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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to a new episode of the Poker

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Go Podcast Special Edition podcast. Because I have Jeff Platt

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here with me today, I have to ask you, though

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I have no idea what your actual title is, so

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please tell me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to tell you, Donnie, I would

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love to tell you it is Global Broadcast Talent.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that face of the experience.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that when you're on stage just today MC,

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so I've kind of heard it all, okay, but I

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like your official ones so global we can get the

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actual people to tell you that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, say that let's go. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: You can refer to me as that really just guy

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with a microphone, though it works. I appreciate you having

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me on. By the way, I pretty much demand it

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to be on. When I heard Donnie with his first podcast,

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he did actually text me, please please let me on.

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Let me jump on with you at least once a Monthther's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you know.

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Speaker 1: I won't normally release episodes by themselves, but I think

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this one is warranted. And it's funny because I wanted

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to have you on to talk about the exact things

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that we're gonna talk about. I just I'm worried about

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abusing the relationship. Oh come on, but you ask all

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these people all the time, and it's like, really at

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some point, like you know, the worst is when people

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are running deep in the main event and you talk

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to them on day five, then you talk to him

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on day six and I'm like, can I talk to

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you once again one more time? I mean, I'm sorry,

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but you're kind of doing well, like you know, what

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are we gonna do? But for me, I love it,

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like I love jumping on and talking with you, and

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it doesn't, of course have to be about stuff that

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I promote. I feel like we both share this passion

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for poker, so this is a cool space for me

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to be involved in. So always happy to jump on

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with you. Yeah, I mean, as you alluded to there,

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we've both been around poker for for quite a long time,

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as you much longer man, Okay, I mean, but you

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were playing, Yeah, I mean, so you've been around it.

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You know, even if you weren't exactly working in the industry, you.

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Speaker 2: Were around it absolutely.

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Speaker 1: As it relates to the doubsip though, quick timeline for

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those out there who need a little bit of a

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refresher but it goes from the Rio to the Horseshoe

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slash Paris in from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Got more than ten thousand entries in twenty twenty three.

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You know, I think. I mean, I heard Norman on

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your show yesterday saying like, if if the whole online

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poker thing didn't happen, that would have happened years ago,

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which is likely the case. And then after the online

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poker thing did happen, it was kind of a question

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of is it ever gonna happen? And then it finally

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did happen. So that's great. You got GG Poker acquiring

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the brand. In twenty twenty four, you got the WSIP

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live app. It was WASIP plus. Now it's the WASP

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Live app launching last year, which I know that might

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sound like a small thing on this timeline, but I'm

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telling you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Is a huge thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a huge thing, and now this year, I

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mean the big thing is that the venues are flipped. Right,

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this is what Horseshoe was, and it's bigger. Over here

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we are on the main set right now. Does it

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feel surreal to you going from player to working in

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the industry a bit now being escalated to the position

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that you're in. To see all those changes in a

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relatively quick period of time for the w would.

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Speaker 2: Be Yeah, it's a great question. It shows you how

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we really just skyrocketed over the last couple of years.

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You mentioned the change in locations, it's because the set

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just couldn't fit in Horseshoe. It could not fit. So

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for the World Series of Poker under the new ownership

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you mentioned to be willing to make that kind of

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investment along with investing in the app. I mean, I

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think it shows you what the future could become, and

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that's something that WSP is really looking out for. That's

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really why I wanted to align myself with this brand

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moving forward.

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Speaker 1: When you first got into the industry, obviously you have

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a media background before getting into poker on the working

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side and the industry side of things.

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Speaker 3: Was that a goal of yours?

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Speaker 1: Were you like, I want to get into that industry

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and I want to do the media stuff and I

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want to eventually work my way up whatever that may be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dream job. You and I have talked about

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the main event being the greatest poker tournament in the world.

