, give me an issue that they're coming to
you about. Just one that because and the reason I
asked that is, if I'm listening or I'm watching this,
I don't and I'm and I don't have a military
member in my family, but I certainly would support the military,
and I'm all, you know, I want everything to be
the best for them. What is an issue that we're
not aware of? Because what happens is we see somebody
in uniform. And it's not uncommon that if you walked
in in uniform and you went to a coffee shop
that somebody ahead of you pays for your coffee. Nice.
It's a nice thing, and you know, no big deal.
But it's the guy who no longer wears the uniform
but still has all the effects of everything that went
on while he was in the uniform. Yeah, and we
don't know because he walks among us and we don't know.
And we're not in that system, right. Anybody, you bring
up healthcare, like I know somebody who just went to
a doctor the other day, gets there and is told
we no longer take this insurance. They just got a
new insurance company and the appointment was made six months
ago to get into this doctor, right, because that's how
long the waiting is for some specialists and things. And
then you find out that your insurance isn't taken, and
what do you do and what do you do right?
And so that that becomes that's a relatable thing, I
think for a lot of people. But what are the
issues that they're confronted with most?
Speaker 1: I think besides the besides health, I think it's it's
them trying to get the help when they need, when
they fall on hard times. I think I'm hearing a
lot of that. You know, when a lot of veterans there,
they go through the drug addiction, alcohol addiction, back and forth.
You know, they're good for a little bit, they get help,
but after a while, they end up getting booted. They
end up getting kicked out, They end up being because
of them relapsing or whatnot, just thrown to the curb.
When we have we have enough room, we were not
supposed to we should, you know, leave no man behind.
There's a lot of veterans that are coming forth to
me now that want to speak up about them being
you know, booted out of organizations or being told that
you know, they can only get help on certain days
at certain times. And the person running that you know,
running you know to get the help is actually a civilian.
It's not even a veteran that's there to help them.
So those are the kind of things that we we
need to get back to going to the small organizations.
We have small organizations around here that we can get
help immediately. We can get help. I mean there's compeer Core,
there's you know us that at Combat News that you know,
the Rochester, you know veterans. We anytime we have an issue.
We we've had people who don't have Christmas gifts Thanksgiving,
you know, uh Simon knows about it.
Speaker 6: Can I jump in on me one it was I
think two years ago or Serge sent me a picture
of what the.
Speaker 3: VOC had in their food pantry. It was around thanksgimming.
It was appalled.
Speaker 6: A woman went in to get some food and a
service member went in to get some food and they
offered her a bag.
Speaker 4: Of rice.
Speaker 7: Beans.
Speaker 4: That's all they that.
Speaker 3: I went freaking ballistic.
Speaker 4: Was he nobody knows, right because.
Speaker 1: They knew.
Speaker 3: The VOC found out, Yes, but because I went bonkers.
Speaker 4: Well good, I mean that's good. But but they think
about food pantries and things that we give and churches
give and you can go to the church and all that,
but you're not thinking of the VOC. So I think
probably what you're saying is trying to make that stuff
top of mind.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, we need to connect. And I think
that the organizations, the big organizations like the VOC, like
you know, uh, you know, any any organization, you know,
especially I think especially the VOC, a lot of people have,
you know, a love hate relationship. I think it's one
of the best things that can be here in Monroe County.
But I mean it's absolutely But I believe that a
lot of veterans feel that they don't have a voice,
and they feel that that if we all connected as
one and you know, as having a voice, that we
can we can be an example for all the state,
all the all the United States of how how veterans,
how a county can take care of the veterans, and
they can be started right at the top because we
have the great county that supports us. We have the
great community that supports us. After that is the is
the Veterans Outreach Center, which has all the programs, all
the you know, works and networking and marketing. And then
you get all the other little organizations and we all
everybody has their own NIS, just like when we're in
the military. But I feel that it gets too much
of the who who needs the money or I can
get the money for these programs. We can do this
here when the same program for one place might not
work for the other. And and we need to come
to you know, come to a common you know, common
ground here and get at the same get on the
same page, because what's going to happen is just ultimately
hurts the veterans and their families. And when you start
having veterans give up, that's bad, you know. So I
want to start inspiring veterans to get to speak up,
you know, start start writing, you know, to the two
programs that are are you feel aren't doing good for
you or that could do better, Or start writing to
your your legislation. Start running for office, you know, school board,
town board, because that's the only way that we can
start uniting. That's that's the only way. And we really
need to do that because if not, it's it's just
going to be a battle. It's almost like the community.
You know, the community has a lot of you know.
Speaker 4: You use it social media for stuff too, to.
Speaker 1: Get those get a lot. So I tried, why do
you get.
Speaker 4: Banned because you're just hanging out with you? Were you
assigning to grump University?
Speaker 3: Grump brother, say it right or don't say it.
Speaker 1: For getting I get in a little bit of a
trouble just because I'm very passionate and I might come
off the wrong way. A lot of people you don't
have a love hate relationship with me, including a lot
of organizations and politicians.
Speaker 3: But I told him he wouldn't make any friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told him.
Speaker 4: But listen, let me tell you. There's a class they did,
didn't They didn't teach you at Fort Grump. I doubt it. No, No,
I think there's a class. And it's a hard one
to learn. It's a hard one to learn. But that
the saying always goes you attract more flies with honey
than vinegar. You just got to find a better way
to say it. I always seriously think about, like if
you're talking to your significant other, right, I.
Speaker 3: Had one for twenty eight years.
Speaker 7: Let's not go there.
Speaker 1: I know about you.
Speaker 4: I can't even believe it lasted that long. Law Yeah no,
But the my point is like there used to be
the commercial right that it was was for some beer,
and it was Hey, I'm I'm flying in at midnight,
don't be pick me up and don't be late. Or
you could say, how about a midnight rendezvous at the airport.
I'll be wearing something slinky and black, gonna make me
well okay, But the same thing in two different ways.
One one I go, hey, I'm there. The other I'm like,
fuck you do you know what I'm saying. That's all
I'm saying, is like it sucks because you got it play.
Unfortunately in life you've got to do the dance from time.
Speaker 1: With me with me. When I came home, I was
in such a dark place, Yeah I was. I was
coming at this originally with I'm going to expose as
much information, as much wrongdoings, as much money laundring as
I can.
Speaker 4: But then they want to just shut it.
Speaker 1: They take me out. Well, it did a wint eighty
and now everybody, as he knows, wines and dines me.
