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Speaker 3: We got Brady Papinga on the line. Beat Pop. How
you living?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up buddy in the driver's seat. It's very nice.
Speaker 3: It's tremendous.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: You you you were part of some good football teams
in your career. You're looking at this BYU football team
and and uh, you know it's got to be one
of the best in BYU football history, right going ten
to one through these games.
Speaker 4: It's the best, no question, it's the best. It's been
the best from the from my I mean, I told
you talent wise, at least when you talk just raw talent,
there has been a more talented from a to Z
team too deep than we than we've ever seen a
BAU that makes sense. We can pay guys, you know,
we we have an administration that knows how to budget
and stay within the bounds of the budget to where
we have casts that can you know, we can acquire talent.
And then on top of that, you have a coaching
staff that can take already existing talent, which is either
through walk ons or scholarship players that come back from missions,
draft and arcuse me, draft, you know, get them in
there and develop them. They all termine the pros is
draft and develop, which I saw firsthand with the Green
mid Packers as I was a draft and developed prospect
and saw others do the same thing. And so it's
a it's a great time and be what you sports.
I mean, this is it, this is we're look man.
The mentality used to be, like even when I played,
the mentality was we were always the underdogs, Like I
always knew like we didn't have the firepower, we didn't
have the guys that Notre Dame had, USC had those guys.
But we always taught like just like in years past,
to b why you hey, if we can just pull
it all together one game, we could maybe beat these guys.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: That was the mentality. Now the mentality is different. I
hope everybody understands that we have guys from top to bottom.
We could go into anywhere, Ohio, State, Notre Dame, name
a place, we can go there and compete, and we
are going to have just as good of talent as
they are. So now it's not any more about talent
like you used to be, and hopefully we just have
it all come together and we dominate, like against I
don't know if you were at that game, but the
first game ever played in at and T Stadium, Oklahoma,
the YU we were not anywhere close to talented as Oklahoma.
I never forget it because after we beat Oklahoma, you know,
all the scouts come up to me and I've shared
the story. That's probably my fourth time sharing it on
the air. I'm i shared again and they come up
to me, and Josh Snyder was one of them, who's
the current general manager of the Chattle Seahawks. He's like, ready,
who should we look out for? Who? Man, you guys
must haven't got And I'm like, man, I you know,
I'm always brutally honest, and so I'm just thinking, like,
who you really a pro prospect? And I was like,
I don't know. I was like, You're just gonna have
to go see for yourself. Sure enough, after he comes
back he comes up to me, He's like, how did
you guys win that game? He's like, he's like, Oklahoma
was way more talented than you guys. I was like,
that's the beauty of BOU That's the magic of BYU.
So what's really potent is as long as we keep
and Clente's done a nice job of this, as long
as we keep that mentality chip on our shoulder going
out there playing with that urgency and that the mentality, Hey,
we're gonna prove that we belonged. And then you couple
that with talent. This is what you get. Ten to
one team, toughest schedule in the history of BAU football,
best team top to bottom in the history of BAU football.
This is what you get, ladies and gentlemen. And here
we are. And so we are in the upper x
lone of programs in college football, and we're gonna have
a chance to continue to prove that we get and
week out and I tell you, when we play clean
and execute, we will play with anybody in this country.
And then it's just a matter of hey, can you
make one more play or can you get on a
roll versus that opponent to then win the game. And that's,
like I said, yet to be seen when we get
into those situations. But that's how good we are. We
can beat anybody anytime, anywhere, and if we execute and
play clean discipline, don't beat ourselves. Man, we're going to
be in every single game, and we just got to
make that one more play.
Speaker 2: Brady, what did you learn about this b YU football
team heading out on the road getting a double digit
win versus Cincinnati at their place?
Speaker 4: One thing that I think Klane has talked about this,
but I've always seen and this goes back to when
I played a lot of times, guys will make mistakes,
team overall will make mistakes. But one thing that you'll
find out from the collective kind of mentality of BIU
is the guys will learn like they will take it
being okay, we're not repeating that, And that to me
was the overarching theme of this game against Cincinnati was
they said, you know what, we went out and played
a really air field game against Texas Tech. Unforced, by
the way, Now unforced in the sense not that a
Texas Tech didn't have anything to do with it, but
unforced in the sense that they weren't physically you know,
you know they didn't. Nobody knocked the botut of Parker's
hands of the punt, nobody forced any bad punts or
bad cakes. But there was the pressure there, and so
I thought our guys came empoised, composed and focused on
let's play clean and lo and behold who was the
team that ended up self destructive Cincinnati? Three miss fil goals,
horrendous fumble on the red zone, number of really boneheaded mistakes.
I thought there was a targeting callum bear actually that
the ref missed. Yeah, which was even more idiotic because
you just never, you don't ever in today's modern day football,
lower your headed any quarterback in the pocket ever. I
mean that is a risk that you're ejected, and you know,
a whole chain reaction of things happened. But when you
go and you look at this game, to me, that
that's what it came down to. We didn't beat ourselves,
which we did against Texas Deck. I'm not saying that
beats Texas Tech, but for surely if you're playing a
team in a high States game like this, this game
at Cincinnati was probably the highest States game they've ever
had in Cincinnati, because if they win, they stay in contention,
not that it's likely, but they stayed contention to making
it to the playoffs. They basically knock us out. They
play the eleven team in the country. They got big
new you know, one of those national TV you know,
highlight shows there. It's probably the most attention Cincinnati has
had it in the university in a long long time.
