Speaker 1: It's nice eyes, Dan Ray Unnelling Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: A couple of other topics that I would like to
Speaker 2: get to tonight, but at least one I want to
Speaker 2: get to because today is January sixth, and per the
Speaker 2: Constitution of the United States, today technically, technically is the
Speaker 2: day that the President of the United States is elected.
Speaker 2: Because what happens, I think most of you know, is
Speaker 2: that the election occurs on the first Tuesday after the
Speaker 2: first Monday in November, as we had the election on
Speaker 2: November fifth, and then there's a meeting of all in
Speaker 2: all fifty states of the various electors in those states
Speaker 2: at some point in early December. Happens on the same
Speaker 2: day in all fifty states, and those electors cast their
Speaker 2: ballots for the winning candidate in each state unanimously. There
Speaker 2: are occasionally some electors who decide not to cast a ballot,
Speaker 2: but that's very rare. And this year Donald Trump in
Speaker 2: December won three hundred and twelve electoral votes, which was
Speaker 2: the number that he won in the election. All of
Speaker 2: his electors went to their respective fifty states in December
Speaker 2: and voted for Donald Trump. And again it's all ceremonial
Speaker 2: and those sealed documents are transported to Washington, D C. Where,
Speaker 2: on January sixth, as the Constitution prescribes, the ballots are
Speaker 2: opened in a joint session of Congress and the winner
Speaker 2: is officially officially identified. So although people knew, most people
Speaker 2: knew and accepted on November sixth that Donald Trump had
Speaker 2: been elected president, and took two months for that to
Speaker 2: officially be determined. Now, Donald Trump will become the president
Speaker 2: on January twentieth, at noontime when he takes the oath
Speaker 2: of office for a second time. And I thought that
Speaker 2: we would be remiss if I did not mention it
Speaker 2: was four years ago today that there was the riot
Speaker 2: at the Capitol when Trumps supporters invaded the Capitol, engaged
Speaker 2: in violence against Capitol police officers and physical violence against
Speaker 2: the building. Windows were broken, doors were kicked down, smashed
Speaker 2: in whatever. And there are still, I guess hundreds of
Speaker 2: people still in jail. And Donald Trump had said he
Speaker 2: may pardon somemer, if not all of them. But what
Speaker 2: I wanted to focus on today was the calm and
Speaker 2: the normalcy that occurred in Washington, d C. Today. And look,
Speaker 2: I don't think we should give medals out to people
Speaker 2: who did the right thing today. But certainly it had
Speaker 2: to be an interesting moment for Vice President Harris, who,
Speaker 2: just as Mike Pence before her, basically was the person
Speaker 2: who announced that Donald Trump, the person that she ran
Speaker 2: against last fall, was officially officially elected president. Now, if
Speaker 2: you compere what went on four years ago and the
Speaker 2: disgraceful behavior that occurred on that day, which is still
Speaker 2: being politicized to this day. By the way, I watched
Speaker 2: one of the ABC News whose reports tonight, very disappointed
Speaker 2: in the story that was filed by ABC News in
Speaker 2: which they took president like Trump out of context. If
Speaker 2: you watched the ABC News tonight, it shows him saying
Speaker 2: and we're going to march up to the Capitol cut
Speaker 2: and where he said, We're going to go peacefully and
Speaker 2: all of that, and I'll be with you and all
Speaker 2: of that. They took out that phrase, which again to me,
Speaker 2: is just unacceptable. There should be congratulations. There were no
Speaker 2: objections from what I understand today in Congress when Vice
Speaker 2: President Harris oversaw the procedure. It's just a procedure. It's
Speaker 2: a formality. And there have been other years besides four
Speaker 2: years ago, in which various members of Congress objected. There
Speaker 2: were objections made, I know in two thousand and four
Speaker 2: by Democrats when George Bush was elected, and also in
Speaker 2: two thousand now again those elections were very close. But
Speaker 2: I just think that we should take some consolation today
Speaker 2: in a return to normalcy, in that things went today
Speaker 2: in Congress as they should have, quietly, peacefully, in a
Speaker 2: distinguished fashion, in which basically the election of Donald Trump
Speaker 2: as the forty seventh President of the United States was
Speaker 2: as it's mandated by the Constitution, was confirmed. There were
Speaker 2: no riots, there were no outbursts, there were no protests.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there were a lot of the Democratic
Speaker 2: members of Congress who were not happy to be sitting there,
Speaker 2: but that's the way the country is supposed to act,
Speaker 2: and I would say congratulations to everyone who conducted themselves
Speaker 2: appropriately today. Speaker Johnson was there standing next to the
Speaker 2: President of the Senate, Vice President Harris, to whom fell
Speaker 2: the responsibility to the vice president, not the Senate President.
