1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: What is my great pleasure to welcome to the podcast 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,879 my old friend, the former WBO Heavyweight Chamber of the 3 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:10,119 World now getting ready to challenge for the IBF heavyweight title. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,720 It is one Joe Parker. Joe, thank you very much 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,240 for doing this. You have a very significant fight, as 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,760 I mentioned here, a challenge Daniel Dubois for the IVF 7 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:20,800 heavyweight title. It will take place on February twenty second. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,920 You are the co feature of the rematch between Arthur 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,039 Better bav and Dimetri Bioble for the undisputed light Heavyweight 10 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:30,480 Championship that's taking place in Riad, Saudi Arabia. So welcome 11 00:00:30,519 --> 00:00:32,159 to the show. I'm very excited to talk to you because, 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,560 as I were saying to you before we started to 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,640 record this, it's been a minute since we've chatted. 14 00:00:36,679 --> 00:00:39,399 Speaker 2: Speak a minute by that. Thanks for having me on 15 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:43,520 the show. And yes, I'm looking forward to this massive challenge, 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,600 not only finding any to bofl IVF World Championship, but 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,600 also being on a massive cod and I'm looking forward 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,840 to putting on a good display and been training huh, 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,920 So I'm very excited. 20 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:58,039 Speaker 1: Well, you have faced Joseph Parker, so many top quality 21 00:00:58,079 --> 00:01:00,560 opponents rout your career, whether you have won fights, lost 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,399 the fights, whatever. And I have to tell you, I 23 00:01:02,479 --> 00:01:05,799 talked to boxing people, promoters, managers, TV folks all the time, 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,079 and I have never heard anybody say anything about Joseph 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,640 Parker other than yeah, he'll fight anybody that we give 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,400 to him, anybody that we put in front of him. 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,560 What is it about your mentality that is like you 28 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:17,519 don't care, you just I mean, all they gotta do 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,280 is go on your box wreck and look at the 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,920 caliber of opponents you fought throughout your career. What is 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,920 it about you that makes you just say, hey, I'll 32 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:25,560 I fight whoever they stick in front of me. 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,879 Speaker 2: And then being involved in boxing as a fighter, you 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,959 want to be champions of the world. But also there's 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,319 another side of me, and I'm sure there are other 36 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:35,840 fighters as well that you want to fight the pitch 37 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,079 in the world and you'll want to fight everyone, and 38 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:39,200 you've never turned on the fight. 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,519 Speaker 3: And I think that's been the case in my prill 40 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,719 where has given me. 41 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: Fights And even like you said, win will lose, I 42 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,000 fought nearly everyone and. 43 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: I'll fight everyone. 44 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: I feel like now like I've been boxing for a 45 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:53,480 living twelve years now. And I have mentioned it before, 46 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,439 but I feel like now when you've just found what 47 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,840 really works for me, you know, I got a great team. 48 00:01:58,079 --> 00:01:59,599 I had a great team before, I got a great 49 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:01,840 team now. I feel like now I'm only just getting 50 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,359 into my prime. I'm understanding what I'm doing. I'm enjoying 51 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,799 you waye more and now, and I'm ready to keep 52 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,360 it being involved in big fights. 53 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Well, like you said, you got a big fight coming 54 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,280 up on February twenty second, let's talk a little bit 55 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,240 about Daniel Dui, who seems like a very a very 56 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,840 good opponent, a guy that's finding his own stride, as 57 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:22,039 you have done in your career. Also, so, he got 58 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,919 knocked out by Joe by Joe Joyce, a common opponent 59 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,000 with you, that was back in twenty twenty. A lot 60 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 of people were very negative about the way that that 61 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:33,000 fight ended, even though he was legitimately injured. He won 62 00:02:33,039 --> 00:02:34,759 a bunch of fights after that. Then he got knocked 63 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:37,840 out by Alexander Usik challenging him for the unified titles 64 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,919 in a fight where you know, frankly didn't really even 65 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,439 compete all that well, and a lot of people kind 66 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:43,840 of wrote him off, but then he's got in this 67 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,680 excellent string. He beat Jerald Miller, gave him his first loss. 68 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,879 He beat Philip Herkovich by the TKO, caught him up 69 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:51,680 real bad, ended up getting the interim title, got elevated, 70 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,919 and then he obviously scored the huge victory against Joseph 71 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,360 against not Joseph Parker against Anthony Joshua in a massive 72 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:00,800 knockout that took place in the in the in the 73 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,280 September time frame last year. Which is the real Duboir? 