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It is over these I don't care what anyone says,

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it just is. It's just at another level. So the

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super Bowl, so to speak, for me and for a

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lot of us in poker, is the World Series of

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Poker main event. With what I do specifically in hosting

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or sideline reporting or global broadcasts talenting, it just makes

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sense that that would be my dream job, right to

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be involved in that World Series of Poker main event,

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to be able to tell the story of the greatest

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poker tournament in the world to a wider audience to

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people who cannot make it live. And it took a

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crazy fortunate balance here and there with timing, and then

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it was twenty twenty and then Kara couldn't do it,

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and I'm sure a lot of people couldn't do it.

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So Dan Gotti eventually got to me on his list,

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and since then, I just I just got in at

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the right time, and I'm so thrilled, proud, honor to

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be here. I realized some like that could sound maybe

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corny in a sense, but like it's really genuine for me.

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It's something that I think about a lot, that this

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is true dream job status for me to be involved.

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Speaker 1: You're you're really closely connected to the player experience, the

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fan experience. You know, a lot of the stuff that

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you wanted to make happen here. You're like, we got

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to make the viewing experience better. You've always said that's

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what's the most fun part of that side of the gig.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just that everybody's open to listening to

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everybody else, not just me. But I can get time

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with Ty Stewart, our CEO, or Spunky, our head of production,

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and we'll have a great back and forth. And they

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are always looking for what I have to say, what

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other people have to say. They're good at gathering opinions.

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Nobody has to be right one hundred percent of the time.

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So just to really have a seat at the table,

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just to be in the room during these discussions, just

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to throw out some opinions, it helps you set it.

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Because I'm not I don't consider myself just a broadcaster,

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but a player a little bit on the side. So

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I want to look out for player experience, and that

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includes parking dealers, the app et cetera. I consider myself

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a fan, right so when we're out here at this stage,

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I want it to be the best setup possible, so

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you show up and you know what's going on, your

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view is not blocked. And then speaking of views, I'm

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a viewer also, so I know, like I think, I

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know what I would like, what you would probably like,

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what most people would would probably like, and it's nice

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to be able to have a say in every single

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one of those areas.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of views, you know you've been getting bombarded with

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questions on the schedule, what are you guys streaming?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: My sense of it is that I think you guys

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are base just we're turning the cameras on at let's

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say two o'clock every day, the stream's going to start

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it let's say five o'clock every day or whatever that

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time is, and it's just go time basically in a way,

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twenty four to seven. Once the cameras got turned on

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yesterday and now it's just every day throughout the duration

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of the series. But for the people out there, can

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you help describe, you know, what the schedule is, because

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you are getting questions, what's streaming today, what's going on?

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Where's the schedule that the schedules schedule right?

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Speaker 2: That is kind of the way I see it that

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this is new, innovative, comprehensive live stream coverage. Now we

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will focus on certain events a bit more than others.

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For example, the twenty five kads Up Championship, we will

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have them up on stage at our future tables. We

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will have the five K no limit final table on

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one of our side features, or the five KPLO Final

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table on one of our side features. So the plan

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is to have one main tournament that we're honing in

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on that we're going to show you a ton of

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coverage from. That is going to be twenty five K

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Heads Up Championship, twenty five K hi Roller, ten KGG Millions,

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two hundred fifty K Super Highroller, but also Millionaire Maker,

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Monster Stack Colossus, to try to captivate the audience no

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matter what form of poker they may be interested in,

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whether it's high bids with the Superstars, lower bi ins

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with the weekend Warriors of the world. But at the

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same time that we're showcasing all of this featured table coverage,

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we are keeping track of what's going on at the

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outer tables, so we're just taking you. The goal is

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to take you in to the World Series of Poker

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and give you a sense of everything that is going on.

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Seventy seventy five eighty percent of our coverage will be

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honed in on one event and the rest of it

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will just be out and about and see what pops

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up and see what storylines developed. So I don't really

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think there's a need to put out a specific schedule.

