WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.480 Well, let's continue now on this great Friday afternoon in 2 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:10.560 the Tri State redspaceball on today. 3 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.279 First pitch about six'. 4 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:17.280 Ten Fireworks friday underway and coverage begins about five ten 5 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:19.160 right here in The big. One but until, then we 6 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:22.000 had a big powwow took place this morning about an 7 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:26.239 hour ago City hall about the shooting of a person 8 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:30.000 who seemingly pointed a gun at a police. Officer joining 9 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:32.039 you AND i now live Is Ken, cobra the head 10 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:35.280 of THE. Fop Ken. Cober welcome again to The Bill Cunningham. 11 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:37.600 Show and first of, All Ken, cober can you take 12 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:41.359 us through the precursors of what happened that caused this 13 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.079 police officer to find himself in That East Price hill 14 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:45.320 condominium parking. 15 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:45.560 Lot. 16 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:48.600 Yeah, so there were some officers that were given some 17 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:52.520 information about a stolen vehicle that was located at the 18 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.920 back of this apartment. Complex had some plain closed people 19 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:58.640 go see that it was. Occupied they immediately kind of 20 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.119 get out of the area for utiful monsters to. Respond 21 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:04.760 once the uniform officers get, there they along with some 22 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.480 plane clothes, people got to can you know to stop 23 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:10.799 these individuals you investigate? Further they all get out of 24 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.760 the cars take off. Running of course one of them's 25 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:13.319 got a gun in his. 26 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.680 Hand and the vehicle itself was a twenty twenty one 27 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:20.120 Key Tell You ride and the four it was like 28 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.799 a fire. Drill as soon as they realized the gig 29 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.239 was up and they this was was this a stolen? 30 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:28.280 Vehicle do you know if it was actually? Stolen and that's, 31 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.120 uh that's why these four us are in. 32 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:35.319 It, yeah it was stolen From, Edgewood kentucky as well 33 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:38.239 as not only did the one young man have a, 34 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:40.359 gun there was also another stolen gun in the. 35 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.840 Vehicle all, right, now walk us through what. 36 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:46.200 Happened how many police units arrived was a, one two or, 37 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:50.239 three and walkers through what happened just before the future 38 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:51.560 deced and got to the dumpster. 39 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.079 Area so they had a couple of uniform, officers a 40 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:56.719 couple of playing CLOTHES i think there were about five 41 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.239 officers total that as soon as they approached the, vehicle 42 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.200 of course they all take off. Running one gets out 43 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:06.959 with a, gun and an officer as soon as he 44 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:08.919 sees him immediately alert say. 45 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:10.199 Hey he's got a. Gun he's got a. 46 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:14.439 Gun it goes through a couple, dumpsters drops the, gun 47 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:18.360 picks it back, up and as he goes through the two, 48 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:21.919 dumpsters he encounters another police, officer who then points a 49 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.759 gun at this police, officer who, then of, course to 50 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:27.759 save his own, life ends up firing, rounds striking the. 51 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:32.439 Suspect did that police officer have a? Bodycam, yes every 52 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.719 body camera footage of. It so we have clear bodycam 53 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:42.319 footage of a police officer in uniform shooting this fleeing. 54 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:43.400 Criminal is that fair to? 55 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:46.680 Say, well the problem with the body camera, footage and 56 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:47.199 it's clear as. 57 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:48.840 Day the problem is you. 58 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:53.560 Can't the video is so blurry because you have an officer, 59 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:58.039 running you have a suspect running and them Trying they 60 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.400 were trying to slow it. Down the best thing could 61 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.560 to be able to get a freeze. Frame but it's 62 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.000 clear that he has a. GUN i guess the question 63 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.159 is whether he pointed this gun at this police, officer 64 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:10.800 which you have a police officer that's standing ten feet 65 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:13.159 from him that says he pointed this gun at, Me 66 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.439 SO i mean it to, me it's it's pretty clear 67 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:17.439 cut of exactly what. 68 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:22.000 Happened the anti police activist may say there's no video 69 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:23.360 of the actual shot being. 