WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:05.040 You see something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What what's gonna happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:29.199 What? Good afternoon everybody, and welcome back to another episode 4 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:33.439 of Great Pill, Gray Pill Podcast. I am your host, Jules, 5 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:39.399 the Handsome Hirapant, the Mississippi Mystic Sound Scientists, elohem Edomologist, 6 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:42.719 all that good stuff. Guys, we got a banger episode 7 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.920 for you today. But before we get started, be sure 8 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:49.159 to like the stream, share the stream, get some more 9 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.079 people in here, share it with your friends and family. 10 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:57.079 Maybe not your family, pins how how SciTS of your 11 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:00.719 family is? Like I said, got a banger episode for 12 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:05.079 you today, I am joined. You could call him a 13 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:07.560 co host of the show. By this point of our 14 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:10.760 friend Nick from the Rejects, Nick, what's going on? 15 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:10.920 Man? 16 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:11.640 How you doing today? 17 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:11.920 Good? 18 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:12.280 How are you? 19 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:14.799 I'm doing this one so glad to have you here 20 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:19.599 with us. Oh yeah, definitely. And uh the guest of 21 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:26.719 the hour, the Yarl of the Gray Horn pagans staying, 22 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.719 what's going on? Brother? It's good to have you here, 23 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.439 and thank you, thank you for coming back hanging out 24 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:35.560 with us here on Gray Pill. How you doing for sure? 25 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:40.879 It's my pleasure. This is the third time coming up. 26 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.400 Mistaken Yeah, yeah, no, thanks for having me back. Man. 27 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:47.000 I'm always always happy to you know, to talk about 28 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:50.799 the gods, talk about the mythologies and everything connected to it. 29 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:52.920 I mean, it's you know, it's what I do. 30 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:56.280 So yeah, yeah, that's something that me and you have 31 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.120 in common. Over the past couple of years, I've had 32 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:05.599 eloheem at alogy focusing on the Sumerian pantheon. Sumerian it 33 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:09.520 kind of like goes into the Assyrian, the Acadian, the Babylonian, 34 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.039 all all that, but it all stems from the Sumerian. 35 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:13.080 Then me and. 36 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:18.400 Headless Giant have rustic gods, which focuses on the Greek pantheon, 37 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:22.560 and yeah, we have gods of the morning Wood. More 38 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.599 or less, we focus a lot on the on the 39 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.840 Norse pantheon because we we do. We we read a 40 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.159 lot of well we're starting right now to get into 41 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.919 the Volsunga saga. We we spin a wheel and we 42 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.240 let the wheel kind of guide us to to where 43 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.840 we're going. But sometimes I force the hand, which I 44 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.960 have done when uh, you know, when when I when 45 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:50.080 I want to, because you know it is it is 46 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:52.479 a Patreon show, guys, if you want to support the show, 47 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.039 we are doing Gods of the Morning would tomorrow morning. 48 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:59.479 So it didn't happen this morning because we have this 49 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.919 show right now, but that will be tomorrow morning. Go 50 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.599 over to patreon dot com slash Grateful podcast. But Stein 51 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.280 for for people who don't know who you are or 52 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:14.360 haven't caught our past episodes, Uh, tell people a little 53 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.319 bit about yourself and what you do talk about. 54 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:21.479 Sure, yeah, I go by Stein Fox on the Internet. 55 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.840 I am the host of the Ground Pagans podcast. You 56 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:31.000 are of the tribe of the ground Pagans. We really 57 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:37.240 focus ourselves on the Northern European pantheon, the Northern European gods, 58 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:40.719 the you know, the Norse gods, Germanic, a little bit 59 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.520 of Irish and Anglo Saxon in there as well. And 60 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:50.879 I really take that from from every aspect, every angle 61 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.879 that's I can, whether that be you know, a cult, 62 00:03:54.000 --> 00:04:02.240 esoteric history, history, just you know, trying to uncover the 63 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:07.240 lost history of my people and really try to to 64 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:12.319 reconstruct its best I can, while you know, try to 65 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:16.759 answering what for me is the most important question is 66 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.759 how to be a proper twenty first century pagan Because 67 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:23.800 to know the old ways and all is you know, 68 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.160 it's all fine and dandy, but we're no longer living 69 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.399 in those times, So how do we adapt it to 70 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.399 these times? And that's what I'm It's one of the 71 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.560 things that I'm trying to figure out while you know, 72 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:39.959 trying to figure out what this world actually is and 73 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:46.439 how it actually you know, connects and all of that. So, yeah, 74 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.120 that's that's what I what I do in a in 75 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:51.199 a nutshell. 