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Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and seven, there was one major

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Speaker 1: on bank balance sheets. So you know where people thought

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight two thousand and nine debacle.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when you pull apart the major banking balance sheets,

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Speaker 1: they're actually worse. Today you are.

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Speaker 3: Carrie Lutz. Well, today we're going to bring you person

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Speaker 3: whose predictions are not real positive. He's been right a

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Speaker 3: lot of times more often than he's been wrong. Ave

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Speaker 3: Gilbert is with us AVI. It's great to have you

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Speaker 3: back on. So tell us what lies in store for

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Speaker 3: the markets.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're looking for possibly one more push higher over

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Speaker 1: looking for one more rally up towards fifty eight, fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: run that from my perspective, started all the way back

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Speaker 3: Nineteen thirty two, that's a lot of years. You know,

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Speaker 3: we're talking like ninety one years here. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's a very we're looking at it from

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Speaker 1: a very very long term perspective. From an Elliot wave standpoint,

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Speaker 1: the nineteen twenty nine crash, which bottomed out in nineteen

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Speaker 1: relatively quickly. On two three years is relatively quickly, and

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Speaker 1: we view that as a second wave in the five

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Speaker 1: are right now, we're completing a very very long term

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Speaker 1: third wave. In fact, nineteen forty one, Ralph Nelson Elliott

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Speaker 1: himself predicted this run. He was looking for a seventy

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Speaker 1: and that's that third wave that I'm talking about and

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Speaker 1: as we complete this structure up here, I think it

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Speaker 3: All right, And when we're talking pre call, you're talking

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, one of the things that we're doing

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Speaker 1: they ask us, well, how do we prepare for such

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Speaker 1: an environment? And it's one that we really have in

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Speaker 1: face because there's going to be multiple issues that we're

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Speaker 1: going to be facing. As an example, the banking industry itself,

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Speaker 1: back in two thousand and seven, there was one major

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Speaker 1: on bank balance sheets. So you know, where people thought

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight two thousand and nine debacle,

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Speaker 1: we're looking for is we actually started a service not

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Speaker 1: have been looking for some of the safest banks in

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Speaker 1: So I don't think we're going to have the stomach

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Speaker 3: Uh So you think the banks would actually exchange or

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, what they'll wind up doing my my expectation,

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Speaker 1: And I think people may be left out on the

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Speaker 3: What was what was the last time we had a

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Speaker 1: Well, From an Elliott wave perspective, as I said, we are,

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Speaker 3: Well, good thing is I'll probably be gone for that.

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Speaker 3: So when it gets really bad, and it gets really

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Speaker 1: People have the opportunity to at least prepare and protect

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true too. I don't disagree with you there.

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Speaker 3: So how do you prepare cash?

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Speaker 1: Cash? Is king? Well, the answer is you have to

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Speaker 1: The second thing is, you know, whereas the nineteenth nine

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Speaker 1: exact opposite way. So my expectation for this long term

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Speaker 1: So you know, during the when you expect the crashes

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Speaker 1: For example, two thousand and three to two thousand and

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Speaker 3: Market, multiple crashes, multiple waves, right, yeah, absolutely, all right,

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Speaker 3: So cash in the right bank the gold silver Is

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Speaker 1: Well, Gold and silver we're looking to rally over the

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Speaker 3: Mm So everyone's getting hit. But in times where there's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible, now, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: It's possible. But I mean I think what very few

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Speaker 1: Everybody is still looking for the US dollar collapse. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for a sizeable decline in the the US Dollar

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Speaker 1: you know, whereas people believe the dollar is going to

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Speaker 1: just collapse, I'm not of that same opinion.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the dollar is not going to collapse, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of other currencies are going to, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: but yeah, there is strong potential for that.

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Speaker 1: I don't they're going to come out of this very well, no,

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Speaker 3: So we're heading for a Dark Ages here.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Dark Ages lasted as well, they call

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Speaker 1: They've lasted hundreds of years. That's not what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 3: So what about AI and its potential participation in this mix?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 3: You see anything with AI perhaps lessening this phase or

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Speaker 1: Well, there are many There are many theories about what

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Speaker 1: AI is going to do. Is going to kill employment?

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Speaker 1: I mean there are many theories where it's going to do.

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Speaker 1: The way I look at AIS, I look at it

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Speaker 1: similar to what happened in two thousand. In two thousand,

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Speaker 1: the Internet was going to revolutionize everything. Meanwhile, we then

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Speaker 1: the same way. Everybody believes AI is going to revolutionize

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Speaker 1: I look at it the same way as two thousand.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a reason everybody's looking for hire when the

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Speaker 1: exact opposite potentially can happen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So it's true. But eventually the Internet did revolutionize everything,

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Speaker 3: right sure.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that it's going to have an

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Speaker 1: In two thousand, like I said, we went into a

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Speaker 3: All right, well, anything else should we be buying?

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Speaker 1: Food?

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Speaker 3: Guns, gold, god?

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Speaker 1: Everybody can. Everybody can prepare as they see fit. I

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Speaker 1: would just I would just be very very careful about

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Speaker 1: There really isn't a lot more you need to substist though,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, being debt free, making

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well thanks for this burst of optimism

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Speaker 3: and enthusiasm. We appreciate it. But hey, you got to

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Speaker 3: you got to tell it like it is. You got

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Speaker 3: to call it the way you see it, right, No.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. I know, like I say, I

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Speaker 1: I wake up and I look at my charts, and

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Speaker 1: I pray that I'm wrong. But yeah, I had yet

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Speaker 3: All right, Well we're praying right there with you.

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Speaker 1: Ave.

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Speaker 3: Ave tell us where we find you, how we connect

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Speaker 1: Well, we've got elliottwadcreator dot net. We have a twenty

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Speaker 1: three analysts that cover the world. As they say, we

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