74 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,439 Is it the guy that's looked maybe uh shaky, let's say, 75 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:11,120 against Usick and got stopped by Joe Joyce, Or is 76 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,360 it the guy that we've seen, especially over the last 77 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,360 three fights, where he's really put it together against good 78 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,280 quality opposition. 79 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: I think he can only take what you've seen ridden 80 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,759 recent times. I know that he has been stopped by 81 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,680 Joe Joyce. I was a while ago, like you mentioned, 82 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,520 twenty twenty was it? 83 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: And then you know, you got. 84 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: The fight with Usick, who's a masterclass and also you know, 85 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,719 very skilled movement, you know, faints, handspeed, all this, and 86 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:38,479 then then you like you say, Dubois been on a 87 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,199 run and the middle of fight I thought, I don't 88 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,120 know that he was going to win. 89 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: All these fights. I thought, you know, because he's had. 90 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:47,319 Speaker 2: Quitting him before, it might be you know, it might 91 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,840 be something they might lean towards when times do get 92 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,919 hard in the fight. But he has shown a lot 93 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,000 more maturity in a way that he's supposed to fight. Confidence, 94 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,120 self belief, and he's shown he's showing what he can 95 00:03:58,159 --> 00:03:59,039 do in the ring, you know. 96 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: The fight head. He's want to move by knockout. So 97 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,840 he is hot, sky high and confidence at the moment. 98 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:10,319 Speaker 1: So he obviously had a huge knockout against Anthony Joshua. 99 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,879 I mean that was probably one of the knockouts of 100 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,199 the year in twenty twenty four. When you fought Anthony 101 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,839 Joshua and you're a great, big, huge unification fight back 102 00:04:16,879 --> 00:04:19,800 in twenty eighteen, he didn't knock you out. He won 103 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:22,279 a you know, a decision that it was pretty clear cut, 104 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,279 you know, in handing you that defeat. So you have those, 105 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:26,920 you know, you both have the Anthony Joshua was the 106 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,639 common opponent, a guy you lost to, but a guy 107 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,920 he just blew away. Do you think there's anything to 108 00:04:33,079 --> 00:04:35,879 the concept of the that the common opponent means anything 109 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,199 going into this fight, I don't think. 110 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:41,319 Speaker 2: I think times are different, you know, from the twenty 111 00:04:41,319 --> 00:04:43,839 six year old fighter who was trying to unify myself 112 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:47,000 against Joshua as a totally different fighting out and physically 113 00:04:47,079 --> 00:04:47,680 and mentally. 114 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: I think he you know, when you approach it fight, 115 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:50,920 you have. 116 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:53,519 Speaker 2: To look at the recent performances and that's what he 117 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,600 can sort of take from me. You can't really, I mean, 118 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,680 you can always revert back to type. Things do get hot, 119 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:02,040 you can, But I think that with Dupau's performances, he's 120 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,319 showing that when things do get hot in the fights, 121 00:05:04,759 --> 00:05:07,040 he can push through that. You know that haw should 122 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:08,360 he's been for before. 123 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:12,399 Speaker 1: So you're not expecting then that you're expecting the Dubois 124 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:14,079 that showed the heart as opposed to the guy that 125 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,920 maybe packed it in. 126 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm expecting that the Bois that we've seen recently. Yeah, 127 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:22,519 the one that's showing hot, the one that's showing grit 128 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:25,680 and determination and a bit of dog in these fights 129 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,199 that we've seen. 130 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: So we talked about his excellent run that he's been 131 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:31,279 on those in those recent fights that's really catapulted him 132 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,800 to the top of the weight class other than let's 133 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,199 say Alexander Usk, you know who is the world champion, 134 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,720 but you, you, yourself, Joe, have had a tremendous run yourself. 