But I don't like being the only you know, being
have to be a pit bull and have these guys like, yeah,
love hate me. You know, I don't like that kind
of stuff. I want to rally the truth because I
just I'm so passionate about what I do and I
care about the veterans here so much that I want
to give them just a little bit of hope.
Speaker 4: Well, only the veterans, right, the guys can relate to
the stuff you've gone through. Right, You've seen things in
the discipline life, but beyond that put in your life
where all of a sudden you're walking along and something
goes off and your insides are rupturing, but you look
fine on the outside. Right, No one can relate to
what that's like, what that pain is like, what anything
is until they've unless they've done it right right, unless
they've not. And every war is different, every weapon is different,
But that's same. I would think it's the same mentality
of I'm here fighting for all our lives. You got
to think of you know, people who are on planes
that land it in the Hudson, Right, they get back
together as a reunion. Why because they had a shared
experience that was life altered, Right, see these you guys
said something that nobody can relate to. So I think
that that's really you're right, and no one knows what
you need other than you as a collective unity more
or less. And I believe it's hard.
Speaker 1: We have great we have great ways of helping the veterans,
but I believe that we're starting to lose some of
the best veterans and the best minded veterans we we
can because they're now looking for their to make their own,
their own organizations, you know, to try to compete with others,
and we need to all just come together, and all
they want is a voice at the table. I feel
almost like I'm a one of those guys when things bad,
things happen and they go and they you know, no, no, no,
like what like when somebody gets shot and then the
person comes over to that town and says, you know,
you should like crump that guy Crump. You know that
guy Crump.
Speaker 3: You know we got Crump Trump.
Speaker 1: That guy got shot or the people get shot. I'm
George Floyd, that guy.
Speaker 4: That yeah yeah, yeah, yah yah yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel sometimes that I get put into these positions
where I they get they're like enough, it's enough. And
they're you know, these veterans are just throwing so much
at me, and I feel that I can't do it
on my own. I have to start getting on podcasts,
getting on places like this to just say, hey, listen,
I'm trying to speak up. I'm starting to. You know,
you see stars doing it. You don't have to do
it to this extreme. You don't have to come there, right,
but just start speaking because I'm going to speak up.
Speaker 4: How how can people get a hold of you? Let's say,
somebody's I.
Speaker 1: Do I do run the only Rochester. It's called Rochester
and Why Veterans. It's a Facebook page and I bet
everybody there's questions to ask. So we have thousands so
members on there.
Speaker 4: Someone can send you a message.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, combat News. I'm I'm on Twitter at SARS
Mitchell eighty eight, Sgt. Mitchell eighty eight. Uh and yeah, yeah,
you can always find combat News is also a Combat
News and Why at gmail dot com is my email
address to you?
Speaker 3: Forgot to send Bill and Florida the link for this show.
I hope he's got it.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Belt, all right, Well we'll take a moment. We'll
come back talk to me a little bit. About some
of the things like what you saw over what you
were in Iraq, as.
Speaker 1: Far as what like far as oh, some of the
crazy things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you talk about that stuff. We'll take a
break and then but if you can and you don't want.
Speaker 1: To, that's some things that will make you shake your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Just just to give people a perspective of
we see it on the news. That's a thirty second
clip at most right that we're seeing maybe three minute
stand up.
Speaker 3: He's seeing what does show you on the news?
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Speaker 3: I doubt that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's what I want. I want them to beat
the Ravens.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see him beat the.
Speaker 4: Ravens stew because that then the Bills can beat the Steelers,
and they wouldn't play the Steelers. They would say, we
are you would play the Steelers. It does get received.
God damn, I.
Speaker 6: Master Phil, I feel bad for you and everybody else
said hates my Steelers.
Speaker 4: I don't hate the Steelers. I'm really impressed as.
Speaker 3: A talking like you're a fan either.
Speaker 4: Well I'm not. I'm not a huge fan, Simon. I'm
just saying I'm about to give you a compliment. But
you know you go ahead and ship all over.
Speaker 7: What I do.
Speaker 4: Bill, I uh no, I I find it as an organization.
You've done it right. How many how many head coaches? Three?
How many head coaches for the Buffalo Bills was one
every three years.
Speaker 7: Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean I don't know of any other team either
that's had that type of a legacy and keeping your
coaches thick and thin.
Speaker 4: Now there was talk that they could possibly trade. Someone
may trade for Tomlin.
Speaker 7: It's up to Tomlin.
Speaker 4: You think if he left, how would you feel?
Speaker 6: I say, thanks, Mike, Yeah, appreciate what you've done to
super Bowls, right, yep. Appreciate what you've done for the team.
But in the last ten years or so, just playing
the final two minutes of every goddamn game just doesn't
work well.
Speaker 4: Something it is weird. Almost the same rap against Sean
McDermott in game management. Tight time or.
Speaker 7: You hate him?
Speaker 6: Right, it's one of the other Bill Either in any relationship,
especially leadership position, you're either loved or you're hated.
Speaker 3: But you're not going to all be loved all the time.
Speaker 1: It work Like for Aaron Rodgers, He's not loved all
the time. Poor guy.
Speaker 3: That's out of him coming to the Steelers.
Speaker 4: That's your buddy.
Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan.
Speaker 4: Did you watch Enigma on Netflix?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my buddy, they told me to watch.
Speaker 4: You need to watch that. You need to watch that.
I think it will just people's opinion about.
Speaker 1: It's just like messing around, losing left or not.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Unless you, I wouldn't be talking.
Speaker 1: Well what he Johnson's going. He's leaving, his brother's taking over.
So hopefully we'll bring Rex back, you know what I mean,
Let's get it. Let's all going.
Speaker 4: Rex interviewed. I don't he's the only guy that wants
somebody was interviewing. Oh no, that's Rabel Tomorrow Today, New
England Today Today. Yeah, and uh yeah, I've been waiting
to see who's going to land where the coaching carousel.
It's always kind of fun.
Speaker 1: Hey, Bill, have you ever heard of the War on
the War on Terror Memorial?
Speaker 4: We have here the War on Terror Memorial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's for it's for our era, my area.
It's over by the Vietnam Vetteran Memorial. But we have
a a big fundraiser coming up, and I was wondering
if I can let everybody know, yes, please do so.
Pleasure Lanes is putting it on February twenty third, and
they're still looking for donations. They can be dropped off
there for the raffle at Pleasure Lanes in Hilton. And
also they're still looking for some sponsors too. And that's
at the for the Monroe County War on Terror Memorial.
The board over there, Amy Amy Fowl there, she's she's
heading it and she's she's a great female veteran leader.
Here she is.
