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Speaker 2: I let's talk some college football on Cougar Sports with

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into college football and the inside of Big twelve. Inside

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Locked On network. Locked On Big twelve hosts. We got

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Drake C. Toll on the line. Drake, how you living?

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Speaker 1: Ben? It's fun. I'm sitting right here Sundays Resort, right

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outside of Provo, Utah, getting ready for Arizona BYU tonight

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in the Marriott Center. Could not be more excited to

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be back out west and on the air with you.

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Speaker 2: How lovely you, Sundt. That's where we got married, me

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and my wonderful wife, my better half. That's one of

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my favorite places on earth, the Foundry. Love that place.

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They don't pay for me to say these things. By

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the way, love it all. The Cowboy Bar there, the

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the Owl Bar, if you will, that place is great

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as well.

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Speaker 1: Love it. The whole experience has been awesome. You know,

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it's interesting to hear a lot of YU fans like, oh, Sunday,

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that is right there, isn't it? Like, yeah, it's just

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right there. You can go. You know, they allow that

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you can do it. So I'm taking full advantage this week.

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It's been a great place to stay and look, I

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could not be more comfortable, rested, and ready to go

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for tonight. It's a huge night in Oops. I don't

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we'll talk a lot about.

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Speaker 2: Boom shocka Locke. I know the dust is settled on

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the college football season. How would you evaluate how would

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you grate out the Big Twelve college football season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think the Big Twelve was far better in

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twenty twenty five compared to twenty twenty four, just because

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we had actually teams in the conversation, teams competing at

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the top of college football, Texas Tech being one of them.

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You know, the way America viewed the ACC this year

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with Duke and oh no Virginia and wow, Miami sneaks

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in despite not winning the conference, That's kind of how

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the Big Twelve was viewed in twenty twenty four. Arizona

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State end, we were the league that got a team

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in due to the loophole in the rules, and this

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year it wasn't like that we didn't have to get

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a lifeline given by some rule that a conference chimpion

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needs to be in the in the top four or

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the top two wealth this year Texas Tech certainly earned it.

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Now at the same time, you feel completely scorned if

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you're a BYU fan and scorned if you're Bret, you're

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should feel scorned. His purpose has not sounded that way.

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But a Big twelve fan Big Twelve, you know, fans

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and those who root for the conference, how how did

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you leave BYU out and just sit on your love

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and say that's okay? I think you look at the

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scope of this season side of the Texas Tech got

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it to due. But you wonder how Utah and BYU

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Houston Arizona did not get must respect and you worry

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about your standing for college football to come based on

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how you were treated in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Did you do you feel like, who's your favorite right

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now to win the Big Twelve? I know we're doing

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all these way too early or rankings and ratings. Who's

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your way too early? What's your way too the rankings?

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Maybe one through five of the Big Twelve? I didn't

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prep you for this, but you know, give me some

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of your favorites here to win the conference twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: If you could. I think BYU, Texas Tech, and Shuston

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who's gonna be good again? Texas Tech returns six thousand,

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seven ninety nine snaps on the offensive line BYU returns

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six thousand, three hundred and seventy. Both of those are

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top fifteen in the country. That shows me they will

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both have staying power in the conference because they're o

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lines that were both quite solid will earn next season.

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I think that Shuston, who has six thousand, five hundred

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and twenty two slightly about BYU, will also be in

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that mix and in that conversation. Arizona is still a

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team to watch, so I think given their schedule, they

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will take a slight dip this year, but I I'm

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leaning on Texas Tech, BYU s Houston. The other two

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teams that would throw in that five would still be

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Utah's because I think the Uths will start five to

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oho six and five and one this season and have

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a really nice path to early success that will propel

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them into a comfortable spot in the late season. But

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watch out for Oklahoma State. They said, Hey, whatever Kurt

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Signetti do can do, we can do as well. They

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returned then the fifth most snaps on their offensive line

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in the country. Now, their offensive line was terrible, But

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here's what that means. It means they can be picky,

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they can be choosy, they can bring competition in and

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still have guys who have played Oklahoma State with through

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Messamaker at quarterback, Eric Morris's head coach, he said, what

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Indiana did with James Madison Kurt Signetti, that whole rebuild,

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we want to do the same thing. Will it work

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day one?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it will work. Will when you a national championship? No,

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but it will help you compete in the Big twelve.