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I understand that people want it. We have something like

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a schedule on YouTube. It's always subject to change, and

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I think you put it perfectly. A certain time is

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gonna hit and we're gonna turn the cameras on. That's

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future table coverage, and we have a ton of camera

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crews outside to treat every day if the World Series

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of Poker like it's the main event.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the outer table coverage. Where Jeff and

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I are sitting right now are the outer tables.

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Speaker 3: This is what's the cluster. It's called the cluster.

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Speaker 1: There's twelve tables here, there's these behind us, there's five

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feature tables in.

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Speaker 3: A horseshoe shape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they're gonna be bouncing around from everything

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and then you guys can't see it. But off camera

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is a new pregame show set, morning show set, whatever

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it's being called what's the motivation behind that this year?

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Speaker 3: Well, first, are running the show.

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Speaker 2: It is called WSP Countdown. Yes, we did have a rebranding.

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just kind of turned into that pregame show that you mentioned.

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So it is me, David Williams, Joe Stapleton, Norman Chatta,

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some of a rotating cast of characters. You know, I'm

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hoping our friend Maria Hope and join us a few

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times here and there, things like that. The goal of

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this show, it's kind of like the goal of the

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live stream coverage. It's to take you inside the World

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Series of Poker to give you a sense of what

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happened last night and what to expect coming up on

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our live stream coverage. That is going to include diving

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into some hot topics. You know this the drama is

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going to pop up at some point in the World

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want to cover it. We don't want to ignore it.

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So that's the overall game plan. It will include interviews

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with big name players, it will include bracelet ceremony recaps,

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it will include live looks at whatever Daniel Lgrantini or

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feel Helmut or feel iv Er up to on that day.

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So it's just a little bit of everything, and I

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think that's why I'm excited about it. It's very easy

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to say that you want to model yourself after a

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college game day ornt inside the NBA, right, But that

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is the goal, and I hope we can take steps

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in the right direction to reach that goal.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys come into this whole summer plan with

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everything you know, new stage, the way that you're planning

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the coverage, the countdown show ahead of time, with the

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idea of like, listen, we want to push poker coverage.

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Speaker 3: To new heights. We want to set a new standard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, That's been Spunky's goal this whole time, recognizing the

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poker boom of the Moneymaker era and trying to develop

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one that doesn't necessarily rely on any specific superstar. And

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I think that's important. You know this. I feel like,

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especially in our Poker go years, how bad did we

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run as far as getting you know, big names to

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a final table or something like that. Of course, it

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feels like it. It felt like it always fell apart, right, And.

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restrictions and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, for lack of a better term, GG

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Poker's unloading the clip and it's fucking great. Okay, it's awesome,

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you know, so that, but you know, we are still partnered.

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We are still working with you guys on everything. I

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mean the Blueprint fifty two team, which is the arm

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of poker Goo that does these builds. They're the ones

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that built this set, you know. So obviously the vision

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came from the WSP side of things, but then you

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had to have the handyman in the room to make

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it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I think it's It's also an important note,

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not just because I am on the Poker podcast or

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talking with you, or because I've worked with poker Go

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or because they're still partner. I think poker Go did

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a tremendous job over the last few years in live streaming.

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well now it's not behind a paywall, but so much

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of the coverage last year was open and available on YouTube.

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Poker Go set up a distribution this year. Get right,

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they forget, They forget very quickly. Poker Go's distribution deal

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not only included the main event being televised by other

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preliminary Bracelet events being televised. I think they were great,

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But to your point, I mean, Ensis, the parent company

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of both GG and WSP, they're going to fire off.

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They are going to invest in the future, invest in

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our coverage. We want you to see this setup, whether

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it's because of an Instagram post or because you're watching

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our coverage on WSP's YouTube channel, or because you're watching

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the main event on ESPN and you see it and

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you want to be here, right, And so that's that's

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kind of the boom that we're hoping to develop, that

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that Spunky is hoping to develop. Change the game. As

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far as production is concerned. Just go bigger, Just go

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so much bigger. I don't want to say, don't worry

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about cost, but it's close to that. I mean, I'm

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looking now, you're not the one right in the check

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so you know that helps a little bit. I'm looking

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now at our countdown show set that we were just

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talking about. I see now we have like a teleprompter

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and a huge monitor for the prompter. It's just like

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these little things.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, I gotta put you on the

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spot who needs the teleprompter? Well, you think, Donnie, if

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it's pointing at Norman's seat, I know it's not you.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the other three.

