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Speaker 1: And we have entered our number three New Marrow trace

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of Matt Connerton unleashed. For those of you listening live,

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it is a Saturday, February twenty one, twenty twenty six,

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and we are from the studios of wm NH ninety

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five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire, the

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winter wonderland that it is. And of course you can

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stream the show from anywhere but to Matt connorton dot com,

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slash live for all of your live streaming options, social

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media links, contact Infox, show archives, et cetera, et cetera,

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and right now joining us here in studio, let's see

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there we go. We have g girls here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hi, how you doing met?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very well, very well. It's been also known as

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Jackie Brown of course on social media. We were talking

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off air. Actually pull that pull that mic down just

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a little bit. Yeah, yeah, that's probably good. We were

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talking off air. It's been like three Has it really

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been three years since you've been on with us?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Three years?

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Speaker 1: Definitely, my god, yeah, because I do remember the last

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time you were here. It was at the old when

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we were on Elm Street. Yes, at the old place.

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And so this is pretty nice. You like the you

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like the new, uh or well, I spent a couple

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of years now, but it's it's still it does still

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feel new.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I miss is the signature on the

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wall right right. Hopefully we could bring that back on

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something like maybe on a poster board or something like

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that or yeah, you never know, or like a banner

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or something that just have every every artist or someone

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that comes in here, your guests and sign on there.

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But I missed that. But otherwise this is a great location.

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Congratulations match for lessons on blessings. I known you for years, yes,

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like sixteen seventeen years, actually more than that, Jess.

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Speaker 1: The time goes so quick two thousand and eight. Yeah,

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you notice as we get older too, it goes faster

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and faster.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, flash of my eye.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I find that element rather unpleasant. I would like

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time to slow down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When you're a kid, you're like, oh, it takes

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so long to get oh, I know, birthday and this

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and that, and nowadays.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you're like, when you're a kid, like

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when summer starts, it seems I could just last forever,

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you know, but but I I know that. I mean

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a lot of it obviously is perception and it's psychological.

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But I did read something a number of years ago

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that there's a theory that there might actually be something

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It's not just psychological, but there might literally be something

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neurochemical that happens in our brain as we get older

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that alters our perception of time.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have to check that out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it. You know, it might all be bs.

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Who knows.

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Speaker 2: But well, I had four concussions, so I'm like nervous

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because all the doctors are scaring me. I just actually

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I got injured about a month ago.

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Speaker 1: So oh, sorry to hear that. Yeah, why have you

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had four concussions?

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Speaker 2: Well, different reasons, car accidents. I got injured on the

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bus recently, about January ninth.

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Speaker 1: You got injured on a bus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh well, we can't really talk about it, but

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you know, I'm just saying I got injured really bad. Okay,

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and long, shorty short, I've had four concussions, okay, and

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this was my fourth one. But I guess more concussions

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you have, you can get that brain disease.

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Speaker 1: Well boxes CTE.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I'm ski can you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We are We are on an eight second delay. So

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if the worst happens, I can catch it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll try not. I'll be pleasant today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, welcome.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's a scary situation because you know,

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you think of a concussion you hit, you've hailed from

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a different concussion. Yeah, and then now it's like whoa,

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your brain is like delayed a little bit. I still

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have swelling and things like that. But it's crazy how

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life can change out of a second.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred. So last night, because Friday nights,

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I'm here for Retrospectrum Radio with poly C and I'm

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one of the people on that show. And we also

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have a gentleman named Brooklyn Mike. H Brooklyn Mike if

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you're listening, and uh, he was here and he was

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very excited when we mentioned because Paul always gives me

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a chance to plug what the show is going to

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be Saturday morning, And he was very excited when I

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mentioned you were going to be on because he remembers you,

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Oh yes, from your previous appearances on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, tell him myself. Hello, if you're tuning in, Hello

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to you. Ye, too bad you're not here with us,

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But yeah, next time we'll have to plan it out

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that you're on with Matt.

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Speaker 1: That would be cool, That would be cool. Yeah, he's

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he's been on the show a few times recently. But

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I also, so your show, the Icy Show, we should

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talk about that. And I'm not saying this to be funny.

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This is literally true. I had an epiphany this morning

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because it finally occurred to me. So I had never

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understood why you spell it the way you spell it.

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I see see why I never understood that. And it

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finally dawned on me this morning. And it happened while

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I'm looking at you. Your your name on messenger Jackie Brown,

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and I'm like, wait a minute, she spells Jackie with

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two c's. Yes, that has to be the reason. Yes,

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And it's been I don't know, I can't remember again,

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you know, talking about time and perception. I don't know

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know how many years it's been now that you've been

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doing that show, because it's all everything becomes a blur.

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But it finally occurred to me literally this morning. I

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was like, oh, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And the reason why I have two seas

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it's because of my name and also because I own

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my show. Yeah, so someone already had it. I see why.

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So that's why I had to change it with the

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two seeds. Okay, I could have did it different ways,

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but that's the way I wanted to go with the Jackie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to DZ the gift mass of Hustle Records.

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He gave me my name, so salute to him. Definitely.

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I got to give the shout outs, definitely because that's

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the reason why. And my show's been around, will be

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eight years this June second.

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Speaker 1: Eight years. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I've done over seven and twenty interviews local

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and international.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be like you, Matt on my role model.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jenny was on with you recently.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she was on The Icy Show about a week

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and a half ago and we talked about how, you know,

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with the insurance not paying for medicine when people need

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medicine and people are dying because they can't afford medicine.

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I was at someone's house in New York last week

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and she needed her insulin, and you know, it's crazy

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because her sugar's going high and she can't get her insulent.

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And that was a different state, so every state is different.