And that was a huge game. And for us to
go in there and stayed poised, it shows that they
learned how to handle that situation against Texas Tech. And that,
to me was what I thought was the number one
overarching game of that game was they've learned from their
mistakes and they don't repeat them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as NDP balls, game balls, could you
hand them out to offensively? Defensively? Special teams wise? Who
stood out to you from a personnel standpoint.
Speaker 4: Well, the whole offensive line. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna
put it this way, like the MVP was like a
player that had exceptional Well, shit, you can't even do
that because I'll tell you that the easy ones LJ.
You know, if you sure, if you're looking at the stats, like, oh,
LJ was the MVP. But I'm gonna tell you guys,
you go watch our receivers, our tight ends all across
the board. Offensive lineman, uh, you know, the the other
backs like the twenty one what's his name, Mahini Mahini ye, yeah,
Nick coming in, they blocked their tails off. Man, I'm
telling you second level, third, how many levels you need?
These guys offensive line were like, you know how we
do pursued drills on defense. They were doing that on offense.
With Bruce pursuing the ball downfield. He got hal you know,
a terrible holding call. By the way, it was not
a holding call. He just bare hugged the guy, which
everybody does that, and he blasted him and he kind
of looked, i think from an angle like he held him, but.
Speaker 5: He did not.
Speaker 4: I Mean, this was and this wasn't just like out
here their play here that This was every single play,
every single play. And the only time since Satty really
could beat us is they had, you know, they run
a three three five kind of defense. Is they had
to trick us, you know, because they were constantly slanting, blitzeeing,
overload doing this and they had to sometimes they kind
of got us and it was very rare, uh to
where they got us to block the wrong guy and
you know, one guy, the most dangerous one was free
and then he made the you know, play for no gainer,
tack for loss. So I'm talking like maybe three plays
is however many plays we had, which to me, that
was almost as impressive as just playing against the freaking
stud defensive front where you know they're going to be
all the time because you don't know whether those defenders
or Cincinnati are going to be after the snap because
that's how much movement they were doing, and man across
the board, it was like it was like a work
of art man. So I would give the game ball
to the offense for their commitment to being a running offense.
And it just like I said, it's not We're not
just talking about the line in the back. We're talking
about the line, the tight ends, the receivers and the back.
And then you know, you can't say all that without
also knowledging the exceptional performance of LJ. The guy was tough,
he was gritty. I know there was a couple of
times he was he was hearing the whispers of his
body say, dude, tap out, you're done, You've had two
one of you yards. Tap out, and he kind of
want to tap out, and then he said no. I
don't know if he was a prompted from the highline,
but he said no, and he pulled out. You know,
he said, I'm doing this, and we just stuffed it
down their throats. I mean that was to me like
exceptional performance. So but again, you don't get there without
all that exceptional blocking because then he's doing his thing
on top of the blocking, extra efforts, falling forward for
two or three yards, wearing the defense down. And that's
just that was beautiful, man. That was beautiful offensive the season,
and I cannot stop. I cannot. I can't leave it
there because one thing I have to acknowledge that I
just don't think people realize is you wouldn't believe how
many offensive coordinators would have felt, oh, we need to
do something other than to run the ball because they
know we're gonna run it. You wouldn't believe how many
coaches will outthink themselves like that. Props to Roderick because
the one thing that I've told him that maybe this
is selfish that I'm giving myself props. I don't know
the psychology behind it, but when you run the ball
and it's working, you do not stop until the defense
shows they can stop you. Yeah, and that's why we
kept running it. And I thought his patience and his
commitment and is just his diligence to his doing that
said hey, you're gonna have to stop us to then
have us shift or have us to just and they
didn't do it, and he just kept going. I mean
that to me was like awesome because, like I said,
I wouldn't. I can't tell you how many offensive coaches
or even just play callers on the defensive offense inside
of the ball will have like sweet calls that'll be
working like crazy and it's like, ooh, I'm gonna get
cute here. They're gonna think we're gonna do this. I'm
gonna do that, and it's like what are we doing.
Just do the thing that they can't stop and don't
change until they stop you. We don't care if they're pointing, hey,
that's coming here. On defense. He the blitz is here.
I remember remember we were playing Notre Dame and I
don't know if you remember the double blast, but blitz.
It was my favorite blitz when I played off the
ball back under Bronco double blast. You know, he looked
like he was doing two T and T explosion to
this big signal. And I remember it was fourth down,
and however, and Brady Quinn's back and there he's pointing
at me. He's like, I'm coming, and I yelled across,
I go, I have coming. You better bring two blockers.
I am coming. Oh you I have coming, I yelled
at him, up coming, I blitz, I come. They put
a stupid, dinky little back on me. I throw them aside,
sack Brady Quinn and the crab goes crazy and the
four we got the ball. You know what I'm saying.
So it's like Bronco did the same thing. The point
is is or what Roderick did by just sticking with
what was working and not changing and letting them either
step up or not. I thought it was huge because
there's so many, like I said so many times, rec
offensive coordinators just just changed the whole game plan because
they want to get cute.