76 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:54.439 Absolutely, that's awesome. Man, I'm just looking at you. I'd 77 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:56.560 completely forgot you had a merched or do to have 78 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:57.600 to get me somewhere? 79 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.480 Yeah, No, I do, I do, Yes, Yeah. 80 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:05.160 And you know, people are given this one lens of 81 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:10.240 kind of the story of the northern of of that, 82 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:15.879 of that heritage right of of that certain mythology, and 83 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:17.920 and you know, I think. 84 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:18.279 It is. 85 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:24.279 Healthy, especially to look at it from an unbiased perspective, 86 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:28.480 if not a perspective of someone who does you know, 87 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:32.279 practice those traditions and and uh, you know, venerates these 88 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.639 gods because you know, it's not everything that we're told 89 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:36.079 it is. 90 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:41.079 You know, no, definitely not. I mean, you'll have a 91 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.439 lot of a lot of shows, you know, a lot 92 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.560 of movies, you know, the Marvel movies have kind of 93 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:51.560 dipped into Norse mythology. You know, how they portrayed the 94 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.920 gods is I mean visually, Yeah, it's really cool. It's 95 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:59.079 it's highly inaccurate, but it's you know, it looks cool, 96 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.199 and you know, I guess that's you know, what Marvel 97 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:06.480 is about, just has to look cool. There it goes 98 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:07.199 my phone. 99 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:09.720 One. 100 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:13.759 Sorry guys, dude, it's either phones or screaming kids, or 101 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.759 usually if headless is on, there's a very loud car 102 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:19.959 going by. 103 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:20.600 A racetrack by his house. 104 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:24.360 Yeah, okay, well there you go. It's always something. No, 105 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:26.399 it's fine, it's fine. Uh. 106 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:28.040 I knew that was gonna happen. 107 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:30.560 Anyway. 108 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:36.480 M Yeah, Hollywood depictions. I mean, to be honest, my 109 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:43.199 awakening to all of this was history Vikings really, which 110 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:50.439 is very you know, dark and gray and very depressing. Well, 111 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:56.519 true history was so much more, much more vibrant. Yes, 112 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.759 our ancestors they they liked colors as well, even though 113 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:07.000 they were literally darker times. But yeah, so, but it 114 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:11.279 was really the the atmosphere around that, you know, the 115 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:15.079 the power or perceived power of of the gods, the 116 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:21.680 honor culture, the you know, the traditional ways really that's 117 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:25.759 that's that's something that always has spoken to me. It's 118 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:32.360 always something that I you know, I did feel and yeah, 119 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:34.959 like by watching all of that and like hey, this 120 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.439 is your ancestral story. It just it just clicked and 121 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:44.120 all well snowballed from there and you know, started the channel, 122 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:49.160 started the podcasts and yeah, now I'm now I'm here, 123 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:53.720 you know, doing doing guest spots and while trying to 124 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:56.920 to connect all the all the dots as well and 125 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.439 have to sever you know, the connections between some some dots, 126 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:04.639 like hey, you know, I'm still learning. Our history was 127 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:09.160 always told, you know, through stories and through mythologies. It 128 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.399 wasn't until the until the Romans came into Europe that 129 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:18.639 we we started to write things down. And most of 130 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.079 our stories are written out by Sri Serlison, who was 131 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.319 still a Christian. So everything that he has written with 132 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.680 a grain of salt because it is still through the 133 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:30.399 Christian lens, of course, yes. 134 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:34.080 Yes, and I have I have taken that into account 135 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.240 as well. And it seems like, you know, whenever we 136 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:40.279 tried to remember our ancestors or our ancient past, it 137 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.919 we always seem to get browbeaten, right, or like it's 138 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.240 we we seem to get uh held against us or 139 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.720 something like everyone. I think everyone can say that all 140 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:53.480 of their ancestors in some time have done some things 141 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:58.320 you know, that were you know. I mean, look who knows. 