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I think Oklahoma State ends up winning eight or nine

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games this year in a complete turnaround. But you best

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know that Texas Tech and BYU Houston they will be

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the top three in the Big twelve. Again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma State has gone very aggressive in the portal too.

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have one of the better portal hauls. I would say

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they picked up some some pretty nice prospects from a

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multitude of power five, power power four institutions.

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Speaker 1: They did, and it's it's People are like, oh, it's

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just North Texas, North, this is North Texas light kind

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a large portion of their transfers do come from North Texas.

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Dominic Macon from Washington, Ei White from Penn State, through

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Albery from Vanderbilt. The list goes on of players that

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they went and grabbed from other power for schools like

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SMU and Louisville and even Texas Tech. They are building

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right now, not just from North Texas. They're going and

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grabbing legitimate guys out of the transfer portal. But yeah,

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there are three stars that ban. If we've learned anything

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it's that the portal star system is broken. They're giving

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stars to anybody and taking stars away from anybody. Oklahoma

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State is grabbing guys who are great out of high school,

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grabbing guys who were solid into powerful ranks, and they're

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flipping them on their roster this year. I have a

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lot of confidence what they're going to do. And then

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the transfer portal similarly this year, which is a weird

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thing to say because BYU is seventh in the Big

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twelve Conference in Transfer portal rankings this year and Texas

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coming back. Like the players are returning, you don't have

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to replace that much. You're just kind of positive attrition

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to get rid of the guys who weren't really contributors

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to the guys who entered the portal, by and large,

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weren't massive cruxes for BYU to win in twenty twenty five.

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got twenty one guys, but a good portion of what

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they're bringing in are players that are going to compete,

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not start. They will compete for starting jobs and possibly start,

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but not be instantly out yet that you know we're

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gonna play you. And an exception to that rule be

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Brendan Soars beat their quarterback, and an exception for BYU

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would be their linebacking corpse. They brought guys in not

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just to compete, but to start d one at the

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linebacker position understanding what they're losing. And I like the

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way that be to attacked the linebacker position of the

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transfer portal. They did not say, Hey, let's just go

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get a hodgepotch of everybody. They said, let's go get

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what we need and from there allow the guys on

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our current roster to compete.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that Brendan Soursby is an upgrade to

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Baron Morton.

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Speaker 1: Upgrade? Yes, savior of the program. No, can he win

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a game of the college football playoffs? I do believe that,

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Swordsy this year. He didn't have a wealth of riches necessarily,

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but the cover wasn't beyar. It's a decent Cincinnati roster

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he was working with, and he was a fifty good quarterback.

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I won't take that away from him. But was he

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a five star in the portal? Was he an elite

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portal pickup? Was he better than Josh Hooper? A better

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pickup than Josh Hooper, ah better pick up than Sam

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levitt Ay? But no, I don't remember Brendan Sorsby for

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the first seven games of the season. I remember him

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for the last five games of the year.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I'm a what have you done

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to me lately? Kind of guy. People are forgetting the

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drop off, the fall off a Cincinnati had this year,

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Brendan Soarsy had this year. So I think the Texas

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Tech is better with Sworsby versus Baron Morton. Yes, better

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is the right word. Okay, signing a National championship caliber quarterback,

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I cannot say yes at this time.

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Speaker 2: We got Drake Tole here on ESPN. The fan Locked on,

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locked on Big twelve is what he represents, amongst other things.

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He's a very busy man. Give us a briefuffday really quick.

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Because you have your own radio show now as well

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as being a part of the Locked On Big twelve network.

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You do a lot of things. You're moving to groove

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So play by play with the Savannah Bananas organization.

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I'll be calling a game Friday part of our spring training.

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We're getting ready. Jackie Bradley Junr got a hit in

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this first ab with the organization in spring training. This

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which is really cool to see and so yeah, still

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calling games for those guys. That season kicked up here

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Show every morning six am to nine am Eastern Time,

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today to do the show from here just outside of Provo.

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And then Amazon Fire TV's College Football Kickoff with formerly

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with coach Gary Patterson. I'm not sure if he'll be

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able to come back with us next fall. He's kind

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of tied of a usc alongside the Dallas Cowboy Jesse Hotley.

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That's of course locked on Big twelve. So the better

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question is, Ben, what am I not doing? And when

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am I sleeping?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know what you are. I'm a

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busy man. I'm an entrepreneur myself running a couple of

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businesses and then doing this radio gig is for fun.