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Speaker 1: I can't quite see the angle from here, but it's

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definitely fair states.

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Speaker 2: They do have a couple of monologues they want to

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go off, and so I think a.

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Speaker 3: Prompter is a question now is can they read? I mean, yeah,

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we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out soon enough.

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Speaker 1: So you saw this thing at the at the warehouse,

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the poker warehouse, like I think it was like a

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third built right now, take me back, like what was

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when you walked into you guys, your team got a

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view of like, okay, this is like basically half of

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it or a third of it. This is an idea

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of what it's gonna look like. What were your thoughts then,

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because it's it's one thing to see it on some

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renderings or in some photos, you know, but then to

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see it in real life.

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Speaker 2: Well, I not only saw the renderings, but I heard

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from Spunky and Ty that you know, this new set

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we're gonna build is three times bigger than the one

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in the Bahamas, which the WCP Paradise set was pretty

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pretty massive. I thought that was the biggest poker stage

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setup that I had ever seen. So I heard that,

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I think, okay, okay, And then I walked into the

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warehouse at Poker Ghost Campus and then I saw it.

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I was like, wow, this this is big. And then

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more it comes over and says, you know, this is

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only like a third of it.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So it's still like it still could not I could

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not process it. It could not get through my mind.

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And that's what I told everybody and the lead up

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to this, it's like I still can't get it through

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my head what it's going to look like. Even walking

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in here a week ago and seeing some of the

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set up with you, Oh wow, this is nice. This

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is really cool. But it's just ten times better than

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it was in the development process, Like this is this

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is an I know we're still searching for an ame.

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And you mentioned the arena, and I like the arena,

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and maybe it would be Grand Arena. Grand Arena is

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really good. Maybe we go back to Thunder, I don't know,

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whatever we figure out, maybe whatever pops up organically, but

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like this, this is the future of poker. This is

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the new home of the World Series. I can't emphasize

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enough just how it sounds simple, but just how cool

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it is.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, you know, fans, whether they're or

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players too, you know, but but players are ultimately fans

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of the year. I think when they you know, when

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they walk in here and they see this thing, now

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there's no more curtain when they tune into a live

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stream when they see it, what do you guys want

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them to feel.

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Speaker 2: I want them to be shocked, to be stunned that

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this is the investment that the World Series is putting

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into its home, is putting into its production. And I

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think we achieved that goal. You know, this is to

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go back to what we were saying earlier, the greatest

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poker series in the world. This is Poker's premiere event,

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and now we have a stage that really aligns with

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that description.

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Speaker 3: What's something that people don't see?

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Speaker 2: Oh, good question. People are going to see this massive

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arena and be impressed. You've probably walked through back there.

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But like the production area is wild and there are

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rows upon rows upon rows of monitors. You know, our

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countdown show is their own row. You know, we have

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a full on production crew for what four of the

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feature tables. So like our usual control room which had

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I don't know, fifteen or twenty people in it for

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a final table, like you have three or four versions

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of those. People don't see a massive production crew running

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around what feels like twenty four to seven and all

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the behind the scenes work that goes into this. I

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think that's what people may miss out on. But that

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shows you just how how big the effort is.

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Speaker 1: How do you approach the idea that it's impossible to

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make everyone happen? You know, we talked a little bit

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earlier how people are blowing you up on social media

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as so for this, that and the other thing. You know,

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even here there's people are like, you got to fix

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the parking, Jeff, you gotta fix this. You gotta fix that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I will say, by the way, he is actually parking

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where the people park. And I told him that. I said,

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why don't you just park them back? He said, no, no,

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I'm not doing I said, well, okay, people are crazy.