Speaker 3: There a phone number for contact.
Speaker 1: This is just directly. I think you can go on
the War on Terror Memorial web page they have or
on Facebook as well. Pleasure Lanes Bowling also hans it
on their page as well. How to do it, but
it's on February twenty third. I can send it to
you if you can, if you don't mind sending out.
But it's bowling for veterans, and you know it's it's
very big. It'll be very big help for us to
get some more people, some more donations, you know, for
the raffles. Even if you don't bowl and sign up
for that. I'm sure people last year they just came
for the raffles. But yeah, if anybody can help, want
to help, it'll it'll mean a lot because we were
work off straight. You know, donations fund you know it's funded,
I guess is how the war on.
Speaker 4: Tear is basically would include you correct, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, so.
Speaker 1: But these are for the one that the men and
women that have passed that passed there is what during
you know, during war time.
Speaker 4: Talk to me about being over in Iraq. You said
there were some wild and funny things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of wild
and crazy things that has happened. We once had had
a I don't know what they were doing actually there,
if it was Iraqi jail or they were just housing
guys there, but there was a little guy who stabbed
up the taxi driver. So they held them in, you know,
in their little jail cell. And the guy loves cigarettes,
love cigarettes, and I remember the Iraqi army guys used
to give them a cigarette and he used to beat
up other people that they had in the jail cell
till they were i mean stripped the clothes off, naked,
you know what I mean, and fold them up put
them in there. He spoke a little bit of broken English.
Loved being tased. Yeah he was. He was definitely, you know,
a fun guy. You know, when you're working with other armies,
they do a lot of different things that we don't do.
But you know, it's entertaining, you know what I mean,
it's dry over there, but other countries don't care. Those
kind of things are are are crazy? What they What
else do you guys want to know? I mean, see
with me, what happened with me is that I my
dad was communicating with a communications guy. He was a
Flower City communications on motorola. And you know, I love
to dibble dabble in communications.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I was a very very good commo guy. So when
you make the higher ups look good, you don't have
to do all those crazy details picking up cigarette butts
to and all that. I had air conditioning in my
trailer because I had the routers and networks in my trailers.
So they have to stay cold. You can't have them,
you know, in the heat, you know, and so I
wanted to stay with them and sleep with them. So
there was a lot of things. There's a lot of
things that that I benefited from in that in that manner,
but also on the other side of things, when it
comes to like going on missions or stuff like that,
you know, being a part of the personal security detachment,
you know, for the general stuff like you know, things
along those lines. Uh, those were just a little crazy.
But I guess me, with my joking, my joking morale
that I have, that's what I call it. Telling these
guys I didn't sign up for this. I scored high
on my asvabs, not to kick indoors, not to go
shooting people, not to we're sleeping here for the night
after we take something over. But I was such a
good como guy that I was with these these guys.
You know, it's pretty crazy, you know. I I loved
every minute of it. I wouldn't change it. I think
that if I, if I wasn't put on a pedestal
though I was, I I wouldn't have been here to talk.
I think that I would have been in a lot
more dangerous situations, you know. So I am blessed that
I made the higher ups look good. I got waivers
for a lot of my ranks. So the stuff that
I did see, it was quick. It was just fast.
But it wasn't often, you know what I mean. Like
I said, with my incident, it was it was it
was almost like a fluke. Nobody really, nobody was hurt.
It was it was a it's internal, it's all internal,
and UH for it to happen that way I felt
I was cheated. You wanted to get back in the game.
I wanted to get back in the game.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I mean I worked, I tried my dad, you know,
we did congressional inquiries with Louis Slaughter yeah and all that,
and then eventually they just were making me have surgeries
over you overseas and it just wasn't good. I developed
an infection at one time. I just sell that burst.
That cost way more problems than anything. And then I
got to Germany and then they're like, oh, after we
get you ready, you're gonna get you right back with
your unit. And we just thought. It was like, I
don't think so, you know, I said, let's get him back.
And they were going to send me to Waltz Reed
and my dad said, I don't think so. That's my
only son, you know. Uh So they sent me back
to Fort Hood area and I got to go to
some of the great doctors and stuff.
Speaker 4: But do you have private Okay, so now you just
said you're going to have your fifty first surgery.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, this hopefully is the last one.
Speaker 4: Well, but all this stuff started because you joined the army.
You ever get angry about that? I he upset me,
and he.
Speaker 1: Knew me before I had a kid. When I was sixteen,
I told my dad, you know, I said, listen, basically,
I did it. You know what I mean, it's me.
I did it. I dropped out, got my ged where
two jobs. I was working at Arby's up on Western
Road and working at Wegmans, and then the two job things.
My oldest brother had had a spot over on Joe
Anne Drive, and I used to live in an apartment
over there with him. And then it was just getting
too much, you know, doing all that stuff, and I said,
I'm going to do that army thing, you know, because
the two jobs is just not for me, you know,
So I just joined the army. So the way I
was as a knucklehead back in the day, you know,
growing up in the city. I grew up, you know,
behind Aquinas over there on Augustine Street, having a lot
of issues, you know, with school and authority. I think
it was one of the best things that can happen,
because I feel that now more than ever. You know,
when you grow up and you're saying, what's my purpose
in life? I could finally say, you know, when I
was you know, twenty six twenty seven. I found my purpose.
You know, when I got here after being injured, you
I learned so much about life, death, appreciation and helping
people that I finally found my purpose that I feel
like now I'm actually living.
Speaker 4: So again, like Army, you could look at it one way,
go with the fuckra surgery or That's what I try
to inspire.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of guys, you know, they've
told me, they said, you know, you are inspiring because
the stuff that you've gone through, you know, even just
in life, having a kid when I was sixteen, never
missing a child support payment. You know, I was there.
I tried to do my best. I never want him
to fail. So if I can do what they can too,
and I just want them to have that same mentality.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's just let's let's all get together. You know, we
were a company and a brigade before, so now we
build our company brigade back home. That's what we need
to do.
Speaker 4: Simon, did you meet Jamison?
Speaker 3: I can't believe that Jameson he was five.
Speaker 4: He was born in twenty ten, so he was even younger.
He might have been two. I think you're thinking of Jordan.
Speaker 6: Out No, because he was. He came to Mike the
dad's funeral.
Speaker 4: Dinny, No, I don't think the boys did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they smallest one did.
Speaker 4: All that said, yeah, and that's.
Speaker 3: I gave him either a chick lit or a piece
of candy.
Speaker 5: I remember it.
Speaker 3: I was shocked when he.
