Speaker 1: It's Nice Eyes Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: N So we're talking about the story of the day,
Speaker 2: which is the story of President Joe Biden reversing himself
Speaker 2: from what he said about pardoning his son Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2: And we're asking you. The Globe tomorrow is going to
Speaker 2: say that, well, many people are going to be telling
Speaker 2: the Globe tomorrow that this is the exudes white privilege.
Speaker 2: My question is did the president lie when he told
Speaker 2: the world repeatedly that he was not going to pardon
Speaker 2: his son. The question was asked by David Muir of
Speaker 2: ABC without equivocation, will you pardon your son? He said, no,
Speaker 2: I think all of us remember that. So now here
Speaker 2: we here we are, and you can say circumstances have changed,
Speaker 2: and that's what some have argued. But I still think
Speaker 2: he lied when he told David Mure and others. Let's
Speaker 2: see what what Warren and fall River thinks. Warren, you
Speaker 2: next night side, welcome, thanks for calling him.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Dan, Yeah, all all that went on here
Speaker 3: was Joe Biden is his political career has ended, so
Speaker 3: and it is his son, and he had the power
Speaker 3: he you know, he had the position to to pardon them.
Speaker 4: So that's all that really.
Speaker 3: Went on here?
Speaker 5: Was it right?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 3: Is it privileged? Absolutely? But when have when has any
Speaker 3: politician really gone to jail for the crime that they commit?
Speaker 2: Well, they have been members of Congress, I mean right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could think of you know, you
Speaker 3: know Ciance down here in Rhode Island, you had the
Speaker 3: formal speaker.
Speaker 2: Of the House. There a guy named Fox down there
Speaker 2: who went who went to jail? I mean he had
Speaker 2: James Michael Curley, fairly famous here in Boston. But there
Speaker 2: have been congress you know, there was the former governor
Speaker 2: of Illinois who who went to jail.
Speaker 3: He's not out, but his long name with the b Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 3: I can't, but it's just the point that that there,
Speaker 3: you know, there was a congress.
Speaker 2: There was a congress from from Ohio who did time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I I know that there were state senators from Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Uh uh here at two state senators or a fellow
Speaker 2: named Ron Mackenzie who got out and became a lawyer,
Speaker 2: got his barb license back. Joe DeCarlo, who is a
Speaker 2: state senator from from Revere.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There there there was a Congress from San Diego whose
Speaker 2: name was Cunningham who had been a decorated pilot during
Speaker 2: the Vietnam War, went to Congress. Yeah, there's yeah, there
Speaker 2: a few that have that have seen the inside of.
Speaker 3: A has also been more than a few that have
Speaker 3: committed climes, and you know, nothing ever seems to happen
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 2: There were many.
Speaker 3: Yeah, should have.
Speaker 6: Went, should have went to president?
Speaker 3: Who was that destroying, destroying Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2: I was going to mention the locker up phrase, but no.
Speaker 2: But but all I'm just saying is that that the
Speaker 2: mistake here was that that the president should have said.
Speaker 2: And look, in June, he was a candidate for president,
Speaker 2: he had not had his debate with Donald Trump, he
Speaker 2: had not been removed by the grand poobahs of the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party. He assumed he was running for president in
Speaker 2: the fall, and obviously even if he ran, and if
Speaker 2: he lost, he then could turn around and part in
Speaker 2: his son. But I think that it would have been
Speaker 2: smarter for him to say, look, I haven't even contemplated
Speaker 2: that question. I'm I'm thinking about, you know, running my
Speaker 2: campaign for the White House. And but when he said no,
Speaker 2: at that point.
Speaker 3: You're lying, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, it isn't line.
Speaker 3: But you know, but then again, you know many, you
Speaker 3: know many, you know, I mean, politicians are historically dishonored.
Speaker 2: Okay, so so would you So I assume that this
Speaker 2: doesn't damage President Biden's reputation in your mind any more
Speaker 2: than it has already been damaged.
Speaker 6: It's already been damaged.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I mean, it just doesn't really change anyone.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was talking to a couple of people
Speaker 3: at work, and this doesn't change the opinion of him
Speaker 3: at all, you know. And they kind of knew that,
Speaker 3: you know, they were just kind of surprised that he
Speaker 3: didn't do it earlier, to be honest with you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean obviously, if anything had ever happened
Speaker 2: to him, I mean, God forbid that if he had,
Speaker 2: you know, suffered you know, a horrific you know, medical
Speaker 2: emergency and passed away, I'm sure that Vice President Harris.
Speaker 5: Would have oh yeah, I mean, he would have.