135 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,279 I mean, ever since that loss against Joe Joyce, which 136 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,480 was a heck of a fight that was back in 137 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,120 what twenty and twenty two, that you've won a bunch 138 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,600 of fights in are all. So you've won five fights 139 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,759 in a row. Now, they weren't all the elite guys, 140 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:52,879 but you were super active and you did beat two 141 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,519 of the top guys in the division in back to 142 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,279 back fights. You had the big win against Deontay Wilder 143 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,959 and then you had to win against the Jilly Jang. 144 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,040 So I think those are pretty much two of the 145 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,839 best big wins in heavyweight boxing over the last few years, 146 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:06,800 you know, other than maybe uh Sik you know way 147 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:09,399 Fury beating Wilder two times in a row. So I 148 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:12,680 wonder what has changed for you since the loss against 149 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,040 Joe that allowed you to put together an excellent run. 150 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:18,279 And on top of that, in that run, have those 151 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,319 two elite victories. 152 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you have a loss, I'm not sure about 153 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,279 other fighters, but me personally, I had lost and I 154 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:27,759 started asking myself questions. You know, I've been sacrificing being 155 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:29,680 away from the family for a long time. I left 156 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,600 my family in New Zealand, training England, doing everything I 157 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:35,560 thought was right, and then I got a big loss. 158 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: To Joey Joyce. 159 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,079 Speaker 2: The next fight I had was Jack Messi and still 160 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:45,360 the performance was very not a good performances inconsistent, yeah, inconsistent, 161 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,439 but still the win, I mean, still a win. But 162 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,319 just when you look at the performance, it was just 163 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,040 not really up to the pie, you know what I mean. 164 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:55,360 So I started watching more questions than I employed someone 165 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:58,920 named George Lockton, who I admit through Tyson Fury. He 166 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:01,800 did his nutrition and I asked him if he could 167 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,879 come home and see camp but doing my nutrition for me. 168 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,160 And then one thing led to the next. I started 169 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:10,519 questioning him about strength conditioning, and his knowledge on strength conditioning, 170 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,519 recovery and nutrition changed everything that I've been doing since 171 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,879 linking up with him. 172 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,199 Speaker 3: And I find I find now that the. 173 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: Working relationship I have with George Locke and Andy Lee 174 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:24,920 has made a massive difference. Us all working together and 175 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,079 sink and just doing everything like with togetherness, you know. 176 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,199 Speaker 3: But there's been a. 177 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,879 Speaker 2: Lot of learning and there's a lot of science behind 178 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,800 a lot of things that I haven't even you know 179 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:37,600 that I've just only started learning about now. 180 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: So when you had the fights against Wilder and jillye Jang, 181 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:43,319 the two fights that you won most recently that were 182 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,160 the biggest fights that you won in a while, that 183 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:48,160 you were the underdog in both those fights as far 184 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:51,199 as I can tell, and you you thrived. You know, 185 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:53,360 it wasn't really like there was even a It wasn't 186 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,800 like they were controversial. I mean, you didn't get knockouts, 187 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 but you were the clear winner of both those fights. 188 00:07:57,959 --> 00:07:59,439 And you're going to go into this fight with Danga 189 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,959 Duap problem is the underdog. You like that position because 190 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,319 of your success. You've had it where I think a 191 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:06,639 lot of people look at Anthony Joshua and say, well, 192 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,399 du Wa destroyed him. You know, he's a wrecking machine 193 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:11,800 right now. And Joseph Parker goes in this fight kind 194 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:14,279 of like not getting the kind of attention maybe that 195 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,319 he's been getting. 