Speaker 3: Amen to that. No, hey, uh, it's a it's a
it's a mentality.
Speaker 2: If you got to stop me and make me change
rather than trying to outthink everything and try to out
strategize saying, look, BLIU fans, they like the strategy behind everything.
They get really into. They kind of nerd out over like, oh,
we got to be so super schematically creative because because
of Lavell. Right, Leavell did something so monumental, like sometimes
you just gotta line up, be bigger, stronger and out
execute everybody and get downhill three yards and a cloud
of dust and force him to stop you.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but just don't think that Roderick stuff where we
line up and we just do that. He's got layers
where he's fake in the fly sweep, like that touchdown,
like you know, the touchdown to Bear, I mean he
that was a fake. Well it it was like I
skid the name of the technical term, but it's like
a read auction. But now you're incorporating the fly sweep
to Parker and everybody jumps with Parker because of what
he did to TCU last week, and all of a sudden,
you know, his influence opened up a huge gap and
there took advantage of it. So there's there's both of that,
and that's why I love about a team. It's a
combination of the creativity that I love Edwards and Mike
Hongrian and you read all those guys. You know, you
can even throw in leech that they created with the
West Coast offense and everything. It's got all that mixed
with the physical toughness. That's the sweet spot. Ladies and gentlemen,
you can do both of those, and you've got guys
to do both of those. I can tell you can
compete with anybody. And that's where we're at.
Speaker 2: Brady ppending on the line Cougar Sports, ESP and the fan, Brady,
what needs to be addressed going going into the UCF game.
Speaker 3: It looks like Chase is a little bit deemed up.
Who knows how healthy LJ is? Bear Bochmeer took a shot.
Speaker 2: Are you concerned about the offense being healthy heading into
the UCF game?
Speaker 4: Well, the big one is Chase, you know, because one
thing that Chase does really well is he can beat
man a man coverage. You put man to man coverage
on us, but you have to. That's what you do
when you have to stop the run. You load up
the box, put your safety on an island and you're
excuse me, your corners on an island, and then you
just let the Saints come down and support the run.
Uh with Chase he made teams pay constantly to do that.
So we need somebody else. Parker could be a guy,
Jojo could be a guy. Maybe Tiger. We need another guy.
We need one. We need one anyway that can step
up and basically say, look, if you were gonna go
single high, you were in trouble, which is like, you know,
loading the box. Uh. I don't know if we did
that very well against Cincinnati, although Cincinnati didn't do a
lot of single high kind of man and the man stuff.
They played a very conservative shout. They want to give
up the big play. But that's that's what we're gonna
have to learn it because I don't know what Chase's
deal is. I don't know if he's gonna be up
or down or in between. But but what an opportunity.
We got guys that can make plays. Though we got
death there, you know, so we can we can have guys.
Guys just got to get in their mentality that they
got to be the guy, you know, And I think
Jojo could be that guy. He's big, he's physical, that
he had a heck of a catch. He had some
drops in the last few games, but I thought he
came back nicely against Cincinnati, and so that's that's a
concern Bear getting hit. You know what, Tough it up, man, LJ.
Tough it up. This is everybody's hurt right now. Tough
it up. Let's go play, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And with Bear, one one suggestion I would give him
if you ever asked me, would be here. Just if
you know you're dead in the water, just get down
and try to avoid the direct hits. You know, I
had to say that to most most quarterbacks. You'll learn
how to avoid the direct hit because because he's doing
a good job passing, knowing how to kill the play
and not give up some stupid interception or whatever. Now
he's got to take that to his running and know
when you know what, there's nothing there, just get down.
Speaker 2: Wise words Berdie papinga here on ESPN the Fan. So this, uh,
this offensive line I thought did a tremendous job. Obviously
LJ was phenomenal. I thought the play call was great.
T J would deserve a lot of credit here with
how good this offensive line has been in there bounce
back from Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, that was a struggle.
Speaker 2: I didn't get as much of a push they got
behind they're playing from behind, maybe didn't continue to want
to run the football. Eligi was a little bit dinged up, etc.
And Bear was not nearly as effective. He just wasn't
getting linear. He was maybe you know, shuffling in going
east and west. But the last two games something's changed.
This offensive line is is much better. Granted they're going
to get lesser opponents, but TCUs front was good, and
I thought since he had had some good defenders as well,
don't they CORLIONI coming back and getting into the lineup,
he was a tough move as well.
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta understand too, there's two ways to stretch
a defense. Stretching vertically, you can stretch them horizontally. One
thing that we did not do well against text Tech
that was exploited. We did not stretch them horizontally very
well at all. And I almost think it was because
we over respected. Not that you under respect, because there's
still phenomenal players their edge guys. But I thought we
were so concerned with them wrecking the game that it's
like we wanted to keep everything inside, everything vertical, and
we didn't want to stretch out the problem with that
is is stretching out of defense is one of the
most effective ways to beat size speed because instead of
it being a size speed game, when you're moving teams
or defenses horizontally, you're now daring them or challenging them
to have to move in sync, meaning every single player
then has to move horizontally at the same speed. If
there's one guy that's a step behind, that creates a
natural seam in your defense. And I don't think we
did a good enough job of at least showing that
picture against Texas Tech. We obviously did against TCU, and
we also did again Cincinnati. Again I referenced that fare
touchdown run was how that works. You just get those
linebackers thinking or somebody thinking, man, this is a fly sweed,
but well, and then they take one extra step that
creates a gap naturally. And like I said, it's not
that you're beating their speed, it's not even beating their side.
