Speaker 1: It's it's funny, and I mean, I guess this goes
Speaker 1: back into like old w or wrestling soup lore that
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about when certain people leave and
Speaker 1: certain people die, will there be shoot interviews about them?
Speaker 1: And I mean, Hull Cogan is now gone, and we
Speaker 1: still haven't really gotten much different than what we had before.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, the people that were coming out before
Speaker 1: when you're still alive are the same ones that coming
Speaker 1: out now. But Vince McMahon is an interesting one because
Speaker 1: it's really feeling like that this uh, this dark side
Speaker 1: of the ring about Jeff Jarrett and TNA is really
Speaker 1: the pimple popping because everybody, everybody is taking shots, like
Speaker 1: you know, people that you don't expect, like a Karen
Speaker 1: Jarrett and then other people like a Matt Hardy. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, that's that's interesting. Like all these
Speaker 1: people are coming forward and you gotta figure this is
Speaker 1: a controlled environment, right, And I know Tony CON's on
Speaker 1: the show and stuff too, but this is a controlled environment.
Speaker 1: But I think allowing this out here is you're you're
Speaker 1: watching the pimple burst and then there's gonna be another
Speaker 1: big squeeze of just shit stories coming about about Vince McMahon.
Speaker 1: I mean, great colle came forward, A fucking fucking great
Speaker 1: collee came forward to bury Vince McMahon for fuck's sakes.
Speaker 1: This week.
Speaker 2: He he made me comedy character because it was too
Speaker 2: depressing to realize. I flapjack people to death, like the
Speaker 2: funk out of here.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I think it is is Vince
Speaker 3: now at this point is the wrestling business's ex boyfriend.
Speaker 3: And everybody's going to feel comfortable now that they've been
Speaker 3: removed enough from the situation, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: it's like if you live in a small town or
Speaker 3: you don't go go to the same school or area
Speaker 3: or whatever. It's like you might break up with somebody
Speaker 3: and then you don't want to talk shit about them
Speaker 3: because you never know who's around, right, whether it gets
Speaker 3: back to you or you know, it's just somebody's family member.
Speaker 3: You know, that's just how people will act. You know,
Speaker 3: they'll hold their tongues. But in the case events now,
Speaker 3: it's like everybody's sitting at the table and they're all saying,
Speaker 3: all right, everybody, say what you're thinking on three one two,
Speaker 3: three vinces a piece. Of shit. Oh good, Okay, we
Speaker 3: can all show VNSUS.
Speaker 1: A piece of that, right, you know do an even
Speaker 1: big Show got his shots in today and it was
Speaker 1: today or yesterday because he just signed a new contract,
Speaker 1: right and my headline now because I'm ready on no DQ,
Speaker 1: the headline is signing a new deal with AW. It
Speaker 1: helps when your boss likes you. You Oh, like, dude,
Speaker 1: Vince kept you around for so fucking long, you were
Speaker 1: way past any use for years. You didn't get the
Speaker 1: hints that your career was in a downward spiral when
Speaker 1: you had you had you dress up like fucking baby
Speaker 1: Huey and fight us some ASUMO in the middle of
Speaker 1: wrestle Mania.
Speaker 3: Well you have to think to yourself, like, even with
Speaker 3: Vince's mindset and just the general wrestling mindset of everybody
Speaker 3: that was a promoter, which they got a little bit
Speaker 3: into talking about Jerry Jared on that.
Speaker 1: Episode Surprise, because they they really made it sound like
Speaker 1: this was like TNA is Jeff Jared's vision and baby
Speaker 1: Jeff Jared's the creator of TNN.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, well, there's just I think they're using
Speaker 3: the dad almost there's like a sympathy piece for Jeff.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, but Jeff was a piece of shit, Like, like,
Speaker 3: let's not forget that, Like, yes, Jeff was an alcohol
Speaker 3: and a lot of that could be you know, traced
Speaker 3: back to that. And I'm sure like they're like, Jerry
Speaker 3: Jarrett wasn't a perfect person by the means, and you're like, yes,
Speaker 3: but you have to always remember when you're talking about
Speaker 3: that kind of dynamic where it's like one person is
Speaker 3: a fucking addict and the other person's like a seventy
Speaker 3: five year old man.
Speaker 1: See, I never think I never saw it even like that, right,
Speaker 1: Like I think that they kind of uh ret conned
Speaker 1: why TNA existed in the first place. It was because
Speaker 1: the NWA was out of money. Yeah, well that too.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest. The whole reason that NWA
Speaker 1: TNA existed, it was an NWA property. It wasn't some
Speaker 1: grand vision of Jerry Jarrett or Jeff Jarrett. It was
Speaker 1: an extension of them trying to because at the time,
Speaker 1: how many different NWA faction promotions do they have, like twenty.
Speaker 3: Why I can only distinctly remember Wildside by that point,
Speaker 3: but that's because it was the because that was aj
Speaker 3: Styles show right, you know what I mean. Like, that's
Speaker 3: why everybody that was an indie person in the early
Speaker 3: two thousands, late nineties remembers that. But like I guess
Speaker 3: getting back to like the thing with Vance, like when
Speaker 3: Big Show's sitting there going, oh, well, you know, I
Speaker 3: guess you did. You know they didn't like me or
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck? You weren't supposed to be a giant
Speaker 3: in one territory for twenty years. That's how these people
Speaker 3: thought about it.
Speaker 1: Let me read off what he says, right, so I'm
Speaker 1: looking at what he actually said. He says, let's thank
Speaker 1: Tony Khan because Tony Khan still sees something in me.
Speaker 1: So I'm grateful for that. It helps when your boss
Speaker 1: likes you. It kind of helps when he's one of
Speaker 1: those bosses that understands what you've been through, how uh
Speaker 1: and understands your your vision, the Big Show's vision. Oh okay.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, we're gonna make this happen. I want
Speaker 1: to see this happen too. So you're like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: good because you know, hey, this is a tough business.
Speaker 1: But I'm very grateful. I'm very happy, and that's why
Speaker 1: I'm here to kick butt. Oh look in a world,
Speaker 1: didn't we just get done talking on Tuesday about there
Speaker 1: are no more WWE lifers. No, it's done yet, Big
Speaker 1: shows somehow found away found the algorithm to become a
Speaker 1: wrestling lifer.
Speaker 3: Well, this is what's funny to me too in this situation,
Speaker 3: is is what's what's her name too? You mentioned Karen
Speaker 3: Jarrett earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's on the dark side or whatever, right, right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: She's also like Tony Kahn is a great person too.
Speaker 3: People are mean to him online. It's like, all right,
Speaker 3: we get it. Vince was a shit bag. Vince ran
Speaker 3: things like a fucking nasty, mean, fucked up businessman. Obviously
Speaker 3: we know this to be true. But Tony Kahan, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you give them the infinite money glitch and then just
Speaker 3: make them like a dorky guy. Yeah, of course, you've
Speaker 3: gotta be a great boss to everybody.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It is if you gave whatever your special interest was, right,
Speaker 3: if you were a music guy or you know, wrestling obviously,
Speaker 3: but you know so you oh, you have a record label,
Speaker 3: you're signing a record label, and you have two bajillion
Speaker 3: fucking dollars. Well, I can just let every band that
Speaker 3: I've ever liked to make a record and whatever they
Speaker 3: need to pay to make that album great? And what
Speaker 3: do you want that? And four different colors? You want
Speaker 3: that vinyls sounds good? You want to tour Asia great?
Speaker 3: And you can just bottomlessly, endlessly fund your special interests.
Speaker 3: Then I'm sure everybody when the day comes that, they
Speaker 3: got to ask, Hey, what do you think about the
Speaker 3: guy that owns your record label?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: He's the fucking best.
Speaker 1: Right, he's awesome?
Speaker 3: We all love him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, duh.