Speaker 2: It would have been one of the things that well,
Speaker 2: one of the things that it was discussed was whether
Speaker 2: he would step aside briefly in the last couple of
Speaker 2: months and allow Vice President Harris to become President of
Speaker 2: the United States, albeit only for a couple of months,
Speaker 2: and that was actually discussed by some people fairly since
Speaker 2: you know, you know, with sincerity.
Speaker 5: Yep, and I remember that that.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that would have been he
Speaker 2: might have said, look, I'm going to step aside. I'm done.
Speaker 2: You get you get to be president first, you know,
Speaker 2: female president, but can you take care of Hunter. I'm
Speaker 2: sure she would have said absolutely anyway.
Speaker 5: I'm sure, I'm sure it was in the in the cards.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Warren appreciated the call, said goodnight. Uh, the only
Speaker 2: line open is six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Got two lines there, six one seven nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty, ladies. I want to hear from you. Come on.
Speaker 2: We had uh, we've had some call female calls early tonight.
Speaker 2: I'd love to know you thought here. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm staking out my position. And that is that President
Speaker 2: Biden lied, boldfaced lied in June when he said he
Speaker 2: would not he would not Proughton his son. There's no
Speaker 2: question about that. Now. Again, his circumstances have changed. Personally,
Speaker 2: he did not, he was not. He surrendered the nominee
Speaker 2: nomine nation of the Democratic Party. His vice president lost.
Speaker 2: I guess those are situations that have changed. But The
Speaker 2: question was which you partner your son and his answer
Speaker 2: was no, No. I don't know anyone defends that, but
Speaker 2: some of my callers haven't done a pretty good job
Speaker 2: at it. We'll come back on Nightside only one line
Speaker 2: open now seventy six, one, seven, nine, three thirty Back
Speaker 2: on Nightside.
Speaker 8: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 8: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: The other question I have is anyone disappointed in this?
Speaker 2: I mean, are there people out there who wanted to
Speaker 2: see Hunter Biden go to jail? I don't think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there who probably wanted to
Speaker 2: see that. But at the same time, the real I
Speaker 2: use the word crime in air quotes is the president
Speaker 2: line last in June. In my mind, Samuel in West Roxford, Samuel,
Speaker 2: you next on Nightside. Thanks for calling in. How are
Speaker 2: you sure?
Speaker 9: Okay? Let's see Uh well, first year, I agree with
Speaker 9: you that that uh the elied in June and uh.
Speaker 9: I think the purpose then was to make himself uh
Speaker 9: look good you and then later, you know, as compared
Speaker 9: to uh, compared to Trump. You know, uh, you know,
Speaker 9: you know, I'm you know, I'm not you know, I'm
Speaker 9: not above the law. I respect the law, you know,
Speaker 9: and then you know, and then then of course after
Speaker 9: the election, well you know, who cares about that. Let's
Speaker 9: just forget about that and this other thing, this, this,
Speaker 9: this sweet the here's here's also I think the I
Speaker 9: think Biden's Bob well, Biden's pardons I had to talk
Speaker 9: is mainly to protect himself, uh more more than Hunter.
Speaker 9: Uh namely that uh, this this this this sweeping part
Speaker 9: of it going going all the way back to twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: It's it's eleven years. It's it's it's just one month
Speaker 2: short of eleven years. January first, twenty fourteen to January first,
Speaker 2: where I hear I think it was twenty twenty actually
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I'll find it here. I had the
Speaker 2: actual document in front of me, and I have misplaced it,
Speaker 2: as I often do. But you go right ahead, I'll
Speaker 2: listen to you.
Speaker 9: Go ahad And anyway, the date goes to just before
Speaker 9: Hunter started with this parisma holding and and uh, you know,
Speaker 9: I think that's how your people saying, that's how that
Speaker 9: they could get picked h to wipe down all out
Speaker 9: and uh and and and you and and and with
Speaker 9: without without this part without this pardon. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 9: you know, a hundred hundred could still be charged with
Speaker 9: any later with any of those other things, not not
Speaker 9: just the not just the gun chargers and the tax
Speaker 9: that's minor actually compared to this.
Speaker 2: Which he has committed or may have committed or taken
Speaker 2: part in during the period for January first, twenty fourteenth
Speaker 2: through December one, yesterday, twenty twenty four So it's it's
Speaker 2: eleven years and obviously you can't pre pardon someone who
Speaker 2: would had to be to December first of yesterday, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty fourth So.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, question, Well, no, I guess no, I guess
Speaker 9: I'm not. Well, I'm surprised. I was I'm surprised. I'm
Speaker 9: not surprised that the original pardon, but the sweeping part
Speaker 9: of it was was a was a was a surprise,
Speaker 9: well because well, first of all, the way he's described
Speaker 9: his pretend that there's all just about the oh this
Speaker 9: this gun charge and and the tax evasion. But but
Speaker 9: then but then he throws the throws, you know, all
Speaker 9: this other stuff that that that hasn't even been no
Speaker 9: indictments or trials.