Speaker 5: So there's a.
Speaker 4: Schematic element to it too that if we get to
play Texas Tech again, which I'm really soeling confident we are,
and if they win, you know, if they got to
go to West Virginia, winn which by the way, is
not going to be a guinea I would imagine we're
going to do a lot of that. We're going to
stretch them horizontally and then challenge them again and vertically,
and that that helps them on both aspects of that.
So I think there's a lot of that going on.
This last week. We were stretching teams vertically in addition
to going at them, excuse me, horizontally in addition to
go at him vertically.
Speaker 3: What are you most concerned about heading into the UCF game.
Speaker 4: I think you mentioned it is the injuries. Also looking ahead,
you know, thinking hey, this is a gimme. This is
not a gimme. UCF has got talent. I haven't done
a deep dive study on them. I will here in
a couple of hours. But like any team of the
Big twelve, they're gonna be talented. They're gonna be good
enough to beat BYU. Everybody's got players. I hope everybody
knows that everybody's got s callship, that everybody's getting paid.
So BYU is gonna have to show up, have to
just block out the noise. It's gonna be a great
day in Leveedwards State. I think it's gonna be cold,
a little snowy, that means you're gonna go want to
go stick these guys in the face. You don't want
to give them a little experience of what's it like
to play contact football and cold rigid weather it hurts
a lot more. And you're gonna have to test their toughness.
You're gonna have to bring them to a point of
discomfort that these Florida boys are gonna have to figure
out do we want this, do we really want to
go here or not? And if they do, good for
them and it's not, they're gonna have a problem. But
we gotta be willing to bring him there. And so
we got to come out and play our game.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see some some guys step up in
the wider TV corps the to whord. Like I said,
with Chase being down, most likely I don't know. I
don't know what he's down or up, by the way,
but I'm assuming he's down if he is down, so
that they can show, Hey, if you're gonna manaus up
because you're loading the box, I am going to be
a guy that you better give help to because it's
not going to rip you apart. So I like to
see that and those are the same you know, in
the same breath. They're concerns. So there's a lot to
be concerned about this week. There's a lot, a lot
of human nature that we're gonna have to fight against.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at the forecast snow on the
horizon on Friday, and it could be a cold one
all day on on Saturday, especially with the early one. Yeah,
so it'll be uh, I mean, given that it's a
day game, though it may be a little bit warmer.
I was actually hoping for like kind of an evening game,
so it's even colder.
Speaker 4: Well the one that I think getting up and going
playing a cold game, in some ways is more difficult
than having kind of the data a climate hacklimate to
the cold letter can be a little more challenging. But
either way, I mean, it doesn't matter. You're gonna have
to go hit dudes in cold weather and it's probably
ten times as more painful. So you got to you
gotta be tough. You gotta be able to handle the discomfort.
Like I said, let's bring him to a place of discoverman.
See if they're willing to.
Speaker 3: Do that, right.
Speaker 2: Butpinga here on ESPN the fan discussing this BYU Cougar
football team. If Bear's shoulder is not one hundred, if
he can't sling it like he has been with the
amount of power and velocity that he's been able to do,
you look at possibly playing McKay Hillstead or Trayson Borgay
or Emerson Goleman.
Speaker 4: It's always going to be a question of is a
banged up Bear better than a hundred percent backup quarterback situation?
You know, that's always the question. So that'd be something
that they'll have to look at in film. You know,
I'll take a look at it when they start to
practice here tomorrow and Wednesday.
Speaker 5: And it's not hard to see. You.
Speaker 4: I thought he came back when he did have you know,
he was complaining about the shoulder on the sideline and
he looked like he had zero adverse effects, you know,
but that's you know, you got adrenaline pump into your body.
You got a lot of stuff going on there. But yeah,
it's always the question when guys are banged up, you know,
is it gonna get worse? And if it does, you know,
do we want to take that risk? In the other
part is performance is a banged up bear, is he
as effective as one hundred percent McKay or some of
these other guys, and that's something that they're going to
have to take a look at as they practice through
the week.
Speaker 2: Brady, real quick before I let you go. Cougar's in
the pros? Who stood out to you this season? Who's
you been most impressed by? Out of the group?
Speaker 4: Book is a killer man. I dude is just a
dynamic receiver, you know, and you just you just can't
cover them because everybody thinks to have him covered and
then he whips out some acrobatic catch and then the
fly suites the quarterback or excuse me, the running back
kind of plays that he excels at or just I mean,
he's not a big dude, but he runs like he's big.
You know, he's kind of converted into it. Deebo Samuel
kind of player, which you know, Deebo made that kind
of popular with the forty nine ers. But now you
got you know, Puka taking it to a whole other level.
So it's it's been fun to see his set and
in success. Like I said, the NFL dbs, I think
overall talent evaluators. Heck, when he with him going in
the sits round. Had no idea how good of an
NFL football player.
Speaker 5: He is going to be.
