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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Handles show Wayne Resinik here and some of the stories

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<v Speaker 2>we're following for you. President Biden announced yesterday six hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twelve million dollars in funding to improve the energy

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<v Speaker 2>grid in areas impacted by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hurricanes Milton and Helene.

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<v Speaker 2>There are, at last count from Amy King in the

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<v Speaker 2>New Center, like four hundred thousand ish people still without

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<v Speaker 2>power after Milton. But those two storms combined knocked out

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<v Speaker 2>power for more than eight million people according to FEMA,

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<v Speaker 2>and the latest CNN poll of national polling finds no

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<v Speaker 2>clear leader in the presidential race. In this particular poll,

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<v Speaker 2>likely voters fifty percent support Kamala Harris forty seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>support Donald Trump. That is within the margin of error,

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<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't really mean it. That's a deadline, including

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<v Speaker 2>in some key battleground states like your Wisconsin and your Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>your Pennsylvania. Okay, roll up your sleeves, everybody, because we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a battle here in the state of California. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's a grudge match, but they're definitely

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<v Speaker 2>in the octagon. The California Energy Commission versus the California

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<v Speaker 2>Air Resource Board first up, getting all the headlines right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the California Energy Commission indirectly, you'll see how they figure

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<v Speaker 2>into this in a moment. The legislature has passed a law,

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<v Speaker 2>a law that Governor Newsom wanted and that he is

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<v Speaker 2>expected to sign as early as today. And you may

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<v Speaker 2>recall Governor Newsom coming out and talking about these spikes

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<v Speaker 2>in gas prices when, for example, a refinery is taken

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<v Speaker 2>out of commission for maintenance, and that when that happens,

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<v Speaker 2>the supply of gas drops and the gas that's already

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<v Speaker 2>out there becomes more valuable, and you see a big

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<v Speaker 2>price bike it.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want that to happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So he wants the oil companies to be required to

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<v Speaker 2>maintain reserves at all times, to keep the supply of

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<v Speaker 2>gas relatively even even when they shut down refineries, even

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<v Speaker 2>if a refinery unexpectedly goes down for some emergency maintenance.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the idea behind it. It's not a super

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<v Speaker 2>specific plan, what the parameters are, how big of a

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<v Speaker 2>stockpile must they maintain, what happens if they don't, It's

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<v Speaker 2>not but it's the basic idea and The reason it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a specific plan in the law is because the

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<v Speaker 2>law leaves it to the California Energy Commission to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out the details. Now, some economists say this is a

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<v Speaker 2>good idea, and they will point to Japan, Australia as

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<v Speaker 2>companies countries that already do something like this with their

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<v Speaker 2>gas industries, or maybe it's petrol, depending on where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>But other economists even say that this might not have

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<v Speaker 2>the intended consequence and that it could in fact backfire

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<v Speaker 2>and end up with higher gas prices, even though that's

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<v Speaker 2>not the intent. It is so controversial that in California

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<v Speaker 2>with a Democratic supermajority, this thing didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get by as definitively as it could.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually had a number of Democrats who either voted

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<v Speaker 2>against it or abstained or did not come to the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans obviously don't like it. The oil industry of course

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<v Speaker 2>hates it, and they say, first of all, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough storage to do this idea, and then some

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<v Speaker 2>experts say, well, yes you do, and that's a big

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<v Speaker 2>finger pointing about can the oil company even do what

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<v Speaker 2>Newsom wants them to do. Also buried in there is

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<v Speaker 2>the idea, you know, how with carbon with pollution and

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<v Speaker 2>you can either lower your pollution or you can continue

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<v Speaker 2>to pollute and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can buy carbon credits.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's something similar here with the storing of the

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<v Speaker 2>oil in the gasoline that if you're a refiner and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have enough storage in your tanks, you could

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<v Speaker 2>buy storage credits from other refiners who have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of capacity. It's crazy, and it gets crazier because while

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on, this law being passed, the California Energy

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<v Speaker 2>Commission would be able to come up with a plan

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<v Speaker 2>to tell oil companies that they have to keep a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of gasoline and oil on hand so that the

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<v Speaker 2>supply doesn't fluctuate so much. At the same time, the

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<v Speaker 2>California Air Resource Board, they're the pollution people, is going

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<v Speaker 2>to vote apparently after the election, they are gonna vote

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<v Speaker 2>for new stricter pollution standards for the gasoline in California.

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<v Speaker 2>And earlier in this process they estimated that it would

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<v Speaker 2>raise the price of a gallon of gas forty seven

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<v Speaker 2>cents a gallon. Then there was a separate Independence study

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<v Speaker 2>that concluded that these new stricter pollution standards for gas

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<v Speaker 2>would raise the price of a gallon of gas sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five cents a gallon. And now if you ask the

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<v Speaker 2>California Air Resources Board, hey, how much will these new

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<v Speaker 2>standards raise the price of a gallon of gas? They

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<v Speaker 2>now say, oh, it's impossible to know. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>literally true. On one track is legislation that is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to lower the price of gasoline, and on the on

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<v Speaker 2>another track, simultaneously is a regulation coming that will raise

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<v Speaker 2>the price of a gallon of gas.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe at best.