70 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.199 Fired is that true that you have video there's video. 71 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.639 Footage, no there's video footage of. It absolutely all had 72 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.719 body cameras. On it's just the video and it's it's 73 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:34.680 clear as you could see the guy, running you hear 74 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.599 the shots being. Fired the question comes in is and 75 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.360 what the anti police people are asking, is, well did 76 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:43.599 he actually point the gun at? Him and the question 77 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:45.280 THAT i would want to be asking is why did 78 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:47.639 he have a gun in the first? Place why is 79 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:48.879 he running from the police with a. 80 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:53.439 Firearm that's the question that should be. Asked and of 81 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:54.919 course what kind of weapon did he? 82 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.120 Have The it was a nine MILLER i think it's 83 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.960 a nine millimeter semi auto pistol that, had of, course 84 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:01.560 an extended. 85 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.159 Magazine now explain to The american people what is an extended? 86 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:05.800 Magazine? 87 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.639 Uh, so you most magazines for, guns like the ones 88 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.560 that you know that the police, carry you, know it 89 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.639 has a regular capacity. Magazine you can get an extended 90 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.920 magazine which will carry even more rounds that will then 91 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:23.199 hang out of the. Magazine, well that holds holds more, 92 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:24.759 rounds and in this, case that's what was. 93 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.240 Done one might, say what is the purpose of? That 94 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.000 this wasn't not a shooting. Range this is used by 95 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.399 shall we, say, uh gang bangers and others who want 96 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:36.800 to fire as many projectiles as possible at their. 97 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.600 Target. Correct, yeah that's that's safe to. 98 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:43.199 SAY I, now as far as the police officer, himself 99 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:45.040 did he suffer any injuries of any. 100 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:49.079 Type the police officer is physically. 101 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:53.199 Okay, Uh and you, KNOW i spent a great deal 102 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:56.959 of time with him. Yesterday this is a traumatic. Thing 103 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.560 nobody wants to take the life of. Anybody nobody wants 104 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.120 to have their life in, danger you. Know and until 105 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.360 you've looked down the barrel of a, firearm if for 106 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:09.480 anybody that, has it is a very unsettling, feeling knowing 107 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:10.800 that you're about to be. 108 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:11.680 Shot. 109 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.279 Uh so they've got to process, That they've got to 110 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.079 process the fact that they've taken somebody's. Life but at 111 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.959 the end of the, day they do realize that this 112 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:21.920 was the only option they had to do this in 113 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:22.480 order to save. 114 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.720 Themself and the entire incident was only one shot fired 115 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:28.959 fired by either party's, TOTAL a total of one shot 116 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:32.800 was fired only by The cincinnati police. Officer, yeah there 117 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:35.480 were SEVERAL i think the officer fired four or five 118 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:41.720 shots roughly and when was already shots fired by the. Assailant, 119 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.600 No luckily that assailant didn't have. Time the officer was 120 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.160 able to deal with it fairly. Quickly AND i think 121 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:51.959 it's also important to note that the suspect was shot 122 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.759 in the chest and then in the, arm so he 123 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:57.600 clearly was confronting this police. 124 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.800 Officer it wasn't like he was running away from. Him 125 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:01.160 he was shot in the, chest. 126 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:06.240 And so the, assailant the future, decedent was facing the police, 127 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:10.639 officer having, run dropped the, weapon picked it back, up 128 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.439 ran between two. Dumpsters the officer confronts, him and it's 129 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.600 eyebaught an eyeball distance of about ten, feet. 130 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:20.040 Yeah roughly ten. 131 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:22.959 Feet, yeah and you understand both of these they're they're 132 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:24.879 both running at the same, time. 133 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.439 And the entry room to the to the defendant was 134 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.399 in the directly in the, chest which would indicate he 135 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:32.199 was facing the. 136 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:36.040 Officer that'd be. Correct do you know this police? 