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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. You know who's

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for the American way these days, far better than

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<v Speaker 1>our commander in chief our own administration is bb netan Yahoo, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fighting for the American way. We're blessed here in

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<v Speaker 1>America with the greatest fighting force in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. But we have a commander in chief and

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<v Speaker 1>a vice president who will not stand up for this nation.

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<v Speaker 1>They will not stand up for good versus evil. But

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<v Speaker 1>bb net in Yahoo does, and he is benefiting us

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<v Speaker 1>here in America greatly. He and the great people of Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're great military, you know, by taking on evil

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<v Speaker 1>head on head on, and I know they've received some support,

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<v Speaker 1>and at times it's been meaningful support from Biden, but

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<v Speaker 1>overall he has been an obstacle. And if they'd followed

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<v Speaker 1>Harris's advice, not only with Sinwar who is evil incarnate,

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<v Speaker 1>not only would he be alive today, he'd be in

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<v Speaker 1>a sanctuary he'd be in the sanctuary of Rafa, which

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<v Speaker 1>Harris insisted be maintained, be protected. No, Israel, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go in there. But Israel thankfully defied, oh the great

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom of Kamala Harris, and went into Rafa. And where

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<v Speaker 1>did they kill Sinwar? Oh? Yeah, what a coincidence in

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<v Speaker 1>Rafa eight five five for zero five A two five

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<v Speaker 1>three nine. Stunning to me, though, that that BB Netanyahu

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<v Speaker 1>and the Israeli military would even think of going into

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<v Speaker 1>Raffa after Kamala Harris told him not to, because, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>she studied the maps. She studied the maps. How could

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<v Speaker 1>netnya who defy her cut twenty eight. Please, we have

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<v Speaker 1>been clear.

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<v Speaker 2>In multiple conversations and in every way that any major

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<v Speaker 2>military operation in Rafa would be a huge mistake. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you something. I have studied the.

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<v Speaker 1>Maps, studied the maps.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nowhere for those folks to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop it right there, if you would rin she has

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<v Speaker 1>studied the maps. This is what the stakes are here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This is what the It's not some parlor game. The

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<v Speaker 1>stakes who wins good or evil? I mean, you just

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<v Speaker 1>look at Sinwire looks like Satan acts like Satan that

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<v Speaker 1>is evil personified, would go put little babies in ovens

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<v Speaker 1>and do the things they did to Jewish women. Which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, where was Kamala Harris, Where was the

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<v Speaker 1>whole left, the whole me too movement about the worst

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<v Speaker 1>sexual violence we've seen in modern times? Oh yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>were nowhere to be found, right because oh it was

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<v Speaker 1>violence against Jews. And you know what, it could really

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<v Speaker 1>help the Republicans if they talked about that horrible violence

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<v Speaker 1>committed by Jumas. So all of a sudden, those women

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter, those young Jewish women being butchered and raped

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<v Speaker 1>and gang raped in the worst possible ways. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter to Kamala Harris in the left because that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>help them politically. So that's what's at steak here, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what's at stake here.

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<v Speaker 3>You have.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone with Kamala Harris's views. If she had her way,

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<v Speaker 1>and she actually threatened Israel over it implicitly about some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of consequences if they went into Rafa. Think about this, undeniable.

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<v Speaker 1>If Kamala Harris had her way, Sinwar would be alive today,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be in control of Rafa, he'd have his army intact.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be deemed victorious because they would have survived. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we have. We have good triumphing over evil

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<v Speaker 1>today and it's not over. But but you know, Harris

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<v Speaker 1>and Biden just won't give up. Biden's out there today saying, Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to wrap this up. No, no, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to crush this evil enemy forever. It's time to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Something Biden won't even consider for this nation or any

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<v Speaker 1>of our allies, is actually winning. No, it's time to win.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for good to defeat evil, and Israel has

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<v Speaker 1>every right to do it, not have Biden and Harris

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<v Speaker 1>out there encouraging them to just, oh yeah, wrap it

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<v Speaker 1>up here. It's politically inconvenient. You know, it might cost

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<v Speaker 1>us Michigan. So thank god for a leader like net

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<v Speaker 1>and Yahoo who just says blank, Joe Biden, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>was at that race, maybe he was at that NASCAR race.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go Brandy, Yeah yeah right, and just says no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>We're I'm going to go protect my people. So congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>to Israel. Great service for the world today, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>our amazing military will someday have a commander in chief