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<v Speaker 2>These two things would cancel each other out, or we

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<v Speaker 2>could end up with permanently higher gas prices here in California.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing about it is Newsom appoints the people

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<v Speaker 2>on both of these entities, so he should have something

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<v Speaker 2>to say. And if he's really really concerned about the

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<v Speaker 2>price of gas, he should probably be putting pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>the California Air Resources Board to not do this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we already have special blends of gas to lower the

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<v Speaker 2>pollution from our gasoline compared to the rest of the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's going on. And if it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>sense to you, you want to know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about this super special LA Sheriff's Department police unit.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a big hearing on Friday. The Civilian Oversight

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<v Speaker 2>Commission that oversees the Sheriff's department got to get testimony

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<v Speaker 2>from two former members of this secret unit, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I should say secretive. It's not that nobody knew it existed,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that nobody outside of it knew everything they were

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<v Speaker 2>up to. It's the civil rights and public integrity detail,

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<v Speaker 2>and ostensibly their job was to investigate corruption, particularly at

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<v Speaker 2>the highest levels of county government. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a unit like this is not in and

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<v Speaker 2>of itself unusual or suspicious. The US Attorney's Office has

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<v Speaker 2>a public integrity unit. They prosecute, Oh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>congress people who take bribes, or mayors who take bribes,

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<v Speaker 2>or well, it's basically taking bribes is pretty much what

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<v Speaker 2>is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So this unit, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Is very interesting, and we got some information about it

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<v Speaker 2>from the testimony of a guy, Sergeant Max Fernandez, and

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<v Speaker 2>a former homicide detective named Mark Lillienfeld. First thing interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody was ever sure at any time how many members

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<v Speaker 2>were on this unit. The former homicide detective said anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>from two to ten depending on when you were looking,

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<v Speaker 2>and on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>These officers were not assigned to the unit.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't get a directory of the Sheriff's Department and

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<v Speaker 2>it said, oh, the Civil Rights and Public Integrity Detail,

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<v Speaker 2>and here's who's on it. They on paper, were all

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<v Speaker 2>on assignments, scattered all over the county. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>people was on paper a patrol person up and I

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<v Speaker 2>think in the Atlanta Analope.

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<v Speaker 1>Valley like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thing about it that's controversial not that it exists,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe not that the members of it were on

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<v Speaker 2>paper assigned to other duties. It's that they went after

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<v Speaker 2>some people in a way that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>thought was political, not legitimately law enforcement. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the interesting aspects of this is that over a period

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<v Speaker 2>of time that they're looking at, there were maybe fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five or sixty cases that this unit investigated. So these

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<v Speaker 2>would theoretically all be cases of some kind of public corruption.

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<v Speaker 1>But the only cases that they.

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<v Speaker 2>Announced and talked about publicly involved people who were in

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<v Speaker 2>essence enemies of then Sheriff via Nueva, like Patty Giggins,

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<v Speaker 2>who's on this Civilian Oversight Commission and also runs a charity.

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<v Speaker 2>And if my memory is serving me about that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>She has this a charitable organization called Peace Over Violence,

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<v Speaker 2>and they got a contract from the county to run

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<v Speaker 2>a hotline, I think some kind of a hotline, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Sheriff's department said, we are investigating this to see

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<v Speaker 2>if there is some if this was a favor. She

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<v Speaker 2>was given the contract to run this hotline by the

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<v Speaker 2>county as a favor because she supported county Supervisor Sheila

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<v Speaker 2>Cule a quid pro quote, if you will, That was

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<v Speaker 2>one of them. They also investigated Chili Cule, who is

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who you know who was not a huge fan

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<v Speaker 2>of Villanueva, former CEO of La County, the General inspector

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<v Speaker 2>or actually the Inspector General, Max Huntsman, who we know

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<v Speaker 2>butt heads with Villanueva all the time, and an La

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<v Speaker 2>Times reporter and if you remember that case, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a list of problem deputies that got leaked and it

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<v Speaker 2>got to the hands of the press and it was

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<v Speaker 2>published and then they started investigating these reporters for stolen property.