Speaker 2: The vice president of the United States, or her capacity
Speaker 2: she could have if she had won, have read that
Speaker 2: she had got the two hundred and seventy votes to
Speaker 2: be elected president. But she was there in her ceremonial function,
Speaker 2: and she had to articulate that Donald Trump at one
Speaker 2: three hundred and twelve electoral votes and therefore is elected
Speaker 2: as the forty seventh president of the United States. So
Speaker 2: I say again, I'm not a big fan of Vice
Speaker 2: President Harris, but I think that she conducted herself very well. Today.
Speaker 2: I wish the Republicans had conducted them the same way
Speaker 2: four years ago. But what is done is done, and
Speaker 2: it will never be it can never be changed, and
Speaker 2: it was disgraceful that day. I remember broadcasting the night
Speaker 2: of January sixth and twenty twenty one and realizing that
Speaker 2: that it was a blight on our history books that
Speaker 2: for the first time in our history, we had American
Speaker 2: protesters riot and invade the Capitol. Now, I don't want
Speaker 2: to get into revisiting the twenty twenty election. That's over with,
Speaker 2: but I do think it would be appropriate tonight if
Speaker 2: some of you would like to comment on this return
Speaker 2: to normalcy It passed today. The networks covered it, the
Speaker 2: cable network news stations gave it more substantial coverage. But
Speaker 2: watching it today, it was the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: It's the way it's always been. The election is over,
Speaker 2: a winner has been declared. There was no question in
Speaker 2: my mind than in twenty twenty Joe Biden had won
Speaker 2: the election. I know that there are those who still
Speaker 2: don't believe that, but let us hope that going forward
Speaker 2: on future January sixth, that it will always be this way. Today,
Speaker 2: I hope some of you will join me in that belief,
Speaker 2: and I'll give you an opportunity six seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 2: thirty one, seven nine. And it doesn't matter if you're
Speaker 2: a Republican or if you're a Democrat, or if you're
Speaker 2: a third party supporter, a Green Party person, a libertarian,
Speaker 2: or whatever. We are a nation of laws, and today
Speaker 2: the laws were upheld. There was no protest, there was
Speaker 2: no riot, there was no suspension of the activity. There
Speaker 2: was no moment when the Vice President of the United
Speaker 2: States was hustled off the floor of the House and
Speaker 2: hurried and hidden away in the basement at the Capitol.
Speaker 2: I think it's important to notice it, and I think
Speaker 2: it's important to talk about it, and I hope some
Speaker 2: of you will join the conversation. Uh, there's no controversy here,
Speaker 2: which is, of course the last thing you want to
Speaker 2: do on a talk show. But I think it's a
Speaker 2: night tonight when all of us can breathe a little
Speaker 2: easier and realize that maybe maybe we have studied ourselves
Speaker 2: as a nation and we will never again see a
Speaker 2: repeat of January sixth, twenty twenty one. Join the conversation,
Speaker 2: and if you want to disagree with me, fine you can.
Speaker 2: But I'd prefer to hear from people who believe, as
Speaker 2: I do tonight that today was an important day and
Speaker 2: that this selection now is official. Back of night Side
Speaker 2: after this. Now, back to Dan Ray live from the
Speaker 2: Window World night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. Just
Speaker 2: to read from the twelfth Amendment, the President of the Senate,
Speaker 2: who is always the Vice President, shall, in the presence
Speaker 2: of the Senate and House of Representative, open all the certificates,
Speaker 2: and the vote shall then be counted. The person having
Speaker 2: the great number of votes for president, she'll be elected president.
Speaker 2: And that is the way it went today. Okay, It
Speaker 2: is as simple as that. It was done simply. It
Speaker 2: was done in a dignified process today, and it's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's it's just the way it should be done.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I just hope those of you might agree
Speaker 2: with me that we can put January sixth of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one in our rear view mirror and move on.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Pelvis in Middleton, Massachusetts. Pelvis, welcome next
Speaker 2: to let's hil How are you are you sure?
Speaker 3: No, No, I thought I thought it was. It was
Speaker 3: done very well. We were watching the Bobcraft exit video
Speaker 3: from to Ron Mayo, yep, right before we changed over
Speaker 3: to the you know, the the deeming of the electoral votes.
Speaker 3: It was. It was done correctly. You know, it's some
Speaker 3: people say it was like you know, reading your own
Speaker 3: execution or whatever. It is like you know, for her,
Speaker 3: but whatever once you know, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: they they it was. It was done correctly. I just
Speaker 3: hope that, you know, with Vance being there, In my opinion,
Speaker 3: the vice presidential debate was the best debate out of
Speaker 3: all of them as far as well spoken. You know,
Speaker 3: they gave he gave respect to Wallace whatever, like you know,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, this is a step forward to I
Speaker 3: hope Vance being lined up for the next coming Well, yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, Trump has one one term left, this is
Speaker 2: his second term.