Speaker 3: You know, like he keeps making he keeps letting us
Speaker 3: make albums, and they sell, you know, they go fucking
Speaker 3: triple aluminum and sell fourteen hundred copies and we spend
Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars making it. But he's the best,
Speaker 3: He's the best, He's the greatest. And it's like, well, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: it's that is part of the game here too. And
Speaker 3: you know that to some extent, it's because you're talking
Speaker 3: to people like Big Show and Karen Jarrett and all
Speaker 3: these other people. They're into their fifties, so they've lived
Speaker 3: and they more than likely just want exactly what they're
Speaker 3: getting here. They want peace of mind, they want someone
Speaker 3: to be nice to them and they don't want to
Speaker 3: be asked to do too much, which is fine. Which
Speaker 3: is fine because to me, in my mind, I'm going
Speaker 3: if you had a regular job and any capacity, whatever
Speaker 3: it might be, firefighter, cop, you know, whatever your job is,
Speaker 3: they probably should look at you at fifty, he's three
Speaker 3: years old and say, we're not going to ask you
Speaker 3: to do the same level as shit as we're going
Speaker 3: to ask the twenty five year old to do because
Speaker 3: you might not be able to physically or mentally handle
Speaker 3: that cognitive load. But also at the same exact time,
Speaker 3: don't ignore the fact where it's like, yes, Vince was
Speaker 3: an asshole, Yes Vince was a piece of shit, but
Speaker 3: Vince was running a real business. And nobody wants to
Speaker 3: put up with the people that are running real businesses
Speaker 3: because they're it's miserable. It's miserable. The people that you
Speaker 3: meet that own whatever it might be. They own their
Speaker 3: own little store, they own their own restaurant, or whatever
Speaker 3: it might be, it's hard fucking work. One of my
Speaker 3: friends that has owned the food truck forever that I've
Speaker 3: known for twenty years, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm gona
Speaker 3: want to doing this, and he's doing all these events.
Speaker 3: If you talk to him for like more than five minutes,
Speaker 3: he's like, man, I can't wait to get out of
Speaker 3: this shit because it's fucking stressful and it beats the
Speaker 3: shit out of you. And yeah, I'm sure that's what
Speaker 3: it was like working for Vince. What's it like working
Speaker 3: for Tony Khant? Show up when you want checks in
Speaker 3: the fucking you know that Zell's hit in every six days. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: wonder you think he's the man. But there you are,
Speaker 3: there you are if you're fucking the Big Show in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, I too would also say what a
Speaker 3: great boss, what a great guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I get that. It's just the absurdity of
Speaker 1: people taking what he says seriously, right, Oh yeah, So,
Speaker 1: I mean you have different levels of wrestling fandom, you
Speaker 1: have different levels of the media and people that are
Speaker 1: watching what what fucking Big Show says in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: And the fact that he can even get quoted for
Speaker 1: something like this as not being an absurdist joke is
Speaker 1: just wild. The fact that he's still getting signed, the
Speaker 1: fact that he's still getting signed, what has he done?
Speaker 1: What has Big Show done? In ten years and what.
Speaker 3: Can he contribute to, especially a show like a w Ye.
Speaker 1: People on the fucking thing. You know, it'd be one
Speaker 1: thing if everybody on the show is like six six
Speaker 1: and up, I'd be like, oh, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: as a bigger guy, maybe he knows like other things,
Speaker 1: like if he's not contributing creatively, maybe maybe Big Show
Speaker 1: is helping them, you know, just be able to find
Speaker 1: cheap clothes. I don't fucking know, but what is Big
Speaker 1: Show doing for people that are literally the size of
Speaker 1: his knee? Like that's just.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's the sports thing, right with the veterans
Speaker 3: where you know, both you and I during the beginning
Speaker 3: of the NFL LAFT season, we're going, oh, hey, Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousins got signed to go to Vegas and help out
Speaker 3: that for Fernando Mendoza kid, Like yeah, they're both like churchy,
Speaker 3: dork Flanders guys perfect perfect, you know, like just the same,
Speaker 3: like a similar amount of athletics, raised kind of similar,
Speaker 3: have the same interest. So cool, there's somebody that you
Speaker 3: know I can I can tag you up with and
Speaker 3: they can help you out. Who's helping Who's Big Show
Speaker 3: helping out?
Speaker 1: So so Derek's threw it up in there. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, a big show really put over Hobbs when
Speaker 1: he was there. You know, that's funny because Hobbes is
Speaker 1: saying that his time in WWE has exceeded all of
Speaker 1: his expectations. He is he is happier in WWE doing nothing,
Speaker 1: doing nothing than he was in AW He said, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's exceeded my expectations. It's been wild. From the moment
Speaker 1: that I put on put pen to paper and knew
Speaker 1: I was coming here, to everything that's happened since, it's
Speaker 1: just been incredible. There are moments right before my music
Speaker 1: hits that I'm about to walk out where everything feels
Speaker 1: like it's in slow motion. I'm it honestly feels like
Speaker 1: I'm living in a dream that I don't want to
Speaker 1: wake up from. Everything has been really great, really great.
Speaker 1: I've been put in some great positions and I've knocked
Speaker 1: it out of the park. That's exactly what I plan
Speaker 1: to continue doing. Yeah. Yeah, And you know what, though,
Speaker 1: from what I've heard from random people, he's very well liked.
Speaker 1: He's very very well liked there from what I've gathered.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure that you know he shows up and hey, listen, man,
Speaker 3: nothing will take this thing out and not being booked
Speaker 3: and not being featured like everybody making you feel like, hey,
Speaker 3: we're glad to have you here, and we're not going
Speaker 3: to just fucking kick you out the door next week.
Speaker 1: They just don't know what the fuck they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with him, TKO. If they're running everything creatively, they have
Speaker 1: no idea who he is because they didn't pay attention
Speaker 1: to aw So even focusing on a guy like Hobbs
Speaker 1: or Starks or any of these new guys is is
Speaker 1: almost fascinating work because they have to be convinced by
Speaker 1: guys like Triple H, by that creative team, that booking committee,
Speaker 1: that that's the right idea. Because even though to us
Speaker 1: Hobbs is a great wrestler, looks like a looks like
Speaker 1: a fucking Hollywood star, he looks like a bruiser in
Speaker 1: some Hollywood movie, you know, Like he's not he's not Denzel,
Speaker 1: He's Denzel's friend's friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that's it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Is Like, there's only so many spots to go around.
Speaker 3: And it goes back to what I was saying, you know,
Speaker 3: a month ago or so. For everybody to continues to
Speaker 3: suck on seth Rowlins's ass. You can't then turn around
Speaker 3: and go, well, where's the push for the wrestler that
Speaker 3: I like? It's like, well, that's where it is. It's
Speaker 3: with him. So that's what the main event of SummerSlam
Speaker 3: for night too, meaning like this is the big it's's
Speaker 3: supposed to be Night two, right, the big, big fucking
Speaker 3: it is Roman Reigns and seth rawlins in twenty twenty six. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So if people are confused as to why, like, man,
Speaker 3: why my favorite wrestler the jumped ship if you want
Speaker 3: to even call it that, from aw, they're not being featured,
Speaker 3: they're not being presented in any sort of way. Well,
Speaker 3: because we're still doing the same shit that we did
Speaker 3: six years ago, and going back to Vince having the
Speaker 3: fucking giant Paul White under contract for fifteen goddamn years.
Speaker 3: That's not how wrestling was booked forever and ever. That's
Speaker 3: not how people knew how to set shit up. You
Speaker 3: weren't supposed to be on top for a decade. You
Speaker 3: weren't supposed to be standing in the ring across.