Speaker 2: But that you're going to give someone a pardon, you
Speaker 2: give him a pardon for everything possible.
Speaker 9: Oh, I mean, uh, well, yeah, yeah, that's a question.
Speaker 9: That's that's a question. Uh you know, I mean is
Speaker 9: that you know, I mean, is the constitutional wow that
Speaker 9: kind of ah in that way.
Speaker 2: For no, it's it's it's a it's a it's it's
Speaker 2: his authority as the president of the United States, uh,
Speaker 2: pursuing too, his powers that the Article two, section clause
Speaker 2: the section two clause one. So yeah, he he has
Speaker 2: that authority. It is a broad authority that that the
Speaker 2: President of the United States has.
Speaker 9: So I mean that's even I mean, that's even broader
Speaker 9: than than than Ford Nixon.
Speaker 2: Uh Forxon also from I believe, from the moment of
Speaker 2: his entirety of his time in office.
Speaker 9: But but but was it the same kind of a pardon,
Speaker 9: well for you know, for any for any crime, any
Speaker 9: crimes haven't even been discussed that kind of a thing.
Speaker 9: You did that too, well, I mean I don't remember
Speaker 9: that that exactly anyway. The other thing I want to
Speaker 9: talk about the the the media reaction here before and after.
Speaker 9: I mean I saw some clips of this, uh like
Speaker 9: like you know, like like like Mika on Morning Joe beforehand,
Speaker 9: you know, you know, you know, praising praising Joe's you know,
Speaker 9: saying that that he earlier, you know, saying that you
Speaker 9: know that you know, Joe is Joe was you know
Speaker 9: here here's Joe well, you know, protecting the law in uh.
Speaker 9: And then and then uh, you know, this time after
Speaker 9: this news came out, I don't even think she said
Speaker 9: anything about the about Joe's uh, you know, pardon right now.
Speaker 9: I mean what you know, you when these news these
Speaker 9: news media they're there, some were acting shocked. Oh god,
Speaker 9: I didn't expect this or or you know this they
Speaker 9: all did, they all knew this.
Speaker 2: Well again they're they're they're changing things around. Uh here
Speaker 2: again just to quote for you from uh from the Constitution,
Speaker 2: Article two, Section two, Clause one, in part says he
Speaker 2: shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses
Speaker 2: against the United States, except in cases of impeachment. So
Speaker 2: as long as they take if Hunter ever runs, they
Speaker 2: can try to impeach them anyway. Samuel is always appreciated.
Speaker 2: You call it. Thank you much.
Speaker 5: Okay, have a good night.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Stephen new Hampshire, marymack new Hampshire, Steve
Speaker 2: you next time, nights.
Speaker 5: I go right ahead, Hey, Dan, glad to have you back.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
Speaker 5: I just want to say that you know this pardon
Speaker 5: is he's a hypocrite A number one. I do agree
Speaker 5: that he lied back in June, but you have to
Speaker 5: look at the timeline of what happened during last spring
Speaker 5: and into the summer. You know, all those charges against Trump.
Speaker 5: It would have looked really bad if you had the
Speaker 5: same well not the same charges, but different charges against
Speaker 5: the sun in pardoning him after he said that no
Speaker 5: one is above the law. But beyond that, you know,
Speaker 5: he had he fled the debate on June twenty seventh,
Speaker 5: and then the next month in July, the Sweetheart Lee
Speaker 5: deal that was rejected by the judge. He really thought.
Speaker 5: I think he already knew that that deal was in
Speaker 5: the works. I believe that he didn't think he would
Speaker 5: need pardon his son because the Flea deal would have
Speaker 5: taken care of.
Speaker 2: The deal was actually rejected in the summer, in the
Speaker 2: summer of twenty twenty three. That's they thought that it
Speaker 2: was all wrapped up. Oh, I thought it was the
Speaker 2: federal judge in Delaware said wait a second, hold on here, uh,
Speaker 2: And then at that point. Weiss then got serious and
Speaker 2: brought charges and the rest is history.
Speaker 5: So the same Justice department that Biden has working for him,
Speaker 5: they were the ones that put together this Flea deal
Speaker 5: back then, and he's accusing them of having some political,
Speaker 5: uh you know, agenda against his sons.