Speaker 3: No exactly, but but there was no character attack when
Speaker 3: it came to the vice president's debate, it was points
Speaker 3: only they would They weren't attacking in charge's character, and
Speaker 3: I think that's how we should move forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about you're talking about the debate between Well
Speaker 2: and Tim Wallash. Yeah, yeah, Well I felt that was
Speaker 2: that was that.
Speaker 3: Was that was the most respectful debate out of all
Speaker 3: of them, because they weren't attacking each other's character, that
Speaker 3: were going after the point which I thought, I mean,
Speaker 3: I hope that, you know, I was hoping that Trump
Speaker 3: would go after, but it came down to a sugcest.
Speaker 3: So at this point forward, I hope that we can
Speaker 3: build on this moving forward and advance is the next
Speaker 3: on line in my opinion, I.
Speaker 2: Hope, Well, yeah, I mean, I hope what we can
Speaker 2: do is we can we can build on this day
Speaker 2: and make sure that we will never have another January
Speaker 2: sixth like we had on twenty twenty one. I'm still
Speaker 2: in the we we.
Speaker 3: Yes, we did, but we had a lot of an
Speaker 3: interference on that day as well. And see if there
Speaker 3: was some other things involved with that day, yes, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, but.
Speaker 2: Well it may have been. But either way, I think
Speaker 2: the the mistake that was made was the President summing
Speaker 2: summoning the crowd to Washington stop the steal. Uh, and I.
Speaker 3: Think that he No, you're right, yes, yep, yeah.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is I was amazed that, you know,
Speaker 2: then President Trump was able to resuscitate himself and become
Speaker 2: elected h four years later, because to me, it was
Speaker 2: it was it was an amazing political comeback and that
Speaker 2: has to be acknowledged, which is fine. But I think
Speaker 2: that we as a society, that was the day of
Speaker 2: shame and a day that we should never happen again.
Speaker 2: And uh, it really I think that it made Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's rode back to the White House much harder. If
Speaker 2: he had if he had done what Joe Biden had done, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, and and you know, basically accepted the results
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, I think he would have been
Speaker 2: elected even more easily. But either way, we know what
Speaker 2: is know what has ha happened. Pelvis, Thank you much.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you joined me, and I just hope
Speaker 2: that going.
Speaker 3: Forward, moving forward, moving forward, advance. As a military guy
Speaker 3: well spoke, in my opinion, I just think moving forward,
Speaker 3: we need somebody with a little more vibrants. We don't
Speaker 3: have to elect eighty five year old men around our country.
Speaker 3: We have to have Democrats want to come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Democrats are going to come out with somebody.
Speaker 2: Some You're going to come up with somebody. We'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. Okay, you know, right, but that's a long
Speaker 2: way off. I want to focus. And again, I don't
Speaker 2: mean to cut you off here, and I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying I appreciate your call. I just want to
Speaker 2: focus on and celebrate today the way in which everything
Speaker 2: went according to the constitution and there was no disruption today.
Speaker 2: In effect, President Biden is still president for two more weeks,
Speaker 2: but in effect, the transition of power went according to
Speaker 2: the way constant of mandates, and Democrats and Republicans can
Speaker 2: celebrate that.
Speaker 3: Thanks Bell, celebrations, funeral.
Speaker 2: Okay, begs Selvis, all right, good night. Let me go
Speaker 2: to Joe and Belmont. Joe, you're next on nightside.
Speaker 4: Welcome, Hi, Dan. I want to be the few who
Speaker 4: disagree with you. I agree with Trump's march on the
Speaker 4: Capitol January twenty sixth, except for two things, destruction and violence.
Speaker 4: I would believe in a march like MATHA Luther King
Speaker 4: non violence, because, like you said last week, there are
Speaker 4: forces in this country who were taking away our freedoms
Speaker 4: like freedom of religion and freedom of speech and fake
Speaker 4: fake press, fake news, and you know, I feel like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Joe, Well but let me ask you this, Joe, Okay,
Speaker 2: the election held in twenty twenty. Now, I know that
Speaker 2: there were a lot of people who felt that there
Speaker 2: was skill doudgery going on and that this happened or
Speaker 2: that happened. But the bottom line is that when all
Speaker 2: the votes were counted, when all the court cases were heard,
Speaker 2: nothing changed. Now, if Donald Trump had not summoned that
Speaker 2: crowd to Washington on January sixth, twenty four years ago, today,
Speaker 2: there would have been none of the destruction. He basically
Speaker 2: set the stage back then for it was a riot.