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What's going on in this world with the difference with

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the medications and you know what you need to have,

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and you know, what about the people that have asthma,

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what about the people that have cancer, you know, that

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need to be on a medication for life and stuff

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and they can't afford it. And it's like, it's crazy,

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it's sad. It's sad, And I'm glad Jenny's doing. Shout

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out to Jenny if you're tuning in, definitely, because where

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I see her about two years ago to where she's

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that now, she looks amazing and I'm so proud of her,

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and I'm glad she finally found, you know, a cure

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for her. But she shouldn't have to be suffering like that.

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Speaker 1: Well there's no there's no cure. I mean, if you're

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talking about the complex uh sorry, complex pain complex regional

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pain syndrome. Sorry, there's no cure for that. So all

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she can all she can really do is manage it.

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But she is. But she is managing it. Well oh yeah, yeah,

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it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't let it stop her

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or slow her down or anything.

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Speaker 2: Keep on doing those rallies out.

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Speaker 1: There, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Oh, stay safe, she's.

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Speaker 1: Doing great things and she's gonna be going to to

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DC on Monday, and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they travel safe travel.

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Speaker 1: She's doing a lot. Yeah, So tell us more about

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the show, because obviously, I mean I think you you

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probably interview people in the music industry more than anything.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, some business owners too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, well tell us about like who who

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are some of the people you've interviewed, and and and why,

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like how do you how do you decide who you

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want to have on the show and all that.

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my show. You know, I believe everybody deserves a chance

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to be on a show if they can. Yeah, and

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my show is for you to expand and meet other people.

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That's why it's local international. Started with seven people following me,

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and now I got a salute to everyone that follows me.

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My whole team with worldwide collaboration. I'm with Legal Mob Entertainment.

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them a shut out because if it wasn't for them

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to believe in me and keep on growing and DJ slimebugs.

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on Sunday for the children. It's just something.

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my co host and then we he did one hundred episodes.

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and I was thankful. I was hoping he would keep

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on going. But you know it's time consuming because he

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is to study and everything. But my pastor, Minister Thomas,

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doctor Minister Thomas, he believes in my son. He really

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thinks he could see my son being a minister or pastor.

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through some things. But that's every teenager. You know, he'll

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your show when I found out I was pregnant with

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Speaker 1: We'll come back to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great story and I always think about that.

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But my show is basically about everyone that has something

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positive going and even people that are in jailing and

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then never coming home. They've been on my show too,

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and you know they they they said that they're innocent.

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coming home, and so you know, my show is to

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give everybody that chance. Like even I have another show

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that's going to be coming out Ice. It's the icy

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show Lost Angels. It's about if you have a lost

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someone you lost and you didn't you know, when you're

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at the casket and you wish you could talk to

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that person, but whish to really talk out loud instead

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of you just sitting there and crying, and you know,

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you want that last closure. So my show was to

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have that last closure with that loved one that they lost.

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At start, it was it should have been out. I

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did the first episode. I haven't seen you a lot, Matt.

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There's a lot to catch up with you, but I

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don't know. De Z's brother passed away. Yeah, it was

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three years ago. And that was my brother. That was

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my ace, my everything, Like he was my like it's

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I cried for three hundred and sixty five days when

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he died, every single day. And he was the only

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one that believed in my show and believed in me

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even when he was behind bars, when he was in

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jail fighting for his life, and he would contact me

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to make sure that I keep on going. I don't

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have that motivation anymore, that someone that really believes in me,

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like that you could trust on everything, your life on

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the line, you know, and it's hard to come around

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those type of people, real solid people. So that took

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me for a toll because I lost my female ace

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and my male ace, So that broke my heart in pieces.

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but I had people contacted me because I did a

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post saying that I was going to stop it, and

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they said, no, you got to keep on going no

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matter what you're going through. And you know, I could

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keep on hearing him say to me, gee, girl, you

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better not give up. If you give up, like he's

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motivating me on things that like, you know, I've done

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for people, but to really have it back with real

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love and showing that they're out to help you succeed,

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not out for themselves. That's real rear to find those

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type of people. And that's why I went to go

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see him in jail. I went to I bailed him out.

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person that had my back no matter what I was

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going through divorce, crying on the shoulder when nobody was there,

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you know, like yeah, real, real, real life stuff. But

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not to have that anymore, I needed to come out

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with the show I felt like for my two aces,

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because I know there's a lot of people out there

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that have lost a lot of people and they're getting

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younger and younger, and I want my platform to be

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for them to release that. But I wasn't strong enough

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because my show came out right before my brother died.

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I did his mother's She lost two of her children,

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one to that was my brother and the other one

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was too. Her daughter got stabbed, so she talked about

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it on my show, so I made that's my aunt.

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So I made her the first episode because she told

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me I should do something like that, and I was like,

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you know what I'm going to. But then when I

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lost my brother, I was numb for three hundred and

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sixty five days, like I didn't know if I was

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coming or going, and going through a lot of stuff.

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But I kept my show going because I kept hearing

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him say it. And that's why with that new show,

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it's dedicating for people that lost the loved ones. So

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that will be coming out soon and then the Icy show.

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It's here to stay as long as I keep on

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having people on the show, artists and things like that.

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Like tomorrow we have a music show I'm a Judge.

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It's in Massachusetts. To come out, it's at eight pm.

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It's ten dollars to get in. Shout to Loudhouse that

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put it together. So yeah, it's just you know, keep

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on growing, Matt, That's what it is about it. And

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you know, life it's flashing my eyes. So we have

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to keep on doing what we want. And like the acting.

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had the red carpet event. Yeah, so I've done a

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lot more acting, different movie clips. I was in Detroit

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and a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: So wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the acting. So if you need an actress,

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let me know on a short film or something. Definitely

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that I feel like that's my passion.