196 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:19,199 Speaker 2: Always the underdog, And you know, I appreciate the position 197 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:25,120 them and you uh we uh like plan spoilers like myself, 198 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,079 Andy Lee and George Locke, and they had big fights 199 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:29,759 sign up for Lolla and Joshua another fight, other fight 200 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,120 signed up for jan But I do I do. I 201 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,159 do like being the underdog, and I think we can 202 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:37,360 I can thrive off that, and I can build off that, 203 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:40,720 and I can you know the element of surprise, you know. 204 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: I was wondering when you defeated uh Deontay Wilder. It 205 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,039 was it was well known I had reported, others had 206 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,559 reported that that there was a deal in place that 207 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:51,039 if Anthony Joshua won his main event that night, and 208 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,080 if Deontay Wilder had defeated Joseph Parker, that the fight 209 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:55,679 that so many people look forward to it for a 210 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:57,840 very long time. Although not at the same level as 211 00:08:57,879 --> 00:08:59,240 it would have been had they met a few years 212 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,039 ago as the feeding fighters for the undisputed title, it 213 00:09:02,159 --> 00:09:03,960 was still gonna be a pretty big deal. And you 214 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:07,679 ruin those plans. Were you a little bit offended maybe 215 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,399 that a quality championship level fighter like yourself, a former 216 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,360 world champion, was basically being completely overlooked by everybody, thinking 217 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,840 that they're just gonna walk through those opponents, you know, 218 00:09:17,919 --> 00:09:20,960 and and make the fight between Wilder and Anthony Joshua. 219 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,519 But you were gonna have something to say about that. 220 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: You always gonna have gonna say, but we'll say it quietly. 221 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,639 Just got about our work and keep building. And you 222 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,159 know what a lot because of my performances before that, 223 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,919 a lot of people thought I was just gonna go 224 00:09:32,919 --> 00:09:35,120 and get knocked down, and then that's fine because my 225 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,320 performances weren't really the best. But in terms of working 226 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:40,320 with Georgia and saying working with Andy and being able. 227 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,879 Speaker 3: To build, build, build, I had a good feeling. 228 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:45,799 Speaker 2: Against the fight that I've done everything right, you know, 229 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,440 and I know Water was coming off a long layoff, 230 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,320 and I was sort of the I was the busier 231 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,039 fighter leading up to that fight, and they did have 232 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:54,639 that big fight locked in. I think they already had 233 00:09:54,679 --> 00:10:00,159 contracts sign Yeah, but that's why after the fight and 234 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,519 if forgetting that wins just meant so much more, you know, 235 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,000 just leaving the family training hard, everyone's thinking you're gonna 236 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,440 get knocked down, and then you're able to get a 237 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,039 good result. 238 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Now you brought up Andy Lee a couple of times. 239 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:12,960 I have known Andy Lee since he turned professional as 240 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,639 a boxer himself under the great Emmanuel Stewart, who was 241 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:18,480 a dear friend of mine. I covered Andy Lee's entire career. 242 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:20,720 I love the guy and so when he linked up 243 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,399 with you, it made me happy because it was like 244 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 a continuation of the great Kronk legacy that was built 245 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,960 by Emmanuel Steward that he was like a disciple, and 246 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,879 here he is training Joseph Parker. So I like for 247 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,600 you to just try to express to me what has 248 00:10:32,639 --> 00:10:34,679 Andy meant to your career. I know you mentioned about 249 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,159 getting your new strength and conditioning, your nutrition situation handled 250 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,080 with George, but talk to me a little about what 251 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,320 Andy has brought in terms of the in the gym, 252 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,799 the ex's and the O was just your mentality, the 253 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,679 poise that you always show. What does he meant for 254 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,679 your camp in your corner? 255 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: You know, when you have. 256 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,759 Speaker 2: Someone like Andy with the experience that he has under 257 00:10:52,759 --> 00:10:55,759 his belt, being a world champion himself, being around the Manusrurt, 258 00:10:55,759 --> 00:10:59,000 like you said, training and that sort of group, and 259 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:01,240 then bringing the experience say he has, but also his 260 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,919 calm nature, you know you need someone. And also I 261 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,679 know we're great friends, but we're we're in the gym. 262 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,080 It's a different story. There's no there's no friendship. Is 263 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,200 it's you know, it's it's a boxer and his teacher, 264 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,639 and there's a lot of there's a lot of trainers 265 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:17,240 out there who are good at training, but not all 266 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,440 of them are teachers, you know. And there's there's a 267 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,840 way that Andy breaks things down that I'm able to 268 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,840 take in and and sort of understand. And he sort 269 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,000 of just stripped me back into and who worked on 270 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 the basics, and then it just built me up again. 