142 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.159 I'm sure they were deemed necessary at the time, right, 143 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.480 I mean it was a different way of life back then, 144 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:05.840 but you know, not not the greatest things. 145 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:06.559 Uh. 146 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:09.600 But it seems like we're the only people who should 147 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:12.159 you know, or are made to feel guilty about it, right, 148 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.600 or we can't be proud of where we come from 149 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.879 because of this we uh, we can't look into that. 150 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:20.840 I mean, dude, if I would have known that these 151 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.879 sagas and these stories existed when I was a kid, dude, 152 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:31.360 I I I would have have dove into this way 153 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.120 earlier on. I mean, it's fascinating these the stories of 154 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:40.000 these heroes and and just the the trials and tribulations 155 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.200 that they go through that are not only like just 156 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:47.320 like courageous and brave and and and but like also 157 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.840 esoteric at the same time, like they're acquiring this wisdom 158 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.159 and and you know, this this this knowledge from the 159 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:57.600 gods or from this certain aspect of uh, you know, 160 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.799 and and uh it. It does speak it it it 161 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.440 does speak to you. And and I think if you're 162 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.879 to reject that, I don't know, I don't know, uh, 163 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:10.200 the consequences of that. 164 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.279 But I mean the consequences of that is what we're 165 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:17.240 we are seeing in in Europe right now. I mean, 166 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:21.799 that's there's also a lot of well, you know, liberalism 167 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.840 and and the the Christian mindset of you know, love 168 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:26.679 everyone except everyone. 169 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:28.759 Especially when everyone else. 170 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.320 Yeah yeah, yeah, and you know, take care of those 171 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:36.799 less fortunate, so you know, get all of those less 172 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:40.399 fortunate here into Europe where you know, we have it 173 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:46.039 so good, you know, accept them. You know, there's no 174 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.360 need to to have them integrate into our society like 175 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:54.039 you have to, you know, take them into into accounts, 176 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.919 you know, all of all of their their wishes and 177 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.679 their their culture and uh and and all of that. 178 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:05.399 Like for example, it is the the Ramadan time at 179 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:10.600 the moment, which is the for Islam, the fasting time, 180 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:14.240 and like I'm seeing you know, posts here and there 181 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:18.679 are coming from uh, you know, the like Islamic people 182 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.559 living in well, in the Netherlands and in Europe as 183 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.240 a whole. It's like, how dare you like eat in 184 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.080 front of us, or like when you're sitting next to 185 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.639 us on the train, like, how dare you eat a 186 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.919 sandwich when I'm fasting? It's like, well, I'm not fasting and. 187 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.600 I'm hungry, So we're just going to eat this country 188 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:40.240 for thousands of years, dude, you know, yeah, yeah, absolutely, 189 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.120 And and you see that happening here in America. These 190 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.639 people want to come here, and they'll you know when 191 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:47.679 when as they're coming here, they want you know, they'll 192 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.919 be all pro pro America this and that. But once 193 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:53.559 they get here and uh, you know, start making money 194 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.799 off of the country and and ben and benefiting from 195 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:00.200 their situation, then the tide kind of turned in. You 196 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:01.480 see a different rhetoric. 197 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:01.720 Right. 