Speaker 2: I mean, the left wants to call it an insurrection.
Speaker 2: I still call it a riot. There were doors smashed,
Speaker 2: windows broken, me you saw everything. It was disgraceful. I
Speaker 2: kind of imagine that you would countenance or abide what
Speaker 2: happened on January sixth, twenty twenty one. You're not saying that,
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 4: No. I'm saying a peaceful demonstration like on the Washington
Speaker 4: monument like Mattha and Luther King, because I believe maybe
Speaker 4: in five years or forty years, there's going to be
Speaker 4: a revolution against this country. If the elite Democrats, you know,
Speaker 4: the extreme liberals, are going to keep on taking away
Speaker 4: our freedoms, the people aren't going to stand.
Speaker 2: Joe, Joe, Joe, Look, you saw what happened in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one. There was an election in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You voted and your guy won. They didn't take away
Speaker 2: your freedoms. And four years from now there'll be another election,
Speaker 2: and four years after that another election, and at some
Speaker 2: point you're going to win. Some point you're gonna lose. Joe.
Speaker 2: You've been You've I've met you. I know that you
Speaker 2: were alive when when when Ronald Reagan was president. I
Speaker 2: know you were alive when George Bush was president, when
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton was president, when Barack Obama was president, when
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was president. You know, we go back and forth, Joe.
Speaker 2: In this country, sometimes the Democrats win the White House,
Speaker 2: sometimes the Republicans win the White House. You can't, I
Speaker 2: think President Biden said it. You can't love your country
Speaker 2: only when you win.
Speaker 4: Oh, I agree with you to support you know, whoever
Speaker 4: is president. But I just want to disagree with you
Speaker 4: because I think our freedoms i'd being taken away.
Speaker 2: I think that I don't. Look, we just talked last
Speaker 2: hour about the number of bike lanes in Boston, and
Speaker 2: I'm not in favor of government overreached, Joe. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, you win back your freedoms at the
Speaker 2: ballot box. You don't win back your freedoms by invading
Speaker 2: the Capitol and smashing windows and fighting with police officers,
Speaker 2: with Capitol police officers.
Speaker 4: I agree with you on that, but I'm talking about
Speaker 4: non destruction and peaceful demonstration, no violence.
Speaker 2: But it was, but you didn't. I'm just saying that
Speaker 2: you did not have a peaceful demonstration four years ago
Speaker 2: and today, thank god, there was no crowd of Democrats
Speaker 2: who were saying we're going to take the election back.
Speaker 2: We can't have Trump. They said, Okay, the election's over.
Speaker 2: Trump won. We're not happy about it, but he's the
Speaker 2: president elect. That Wentswood went on today, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was relieved that it went along as peacefully as
Speaker 2: it did.
Speaker 4: I wanted it to be. Would you agree with me
Speaker 4: that if it was a peaceful demonstration, and not the
Speaker 4: way it was.
Speaker 2: What it wasn't a peaceful demonstration.
Speaker 4: I know, but would you agree with a peaceful demonstration.
Speaker 2: I'm always in favor of peaceful demonstrations, but that crowd
Speaker 2: was intent. There were people in that crowd who were
Speaker 2: intent on causing destruction in Mayhem.
Speaker 4: I agree with you, all right, Joe, we're.
Speaker 2: Going to agree with this.
Speaker 4: Agree you respect to let me make my point.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 2: No, You're always welcome, Joe, Thank you very much. We'll
Speaker 2: take a quick break here. Happy New Year. By the way,
Speaker 2: we haven't spoken back. Happy to you, okay, thanks much.
Speaker 2: Six one seven, two, five, four to ten thirty triple
Speaker 2: eight nine two nine ten thirty or or six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I'm making a really simple
Speaker 2: point here. I celebrate the way it went today. I
Speaker 2: was not happy with the way it went in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I hope you'll all agree, but obviously I don't have
Speaker 2: complete agreements with everybody, so feel free to make your point.
Speaker 2: I think we took a step back in the right
Speaker 2: direction today. I think there was a lot of arguments
Speaker 2: that were made during the campaign. I think that there
Speaker 2: was a lot of heated discussion. UH, allegations that certain
Speaker 2: candidates were fascists and all of that. I don't think
Speaker 2: that helps, and I think hopefully we can turn that
Speaker 2: down during the next election. Back on Nightside, right after
Speaker 2: these messages, after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: It's night Side, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the phones we go. Let me go
Speaker 2: to Theodore in Baltimore theaterre next on Nightside. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5: I'm good and hoping you have a new, good new year.