Speaker 2: And that's his It's his justice department. It's not as
Speaker 2: if this was the Trump Justice Department.
Speaker 1: It's his justice He.
Speaker 5: Makes it look like it's an abstract justice department. It's
Speaker 5: his own justice department. I mean, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: he's responding for what goes on in his own.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Let's assume you were president
Speaker 2: of the United States and your son was looking at
Speaker 2: potentially some jail time. What would you do.
Speaker 5: Well, I would hope I would bring up, you know,
Speaker 5: my son to.
Speaker 2: Okay, so something happened, he's been convicted, he's facing jail time.
Speaker 2: What would you do?
Speaker 5: Try and get somebody else to get him off the hook.
Speaker 5: That's pretty much what Biden wanted to do. He wanted
Speaker 5: Harris to get him off the hook.
Speaker 2: Again. One of the things that he could have done,
Speaker 2: I guess is said I'm going to resign and allow
Speaker 2: my vice president to become the first female president of
Speaker 2: the United States. I'm also first you know, minority woman president.
Speaker 2: And as part of that deal, hunch against the Pardoner's
Speaker 2: getting the.
Speaker 5: Polls during the summer, you know, did not look for
Speaker 5: good for Biden. That's why they you know, your immaculate
Speaker 5: nomination quote was absolutely correct. That's the reason they got
Speaker 5: rid of him and.
Speaker 2: Never never got a vote. Got he never got to vote,
Speaker 2: but won the nomination. By the way, running for the
Speaker 2: office too, got the nomination. It was miraculous.
Speaker 5: And it's just the whole thing. You know, people would
Speaker 5: have to if you look at this thing, you know,
Speaker 5: like as his legacy will probably reflect he this is
Speaker 5: going to come down as overshadowing everything he did during
Speaker 5: his last three and a half years or more.
Speaker 2: It's this is going to really more than just a
Speaker 2: blue well, but inflation, immigration, the withdrawal from from Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: that's where his is, where his polling numbers if you
Speaker 2: go back and look plummeted alf sure, the disaster at Kaboul.
Speaker 5: Well, this will be there somewhere probably.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, no question, no question. The Carter Pardoner's brother, Billy,
Speaker 2: the guy who had the Billy Beer, but he was
Speaker 2: just kind of because he was recepted from Kadafi. He
Speaker 2: was an agent of Libya and he never declared himself
Speaker 2: an agent. Those are all like again, small small time.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, Jimmy Carter terrible, terrible president, but an honest man.
Speaker 5: That's the way I see him. I remember him. But
Speaker 5: he left the country in a total disaster. Reagan. Reagan
Speaker 5: was Democrat.
Speaker 2: He's the country in a disaster. Republican can come along
Speaker 2: and clean it up.
Speaker 5: Trump Trump's gonna have to do a good job and
Speaker 5: try and keep his administration as clean as possible. I
Speaker 5: don't know if that will happen, but I don't want
Speaker 5: to see anymore scandals or impeachment. I'd like to just
Speaker 5: see him do his job, just like Belichick always said,
Speaker 5: you know, do your job and just quit talking. Do it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's where that was.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2: I you know, he's he will soon be my president again.
Speaker 2: But I'm really good. I'm good. I'm ready to criticize him,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, I think we should give
Speaker 2: him a chance. I don't know how many people on
Speaker 2: the left are going to give him a chance, but
Speaker 2: I think all should give him a chance, just as
Speaker 2: we gave Joe Biden a chance. Steve got a run.
Speaker 5: Thanks you boring. It won't be boring for the next
Speaker 5: four years, I hope not.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Thank you, Thank you? All right? The only line
Speaker 2: opened six thirty for one to chime into this. Did
Speaker 2: Joe Biden do the right thing? One thing? We know?
Speaker 2: In my opinion in JUNI lied? And you know, President
Speaker 2: United States, that's a tough one. That's a tough one.
Speaker 2: If you agree, fine, if you disagree, that's okay as well.
Speaker 2: We'll come on right back on Night's that after the
Speaker 2: news break at the ottom of the.
Speaker 1: Hour, It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go, gonna go to Bill
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania talking about Joe Biden's pardon for his son
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas Hunter. Hey, Bill, how are you?
Speaker 6: I'm doing good?
Speaker 4: Dan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great tonight. What's going on down there in Pennsylvania?
Speaker 10: Well, it's getting cold. Let me see, it's about twenty
Speaker 10: two degrees already down here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's save story up here. Where did the summer go?
Speaker 5: That's right?