198 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.720 They like to hold up there, uh, their country's flag 199 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:09.159 right over our flag. If you know, there's been interviews 200 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.399 where people go up to these these people in in 201 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.519 the street and and they'll ask them, you know, if 202 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.320 we went to war with Mexico or Guatemala, you know 203 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.879 which one would you Well, I'd support I'd support Mexico, 204 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.879 that's more, you know. And it's like, well, so then 205 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.240 you're not American, you know what I mean? And and 206 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:30.919 and and so it uh yeah, I can't imagine an 207 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:34.399 even older country such as where you live or you know, 208 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:38.559 anywhere in Europe that happening and anyone just being okay 209 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:39.000 with that. 210 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:42.600 Oh no, a lot of us are are absolutely not, 211 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:46.679 and you know, will will make that, will make that known. 212 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.879 But especially here in the Netherlands, like that that all 213 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:55.559 really started in the like sixties seventies, when we had 214 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.440 a bit of an economic boom. We brought in a 215 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:03.600 lot of facts reworkers from you know, from Turkey, from Morocco, 216 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.519 from Greece, from like just anywhere, you know, cheap labor 217 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:13.879 something that is well, I think worldwide of course. And 218 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:19.080 are jobs No, I mean it's not it's not even that. 219 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:21.279 It's not like they're you know, they're taking our jobs, 220 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.759 you know, took our jibs and all that. Now, that's 221 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.320 that's that's not a it's not not even the issue. 222 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:26.759 Right. 223 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:31.480 A lot of the well what is now like third 224 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.440 fourth generation, they're too damn lazy to to get a job. 225 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:37.399 You know, they want the money, but they don't know 226 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:42.120 they don't want to work. That's why you know, like 227 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:47.480 the like wanted kind of shows here in the Netherlands. 228 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.639 You know, they they call them. Morocco's got talent because 229 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.879 you know they're the usual suspects. It's like you know 230 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:57.240 Middle Eastern about you know, like one one seventy five highs, 231 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.200 Like okay, usual suspects. 232 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.679 Definitely not a European guy, No, no, definitely not. 233 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:06.320 But you know we we brought in all those these 234 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:11.519 factory workers. We you know, we built like factory towns 235 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.960 for them, you know, gave them a job, gave them 236 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:17.440 a gave him a home. And you know that was that, 237 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:22.320 like no, no integration needed, no you know, learning the 238 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:28.480 language needed. Just work in the factory. You know, make 239 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.720 the bus money, make yourself some some money, because you know, 240 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.639 our money in value is greater than than yours. And 241 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:40.279 like whatever you do after, you know, not our problem. 242 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:44.799 We're getting rich. So so yeah, that's it's been. It's 243 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.519 been going on for for decades and you know, like 244 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:51.519 I said, we're now onto the the third fourth generation, 245 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:53.639 and like, don't get me wrong, a lot of them 246 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:54.639 are willing to work. 247 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:55.679 I am. 248 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:59.600 I'm good friends with a with an Iraqi guy and 249 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.960 he is actually one who'll say that you know, he'll 250 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:07.600 support the Netherlands over Iraq because you know he is 251 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:10.240 in the Netherlands and this this this country has given 252 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:14.440 him so much already and has provided him with, you know, 253 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:17.000 so much already. I mean, yeah, he'll go back to 254 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.879 Iraq to you know, visit family and all of that. 255 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:25.039 But you know, he is he considers himself to be Dutch, 256 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.720 so he'll support the Netherlands and and all of that. 257 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:32.000 So there there are you know, it's it's not all 258 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.879 of them, but it is unfortunately a lot of them, 259 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:41.000 and that goes that goes back decades. And yeah, i mean, 260 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.519 like as you said, they are still allowed to to 261 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:46.240 have their national pride. 