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You're very, very busy, a busy bee if you will.

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And you were busy on Saturday night as well. You

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covered I think the byu Utah Holy War on the

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hardwood and then went over to Chubby's, one of our

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favorite places to eat, give us a breakdown of the game,

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and then in the and the post game experience as well.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool, Ben. That atmosphere is fantastic, and I

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don't think I saw the Marriott Center at That's the

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best part is Yeah, it's a rivalry, but it reminded

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me a lot of when Baylor would play PCU and

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basketball Baylor was always so much better that. Yeah, it

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was a rivalry and everybody showed up and you're like, Okay,

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we're gonna beat the doors off these guys. And boy

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this team is best. And gosh when it did come

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alive when AJ dropped his fortieth point, that it was

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a mad out. That place was as rockets and as

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loud as you will find in arena in the Big

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Twelve Conference. It was as electric environment as you will

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find in college basketball today. Given the implications for BYU,

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given the fact to our top fifteen team, how did

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they set up? I'm gonna throw up, Ben, I'm gonna

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throw up. How is the seventeen and two team five

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and one and Big Twelve play thirteenth in America? The

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disrespecting football is carried over to basketball. They have one

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of the best home atmospheres you could ever contract, and

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they still don't get any respect. I was blown away

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on Saturday by BYU. Blown away by ag Debontsa. He

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is the most twenty five year old teenager that I've

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ever been around. Like he carries himself. He looks like

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he's in his mid twenties. He's ready for the NBA,

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but he's still in college basketball playing for BYU. Loved

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everything about the Myria Etcent, everything that I saw, But

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I know tonight will be amplified times five, times ten

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because Number one Arizona is coming to down tickets at

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their cheapest are two hundred dollars, and BYU have still,

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I guess for the other talking heads a lot to

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prove their game tonight. But Ben loved Saturday, loved Chubbies

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afterward and getting to meet hundreds of people who showed

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up for a post game show and a meet and greet.

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And he has just the heart of BYU and just

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a lot of good people with good hearts, good attentions

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that loved their school. And it's really neat to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Byus. We had a deep discussion right when all

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these new schools came into the Big twelve and you've

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added a few other schools, right, and as you evaluate

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the new acquisitions, the acquisitions from the old PAC twelve

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may at rest in peace the Conference of Champions. And

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you look at the the ucfs and they obviously byus

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and these G sixers that came to the to the

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to the fold of the Big twelve. You know, how

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would you grate out those acquisitions top the bottom? What's

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been the best acquisition for the Big twelve? Would you say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still it's BYU at one and Deon Sanders

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at one b right, Like it's it's hard to say

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even Colorado, but Deon Sanders, the edition of his presence

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in the conference has been huge. The reason it's BYU

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at one is in large part because of this beautiful

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merger between elite level athletics, commitment to football, basketball, the

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revenue sports, and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter

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day Saint. You're grabbing one of the most passionate groups

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of people in the world, in the world, one of

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the fastest growing faiths in the world, and you take

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their flags of university and you slap a big twelve

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patch on their shoulder, and you grab one of the

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best rivalries, one of the most underrated rivalries in all

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of college football, all of college sports. With the Holy

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War BYU in Utah. You added to this conference and

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it's brought a whole different level of care. And you know,

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even something with Texas and Oklahoma, everybody hated Texas and

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know you, they hated the rivalry. You didn't pick sides.

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You wanted both teams to lose because they were so

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pompous with BYU and Utah. I think some Youthes fans

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of how vocal they've been about how they want to

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go to the Big Ten and maybe they feel maybe

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they're validated and feeling expited by that they have garnered

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their their reputation of being kind of the heel of

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the Big Twelve, and a lot of fan bases love BYU.

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They come to their stadiums, they bring the ice cream,

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they bring the cougar tails, and they have started to

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find a soft spot for this school who is underrated, underrepresented,

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under underappreciated in the Big twelve, and that is BYU.