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Speaker 1: Oh really okay, interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I never thought that, but yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: There's something really interesting you mentioned about interviewing people who

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are in prison, who are you know, not getting out,

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they're not coming home. How do how does that work logistically? Like?

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Is that is that challenging to set that up where

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they're gonna be I assume they're going to be on

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a phone talking to you like, how do how does

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is that hard to work out?

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Speaker 2: Well, they have a they have laptops, some have cell phones. Yeah,

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it's all different. But yeah, I mean they they were

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showing me stuff on the interview that was crazy, like

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they could pop their just sell like that. So they

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were showing things that the world isn't aware of, about

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things that are happening in prisons. Yeah, and they showed it.

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It was live on the show. And it's like, I

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wasn't expecting that, and I even said, whatever happens on

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this episode, I'm not responsible. I didn't know. You know,

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these lifers aren't coming home, and so it's like they

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don't even get an opportunity. They were saying people that

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their family is supposed to write to them or show

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or put canteen. They don't even so they have to

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figure out a way inside to survive. And it's sad

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and you know, you think about I've seen something about

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the news yesterday about cancer is rising in the jails,

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and then you think about it. It's the food. The

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food is not healthy, and I don't understand why they

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don't turn around and make like it's simple. You know,

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we have indoor greenhouses, make it in every single jail.

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Make it a job for one of the prisoners. Then

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it's money being you know, circulated, and then maintain in it,

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and you know it's healthier for them. I guarantee the

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cancer will go down. I'm not a medical doctor, but

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I feel in my heart, just like the school lunches,

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if you switch it to healthiness or healthier per se,

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what your the ingredients are not artificial. I feel in

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my heart, old school, like my grandmother taught me, old

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school ways are better. Less ingredients. You're using natural herbs,

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you're not prosper Everything process process, everything's processed. And I

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didn't even know when I was growing up. I'll be

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forty eight in June. I never even knew when I

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was growing up. You know, look on the ingredients, Look

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on this. They don't teach you that when I was

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going to school, and it's like, okay, that should be

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part of health. That should be part of schools. That

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should be mantorb to show them or homec you know

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how you you're learning about measuring things like that, that's perfect.

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Have it half of a year of cooking and half

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of a year learning about you know, what is this process?

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What is this chemical that is going into you and

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studying it, and I guarantee these kids it will make

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them open their eye a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: There's something I've always this is an unpopular opinion, but

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I've always felt that there's something deeply wrong on a

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societal level with us, because you know, and and you know,

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RFK talks about you know, processed foods and how it hurt.

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And don't get me wrong, I think RFK overall is

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a lunatic. But I think the one thing he does

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get right where he doesn't sound completely insane, is when

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he talks about processed food and how how much harm

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that's causing uh to to to people.

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Speaker 2: And you know.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that I I don't understand is why

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you know, almost almost right out of the shoot, when

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you're born, you've got all these people around you who

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allegedly love you, who are trying to shove as much

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fat and cholesterol and sugar which is you know, white sugar,

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which is poison into you. You know, almost almost immediately

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like you learn, like like you're taught again by these

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people who are supposed to be looking out for you.

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You're taught to like and enjoy the worst possible stuff

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for you. Oh, a birthday party, we got to have

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some cake. Oh you want to treat yeah, or here,

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have a cupcake. You know, it's it's weird. It it

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doesn't make any logical sense. And yet and you know,

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and then people are confused, like, well, oh why you know,

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why is obese toy such a problem. Why why is

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it that with every generation we have higher and higher

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rates of diabetes? Because this is just this weird thing

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in our culture, and I'm sure it exists in other

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countries as well. But it's like like almost from the day,

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like nobody has a chance because almost from the moment

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you're brought into the world, you are taught to enjoy

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things that are going to slowly kill you. Right, It's

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so bizarre. I don't know why we do it, but

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we do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so true, so true, It is true because I'm

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about when it comes to a birthday, you have to

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have a cake. That's just right. Then?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're taught that right from when you're little.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well when I was little, some birthdays I didn't

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even have a cake. So I made sure anybody that

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I know that if I rock with you, I'm making

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sure if it's your birthday if I can make it. Lately,

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I've been working a lot, it's been crazy, But yeah,

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cake is important. I feel like when you get to

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blow that candle O, it's different. It's like you're relieving

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your last year to a new beginning, sure for your life,

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if it makes sense, A little confused.

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Speaker 1: Of but no, no, you got no, I totally get that.

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But wouldn't it be nice to put that candle on

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top of a healthy snack?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, even salad like I don't. I don't, I

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don't rock on it like I definitely do. Like if

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I do a kid's birthday party and stuff, I do,

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have fruit salad, reckless.

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Speaker 1: Salad, maybe a protein bar. You could shove the candle

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into the protein bar if it's soft enough.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, definitely, there's not's wrong with that. I

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feel anything, or even a yogurt putting.

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Speaker 1: On Ooh, I like that idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, add some oats on top.

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Speaker 1: Get that protein and yeah absolutely yeah, absolutely yeah. So

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that's that's my my rant on that. All right, we

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need to talk about how you found out, well sort

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of it depends on what I did.

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Speaker 2: I found out I was pregnant with my son, it

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will be June will be he'll be sixteen years old.

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But having a big party, stud forget to forget.

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Speaker 1: So so back, how, oh god, how many years ago? Now,

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it's so long ago, fifteen and a half. So at

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the time, a little little time travel here a little

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and some people already some of our listeners already know

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this story. But so at that time, so we were

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at what was at that time Millie's Tavern. Yes, yes,

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show doing a show. We had a show there. Your

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partner de Z the Gift. Were you married at that point?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my ex husband, yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I couldn't remember if you were married yet. He

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was there. He was part of the show. Y, you

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were part of the show somehow, right? Were you on

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stage at some point?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Well, actually Norm called me to the stage all right, right, okay,

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he says, I have something to tell you guys.