Speaker 4: Now they do now you know it played him a
good contract. He's getting a lot of respect. But man,
he's been fun to watch.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's get out to the hotline.
Speaker 2: Welcome in former b YU great, former NFL quarterback, the
quarterback scientist of three DQB.
Speaker 3: We got John Beck on the line. Gine, how that
ca are you? Man?
Speaker 5: I'm doing good?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 5: How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, this season right has been one of glory.
Speaker 3: Right it is.
Speaker 2: It has been a fantastic season, and you really have
to realize, like going into this last half of this season,
Aaron Rodrick, THEOC said, this is going to be the
toughest stretch of b why you football in BYU football history.
I'm like, you know what, it's argued, it arguably is,
and BYU is five and one in that span.
Speaker 3: Pretty special, no doubt, absolutely.
Speaker 5: I mean the way they're playing ball in all three
phases and to do so many of these things on
the road against teams that are traditionally been pretty tough
to play on the road. And I know that some
of these teams, maybe you could say, like haven't quite
been the same, like Iowa State's been so tough on
the road, and they've been a little bit tougher in
years past, but you still have to do it in
the moment. You know, a lot of times you're finding
out afterwards sometimes that oh, hey, you know, these teams
lose a couple in a row. But I also think
it's because they're playing BYU. I think it's because of
just how good of an all round team BYU is
and how physical, Like you look at how physical the
defense plays, how physical BYU is in the run game.
I think a lot of these teams when it's you know,
the day after and two days after, I think there's
a lot of guys on the teams they play that
are just probably a bit beat up as they head
into that next week having another opponent because they're playing BYUS.
Speaker 2: It's a difficult schedule, There's no doubt still the the
SEC Big ten pundits and analysts don't want to give
the Big twelve as much credit, but by you only
can compete with the schedule that's before it, and they've
proven that they are I think a top ten team.
How do you see BYU right now? Are they a
top ten team in college football?
Speaker 5: I think they should be. I can see just because
of the past and the way that some of these
decision makers view some teams that are fringe teams, I
can see why it feels like they want to say, well, oh,
you know, we can't guarantee them a spot. Here's here's
my take on it. I think that when you when
you get to hear the people that watch VYU football play,
meaning the guys that are commentating on the game, that
are a part of the crews that have seen BYU
multiple times, it seems like they're the ones that stand
up and say, now, this is a really good YU
football team. This is a football team that has what
it takes to be in the playoffs. You look at
what they do, what they've accomplished, the teams they've beat,
how they've beat them. I know outside people want to say, well,
if they beat Arizona, it should have been by more. Well,
Arizona's a pretty vain good football team beating a lot
of people this year. And even though you can say
it would have looked better to beat them like a
different way, how about the fact that BYU is still
beating those teams every single time they play them, and
they're doing it in tough moments, like really good football
teams have to win tough moments. You look at the
Utah game right now. You know Utah is nipping on
BYU's hills like most people have them a spot behind YU.
And you look at the way that BYU won that game, Like,
to me, those are where the people that really truly
see BYU, they know what they're looking at, they know
how good of the team they are. What BYU has
to do now is just try to control their own destiny.
And I think that's why, Like, look, this thing's probably
going to end up being decided by the Big twelve
championship game. And I know we talked about it last week,
but what an awesome opportunity if it does come down
to that, to get to play the same Texas Tech
team you played a few weeks ago. And really everything
is on the table right everything you could hope for
as a team, as a player of go out win
that game.
Speaker 2: Now, there's no questions asked John bear Bachmeier didn't have
his best game fifteen to twenty five, one hundred and
twenty seven yards, five point one yards per attempt. He
did run the ball thirteen times forty six yards three
point five yards per attempt in one touchdown. RG three
kept on saying, Hey, he's a linear runner, not at
north south runner, not an east west runner.
Speaker 3: What did you see from Bear?
Speaker 2: What did you like and what does he need to
maybe improve a bond heading into the final stretch of
the season.
Speaker 5: Well, I think this was a very gritty per by Bear.
I think that you could see at the end of
the game what he's playing through and how he's battling
like crazy. I know, from a statistic standpoint, a passing standpoint,
all of those things, Like it wasn't a great night
for him, but you know, look, every young quarterback has
those during his journey. Bear has started every single football game.
That's a huge accomplishment for how much he's ran the
football this year, For the way that he's played, to
be able to play every single snap of the games
that he's been in, to carry the guys and the
team the way that he has, it's been super impressive.
I think that like any young quarterback, like I was saying,
they are going to experience some games where it's tough,
your battling through something and your run game carries you
and your defense carries you and that's okay. Any young
quarterback that's gone on to be a really really good
quarterback looks back and has some of those games that
you go through and you just do. And this is
where the team around BYU, I mean sorry, the team
of BYU around Bear really stood up and show just
how good of a football team they are, right like
this is around Bear, this is an exceptional football team.
You look at l J. Martin, the load that he
carried to go and set his rushing you know, I
think it was most yards right that he's done, and
you get to hear some of the statistics and all
of the categories that he's leading the Big Twelve. If
we are sorry, if BYU wants to beat really good
football teams, it has to be because they are a
team that is well rounded that when it's a little
bit of a tough night on a young quarterback in
the passing game, that the run game steps up and
plays the way that they played. And I just hope,
you know, we got to get Bear healthy, We got
to get keep guys healthy, get Chase you know healthy.