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<v Speaker 1>like net Yahoo, and I think they will very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they will. And what's inauguration Day. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to remember twentieth twentieth January twentieth of twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>five the number in boy. I sure hope and I

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<v Speaker 1>expect that President Trump will be out there talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>making the same point that I just made that if

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris had her way, Sinwaar would be alive today

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<v Speaker 1>and Sinware would be protected in the sanctuary of Rafa.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you're here. Much more to talk about today as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Great slate of guests coming up. My friend Dick Wadhams

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<v Speaker 1>will be on later in the show to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>rank choice voting, which as you know, is on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't talked about on the show before, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that today. Going to have another medical expert

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Amendments seventy nine, and that's the amendment where

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<v Speaker 1>the left wants to put in fantaside, enshrine it in

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<v Speaker 1>our state constitution. And by the way, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for it as a taxpayer. And oh yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>more parental notifications, so we'll have another doctor with us

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss that. Because listen, I get right, you've you've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking about this issue, no matter which side you're on.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard a lot about this issue, et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to do is bring you guests who

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<v Speaker 1>add some value and bring you this additional perspective. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that they are people who want to save innocent human

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<v Speaker 1>life rather than kill innocent human life for life for profit,

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<v Speaker 1>be it dollar, political or both. These are people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to save lives. But another doctor to come on

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about these issues from a medical perspective as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is one of those rare opportunities in Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>to actually win right because for the left to enshrine

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<v Speaker 1>in fantaside in the constitution, they need fifty five percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is a chance to keep them below fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent if the word gets out, because even a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks who favor some level of legal abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully someday we can persuade them otherwise, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a good chunk of those folks who

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<v Speaker 1>would say, even I can't go that far, even I

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<v Speaker 1>can't go to putting in our constitution. Yeah, healthy mom,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy baby, nine months, baby's about to be born. You

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<v Speaker 1>can kill that baby. And by the way, taxpayers have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are a lot of people who, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they favor legalized abortion, would not go that far.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope you really zero in on seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you agree with me on it, then go

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<v Speaker 1>out and start talking to friends and neighbors and anything

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<v Speaker 1>within your comfort zone to try to get every vote

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<v Speaker 1>you can against seventy nine. So we'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that and much more. Obviously, following up on the Brett

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<v Speaker 1>Bear encounter with Kamala HARRISY tried to interview her. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he did the best job of any interviewer I've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>but she had her strategy and we broke it down

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<v Speaker 1>at link yesterday. So we'll just a touch on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the highlights today. But there's one thing overall I

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<v Speaker 1>talking about more over the coming weeks, and that is,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said at the beginning of this campaign, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is going to win because of the Catholic vote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not to elevate Catholics over anybody else or the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of Catholics over anybody else, not at all. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the point that The point is just that Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris has gone out of her way to alienate Catholics,

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<v Speaker 1>and she knew she was doing it, and she reveled

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<v Speaker 1>in it. And now what's probably the most critical voting

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<v Speaker 1>block in Pennsylvania Catholics. Yeah, that best estimates are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to make up about thirty percent of the electorate

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have a very strong Catholic presence throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the Blue Wall States. So during the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>show today and I picked today because it's the Al

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Dinner tonight. I mean from like George Washington went

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<v Speaker 1>to the L Smith Dinner, right, the L Smith Dinner

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<v Speaker 1>where the Cardinal of New York gets together with the

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<v Speaker 1>leading presidential candidates just before the election. They're raising money

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<v Speaker 1>for the kids and all these other good causes, and

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<v Speaker 1>the candidates do some self deprecating humor take some shots

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<v Speaker 1>at each other. It's a great American moment. But who's

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<v Speaker 1>ducking it? Of course Kamala Harris is ducking it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just tells you everything about her. So we're picking

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<v Speaker 1>this occasion today to get into some of the data

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<v Speaker 1>that if, like me, you want to see Trump have

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<v Speaker 1>second term, I'll put a big smile on your face

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of date out there right now

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<v Speaker 1>about the Catholic vote in these critical swing states. So

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<v Speaker 1>all of that ahead. Chime in anytime, you know me.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's off topic, we'll take it anyway. Eight five

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<v Speaker 4>These girls, you know, Joscelyn Nungary and Lake and Riley

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<v Speaker 4>and of course Patty's daughter are not dead because of

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<v Speaker 4>some accident or some force of nature. They're dead because

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris opened the border and let their killers into

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<v Speaker 4>our country to go after their daughters. They don't just

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<v Speaker 4>need our sympathy, they don't just need our kind words.