Speaker 4: Came into It's fourteen, now, Scot, I'm old son of
a bitch. Yeah, he's fourteen. And huh you got your
number eleven? All right, number eleven on the Fairport basketball team.
Speaker 7: Good luck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh very excited about that.
Speaker 1: Do you golf too, yeah, he was. That's great. We
have a golf therapy program. Like it's a golf therapy program,
but it's a golfing for you know, golfing for vets,
and we go. We pick a different course every week
and it's a free nine holes with a cart for
the first twelve sixteen, which are now it's ever well now.
Speaker 3: It's a free nine holes with a cart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, grump had to get involved? Well
did the grump have to get involved? What did the
grump do about this? What did you bitch about? Now?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: I jacked ad him, bellow up.
Speaker 5: There was one that they had back that we talked
about a guy of Milk Creek. The pro Creek was talking.
Speaker 1: All the PGA Hope program.
Speaker 5: That they do like a weekend and it's all covered
PG Hope. It's crazy fun.
Speaker 1: It is so when I first got I loved it.
When I got loved, loved that you do this.
Speaker 4: I know I'm serious, but I think it's great.
Speaker 3: That's how I meant.
Speaker 4: But you realize that you're like everybody you You are
a male Karen to these people, you're a fucking Karen,
a Karen.
Speaker 5: Because you pitch about it, they just go just give
it to him. I don't want to hear anymore exactly us.
Speaker 4: I know, and I'm saying that Karen. I can't get
that well Karen. Sometimes they give her a coupon just
fucking leave.
Speaker 3: I wish somebody to give me a CUEI ship I
ain't gotten shifted.
Speaker 4: Do you realize, though, that most of your and I
would I was say, complaining or pushing has not been
for your benefit, never has no, And I think that
that needs to be noted as I'm busting on you,
as I'm teasing my advocacy.
Speaker 3: Yes, isn't about me, No, it's about throws for it's fun.
Speaker 4: I hope you put better clothes or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is a this is some nice wag.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I'm just but this is nice wag from which, actually
I'll tell.
Speaker 4: You something that's a really nice hoodie, but which.
Speaker 6: By the way, wish Myers is a sponsor of charges
that supplies to get can't we're wired, but my every
day he.
Speaker 1: Wish Myers is definitely one of the big, big helpers
throughout the years.
Speaker 4: I mean, from what is wish Myers? I don't have
people are it's.
Speaker 3: A plumbing corporation or company that's been plumbing.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is not your first time in front
of a microphone.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry. I usually talk on the goddamn phone.
I don't I don't come.
Speaker 5: Any place in person.
Speaker 3: But what the fuck is wrong with you? How long
are you known me?
Speaker 4: Simon calls, Simon calls and goes, I don't have GPS
where to help I going. I'm thinking, oh my god,
I don't know how, I don't even know if I.
Speaker 5: Didn't even know where the fuck I was.
Speaker 1: It was dark and he was like, I don't come
out after this, and I just had to. I had
to go with it out. I had GPS chargers, but
he was like, where are we?
Speaker 4: No, I don't know that you were riding together? Correct, Yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Was like, I don't know back of the truck and
I just said there like a fucking lapdog.
Speaker 1: I'm not from this area. I don't know. You mean,
I don't know what you're.
Speaker 3: Killing me here?
Speaker 4: No, it's nice over here.
Speaker 6: My advocacy, yes, and the people that I help, Yes,
I do it because it makes me feel good.
Speaker 3: They don't owe me anything.
Speaker 6: Well, they do, and I shouldn't say that when I
advocate for someone. Yeah, I asked them going in that
whatever I do, however, I do it somewhere in the
course of your lifetime.
Speaker 7: You have to do it for somebody else.
Speaker 4: That the same way you did it.
Speaker 3: Anyway they want, they have to.
Speaker 6: Nobody can do it like there's only one grump in
Rochester that's me. Yes, and technically I am retiring. And
those that I've advocated for over the court of the years,
like Sarge, have their own missions that they're advocating helping others.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's great and I think what Sarge
is doing and trying to bring the community veterans together
and not having these splinter organizations. But there's power in numbers, right,
there's you know, get the number of people talking and
pushing and advocating for If we want a knitting class,
we get the knitting class. But what I having Let's
use the money for something that is really good.
Speaker 6: One hundred grand on a freaking knitting class.
Speaker 4: This is that. That's why I'm saying it like that,
the top to bottom we can I'm saying, like a
knitting class, to your point, may only have six people
that decide to go. Could we find something that would
reach even more? Would there be a better use of
the same money that could have a bigger impact on
more people?
Speaker 3: Or is there a program that has a success rate?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Should we invest in that program and expand it?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I think accountability. I
think that sometimes when you're depressed and you look for
you know, I often have said things that may be
a little controversial to some people. Is I'm not sure
that alcoholism and all is a disease as much as
it is an escape for people. Right, and then we
shame you, we tell you how bad this is, and
then then we don't really give you the tools to
help get you off that or what's the right thing,
and and I'm not sure what that is either. I
don't know. That's not my thing. But I feel like
a lot of times we shame you into well you're
a drunkier this year or that, but you're just looking
to escape some pain that may have been created by
going overseas to defend your country or to you know,
advocate for your country, or whatever we want to call it.
So I do think that we owe people something, right,
We always people somebody.
Speaker 1: I like the programs that are are dry programs, That's
that's what I find that are very very good. Where
there is no you know, even though weeds legal, don't
be hitting the vague hip, you know what I mean,
drink long understable drinking. We're in Fairport, oh Ship. They
don't do that out here, of course they do. Where
is it? I didn't know it was legal out here.
Speaker 4: It's illegal.
Speaker 3: I don't jamis is pointed? Come on, kid, let's go
for a walk.
Speaker 4: There's why. Oh never mind, I don't want to know
about a kid named Josiah.
Speaker 3: No kid on the corner that in the city. Anywhere
I can come out of my bedroom window.
Speaker 4: I don't know that you're right charge. If I think
Parenton did opt in, maybe not for the lounges, but
for the shops. I don't remember what they did because
it's the town of Parenton, right. Each town could advocate
in court and if you were if you were out,
you could get in later, but you couldn't get the
tax revenue.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't really New.
Speaker 3: York State could suck up a weed program.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, like they were smoking weed before they
even thought of.
Speaker 1: I think it's come far, it's come far, but you
have to dry. The dry programs I think are the
best because it stops them from it. There is no
nobody that wants to do it. And we've had people
go from the first couple of days they've come to
these dry programs. They smell like alcohol. I mean some
of them. You know, they've not to mention your name.