137 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:38.199 Officer there's only a thousand, cops but do you know? 138 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.439 Him, actually, YES i do know this officer very. 139 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:44.319 Well give me some social history or how many years 140 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:44.879 he's been on the. 141 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:49.120 Force i've been on A i think approximately ten, years 142 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:53.839 very very well respected police, officer awesome, cop always does 143 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:55.519 the right. Thing WHEN i heard the officer that was, 144 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.519 involved you're driving to these, things and you, KNOW i 145 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.519 got a thousand things going through my. Mind and as 146 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.000 soon as they told me who the officer, WAS i 147 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:04.800 immediately kind of took a deep breath AND i, WENT 148 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.040 i don't know what, happened BUT i can almost guarantee 149 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.240 with ninety nine point nine percent certainty that this is 150 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.360 going to be a justified shooting BECAUSE i know the 151 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:14.000 character of this. 152 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:17.240 Officer was this the first shot this officer ever fired 153 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:18.240 in the line of? 154 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.759 DUTY i believe. 155 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:21.000 So. 156 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:24.639 NOW i know this officer had been he had been 157 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.600 in a couple of other critical, instance BUT i believe 158 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.079 this is the first time that they've actually been involved 159 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:32.199 in a situation where they had to. 160 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:36.240 Fire does this assailant to? Defend did they have a 161 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:39.240 previous criminal? Record that's my. 162 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:45.639 UNDERSTANDING i know they're trying to definitively id who the deceased. 163 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.879 Is they were having some, Issues but my understanding is 164 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.639 they believe they've identified. Them if it is the person 165 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:56.120 that they, believe they have a pretty extensive criminal. History 166 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:00.160 how old is? He if it's the one that they're talking. 167 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:01.519 ABOUT i believe he's eighteen years. 168 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:04.079 Old and there were two apprehended in the. Woods the other. 169 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:08.279 Three one is still out so to, speak BUT k 170 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:12.480 nine units in. Etc found the other two and their 171 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:18.120 names are In the names Are Jarrell austin eighteen and 172 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.040 The Anthony bullock's. Nineteen they were charged WITH rsp And 173 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.879 i'm stretching official business waiting for other charges to be. 174 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:29.600 Filed when this defendant was shot and he's on the, 175 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:31.800 ground what did the shooting police officer do? 176 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.679 Next as soon as it was safe to do, so 177 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:40.720 they started immediately rendering first aid until the fire department. 178 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:46.759 Arrived and that would be what, SPECIFICALLY i, mean the 179 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.559 first thing you do is obviously try to stop the. 180 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.639 Bleeding i'm not sure if they tried to DO cpr or, 181 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:55.360 not BECAUSE i haven't seen that portion body camera, footage 182 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:57.919 BUT i know that they did try to render first 183 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.080 aid until the fire department cut. There DID cpd do 184 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.919 to apprehend Mister austin and Mister. Bullocks they weren't at the, 185 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.720 scene is that fair to? Say they they were running 186 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.240 through the. Woods and we're talking about yesterday morning at 187 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:15.320 nine thirty am and it wasn't, rainy but it was 188 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:18.799 the Woods i'm sure was extremely wet and. Damp what 189 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:20.399 was the process to apprehend these? 190 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.240 Two, well as luck would have, it we did have 191 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:25.519 a couple of canines. Working we had a couple of 192 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:29.519 drone operators, working so we were able to quickly get 193 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:31.080 people in the. Area they put up a couple of 194 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.679 drones in the, AIR i had some canines do some 195 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:37.240 tracks and they were eventually able to locate a couple of. 196 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.559 Them they were both APPROXIMATELY i believe a mile away 197 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:43.080 from where this incident took. 198 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.879 Place and what about the fourth future? Defended is he 199 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.440 still out there? Somewhere he's still out. 200 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:51.639 THERE i know they are. INVESTIGATING i could say with 201 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:55.039 pretty well certainty THAT i believe there's a good chance 202 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:57.799 that they're going to be able to identify and apprehend them. 203 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:58.639 From start to. 204 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:02.360 Finish talk about the