Speaker 1: From Yeah, well I will say no, no, no, but.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like with a romance ath all these people,
Speaker 3: like that's not what's supposed to happen. That Big Show
Speaker 3: wasn't either, but like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But they can always do weird things with Big Show, right,
Speaker 1: So they would make him a fucking comedy character for
Speaker 1: two three years and then all of a sudd and
Speaker 1: somebody would get a bug up their ass and then
Speaker 1: make him angry Paul White angry Big Show. And then
Speaker 1: he'd go out there and he'd accidentally touch like aj
Speaker 1: Lee and then start weeping all over the place, like
Speaker 1: it's just he's not a good person to judge how
Speaker 1: this is supposed to run. And the fact that he's
Speaker 1: still out there in some capacity eating up money from
Speaker 1: a promoter that has that that supposedly is the future
Speaker 1: of wrestling, I don't understand it.
Speaker 3: You know how funny it is to me that I
Speaker 3: actually saw people like this on the seamous video we
Speaker 3: put out, or just randomly I've seen people talking about
Speaker 3: him and you know, well, going to aw why he
Speaker 3: wouldn't go blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: They hired back.
Speaker 3: The Big Show, right, they re signed Big Show.
Speaker 1: Yep, he's worth it. So he's worth it, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I get it.
Speaker 3: It's like it's odd because I remember distinctly saying Seamus
Speaker 3: is not John Cena. He's not even fucking cm punk
Speaker 3: in terms of people see that.
Speaker 1: Jackson is right too, He's like they re signed Andrada.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Oh. I mean then there's a guy who
Speaker 1: literally pissed in your closet before he walked out, and
Speaker 1: you still hired him back.
Speaker 3: And I legitimately like Indrade and I always thought they
Speaker 3: could do more for him and by day, I mean
Speaker 3: just wherever he might have been awwwe, But yeah, this
Speaker 3: is the point of where he w is. Beggars can't
Speaker 3: be choosy, and I know everything that happened last night.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the match. I was telling myself, I
Speaker 3: should have done it today, but I didn't. Where now
Speaker 3: they took the belt off of MJF again and put
Speaker 3: it on fucking Kenny Omega so they can go to
Speaker 3: England and.
Speaker 1: Have future wind.
Speaker 3: And it's just gonna go to will Osprey, who is like,
Speaker 3: is Osprey even where he was or what he was?
Speaker 3: Has Osprey ever actually been actually you know, has he
Speaker 3: ever realized what he's supposed to.
Speaker 1: Be well, I'm in the wrestling world. I'm sure those
Speaker 1: ten thousand people that show I'm sorry those ten people
Speaker 1: that show up, well, really appreciate will Osprey winning the
Speaker 1: title in their in their home.
Speaker 3: Which which that's it is. For whatever, it's worse for
Speaker 3: them to say. Listen, we've been writing down on a
Speaker 3: piece of paper for two three years that will Osprey
Speaker 3: is going to face off against Kenny Omega and the
Speaker 3: fucking you know he's going to do that at Wembley. Now,
Speaker 3: you're just doing the same shit that people get mad
Speaker 3: at ww for, where it's like you just you're married
Speaker 3: to this idea, this match, this thing that has to happen.
Speaker 3: There's no way around it, and it's got to be
Speaker 3: for the belt, and he's got to win the title
Speaker 3: and he's got it. It's like everything else be damned.
Speaker 1: Well. That's the thing too, is there's such brand loyalists
Speaker 1: that they can't see through the fucking bullshit shoe. Look,
Speaker 1: that was one of the things too, and I saw
Speaker 1: a couple articles talking about that. Going back to the
Speaker 1: shamous thing that you brought up was basically criticizing us,
Speaker 1: saying you guys would do no different. You had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with a guy like Seamus, and it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of like I disagreed with that sentiment that we
Speaker 1: couldn't have figured out something to do with Shamus. I
Speaker 1: think Shamus had enough overhead that, you know, I think
Speaker 1: anybody with half a brain could have seen this guy
Speaker 1: and figured out something to do for his exit, something anything,
Speaker 1: like I understand, right, Like how could you keep Shamus relevant?
Speaker 1: Like that was one of the things too. If they
Speaker 1: had Seamus go up against Cody and this was obviously
Speaker 1: when Cody was still the champion, I had Shamus win
Speaker 1: the belt, would anybody have given a shit? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: with the current way that WWE books everything, does anybody
Speaker 1: give a shit about anything? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if you give somebody halfway competent an idea and
Speaker 1: figure out, hey, look, Cody and Seamus, that could be
Speaker 1: some hard hitting matches. Like I mean, everybody goes back
Speaker 1: and they referenced Joe. They always reference Drew McIntyre and Seamus.
Speaker 1: Why do they do that? Because it was probably some
Speaker 1: of the most exciting fucking matches of Shamus and Drew's
Speaker 1: career at that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it happened once again in front of fucking nobody.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well that helped too, is that there was
Speaker 1: nothing else to do other than watch Shamus and Drew
Speaker 1: murder each other out there every week. And I was like,
Speaker 1: but that's why people bring it up. They don't bring
Speaker 1: it up because like all of a sudden, people just discovered, hey,
Speaker 1: Seamous is a star. No, Seamus went out there and tried.
Speaker 1: He had an idea. They both utilized it and went
Speaker 1: out there and did something and nobody expected, which was
Speaker 1: had brutal, fucking matches that exceeded any expectations that we'd
Speaker 1: normally see on a fucking raw. So the idea that oh,
Speaker 1: well it's twenty twenty six, you know, there's nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Shamus anymore. Bullshit. That's short. That's small mind thinking.
Speaker 1: I think with And don't get me wrong again, I'm
Speaker 1: not putting this into the the responsible arms of TKO.
Speaker 1: But they fucked I mean, they fucked up Gunther and
Speaker 1: Sina right like they fucked up AJ Gunther and AJ
Speaker 1: like they've they've they've really had a bad time with
Speaker 1: this retirement bit. But I still think that there's room,
Speaker 1: there's wiggle room with a guy who's at least charismatic
Speaker 1: like Shamus, who's really come into himself in his final years.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Joe, do you wonder, and this is again
Speaker 1: piggybacking off the shame of stuff? Do you worry about
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to Orton when he leaves his company? Oh? God,
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I think that Randy Orton just threw his overall ba
Speaker 3: or or his overall attitude that he puts out into
Speaker 3: the world. He's gotta already come to peace with the
Speaker 3: fact that whenever this shit ends, it's not gonna end. Well,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, he's got to already
Speaker 3: have dealt with the fact that, you know what, I
Speaker 3: have been here for a quarter of a century. I've
Speaker 3: given my entire adult life to this company, and I'm
Speaker 3: probably gonna walk out with the equivalent of a sheet
Speaker 3: cake and a handshake. And to some extent, I see
Speaker 3: where the corporate mindset once again comes into it. Like
Speaker 3: I said, she does she?
Speaker 2: She?
Speaker 3: Well, no, does she take in the fucking handshake?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? To them, do they see it as are we
Speaker 3: investing in something that is on the way out as
Speaker 3: opposed to can we get any use out of this,
Speaker 3: you know, employee. What we have the time here, can
Speaker 3: we create some moments? Can we make some sort of impact,
Speaker 3: whether it be just with the general wrestling audience or
Speaker 3: on a bigger scale. I mean, the scene of retirement
Speaker 3: had no impact really in the mainstream outside of some
Speaker 3: shit on you ESPN Randy Orton. For all of his
Speaker 3: memory and everything that he has done, and the millions
Speaker 3: of people who've been exposed to him as a wrestler
Speaker 3: for twenty something years, you would think that they could
Speaker 3: do something with that. Am I expecting them too? Though? No, No,
Speaker 3: I'm expecting them to absolutely bungle that, And yes I
Speaker 3: get it where it's like, well, Randy Orton once again,
Speaker 3: nkfe Banda just perception wise is a much much bigger
Speaker 3: star than even a guy like Seamus was. But it's
Speaker 3: it's such a simple story of a guy who's older.