One guy smell like alcohol, had no shoes on. He
was golf with no daggon golf shoes on. Great golfer.
I mean he could he could beat me, but those
of it. And then now course, oh man, but listen,
this guy he is he is the best.
Speaker 5: He is the John Daly.
Speaker 4: John Daly, and I think didn't Chevy Chase in Uh.
Speaker 5: Possibly, I think you remember.
Speaker 1: But to go from something like that, to go from
you know, somebody who's comes to the program, that's, oh crap,
I can't come like you know everybody. So it makes
people feel more comfortable everybody. Then then like say, if
I don't go to golf, I'll have two three people
calling me come to my house, knocking my door. Where
the heck were you? You know what I mean? And
that's you won't find that with a lot of a
lot of programs. You won't find that kind of camaraderie.
I've been to organizations, programs, a lot of people could
veterans can vouch for me too. When we go to
these programs, the people we see, we don't talk to
them afterwards. There's only a select organization, especially uh compere
to pfc dwire program, which is peer to peer. That's
what it's meant to be. We don't feel like numbers.
We uh you know, we go there. And as far
as like for bowling, everybody links up. Hey we're golfing
with this old guy, young guy. You know you're hitting
off yellows, you're hitting off this and then what happens
with me is that all these all these organizations have
these golf tournaments, they ask me, they sponsor for some
and I'll bring guys from the golf there, you know,
the golf group, and then we'll just beat everybody at
the tournament. So if you want to invite us anytime,
just let us know, we will come and play.
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of this stuff comes down
to if you feel useful, you and you start to
feel good about yourself, Like even Simon, you should feel
good about the things you've done and help people for right,
and you should. I think that's part of the problem
with some veterans and stuff. You feel useless, so you
feel nameless, faceless and lost. And if you can get
you know something, that's going to give you a little
bit of and you know, we talk about it as
self esteem, as it's this mysterious thing. But I really
think sometimes doing hard things and sometimes it's just getting
out of bed is the hard thing. Do hard things
make your bed get gone slowly, but surely you can
bring it back. And I think what you're doing is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you can't do without the you know, without
the help in the county. And you know what we
have here at the county has out, you know, a
nature program that I didn't know it too much about
and I had my qualms about. But now I've heard
from a veterans that they're benefiting a whole Well.
Speaker 4: Nature has got a lot of healing powers, which sounds
a little weird.
Speaker 1: Like golf. Yes, h well you're outside, but you're outside, yes,
and all competitive and golf is the only it takes
your mind off anything else, right, you're in that moment.
There's golf is the only sport where an able body
person can play against a non able body person and
a competitive fashion. Well, with the handicap system. There's no
other sport that has it. So with the handicapped system,
everything's fair. I try to qualify for Team USA for
the Simpson Cup. They put thirteen disabled veterans from the
United States against thirteen from Great Great Britain in a
Ryder Cup style event. It was held at oak Kill,
Saint Andrews. They go back and forth just like the
regular Ryder Cup. Listen, my first year I got beat
by a triple amputee.
Speaker 4: My Dad's like.
Speaker 1: Stay in your head, staying your dad. I'm so inspired.
This guy's hitting hitting the two hundred yards out the
sand fairways, sand trap and he's only got one arm.
That's inspiring to me. That's what made me.
Speaker 4: I had a picture to my head I thought I
thought had in his mouth.
Speaker 1: But these amputees are are on the team represented in
the team USA. And here I am an able body person,
you know, and my injury is just inside and they're
beating me at golf and they're they're handy guys better
than me anyway, so it doesn't matter. But those kinds
of things are so inspiring. I think when we get
out there and do that and we see somebody like that,
it'll make us take a step back and say, man,
my life isn't really that bad, all right, So what
can I do now to help somebody else? And that's
that's what I want to do.
Speaker 5: You know what was.
Speaker 3: Inspiring, Sarge.
Speaker 6: I had this kid sitting in front of me talking
to me, telling me about how he got blown.
Speaker 7: Up in a rack.
Speaker 3: And he plays golf like a freaking maniac.
Speaker 6: Anytime he could possibly get on a golf course, he
plays on a golf course, hit.
Speaker 1: A lot of books.
Speaker 6: How can this guy who got blown up on the inside.
Speaker 3: Even stup on a golf course. I have no idea,
but here he is.
Speaker 4: There, he is. It's Sarge Golf. That's great charge. Uh,
we'll take a moment reach out to Sarge. What's the
Facebook page against so veterans?
Speaker 1: Veterans and their families because we only have a veterans'
wives can go on Rochester and y veterans on the
fate that's on Facebook and you'll see what you have
questions the answer and then also anybody who has needs
any help or anything combat news co O M B. A,
T N E. W. S N Y at gmail dot com,
me or my team. We have about six or seven
of us to answer that email address. So any questions,
any help you need for disability of housing, anything, just
hit us up and we'll get you to the right
place because we have a lot of a lot of
places to send you to get help.
Speaker 4: All right, we will take a moment when we come back.
The phrase shitting your brains out, Oh may, what do
you mean? What do you mean? Sounded good to you, didn't.
Speaker 3: He That's a subject we could definitely talk about.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you when you get old, shitty becomes a
real pain in as.
Speaker 4: Okay, well you may have to change shitting your brains
out because a new study may say it makes you smarter.
We'll get to that right after this. Hey, it's Bill.
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In twenty twenty five, song for Simons should be theme,
should be your ringtone? It's not loud enough, say you
should be everybody else's ringtone when you I was joking.
Speaker 3: I was joking with my kids.
Speaker 6: You know, sometime for my funeral, I'll have more enemies
coming up piss on my ashes.
Speaker 3: Then I will have friends to see me off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wells are gonna come. I don't give a shit.
Speaker 4: Are you planning this? Are you leaving soon? Where are
you going?
Speaker 7: You never know when you're leaving buildings.
Speaker 6: No, there's no Kimmi there, But just I think anybody
that's getting onto this last stage of their journey, yeah,
should definitely make some arrangements, just in case of Ana.
Speaker 4: Kanas, just in case. Uh. So we said that, I said,
shitting your brains out, and Simon got very excited about that.
He was all comfortable. He said, yeah, beatiful.
Speaker 7: NaN's a big deal when you get older.
Speaker 4: So Kevin sent me this article and it said a
new study investigated the relationship between basically there. They did
a study and I think it's called the what do
they call it? The Strewed Test is what I thought
it was. And they took thirteen different triathletes okay, and
they gave them a test and the test was and
they had words like the word red but read. The
letters in the word read were blue. Okay, So they
said find the color blue. Well, I see the word
red and I'm not it does. It doesn't cordate. So
they did this test and then they had people do
the test after they took a shit. I'm not kidding,
And I know this sounds stupid.