271 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:33,360 And I feel like there was as a fighter. When 272 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:35,720 you go through all these I don't know, for years 273 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,759 of training, you so forget about the basics and what's 274 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:39,960 really important, and you really have to. I mean, the 275 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,399 basics is what you build everything off. So Andy, Andy 276 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,000 is a great teacher. Andy is a great friend, but 277 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,480 I also I think he's a master. And coming up 278 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,519 with a game plan and uh Win executed. It's a 279 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:51,960 great night. 280 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: You were so busy after the fight with Joe Joyce. 281 00:11:55,879 --> 00:11:57,519 I was looking at your box track and I counted 282 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,159 five fights in fourteen months, including the two victories against 283 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:05,320 Deontay Wilder and Zilli Jang, But post that you only 284 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,879 had the one fight in twenty twenty four and eleven 285 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:10,360 month layoff. So I'm wondering why so busy for that 286 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:13,080 period of time and then so inactive over the past 287 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:16,200 year as opposed maybe you know a little bit more, 288 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:16,559 you know. 289 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love to keep busy and I love 290 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,200 to keep fighting. And you know, like you said, from 291 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,720 the Joys fight and Soil the Jang fight, we're fighting 292 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,480 those four or five fights in two and twenty four. 293 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,919 After Jang, I thought, you know what, I've got a 294 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:29,919 good win. I'm gonna keep fighting now, I'm going to 295 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,879 have another two or three fights. That's what happened, and 296 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:35,679 tried to make fights, tried to try everything, ranked, promoters, 297 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,360 rang everyone, Can I get a fight? Can you get 298 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:40,240 a fight? And just what I couldn't get a fight? 299 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,080 Locked in and this was the only fight now is 300 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,240 the fighter they offered me? So I know I've had 301 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,960 a long layoff, and they can to fix fighters being 302 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,960 out of the ring for so long. But you know, 303 00:12:51,039 --> 00:12:53,200 when I feel like I've lived, I've lived the life 304 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,919 of a fighter or a boxer and been focusing on strength, conditioning, nutrition. 305 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:02,519 I did want to keep busy, but it's not really 306 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,159 up to me. You know, I didn't really get the 307 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,480 opportunity to to have a fight. 308 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: Well, you were you were the WBO champion back several 309 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,039 years ago. You know that was prior than you obviously 310 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,440 tried to unify with Joshua, but you haven't had I know, 311 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,480 you had interim title fights, but I'm talking about a 312 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,000 bona fide one of the major belts. This will be 313 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,360 the first one in a while when you fight do 314 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,320 way how just just the idea that you can maybe 315 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,200 grab one of these big belts. You got to be 316 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,000 just thrilled about that. I mean, because it's been. 317 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled and I am so excited. I'm over the 318 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:33,120 mint for this opportunity. But I know it's just the opportunity. 319 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,759 I haven't got the belt yet. Ye, It'll mean so 320 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:40,039 much more. It means something different winning this time because 321 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:41,639 the last time I was I think I was a 322 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,759 well I know I was immature. I didn't really appreciate 323 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:46,279 the position I was in, wasn't taking it seriously. Whereas 324 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,000 now I'm thirty three years old, married, you know, I 325 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,639 got five kids, and it's a different position to be in. 326 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,879 But just the opportunity to fight for the belt again 327 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,679 after all these years, right, it's going to be uh, 328 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:58,759 it's going to be a good feeling. 