Speaker 10: Who did? Anyways, I'm thinking that the Democrat Party have
Speaker 10: not have not heard the last of this story. And
Speaker 10: I was listening to a I forget which station it was,
Speaker 10: so I skip around a lot doing A guy there
Speaker 10: was talking about that down the road, a state, Okay,
Speaker 10: not fed, but a state will bring charges against Hunter
Speaker 10: because there's there's you know, a lot of collateral stuff
Speaker 10: with when you when you file a false uh FED.
Speaker 10: I r s that somehow there's a reciprocal in the state.
Speaker 10: That's that's that's that's going to be happening.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: You can you can have you can have a state
Speaker 2: in the federal prosecution. But again, I think that there
Speaker 2: comes a point in time where you say, what's what's
Speaker 2: the purpose here? What's the purpose? You know? I mean
Speaker 2: I I just think that you know, I had suggested
Speaker 2: that it would have been a very magnanimous gesture if
Speaker 2: when Donald Trump met with Joe Biden former President Trump
Speaker 2: met with President Biden at the White House, if Donald
Speaker 2: Trump said, look, I know you promised you wouldn't pardon
Speaker 2: your son. I'm going to take that burden off your
Speaker 2: shoulder and I will pardon him when I take off.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you think about that idea, but
Speaker 2: I think that for the good of the country that
Speaker 2: would have been a magnanimous gesture. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, what what good does it? Does? It to
Speaker 2: put Hunter Biden in jail for four months or or
Speaker 2: six months.
Speaker 10: Or or he'll be or he'll be called back up
Speaker 10: to Congress to testify and you know they'll they'll bring
Speaker 10: him back up there. Hey, how long do you think
Speaker 10: it's going to take Simon and Schuster to give that
Speaker 10: that Hunter Biden a fifty million dollar advance on a book.
Speaker 2: Uh, he won't get a fifty million dollar advance, but
Speaker 2: he might get an advance. The other thing, too, is
Speaker 2: that if it might give believe it or not, a
Speaker 2: pardon might give a congress more flexibility. He might not
Speaker 2: be able to invoke the Fifth Amendments. Once you have
Speaker 2: a pardon, you you don't have any you know, legal liability.
Speaker 2: So it could be that they could say to him, Look,
Speaker 2: we're going to contempt the Congress if you don't want
Speaker 2: to answer questions honestly because you you no longer have
Speaker 2: a Fifth Amendment right here, because you have a pardon covering,
Speaker 2: covering everything, and you can't be prosecuted anyway. So that's
Speaker 2: a that's an interesting aspect of it that no one
Speaker 2: else they think has really thought about.
Speaker 10: And well, I'm going to tell you, I don't think
Speaker 10: the Demo. I don't think the Democrats have heard the
Speaker 10: last of this story, and that there's so many angles
Speaker 10: out there. But yeah, the most of the news I
Speaker 10: heard today they were all saying the same thing as
Speaker 10: one of your one of your guests tonight. I was
Speaker 10: saying about you know, okay, so you got the gun charge,
Speaker 10: and you got the tax charge, and and then and
Speaker 10: then you go back to go all the way back
Speaker 10: to twenty fourteen, and twenty fourteen this happened to be
Speaker 10: the year that he got met he got hooked up
Speaker 10: with that Bearisma outfit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a coincidence.
Speaker 10: Bill, Well, there's no coincident, says Hey, listen, I I
Speaker 10: my own opinion is and as far as Hunter Biden, okay,
Speaker 10: I wish the best for the guy, but you know,
Speaker 10: this is just more enabling and and I'm of the
Speaker 10: opinion that uh, we're good or for bad.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 10: You know, he's he's been enabled for years and uh
Speaker 10: and when and when it when this happens. Uh, I
Speaker 10: know a little bit about this myself. But you know,
Speaker 10: when when you when you when you want to come
Speaker 10: clean and uh, and you get sober, you got to
Speaker 10: take the responsibility and and the other. The other thing is,
Speaker 10: you know, like I said, I wish them all the luck,
Speaker 10: but they're not doing the gain it favors by just
Speaker 10: enabling him all the time.
Speaker 2: It's true that you're absolutely correct on that. You're absolutely
Speaker 2: correct on that. But you know that maybe if if
Speaker 2: he's clean, has acted up, there will be no more,
Speaker 2: no more problems.
Speaker 10: We will see one more thing, Dan, I don't want
Speaker 10: to ever hear the Democrats anything about the second an
Speaker 10: Amendment and uh, who should have guns and who should
Speaker 10: not have guns? That's been taken off the table now.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think somehow that issue will be brought up again,
Speaker 2: but but it certainly this is something that they could
Speaker 2: be mentioned as a counterpoint. Hey Bill, I appreciate you call.