Speaker 3: People get paid the head do these tests.
Speaker 4: I would assume they maybe, I don't know, how about.
Speaker 3: The research study?
Speaker 6: Where do they get their money to take a test
of somebody taking a shit?
Speaker 4: But I like this. Sixty nine percent of the participants
scored better after taking a dump. Then they gave them
all a laxative, okay, and thirteen out of thirteen got
them all right. So they're saying that there's a correlation
between your gut and your brain. That makes perfect sense,
does it not?
Speaker 1: So when I have an early tea time, right, I
swear my dad can vouch for me. If I have
an early tea time. You know I'm getting there. We're
getting ready to go. After I go and take the best.
I mean, it could be any kind any kind of shit.
It could be bad, good, anything, just that whatever it does.
Let me tell you what.
Speaker 4: That first drive, that first hole.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna burdy it. I mean, that's just.
Speaker 4: It's just gonna I do.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you one other thing. If my
buddy's listening, a couple of buddies on golf with it
is they probably are. I am the only one that's notorious.
I know what the port parties are. I will go
right to the porty party mid round and they will
wait for me. People can go through, it doesn't matter.
But when I'm done that next shot, I'm lasening it.
It does. Now that you say it, I promise you
they will probably laugh and make perfect sense because.
Speaker 4: They did it one hour after a natural bowel movement
is when they gave the test, and then an hour
after a magnesium oxide laxative, and that was where the
participants got them all right. Now, the other side of
this could be you took the as before. There's what
what's the margin, arra, what are the variables? However, there
is a big thing between your gut. How many times
do we say gut feeling and all that your your gut,
your has the next amount of nerves in your body
is there. It's your brain and then your gut. Right,
and so when you're doing all you got to think
of what you're eating does affect your brain and things
and that when you clear it out, Simon, when you
clear it out, don't pick.
Speaker 3: Out, you know, nailing at me here.
Speaker 1: You gotta clear clear it out.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you. Just to clear it out is
a challenge in itself.
Speaker 4: We'll get those glicerina now.
Speaker 1: And you'll be smarter because they because it was the
gut so for one, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But it ain't worked in the past two years. What
makes you think whatever?
Speaker 4: The gut brain connection serves as a sophisticated bi directional
communication system that affects multiple critical body functions through a
complex network of nerves, hormones, chemical signals, and its main
purposes include regulating it sent.
Speaker 3: My brain tells me to ship it just don't want to.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, oh, what are you gonna do? Are you
a little backed up there? I used to be Yeah,
what did you do?
Speaker 6: I waited it out, took the laxatives, you name it,
you take it.
Speaker 3: They even prescribed a few just to get.
Speaker 7: It to move.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you do any animals or anything? Oh?
Speaker 7: Absolutely not.
Speaker 6: But okay, I've never had one of them. Man, Yeah,
it sounds kind of exciting.
Speaker 4: I'm just asking, like, if it got that bad because
the problem I was gonna say Elvis died, let me
say this.
Speaker 1: It didn't ship.
Speaker 6: Let me say this just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6: It was so bad that when I did have that
brain clearing as you call it, Yeah, I developed massive
chest pains.
Speaker 4: You thought you were having a heart attack.
Speaker 3: And I thought, uh, last year, last January.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, if you ship and died
on the toilet I had, I would be crying with.
Speaker 5: That's like a ship Danny would have. You have a
massive ship that hard.
Speaker 4: Danny's gonna hear this story and he's gonna go load
up on laxatives.
Speaker 1: Somebody says that I got thoughts about Simon.
Speaker 7: Said so, but I got it.
Speaker 1: It was so.
Speaker 7: I'm going to call it defeating.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that back in January a year ago, I had
major surgery and I have a stint that goes from
my stern them to both my legs O one stent
fourteen inches.
Speaker 7: The incisions by the incisions hurt. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now not the incisions, but where they were to
put the stitches to the a orda that actually hurt.
Then I had chest pains for two days, but I
didn't panic. Had I of panic that I had another
heart attack.
Speaker 4: You think, okay, so that was a heart attack. Then
I've had two of them that you've had. Okay, But that's.
Speaker 6: How serious it gets when you have your medical complications.
Doesn't matter what you eat, what you don't eat, how
you eat. When your gut starts to start, you're screwed.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: I know that after three days, if it's not gone,
I have.
Speaker 1: To go to a hospital. If you don't go to
the bathroom exactly.
Speaker 4: Really, my microphone sounds weird. Does it sound weird to you?
Speaker 3: Just sounds like you're not.
Speaker 7: Are you there ground Control?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: You you're not working.
Speaker 4: Oh I've been having some Uh that was weird. Right,
there's been some weird things happening with you. I can
turn it up my volume, going why can't hear anything. Well, yeah,
she shipped it up.
Speaker 5: Coming and you're talking all this ship you're not talking
about peep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the but it's a it's amazing, like it's Look,
we take it as a sort of a joke, but
there is a real connection between your your diet, what
you eat and in your brain and how your body
functions and when you can feel better and if you
can clear it out and birdy a hole man right
after you blew up some the hole that's fine. I
just it is. It's a funny thing. But yet at
the same time, you know, it makes a lot of sense,
and the science behind it makes a lot of sense.
It does, and you feel better. I mean, how many
times have you walked up Like God, it just feels
so much lighter and better.
Speaker 1: And the only time it's not good is probably like
when you're in Iraq and it's you know, one hundred
and forty degrees in a porta potty. Yeah, and you
gotta take it.
Speaker 7: Yet that's probably the worst, yeah, thinking.
Speaker 1: It's probably the worst, you know ever, especially if your
stomach ERTs.
Speaker 4: They need to bottle that. They should just take those
porta potties and drop those in the middle of places
that would be.
Speaker 1: But they don't use you know, they don't have toilet paper. No,
they don't toilet paper, so probably.
Speaker 3: Would like my finger.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you, Simon.
Speaker 3: I offered you that one. I didn't give it the
other one I didn't offer you to fish ship. Come on, now,
stop it, Billy.
Speaker 4: Danny's going to be so disappointed. He's not.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry he's not here too. I'd love to bust
his ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had, uh back in the day. We used
to have the Christmas party and Simon would come in
and oh, yeah, uh, all kinds of stuff you did,
be rocking the beach.