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You guys park in the back.

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Speaker 2: Park peacepot in the production line.

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Speaker 1: But how do you like, are you do you just

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come into it and you say, listen, we're not going

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to make everyone happy.

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Speaker 3: Or are you actually going to try and make everyone

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else well. I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Part of the role that I'm in is like is

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listening to feedback, and sometimes the feedback is going to

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be something that we agree with, and sometimes it's not.

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You know, when it comes to player experience, of course,

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like we want to make the parking situation just great

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for everybody, and so I want to genuinely like, if

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you guys feel the pain from it, I want to

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That's something we're easily going to be aligned on.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Then it comes to things that are a bit more subjective,

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I would say, where some people may tweet at us, hey, like,

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why aren't you showing this fifteen hundred dollars seven cards

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stud final table? And I appreciate the question, I don't

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personally think and I don't think our team thinks that

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that would be a great use of our resources.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I know, we go ham and add this massive production crew,

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but we're still only going to be on a certain

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amount of the time, and when we're on, we're probably

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going to lean towards showing you the Helme Use, the Negrano's,

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the Miss Rockies, the Heads Up Championship. Highlights of the

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world while leaving a side some moments here and there

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to touch on the fifteen hundred dollars seven card stud

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I like to say that we're covering every tournament. In

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a sense, some tournaments will not receive the same level

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of coverage that others do, so I do genuinely appreciate

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the feedback. I look for constructive criticism. I try to

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get back to most people on social media because we

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want to be really open about our thought process. I

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understand the later start times and how that's going to

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impact some people. This is all a huge work in progress,

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and we'll take everything under consideration.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like, you know, not sometimes

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things just hit the cutting room floor. I mean, like,

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for example, when we produce episodes, you can't cram every

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single hand into a forty four minute episode, and somebody

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might be like, well, you didn't show that hand.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you can't. You can't always. You can't always.

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Speaker 2: If we could turn every single camera on in this

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building and put up three hundred YouTube streams all at once,

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and maybe.

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Speaker 1: That that is, I don't know if there's enough with

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an electricity to actually.

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Speaker 2: Do that right, I don't know, but you know, we

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will develop, we will get better and better, and who

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knows what the future holds for us, but for now

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we feel at least somewhat comfortable with our game plan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big you know, rising tide lift lifts all boats.

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So if the World Series a poker, which is the

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biggest boat in the sea, if that can can you know,

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do its job, or the World Series Poker really is

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the rising tide to be honest, you know, if it

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can make poker bigger, everyone, you know, even competitors of

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the World Series will benefit. And I do think that,

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you know, yes, maybe you don't make every single person happy,

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you know, the person clamoring for the seven card start

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or whatever it is. Like I get it, I was

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in your shoes, you know, previous years. But the jump

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that you've already made, and if that's like a sign

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of things to come, like, Okay, this is what we

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did in year one of this whole new thing. Next year,

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let's go what's what's the next step, And then the

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next year, what's the next step. And then eventually, yeah,

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maybe if you are streaming, instead of five tables, it's

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seven tables or whatever it is. So there's there's a

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build in process. You also have to I mean, you

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can't bite off more than you can choose, right, Like

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if you came out here and said, okay, we're streaming

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twenty tables, like and then it just breaks, then you're screwed.

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Yeah right, So I get it. It's hard, it's not

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easy being in your shoes. But I also understand the

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lengths that you've gone already. I'm glad you mentioned that

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Spunky ahead of our production. He's really big on process

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and efficiency. So people come to and there, what if we,

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you know, do this and we have a special feature

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table that's in the corner. He's like, let's just get

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the process down right, Let's just keep it. Let's turn

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the cameras on the first space.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah right, let's just get off the ground and

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let's showcase this to our viewers. And once we're comfortable

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with this process, then we can fine tune in, we

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can tweak it, we can add in one thing at

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a time, but we won't go super crazy because that

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could lead to flaws at the core of the system.