Speaker 3: He's the baby face. You can't do it anymore. He's
Speaker 3: the beaten down, fucking dog. He still can be presented
Speaker 3: as tough. I've been here through everything, and you know,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. You do that for three months,
Speaker 3: people act like you want this to headline Madison Square garden.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, you just tell it quick, little couple
Speaker 3: month's story and to try to builk some emotion out
Speaker 3: of people. As shitty as it sounds, but that's what
Speaker 3: wrestling is. You're supposed to try to get people to
Speaker 3: feel a little something, get something out of it. I mean,
Speaker 3: with Seth Rollins doing his weird improv fucking crowd work
Speaker 3: shit on Monday, that's what he was going for, and
Speaker 3: it sucked fucking ass because he doesn't know what he's doing.
Speaker 3: I might I don't have many of these main events
Speaker 3: ahead of me, all right, SE's sure, right, all right,
Speaker 3: this is what I dreamed about doing when I was
Speaker 3: a little boy. That's not no one gives a fuck.
Speaker 3: That's not genuine. But if you have someone who's almost
Speaker 3: fifty years old, they say I've been injured all the time.
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, can you believe with the way
Speaker 3: that they fucking move that Intercontinental Championship around, they didn't
Speaker 3: even try to just give them the fucking Icy title
Speaker 3: and then get them out the door. Ye believe they
Speaker 3: didn't do that, put the Icy title on him and
Speaker 3: then have him face off against any fucking make it
Speaker 3: fucking Ethan Page for all I care where Seamus has
Speaker 3: the belt. I finally won the Intercontinental Championship, and then
Speaker 3: a guy like I said, even an eaton page comes
Speaker 3: out and says, all right, well how about this. If
Speaker 3: I can't beat you for that, then I fucking leave WWE.
Speaker 3: If you've beat and then you gotta go. And then
Speaker 3: that's how you let Seamus leave, as opposed to just
Speaker 3: what walk out the fucking door.
Speaker 1: It's just with nothing, well nothing, rustling soup. I'm Anthony Thomas,
Speaker 1: He's Joseph, he numbers and uh yeah, another Thursday is
Speaker 1: in the books. And here we are too kind of
Speaker 1: gripe about the direction of things, Like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of little news that has happened, and I know we were
Speaker 1: talking on Tuesday that there was a lot of news
Speaker 1: going on, but it seems like the Seamous overhang is
Speaker 1: still something very important in the minds of a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Because I really strongly believe Eve that even
Speaker 1: though Seamus's agent is is kind of working everybody on
Speaker 1: Twitter and stuff saying that Tony Kahan needs to unblock
Speaker 1: them and every other silly thing that's going on there,
Speaker 1: I really think that that's where he's gonna show up,
Speaker 1: and if anything, I'm expecting Seams to perhaps show up
Speaker 1: and all in at Wembley.
Speaker 3: Oh would that be too soon though?
Speaker 1: Is it not? Does he even care about the ninety
Speaker 1: days anymore? Like? I know that's a good boy. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a Vince thing. Vince Vince got all hurt
Speaker 1: about those things. Kes like, we don't fucking care. Who
Speaker 1: are we fighting with the Cheese Whiz Company?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fuck out of here? Whatever.
Speaker 3: I think to myself though, if they're gonna do the
Speaker 3: Wembley thing, it's more than likely gonna be New Day.
Speaker 3: That seems like, Yeah, I'm not saying TNA is not
Speaker 3: above or TNA forty and slip aw is not above
Speaker 3: debuting five fucking wrestlers on one night. They're not above that.
Speaker 3: But I can see them doing that and having it
Speaker 3: be that's what happens at Wembley, and then that next Wednesday,
Speaker 3: you know what's Seamus O'Shaughnessy doing in the aw zone reckon.
Speaker 3: I could see that becoming a thing, and it's just
Speaker 3: I don't know. It makes me laugh because everybody goes, well,
Speaker 3: you know, the New Day is going to show up there,
Speaker 3: and then they can have matches with the Young Bucks
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh hooray uh and that seems to
Speaker 3: be yeah, wooh oh Young Bucks are right?
Speaker 1: Do we just have the New Day loses seth for
Speaker 1: a few months like that? Fuck?
Speaker 3: Can you picture just somebody who's the person that's sitting
Speaker 3: like sitting on the couch right, and then the music
Speaker 3: the lights go out on a Young Bucks promo and
Speaker 3: then the New Days stand in the ring, right because
Speaker 3: obviously life's gotta go out and then come back on.
Speaker 3: They stand up from their couch and they go, yeah, fuck, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: the Young Bucks a New Day. Yeah, can you imagine
Speaker 3: that fucking person.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not even just that even if you had
Speaker 1: younger Bucks, like what what do you what are you
Speaker 1: doing with this feud? Like what can you possibly do
Speaker 1: with this feud?
Speaker 3: The same thing they.
Speaker 1: Did with FDR.
Speaker 3: They'll just trade wins for fucking two or three years.
Speaker 1: That's all it will be.
Speaker 3: And we'll see Kofi Kingston fall on some thumbtacks, probably
Speaker 3: get super kicked with the thumb tack shoe. It's like,
Speaker 3: I don't fucking the more than.
Speaker 1: Streighter says that people actually enjoy the Young Bucks matches
Speaker 1: like that's an actual thing, the same way that people
Speaker 1: enjoy singing along with Seth's entrance. It's a novelty, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not something that they're going to go home
Speaker 1: and dream about and think, man, what that What an
Speaker 1: amazing match that old young Matt and Trey put out
Speaker 1: there all like, yeah, Matt and Trey. Nobody's thinking that,
Speaker 1: Like young Bucks matches in twenty twenty six are like
Speaker 1: a flashback episode of when you know Russeley was fun.
Speaker 1: It's that's what it.
Speaker 3: Is, from a decade ago when with the NDEs and
Speaker 3: when it was hot for thirty seconds, right, dude. We
Speaker 3: got to remember, as you know, obviously the trends are
Speaker 3: going to hit us a little bit later because we're
Speaker 3: fucking grown ups, right, and somebody's probably already going to
Speaker 3: hear me say this and go, well, this has already
Speaker 3: moved past internet trends or whatever. But I remember a
Speaker 3: couple of months ago where the big thing was it's
Speaker 3: two thousand and sixteen, Like the kids online were like,
Speaker 3: we're nostalgic for two two thousand and sixteen. The world,
Speaker 3: the world in the in the past.
Speaker 1: We were we were already six years into our show
Speaker 1: and sick of it.
Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, yeah, we were already making fun. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: were fucking making fun of TNA pay per views of that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But like that's like two thousand and sixteen. I was
Speaker 3: seeing ship where it was like, we're putting two thousand
Speaker 3: and sixteen filters on our photographs. I'm like two thousand
Speaker 3: and six like remember the history of that. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: I sell shiit.
Speaker 1: Look I know, in total segue, I sell shit that's
Speaker 1: from two thousand and six and I have to put
Speaker 1: vintage on it. Yeah, And I'm just like.
Speaker 3: Ugh, and you're and you're saying, whoa, look at this,
Speaker 3: this is vintage. But then you also realize that mish
Speaker 3: right around at time is when the Young Bucks were
Speaker 3: doing PWG.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 3: So right, yeah, that's how long ago this shit has
Speaker 3: been going on. For it, it's the same fucking thing.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. I still remain in some sort
Speaker 3: of state of shock and confusion, and it may actually
Speaker 3: make me think that prayer has some value. That the
Speaker 3: young Bucks are never hurt. How are these guys never hurt?
Speaker 3: They've been doing stupid fucking shit to themselves. They don't
Speaker 3: for twenty years.