Speaker 5: But I'm right back. I'm I'm really disgusted, for instance,
Speaker 5: that that that last person was so out of touched.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you you need to pull up the
Speaker 5: video of the Vice president signing in the Louisiana senator.
Speaker 5: White guy. He wouldn't shake her hand. And I'm gonna
Speaker 5: tell you, Dan the integnity country.
Speaker 2: Wha was Hold on? Hold what wa? Well? Hold on
Speaker 2: for a second. You went by me. Are you talking
Speaker 2: about House Speaker Johnson?
Speaker 5: No, the Vice President signed had to swear in a senator,
Speaker 5: a new senator from Louisiana. He was there with his
Speaker 5: wife and children. He would not even shake her hand.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna tell you sometimes when I listen to
Speaker 5: you talk, it's almost like you're in Neverland. I hope
Speaker 5: we no, No, look at the situation.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 5: Now I'm African American. You got a guy in a
Speaker 5: white house. You don't think I'm anything. He hates me.
Speaker 5: I got a whole party of people who don't look
Speaker 5: like me. He looked like him. Banning book to tell
Speaker 5: the truth about history.
Speaker 2: And I have a hold on hold So when you
Speaker 2: what hold on, hold on just for a second. Donald
Speaker 2: Trump Theodore did better amongst black voters and Hispanic voters
Speaker 2: than any Republican has I guess it in the last
Speaker 2: hundred years.
Speaker 5: Maybe, well, that may be true, but people who say,
Speaker 5: well it's a man did across all ethnicities, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5: If you look at one hundred people that voted for
Speaker 5: Donald Trump, ninety two percent of them were white men
Speaker 5: and women. About three percent, which was more were black people.
Speaker 5: The rest were Latinos who voted for them. I don't
Speaker 5: know why. But the thing about is the tenor in
Speaker 5: this country is such if there's another election, and I
Speaker 5: say if, because these people, once they get the criminal
Speaker 5: aliens out, they're come going to have to meet my people,
Speaker 5: the only thing we could get in this.
Speaker 2: So therefore, therefore, all the all the black people, all
Speaker 2: the black people who voted for Donald Trump, including you know,
Speaker 2: black members, including black US senators, including black Republican members
Speaker 2: of Congress.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you what they are, Dan, let me
Speaker 5: tell you what they are. They belonged to the ship
Speaker 5: like Paul group. Stupid, self hating individual people. That's what
Speaker 5: they are. They vote against their own interests. And I'm
Speaker 5: gonna tell you, Dan, just the signs of who he is,
Speaker 5: and the fact that people who call themselves Christians, Christians,
Speaker 5: they go to church and say they're they're they're against abortion,
Speaker 5: they're against sin. But a man who's a liar, who
Speaker 5: are soft women, But yet he goes against all the
Speaker 5: moral standings and pillars that those people say I should have.
Speaker 5: I have nothing but contempt for the people who vote
Speaker 5: for him. They have no integrity whatsoever. They stand in
Speaker 5: the poor pit and say, we're Christians and we want
Speaker 5: people to do right. But look how they did it.
Speaker 5: Look how they put him in there. And they say
Speaker 5: it was race, it wasn't race. Well, look if their
Speaker 5: commune is bad and prices are high, which they are.
Speaker 5: They then went out and spend fifty billion dollars on
Speaker 5: Black Friday, So how does the economy look then? And
Speaker 5: he wanted to tear up the government. And I'm going
Speaker 5: to tell you if okay, you know, you know what
Speaker 5: I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: You know, Theodore, We've had some really nice conversations in
Speaker 2: recent times, but this is not a nice one. By
Speaker 2: the way, I am looking at the video that you're
Speaker 2: referring to, uh, and it is a husband of a
Speaker 2: Republican senator from Nebraska, not from Louisiana.
Speaker 5: The wife shook his hands, but he didn't. And I'm
Speaker 5: going to tell you.
Speaker 2: No, I would love do me a favor, do me
Speaker 2: a favor. Okay, Okay, Theodore, don't interrupt me. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to I'm trying to explain to the audience in a
Speaker 2: in a way in which you can understand what you
Speaker 2: said was true. And what I'm doing here is explaining
Speaker 2: to you that, yes, Senator Fisher shook the Vice President's hand,
Speaker 2: and the husband did ignorantly refuse to shake Vice President
Speaker 2: Harris's hand. So you know, you don't have to jump
Speaker 2: down my throat on this. Okay, Now, everything else you've
Speaker 2: said everything else you've said today, I'm going to disagree
Speaker 2: with because you're not the smartest black guy in America.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of black people voted for Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: and you want to think they're ignorant or they're idiots.