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We want the core to be strong before we totally

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branch out.

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Speaker 1: You're around Poker, I mean more than anyone I mean,

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you know, you and I talk pretty much every single day.

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I know how much you're around this game, both playing

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on the industry side of things as well. You know

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what still fascinates you about poker?

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Speaker 2: For me, I can find storylines, not just from a

475
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,759
coverage standpoint. Just like if I'm walking around in every

476
00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:37,680
single event, it doesn't need I love it. Of course,

477
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,960
if it's Daniel Nigranu and Phil Hellmuth and Kristen Foxen Amriell,

478
00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:45,119
that's great, that's easy. But I can walk by still

479
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,720
a two hundred dollars daily deep stack and see that

480
00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:51,480
there are seven players left, and see that a couple

481
00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:54,359
players are treating it like it's the final table of

482
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,880
their World Series of Poker main event. That still stands

483
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,079
out to me, the passion for poker, or that's still

484
00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:04,400
that still hits me, because I think it still hits others.

485
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,519
It's it's funny. I'm walking Bill. I'm watching Bill Klein

486
00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:10,240
walk into this room right now and twenty five kids

487
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:12,400
up Championship sure like it's a high by in for poker,

488
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,440
right doesn't doesn't really move the needle for Bill Klein.

489
00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:16,920
And if he won the whole thing, not going to

490
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,279
move the needle for Bill Klin, but he's here. He's

491
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here because he wants to compete. And I love how

492
00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:25,359
that competition is just drawn out of everybody, from the

493
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,880
Jesse Lonises of the world to the Bill Kleines, to

494
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:32,279
the to the Colby Covingtons of the world. You know,

495
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you see our athletes come in and like they're so

496
00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:38,319
enthused by poker and they're just it just brings the

497
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,359
competitive spirit out of everybody. And that's just something that

498
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I love about this game and we'll always love.

499
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Speaker 1: A question that I've been trying to ask every single

500
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person that I have on the podcast is that you know,

501
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:53,200
what does a successful summer look like for you personally?

502
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:55,200
Now I know that maybe you don't take the same

503
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,519
angle as as a player might respond to that question,

504
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but what.

505
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Speaker 3: Does the successful summer look like for Jeff play?

506
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,759
Speaker 2: It's nice I don't have to set any like bracelet

507
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:02,880
goals or tournament results.

508
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to win three.

509
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 2: That kind of takes the pressure off. I think successful

510
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,960
summer for me, it's going to sound simple, but it's

511
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,440
perhaps more complicated than it sounds. I want to end

512
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,160
the summer in a better position than we started off.

513
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Just want to get better, just want to improve. I

514
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,359
know we're not going to be at one hundred percent capacity,

515
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,319
so to speak, and perfect on day one or two,

516
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,519
and we probably won't be perfect throughout six weeks, and

517
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:27,599
I don't expect to be. But I just want to

518
00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:32,759
get better and better. I want to improve our process

519
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,279
because you know this as a poker player. If you

520
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,960
improve the process, the results are going to come eventually.

521
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,160
They might not come right off the bat. I just

522
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,920
want to improve the process. I just want to get

523
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,119
a little better. I know it's cliche, but it is

524
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,960
going to help us in the long run if we

525
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:49,079
do get a little better each and every day.

526
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Speaker 1: When it all settles down, you know, the dust settles.

527
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,920
Let's say it's September. You know what do you want

528
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,440
people to talk about when they look back on the

529
00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:00,079
twenty twenty six WSP Is it the set? Is it

530
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,640
something that's possibly to come?

531
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Speaker 3: You know, what is that in your mind?

532
00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: I want them to talk about this, this set, this arena.