Speaker 1: They're not John Moxley, Joe, come on, no, but there's
Speaker 1: a bit of Darby Allen come on, flips.
Speaker 3: To the outside and landing on their ass and the
Speaker 3: fucking concrete and doing stuff.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to tell me that Jesus has come
Speaker 1: down from heaven to protect Matt and Trey Parker. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's maybe that's it. Maybe that's what it is, Like
Speaker 1: I said that, maybe there's something to that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because how are these fucking guys never for ever hurt.
Speaker 1: Biggie had a whole career, got injured and laughed, and
Speaker 1: the young bucks are still going. Who does Biggie worship?
Speaker 1: We need to find out which which demon or god
Speaker 1: that Biggie bows to, and like avoid that one, you know, Biggie.
Speaker 3: Biggie's sitting there with his sitting in the back with
Speaker 3: his trombone and fucking unicorn horn on his head and
Speaker 3: he's just like, I want to thank Ball before we
Speaker 3: have this match, showed out to all the demons and hell.
Speaker 1: Ho six lay.
Speaker 3: Rich Holland went to throw him and Jesus smacked him
Speaker 3: out of the air like the can be Matumbo.
Speaker 1: What happened by this said?
Speaker 3: Not for this demon being allowed to wrestle. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it makes no fucking sense. I know. It's the dream
Speaker 3: match nostalgia. That's crazy. I never thought i'd see this happen.
Speaker 3: I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true, but I've heard
Speaker 1: this that, like, you know, people born in the South
Speaker 1: have more rubbery skeletons because of all the inbreeding.
Speaker 3: Well, they're from the Come on, dude, they're from California.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're from the South with California. Let's be honest.
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, true, Yeah, they're like weird Mormon people
Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know what they are, but they
Speaker 3: just enough enough already. Like I said, it's just it's
Speaker 3: funny to me to imagine going, oh, okay, why would
Speaker 3: they want a Shamous in there. I don't even give
Speaker 3: a shit about ninety nine percent of the AW roster,
Speaker 3: and I can think of five matches without even trying that.
Speaker 3: I go, Seamous would have a good match with that person,
Speaker 3: You'd have a good match with Swerve, He'd have a
Speaker 3: fucking good match with JF Dare I even say he
Speaker 3: might be able to drag a decent match out of
Speaker 3: the fucking shithead cowboy.
Speaker 1: I think Seamus could have a good match where Darby
Speaker 1: falls off of things, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that Seamus could remind Darby
Speaker 3: that at one point he was capable of wrestling.
Speaker 1: Well, you know that would be The funny thing too,
Speaker 1: is Darby does all this shit. He sets up barbed
Speaker 1: wire flatboards in the corner, He gets a table out
Speaker 1: and he puts some thumbtacks spikes on it. He lights
Speaker 1: it on fire, and he comes up to Seamus and
Speaker 1: Shamus just punches him in the fucking mouth and drops
Speaker 1: him right there. It doesn't just just one fucking punch
Speaker 1: drops him ends the match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I like street Fighter put that in
Speaker 3: there too. Him and a younger guy like Brody King.
Speaker 3: He could teach a guy like Brody King. Remember when
Speaker 3: we were saying Big Show's got nobody that.
Speaker 1: He you forget show. The young guys don't listen to
Speaker 1: the old guy's in aw, that's true. So I mean,
Speaker 1: like you're at this Catch twenty two, Yeah, you want
Speaker 1: to bring in this guy who still has a lot
Speaker 1: left to give, and if he can't do it physically,
Speaker 1: he sure can do it through experience and wisdom. Oh,
Speaker 1: but nobody wants to listen to him because he's a
Speaker 1: WWE guy and he happens to be older. Fantastic, good
Speaker 1: luck with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is how we know that this shit's
Speaker 3: going to ever get better. By the way, I will
Speaker 3: say after having I didn't see the match that MJF
Speaker 3: had last night with Kenny o'meg, I just I can't
Speaker 3: give a slight fuck.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what the thing's going to be.
Speaker 3: But at this point, is MJF so revered and put
Speaker 3: on a pedestal just due to the fact that he's
Speaker 3: probably the only person in aw it found a way
Speaker 3: to get a little bit better every year in spite
Speaker 3: of nobody else.
Speaker 1: Fucking I don't think that's ever improving. I think he
Speaker 1: just gets notoriety. I think the MGF is the one
Speaker 1: guy besides Tony Kahan that his name gets thrown around
Speaker 1: everywhere if you seriously, look, Joe, We've gone at least
Speaker 1: thirty minutes now talking about the show, and we haven't
Speaker 1: stopped once to talk about the fact that Jungle Jack
Speaker 1: Perry has officially re signed with the Hate.
Speaker 3: Oh he was holding out on that. I thought they
Speaker 3: were pulling a Mitch McConnell with him and just I mean,
Speaker 3: I know the kid's brain dead, but I thought that's
Speaker 3: what they were doing. They're just gonna wait out his contract.
Speaker 3: Have us think that he doesn't wrestle there anymore? Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: Thank fucking god, that Jungle Boys back there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's created. Is like nobody gives his shit.
Speaker 1: They've been pushing this for weeks, like I think it's
Speaker 1: an aw push. It's obviously melts are putting it out
Speaker 1: in the ether too, but like for weeks, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: his Jungle Boy gonna sign of course he is. Where
Speaker 1: the fuck else is he gonna go?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 1: What is he gonna do?
Speaker 3: Act?
Speaker 1: He can't fucking act in aw you gonna want to
Speaker 1: put him on a screen, There's.
Speaker 3: No it's like no personality. Here's five ft six, Yeah,
Speaker 3: where the fuck is he going? That's that is amazing
Speaker 3: to think about. It's quite literally just the most fucking
Speaker 3: bottom of the barrel. It's like when you see the
Speaker 3: ship come up on your Instagram feed of somebody who's
Speaker 3: on like the practice squad for your team, and they're like,
Speaker 3: best wishes to this guy, You're like, I don't know
Speaker 3: the fuck that is, right. I go, Oh, don't worry, man,
Speaker 3: he's gonna get picked up by this person. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: he's no, he's probably not. He's probably going to work
Speaker 3: at the fucking Honda dealership. That's not where he's going. Like,
Speaker 3: and maybe he'll end up in a practice squad somewhere else.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right, Like, where the fuck is Jungle
Speaker 3: Boy going. If he's like I'm gonna hold out with
Speaker 3: a w where who's taking him?
Speaker 1: No one, the biggest small guy in TNA. Like, look, dude,
Speaker 1: it's just that's what I'm saying when you bring up AW.
Speaker 1: And I mean people could talk about how famous will
Speaker 1: Osprey is and maybe maybe maybe John Moxley, But I
Speaker 1: really think that when AW comes up in casual conversation,
Speaker 1: it's only Tony Conn and MJF. That's it. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I don't think MGF is getting better. I just think
Speaker 1: his name is notorious notoriety. Sorry not yeah, sorry?
Speaker 3: By better, should I should really I should clarify what
Speaker 3: I mean by that he has at least not regressed
Speaker 3: to the point where it's highly visible and he hasn't
Speaker 3: completely shown his ass as somebody that's not worth anything,
Speaker 3: and to the point that there's still people and a
Speaker 3: lot of you know, old time WWE wrestlers. I think
Speaker 3: it was like fucking gender Mahal or somebody someone recently
Speaker 3: put which you know, big star. It was like, will
Speaker 3: be the future of w W if he goes there?
Speaker 3: And I saw that, and I thought to myself, I go,
Speaker 3: m JF, would be the future of w W if
Speaker 3: you went there? Well, first of all, not Samoan uh,
Speaker 3: second of all five, six, third of all, Well's.
Speaker 1: Dying, who's dying to give? He could be?
Speaker 3: So I saw he's of a tribe that is true.