Speaker 2: That's your privilege. But I don't feel that way.
Speaker 6: Dan.
Speaker 5: I'm not jumping down your throat. It's just the passion
Speaker 5: of the issue. And I look at things in a
Speaker 5: realtic basis. He's not gonna hurt you. You at a level, well,
Speaker 5: he's not gonna hurt you. He's not gonna hurt your people.
Speaker 5: I'm saying this.
Speaker 2: I like, Okay, you've said it once, Theodore, You've said
Speaker 2: it once. We've gone five minutes. I'm not gonna have
Speaker 2: you repeat it. You made your points. I disagree with them.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, whether you like him or not, or whether
Speaker 2: I like him or not, had more supporters amongst black
Speaker 2: voters and Latino voters than any Republican has in a
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: Maybe we write that off to the failures of the
Speaker 2: Bidy administration. Maybe we write that off to the fact
Speaker 2: that inflation hurt poor people worse than it hurt wealthy
Speaker 2: white people. I don't know but that's reality.
Speaker 5: Then if the people who are so smart voter for
Speaker 5: Trump were so smart, yeah, he's gonna raise turfs, He's
Speaker 5: going to give a tax cut. Eighty five percent of
Speaker 5: his class tax cut went to the wealthy people in
Speaker 5: your class. Why doesn't he turn that around? And they
Speaker 5: and I get away the bare bones, The bare bones
Speaker 5: is that he hates the government. Forget about hate me
Speaker 5: my people. He wants to take over the government.
Speaker 2: And there there's millions of people. There's millions of people
Speaker 2: Theodore in your economic category, white, black, and Hispanic who
Speaker 2: disagree with you. And I hate to lay that on you,
Speaker 2: but that's reality. I gotta run. Thanks, Thanks, you've gone along.
Speaker 2: You've gone longer probably than anyone else will in this hour.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Jack on the Cape. Jack
Speaker 2: on Cape Cod, Welcome, How are you tonight? Gee? I
Speaker 2: thought going to have a nice quiet hour here to
Speaker 2: live and go right ahead. Jack.
Speaker 6: Hey, Dan, in the past, you and I have butted
Speaker 6: heads on this topic, but I'm really interested, thankful for
Speaker 6: your gracious and soothing perspective on where we are because
Speaker 6: we got to go forward.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and.
Speaker 6: You know, I mean, whatever happened in the past is
Speaker 6: the past, and we're not going to be labeled that.
Speaker 6: And I just want to have kind of a meeting
Speaker 6: of the minds. Is that the voting technology, the technology
Speaker 6: of voting has to be absolutely sacrisanct and can never
Speaker 6: be challenged, which we'll agree that in twenty twenty we
Speaker 6: had issues, and that if we can go forward in
Speaker 6: a mutual agreement on all parties and all peoples and
Speaker 6: and ideally set the standard for the world, that we
Speaker 6: develop a technology of voting that is absolutely sound and
Speaker 6: that we can.
Speaker 2: I would agree with you that I would always say this,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to sound like I'm playing to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. I hope that the next election,
Speaker 2: if it turns out that the Democrats win, that the
Speaker 2: Republicans will be as gracious as the Democrats seem to
Speaker 2: be today. That's all. Well, the only criticism I had.
Speaker 6: Everything is verifiable and is indisputable. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 6: The problem, of course, we had problems.
Speaker 2: Of course, Look that I'm not making any excuse for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. For twenty twenty Okay, obviously there was
Speaker 2: a different sort of president, and it's an incumbent Donald Trump. Uh,
Speaker 2: you had COVID going on. There were there were some
Speaker 2: changes and all of that, but the reaction of Trump
Speaker 2: and the reaction of that crowd that he summoned to
Speaker 2: Washington was totally unacceptable period. End of statement.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, do you think do you
Speaker 6: think there's going to be in this the upcoming administration?
Speaker 6: Do you think there's going to be investigations into this
Speaker 6: this affair or is this going to be kind of like,
Speaker 6: let's move on type situation.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would hope that if there is
Speaker 2: anything to be investigated in terms of January sixth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, it is not some form of retribution. I
Speaker 2: hope that I would like to see us move on
Speaker 2: and just say it was a bad day. It was
Speaker 2: a bad day, and we have restored the process. Today.
Speaker 6: What we do with the people that are imprisoned, they
Speaker 6: serve their sentences. No, they're still there. You've got some
Speaker 6: people that have been sent for twenty years.