All of those things need to happen over the next
few weeks. In preparation for what looks like can be
a big game for the championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how deemed up Chase is, LJ is
Bear is right?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Do you think they all three of those guys play
versus U see after you think some of these guys
are held out in that UCF game at home?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what that's That's kind of a tough
one to say, because the one thing you don't want
to do is you don't want to, you know, walk
into a game ever being like, hey, guys, look like
this is an easy one because I I've been a
part of one game like that when I was in college,
where like I was kept out of a game because
we were playing a team that hadn't won a single
game in like fourteen weeks or twelve weeks. Like, you know,
there are some situations where the coaching staff does approach
a player and say, hey, look, we know you want
to play, but in the best interest of what's going
to happen the week after and going forward, you know,
we really like we have to set you down because
this team we're playing against really is so bad. I
don't know. I had to look at UCF on tape
or anything like that, Like I'm not sure what their
situation is like, but I do think, you know, you
have to be smart in what the signal sends to
the rest of the team, Like it has to be
an opponent that you really can and you're not concerned
in the slightest to make that happen. I think if
it's a game that that you know could be competitive,
if the other team absolutely shows up and then you
got to be smart about it, then it might be
something where it's like, hey, if we get a lead
by x amount, we're shutting people down rather than just
going into a week saying, hey, we are going to
not play you this week. And so I think that's
what kind of matters is how the team views UCF.
But I do think doing things to get guys healthy.
I think in some cases there's nothing you can do,
it's just a part of this season, and then in
other guys cases, it can make a huge difference. I
remember in that game that happened to me, I remember
feeling very frustrated because it's like, you don't like, you
don't even let that enter your mind that you might
not be playing in a game because you want to
be on the field, and you have to kind of
like swallow your pride a little bit, or you have
to look at the betterment of what's what's actually the
best thing for the football team, what's the best thing
to win a huge game the following week? And I
will say, like I remember that I did feel better,
like the injuries that I was trying to battle through,
it did make a significant difference to not play a
game on him. And so that that could be the
case for those guys at u AU.
Speaker 2: When you saw a bear take that hit to his
throwing shoulder and he was win singing pain as he
trotted off the football field, what was your reaction to it?
Speaker 5: I know what that feels like, you know, he's he
When I'm trying to think of the right way to
say this without saying too much, here's the thing. It's
just part of the way that things are being played
right now, and what can happen to a quarterback playing
that style and yet what you have to do in
the passing game, It's not uncommon for quarter to have
to push through a similar injury, but because of the
style that Bare plays, it's something that's kind of like
you just are crossing your fingers, Like, let's hope that
he doesn't get hit in certain ways where then that
thing slares up even more. Everybody's pushing through things, but
as a quarterback, when you have things that you're dealing with,
you know, shoulders, lower half, ankles and knees, those type
of things. I have a number of quarterbacks that I'm
hoping that you know, ankle injuries for a quarterback man,
because of the ground and the force production and delivering footballs,
ankles and shoulders, you can play through them. But man,
it is just tough because like a little hit here
or there, certain throws that you need certain juice on,
or you're accustomed to throwing a certain way. It's just
those can be tough. And I just think, you know,
we got to see a little bit on you know,
in front of everybody, what playing that position and battling
through an injury looks like like and a really tough kid.
I mean, Bear is a super tough kid, and you
could see like he goes to the side and it's
painful and he's battling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wonder if it'd be best to sit him
in the UCF game and maybe give McKay hillstead or
tracing borgea shot. Whoever is winning that QB two spot.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's where, like you're smart about it,
like what's the situation of that team, like what like
what level are they? You know? I think that it
could be something where you see BA you say, look,
we're gonna have everybody because it's young players, right, It's
not like it's not a veteran player. Like Bear's still young.
He's only got what eleven starts under his bed. Will
consider a young player. You might have him played the
beginning and if Bau gets out to a good lead early,
then make a change, you know, just because every opportunity
that Bear gets right now to face an opponents can.
But sometimes when you're talking about more like juniors and seniors,
guys that just have so much experience all ready, they
might be the ones like a Chase, like an lj
of saying like hey, like we're going to be good,
like we got this. Let's completely give your body the
rest that it needs because we absolutely need you in
a huge way. And I remember that conversation, like the conference,
this next game can determine the conference, and we have
to think about how important that game is compared to
this one right here that I know you want to
be in, but we don't necessarily need you in.
Speaker 3: John LJ.
Speaker 2: Martin had one of the best rushing performances in BYU
football history when you take into account maybe location, opponent,
ramifications of conference championship and.
Speaker 3: College football playoff birth.
Speaker 2: He had thirty two carries two or twenty two yards
six point nine yards per carry, two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: He also had three receptions forty four yards.
Speaker 2: And he was involved in past pro as well, So
a lot of reps, a lot of productivity, a lot
of just grit there a lot of physicality with him.
I believe from a total rushing standpoint total rushing yards,
that's like number five or number six in total rushing
yards from an individual and an individual performance at BYU.
Where do you think you ranked this rushing performance all
time in BYU football history. We saw Curtis do some
magical things when we were there. We saw Harvey as well.