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Speaker 1: Right, So Norm Moody, who I was his co host

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on a show called Norman Friends that we did right

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here in Manchester on Channel twenty three at the time

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for eight years. So for anyone who doesn't know, so

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Norm was a psychic and my rule on the show

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kind of evolved a little bit, but basically I was

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like the skeptical, sarcastic, smart ass sidekick, you know. I was.

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I was off in the fly and the ointment and uh,

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you know, trying to not derail everything. But but I

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was kinda when I was a little I was kind

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of a menace in some ways, you know. And I

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was I was just coost for eight years. But we

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would do events outside of that, and so he was

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I don't remember if it was like officially like a

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Norman friend's event that we were doing, I don't remember.

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I just remember Norm was involved, there were musicians involved.

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You and d Z were a part of the show.

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And and yes, so that night Norm told did he

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I can't remember though, did he Did he tell you

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on stage in front of everyone?

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Speaker 2: Yes? He actually called me to the stage and no,

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because I wasn't feeling good that night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was mood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just I wasn't feeling it. I didn't

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even want to go to the show. I just was

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I felt nauseous. Smells were bothering me, and I'm like,

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maybe I'm getting sick. But I went because to support him,

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and he went to the stage and then Norm called

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me to the stage and then he's like, you need

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to come up here. I need to tell you something

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for to both of you, to me and EAZ And

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I'm like, I'm looking at the Z I'm like, damn,

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he cheated on me and I'm about to get told

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them that's what I Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

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I'm like, I'm it's gonna be. We're gonna rumble on it.

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We're gonna get it all. We get to crack it.

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But that was the situation. It's like, so how far

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along are you? And I'm like what, It's like, how

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far along are you? And you haven't not one, but

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you haven't two. And I'm looking at I'm like, is

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this a prank? Because I know my body? But damn

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am I pregnant? Because I was just complaining to him

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on the way that I wasn't feeling good. So we're

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on the stage, I'm not feeling good. I feel like

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I'm gonna get sick. I'm like, is this true or not?

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I'm like I don't think so, and he's like, no,

473
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,640
I'm serious. Norm kept saying that and he's like, you're

474
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,680
gonna call me in a couple of days and you're

475
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,480
gonna tell me that you're expected. So I went home.

476
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:32,440
We're going home and I'm like, do you think that's true?

477
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,519
And I don't know, So I'm like, let's stop. So

478
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:40,000
I got a test the next day and I'm like, oh,

479
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,200
I called d I'm like, D come here, come here,

480
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,240
and he comes running in. I'm like, look at this.

481
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,359
I was like, I gotta do another one because I

482
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,519
bought a couple of them. I did it. I think

483
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:55,079
two or three of them are all positive. I'm like,

484
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,400
oh no, I'm I'm gonna call Matt right now and

485
00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:01,240
let him know that Norm was on on point. And

486
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,400
then the story gets even more crazy. So my son

487
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,880
is a twin. I lost my daughter. She was four

488
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:14,720
months four months when I was pregnant, and when uh

489
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,359
we did the ultrasound and they're saying twins and I'm

490
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,440
like no way. So I screenshot. I think I even

491
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,640
sent it to you. I was like, send this to Norm,

492
00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:28,599
please to let him know that he is arm point.

493
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,039
So yeah, he's how is he?

494
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Well, he's dead, passed away. He passed away. Yeah, oh wow,

495
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,519
yeah he's been gone a few years now. Yeah wow.

496
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: He was a good guy.

497
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: He was Yeah, he you know, he'd had various health issues,

498
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,359
So it was in some ways, it was not necessarily

499
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,720
a big surprise, but you know, and I hadn't been

500
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:55,839
on the show with him for you know, several years,

501
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,839
quite a few years at that point, so when he

502
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,759
did pass away, so I wasn't, you know, up to

503
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:04,039
speed on what was going on necessarily. But but yeah, yeah,

504
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,000
so he is, uh he has he has left us.

505
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:08,920
But but yeah, that is a that's a great story though.

506
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, definitely not. Every time I see you or Jenny,

507
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,880
I always think of about that story because it's like,

508
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,160
you know, it's good memories.

509
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember too and being pretty certain about it.

510
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was precise right on top. Yeah, yeah,

511
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,839
right on, so he knew before I did.

512
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, were you were you skeptical? Uh like going

513
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:35,039
into that, Like I don't know what your your feelings

514
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:38,519
are generally about psychics and all of that. Like I'm

515
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,279
I'm a natural skeptic, but I don't know what your

516
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,559
uh your feelings are.

517
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: I actually like psychics. I feel like it could be

518
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,240
a guy, that angel coming through the persons. Yeah, tell

519
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:54,079
him something. Yeah, because I've had a psychic contact me

520
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,640
in the middle of the night when my brother passed away. Yeah,

521
00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:00,480
and she said he was going back a fool and

522
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:06,559
she said she kept she was a a media and

523
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:12,359
a psychic medium medium. Yes, and she said that she

524
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,480
called me at eleven o'clock at night. I never answered

525
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,960
when people are calling me on my messenger and I'm like,

526
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,039
is this a stark girl, because I've had it happen

527
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,000
like crazy stuff. And I'm like nah. And then she's like, Jackie,

528
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:28,519
I need to talk to you. She's like, you don't

529
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:32,480
know me, but someone that is just passed is trying

530
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,279
to cross over and that's stock they need to I

531
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,680
need you to contact the wow. And I'm like, okay,

532
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,319
is this lady really playing with me? Because you know

533
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:43,720
social media, you look at a picture, you just assume

534
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:48,559
something like I'm not stupid. So long story short, I

535
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,359
answered her and she goes, Jackie, I have three Jackies

536
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,799
in my in my friend's list, and I have this

537
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,920
person that's a male dark skin. He's trying to craw

538
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,920
sova and he wants to. He wants to he needs

539
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,480
to talk to you, and I'm like, it's my brother.