studying of this event is going 205 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:05.279 to be, downloaded all the, video all the police camps 206 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:06.840 that's going to be. Shown the lawyers are going to 207 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.159 get Involved City Police. Department you're going to have the 208 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.240 lawyers for THE, fop the lawyers for this particular. Cop 209 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.200 you're going to have the lawyers for The city Of. 210 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.279 CINCINNATI i would assume someone might claim this was a 211 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.480 bad shooting at some, point and you're going to have 212 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.080 that from start to. Finish how many seconds took place 213 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:30.320 from the time these four, units these police officers exited their, 214 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.120 vehicle and up to that, point they were like routine 215 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.080 patrol doing whatever they got to. Report there was a 216 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:38.039 stolen vehicle and this parking lot That kiah was, stolen 217 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.480 so they went in there from the time they but 218 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.159 from the time they arrived to the, shooting how much 219 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:43.639 time took? 220 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:44.720 Place was it? Minutes? 221 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.679 Hours to have to? Reflect how did how many seconds 222 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:50.720 was that this officer went from, healthy happy to life and? 223 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:52.639 Death how many seconds. 224 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:55.519 It was six seconds from the time the officer exited 225 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:58.919 their vehicle until the shooting was? Over was approximately six? 226 00:10:58.960 --> 00:10:59.559 Seconds six? 227 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:04.279 Seconds as a police officer, yourself can you walk us 228 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:08.039 through mentally from from the time that the police officer 229 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:11.000 who did the shooting entered the parking lot of This 230 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.000 East Price sale condo, project walk us through his, mind 231 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.840 what he's looking, for what he is seeing in those six? 232 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:20.120 Seconds what's going through his? 233 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.279 Mind, well you, know first the initial is you, know 234 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:27.559 we need to apprehend these, people and then it immediately 235 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.879 goes To i'm looking at the barrel of a gun 236 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:31.559 and Now i've got to figure Out how'm going to 237 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.720 save my. Life and that is where you know your 238 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.600 training kicks, in, Uh and it's just a matter of 239 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:39.879 you've got to. React you don't have time to think 240 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:43.000 about what's going. On your body is processing, this your 241 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.559 mind's processing, this processing this as quick as they, can 242 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:47.799 and it's a matter of you know that that actual, 243 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:51.519 shooting from the time the officer confronted the suspect with 244 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.399 the gun to the time they started the, Shots i'll 245 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:57.919 bet was right around maybe a. Second there is no 246 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.120 time to. Think it's nothing but, reaction and you, know 247 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.759 you're utilizing the training that you have as an, officer and. 248 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.879 These uh six, seconds your mind is, raising your heart is, 249 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:15.320 beating you're chasing. Someone was the officer's gun drawn at 250 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.679 what point during this six? Seconds did he come out 251 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:19.200 of the car with the gun drawn or did he 252 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.679 see the gun drop by the assailant and then pulled 253 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.159 out his. Weapon how much time elapsed from the time 254 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.279 the officer pulled out his weapon until he. 255 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.840 Shot so that's kind of hard to tell because the 256 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:34.080 body camera footage only shows obviously from basically the chest. 257 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:38.320 Up but What i'm surmising from this is from the 258 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:40.559 time he got out of the, vehicle one of the 259 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:45.399 other officer immediately alerted all of the officers if this 260 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:47.000 guy has a. Gun this guy has a. Gun this 261 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:51.679 guy has a. Gun at that, point you had maybe three, 262 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:55.039 seconds So i'm guessing probably into somewhere of you, know 263 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.080 by the time he drew his gun to actually, fired 264 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.200 it was about three seconds, Probably and. 265 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.799 From the TIME i would assume when the assailant dropped his, 266 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:04.519 weapon that's when it was apparent to these to these 267 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.519 four or five police, Officers, okay this is a life 268 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.360 and death this is a typical auto. Theft this guy's 269 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.120 got a, gun and if they see the, gun they 270 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.960 see the extended, magazine which indicates particularly egregious behavior for 271 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.159 an eighteen or nineteen year. Old that's eighteen or nineteen 272 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:25.200 year olds don't roll around and stolen cars with extended 273 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:28.000 magazine nine. MILLIMETER i would assume from the time he 274 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.320 dropped the gun until he was shot was no more 275 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.440 than two or three. Seconds, yeah that's. Correct all, right 276 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.399 how's the officer mentally doing? This, afternoon. 