262 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:47.360 You know. 263 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.759 What a thing here is like a big Turkish weddings 264 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.519 for example, Like they'll rent all these like expensive fucking cars, 265 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.159 you know, like honking through this tree, like waving the 266 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:03.200 Turkish flag and. 267 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:03.559 All of that. 268 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.559 And that's that's that's fine, like we should be we 269 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:12.279 should be okay with that. We're not supposed to comment 270 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:19.200 on that because you know, then you're you're racist or 271 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:22.480 or whatever. But if the Duchies would do it, we 272 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.080 you know, we'd get to have to find for for 273 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:30.320 doing it. So yeah, but that's that's I mean, the 274 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:38.279 Netherlands has always been very liberal, very open minded, while 275 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.120 at the same time like you know, not wanting to 276 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:43.440 create issues. Just you know, keep your head down, do 277 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:50.440 your thing, and you know, don't don't make a fuss. Unfortunately, 278 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:52.399 you know, we are now starting to make a fuss 279 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.519 because we're getting we're getting kind of kind of tired 280 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.840 of the ship in the little full. 281 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:04.160 Yeah, a little yeah man. And then it's like you know, yeah, 282 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:08.559 and you can't eat, you can't even embrace your culture, right. Uh. 283 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:11.000 We see the same thing happening here in America. And 284 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.720 I just used that one people, you know, just as 285 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.039 an example. It happens with every group of people that 286 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:20.319 seems to come to this country. But and you know, 287 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.440 we saw that thing where where was it? Minneapolis? I 288 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:26.599 think with the Somalians and all the fraud. And then 289 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:32.160 you have the Tyler Oliviera kid going up to New 290 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.119 Jersey and New York and exposing these uh, these Hasidic 291 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.079 communities that are more or less so doing the same thing. 292 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.480 I mean, I think none of them are working, and 293 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.880 they're having like ten kids per household, and it's it's 294 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:50.279 like what's but they spend all day study studying the Torah. 295 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.440 You know, who's who's paying for these people to live? 296 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.000 I think I know who. I think I know who. 297 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.160 But anyway, yeah, I don't want to get all political 298 00:17:59.160 --> 00:17:59.799 and stuff. 299 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.599 But it's but that's, you know, it's it's one of 300 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.319 the reasons why why you should embrace your you know, 301 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.079 your history, why you should embrace your your heritage, because 302 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:14.160 you know, we have fought for or against these people 303 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.119 for for centuries. I mean we've also you know, we've 304 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.599 also traded with these people for centuries. I mean, there 305 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:25.119 there are Viking artifacts found as far as the the 306 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.640 Syria Israel border. You know, I believe I've mentioned before that, 307 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.960 for example, the Varangian Guard of the I believe there 308 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:38.839 was the Ottoman Empire. They were all northern Europeans, like big, 309 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:41.200 big burley guys. I mean, yeah, oh yeah, you're gonna 310 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:44.960 want those as guards. But that was too to the 311 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:51.720 benefits of you know, of both parties, of all parties involved. Really, 312 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:57.839 so yeah, like we we should work together, like we 313 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:02.240 should cooperate, but you know, still respect each other's, each 314 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:06.440 other's culture, each other's heritage. And I mean, I am 315 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.880 you know, I have a very strong stance and that 316 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:15.839 that's why I you know, why I celebrate my heritage. 317 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.160 Why I you know, I do my best to to 318 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:27.920 educate about you know, about our heritage both you know, culturally, spiritually, religiously, accult, esoteric, 319 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:32.880 like doesn't matter, like all all layers. And I mean 320 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:38.319 I'm I'm having well somewhat of a success with it 321 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:40.880 and learning a lot in the meantime, you're having for 322 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:41.799 myself as well. 323 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.319 So yeah, man, well that's that's part of it. That's 324 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.400 part of the journey and like I said, having fun 325 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.119 doing it as well. Yeah. Somebody said, Stein, what kind 326 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:53.039 of cross are you wearing? 327 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.119 Just well, the cross of my shirt is just it's 328 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.519 it's a star. But I always wear the hammer. 