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I think they've been a great acquisition because of their

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ability to win and their ability to merge with the conference,

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embraced the conference so much. Maybe That's what I'm looking

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for here, Ben BYU has embraced the conference more than

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anybody else out of these new eighths.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd agree with you there. It seems like I mean, look,

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they were on the outside looking. They were wandering the

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wilderness for a long time during independence Mound West and

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the Whack and kind of always felt stiff armed. But

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now they're They're a part of the power structure. Even

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though the Big Twelve has been viewed by some as

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the redheaded stepped out of the power conferences. Do you

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think that they're in a position to be ranked at

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number three in front of the accio or has did

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the the Miami team kind of set the Big twelve

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behind and like the lack of productivity and the lack

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of maybe a good showing from Texas Act. Did that

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hurt us in that question to be the power three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think the problem is this is me

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being a little down, but it's honesty. The problem is

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there is such a large gap right now from a

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revenue standpoint between two and three. It's kind of an

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afterthought that fight for third versus fourth, fourth versus third

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is one that I think the rest of the country

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isn't quite paying attention to because they're so dialed into

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the SEC in the Big Ten, and even more honestly,

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the number one spot in the country belongs to the

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Big Ten and there's a pretty sizable gap between them

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and the SEC now before starting to see the class

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of college football rise out of the Big Ten. For

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the Big Twelve Conference losing out on a college Football

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playoff victory again this year, I don't think it was

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harred by what Miami did, and the reason is the

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winner of the ACC was in Miami. It was due

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eight and five. Embarrassing and complete embarrassment from the ACC

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that their league champion was eight and five Dukes who

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lost to Yukon. That gave the Big Twelve still a

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lot that you saved face by having to keep my

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Texas Tech go downinton conference play and be respected amongst

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its peers in the country. That puts the Big Twelve

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in a great spot even though they did not win.

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Texas second is still a name. You're hearing the top five,

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top seven, top eight going in the next season. That's

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important to the Big Twelve Conference. I think the ACC is,

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especially given the Miami and Cuns in Florida state probably

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won't out. They're not in a great spot.

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Speaker 2: Drag. I got an interesting question for you that I

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think your insight and your opinion on would be insightful.

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So last week we had it as our question. Today,

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the NCAA approved the logos of these corporate sponsors. Right,

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you can throw a patch on your on your on

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your jersey, and then I think you can also wrap

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a corporate sponsor on your equipment. Right, you're you're abreast

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of that, I imagine, correct, Yeah, no doubt. Okay, all right,

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so you're a breast of this. So we had the

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conversation around, okay, well what what what b YU friendly

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brand would be best for BYU athletics, And some people

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jokingly said, hey, why not the logo that the Church

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of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints use it. It's

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the Christus, right and throw it on there. It's like, okay,

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like that could be viewed as controversial putting Christ Christ's

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logo on an athletic uniform. But the sponsoring institution is

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the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints for

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Brigham Young University. So look, we were kind of discussing

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it a little bit earlier today it's like, okay, well,

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what are you trying to accomplish by playing sport? And

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you know, if it truly is your mission to bring

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people to Christ and introduce people to maybe the positive

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fruits of maybe the church, would that be improper? Would

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that be uncouth? Or would it be would it be

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kosher to do such? Do you think in your opinion?

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Speaker 1: A great question? And I'll answer this to somebody who's

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not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of

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Latter day Saintans. You give the outside perspective of somebody

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who covers the entire Big Twelve. When I went to

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high school and blowing the Yarkansas Little Rock Christian Academy

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down the road, they wore l RCA across their their

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further jersey right or it would say Christian on their uniforms.

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And if they cross behind that, their logo Ben was

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across Central Arkansas Christian. Their logo was across like that.

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That was the forefront of what they did as a school,

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as a private school if they wanted to further this mission,

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and as a private Christian you know, high school, they

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were creating you and the women for Christ. So if

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your BYU, and your goal is that the flagship university

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of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day says,

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the flagship university of a faith needs to be not

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just the front porch of a university institution, to be

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the front porch for that faith. I don't think that

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goes to I mean, like again, we're talking about little

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Rock Christian with the best intention having the cross in

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the middle of their jersey as their logo. I think

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if BYU does that, this is what BYU stands for,

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is what BYU stands on. Ben, here's an example. Can

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I give you an example? Can I do it? Can

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I preaks for a second? Please?

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Speaker 2: I want you to get up on your pulpit please.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna start slapping the table here. We're about

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to go TU. All right. I got a lot of

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buddies who visit TCU, and they would they look, this

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is not against them now, A slight on them, is

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what they said. When you walk on their campus, they

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tell you we are TCU. They are no longer Texas

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Christian University. They're played by play guys for ESPN, for Fox.