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<v Speaker 1>So they certainly deserve that.

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<v Speaker 4>They need leadership who actually puts the security of this

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<v Speaker 4>country first, and unfortunately they're just not getting that from

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, he is so good, isn't he. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the many things and very soon on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>not to be presumptuous, obviously, anything could happen on election day,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I've been saying for many many moons, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she can't win it. Trump can lose it. Could Trump

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<v Speaker 1>still do some things that might cost him the election?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure do? I think you will know. He's always been

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<v Speaker 1>a very good closer. Not perfect, no human is, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's always been a very good closer, very hard working closer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I expect he'll do that here. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I'm so excited about as we start a

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<v Speaker 1>series of shows soon that we'll look ahead to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the next Trump administration is JD. Vance's vice president because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we're going to be in this very unusual situation

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<v Speaker 1>where where it's just going to be a one term president,

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<v Speaker 1>right second term, but a one term president at this

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<v Speaker 1>point han't had that gap in between. But obviously Vance

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<v Speaker 1>was picked for two reasons. He was picked for the

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Wall States, where I think he's been very effective,

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<v Speaker 1>and with Tim Walls being a kind of the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>he's been picked as the MAGA successor. And he's been

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<v Speaker 1>picked and obviously, you know, Trump could have easily picked

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<v Speaker 1>some very very good candidates, such as a Marco Rubio

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<v Speaker 1>or a Glenn Younkin, and I would have been thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Americans would be you know, very very

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump will be kept safe though as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>on Colorado roadways by the left. You know, in their

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<v Speaker 1>just everything right, and you're experiencing out of the roadways

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<v Speaker 1>a little fun with you. Let's say, can we do

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<v Speaker 1>cut eight Ryan, just to kind of celebrate the moment

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<v Speaker 2>Cutting, But also don't forget what we also know about

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<v Speaker 1>They can be really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we make them live in dormitories with the resident.

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<v Speaker 1>Assistants with a curfew. Right, But let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember about when we put them in college, what do

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<v Speaker 2>else do we know about this population? Eighteenth through twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>They are stupid. That is why we put them in dormitories.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have a resident assistant. Thanks Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>But just two pleasant thoughts there. One is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly at this point the Hairs campaign, they're out of gas.

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<v Speaker 1>They've committed down the stretcher on. You know what their

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<v Speaker 1>message is to amer it's no longer the hope and

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<v Speaker 1>joy and vibes and turn the page. And well it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little turn the page, but the hope enjoying vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not what they're going to do to make your

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<v Speaker 1>life better. It is pure scorched rs. Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>the devil. That's their closing message. And what I say is,

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<v Speaker 1>let me send you the limo and if you promise,

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<v Speaker 1>if you promise that that's what you're going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>check to do it. Because that's as good right now

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<v Speaker 1>as as electing Donald Trump. Plus, I mean, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what people want right now. People know Trump, right Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>they know they know the positive, they know the negative.

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<v Speaker 1>People's opinions are formed. And if that's all Harris and

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<v Speaker 1>That is a gift to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus the reason I reprised that montage dan is I

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<v Speaker 5>caught her in a lie with Brett Maher last night,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I would never say that about the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, if you listen to Donald Trump, if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch any of his rallies, he's the one who

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one who talks about an enemy within, an

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<v Speaker 2>enemy within, talking about the American people, suggesting he would

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what I'm looking forward to down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, we don't get to enjoy it here in

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado because we're not a swing state. We get the

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<v Speaker 1>occasional national ad that hits Harris, but in the swing

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<v Speaker 1>states now is predicted. They're just deluged fortunately with these

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<v Speaker 1>her own words, and it's a wide variety including that.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you know, you want to talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>oh she's the name calling candidate, but way beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>her true view of these young people. Yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to work great for in the Swing States.

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<v Speaker 5>And I really a problem what she said that he

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what's become so clear, right is she just

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the left in general, right, I mean, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know a lefty around here who doesn't not Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lefty that the truth means nothing to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're totally untethered from the truth. And that's one reason

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<v Speaker 1>why they're going to lose, not everywhere, but they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose the presidency and they're going to lose many

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<v Speaker 1>other places as well. So Hey, quick preview for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the show Today. When we come back, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a special guest at a doctor talking about Amendments

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine in Colorado, And again, respectfully request you really

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<v Speaker 1>consider diving into this and doing everything you can to

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<v Speaker 1>help defeat it. And even if you happen to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the abortion issue from me