Speaker 2: Thank you much.
Speaker 10: I'd right back at you.
Speaker 2: Good night. Where we're gonna go next to Bob is
Speaker 2: in Hingham Massaeuset's Bobby next time?
Speaker 9: Night?
Speaker 11: Hey Dan, Hawaii. Dan, you're missing the big picture here, Okay,
Speaker 11: you're missing a big picture.
Speaker 2: Help me.
Speaker 11: He's not done he's not done with his pardon.
Speaker 2: I mentioned that there might be more.
Speaker 11: No, he just threw his Biden the kid out there
Speaker 11: because oh he's a good father. He's a good father.
Speaker 11: He was just he was his son for bag man.
Speaker 11: What kind of guy is that? Good father is saying
Speaker 11: on CBS. Good father. But he still got a potton
Speaker 11: the rest. Remember everybody in the family got money put
Speaker 11: in their account.
Speaker 2: Well that hasn't been proven in all in all honesty, Bob,
Speaker 2: I mean, I know.
Speaker 11: That there have been want them to stop going after that. Again,
Speaker 11: you don't want Congress doing that under Trump, So he
Speaker 11: has to pardon everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. I mean, I think it's real interesting.
Speaker 2: He's got a couple of brothers, and I know that
Speaker 2: there's been some questions about them. I don't know. The
Speaker 2: only one that I know has been convicted of something
Speaker 2: to be pardoned, uh is is the sun. Now, you're right,
Speaker 2: you can give pardons to people prematurely, even though they
Speaker 2: haven't been convicted. You can you can kind of in
Speaker 2: effect immunize them by saying, pardon, You're going to get
Speaker 2: your part against any crime that you may or may
Speaker 2: have committed. Yeah, but it'll be interesting. It will be.
Speaker 11: It has to be, because everybody got a piece the money.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well again I I you know I allowed that
Speaker 2: in counselor, but I want to just mention it that
Speaker 2: there's no proof of that as yet. There have been allegations.
Speaker 2: We do know that Hunter was convicted of having a
Speaker 2: gun as as an addict in possession of a gun
Speaker 2: and having lied in a federal form. Uh. And also
Speaker 2: tax evasion up to about one point four million dollars,
Speaker 2: which is a lot. A lot of people have been
Speaker 2: chased by the I R S for less than one
Speaker 2: point four million dollars.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you understand. He has to he has to protect
Speaker 11: his dad. He goes to jail. He's giving his father
Speaker 11: up going to jail.
Speaker 2: You know what I think Hunter, I think Hunter would.
Speaker 11: Probably have to put.
Speaker 2: I think Hunt would would be rolling into a few
Speaker 2: months in the slammer without without throwing his dad under
Speaker 2: the bus. I just had that feel.
Speaker 11: I don't, I don't. I ain't buying it. I ain't
Speaker 11: buying it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Bob, I appreciate the call. Interesting, interesting perspective. Next up,
Speaker 2: John is in boss than John, You're next on nights.
Speaker 6: I go ahead, Thanks, dan Uhering. Joe Biden said he
Speaker 6: was gonna knock, gonna pot his son in June, but
Speaker 6: he was actually in Normandy at the time talking to
Speaker 6: David Brea.
Speaker 2: There, Dan, that's here.
Speaker 6: He's on hallow ground where our soldiers died sacrifice their life.
Speaker 5: That's yeah.
Speaker 6: And I just say he's part of his His son
Speaker 6: had interactions with our enemies. He was getting money from
Speaker 6: communist China. He was involved in parbab possibly trees, this activity.
Speaker 6: And here's Joe Biden, President United States on Normandy. Where
Speaker 6: are there were guys from in Massachusetts. Again, I know
Speaker 6: personally that fought there on Omaha Beach in places, and
Speaker 6: and he's lying Normany. He's lied to us when he
Speaker 6: talked about the fifty one intelligence ages during the debate.
Speaker 6: But he knew the laptop was real, and the intelligence
Speaker 6: agents said that it was a Russian uh disinformation.
Speaker 2: They were just to be accurate. What I think what
Speaker 2: that statement said, and I can go back and research
Speaker 2: it was that the laptop story. I think they used
Speaker 2: a phrase like has all the ear marks of Russian disinformation.
Speaker 2: They they sort of couched it a little bit, They
Speaker 2: were cute about it. They left the implication that it
Speaker 2: was You're correct that it was Russian misinformation. But the
Speaker 2: phrase that they used was it had the ear marks.