Speaker 1: No, no, I mean I legit mean that. I mean
Speaker 1: there's I saw a picture with three lovely Samoan ladies.
Speaker 1: I believe it was Ava rain Naya Jackson, Rock's ex wife.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he has his pick from to get into
Speaker 1: the family if you will.
Speaker 3: Do you think that there's just like shindy guys somewhere
Speaker 3: that found out the Rock's daughter was gay, and we're like,
Speaker 3: damn it, that could have been my end.
Speaker 1: You know, you could put on a WI.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's it is. Maybe that's the next step. Is
Speaker 3: some some gal, some indie wrestling gal is gonna glom
Speaker 3: onto fucking rock shitty, talentless daughter, and they'll be like,
Speaker 3: that'll be hurrying, you know, but I'm you know, what
Speaker 3: the funny thing is is, I'm also kind of okay
Speaker 3: with that because that's what uh, that's what wrestling has
Speaker 3: been doing.
Speaker 1: You know, guys have been doing that with women for years.
Speaker 1: It's about time that women can do it with women.
Speaker 3: So yeah, right, yeah, yeah, it's a lady.
Speaker 1: Ladies, it's your chance. Do your dance.
Speaker 3: Get in there, get in there, start chomping. Yea, you
Speaker 3: you fucking you chomp your way to a better life.
Speaker 3: I'm not judging you. I think that's fucking great. I
Speaker 3: like to see it. I mean I like to see it,
Speaker 3: but I also like to see it. Uh No, I
Speaker 3: don't know, dude, this it's funny to me that MJF
Speaker 3: could potentially be, like I said, who's dying because right
Speaker 3: now it seems like they're completely unwilling. I'll shake this
Speaker 3: fucking tree like Punk will leave on his own accord.
Speaker 3: I feel like at this point, who else.
Speaker 1: Well, what did he call it? The champ Tours? Shit
Speaker 1: is what he put ups on Yeah, he's got like
Speaker 1: a picture of all the days he's working as a
Speaker 1: champion now, Like I think is doing this so on
Speaker 1: the nose that if you don't understand that he's going
Speaker 1: through motions right now, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's kinda he's getting ready to go and as he should.
Speaker 1: You know what if you take everything for face value
Speaker 1: news wise that has come up about Punk over the
Speaker 1: last few months, you know, his disappearance, whether you believe
Speaker 1: it was because of riot or not, or because he
Speaker 1: was unhappy about aj Lee all of a sudden kind
Speaker 1: of getting the the side shuffle out of the company
Speaker 1: when she wanted to come back after all that time,
Speaker 1: Like that alone, how can you not believe that would
Speaker 1: piss piss somebody off? Right, Like, my wife hasn't wrestled
Speaker 1: in twenty years, fifteen years, or whatever the fuck it was.
Speaker 1: Now she wants to come back and wrestle, and you
Speaker 1: guys are like, ah, yeah, here's a month, here's a
Speaker 1: couple of months with Becky. Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 3: We'll give you the safest, most mundane kind of shit.
Speaker 1: They didn't even give her anything as far as like
Speaker 1: a storyline and stuff. I always felt like with aj
Speaker 1: Lee with a lot of these wrestlers in WWE. She's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, guys, you know what to say? Just
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just go yeah, I just just ham
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, Jesus Christ jay Uso is the
Speaker 1: king of that ship with his aura farming. He's just
Speaker 1: going out there as a whole. Can you play my
Speaker 1: entrance fourteen more times?
Speaker 3: That's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Stop it. And the fucking people keep eating this up.
Speaker 1: No wonder TKO is taking all of our fucking money.
Speaker 3: Right, They're fine with just looking at it and going, well,
Speaker 3: they'll fucking give them anything, they'll eat anything.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not about developing storylines and shows and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's about squeezing as much time as they
Speaker 1: can with sponsorships until they hit whatever they need in
Speaker 1: order to go off the air. That's it. Whether it's
Speaker 1: more and more ads in the ring, or more and
Speaker 1: more ads on TV, or just even talking about it
Speaker 1: on the Announced team, or just everything is about them
Speaker 1: making another dollar. And at no point do they look
Speaker 1: at their actual talents. At least this is how I
Speaker 1: perceive it now, And no point does it feel like
Speaker 1: they're looking at their actual talents. Oh that's where the
Speaker 1: money comes from They don't feel like that anymore. Tk's like, no,
Speaker 1: the money comes from the ring mat. That's what's making
Speaker 1: us the money. The money's coming from uh, seth Rollins
Speaker 1: eating a slim gym. That's where the money's coming, Not
Speaker 1: from Seth Rollins actually having a decent storyline in a match,
Speaker 1: not from guys like La Knight who literally garner attention
Speaker 1: and have people that want to see him succeed. No,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make money. Those are just the things in
Speaker 1: between the things that make us money, you know, commercials.
Speaker 3: And this is it all goes back to. And I
Speaker 3: think I was talking to John about this the other day.
Speaker 3: I can't remember what he was around. He might have
Speaker 3: been talking about the fucking whatever. It was a super
Speaker 3: Girl movie or something. I'm like, it's the it's the
Speaker 3: inshitification of everything by big companies, which is now their
Speaker 3: idea is not that we're gonna we're gonna tap dance
Speaker 3: for you. Look, we're doing a thing. Thank you, sir,
Speaker 3: have a nice day. Like they're not even approaching you
Speaker 3: from that level there, looking at you like you're getting
Speaker 3: between the money that they owe you. Yeah, Like, how
Speaker 3: what the what are these fucking people complaining about, oh oh,
Speaker 3: there's an entire rat in their pancake. The fucking what
Speaker 3: scoop it out, throw it out of the way, just
Speaker 3: eat the rat pancake. Like that's where we have gotten to,
Speaker 3: like with all the talk about like fan entitlement and
Speaker 3: this person's entitled or blah blah blah blah blah. No
Speaker 3: one's talking about how we've completely or nobody in wrestling.
Speaker 3: I feel like, at least I haven't seen they're not
Speaker 3: talking about the entitlement of like corporatism to where it's
Speaker 3: just fuck you eat it.
Speaker 1: Well, because nobody fights it. Everybody does bowls over. For example,
Speaker 1: Dan Housen. Dan Housen's the next one up that is
Speaker 1: absolutely part of the corporate machine. He would have been
Speaker 1: a one and done joke in the Vince McMahon era
Speaker 1: of wrestling, but with TKO and his connection with the
Speaker 1: NBA and the Knicks and stuff. So apparently, WWE has
Speaker 1: invited several members of the twenty twenty six NBA champion
Speaker 1: New York Knicks is the Saturday Night's main event on
Speaker 1: July eighteenth. Everybody, multiple New York Knicks players are expected
Speaker 1: to be there, which makes sense after WWE already leaned
Speaker 1: into Dan Housen's whole uncursed the nixt story for the
Speaker 1: MSG show. The bigger wrinkle is Jelen Brunso Brunson, sorry
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ's yeah, Brunso JEBRISI. I guess he has a
Speaker 1: role at Saturday Night's main event with several creative pitchers
Speaker 1: pitches involving Dan Housen. This would be the payoff after
Speaker 1: dan Housen became part of the next title run by
Speaker 1: uncursing the team. The problem is his wrist. WWE was
Speaker 1: told that his risk was undergoing surgery, which took any
Speaker 1: physical involvement off the table, but they later reported that
Speaker 1: he had an injury after playing to the next championship.
Speaker 1: So anyways, that's what it's going to be. So now
Speaker 1: all of the Bears in WrestleMania, what was it too,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have the Knicks invade invade the WWE Saturday
Speaker 1: Night's main event.
Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you this, at least the people
Speaker 3: in New York are gonna fucking love it. They'll be
Speaker 3: happy that that crowd that city. As somebody who's from Boston,
Speaker 3: I can't take away from the fact that the people
Speaker 3: in New York City do legitimately love and support them.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that because I remember it
Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago that we were talking about Tom
Speaker 1: Brady getting involved with WWE, and you kind of sucked
Speaker 1: your teeth on that one.
Speaker 3: Well, the difference is in that situation is Tom Brady
Speaker 3: is like almost fifty and there is also God love him.
Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean, I do, I know, I
Speaker 1: know you do.
Speaker 3: But he's not missed a personality. That's just a fact.
Speaker 3: Like the way people well Tom Brady. Like for all
Speaker 3: the things that people shoot on Tom Brady about, right
Speaker 3: if he wears gay shoes and kissed his son and
Speaker 3: he's a cheater, and I'm like, yeah, but can we
Speaker 3: at least just focus on one thing, which is that
Speaker 3: he's kind of just a boring dude. Like he's he's
Speaker 3: great when he's talking about fitness and motivation and telling
Speaker 3: stories about games and stuff, and it's like, all right,
Speaker 3: he's pretty good in that he's not a riveting storyteller. WWE.
Speaker 1: It's not like you're going to sit down and do
Speaker 1: his shoot interview with Tom Brady in the middle of
Speaker 1: rustle Mania. It was I know, but could you?
Speaker 3: But like, honest to God, And this is where it's
Speaker 3: one of those things where it's like you have to
Speaker 3: colin balls and strikes in this moment right where if
Speaker 3: I I'm looking at that and I'm going as somebody
Speaker 3: that spent as many hours in a wrestling ring as
Speaker 3: I did, and then somebody that's washed as much Tom
Speaker 3: Brady in their life as I have, I'm picturing I'm
Speaker 3: picturing Tom Brady trying to do a body slam and
Speaker 3: then afterwards believably being hyped up, and it literally tightens
Speaker 3: my asshole in embarrassment, Like I'm just like imagining like,
Speaker 3: oh no, oh.
Speaker 1: Uh no, he can't do that.
Speaker 3: Rob Gronkowski, sure, sure, even goofy like a Travis Kelcey goofball,
Speaker 3: Like could he get away with that?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 3: Kittle fucking the second to Kittle's done playing in the NFL,
Speaker 3: we'll see him on WWE television semi regular that I
Speaker 3: can almost I mean, if I could put on my
Speaker 3: Genie fucking hat and say that, that's a pretty safe prediction.
Speaker 3: But Brady's just not He's not missed a personality like that.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't The wrestling thing wouldn't work for him, you know,
Speaker 3: Shannon Sharp, Yeah, you could have done it.
Speaker 1: I have done that.
Speaker 3: Menagine him standing there and he's just yelling. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: No, I would have loved it if he was just
Speaker 1: in the back of like Kathy Kelly, and then his
Speaker 1: phone is down and you know, I did realized I
Speaker 1: was broadcasting, you know, Kathy. I'll be right back.
Speaker 3: I gotta go text a girl. It's not even drinking
Speaker 3: age what I mean. Yep.
Speaker 1: Kathy Kelly just looks at us. She's just like, no, No,
Speaker 1: I met the one that's he got caught with. He
Speaker 1: was fucking her live on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Oh that was a different yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot
Speaker 3: about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, that's a I don't know how to
Speaker 1: work my phone wink like you know.
Speaker 3: You know what, first of all, our truth handled that brilliantly.
Speaker 3: I remember his comments on it were sucking hilarious. Well
Speaker 3: it was, but also maybe this is just this is
Speaker 3: just my opinion on it. I wouldn't want anybody in
Speaker 3: the general public to bear witnesses to be fucking It's
Speaker 3: just not a.
Speaker 1: Well they didn't see it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know.
Speaker 3: I know, but this way, this way, I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: them to see it, but I almost less we want them.
Speaker 1: To hear it, to hear they're.
Speaker 3: Seeing it in applying context and then also being like
Speaker 3: I don't want to watch this and they're turning it off.
Speaker 3: That's almost better than them hearing you make your fuck
Speaker 3: noises and use your voice like it's just.
Speaker 1: Like, honey, why are you randomly punching the wall? Shut up?
Speaker 3: Like you really think about that, as somebody in your
Speaker 3: entire fucking adult life has recorded your voice and heard
Speaker 3: your voice and heard people listen to it, right, just
Speaker 3: whatever would you? Would you almost rather have to see
Speaker 3: you fucking for five five cent seconds ago. I'm not
Speaker 3: interested in this and turning it off or hearing your
Speaker 3: hearing this say to well fucking and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm leaving the sun because this is hilarious. You see
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like it's almost it's one of those
Speaker 3: weird moments where somehow visually that would be less intimate
Speaker 3: than them hearing you. It doesn't make sense in any
Speaker 3: other context, but in that it does to me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, maybe I'm maybe I'm insane. I
Speaker 3: could possibly be it. But then again, what do I know?
Speaker 3: I just think that Seamus could contribute something to w
Speaker 3: Jungle Boy, ain't gonta do much for you? I mean
Speaker 3: tom Brady has more personality than Jungle Boy. That's is
Speaker 3: that a ring endorsement of my goat? I mean that
Speaker 3: he could probably cut a better.
Speaker 1: But did Tom Brady land a multi year contract with
Speaker 1: aw Joe? I mean, I don't know that's a good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, he's no Big Show. What the dude? And I
Speaker 1: go back to that, what the fuck is Big Show's vision?
Speaker 1: I mean, it is his vision in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that?
Speaker 3: His vision is him looking out his back portrait his pool,
Speaker 3: going I don't have to work anymore.
Speaker 1: I think that's what his vision is.
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't see in this situation other
Speaker 3: than we just are all supposed to kind of do
Speaker 3: the tip of the hat and just go take the
Speaker 3: rich kids money. I think that's what we're all supposed
Speaker 3: to disagree on that we just go, sorry, picture.
Speaker 1: Just take the money. Just take us money, dude, It's okay.
Speaker 3: Like if he signed Kurt Angle tomorrow and paid Kurt
Speaker 3: Angle two million dollars to not show up. I'd be like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm not gonna say anything. I'll just keep
Speaker 3: I'll just keep that to myself, you know. But at least,
Speaker 3: like we said earlier in that situation, whereas he was,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to pay Kurt Angle to come
Speaker 3: in and coach my talent. Okay, at least that like
Speaker 3: you can't say to me in this you know twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six that Kurt Angle couldn't comprehend the idea of
Speaker 3: like a spot Monkey ex Division type wrestler. He absolutely
Speaker 3: he could help them way more than a fucking So that's.
Speaker 1: A good look. Lifer put up a picture of Big Show.
Speaker 1: I guess that's a current picture. Why why is he
Speaker 1: getting in shape for what? To not die?
Speaker 3: I think that's it.
Speaker 1: I is that just he's trying to not die.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's and it sounds so dark, but it's
Speaker 3: the he's these exact words have come out of his
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: But if this is going on, if this is going
Speaker 1: on wrestling sites and stuff, that's not just Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to stay healthy for my family and my kids,
Speaker 1: and you know I love my future. It's this is hey,
Speaker 1: look at me, Look at what I'm doing. I'm getting
Speaker 1: back into the spotlight. Give me attention.
Speaker 3: Now. Look I'm jacked. Look how jacked I am, which
Speaker 3: I have no pride, you know, would be proud of
Speaker 3: your hard work or any of that ship. But also
Speaker 3: I still think if you've got money now in time
Speaker 3: and you don't, you can't pull that off as a man.
Speaker 1: Kind of on you.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, go get go to the fucking go
Speaker 3: to the fucking nut killer doctor. Go get yourself some tests.
Speaker 1: Is there an Adam Sandler movie coming around? Is that?
Speaker 1: What's like the movie about Captain and Santa was finally landing.
