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The for the people. 13 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:39.200 Somehow these two yay who's convinced me to come on 14 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:42.359 here even though they both turned me down to come 15 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:43.359 to Texas Tech. 16 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.759 And we can't let that happen. We just can't let 17 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:49.119 that happen on this podcast because we are for the people. 18 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.079 At the end of the day. The guy's a hell 19 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:54.960 of a player beyond nails. 20 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:00.280 That is the hardest part three of the pjjorgan It's 21 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:05.719 a hybrid three iron or four iron. Every day it's. 22 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:08.640 For the people. You're the last group off off a 23 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:11.200 split t horseshoe on number ten and you do a 24 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:12.920 happy gill more. What the hell's wrong with that? 25 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:16.959 All right? Well, we have Greg Sands on FDP. Today's 26 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:21.280 co host co host season over here. Greg Sands probably 27 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:24.120 one of the best Division one golf coaches to ever 28 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:27.640 do it. Hall of famer. He's got fort worthrees, He's 29 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.959 now in Lubbock, does not want to leave obviously, just 30 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:33.760 signed a seven year deal extension over there in Lubbock, 31 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:38.959 has the number one, two, three, four something like that 32 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.640 team in the country right now. But he joins us 33 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.280 on FTP, making his FTP debut. Coach Sands, Hey, good Peter, 34 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:46.040 how are you doing man? 35 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:47.599 Thanks for having me on. 36 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.159 Was any of that accurate? Was any of that accurate 37 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:50.799 that he just said? 38 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.040 Yeah, he covered his bases one through four actually not 39 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:57.799 Fort Worth, but I obviously went to school there, but 40 00:01:58.040 --> 00:01:59.719 damn it, I'm going to see, you know, East Texas 41 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.799 guy and been seven years before, so we'll give him 42 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.879 credit for that. But ununderstandable, that's where I recruited him. 43 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:07.319 So that's where he remembers me from. 44 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.199 Yeah, yeah, that's true. That was That was you know, 45 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:11.360 I would have been a Texas Tech. 46 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:11.759 I would have. 47 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.360 I would have if the hotel room that we were 48 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:20.240 staying in on my official visit was not covered in roaches. Dude, 49 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.639 my mom. My mom couldn't handle it. She was like, 50 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.159 all right, you know one roach is fine. Twelve twelve 51 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:28.439 Uh huh, you're not. You're not going to Texas Tech. 52 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.680 I was like, that's not your decision, but I appreciate that. 53 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:33.960 All right, we're going to blame that on Marty McCauley. 54 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.400 But because he told me it was done, you verbally committed, 55 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:37.599 and I was like, what the heck? 56 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:39.159 Yeah, I was going. 57 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:42.319 I hope it was an unofficial visit because if we 58 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.800 were in control of that that hotel, then that's that's 59 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:45.400 on us. 60 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:46.400 I don't remember. 61 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:50.719 Actually, oh man, Pete still loves Texas Tech. PD cheers 62 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:52.719 for Tech against TCU every single time. 63 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:53.840 Like that's true. 64 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.080 I know they're not his one because he's an LSU. 65 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:59.919 I mean, just freaking blinded by the LSU sec buy. 66 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.360 But like they're a they're a firm number two, like well, 67 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.199 well on a pedestal number two, which is which is good? 68 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.520 He love he loved it was, well you were beatasy, 69 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.000 so younger Ralls was there like when I when I 70 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:16.240 was in high school. Was true, there was no that 71 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:19.520 was a big deal man hidden hidden uh kidden Slingers 72 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:21.520 at meadow Brook was just that was a tough way 73 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.240 to That was a tough way to do it. 74 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:27.560 Meadow Brook was that was a cowpad. He wasn't man. 75 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:30.000 We had regionals. We had regionals at meadow Brook my 76 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.120 freshman year at Paschal and I remember Franklin Corporating was playing. 77 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.000 We had a bunch of good guys on our team, 78 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.879 but I was I asked coach. I tried with Tramps 79 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:41.599 Wilson was my coach pa I was like, Travis, is 80 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:43.639 this where tech plays? He's like yeah, but they have 81 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.319 this badass place opening up down the road and sure Ship, 82 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:48.800 like two years later the Raws Courts opened up and 83 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.919 they moved regionals to there. But that was back when y'all. 84 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:53.680 Y'all didn't even have a clubhouse. It was in a trailer, 85 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.639 like we were. We were eating in a trailer for 86 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.840 years that that trailer was was there for what ten? 87 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.039 Yeah? I was there from o Ford and like twenty 88 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.599 ten we were in that that triple wide. We spent 89 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.639 all of our money on the golf course and had 90 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:12.520 to reload for the reloading for the clubhouse. But yeah, 91 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.960 it was They had had some great food there. I 92 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.279 think the food was better in the ould triple wide. 93 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:18.959 Something was in the grease out there. It was great. 