Speaker 2: I believe that's the phrase they used. I got to
Speaker 2: go back and look at that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's their powers you did. That's their injectioncy in
Speaker 6: case someone calls them on it, Well.
Speaker 2: No, I get it. Yeah, yeah, but I just wanted
Speaker 2: to just just was trying to correct the record.
Speaker 6: That's all John, You know me, Oh, I know, Jean,
Speaker 6: i'ld pregion that it's just fits. There's always the story
Speaker 6: behind the s. And then it was with the two
Speaker 6: Marines when he gave a speech to the country and
Speaker 6: call Mago white supremacy and this and that and here's
Speaker 6: hunter Hunter. Biden is a postal boy for white privilege.
Speaker 6: I mean, Kamala Harris has been luxuring us about how
Speaker 6: racist we are. What a you know that Donald Trump
Speaker 6: and that the Maga Patti.
Speaker 2: A We'll remember. Kamala Harris also lectured Joe Biden about
Speaker 2: his his support for his opposition to court ordered bussing.
Speaker 6: Through the debate with them.
Speaker 2: I know that's so you know that that term gets
Speaker 2: thrown around fairly liberally.
Speaker 6: There's so many black men in jail now for carrying
Speaker 6: a gundan his hunter. He gets pardoned, and Kamala is
Speaker 6: lecturing us on fairness and occlusion at equity. Where's the
Speaker 6: fairness with him getting uh?
Speaker 9: Well, you know what.
Speaker 2: About how many how many black men and black women
Speaker 2: were prosecuted when she was the Attorney General of California, uh,
Speaker 2: for marijuana possession and ended up doing time in jail
Speaker 2: when she basically was laughing about it, that that she
Speaker 2: was a toker too, you know, so.
Speaker 6: I mean, and then she was implying, I believe also
Speaker 6: that they were gonna, uh make it easier for or
Speaker 6: trying to appeal to black men as far as either
Speaker 6: getting marijuana or the charges. During the campaign, there was
Speaker 6: some issue about that, I remember exactly, but there was
Speaker 6: something about that, as though she's appealing to black men
Speaker 6: that they you know, that they got to ease on,
Speaker 6: ease up on making marijuana easy or available or something
Speaker 6: to that. But thought of mine isn't Our country was
Speaker 6: founded so that it wouldn't be the entitlement of kings.
Speaker 6: The common man would have the same rights as the king.
Speaker 6: And here now we see it all over again. Now
Speaker 6: we get the increment of the president's son who's committed
Speaker 6: serious crime. Just ask wheny Babolenski, who bull the whistle
Speaker 6: on that? And Uh, it's gonna be real interesting to
Speaker 6: see what comes out there, because he's got definitely special privileges.
Speaker 6: And I thought the one that really gets me, he's
Speaker 6: in Normandy say he's not gonna parton his son, and
Speaker 6: that's on hallow ground.
Speaker 2: Yep. I had not thought of that point. John, You
Speaker 2: brought an added dimension to the to the to the problem,
Speaker 2: to the fora varication, I won't use the word lie.
Speaker 2: I'll use the word pervarication, okay, which is a synonym
Speaker 2: for lie. John, appreciate you call. It was a good one.
Speaker 2: Thank you, good night, Okay, get a bunch of lines here, Okay,
Speaker 2: we need callers to finish it up. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: If you want to defend what Joe Biden did, bring
Speaker 2: it on, if you want to criticize it, you're more
Speaker 2: than welcome. My question is the thing that bothers me
Speaker 2: most is not I can understand that as a father,
Speaker 2: he might have decided I'm going to do this, but
Speaker 2: he never should have lied in June because he didn't say.
Speaker 8: It.
Speaker 2: You know, I have no intention or I am not
Speaker 2: of the mindset to even consider talking about this question. No,
Speaker 2: he said he would not pardon. It was a good
Speaker 2: question from David Muir, good question from the other reporters,
Speaker 2: and that's now part of his legacy. It's sad. Almost
Speaker 2: six thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: We got about thirteen minutes left to up. Mike and
Speaker 2: Beverly coming up, feel free to join the conversation. I
Speaker 2: know it's the end of a holiday weekend here, but
Speaker 2: let's have a quick little rally. Give us a call
Speaker 2: coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 8: Now back to Dan Ray Mike from the Window World
Speaker 8: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We got four callers. We're gonna get them all in.
Speaker 2: Let's start with Mike and Beverley. Mike next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Hey, good name Dan, hy Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yes? Sir? Go right ahead?