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<v Speaker 1>and you believe that abortions should be legal, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you will believe seventy nine, which enshrines in fantaside in

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<v Speaker 1>our constitution goes way, way, way too far, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, makes you and other taxpayers pay for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll have a medical doctor after the break on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Wadhams later in the show to talk about ranked

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<v Speaker 1>and why I believe Kamala Harris is going to get

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, you're on the Dankpla Show.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Start your tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth

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<v Speaker 2>and f you if you can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>This version of Biden intellectually, analytically is the best Biden ever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>same people are telling you that, oh, she did great

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<v Speaker 1>Perell will join us in a minute, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a discussion from a medical standpoint about Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine, Because what's so fascinating to me as a

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<v Speaker 1>relied for so many years on just lies about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>simply basic human physiology and what exactly is happening in

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<v Speaker 1>very helpful to people who are making a decision on

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<v Speaker 1>whether to enshrine and fantaside in the Colorado Constitution to

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<v Speaker 1>actually know the undeniable, indisputable medical reality, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>put religion aside, put philosophy aside, put politics aside, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the actual medical facts? Right? And it's said, very

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<v Speaker 1>similar to slavery in this sense. Now, slavery was its

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<v Speaker 1>own unique form of evil, right, and the horrors involved

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<v Speaker 1>in that unimaginable, but the same idea of somebody else's

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<v Speaker 1>so long just the basic truth about those humans who

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<v Speaker 1>there is that similarity to abortions. So really grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>for Life, talk about this from a medical standpoint, Doctor,

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it obviously in this context we're talking about Amendment

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think Colorado's are ignorant about the current state

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<v Speaker 3>of abortion access in Colorado. Our polling suggests that send

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<v Speaker 3>one percent of people don't even realize that abortion is

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<v Speaker 3>already legal under all circumstances in Colorado, and so this

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<v Speaker 3>amendment to the Constitution doesn't change that reality. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to have a pro life majority in

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<v Speaker 3>the legislature or have a pro life governor to change

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<v Speaker 3>that anytime in the foreseeable future. But what it does

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<v Speaker 3>do is lock in abortion access which is unregulated, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's where it could really harm women in our patients,

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<v Speaker 3>because we know that late abortions are occurring commonly in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>They were between four hundred and sixty eight and four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty six abortions after the lower living of

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<v Speaker 3>from doctor Warren Hearn and from other states which tracks

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<v Speaker 3>late abortions, at least half and probably more closer to

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<v Speaker 3>seventy percent of these abortions are in healthy women with

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<v Speaker 3>are substantial, and we currently have no regulations pertaining to

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<v Speaker 3>to physician and nurse practitioner, but they could they could

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<v Speaker 3>be untrained, unqualified, and not peer reviewed. And the clinics

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<v Speaker 3>that perform second and church trimester abortions in Colorado currently

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<v Speaker 3>have no licensing regulations or inspections, which you know stands

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<v Speaker 3>and start contrast to other facilities like birthing centers. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>in Colorado in Boulder, there is a birthing center that

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<v Speaker 3>is license expected and regulated, even though they perform much

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<v Speaker 3>the very very high risk late second and churchi of

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<v Speaker 3>mister abortions that occur at the Boulder abortion clinics. So

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't make any sense, and it certainly doesn't protect

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Tom prell our guests Democrats for life. So are

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<v Speaker 1>you telling me, doctor that this hot dog stand that

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure is subject to licensing and inspections as

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I a lot of things regulated in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, it's a glaring exception that abortion clinics,

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<v Speaker 3>second and third teme mister, abortion clinics have no oversight.

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<v Speaker 3>And the abortion industry will say, well, they have to

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<v Speaker 3>be licensed to practice medicine, and that's true, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>to be ready to address you know, massive hemorrhage, shock

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<v Speaker 3>now the state of Colorado does not provide any oversight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, which wait, a second, that seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>this late term abortion on demand, taxpayers pay for it.

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<v Speaker 1>They say they're pro woman, but it seems to me

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<v Speaker 1>they're pro abortion and anti woman, because if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>pro woman, wouldn't you want all those protections in place

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<v Speaker 1>for the woman who's having this surgery conducted.

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<v Speaker 3>You're actually right, I mean, it appears that they're more

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about access than the health and safety of women.