329 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:06.519 Of that's me on nair. Yeah, I didn't know if 330 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:12.079 you had a what is it the Woden's son? Jesus dude? 331 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:17.480 Really seeing they're talking about phones and stuff now people 332 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:21.599 are calling me all right, uh but yeah dude, so 333 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.079 uh but one book. We're one saga because people aren't 334 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.680 aware that there there's many different sagas, right, Like there's 335 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:34.079 sagas from Denmark, there's sagas from Norway, sagas from Iceland, 336 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:40.519 the Germanic sagas, like there's there's so many. Yeah, yeah, Sweden, 337 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:44.119 Yeah dude, yeah, we we have a lot to get 338 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.640 to as far as us reading them on on the show. 339 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.079 You know, we haven't. Uh we we've gotten up to 340 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:53.400 chapter eight in the vall Songa saga and now now 341 00:20:53.480 --> 00:21:00.359 this is like the progenitor of correct me if I'm wrong, 342 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.319 but this is the progenitor of the Nordic race that 343 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:09.119 comes down from the ball songs. 344 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:13.240 Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm you know, kind of uh 345 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:16.319 still studying that as well, because that's i mean, that's 346 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:19.519 kind of when you get into the you know, the 347 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:27.440 territory of like hyper Borea. Oh ah, okay, that's that's 348 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:29.519 my that's my co host, my host. 349 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:31.799 We're always used to beans being here with HEAs. 350 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:40.559 But yeah, that's uh yeah. The the original stories, uh 351 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.119 you'll you'll find them in the the the volsung in 352 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:49.880 the those are the the legendary sagas you know, talks 353 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:53.839 about all the all the heroes, and then the the 354 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:58.640 Vullaspa is really the origin stories of it all, which 355 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:03.440 is part of the poetic and it's really the the 356 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:09.240 Poetic and the prosed Up are the the the two 357 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:14.640 books where in every story is has been written down 358 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:20.599 as well as the yeah column laws of of Odin, 359 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.880 the half Amala, the sayings of the sayings of the 360 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:29.960 High One, sayings of the Wise One, which is I 361 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:34.079 guess the the closest that we get to, like ten commandments, 362 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:36.920 although they're more you. 363 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:39.960 Know, nor the norse. What do they call it? I 364 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:41.240 mean had Less talked about them. 365 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.680 I mean they're they're they're guidelines. Really, this is you know, 366 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:50.359 like this is what the max what Yeah, this is, 367 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.680 this is what this is what Odin sees as you know, 368 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.079 the best way to the best way to live, the 369 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:58.200 best way to go. And you know, whether you hold 370 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:02.359 yourself to it or not, that is completely completely up 371 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.079 to you. 372 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:04.279 You know. 373 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.240 That's that's one of one of the things that has 374 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.279 you know, that's affected me for the longest time to well. 375 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.680 Paganism in in the broadest sense hedonism really, if you 376 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:21.119 want to talk European specific, it is very open. It's 377 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.160 a it's a personal it's a personal practice. There is 378 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:29.000 no there is no dogma, there are no set rules, 379 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:32.640 set guidelines, you know, like you do this on that day, you. 380 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:34.440 Know, in that. 381 00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:38.599 Specific direction, using these tools and prayers. It's not it's 382 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.960 very it's very personal. So you know, if you if 383 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.680 you feel that you know it is right to to 384 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.799 do it this way, then you know, go go do 385 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.240 it that way. If you want to go all out 386 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:55.079 and like, yes, spend a couple of thousand on an 387 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.759 altar and all these these fancy tools and whatever, go 388 00:23:57.839 --> 00:23:58.519 fucking nuts. 389 00:23:59.400 --> 00:23:59.559 You know. 390 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:05.480 It's but it's it's it's the the intents that's that counts. Like, 391 00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:07.319 are you doing it with the right contention? 392 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:09.599 Are you doing it to do you have faith? 393 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:13.359 Yeah? You know, are are you honoring your gods? Are 394 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:16.680 you honoring your ancestors? Are you honoring your your family? 395 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:19.960 Because it's not just you know people from the past. 396 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:24.799 You know, you are your your ancestors as well, of course, 397 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:29.279 and you know I want my children's children to you know, 398 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.480 tell the tales of me as well and becoming one 399 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.480 of the ancestors. 400 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:34.079 Yeah. 401 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.839