277 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:41.039 They're going to get through. 278 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:45.440 It it's still you're trying to process what, happened why it. 279 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.799 HAPPENED i know the question the officer Cup on asking 280 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:51.480 me yesterday was why did kid have to get out 281 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:51.840 of the car the? 282 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:53.919 Gun why he just? Run leave the gun in the, 283 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:54.639 car just run from. 284 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.480 Us that's, fine will rather that, happen and it's it's 285 00:13:57.519 --> 00:13:59.279 one of those things where you can't make sense of 286 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.720 something that that's not. Rational why anybody would think that 287 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:04.960 it's okay to get out of the car run from 288 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.919 the police with a. Gun the public has to. Understand 289 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.320 you point a gun to THE cincinnti, Policeman you're going 290 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:13.399 to be. Shot that's just the reality of what. Happens 291 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.039 we don't want to do. It it's tragic every time 292 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.080 that it. Happens but, understand you point a gun at 293 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.000 a cincinnt, policeman this is what you can expect is 294 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:20.240 going to. 295 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.480 Happen AND i would assume that when he exits the 296 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.519 key of the Stolen kio with an extended mag nine 297 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.240 millimeter and then he takes several steps and drops, it 298 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.399 he had then the option of leaving that weapon on 299 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.679 the ground and simply running into the. Woods he had 300 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:37.679 and HE i would assume he picked it up with 301 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:39.639 the intention of killing police. 302 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:42.320 Officers, YEAH i don't know why else you would have 303 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.639 picked it. UP i mean they, heard they could hear 304 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.720 the metal hitting the, ground as they showed in the 305 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.200 press conference the picture of the gun that had scratches 306 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:53.000 on it that they believe is from where it hit the, 307 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:56.000 ground then picks it, up then points out an. Officer 308 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:59.399 there were different opportunities along this chain of events. 309 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:01.120 That could have saved this kid's. 310 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.679 Life there's absolutely this was all precipitated by this. SUSPECT i, 311 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.799 mean we'll never know why he did, this but it's 312 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.320 tragic that it. Happened but it was absolutely preventable that 313 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:16.200 this officer was forced because of this kid's. Actions this 314 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.159 eighteen year old's actions was forced to save his own. 315 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:23.000 Life and if you're accurate in his, identification he is 316 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:26.440 an extensive, record which would be an extensive juvenile. Record 317 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:29.080 and he had the. Gun and it's much quicker to 318 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:31.559 run without a gun than with a, Gun and it's 319 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.440 much easier to leave the gun once it's dropped unless 320 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:37.159 you have the intent of, killing not just to one 321 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.120 maybe numerous police officers and his behavior brought about his own. 322 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:45.840 Death, correct, absolutely you know it's something that no officer 323 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:49.240 ever wants to, do but sometimes they're forced to have 324 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:51.879 to act this, way and you make sure that they 325 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:53.559 can save their own life so they can go home 326 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:55.559 to their. Families and that's exactly what this officer. 327 00:15:55.559 --> 00:16:01.440 Did we don't need Another sonny Kim, no all, Right Ken, 328 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.519 COBER fop, director thanks for coming on The Bill cunningham 329 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.840 show any indication at what point would this officer himself. 330 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:10.200 SPEAK i know there's a three or four day cooling 331 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.200 off period and he makes an official. Statement is there 332 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.720 any indication from the powers that be in the city 333 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:18.279 that this is somehow going to result in some criminal 334 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:19.960 investigation of this police? 335 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.240 Officer now the alfers are they all get statements? 