329 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: So if you're able to do the business and take 330 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,200 care of Danie Duba and raise that IBF title, what 331 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,679 would you want to do next? A lot of people 332 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,000 look at it and say, well, Usik got basically stripped 333 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:10,159 or were sportsd to vacate, so it should be his. 334 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:12,799 I assume you would want to fight Husick for the 335 00:14:12,919 --> 00:14:15,639 undisputed opportunity? Is that maybe you want to go after 336 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,279 one of the guys that you lost to a Joshua fight, 337 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,559 another Joyce fight, Dellian White's the other fighter that you 338 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:22,759 lost a fight to, Like what is in your mind? 339 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:25,080 Like how would you like to try to capitalize. 340 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:25,399 Speaker 3: And be able to do this? 341 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,919 Speaker 2: You never want to look too far ahead, but in 342 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,120 my mind it would be one of the IBA championship 343 00:14:30,159 --> 00:14:34,120 with the World of du Bois fight Musik unification undisputed 344 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,679 and then avenger losses to those guys that I thought 345 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 that I've lost to. That that's for me, That's the 346 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,960 perfect sidari in my head. 347 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: And you mentioned you know you've been doing this while 348 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,879 you got your thirty three years old, five kids, married, 349 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:51,360 successful heavyweight pro nearly thirteen years how many you ever 350 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:52,960 give thought how much longer you wanted to do this 351 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,080 because you're you're young age wise, but it's been a longer. 352 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,759 You've fought a lot of top guys and haven't all 353 00:14:58,759 --> 00:14:59,399 been easy. 354 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: Fights sometimes, But in my thirty fifth year of being 355 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,159 on this earth, I'm done. 356 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,279 Speaker 1: So that's you got to take care of this business 357 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:08,960 and maybe what two three more fights and you're. 358 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, take care of this business. I'm thirty three now, 359 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:13,639 and then once once I turned thirty five, and I'm 360 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,799 sometime when i'm thirty five, I'm out. I'm going to 361 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:19,159 be very thankful for the buss as a career that 362 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,440 I've had and still going strong. 363 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: Now. I've been, like you said, I've been. 364 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: In boxing for a while now and just got to 365 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,200 look after yourself after, you know, after all everything you've 366 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,960 achieved or. 367 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: One a chief. 368 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: So I'll just wrap up with this. Then, Joe, you 369 00:15:32,679 --> 00:15:35,000 got to fight with Dubi. I mean, on any other 370 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,480 card in the world. That's the main event obviously, but 371 00:15:37,679 --> 00:15:40,240 I wonder how do you feel like the fight goes? 372 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,399 How does it play out with your fight with Daniel Dubas. 373 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,159 Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen it in the two I 374 00:15:47,159 --> 00:15:48,519 feel like I'll be too smart for him. 375 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: I know I do. 376 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: Boss got heavy punches, any punches and combinations and for 377 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:55,919 these bunches, for bunches of punches. 378 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: But I feel like I'm going to be too smart. 379 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: Movement is going to be a bit of an issue 380 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,960 for him, and we'll work on a good game plan 381 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:04,159 with Andy. But and also I feel like I've got 382 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:07,480 more power. You know, I'm going to be a lot heavier, 383 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:08,840 not a lot of Hey, I want to be heavy 384 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:10,720 in this fight, and I think I'm going to break 385 00:16:10,759 --> 00:16:15,000 him down, break him down until he's a bit confusing then. 386 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:15,639 Speaker 3: And get him out of there. 387 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: It may be a better chin, Joe. I mean not that, 388 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,200 not that this son Daniel, but maybe a better chin 389 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:19,840 than you have in him. 390 00:16:19,879 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Daniel's got a lots You've had of the chin himself. 391 00:16:22,679 --> 00:16:25,039 There's her Goovich right hands. Joshua landed a good right 392 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,279 hand before he got off to himself, so he has 393 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,720 shown a good chin. It's just that he refused to 394 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:33,399 got dropped by a jab and also like the injury 395 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,399 with the Joe Joyces fight, so you just have to 396 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,320 break him down to the point where he can't really 397 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,440 say what's happening in the fight. 398 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:42,639 Speaker 1: Well, whatever happens, and if Joe I wish you the 399 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,480 best of luck, look forward to watching it. Thank you 400 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:45,799 very much for joining me today. 401 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,759 Speaker 3: Thank you very much.