540
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:10,759
Like it's my brother. I was like, oh my god.

541
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,240
I started crying my eyes out and I'm like, okay.

542
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,880
So this was probably like six months after he passed,

543
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:20,160
and you know, I felt like when he crossed, when

544
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,240
he passed, he didn't cross. I felt that, Yeah, just

545
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,799
something I go to a cemetery life. It was, It's

546
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,319
just I take care of it.

547
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

548
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,519
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just felt that, and people

549
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,160
thought I was crazy and stuff. But when she contacted me,

550
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:40,599
I knew I was right. And he was talking about

551
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,680
how he passed. He he he said I was right,

552
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:46,519
like my feeling about it and stuff like that, and

553
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,359
he kept saying, drink lots of water, take care of

554
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,519
your health. That's something he would always say, yeah, And

555
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,559
I said okay, because he used to work out and

556
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400
drink water every day, so he would like motivate me.

557
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,680
And then he'd be He started going to debt because

558
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,200
I'm like, is this lady really serious? I'm like, what

559
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:13,799
else do you see? He's like, well, I don't know

560
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,839
how long he's going to be here for, but I

561
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:19,319
just want as long as he's here to talk. He

562
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,079
has a lot of information to tell you. So he

563
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,839
was just going in and in and he was talking

564
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,119
about our old memories together and I'm like, oh, my God,

565
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,519
this is really him. And the crazy thing is he's like,

566
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,880
I come to your room every night. That's what he

567
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:37,920
was saying to her. Like he was just saying like

568
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,839
a whole bunch of stuff to me, and I'm like,

569
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,359
this is overwhelming. He's like, I appreciate you going to

570
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,920
the cemetery cleaning and up. He was saying that to

571
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,279
me and everything. So I was like, oh wow, that's

572
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,079
that's that's that's like I felt grateful because I felt

573
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:56,400
like he's talking to me. And then he brought up

574
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,079
about my show. You know how I was telling you

575
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,680
I was going to stop my show and he's like,

576
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,720
you better not stop your show. He's like that, he

577
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,559
was telling me that, So you know, he was just

578
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,759
saying a lot of stuff and she was on point.

579
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,480
She was on point, Like I said what's my favorite color?

580
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,440
Because at first, like I'm not, I'm like, what's my

581
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:21,039
favorite color? And he's like blue, and I was like okay.

582
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:24,319
I was like, say some crazy stuff what we did together,

583
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:27,599
and he said some crazy stuff like he wasn't saying

584
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,559
in like full sentences, but he was saying it like

585
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:34,519
I would understand, as though I was like, dang, he's really,

586
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,000
like really here. He was there for three and a

587
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:40,599
half hours talking to me. It was like three o'clock

588
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,400
in the morning. When she's like, he's gone, and I

589
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,000
was like wait because we were in the middle of

590
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:50,400
a sentence and she goes, just no, he crossed over.

591
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,039
It's gonna make me cry. But he crossed over, and

592
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,680
I was with him and knowing that he's my ace,

593
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,039
and like he went over, like I felt relieved, but

594
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:10,400
also like that's what was I was feeling when I

595
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:12,480
was going to the cemetery. You know what I'm saying,

596
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,519
Like I knew what I was feeling that he didn't

597
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:20,160
have that closure. Yeah, you know, And I seen him

598
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,240
like a week before he passed. I was looking for

599
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,599
him when he was missing and stuff like I was

600
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,119
on It felt sick to me because I seen crows

601
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,559
go by. I was like, he's dead, and I was

602
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,799
like I was spasing on everybody. I was not find

603
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,079
my brother. Find my brother. I was like, I don't

604
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:41,759
want to hear it. And then when I got that

605
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,839
call he got shot in the head. Oh my god,

606
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,880
oh my god, like I wanted to lose I started flipping.

607
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,839
I had so much anger, like anger, but.

608
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Did you did you know before you got the call, like,

609
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,880
did you feel it?

610
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,319
Speaker 2: I knew he passed, but the thing was it was

611
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,319
his mom's birthday. And then when his mom's birthday, she

612
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:05,440
called me and she's like, have you seen him? And

613
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:07,559
I was like, no, I haven't seen him. I seen

614
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,799
I thought you had a picture with him. She's like yeah,

615
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960
but no one's seen him for twenty four hours. I'm like,

616
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160
that's not like him. So I started making calls. I'm like,

617
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,119
that's not like him. I'm like, we're like, I'm calling

618
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,839
his phone. It's ringing and ringing. I was like, get

619
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,200
his phone, get his phone ping to find out where

620
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:31,960
it where he's where his phone is? Trace that And

621
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:34,839
I said that to the mom, and you know, I

622
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,960
was kind of like hostile with but I felt it.

623
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:42,000
I felt like, that's my ace, that's my everything, and

624
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,400
you're gone. Like I felt it because I was at

625
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,240
the beach. I went to the beach that morning and

626
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,119
I seen the crows go by, and when I seen that,

627
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,119
I threw up. And then when I threw up, I

628
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,599
was like someone died. And the person I was with,

629
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:59,559
they're like, no, that's just you're just saying. I was like, no,

630
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,960
I want to. I get like this, someone died. I

631
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:05,440
feel it inside me. My soul is empty, like it's weird,

632
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,280
Like I could see psychic things like little things. Yeah,

633
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,840
and I seen I seen woods and I kept seeing

634
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,920
woods like a vision. And I'm like, someone's dead in

635
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,199
the woods. And I'm like, something's not right. And then

636
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,360
his mom called me right when those crows were going by.