94 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:22.639 So now you'll have a sick facility, though, you'll have 95 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:25.600 a I mean, just like everyone that contends for national 96 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.399 championships and men's golf. I mean, you see these facilities 97 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.519 these kids practice at nowadays, and they're they're better than 98 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.600 country clubs, a lot of them. So when did that 99 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.519 get built? And like how big is it? What have 100 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:37.240 you gotten there? 101 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:39.279 Yeah, we've kind of, you know, keep we keep adding 102 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:40.759 on a little bit here and there. Like I said, 103 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.160 the course was four and then then we got the 104 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:45.959 clubhouse and team facility, which is two separate buildings of 105 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.319 twenty ten and that's when the short game area was here. 106 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.480 But we've done some renovations to that and then we 107 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:55.079 just got finished with renovating our driving range and and 108 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.800 doing a few things there. So yeah, I just kind 109 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.199 of try to keep keeping up with the Jones and 110 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.959 so to speak. It's a lot of great facilities out there, 111 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:07.480 and and I feel like we probably need to do 112 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.439 a few more things, to be honest, but the golf 113 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.279 course has been great for us. I mean, obviously we 114 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.040 we get to have the shore game area have a 115 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.639 lot of development there, and then just having a place 116 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:21.480 that we can get on whenever we want to is gold. 117 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.040 So yeah, that's good, King Collins. The architects of the 118 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:27.319 Red Feather, they kind of, you guys, revamped the driving 119 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:29.639 range a little bit too, target area and stuff like that. 120 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.839 So they few new targets and it's it's awesome, man. 121 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:35.439 You guys have you guys have a good setup. It 122 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:37.639 seems like they redid the practice area too, like in 123 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.360 the last year or so, right, right, So. 124 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:43.360 Yeah, we built a new putting green, a really big 125 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:45.879 putting green that you do a lot of chipping, elevated pitches. 126 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.160 And then, like you said, King Collins, uh reshaped part 127 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.319 of half of our driving range with is ours and 128 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.199 this is a really cool feature, six or seven greens. 129 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.759 They tilted some of it back towards the front of 130 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.199 the range and then also added a south team if 131 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.360 we want to hit from a north wind, which comes 132 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.079 in handy on some of the cooler days where we 133 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.000 get a north wind. So that's been it's been great. 134 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.480 We have a few hitting bays there too if we 135 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.519 need to get out of the elements. But yeah, it's been. 136 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.279 It's been. Uh you know really it's the one thing 137 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.480 that's probably got our program from a top thirty program 138 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.199 to be even better. So you have to give a 139 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.279 lot of credit to Jerry Rawls and a lot of 140 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.000 the donors who have bought into helping us keep moving 141 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.079 this thing forward. Clay Cash has been as you got 142 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.319 to say, nails on h Yeah. Him, he's been an 143 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:38.360 incredible benefactor. After we built this golf course, he's he's 144 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.800 continued to contribute, not only helping out with the agga 145 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.480 that we have out here and getting some young talent 146 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.560 out here so they can see see the golf course. 147 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:51.480 And so yeah, we kind of parlayed everything into successful program. 148 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:56.319 Do you think that a facility like y'all's when you 149 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.519 bring a recruit in and they see, I don't know 150 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:02.040 how big it's got to be three four or five 151 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.000 six thousand square feet where it's just the guys. I 152 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:07.720 don't know if they have their own keys or a 153 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.639 touchscreen or a thumbprint that they get in, but they 154 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.759 feel like it's theirs that they can go and not 155 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:17.160 be bothered by anyone. They can practice, do their homework, hangout, 156 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:19.160 do whatever they want. They have a place to go. 157 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:22.279 Like how important to recruiting is something like that for 158 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.800 these high school kids coming in to look at Texas Tech. 159 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.480 Yeah, it's huge. I mean I feel like that Texas 160 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:31.759 Tech is and the administration Athletic administration has been great 161 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.319 to to, you know, help us make it feel like 162 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.560 this is ours. I mean, guys can go go do 163 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:40.199 their workout in the morning and show up in their 164 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.879 workout shorts and T shirt, go in our short game 165 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:44.879 area and not feel like they've got to you know, 166 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:48.240 go put on collared shirt and things that you need 167 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:51.959 to do at nice places, and you know, just that 168 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.279 feeling alone coming in here. They can do some study 169 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.279 and they can go back out. And I remember back 170 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.000 when I first started coaching, I remember kind of stuck 171 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.120 in my mind when I went to Oklahoma State Facility. 