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<v Speaker 1>But those cases were never prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the idea here is, was this a legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>public integrity law enforcement department or squad as part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sheriff's department and it just so happened, and that

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that they investigated involved people who

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<v Speaker 2>were not big fans of the sheriff. Or was that

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<v Speaker 2>unit used as a kind of a personal vengeance squad

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of then sheriff of Villanueva. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that that question is has been answered by their testimony,

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<v Speaker 2>but we got a little bit of insight into how

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<v Speaker 2>it operated and that and that it was not as

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<v Speaker 2>not as transparent as we might like, particularly from from

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement in general, and particularly from an arm of

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement that they that that says, we're here to

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<v Speaker 2>investigate shadiness and corruption, and we'll see if there's any

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<v Speaker 2>more hearings and anymore dirt comes out. A man was

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<v Speaker 2>arrested near the Donald Trump rally at Coachella over the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend after his vehicle was stopped. It was actually a checkpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>so all the vehicles were being stopped, and this gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>stood out because he was driving a black SUV unregistered

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<v Speaker 2>with fake license plates, but not fake license plates that

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<v Speaker 2>look like real license plates, sovereign plates plates indicating that

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<v Speaker 2>the driver considers themselves a sovereign citizen not subject to

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<v Speaker 2>the jurisdiction of the United States. Also, the interior was

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<v Speaker 2>in disarray, and based on that, they searched it and

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<v Speaker 2>they found in the trunk a shotgun, a handgun, a

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<v Speaker 2>high capacity magazine. They apparently found numerous driver's licenses and

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<v Speaker 2>passports in fake identities. He said he was a journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had no proof that he was a journalist

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<v Speaker 2>working for any known journalistic entity in any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was arrested on.

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<v Speaker 2>Suspicion of having a loaded handgun and possession of a

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<v Speaker 2>high capacity magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>They are illegal in California. No no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but them.

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<v Speaker 2>Miller, which is his name, was released on five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars bail yesterday, so he was only there overnight, and

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff's office in Riverside said that at no time

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<v Speaker 2>were any of the people at the rally or former

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump in danger. And he also said the sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>of Riverside County that they had probably stopped an assassination attempt. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like those two statements can't live together, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were both. Lets you know that Jurius guy or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's a threat. Now the Feds are probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a look and see if they can figure

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<v Speaker 2>out if he was up to no good. But he

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<v Speaker 2>risk of upsetting any sovereign citizens listening now. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>special message for you sovereign citizens. Yes, yes, the fringe

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<v Speaker 2>on the flag is definitely a big deal sovereign citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I saw a lot of them in tax evasion

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<v Speaker 2>cases that I worked on, because you would get sovereign

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<v Speaker 2>citizens who say, and you've probably heard people tell you this,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to pay taxes. It's actually voluntary, another gobbledegook,

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<v Speaker 2>And so they would not pay their taxes, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to pay taxes and it's voluntary. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you something that federal judges.

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<v Speaker 1>Hate that they hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the most liberal and lenient of judges would slam

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<v Speaker 2>hard somebody on a tax evasion case saying I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>of getting leniency than if you come in with this

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<v Speaker 2>sovereign citizen stuff that this guy did. There's also another

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<v Speaker 2>interesting wrinkle with them Miller, the man caught with the

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<v Speaker 2>guns outside the Trump rally. There's a photo circulating now

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<v Speaker 2>of them Miller with former presidential candidate Vivic Ramaswami, and

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<v Speaker 2>now Ramaswami is getting heat because he's in a picture

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<v Speaker 2>with this guy. And this guy was a rested outside

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump rally with guns, and it looks like he's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some kind of a kook. My opinion, this is,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, a constitutionally protected, pure opinion. I'm certainly

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<v Speaker 2>not implying that I'm making a medical diagnosis or that

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<v Speaker 2>I have any special information about him that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>telling you, because I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think we should not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much when you start holding people

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<v Speaker 2>accountable for old pictures with somebody who later turns out

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<v Speaker 2>to be a problem. All right, Elon Musk would like

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<v Speaker 2>to launch more rockets from the coast of California. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the only one that wants him to launch

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<v Speaker 2>these rockets. The US military, in the form of Space

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<v Speaker 2>Force and the Air Force, would like Elon Musk to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to launch more rockets off the coast of California.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we get into what the controversy, I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to say it's nice to have a story where

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<v Speaker 2>Space Force is prominently featured, because you really don't hear

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<v Speaker 2>about Space Force enough, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're a big part of this story.