637
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:24,719
I was like, traces my phone. I'm gonna be on

638
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,440
the I'm getting a car. I'm going to look for him.

639
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,960
I'm gonna find him. I'm gonna find him. And she's like, oh, don't,

640
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:32,760
don't pin it too much. I'm like, no, it's been

641
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,119
twenty four hours. Someone nobody's seen him. I was like,

642
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,360
it's not right because I already seen what was happening. Yeah,

643
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,440
So I turn around. I got the car. My girl

644
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,840
was driving me. It pinged to me interested in the

645
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,400
Hampshire where we're at ninety five point three FM. We're

646
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,039
out here with Matt Connaughty shut out to Matt. But

647
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,559
it pined out here, but it was all woods and

648
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,840
his mom sent me the address I'm going. So my

649
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,639
girl came to gribbed me my god, since mom King.

650
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,920
She picked me up and we went to the woods.

651
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,599
We're heading into the woods and I'm like some like,

652
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,880
I just something wasn't sitting right. I'm five minutes from

653
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,039
the woods and I said, I feel like he's dead.

654
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:22,159
I smelled blood and I was like, he's dead. And

655
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,639
I got that call and his mom is telling me

656
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,960
he's dead. She's like, get to Lynn, immediately, get to Linn.

657
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,719
Get to the house. Oh shoot. I was like, flip

658
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,519
the car around because we're out here. Lynn is what

659
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,559
hour hour and a half from here?

660
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: From here on probably an hour. Yeah.

661
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,599
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, I have my friend. I'm like

662
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:46,320
I'm gonna I'm gonna take a car. I need someone's car.

663
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,119
I need to be mobile. I need to be done

664
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:51,119
in it. My girl gave me her car. I shot

665
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,320
over there. I was like, this is a horror movie.

666
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,679
I seen the young I can't even get to the street.

667
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,119
I see clock cars every where, the yellow tape. They

668
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,519
blocked the whole street, Layton Street off and I'm like,

669
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,559
oh man, this is nuts. This is nuts. Like I

670
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:10,920
need to get over there. That's my family, that's my

671
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,079
aunt's house, you know. So I'm like, what the heck's

672
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:19,199
going on. I turn around, I get to stop a shop.

673
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:20,960
I'm gonna I'm gonna leave the car and I'm gonna run.

674
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,639
I'm gonna run over to where they're at. It's like

675
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,800
maybe five streets away. So I get to the car,

676
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,880
I mean to the parking lot where stopping shop is,

677
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:38,639
and I see the the body go by. Oh God,

678
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,199
and I was like, damn, that's my brother. But I

679
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,000
felt like it was him saying goodbye to me because

680
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:50,679
it was me and his one on one for him

681
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,679
to go by, and how all of it. I kept

682
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,000
spending the block for forty five minutes, so I felt

683
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:01,480
like it was him delaying to see him, you know

684
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:04,599
what I mean. But that didn't stop me. I went

685
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,519
to the where he was and I didn't know that

686
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:13,960
they don't clean up. I almost fainted, flipping, flipping, But

687
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:18,239
it's like, you know, that's my brother forever. And everyone

688
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,039
could say, oh, he's different skin tone, but you don't

689
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,000
know what we've been through. Like he was the one

690
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,440
that was solid for me if I needed to cry

691
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,719
about breaking up with his brother a bo the divorce

692
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,719
and things like that, that was the one I could

693
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,679
go to and trust on everything on everything that's my

694
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,159
son's godfather and uncle, you know what I mean. So

695
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,320
it's like family flee me, but you don't know when

696
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,920
life is gonna be tossed oct And it's like people

697
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:55,079
need to appreciate life, not take life for granted. I

698
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,639
don't have time for hating. I don't have time for

699
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,719
being jealous of someone. We need to unite, We need

700
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:08,519
to come together. We need to be together and fight

701
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:12,679
for our life right now because everything was a turmoil.

702
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,320
And it's like, you know, our children need a life

703
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,239
for the future, and if we don't make it better

704
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,800
for them, what life are they going to have. It's

705
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,440
just a turmoil. I mean, like I said, we used

706
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,000
to leave the doors unlocked, your neighbor you could trust

707
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,400
and things like that. Now you gotta double up, locked everything,

708
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,440
check everything. It's crazy.

709
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: The reason, by the way, so the reason I asked

710
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:41,239
you about did you feel like you felt them leave?

711
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:45,400
You know, is because this relates to someone you've met

712
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,000
but who is no longer with us. Do you remember

713
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:48,840
Steve Blake?

714
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: Why is that sound familiar?

715
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:55,119
Speaker 1: So you and de Z were on his podcast This

716
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,039
was a lot. This would have been around the same

717
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:01,039
time you would come up to Manchester. We were doing

718
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:02,679
his podcast at a diner.

719
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, he passed away.

720
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: He passed away. Yeah, he's he's actually been gone for

721
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,960
for quite a while now. But so I will just

722
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:15,719
because I don't know, it feels like the moment to

723
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,559
do it, I guess because we're talking about it and

724
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:20,039
it's someone you know or knew. I know you didn't

725
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:21,559
meet him, you didn't know him very well, but you

726
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:23,760
probably meet him a few times because he was always around. Yes,

727
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,760
but Steve. So there was a night remember remember Styling Souls. Yes,

728
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,159
we used to do events there and I did hypnosis there.

729
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,000
So there was a night that I was there after

730
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,199
a a hypnosis session with somebody, and I'm there at

731
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,519
the computer and I'm just doing whatever I was doing.