336 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.759 Yesterday AND i think just they did the press conference, 337 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.000 here the chief made it very clear that this officer 338 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.039 was justified in their. Actions you, know it's evident from 339 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.480 all of the, interviews from the body camera footage that they, 340 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:39.399 have from the evidence that they've, gathered that the officer 341 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.120 was justified in what he. Did AND i just DON'T 342 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:43.919 i don't see this going anywhere, Else. 343 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:46.879 Ken, Kober you're a Great. American stay out, there stay, 344 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.639 strong and thanks again for coming on The Bill Cunningham. 345 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.000 Show thank, you thank, You, ken thanks for having. 346 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:52.080 Me. 347 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:52.960 Bill all, right let's. 348 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:57.360 Continue with more your reaction five, win three seven, pounds 349 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.480 seven hundred new at AND. T this particular or eighteen 350 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:04.519 year old had the intent of killing police. Officers otherwise 351 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:08.039 he would have left his weapon on the parking lot 352 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:11.039 pavement when he dropped. It he picked it up knowing 353 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.519 he intended to kill, police and he got what he had. 354 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:21.720 Coming Bill Cunningham News radio seven HUNDRED. Wlw all, right, 355 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:26.200 now let's you AND i continue about five ten. Tonight 356 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.920 reds baseball kicks off first pitch about six. Ten the 357 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.960 night a bit early because First friday night of, fireworks 358 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.400 and the weather should be okay looking at. It of, 359 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:36.519 course we live in the rainy, season so we'll see what. 360 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.759 Occurs But nationals in. Town The reds are a couple 361 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:42.559 games out of first. Place we'll see what. Happens, also 362 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:46.839 after one o'clock today will Be Congressman Warren davidson Of 363 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:49.680 Southwest ohio to talk about the first hundred days of 364 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.759 the president and. More but to put a finer point 365 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:55.759 in What Ken cobra THE fop is talking. About these 366 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:00.200 officers about nine thirty am yesterday, morning within six seconds 367 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.559 in front of a life and death, situation the result 368 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:06.799 of which could have been the assassination of a police 369 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:10.079 officer in, uniform much like what happened To Sunny. Kim 370 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.960 Officer Sonny kim In. Madisonville he was lord to the 371 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:17.079 scene by an unknown defendant with the intent of killing 372 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:20.880 a police, officer And Officer Sonny kim came out of 373 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.640 his police unit not with his gun, drawn but with 374 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:26.640 a taser because he thought he was dealing with a 375 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:30.039 crazy person who had the intent to kill. Him and 376 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:32.400 by the time that one shot was, fired it was. 377 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:35.440 Fatal and we went through days and days of horror 378 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.279 about the death Of Officer Sonny, kim who's buried by 379 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:41.039 the Way gate Of Heaven. Cemetery WHENEVER i go To 380 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:43.960 gate To, heaven which is every few, MONTHS i stopped 381 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.680 by the grave Of Sonny kim AND i offer a 382 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:49.359 silent prayer of thanks for the sacrifice that he made 383 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:51.799 so that our, city our region could be as safe 384 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:54.599 as it can. Be it's not real safe right, now 385 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.319 but it would be a whole lot worse if police 386 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.119 officers were put in positions where they're confronting life and 387 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.319 death circumstances as these officers, did and at some point 388 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.200 the name of the officer may be. Released Marcy's law 389 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.680 indicates that it's not done for a. While we'll see what. 390 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:16.079 Happens but all the police officers have made, statements and 391 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.079 all of them are in, concert one with the. Other 392 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:21.279 how someone at the age of eighteen years old can 393 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:24.640 find themselves in a circumstance where they want to steal, 394 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:29.759 cars commit robberies by extended megs for a nine. Millimeter 395 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:34.599 he also had more magazines on his. Person this is 396 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:36.880 the eighteen year old who was dead and throw on 397 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.440 top of, That Darrell austin eighteen years, old and To 398 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:43.720 Anthony bullocks. Nineteen they've been charged with relatively minor offenses 399 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:47.400 at this, point which is receiving stolen property and obstructing official. 400 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:50.359 Business but more charges are coming and then the fourth 401 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:53.039