Right after you. Jamal Williams, Tyler Algiers had some great games,
and Luke Staley had some phenomenal games.
Speaker 3: Where do you think that ranks out?
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you know LJ has to be
up there with all of those guys. I love all
those guys so much. Had the opportunity to be around
Luke a little bit when I was a freshman and
just blown away by how somebody that big and muscular
could be that fast and that explosive. And I think,
you know, got to play with Curtis and Harvey, both
two unbelievable backs, and we've got to see you know,
aw jir, There's been a stretch of guys that are
just so so talented. And I've been so impressed with
Elge the entire time he's been at BYU. What an
impressive young man. I mean, how muscular and the balance
like he is such a physical runner that just gets
off so many tackles and has such great balance. And
I think you have to My guess is that there
are NFL teams, you know, watching him. They will show
up in pregame warm ups because they want to see him. Why,
they want to be upfront and personally see what his
body looks like. And they're taking that in during pregame
warm ups, and then they are watching him in the
game just shed off so many tacklers and run through
tackles and bounce off hits. I mean that to take
that hit that he took last night and to stay
on his feet and I'm sorry not last night on
a Saturday night and run forward. I mean, I've just
been so impressed with him, and I know the physicality
that he runs with. He is a guy that his body.
I mean, he is probably in ice tubs doing tons
of treatment. I mean I remember being around like a
guy like Willis McGahee in the NFL and Ricky Williams,
very very physical runners. But you see what they have
to do day for their body so that they can
continue to run that way throughout the course of a season.
And so you know, those guys that run the way
the LJ does are just absolute warriors. And it's been
so awesome as somebody that loves BYU football and watch
what he's done and how that's helped his football team.
That performance on Saturday night was especially because of where
this team is at vying for I mean, arguably one
of the biggest conference games a BYU's played, will play
and in all of their whack, you know, Mountain West,
all of the conferences that they've been a part of,
to help carry a team on the way to what
could be one of the biggest ever conference games you
know that they've played in. I mean, it's just so impressive.
And we're lucky to have a back like LJ at
Byu and to do what he's done. It's been awesome.
Speaker 3: They're at the Cincinnati game.
Speaker 2: Something controversial happened, John, I know you remember the Church
of Jesus Christ, the Laturday Saints. Another F the Mormons
chand emerged at the Cincinnati game. These are typically coming
from the student sections, right, and so I have a
I have probably more grace than some. But there has
been violence that has occurred amongst the Latter day Saints
this past year, where there's been attacks on churches and
deaths and murders.
Speaker 3: Is it Is it a big deal? Is it not
a big deal?
Speaker 2: You know, I've I've always said, hey, you can say
F B YU, but just don't say F the Mormons, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, look like we've been players, right, and so
F B y U, F the Mormons. I mean, you
play at Wyoming their entire stadium. One site says F,
the next site says the other site says B YU.
And you know, I mean, look, I'll admit I've had
it so much. You just kind of laugh at it
because it happens all the time. Yeah, like the f
the Mormons, like you know, I mean I can remember
in pregame warm ups student sections that are there early, right,
the student sections love those things, you know. I mean look,
as a of the church, something that means a lot
to me. I wish they would choose something different they don't.
I think it was absolutely amazing what the church did
and donating the gigantic donation that they did to their
like their food pantry for students.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I think those are the types of things that there
are some people that they could care less. Right, They're
going to do their thing no matter what. I think
the hope would be that maybe there's a few people
afterwards that think about what they were saying and maybe
take into consideration like what the church stands for, Like
the Church stands for Christ. The Church stands for goodness
and love and compassion and forgiveness and caring for humanity.
And are you know the church went out and made
a gigantic donation for humans because a christ Like act
is caring and loving others. And I would hope that
maybe there's some people that in that student section maybe
pause to think about once they learned the full magnitude
of what was done for their university by the church,
and then what happened afterwards, and maybe just pause and say,
maybe that wasn't the best thing, because all we can
hope for, right is change, change for the better, right, Like,
everybody's going to make mistakes, Like everybody in their lifetime
is going to say things that they look back and regret.
And you know what student sections. I grew up going
to Arizona State football games, and so I heard a
lot of things yelled by student sections, and you know,
it's part of just what happens sometimes on game day,
and you know, things build, and you know, you can
get into the psychology of things of how people follow others,
you know, and I'm sure the alcohol and everything. I mean, look,
it is what it is. Like, yes, it would be
way better if it didn't happen, but it did. And
I think at the end of the day, if there's
some people that can pause and recognize, like, let's think
about what really we were yelling at, like we were
saying f the people that were just doing all these
kind acts like, and then we can just hope that,
you know, something changes and it's better. And I'm sure
there's going to be something that happens with the university.
I'm sure there's going to be something where the university
probably stock talks to their student body. There may be
some type of fine by the Big twelve. I mean, ultimately,
do I think the FBI or if the Mormon chance
are going to go away because of it? No, like
it doesn't go away. It's been happening forever. It's going
to continue to happen. But I would just hope it
would be awesome if some people could be influenced by
the goodness and recognize, you know, what the church is
trying to do with the kind things that they do, no.
Speaker 3: Doubt about it.