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<v Speaker 3>And certainly there's ways to regulate abortion clinics that would

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<v Speaker 3>be prudent and do not represent an undue burden on

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<v Speaker 3>the clinics, but that's not to be possible for them

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<v Speaker 3>in seventy nine passes. And like I said, well, because

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<v Speaker 3>the language of the amendment says you can't do anything

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<v Speaker 3>that impedes access to abortion. And we know just from

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<v Speaker 3>our experience when we've tried to regulate abortion clinics in

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<v Speaker 3>the legislature, the abortion industry comes out in full force

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<v Speaker 3>and says that these kinds of regulations that specifically applied

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<v Speaker 3>to abortion clinics are impediments to abortion access. And so

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<v Speaker 3>an ACOG, which is the professional medical organization that oversees

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<v Speaker 3>obqu a. NS also considers abortion regulations of any kind

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<v Speaker 3>that pertain to abortion clinic specifically to be impediments to access.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if this gets the legislature, it'll be defeated.

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<v Speaker 3>And if it isn't defeated the legislature, the courts will

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<v Speaker 3>notify any abortion amendments that are perceived to be impediments.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that a KOV will stand behind them

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<v Speaker 3>in that case.

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<v Speaker 1>And doctor, what I'd like to do now, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a few more minutes you could spend with us?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Because what I'd like to do now, with fair notice

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<v Speaker 1>to parents who may have young children in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can turn off the radio if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want the kids to hear this is I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to stay through a short break and then

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<v Speaker 1>to describe for people the truth from a medical standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>about what it is that these pro abortionists want enshrined

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado constitution, what these late term abortions really are

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<v Speaker 1>from a medical standpoint, because I think very few people

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<v Speaker 1>have had the opportunity to learn the truth about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you do that with us?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So fair warning to parents who may have young

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the current I understand there may be some

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<v Speaker 1>adults who don't want to hear this because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly evil and awful and unimaginable. But that's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do this with doctor Perell is so

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<v Speaker 1>people can understand the medical reality of what the proponents

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<v Speaker 1>of seventy nine want enshrined in our constitution. And oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you have to pay for it too

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<v Speaker 1>as a taxpayer. So we'll be back with doctor Perell.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dan Kapla Show and now back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. Doctor Tom Perell, head of

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats for Life kind enough to join us. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a segment together and we're going to have a second

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<v Speaker 1>segment now. I give a warning before the break. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>offer it now in case you just joined us. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about Amendments seventy nine, which would enshrine abortion

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<v Speaker 1>up to the moment of delivery in the Colorado Constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>That includes healthy moms, healthy babies, full nine months ready

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver type abortion. And so he's going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>it now from a medical standpoint, simply the medical reality

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<v Speaker 1>of what it is that Jared Polus and others want

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<v Speaker 1>to enshrine in Colorado's constitution. So if you have young

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the car, or people of any age who

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<v Speaker 1>might just be too upset by this, I understand that's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point. Something that is this awful that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to warn people before you tell the truth about

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<v Speaker 1>it on air should not be in our constitution. Doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>please take the floor, And with that warning offered, described

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<v Speaker 1>for people the reality of this late term abortion they

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<v Speaker 1>want protected in the constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>Happening. They envision maybe some rare late abortions on women

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<v Speaker 3>with fetuses with life limiting conditions, but the reality is

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<v Speaker 3>that the majority of these late abortions are occurring on

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<v Speaker 3>healthy babies in healthy women. And these babies, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>can kick, the mother can feel them kick, They can

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<v Speaker 3>hear their mother's voice, respond to her voice. They've even

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<v Speaker 3>demonstrated by ultrasound techniques that a baby can even mimic

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<v Speaker 3>the sound of a nursery song by opening and closing

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<v Speaker 3>its mouth. It can even demonstrate social behavior with a

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<v Speaker 3>twin in uterow. So, I mean, we've learned so much

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<v Speaker 3>about the sophistication of late second and third trimester babies

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<v Speaker 3>that we didn't appreciate before. And we also know that

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<v Speaker 3>they could survive at as early as twenty one weeks

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<v Speaker 3>at some centers in the country like University of Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reality is that these babies that have all

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<v Speaker 3>these very human features and we would all recognize as

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<v Speaker 3>babies if they were born prematurely, they are being killed.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way this is happening, as much as particularly,

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<v Speaker 3>really really disturbing, and I think if people understood, they

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<v Speaker 3>would not want to shrine this into the state constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>But in a second trimester abortion, we do what's called

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<v Speaker 3>the dn E, or they do what's called the DNA,

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<v Speaker 3>in which case they insert lamon area, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>seaweed type thing, into the cervix to dilate it, and

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<v Speaker 3>usually it takes one to two to three days, depending