Speaker 3: Right, There's an Adam Sandler movie coming around, and big
Speaker 3: show with it. It's actually gonna be a They're gonna
Speaker 3: do a direct remake of the Taylor Swifts wedding.
Speaker 1: The big Show is going to re enact as Epstein.
Speaker 1: Uh yes, yes is christ No.
Speaker 3: By the way, do you know that whole thing that
Speaker 3: happened at mad Speaking of Madison Square Garden, I guess
Speaker 3: they're fucking Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey got married. Yes,
Speaker 3: at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a beautiful place to have a wedding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesus Christ. I try to. I try to like
Speaker 3: not engage with anything with her because it's just so
Speaker 3: not you can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you do, Joe, You're gonna get sued, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that that blow my mind, right, Like reselling shit.
Speaker 1: Finding out that all these all these little fans, all
Speaker 1: these Taylor Swift, these Swifties that make up like little
Speaker 1: shirts and little hair bands and little posters of Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: and they resell them online. She sues the shit out
Speaker 1: of every single fucking one of them. She regularly cruises Etsy.
Speaker 1: Etsy is like the eBay for children that eat fucking glue. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's what Etsy is. And she just cruises it on
Speaker 1: her days off and just sends cease and desist to
Speaker 1: all these fucking fans of hers, and soon the ship
Speaker 1: out of them.
Speaker 3: She is such a like I said, I try to
Speaker 3: avoid speaking on her because it's just not culturally my
Speaker 3: lane at all, and she has a cult and it's
Speaker 3: fucking weird, but it is amazing the level of once again,
Speaker 3: like the billionaire contempt for the little man, right, Like
Speaker 3: you said, there, Look, I made a I made a
Speaker 3: Chalor Swift ear rings She's like, fock you how much?
Speaker 1: I just I just want four dollars for them, just
Speaker 1: just to make up for the safety pins and glue.
Speaker 3: I want you a money copy. It really is just rich,
Speaker 3: stoless ghold behavior from somebody who people are like, this
Speaker 3: is their entire life like this, there's just completely madly
Speaker 3: in love with this woman.
Speaker 1: Do you think Jimmanuel just listens to Taylor Swift and goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's figuring out.
Speaker 3: I think I think he looks at her business model
Speaker 3: and it's.
Speaker 1: Like get it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Only if only I could come up with this, you know,
Speaker 3: like the level of jealousy you must have as like
Speaker 3: one of these fucking corporo ghrules where you see it
Speaker 3: is just go and they just keep giving it to her. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he'd give it her the money. And like, by the way,
Speaker 3: she got married, if I remember correctly, somebody pointed this
Speaker 3: out to me. She got married the day before the
Speaker 3: fourth of July in New York City, which is just
Speaker 3: you're causing problems for everybody. But this just looks at
Speaker 3: the same way in wrestling, where everything's a fucking con
Speaker 3: and it's all set up for the next thing. It's
Speaker 3: like so all you're telling me is when this inevitable
Speaker 3: divorce happens, her album will be called Independence Day. That's
Speaker 3: that's what I'm picking up on. Where it's like.
Speaker 1: I got married on the third, as you.
Speaker 3: Like, and then the next day I was free, like
Speaker 3: you just you can just picture this happening. Uh, good one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they're getting married in Madison Square. Guard I
Speaker 3: was like, get them, you got it.
Speaker 1: You know what I didn't know how else was gay?
Speaker 1: I guess you know, you learned something new every day. Joe.
Speaker 3: Well you know, this is the funny thing in this situation.
Speaker 3: If Travis Kelcey was gay and this was an elaborate
Speaker 3: scheme for him to just keep plowing away and not
Speaker 3: get caught, this is that's like brilliant to the level
Speaker 3: of like the Republican congressman that has his beard wife.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I'm not a fucking guy. I'm not
Speaker 3: a fucking gay guy. Like look at this over here,
Speaker 3: Like he's if he puts into the world, I am
Speaker 3: married to the most important, super special girl that has
Speaker 3: ever existed. He could never ever ever cheat on her
Speaker 3: with a woman.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's just hanging out with with football
Speaker 1: fans guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he's the guys.
Speaker 1: He's working out in the locker room with some of
Speaker 1: the football fans. Yeah, go Kansas.
Speaker 3: Please don't need any Skyline chili before the meetup.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about Harry Swift. She is scientologists.
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about Biggie literally not. But
Speaker 1: you do think with the level of cloud that she has,
Speaker 1: she could just take that ship right from Tom Cruise,
Speaker 1: couldn't she? That is? Oh yeah, she really could. She
Speaker 1: could make in there Scientology away from Tom Cruise and
Speaker 1: become the god of all these people, these scientologists too.
Speaker 3: Could you that would.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if her lawyers and Scientology's lawyers joined together.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, that would be megazor Godzillivan wrote in the.
Speaker 1: Form of lawsuits.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, you're just sitting there and he looks
Speaker 3: at you and they just go So, let's see if
Speaker 3: we can get this right. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3: Slander campaign online?
Speaker 4: Me too.
Speaker 3: We weren't going to do that as well.
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do after that? What do you think?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Send a private investigator to drudge up every single thing
Speaker 3: that they've ever done or said. That's what I was thinking, too,
Speaker 3: this is perfect.
Speaker 1: Yes, the lawyers, thank you shadow Yes.
Speaker 3: And then and then well, she's do all this evil
Speaker 3: shit is happening. You scant over to the next room,
Speaker 3: and it's just her being like, it's so hot.
Speaker 4: Be in tenth grade, it's so hot. Be wait, old
Speaker 4: girl who doesn't do anything wrong. Ever, I'm a good widow, baby,
Speaker 4: I'm a good girl.
Speaker 3: Then they shoot back over and they're like, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: put them in the casket. You put them in the casket,
Speaker 3: and you seal it with concrete and then you just
Speaker 3: bury it. And you know, listen, they're never going to
Speaker 3: be able to watch that seventies show ever again.
Speaker 1: What I'm thinking of a different way. I think what
Speaker 1: you do at that point is you just have her
Speaker 1: in Scientology by Disney, and once she has control of Disney,
Speaker 1: then instead of having all the God messages, you can
Speaker 1: put the Xenu messages and everything. You can have Scientology
Speaker 1: in there. And everybody that owns Disney shit now owns
Speaker 1: a part of Scientology shit, which means that they have
Speaker 1: to pay Scientology for those things. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: you've you've purchased Disney stuff over the years, but now
Speaker 1: you've been added to a subscription service via Taylor Swift. Right,
Speaker 1: so now everybody that has Disney or watches Disney has
Speaker 1: a rental fee for liking Disney. And that's just yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for the culture war slop in twenty
Speaker 3: years when Taylor Swift buys Scientology and then he makes
Speaker 3: all the Disney movies about Lord Zenu. And then it's
Speaker 3: just like a like a Tucker Carlson figure. He's like,
Speaker 3: they want us to they want us to pretty Zenu?
Speaker 1: What is this? Who is Why does he sound like
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro? I don't know, it's just they all kind
Speaker 1: of Tucker Tucker Carlson sounds like Ben Shapiro. Oh no,
Speaker 1: what is this? Why does this happen? Who?
Speaker 3: Who wants to live like this?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Wether than that that you don't understand. Then that's my
Speaker 3: next thing, which is I make Siamese twins.
Speaker 1: Out of bench Tucker Carlson, your gods.
Speaker 3: I so I genetically modify them and mutate them together
Speaker 3: and they become a two headed great How.
Speaker 1: Does one make out with oneself? Joe? That's just that's awful.
Speaker 3: Well, they just just cross arms and jerk each other off,
Speaker 3: and then that's how you solve the Israel Palestine conflict.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense, that does make sense.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna fix everything because wrestling is so good
Speaker 3: that we just have to.
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