172 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:04.680 I was a camper there and helped out there, and 173 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:07.680 I saw some of those guys Chris Tidlin back in 174 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:09.319 the day and those guys that have their shirts off 175 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:12.439 hitting balls, getting the sun Tannage kinds stuck in my mind. 176 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:14.920 But you know, nothing says ownership when you just get 177 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:16.639 to strip the shirt off and hits the GoF wall 178 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.399 so right. You know, that's a big thing for these kids. 179 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.560 They want to they want to have access, you know, 180 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:23.000 they want to feel like they can go do the 181 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.000 do you and so many of these kids that they 182 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.000 want to practice four or five, six seven hours a 183 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.560 day and they can here, Yeah, they. 184 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:32.799 Can, they can do whatever that Kaleid, when's the last 185 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:34.600 time you practiced four or five six hours. 186 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.000 I was a practice. I was a big time practicer, 187 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.159 like when I was playing full time because I figured 188 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.200 like I would just practice my way out of sucking 189 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:44.919 when I wasn't playing good. But but now, dude, the 190 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.480 kids are so good now too. It's just the tech. 191 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:50.320 Like we've talked about it before on this like Forget 192 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:52.519 track Man and things like this. But there's there's certain 193 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.679 things you can look at when you're like playing well, 194 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.360 certain numbers and almost know what you have to get 195 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.240 back to. Obviously there's video and stuff like that and 196 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:02.039 you have to know how to or but like coach 197 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:04.759 Sands will tell you, like sixteen year olds an now 198 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:07.840 are better than they were fifteen twenty years ago whenever 199 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.159 like you got your start, they like they just are. 200 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:12.799 I remember when ty Tryon made the cut as like 201 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.120 a sixteen or seventeen year old in a PGA tour event, 202 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.519 and I think like Calloween Target paid him like ten 203 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.879 million dollars, Like it was the craziest shit anybody's ever 204 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.519 seen in their life. And now it's like people would 205 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.759 be like go back to go back to get your 206 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.000 driver's license, like nice to claim this week. But whatever, 207 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:30.480 It's like there's there's one hundred kids that could do 208 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:32.480 that if they got into it, into a tour event. 209 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.480 So it's changed. It's changed a lot. 210 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:34.639 Man. 211 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.360 Yeah, practice seven hours. I don't know, I could tell 212 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.080 I can I know you have probably never done that, Beaty. 213 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.759 Maybe maybe cumulutive addition for a whole week, you might 214 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.679 have practiced seven hours. I don't know, but that's that's 215 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.200 a lot. Coach, what do you guys, because you were 216 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:53.919 at you obviously you know, you were assistant at TCU, 217 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.600 then came over to Tech and it actually listened to 218 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.480 Montagel did a pod with Coach McGraw and Baylor. It's 219 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:01.159 pretty good. Monica was like send it to me. I 220 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:02.840 was like, oh, coach, you know how to attach a leak. 221 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.879 That's prettyous, man, that's awesome. So I listened to it. 222 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:07.200 It was it was really good. But he had talked 223 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.080 about you in there. He actually like my freshman year. Actually, 224 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:11.840 Alan Bratton was the assistant, so he had like a 225 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.600 nice little role really only for a semester. I didn't 226 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:17.840 know that he was in no man's land. He like 227 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.840 had no status playing anywhere. He's like, maybe I'll get 228 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:23.000 into coaching. He was doing Monday qualifiers. You know how 229 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:26.080 bad those suck? And yeah, he was my whole freshman year. 230 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.879 There was only six guys on the team, and so 231 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:30.759 I like I hung out with him every day, and 232 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.120 you know he's smarter whatever. But yeah, he had a 233 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.679 good he had a good little run. But so Montaguil 234 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:37.759 kind of like you said, he went to the Oklahoma 235 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.879 State camp because he's like, holders, Holder is the best 236 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.279 we're gonna go on. He does blah because he's a 237 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:44.279 basketball coach. He didn't know what he was doing. He's like, 238 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.519 what's qualifying it? Because we read five guys to a tournament, 239 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.320 blah blah blah. He had no idea, But it's you 240 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.480 know he was telling the whole story. He was like, 241 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:51.240 it was awesome. 242 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.279 Well he was genius. You know, he had Dana bel genius. Yeah, 243 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.120 and so I'll give him credit. You know, he found 244 00:10:58.159 --> 00:10:59.960 the places he needed some help, and he went down 245 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.759 the great people. I mean, he's had Johnson Johnson Claire 246 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.159 over the years helping those guys develop their metal game 247 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.240 different Dana Ballander. I mean, of course it helps being 248 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:11.039 in the metroplext with a lot of good, good resources. 