Speaker 2: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, former b YU, great former
quarterback talking some BYU football.
Speaker 3: John.
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Speaker 5: I mean, look, we already have some people coming down
during the Thanksgiving break getting some work in. What I
have seen is a lot of people win their season ends.
Well here's this, I'll say. The best thing I think
I can do is you need to sit down and
review all of your tape. Go back through all of
your tape, because this is a way to extract all
of the information that can help you grow as a player.
A lot of kids and I and I suggest this,
like go play basketball, Go do another sport, Go and
start working and build your athleticism different ways. But finish
the season by extracting what you can extract, work and
improve just a little bit more. You don't have to
still be playing games. We have a lot of guys
down here that are coming down throughout this week and
throughout the weekends in December where it's just before basketball hits,
before baseball starts again at the turn of the year,
like all of these things, like they're just trying to
find ways to improve a little bit more having gone
through the season. And we have guys that will say, hey,
I'm going to pull some clips. Can we get sit
down and can we go through some of my clips
together so that I can see what your I see,
so that I can improve going into this next offseason.
Because what happens a lot of time with multi sport
athletes is they don't get as much time in the winter,
spring and so they're trying to pull what they can
right now, build on a few things so then once
they finish their sport, they hit the ground running, know
exactly what they want to work on for the up
next season.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know this, Like for example, today today is
a big day for the collegiate quarterbacks to go through
some mental stuff where there's situational of you know, what
they were experiencing in situations in the game leading up
to the game, during you know, the roller coaster ride
that a quarterback goes through during a game. You have
to have tools to handle those situations. This is why
experience matters so much. You know, you you gain so
much by going through the experience. But what I've seen
is if you can start the acquisition of the correct tools,
then as you go through those experiences, you're sharpening those tools,
rather than going through the experience and then wondering, oh
my gosh, like what tool did I need for that?
And then you're trying to acquire it during the season.
Use this this season as an opportunity to sharpen those tools.
And like I said, today's a big day of where
I get on the call with a bunch of collegiate
players that are, Hey, here's what I experienced, here's what's
going through, here's my notes of the game and the
things I want to improve on. From an emotional standpoint
and mentally, you just want to be so sharp and
you have to be able to ride through the storms
like an experienced sailor. Right, You're not like I've been here,
I know what to do, you know, But like when
the crowd's yelling, when the communication is tough, when the
coaches are responding a certain way, when you've had certain outcomes,
maybe you've had an interception early, maybe you've taken a
few poor sacks. How do you not let those experiences
alter who you are as a football player. So you
can go out and you can play one play at
a time, and all that matters is you're at your
very best on that giving play.
Speaker 2: John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, John always a pleasure man.
If b YU gets to the Big Twelve Championship game
and they lose a close one versus Tech. I hope
they get into the College Football Playoff and they get
over the hump. Do something that we weren't able to do, right,
just get over that hump. And I mean, it's just
a it's been a special season, but in the modern era,
it's it's been a little bit. I don't know, it
eats at me that BYU we since nineteen ninety six
we have been able to get over to hump, whereas
Boise State and UCF and Utah and TCU and just
go down the list, Northern Illinois even they all kind
of got over the hump when we could.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that there is I view those some
of those things as its multi year meaning when when
Boise State was able to do it, it wasn't And
now look, a Stattician might be able to go back
and prove me wrong. I'm just kind of going off
the top of my head, But you know, I think
that it's because the season before the great season, you know,
needed to be much better. A lot of the times
you need to have a ten eleven wins season before
you have the season that gets you over the hump,
like going six and six, going seven and five, something
like that, like or you know, seven and six, like
those type of seasons, and then trying to follow it
up with a great season, like you need to start higher,
You need to be people be aware of you a
little bit more. You don't want to start the great
season with close losses in the beginning and then all
of a sudden it hit a stride where you're on
fire and you can go play with anybody. Like it
helps to finish the season with eleven wins, go into
a season with people saying like, man, this could be
a really good football team. You're on their radar, and
then when you start winning early, you start moving up
faster and sooner. Like I think some of those Boise years,
some of those TCU years, even some of those Utah years,
like look at the season before it. They had a
good season before it that helped put them on the map,
and then they started out hot and that's why they
were able to climb. And so you're viewed differently. I
believe when you've done it for a few years. That's
why I actually think like this one BYU, I think
has the best chance it's had because of last year's season,
because of how they started, how they've flown up early,
you know, and you only have a loss against arguably
you know, Texas Tech may end up top top four.
You know, they're top five right now, like they could
be one of the teams that ends up getting a buy.
We don't know what happens the rest of the year,
but I do think that at BYU. Look, I want
to see him win, but if for some reason they
don't and they can keep it super super close. Man,
to be a team that has won twenty something games
in two years and to do what they've done this year,
I think that people have to take a look at that,
they really really do, especially if Texas Tech and ends
up being a top four and you barely lose to
a top four team, and with what BYU's done, I
think it sets them up as good as it's been
for Byu.
Speaker 2: John, We always appreciate our time and invite everyone to
elevate their suit game, just like you've elevated your suit
game at Odion Mensworth.
Speaker 3: Thanks for hopping on.
Speaker 5: Buddy, sounds good, We'll see it.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: That is John Beck and a great segment with him
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