732
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,400
And I've never this is something. Not only have I

733
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,880
never shared this publicly, I've never told anyone this. I've

734
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,679
never told anyone this. I'm sitting there, it was probably

735
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,519
I don't know, around eight thirty nine o'clock at night,

736
00:39:56,559 --> 00:40:00,199
I'm kind of getting ready to go home, and all

737
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,320
of a sudden, I just felt I felt very heavy,

738
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,960
like I felt this enormous loss, and I actually started crying,

739
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,760
like really crying, and I'm not a crier, and I

740
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:16,159
had no idea what was happening to me. I don't know,

741
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,159
you know, and It'll lasted a few minutes, but I

742
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,119
just felt like this enormous sense of loss all of

743
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,559
a sudden, and I was crying, and it was very

744
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:29,639
very strange. Hasn't nothing. I haven't experienced anything quite like

745
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,719
that since, But yeah, it was just odd. And then

746
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,440
when I was done and I pulled myself together for

747
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,400
you know, whatever reason this was happening to me, you know,

748
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:41,880
I went home and whatnot. And then first thing in

749
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,840
the morning the next day, I get a call and

750
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,199
it's Esther, who was Steve's wife. Wow, And as soon

751
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,519
as I heard her voice on the phone, I knew,

752
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,760
Like before she even told me, I knew. And I

753
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,360
now looking back on it, you know, and look, I'm

754
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,920
not one of these people who says, oh, there are

755
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:07,039
no you know, no coincidences. Of course, there are coincidences.

756
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,039
But but she told me, you know, because I asked

757
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,079
as well, when did he pass? She said, you know,

758
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:14,000
she was vague about the time, but she said, last night.

759
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,840
I found him last night. He was he was unconscious,

760
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,320
and I've just always kind of thought, because I don't

761
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,239
know how else to explain what I was experiencing. It

762
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,360
just seemed to me. I think I felt him leave.

763
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I felt that when I see the crows,

764
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,400
I just didn't know who it was. Precise died and

765
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:43,920
I lost my aunt prior to that, my grandmother and

766
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,119
my ace. Like I said in many like Rest the Soul,

767
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,039
Legend king og Don Hazel, he was the director of

768
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:56,840
the movie he passed away. Then legend La La that's

769
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,519
the lady I go in Don Hazel the Gangster Movie

770
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,480
against her. In the movie he passed away like one

771
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:06,400
year after Dawn Haynes. So it's like all these funerals

772
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,199
I can't even hear from one, and it's just getting hit.

773
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,039
I got hit with like eleven in two years, and

774
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,960
they were all close to me, and my heart was

775
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:21,599
like rip this way, ripped this way, ripped this way,

776
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:25,519
and it's like my brothers. Though in my other ace,

777
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:32,280
Keana restaursoul Angelized. I felt those two. When I say

778
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:41,079
I felt it my Keanna, that's my godson's mother. I

779
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,599
was actually supposed to be due on her. My son

780
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,679
was supposed to be due on my birthday, but I

781
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,039
wanted to be selfish June nineteenth. It's a holiday now baby,

782
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,199
but she my son was supposed to be do We

783
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,480
were both pregnant at the same time, our whole pregnancies,

784
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,119
and we both found out we're having the boy. We're

785
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:11,719
ecstatic and long story short, when she passed, I felt it.

786
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,360
I seen it. I had a dream. I had a

787
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,519
dream she was in a ballroom all in beige dressed

788
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,639
beige shirt and she was in a big ballroom, makeup,

789
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,519
looking beautiful, dancing. And I got that call when I

790
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,760
was having that dream, and I felt so sick. I

791
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,719
started yelling the grandmother. I was like, no, my aunt.

792
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,760
I was like no, I was just wear her last night.

793
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,119
There's no way, no way, And she's like, no, it's true.

794
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,559
You need to get over here. Everyone's over here, the cops.

795
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,880
I'm like what. I'm like, no, I what time is it.

796
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:54,480
I was like lost, Like I just dreamt of her.

797
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,000
There's no way. I'm like, there's no way. On my fine,

798
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:00,199
my ace, And you know, I had to clean the

799
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,840
blood on her bed because it's my godson's room. Nobody

800
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,360
wants to do it. And I'm like, I'm not I'm

801
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,400
not gonna leave it. I gotta clean it up, you

802
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:11,360
know what I mean. So everyone's like put gloves on,

803
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,679
put this mask, and I was like, no, I'm not

804
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,320
gonna do that. That's my best friend. Like, and I

805
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,280
didn't even think to put gloves or anything because that's

806
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,920
my best friend. Ye to know that that's her blood light,

807
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:33,360
oh you know, So it's like visions I seen that's

808
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:39,920
and when I seen her the night before, that feeling

809
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:45,880
I got, like when we go like this to each other,

810
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:49,119
and I got a feeling I was never going to

811
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,679
see her again. I felt it. I felt it. And

812
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,519
if I ever get that feeling, I got it with

813
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:57,719
my brother and I ran back to him to give

814
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,159
him a hug and a kiss because I got that

815
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,599
failing that I'll never see them again. And when I

816
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:08,119
get that failing, that's why I always say, when you

817
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,000
love somebody, you have to say I love you to

818
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:15,880
them and give hugs and be affectionate because you never know.

819
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,119
Today's not promise, never mind tomorrow. And that's very important.

820
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:24,880
No matter like suicide is such a high. We just

821
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,480
lost that rapper. He was twenty something years old this

822
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:32,079
week and you know, it's okay to get help. If

823
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,280
you ever feel like you want to hurt yourself or

824
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,280
you want to harm someone, it's okay. Get the help

825
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,840
first before you do it, because your family is going

826
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,000
to suffer tremendously. And if you hurt somebody or kill somebody,

827
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:50,639
it's going to hurt two families, not one, but two,

828
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:55,239
your family and their family. So it's important because people

829
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,400
don't understand that that you know, retaliation or whatever the

830
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,679
case may be. He is, no, that's not the way,

831
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:04,800
and we need to reach out to this younger, younger generation.