249 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.320 But you got to give him credit. And I'm and 250 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:15.159 I'm one of them. I was just begging him to 251 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.200 get into profession. I was like, I just happened to 252 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:21.200 just played for him, very little played for him, and 253 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:22.919 just like, hey, I think I want to coach. That's 254 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:25.440 what I've always wanted to do. Can I shuffle some 255 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.559 papers and types of emails for you? Because he wasn't 256 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.799 proficient with that kind of stuff. He's like, yeah, sure, coach, 257 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:30.720 come on over here. 258 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:36.200 So dude, everybody's impressions of Bill Montague are all the same. 259 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:40.559 It's like when you in person, yeah they do, everyone 260 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.000 loves it. But when you impersonate somebody usually there's some 261 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.200 sort of variance there. But Everyone's like, oh yeah, Bill 262 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:48.919 talking like this. Everyone does it, everyone does the same ship. 263 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:50.840 It's like, yeah, that's exactly how he is. 264 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:51.399 It's so good. 265 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:53.639 But no, he is What a legend. What a legend 266 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:57.240 going out and going out in May? What's dude? I 267 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.840 wanted to know how big the NIL things are college golf? Right, 268 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.559 is there any nil stuff going on? I know these 269 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.000 kids have been getting equipment forever. I mean I got equipment, 270 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.679 Clean got equipment, but we'd never got any money. Like 271 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:10.799 you've got the best player in the world or one 272 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:11.039 of them? 273 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:11.440 Right? 274 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:15.399 Is is he getting? Is loved getting paid too? 275 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.799 On the n I L side, you know that obviously 276 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:21.120 the agents are all over him, have been all over him, 277 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:24.000 and and he can't sign, you know yet, but he 278 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:25.639 can sign in the n I L space, and he 279 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:29.039 has with UH with Wasserman in the NIL space. And 280 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:30.840 of course they did a bang up job of getting 281 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:32.919 them some deals. And you know, we thought that that 282 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.200 international kids couldn't get money, but they were smart enough 283 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:38.080 to figure out, Hey, if he goes and plays some 284 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:42.000 things over overseas, then then that found some loopholes and 285 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:44.639 he's getting He's getting a pretty good deal. I don't 286 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:46.279 want to tell you what it is, but I guarantee 287 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:49.799 it's the best thing going. And and uh uh, you know, 288 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:54.679 he he really really likes Nike clothing, but Adidas Adidas 289 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.559 uh is the one that that has given him some 290 00:12:57.679 --> 00:12:59.879 nil money. And I would say they based on what, 291 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.639 you know, what they've done, they may have caught up 292 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.720 there to where it's going to be a you know, 293 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.200 a tough decision for him when when he does that 294 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.519 term pro. But he's got a little bit from them, 295 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:12.399 and and uh, a little bit from from another club company. 296 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:14.559 Maybe I shouldn't have said Adidas on there with under 297 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:17.360 our school, but the point being is that they've definitely 298 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.399 entered this. Yeah, then we have one other kid that's 299 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:22.279 or two or three other kids are getting some small 300 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.440 things that kind of happened organically back in their hometowns 301 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:29.559 or you know, different things like that. It hasn't quite 302 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:34.279 come into it. I mean I've heard about things specifically 303 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:38.480 maybe SEC and a couple of things. I know that 304 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:40.919 that some kids are getting some things from a collective. 305 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:43.879 I think we have one guy getting getting something for 306 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:47.240 collective and on our team. So it's starting to enter 307 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:52.679 into the collective space where it almost feels like some 308 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.600 of these coaches are recruiting with that, even though technically 309 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:56.080 we can. 310 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.960 M yeah, that was gonna be My next question is 311 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:01.600 I know that the deal can't get they can't be 312 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:06.080 associated with the school, but it's almost impossible to not 313 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:10.000 have them associated with the school, right because you are 314 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:14.240 going to that school because you're hey, either by some 315 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.919 other entity or whatever. But because of the entities that 316 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.679 you're getting these dollars from, they can't lock you into 317 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.279 a multi year contract or like a is it a 318 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:26.840 year by. 319 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:29.679 Year deal for the most part these kids, Yeah, I 320 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.399 think it's a year by year you know. Really they 321 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.559 keep the coaches out of the loop. I mean, the 322 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.759 only thing that we can recruit with is basically, you know, 323 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:42.559 we can tell them how many kids at Texas Tech 324 