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<v Speaker 2>So SpaceX has contracts with Space Force and the Air

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<v Speaker 2>Force and probably with other arms of the military as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the things involves launching rockets off the

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<v Speaker 2>coast of California. But also SpaceX will launch rockets for

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<v Speaker 2>a private business. So there's been a problem with these

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<v Speaker 2>rocket launches. The rocket launches have sometimes caused big sonic

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<v Speaker 2>booms that go on over about one hundred mile distance,

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<v Speaker 2>and they screw up wildlife. They scare the animals, they

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<v Speaker 2>bother people, and there are also some I guess pollution

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<v Speaker 2>concerns about these rocket launches. So the California Coastal Commission

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<v Speaker 2>has been working with the military, with Space Force and

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force on a to mitigate some of these problems

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<v Speaker 2>when these rockets are launched. And there was a hearing

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<v Speaker 2>and the California Coastal Commission people said, hey, Space Force,

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<v Speaker 2>you're cool man. You've worked with us, You've agreed to

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<v Speaker 2>certain plans to make these rocket launches better and not

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<v Speaker 2>as disturbing to the environment, and you're awesome and we

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<v Speaker 2>love you. And also Air Force come here, you get

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<v Speaker 2>some love too, because we're all working together on these

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<v Speaker 2>plans to mitigate the stuff. And then they turned their

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<v Speaker 2>attention to Elon Musk and they said, but you, you

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<v Speaker 2>we don't like, so you we have a problem with.

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<v Speaker 2>And even though we just praised the heck at a

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<v Speaker 2>Space Force and the Air Force, now we're saying we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to let you increase the number of your

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, sorry, sorry, sorry, Why what did I do?

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine him thinking, well, the first thing that the

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<v Speaker 2>Coastal Commission said is these rocket launches do cause problems,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, your friends in the military have some plan

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<v Speaker 2>to try to help, but they still cause problems. And

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of what you're doing is private. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're sending up starlink equipment. There's an estimate that over

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five percent of these rocket flights are carrying private

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<v Speaker 2>starlink equipment. And that's private activity. And that's why you

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<v Speaker 2>got to get permission from the coastal agency. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to get permission if you are the military. If

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<v Speaker 2>Space Force wants to launch a rocket, they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to ask nobody. They can just go launch it.

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<v Speaker 2>They try to work with the California Coastal Commission and

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<v Speaker 2>be cooperative, but they don't need their permission, but Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk and SpaceX needs permission for anything that's private. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit of vagary going on about when

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<v Speaker 2>is it private and when is it not private? And

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<v Speaker 2>SpaceX would like the conclude to be that every rocket

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<v Speaker 2>we send.

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<v Speaker 1>Up is military business. Even if it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A rocket and it's just got starlink equipment on it,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these launches are still of value to the military,

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<v Speaker 2>so they should be treated as military activity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't need your permission and Spaceford.

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<v Speaker 2>An interpretation that's good with us, But the California Coastal

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<v Speaker 2>Commission is not buying that part of it. So here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing you could understand, perhaps if the members of

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<v Speaker 2>the California Coastal Commission, I don't know how many more

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<v Speaker 2>times are the last time you launched a rocket it

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<v Speaker 2>went haywire, and we f procedures for these rockets, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could at least understand there's a relevant discussion about

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<v Speaker 2>the launching of the rockets and the harm that it

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<v Speaker 2>might or might not be doing to the coast, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the entire point of the CCC. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to call them the CCC. Now that's not the band.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of the comments had to do with

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<v Speaker 2>political concerns. Some of the commissioners specifically said. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>the chair of the CCC, Carol Hart, said, we're dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected

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<v Speaker 2>himself into the presidential race. That's probably true and fair

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<v Speaker 2>to say, but I don't know if it's relevant to

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<v Speaker 2>whether they should be allowed to launch their.

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<v Speaker 1>Rockets or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Commissioner Mike Wilson said, this company is owned by the

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<v Speaker 2>richest person in the world, with direct control of what

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<v Speaker 2>could be the most expansive communication system in the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Just last week, that person, Elon Musk, was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>political retribution. Gretchen Newsom, Yes, yes you are, bells are

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<v Speaker 2>ringing correctly, also a commissioner on the Coastal Commission. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk is hopping around the country spewing and tweeting

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<v Speaker 2>political falsehoods and attacking FEMA while claiming his desire to

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<v Speaker 2>help hurricane victims with free star Link access to the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's pretty clear that a big part of their

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<v Speaker 2>thinking is they don't like Elon Musk politically.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like him personally.

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<v Speaker 2>They think that he's getting too busy and involved in politics,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I would imagine they think he's some kind

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the deal, Like, Okay, you might agree with them,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with them, But what if what if it

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<v Speaker 2>was somebody we like. I'm talking only to the people

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<v Speaker 2>who don't like Elon Musk, obviously, what if it was

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<v Speaker 2>somebody we do like who had a company but also

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<v Speaker 2>was involved in talking about politics and so forth, and

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to do something, and the people on the

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<v Speaker 2>commission said, we don't like your brand of a political engagement,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're not gonna let you pursue the business of

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<v Speaker 2>your company. We'd be upset and say it wasn't fair.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think, yeah, you know, you got you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta recognize that just because the same thing's happening to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody you don't support doesn't make it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And they rejected the agreement from the military agencies to

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<v Speaker 2>mitigate the issues with the rocket launches by six to

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<v Speaker 2>four vote, and I guess at this time they're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let SpaceX launch all the rockets that they would

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