Speaker 6: Yeah, rocking the beach, and you know, Mike the Dead said,
and everybody Mike the Dad, what a crazy bastard he was?
Speaker 4: Yes, he was. You know, I wore big heart.
Speaker 6: My advocacy takes me in the poorer neighborhoods of our city,
and I spent a lot of time in the otis
Lyle area the past. I'm gonna say from twenty twenty
to probably twenty twenty three. But I was doing my
ship in that area and just I can't I lost.
Speaker 4: It, lost what I lost?
Speaker 3: Where the fuck I was?
Speaker 4: We'll go take a ship and come back.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, he said he was doing this shit.
Speaker 4: Oh, you were down in the poorer neighborhood. And what
about Mike to Dead.
Speaker 6: And Mike the Dead when we were on the show, Yeah,
it was and talking about the trouble in the Order
Street neighborhoods. One day he was picking up his daughter.
Oh god damn, and gunshots went off. Yeah, and Mike
secured his daughter and he heads to where the gunshots are.
Speaker 3: Most people in that neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Go to fucking by the way he went, he had
a gun, I think in his glove box or something,
and he went running.
Speaker 5: After that, he would be a little smart after hearing
the gunshots.
Speaker 4: My favorite, my favorite, There were two. There was a
couple favorite moments with Mike the Dad.
Speaker 3: He broke his ball is good on alle Well, we
broke his.
Speaker 4: Ball is good on that one. But when uh, Tommy
went to Hong Kong and he comes back and Michael,
what do you speak of Hong Kong? I fucking died,
I fucking died, I died. What do you speaking Hong Kong?
I go you can't write this shit. But the best
was there was a lot of things that people didn't
know about people. And you talk about a judge a
book by its cover, right, we should never do that,
and we're we're told that and we shouldn't judge, We
shouldn't do these things.
Speaker 3: But sometimes to me, for the last, don't well.
Speaker 4: I'm touching too. If I saw you coming up to me, steer, so.
Speaker 3: I don't want to even go there.
Speaker 6: I mean, I get I could tell these people some
fucking stories. I can like this place up with no problem.
But I'm being a little bit politically nicely.
Speaker 4: So the but Mike was one of these. He was
kind of a big, scary guy. I think his front
tooth was like chipped.
Speaker 1: At his kind of he was, and it was really
he was.
Speaker 4: He was big, and he had a long braided ponytail.
He looked like kind of a biker guy. But one
of the things I've learned over the years is those
guys are usually the ones that are some of the
sweetest center are they not?
Speaker 5: Absolutely they have a gooey.
Speaker 4: Nugety center. And I mean that with in all sincerity,
because I think a lot of times people see them
and that may he may be the kind of guy
you cross the street to walk on the other side,
if it's late at night, like I don't want any trouble,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Even in the daytime, I might walk away from like.
Speaker 4: If I didn't. So yeah, and he shows up at
my house because he also I don't know if he
ran a florist on the side or did whatever. So
it's Valentine's Day. I'm married at the time. He shows
up at the house and he's got flowers and my
mother answers the door and she goes.
Speaker 2: There's this big guy going, hey, spill here, well with flowers.
Speaker 4: But I mean it was it was for it might
have been Mother's Day now that I'm thinking about it,
because the weather was fairly nice that my mother had
come up, and so it's for Mother's Day. And uh
that was the thing, is like and Race and Randy,
you know, like just people who yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I still talk to Laura. I do quite often.
Speaker 4: Good good. Yeah. We had a nice crew there. That
was a that when I look back over my time
on the radio, Uh, I argue so much with the
company that it sort of soured my memory. That was
some of the best and most fun I ever had
on the radio.
Speaker 1: I used to listen a lot to you guys. When
I was after you know, throughout when I was in
the hospital stays and everything, I used to always listen, listen,
and I remember every time I called them. First thing, somebody,
how's that not doing?
Speaker 4: What do you do that? Well, only because there was
so many surgeries that sort of were the results of
the same thing. Because you had a surgery, something went wrong,
didn't you say? Septis said it yeaheah.
Speaker 1: Then I had a hydra selected me all these words.
I didn't even know things that were happening. Yeah, they
were retubing me, they were taking stuff out of me,
and this didn't work anymore. And cathterizing myself for years.
Speaker 4: You know, you had to catharize yourself.
Speaker 7: Oh that's just that's just wrong.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Jesus sorry.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, my don't that's ever been done
to you? You've ever had that?
Speaker 6: You don't want that, I know, I don't want that
man coming out to bitch.
Speaker 5: You don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 3: He was a pipe cleaner.
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, you had your man card.
Speaker 1: Come on, I used to do it four times a day.
You did yourself, Well, who else is gonna do it?
I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you could pay some broad somewhere in the corner.
Speaker 1: I wasn't married to my amazing one. I had to
do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't want somebody else.
Speaker 1: So it went from doing a balloon, you know, having
the balloon type of thing in there, and then obviously
after a while you can't just you got to keep swapping,
you know, whatever they do, you know you can't do that.
So then you just have to do it yourself. Yeah, yeah,
it happens. But you know, you're just I've passed some
big kidney stones and they're just like, listen, there's no
way your your your your ethra looks like Freddy Krueger's face.
You know that's yeah, because I've passed so many stones,
I've had to you know myself.
Speaker 4: So it's just a lot of scarring.
Speaker 1: I don't know. The scary doesn't bother me anymore. But yeah,
it doesn't. Talking about it's not comfortable. But when you
have so much pain and you gotta pee.
Speaker 4: Did you do it too? There was no pleasure with
it though. Pleasure well, I'm saying later on maybe maybe
you come back.
Speaker 5: You're there was no.
Speaker 1: The only good thing, the only good thing.
Speaker 4: Some guys get. Some guys get a Prince Albert where
they put they pierce it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I saw that conference, the conference.
Speaker 4: On what conference were you at? Conference? Because when I
worked at what kind of Kiki ship for you?
Speaker 6: When I worked as a youth counselor for the police
department back in the eighties, I had to go to
conferences that involve pedophilia, sexual massacres, trafficking.
Speaker 4: Speaking of this is in the eighties they were talking
about trafficking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, we saw it on the street.
Speaker 4: Still. I mean, now, I don't know how you get
to pull it off today with everywhere we go there's
a camera. So I mean it's almost made some police.
Speaker 6: You're making You're making trafficking sound like I'm going to
come up to the corner, snatch you and take your away.
Speaker 4: Yes, but it's rare, but it's very rare.