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:46.639 are getting deals, how much total our deals are worth, 325 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:51.240 you know, comprehensive, and we can share that with recruits 326 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:52.639 when they come on VI and say, hey, look, we've 327 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:55.600 got I don't know, seventy five students across the board, 328 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.720 the total number that they're receiving is X amount of 329 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.080 dollars and kind of give them some highlights of what's 330 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:04.159 going on. But we can't really tell them, hey, you're 331 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.639 going to get you know, a certain amount of money 332 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.840 if you come here. You just really got to tell them, 333 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.840 you know, in broad strokes, what's happening. But it's fascinating, 334 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:17.440 it really is. You know how some of these things 335 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:19.320 you know are happening. I know, I know there's been 336 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.360 some things that transfer portal where you feel like, oh, 337 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.000 school X has got to be finished with scholarship and 338 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.120 lot of the hole they get another player and and 339 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.960 so you know, had to be some sort of nil 340 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.960 thing that that ended up pushing over the edge. And 341 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:35.679 I guess in the in the in the golf world, 342 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:40.399 sometimes a little more kids kids usually maybe have the 343 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:42.440 money to go for free. So I don't want to 344 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.000 say it always happened that way, but you're starting I'm 345 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:47.159 starting to get the sense that some of these kids 346 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.159 in the portal or are making decisions to go to 347 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.720 these schools and there's some an il deals attached to those. 348 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.519 Are they just going to schools that they know you 349 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.080 just you just know they wouldn't go. 350 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.480 To Well you just feel like, hey, there's no way 351 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:02.279 they had some money. How are they getting this kid 352 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.360 that that you know, that's a really good player that's 353 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.840 in the portals and yeah, exactly got four and a half. 354 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:13.240 So anyway, you know, it's kind of like the Fitch stores. 355 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.879 It gets bigger and bigger, but it's happening. It's definitely 356 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:16.919 happened in the golf space. 357 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.480 Seems like it would hurt at school, Like I mean, 358 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.840 in that scenario like TCU where it's seventy grand to 359 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.200 go or something. I have no idea if a school 360 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.559 is less, it's like, oh, yeah, the boosters are like, 361 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:29.399 we'll put a quarter of a million in nil and 362 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.480 all of a sudden we have an extra ten scholarships 363 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.120 full scholarships or whatever we have. 364 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:34.360 Yeah, I mean. 365 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.399 That's pretty good. That's a pretty good, pretty good way 366 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:37.440 to get around it. 367 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.240 I guess, jeez, I think it's staggering the numbers of 368 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.080 basketball kids are getting it. And really it just feels 369 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.360 like to me, I mean, it feels like, why wouldn't 370 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:47.000 you go jump back in the portal. It's kind of 371 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.720 like your free agency. I mean, jump back in. You 372 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:51.559 can always come back to the school you were at 373 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:55.000 and you know, bump it up to the number you want, 374 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:56.639 and if you want to get that number, go to 375 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:58.960 that place. If not, stay there and keep getting what 376 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.879 you're getting. But you know, I think it's going to 377 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.119 calm down. I know. I know recently they've they've made 378 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.720 some changes on the how many times you can transfer 379 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:09.480 in a few tweaks here and there. I haven't polished 380 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:11.960 up on exactly all those things, but I know that's 381 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.000 happening with football and basketball where they're starting to come 382 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:17.319 up with some things that may, you know, help keep 383 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:18.200 that under control. 384 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:19.079 That's crazy. 385 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:22.400 Yeah, I mean they've they've got I saw some kid 386 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.759 on Twitter. He's going to be playing at his fourth 387 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:28.519 school this fall, and it's like sixth or seventh year 388 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.799 of eligibility, right, Like, I just don't understand it anymore. 389 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:33.920 Like when I was growing up, and when y'all were 390 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:36.680 growing up, you committed, you played, and that was it, 391 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:38.759 Like you didn't go anywhere else. I wanted to transfer 392 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.839 so bad my first semester at LSU, I wanted to 393 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:43.880 leave so bad. I didn't know anyone there. No one 394 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.039 from Fort Worth went to bat Crews. I had a 395 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.160 hard time fitting in down there to the culture. But 396 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:50.680 you know, thank god my dad. I came home. My 397 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:52.720 dad was like, you got a full scholarship, You're staying 398 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:55.200 your ass down there, you're figuring it out. I'm glad 399 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.160 I did hindsight twenty twenty, but man, I wanted to 400 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:01.559 leave so bad. But nowadays, nowadays, I feel as if 401 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:03.440