832
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,960
The youth needs us. They lost for sauce, very lost

833
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,480
for sauce. You know, we got to start getting them

834
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:17,639
back how we were growing up and uniting with everyone,

835
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:22,519
because now it's not about unite. You know, it's different cultures,

836
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:28,679
different gangs, different society, society, and you need to unite.

837
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,320
Everybody needs to unite and come together. That's that, that's

838
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,199
what we need to do. We need to keep praying.

839
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,599
I say, keep your prayer, peace up, prayers up, positive,

840
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,239
and that's what we need to do.

841
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,159
Speaker 1: Well, very well said. So we are we are rapidly

842
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:48,719
running out of time. It goes so quickly.

843
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,679
Speaker 2: Wow, we did. We managed a lot of stuff, making

844
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,320
I feel accomplished.

845
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: I knew we would, but I do want to make

846
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,480
sure so before we run out of time The Icy Show.

847
00:46:57,559 --> 00:46:59,559
We want to remind people about that. Where to find

848
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,239
it when it's I don't know if you're on any

849
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,280
kind of a set schedule or if it's just it's

850
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,559
on when it's on. I got you, mate, so.

851
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: You can check me on my podcast, The Icy Show.

852
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:13,559
It is local internationally. It is at six pm Easter times.

853
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,280
I try to be on daily, but you know, sometimes

854
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:19,840
with life and working and everything, it gets pushed back

855
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,719
to the days. But it is always lined up and promoted.

856
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Anybody that is on my show, I try to do

857
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,400
a month out. We are booking until April right now.

858
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Good morning, Jay's Sunshine. She's one of a great model.

859
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:38,440
She has a brand in Boston, so check her out. Also,

860
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:44,800
everybody on Worldwide Collaboration. That's Family Icy Show, Family Worldwide

861
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,239
and Legal Mob Entertainment Queen Miss b K. So everybody

862
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,320
keep on shining. Don't let nothing stop you. You know,

863
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,920
like I said, there's a lot of evil out there,

864
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,960
and I believe in the power of the prayer. That

865
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,599
we can change that by keep on over the evil,

866
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239
and we could do that, just stay positive and keep

867
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,360
on doing. No one's life is perfect. Everyone's going through something,

868
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:12,800
but always no prayers work. Remember our grandparents, our ancestors,

869
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,719
they used to pray for us. That's why we're still here,

870
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,760
you know. And that's what I gotta say. And also

871
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:25,079
shut out to the Jails and Wilkins, Barber Sharp, Mark

872
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:29,599
Stelli and yeah, the list goes on your boy custom clothes.

873
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Though I can't forget you guys, and so everybody, you know,

874
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:35,920
if I forgot you, you know, I apologize. But you

875
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,960
know you're all blessings in my eyes. And you're a

876
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,599
shining star from the Icy Show. You know that's important.

877
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,239
We're all stars and we gotta we get our star

878
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,079
when we go to heaven. But also our star is

879
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:47,599
here now.

880
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: So and when's your next one? When's your next edition

881
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,360
of the show?

882
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: It is this week. I don't have my book with me, Matt,

883
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,119
I'm sorry, but follow me Jackie Brown with two c's

884
00:48:57,159 --> 00:49:00,960
j A C C I E Brown Me on YouTube

885
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,679
hashtag Icy Show ic C Y s H O w W.

886
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:13,159
And shut out to Mimi Diamond and Red rubies. Salute

887
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,800
to all three of my Queen's done, my assistants. Much

888
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,199
love and respect to all of you, and you know

889
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:22,679
always we're all royal. But keep the loyal going and

890
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,320
that's important because people don't do that nowadays. And also

891
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,719
you know the Icy Shows eight year anniversary is coming

892
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,320
up on second, so I will be given free eighty

893
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,000
lunches out every year. I always do how many years

894
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:43,079
i'm out there, so I provide eighty three lunches, it

895
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:45,599
will be ninety because I always do ten more and

896
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:47,960
then they'll always go less than an hour and a half.

897
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:51,480
And it's a good feeling because everyone smiles and smile

898
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,480
goes a long way instead of being miserable and mad

899
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,320
and angry all the time. That's the problem. People need

900
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,079
to smile, being easy on the gas out there and

901
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:02,719
stuff like that.

902
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. Well, this has been wonderful and

903
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:06,760
wonderful to have you here. We got to do this

904
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,400
more often. Let's not let another what three years go by?

905
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:13,079
Speaker 2: Yes, one more thing, Matt, I'm sorry, don't forget tomorrow

906
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:16,519
night APM to Massachusetts. I will be a judge tomorrow.

907
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,039
It's the Ladies all performance, great lineup, come check us

908
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:25,599
out Bayhallas in the building from Boston six one chef

909
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:28,800
and she's another judge, and show up to loud House

910
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,800
one more time for asking me to be a judge

911
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:34,519
on your platform. And let's get it tomorrow night top

912
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,960
in Massachusetts, APM type security and let's go.

913
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,679
Speaker 1: Respect excellent. Thank you so much, and uh, of course

914
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,039
thank you to Caitlin Piper and of course Jim from

915
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:47,440
Howling Hawk also for joining us today. If you miss

916
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,440
any part of today's show, it will be up in

917
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,159
just a little bit at Wmnhradio dot org and of

918
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,639
course at my website Matt Coonnorton dot com. And that's

919
00:50:55,679 --> 00:50:57,039
gonna do it for us for now. We're out of here.

920
00:50:57,199 --> 00:50:58,480
Ge girl again, thank you so much.

921
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: You're ninety five point three, went back, called it to

922
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,440
left start.

923
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Bye, everybody,