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When they're given their game books, their game that they're

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told hey, please only reference us at TCU, and the

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first thing you hear on campus is you can get

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to see as big or as little as you'd like

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when you walk on campus. At Baylor University. My first case,

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it's the reason I went there. They say to the students,

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they say, hey, first thing before we say hello, you

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know your name and we tell you our name. We

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are unapologetically Christian. Now university. Where's the proverbial cross on

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the front of their jersey?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: They want you to know day one? Think one bullet

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point one they are a university of faith. I think

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BYU doing that is not something that steps too far.

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I think the use of that logo is less of

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a sponsorship necessarily. I wouldn't view it as that as

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much as I would. Hey, this is just like a

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high school for their mission, showcasing who they are as

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loudly as they can. I personally have no issue with it.

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As an outsider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I don't think it's gonna happen. It's

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probably gonna be Coca Cola, or it's gonna be you

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know something else, right, maybe trump ble qual Tricks, whatever

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it may be. Mountain America Credit Union, so it'll be

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most likely because I think the athletic department gets to

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eat what it kills. And I'm sure the corporate sponsors

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want additional revenue coming in for for advertiser tell booie

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up there, athletic department. But I do think it would

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be on brand. I think it'd actually be I actually

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think it would be the right thing to do. Remember

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what happened with Tim Tebow. You may have been too young.

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How old are you when the Tim Tebow era was

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going one? Okay? I mean how many people went to

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the interwebs and started googling scripture And I'm trying to

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understand scripture and we're being exposed to the Bible and

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in Christ's teachings.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, and too you have NFL players that

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they put John three sixteen on their EyeBlack. They get fined. Yeah.

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There a guy whose mom died of David D'Angelo Williams,

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whose mom that I hope I can play it correct,

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whose mom passed away a breast cancer. He wore, you know,

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screw cancer or end cancer, you know, cure cancer on

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his EyeBlack, and they find him for it. In a

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world where that's going on, I think institutions like Baylor

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and by you should hold hands and be as vocal

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as vocal as possible.

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Speaker 2: Love that breakdown. Let's preview the BYU U of a

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matchup tonight a big hitting' it's cougar on baby bobcats.

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That's what they are. Wildcats are little baby bobcats and tucks,

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and that's what they are. They're not true wild Cougars.

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This is going to be a dominant performance, I believe

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by ag debotsa coming off of forty three of forty

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Burger versus the Utes. What do you see? What do

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you think will happen tonight at the Merritt Center.

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Speaker 1: Then it's not the Bonster, It's not right. It's not

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Saunders Cada tonight, it's kada Ah. This game goes as

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he goes. I think, because here's the thing. Then, everybody's

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level of college basketball. This is a Final four caliber matchup.

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It's in the lead eight caliber matchup. When you get there,

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everybody has a big three. Everybody's got three. We go

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three deep. We can do that. Hoot your fourth guy

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and it might not be Kata's the fourth best guy

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on the BYU basketball team. But I think with his

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physical presence down low. And and by the way, he's

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not gonna bully some seven foot two kid islamatav Movkrevov

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from Perduce. He's not a bully that guy, right like Kate.

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That's not Kata's game. But for the games, he's consistent

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when he is on, when he is pulling rebounds, when

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he goes eight points twelve boards. You might read that

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out of ninety one. Great, but no. Then his ability

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to scream, his ability to pick and roll, his ability

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demands the middle of the defense when they got the zone,

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that is different. That is the differ, and that will

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be the difference with a by you win over co

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Opete at Arizona over tobyowaka Arizona the very deadly group

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of the Wildcats. And by the way, this is an

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Arizona team where only one of their starters had to

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play more than thirty minutes in their last game against

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West Virginia on Saturday, and they don't have to travel

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that far to go play BYU in this matchup. It

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is fresh on fresh, and that the Coopers needed some

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rest and got it in the middle of the week

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last week, But this is these are two teams. You

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saw it second half, especially clicking right now. If by

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you wouldn't this game. It sent a message to the

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rest of college basketball. And somehow, some way it starts with.

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Speaker 2: Kata, Drake told ladies and gentlemen, Drake, best way to

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Speaker 1: I should say, man, it starts with Cata, but it

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Speaker 2: I was gonna let you ride with Kaba Like I

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love Keba. I just wish he could do more than

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dunk and rebound. But he's getting there, he's developing.

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Speaker 1: Get there. We'll see. I think he'll be. He could

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