533
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,039
I want them to talk about our new and improved

534
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,960
comprehensive livestream coverage where we're just all over the map,

535
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,279
where we're taking you inside the world Series of Poker,

536
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:18,039
and I want them to look back on a record

537
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,400
setting World Series of Poker Main Event that is back

538
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,720
on ESPN, that did really well with our three week

539
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:27,759
delay in between reaching the final table and actually showcasing

540
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:30,799
the Final table live the storylines that we were able

541
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:35,000
to develop. I want people to see the investment that

542
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:38,480
the World Series is putting into this and think, you

543
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:42,920
know what that all of this pretty cool, pretty good summer,

544
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,319
pretty memorable summer.

545
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: All the main Event.

546
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:48,559
Speaker 1: You know, I'm bullish, I think, Sam, you know, I

547
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:50,519
think it's going to get back up over ten thousand.

548
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,960
Now does that mean record setter? I don't know, but

549
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,160
hearing you say it, is that a motivation of the company.

550
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,599
Is that why you're saying that, because it's in the room,

551
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,279
in the back room, you guys are saying we want

552
00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:03,920
a record setter.

553
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:06,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's always the motivation of the company.

554
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:09,359
Everybody looks at the World Series of Poker Main Event. Now,

555
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,599
does that mean if we got nine, nine hundred and

556
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,880
ninety two players, Even if you.

557
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,839
Speaker 1: Guys got eight thousand, it's still eight k in a

558
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,799
ten k free zee.

559
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: It's it's still just mind boggling to think about right

560
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,440
when you compare it to all the other attendance numbers.

561
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,680
But sure, we'd like to set a record. Listen, Gigi

562
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:27,640
Poker sends more and more people to the main event

563
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,920
every single year. Poker is is growing. I mean, we're

564
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,599
seeing more and more people become interested in poker. Whether

565
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,079
that results in more main event entries, I don't know.

566
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,119
But we are back on ESPN. That is going to

567
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000
have some kind of a lure to some people. The set,

568
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,799
the stage that's gonna have, the grand arena, excuse me,

569
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,359
that's gonna have some kind of a lure to some people.

570
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:54,160
And I think when you combine everything that you are

571
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,359
just going to be in for a record setting main event.

572
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,039
What I appreciate about the World Series is like we

573
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,640
always what I just said, we just always try to

574
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,119
get better.

575
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 3: You know.

576
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: It's like I think Nicks. I think it was Nick

577
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,680
Saban after he wins a national championship. He has one

578
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,200
glass of champagne on the plane, but that plane is

579
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,640
on a recruiting trip, and you know he's just thinking

580
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,400
about the next year. And that's kind of our model,

581
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,359
Like just Okay, this was awesome, let's celebrate it, just

582
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,039
for a little bit though, and then let's get back

583
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,759
to work and how do we make the next one better?

584
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,359
I was going to say, how could there be a

585
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,359
huge cheer here in this room at noon?

586
00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:32,279
Speaker 1: Because it's the World Series of Poker and it's Arsenal

587
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,079
versus PSG, which it looks like PSG.

588
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,559
Speaker 3: Just won the Champions League.

589
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: Our COO, Greg SHOs shown is French. His PSG is

590
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:41,240
the French one.

591
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,079
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I mean there's obviously many French teams, right No,

592
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,839
I think he might hate PSG specific. So I think

593
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:51,240
that's all I got for you. But did I miss anything?

594
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,880
Is there anything you want to say talk about?

595
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: I really don't think so. I think you know, an

596
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,680
important note that I would want to get out there

597
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:01,559
is that we're going for this every day. So everyday

598
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:03,279
World Tires of Poker Countdown is going to be on

599
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,039
and it's going to lead into our livestream coverage it

600
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:09,319
if you get sick, I think we're stuck with STAPs

601
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:12,200
in the hosting chair or something like that. So the

602
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,960
show goes on whether I'm here or not. It does

603
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,319
not rely on any one person, and we're just we're

604
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,319
just really excited to see how it all plays out,

605
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,839
and like I told you earlier, you know, I want

606
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,039
the feedback, the constructive criticism, not just from you, but

607
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:32,279
but from all of your listeners, all of your viewers.