Speaker 6: Right now, we have over one hundred and twenty kids
in this city. Nobody has a fucking clue where they are.
They're in schools, where do they live, Who's watching them?
I ain't their parents. But now that we went to trafficking,
I have a friend of mine, a very personal friend
of mine. I've known since nineteen seventy five. Yes, he
is a wish Meyer. His name is Bill Wischmeyer, and
he's an expert on human trafficking.
Speaker 7: He lives in Florida.
Speaker 4: He came up here, go go there?
Speaker 7: You want me here or now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, only just because we can hear you better, that's all.
I think what you're saying is important.
Speaker 6: He came up from Florida about a year ago, maybe
a little bit more, and he approached our law enforcement
agencies DA's Office, CDPD and the Mondel County Sheriff's Office
to offer the programs and funding and trying to slow down.
You're not going to stop human trafficking. It's not gonna happen.
I don't believe it's possible, but that's my own personal opinion.
But if you could slow down the rate, in the
way it's being done and who's doing it, then you're
gonna make a big difference. I'd like to possibly offer
Bill a chance to be on your podcast and talk
about this. Monroe County Sheriff's Office was very receptive to Bill.
You didn't hear anything from the DA's office, but the
DA's office does have a last I knew a two
man trafficking unit.
Speaker 7: Two men?
Speaker 6: Is it really isn't really a lot of anything for
the amount of time this stuff takes.
Speaker 4: Would that be more police work or d A. I
don't know, I'm asking.
Speaker 6: I think it would be more police work. And the
city never responded to him, and that's kind of disheartening.
Speaker 4: What do you what do you think of of the
Sheriff's Department?
Speaker 6: I liked the job that that Todd Baxter's I do too,
But I know the best for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love especially a veteran. Yeah, I family, but
I've known him.
Speaker 3: I've known Todd a long time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know him as the man he is behind
the badge.
Speaker 3: The badge is.
Speaker 4: Job, but he's the same guy.
Speaker 6: But the man behind that so much more he is. Yes, Yes,
he's a good family man. He belongs to a church,
his church funteers and goes across the world to help others.
That's the kind of man I can respect.
Speaker 1: He was definitely the first veteran I looked up to.
Speaker 6: And the respect that the aura that, yeah, he has
around him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is this the second time I've heard that word today?
Speaker 3: He carries it all.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 4: It's like, it's just because I haven't heard a lot
of people talk about Aura and today two people And
I will say this, if I was betting, who was
going to say to me, it wasn't Simon.
Speaker 6: There's a lot there's you know, you guys know Simon
to grom everybody knows that. Uh yeah, I'm an old
guy with a big mouth. And yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna.
I'm gonna jeck you up if I think you're doing
something wrong, or if I can help somebody that I'm
helping using my platforms.
Speaker 3: Fuck, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna get your attention. You will listen to me,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I told you you're like the Karen that
we just want to go.
Speaker 3: Away, and Karen, I never I never knew Karen.
Speaker 7: Nobody ever gave me.
Speaker 6: Ship costed me. It's cost me money to be an
advocate Simon.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it has. It has been a pleasure reconnecting
with you, and I would love to have you in again.
I'd love to do like a one on one with
you where we just you and I we just talk.
If you're cool and you don't even have to come in.
We could do it if you had a computer, or
I could do it from where you are.
Speaker 1: I can bring them.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's better that I can't drive at night.
Speaker 4: No, that's okay, I haven't.
Speaker 1: Driven to night.
Speaker 4: Well I could do something Saturday, you know, something like
this community service.
Speaker 5: He's going to bring them like s just got I have.
Speaker 3: I have plenty of stargeres uber, I have plenty of
people that have all.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll make something happen.
Speaker 5: I'd look forward to.
Speaker 1: We have an amazing vets driving vets program to a
lot of people seeing it in the news about transportation.
Speaker 4: That about you, Simon, Why does it have to be.
Speaker 3: Said that you started this conversation with about me? I
mean you want to you better bring Danny in. You
better bring Danny and if you want to go one
on one whatnot?
Speaker 4: This real quick?
Speaker 1: The vetty, I just wanted to let you know quick.
It's a vet's driving vets. So it's it's run through
compuer Core PFC dwire program.
Speaker 4: But the county how do people becoming The Compere program
itself was is really wonderful, but but this is for vet.
Speaker 1: The p FC dwire is the program is the veterans
side of things. But I'm sure you go through and
I'm not. I don't have all my information here I
should the director is probably listening like you should know
all this, but I'm so sorry. But through the PFC
ent wire program or just going joining the Rochester Veterans
Facebook page. We have a BET's driving Vets program. So
if you need transfer rides, like you call ahead of time.
You got a surgery or something, grocery shopping or grocery
shopping or you know, go pay a bill. So you
need to do something like that or come to one
of the events. You can't podcast, you.
Speaker 6: Know, but we have We have that going on and
they have a PORTERTTY readily available.
Speaker 1: Yes in the county the country bathroom.
Speaker 4: We have a bathroom bathroom, don't I don't know.
Speaker 5: You just saw port for a walk or something here,
let's go.
Speaker 1: But no matter what, I just you know, the county out.
No matter how many, how much grumping or bitch whatever
people want to call it, that I do. You know,
I always want to advocate. Well, some people get mad
at what I like saying advocating. Some people say, you know,
you're just you know, being a loud mouth about that,
but I I know the county. The county does so
much for our veterans, and I I want to thank
the county, you know't thank the Veterans Service Agency and
Nick everybody over there, Laura Stradley at the voc UH
and you know the pfc dwire Programming comp here, because
I think that they're they're they're gonna help us coming
into the new year to set the tone and we
can be the county that h that the whole state
looks at how to take care of veterans the proper way,
and we're all gonna unite. So I appreciate all they're
doing because everybody does their own thing and we couldn't
do it without them, and we're all gonna unite and
make it better. So I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 4: I like that. All right, we will wrap it up
for Simon to grump.
Speaker 1: Thanks folks, Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 4: For Serge Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Got a face only my mother would love.
Speaker 4: Who's Serge? Are you my mother? And uh for Kevin
Muir who gave us the the article. I mean, send
me on a little like that little goose chase stay
some research because yes, because behind the gut and the brain.
Speaker 3: I'll send you a picture of the next one past.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't want that. I do not need to
see your hideous intestinal sculpture. That is not what I
want it. We'll see all of you on Monday.
Speaker 5: You see California, baby, Things of God worthy?
Speaker 1: Is the land up opportunity? For me?
Speaker 5: Is just a cursey cat that judge and make us feeling.
You need a looking please,