Speaker 2: Well, I looked, Well, I'm going to tell you, in
Speaker 2: every case, if someone has been over sentenced, they go
Speaker 2: through the they go through the process. But just as
Speaker 2: I don't think President Biden should have pardoned his son,
Speaker 2: I don't think Donald Trump should pardon the J six protesters. Now,
Speaker 2: if there are cases where they were overcharged, if there's
Speaker 2: new evidence, you go through that. But there were there
Speaker 2: were people who who fought and smashed Capitol police officers.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Pardon them for that?
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's let's dand let's bring up that old adage
Speaker 6: that's our our our nation is founded upon called civil disobedience.
Speaker 6: Where does it come into places?
Speaker 2: It's it's not civil disobedience when you when you when
Speaker 2: you smash windows and break down doors and battle police,
Speaker 2: Capitol police officers, that's not civil disobedience. Civil disobedience is
Speaker 2: if people want to try.
Speaker 6: To what good and you had people, you had people
Speaker 6: entering the the the UH the Congressional complex taking pictures
Speaker 6: and being shown around by the police. And these people
Speaker 6: are they're guilty. Damn well, thanks Dan, thanks for bringing
Speaker 6: up the topic number one on this special day and
Speaker 6: to be continued.
Speaker 2: And if if there are individuals who were wrongfully convicted,
Speaker 2: not only should their convictions be overturned in a court
Speaker 2: of law, but then they should have a civil rights
Speaker 2: action against the government. But if somebody was beaten up
Speaker 2: some Capitol police officer whacking them over the head with
Speaker 2: a you know, with a two by four. That guy
Speaker 2: needs needs to serve some time in jail. That's all.
Speaker 2: What's controversial about that.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you bringing the topic up because I think
Speaker 6: it's going to be brought up again. I think we'll.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. I'll look forward to to your
Speaker 2: calling again. I got to run. Jack, Okay, thank you
Speaker 2: very much for your call. As always, we're going to
Speaker 2: try to get to everybody. Dave, Eric, John, and John.
Speaker 2: We're going to get to you. I promise right after
Speaker 2: this b radio back to the phones we go. Let's
Speaker 2: go next to John and Boston. John, we're tight on time.
Speaker 6: I know you.
Speaker 2: I've given a lot of people a longer time than
Speaker 2: they deserve, So I'm gonna ask you to be a
Speaker 2: little quick for me.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, John, Thanks share this little record. I just
Speaker 7: wanted this. Plenty of video of President Trump saying asking
Speaker 7: the people peacefully, patriotically march by the Capitol and by
Speaker 7: the way.
Speaker 2: In the ABC News network report tonight, that was cut
Speaker 2: out and there was a uh and that was that
Speaker 2: was wrong for a reporter to do that to take
Speaker 2: that out it It was wrong period and I mentioned
Speaker 2: that earlier.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 7: Also among those who did do some violence, they were
Speaker 7: FBI agents instigating violence operatives, and it would ask directorwa
Speaker 7: He was asked that question by I believe it was
Speaker 7: a commission or senator. He refused to answer the question.
Speaker 7: Danswer the They also the try the guy who who
Speaker 7: dropped the bomb off at the pipe off with the DNC.
Speaker 7: They know who he is. They have it on video
Speaker 7: of the guy going to the area, and they also
Speaker 7: can try and.
Speaker 2: I don't know who he is. Do you know who
Speaker 2: he is?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 7: The FBI knows.
Speaker 2: How do you know that?
Speaker 7: How do you know that?
Speaker 2: John? John? How do you know that?
Speaker 3: You make it?
Speaker 7: But just Manaus you got someone on TV.
Speaker 2: Once you see someone on it, once you see a
Speaker 2: figure on video, it doesn't mean that you know who
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 8: Come on, John, Yeah, I didn't say I know who.
Speaker 7: I'm saying. They know that.
Speaker 4: The FBI.
Speaker 7: They can triangulate the cell phon because the guy had
Speaker 7: a cell phone with them.
Speaker 2: There's plenty of well, I'll tell you what, John, John,
Speaker 2: here's the deal, John, here's the deal. Cash PTEL is
Speaker 2: likely to be the next director of the FBI. If
Speaker 2: that information is available, then we will we will have
Speaker 2: the identification of that person. But I don't think it's
Speaker 2: going to be available.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, bottom line is Dan Nancy Puls who was
Speaker 7: in charge toy should deny the ten thousand troops offered
Speaker 7: by Trump. And there's plenty of video. Why were they
Speaker 7: escorting Why were the capitol police escorting the guy with
Speaker 7: the horns and tobacco man? Why were they bringing him through?
Speaker 7: And why is their video of cops telling people to
Speaker 7: go in waving them in. I want to know that
Speaker 7: and they can find on who those cops are they
Speaker 7: Capitol who cops waving people in to go to the Keple?
Speaker 7: Just like Jon, you know I'm making.