608
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:36,039
Just hit me up on social media and we're accepting everything.

609
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:38,440
If you just say, Jeff, you suck, that doesn't help

610
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:39,000
us that much.

611
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: We would, we would, it should be you suck. Here's why.

612
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,119
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly, that is exactly what I'm talking about.

613
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,920
So that's what I want to get out and I

614
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,960
always appreciate it and enjoy the time with you.

615
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,079
Speaker 1: All right, man, Well he's Jeff Platt on Twitter, so

616
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:53,640
that's where you guys can can hit him up there.

617
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,000
He is responding to I think.

618
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,799
Speaker 2: Every single try gets a little Sometimes I even look

619
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:59,359
at it and I'm like, ah, why'd you even respond

620
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,079
to that one? At the point, can I give you

621
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,319
a little tease, Yeah, just because I see Seande walking up,

622
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,440
I have a surprise for him week one of the

623
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,200
World Series that could like Joker viral.

624
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,279
Speaker 4: No no, no, I'm not gonna hij I just got to

625
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,519
come say hi, hello, my friend, love the set, thank you,

626
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:21,200
The morning show going.

627
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,519
Speaker 2: It's it's called WSP Countdown. Let's show some respect, going, well,

628
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,000
it's not the countdown, it's just WSOP countdown, Mark somewhere else,

629
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,240
probably probably, So.

630
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm just making sure my producer, producer Rich, shout out

631
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:35,880
producer Rich.

632
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,079
Speaker 3: He'll yell at me if I didn't do this.

633
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: So, yeah, thank you for asking, Sean. It's fantastic. I

634
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440
was just telling Donnie that I have a surprise coming

635
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,640
your way at some point in I think week one

636
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,319
of the WSP, maybe early week two, and it could.

637
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,000
It has the potential to go I wouldn't say viral,

638
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,400
but like a poker viral, like maybe we get twenty

639
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,440
two reposts in three hundred likes on it.

640
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: I think I'll have three hundred and thirty three likes.

641
00:29:58,519 --> 00:29:59,279
It's just what I think.

642
00:29:59,279 --> 00:29:59,559
Speaker 3: It is.

643
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh, interesting, interesting working. I had no comment at this time.

644
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,720
I don't want to review.

645
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: Any no comment at this time. I like it.

646
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,359
Speaker 2: Though. It's better than whatever Tim Duckworth has planned. You know,

647
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,519
it's got to be at least that.

648
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:15,319
Speaker 4: I give him a lot of credit. Man, he's really

649
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,240
growing up in his role. Over the years, has.

650
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,079
Speaker 3: He highly questionable? Sean? Highly questionable?

651
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,079
Speaker 4: Remember how low the bar was to start?

652
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,559
Speaker 3: That's true.

653
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:23,319
Speaker 2: That's a great point.

654
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: I mean pants yesterday. Yeah, I never seen him wear

655
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:27,359
it is.

656
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,279
Speaker 1: It's it's much colder on this side of things than

657
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,920
it is on the horseshoes side of things.

658
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: At the Showdown, you know, I'm going to stay called

659
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,559
the Showdown.

660
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,839
Speaker 2: The Countdown, w SP countdown. Maybe moving back to the

661
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,279
morning they got they got a logo and everything. I mean,

662
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,440
give it a night show that could be the showdown

663
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,319
on the showdown. Yeah, you should have been in our

664
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:49,279
earlier conversation.

665
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,519
Speaker 4: I know I should be in these production meetings actually

666
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:52,559
show you guys how to do things.

667
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: But we're gonna up here. He's got to get it.

668
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: The pleasure Sean Deep as always, it's a pleasure pleasures

669
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,480
on flat. My mic is all screwed up now, as

670
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,440
if it wasn't already. But all right, this has been

671
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,759
the Poker Girl Podcast, a little special edition here with

672
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,759
Jeff Platmin name is Dona Pears and we will catch

673
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:13,319
you guys next time.

674
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Speaker 2: Express