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<v Speaker 3>on how far along in gestation is to dilate the

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<v Speaker 3>cervix and adequate size to remove parts of the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>And after this series of dilations, they stick a four

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<v Speaker 3>steps like device into the uterus and they grab whatever

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<v Speaker 3>they can grab first and pull and usually this disarticulates

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<v Speaker 3>or dismembers the fetus, and then they put go in

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<v Speaker 3>for another another at and pull out more until what's

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<v Speaker 3>basically left is a large head, and then they put

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<v Speaker 3>the four STIPs in and try to scorch the head

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<v Speaker 3>because it's too big to come out. And then they

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<v Speaker 3>know that they're successful because they see white material which

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<v Speaker 3>is the brain emanating from the cervix, and then pull

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<v Speaker 3>out the rest of the fetus. Now, mind you, this

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<v Speaker 3>is happening at a time when the pedias can experience pain,

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<v Speaker 3>and before twenty weeks, virtually nobody does anything to kill

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<v Speaker 3>the fetus before the procedure, so the pedius is being

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<v Speaker 3>killed by dismemberment and feeling every bit of that pain

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<v Speaker 3>we now know. We used to think that the piedeus

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't appreciate pain until mid to late third trimester, but

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<v Speaker 3>there are studies now that suggests that fetis can experience

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<v Speaker 3>pain as early as twelve weeks in utero, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is the time when this procedure is being performed. After

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<v Speaker 3>twenty weeks. Sometimes they kill the phoenis before they dismember it.

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<v Speaker 3>About half the time they do that, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>third trimester. That's a pretty characteristic for them to kill

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<v Speaker 3>the fetus first, and that sounds like, well, that's more humane,

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<v Speaker 3>but it really is not. It may be even worse

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<v Speaker 3>to some extent because the most common way to kill

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<v Speaker 3>the fetus is by injecting a drug called the Jockson.

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<v Speaker 3>It's common use in adults and children for heart heart

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<v Speaker 3>failure and heart rate rhythm regulation. But in mild toxicity,

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<v Speaker 3>which I took care of patients like this all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>you developed severe nausee, vomiting, a domino, pain, and delirium,

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<v Speaker 3>and that includes in children's and infants. And so you

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<v Speaker 3>can imagine with a massive overdose that is required to

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<v Speaker 3>kill a fetus in utero, this is torturing the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>The fetus is experiencing these things and it doesn't kill.

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<v Speaker 3>The abortion provider says it will stop the heart. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's true to a certain extent, but it takes minutes

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<v Speaker 3>to hours depending on how you delivered to the Jockson.

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<v Speaker 3>If you deliver it in the amniotic fluid that surrounds

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<v Speaker 3>the baby, it can take up to twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 3>to kill the fetus. And during that time this baby's

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<v Speaker 3>anguishing with with nause of, vomiting, pain, and delirium. To

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<v Speaker 3>what extent they could experience that and and so it

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<v Speaker 3>really is something that's cruel and usual never be tolerated

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<v Speaker 3>in a capital case, and yet we're doing it with

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<v Speaker 3>these these innocent human beings. And then, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>a third semester, after killing the fetus, if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>work in the first attempts that the abortion provider tacks

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<v Speaker 3>and ogus the phes is still alive, they repeat the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing again. So it could be even five percent

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't work the first time, so those those poor

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<v Speaker 3>pieces have to endure this, you know, in a second attempt.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just unimaginable. I don't think people of Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>if they understood that that they would they would want

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<v Speaker 3>to ensuring that kind of practice into the state constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent agree, And thank you for that description.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that honest, factual medical description. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to post that online as well, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>people will circulate it because I know so many people

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<v Speaker 1>who disagree with man abortion. They want abortion to be legal,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have no idea that this is the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if we can't change their mind on the

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<v Speaker 1>legality of abortion overall, hopefully they will see that we

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be enshrining this in the constitution and making taxpayers

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<v Speaker 1>that we are a better people than that. And doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful for your time today. I hope we

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<v Speaker 1>can have you back often between now an election day

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, obviously we have to do everything we

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<v Speaker 1>can to defeat this. How can people follow you Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>for Life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they can follow us on Facebook Democrat's Life of

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado with a chirod chapter of Democrats Life of America.

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<v Speaker 3>We also have a way page and and uh, they're

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<v Speaker 3>also interested in going to but that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me for interrupting. I'll get that information and posted

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<v Speaker 1>after the break. Thank you again for your time today,

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<v Speaker 1>sir