Speaker 2: I'm not litigating this. I'm not litigating this. You will.
Speaker 2: You've said what you had to say. I gave you
Speaker 2: an opportunity disagree with you totally. Were there people who
Speaker 2: who somehow walked into the Capitol and didn't do damage? Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine. Now if they can prove that they were
Speaker 2: invited in and some Capitol police officer said, oh welcome, John,
Speaker 2: How are you good? Where are you from Boston? What's
Speaker 2: your first name. Let me get a picture with you.
Speaker 2: That person should not be prosecuted. But the animals who
Speaker 2: smashed windows, who hit Capitol police officers over the head.
Speaker 2: I saw those pictures. You saw those pictures. Should those
Speaker 2: people be in jail? Ill?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, just as much as any FBI operative who would instigated?
Speaker 4: And why?
Speaker 2: Who proof of that? John? I gotta run, man, I
Speaker 2: gotta run.
Speaker 7: Okay, somebody opened those big doors then to the Capitol.
Speaker 7: They're huge doors. Somebody opened them allow the people to
Speaker 7: come in.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks, John, Thanks appreciating.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: We're not going to litigate this. It's as simple as that. Tonight.
Speaker 2: I tried to do a positive here. So far it's
Speaker 2: not been very positive. John in handover, Johnny, gotta be
Speaker 2: quick for me.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, John, Hey, Dan, thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 8: Good to talk here. I have a couple of things
Speaker 8: food for thought.
Speaker 1: Mostly, you know what cognitive biases are?
Speaker 6: Heuristics are?
Speaker 2: Do what cognitive biases are? I think I do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I read a book a short time ago. Daniel
Speaker 1: Conneman and Amos Turfsky wrote it. They won the Nobel
Speaker 1: Prize for their work. They're psychologists, but they won the
Speaker 1: Nobel Prize. And economics because they coined prospect theory, which
Speaker 1: is basically on how humans divaluate risk and make decisions.
Speaker 1: Cognitive biases and juristics is how we perceive information, how
Speaker 1: we digest it and make opinions. And I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of how like people like Trump voters and people
Speaker 1: like THEO who called and shortly before, so far apart,
Speaker 1: and it has to do with something one of the
Speaker 1: many cognitive biases out there, something called the anchor effect bias.
Speaker 1: When you're trying to learn stuff, repetition is huge, Right,
Speaker 1: So when three of the major networks are constantly using
Speaker 1: terms like racist, sexist, is homophobic, it has an anchoring
Speaker 1: effect on people, and they just associate Trump with that, right.
Speaker 2: I also think I also think that we have in
Speaker 2: our society people who just only want to listen to
Speaker 2: what they happen to believe in whatever personal experiences in
Speaker 2: the life they have had. So you know, I wish
Speaker 2: you had called earlier because because I got I get
Speaker 2: two more. I'd like to accommodate. And I think you've
Speaker 2: opened up an entire conversation that could last for an
Speaker 2: hour and maybe.
Speaker 3: We could get something.
Speaker 4: On this.
Speaker 2: That's great and I appreciate good night, okay, Eric and Attenborough.
Speaker 2: Eric gotta be quick for me. I got you in
Speaker 2: one more go ahead, Eric.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, good to talk to you. Danne.
Speaker 8: I just wanted to quickly say that a gentleman before
Speaker 8: that said we need a technology that works to be
Speaker 8: able to count the votes. Well, we used to have
Speaker 8: something just called ballots, and then we had people that
Speaker 8: counted the ballots. And uh, since Tim memoriam it worked
Speaker 8: out this fire, I think we need to like got it?
Speaker 2: I think I would agree with you. And by the
Speaker 2: way they were, they were congressional districts in California that
Speaker 2: even with all of the new technology they they those
Speaker 2: races weren't decided for two or three weeks, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how much time?
Speaker 2: One minute? Eric, I got to let you go. I'm
Speaker 2: told I got one minute. Okay, but I agree with
Speaker 2: I think the point you had is a good one.
Speaker 2: Rob Brooks, thank you very much, Mariita, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: I hope all of you who didn't call got the
Speaker 2: point I was trying to make. And if you didn't
Speaker 2: call and you got the point I was trying to make,
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed you didn't call. Ud anight everybody. I think
Speaker 2: I'm going to do Facebook Live at midnight. I might
Speaker 2: change my mind. Nights out with Dan Ray. Old dogs,
Speaker 2: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's what my
Speaker 2: pal Charlie Ray is, who passed fifteen years ago in February.
Speaker 2: That's where all your pets are past. They loved you,
Speaker 2: you loved them. I hope you see them again, to
Speaker 2: see again in the morning. Everybody, good night,