Speaker 4: Oh right, Hi, every Thanksgiving to Howe. We had a
Speaker 4: great vacation.
Speaker 5: Good to have you back.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm just surprised he gaped out of that.
Speaker 4: Not much about that situation, and there was a reporter
Speaker 4: of this Morning that his wife was pressuring him during
Speaker 4: the holiday time to do this situation. You know, one
Speaker 4: time that people are not talking about Dan, which we
Speaker 4: should talking about. And the lady of Master, he's just
Speaker 4: doing time right now from protest, saying outside of the
Speaker 4: abortion place right now, the elderly lady right now, you
Speaker 4: know here he is wiping. Uh, how does.
Speaker 6: Clean I get that?
Speaker 2: But Mike, let me just say this, first of all,
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with that case. A lot of times
Speaker 2: in a situation, someone is out there protesting, the police
Speaker 2: will say, hey, look, you're protesting too close to the building.
Speaker 2: You got to move away, and the person refuses, so
Speaker 2: they get arrested, not for protesting, but they get arrested
Speaker 2: for protesting too close to the building. So without having
Speaker 2: the case in front LA, I really don't want to
Speaker 2: mix mix the cases up. I think that I think
Speaker 2: that the the president basically looking into the camera and
Speaker 2: in my opinion, lying in June and as John said
Speaker 2: in Normandy on some pretty hallowed ground and now turning
Speaker 2: around and pardoning his son, I think that's that's the
Speaker 2: shame of it. In my opinion.
Speaker 4: Oh definitely.
Speaker 12: Oh it definitely is he was. I've been talking about
Speaker 12: that for a long time. He wasn't gonna do it,
Speaker 12: but everyone knew. I mean, you just you just gas
Speaker 12: out of the gass. No tomorrow, why I just come
Speaker 12: clean to save him? The geck you're gonna do that.
Speaker 2: He could have said, look at this point in time,
Speaker 2: but I'll have to look at it later. But no,
Speaker 2: he he looked in the camera and line and that's
Speaker 2: that's going to be a mark on his on his
Speaker 2: time in office. Mike, I appreciate you calling a good night,
Speaker 2: Thanks friend, Thank you very much. Jeff and Whittman. Gonna
Speaker 2: get Jeff and Jim and Rick both in. Go all in,
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jeff.
Speaker 10: Hey, My opinion on it would be, I think this
Speaker 10: is all. If he did go through with being the candidate,
Speaker 10: he would have helped us up. But I think this
Speaker 10: is just like everything else, the convention, the missiles, that
Speaker 10: the party told him to stand down, so he's like, Okay,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna twist the knife a little back to you guys.
Speaker 10: So that's my opinion on it that if he was
Speaker 10: the candidate still, he probably would have kept on with Yeah,
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna parton them.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's assume let's play it out if he won,
Speaker 2: if he was the candidate and he won, and now
Speaker 2: he's gonna leave off is because you know he's well, no,
Speaker 2: he's got four more years. Let's say, is he gonna
Speaker 2: let him go to jail? Or will he pardon him
Speaker 2: and say, hey.
Speaker 10: I just know I'm not saying that if he won.
Speaker 10: I'm saying if the party allowed him to continue being
Speaker 10: the candidate. I think this is just another string of
Speaker 10: things that he's going. I'm gonna turn the knife back
Speaker 10: to you guys, because okay, I got you.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got you, I got your point. Okay, interesting, interesting,
Speaker 2: different take. Jeff, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Thanks, have great night, good night.
Speaker 2: Let me say good night to Jeff. Here go, let's
Speaker 2: go next to Jim Is in Boston. I got room
Speaker 2: for Jim and then Rick and over. Go ahead, Jim.
Speaker 7: Hey, oh I Dan, good to talk with you. I
Speaker 7: disagree with the white privilege, you know. I think it's
Speaker 7: more presidential privilege and uh that he's making you know,
Speaker 7: so it has nothing to do with that with the
Speaker 7: Globe said beast fact that I find it kind of
Speaker 7: up scene. But let's trot that. But what I think was,
Speaker 7: uh that I falled uh for the last ten years
Speaker 7: of the news and everything, you know, I think that
Speaker 7: it was, uh, it was a crime family there, and
Speaker 7: I and I knew back even what he was lying,
Speaker 7: that he was not let his son get in uh
Speaker 7: any kind of trouble because the son could uh you know,
Speaker 7: take him down with him. Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2: I honestly don't think that. I think Hunter Biden. I
Speaker 2: don't think Hunter would throw Dad under the bus. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, I could be wrong.
Speaker 7: But you know, yeah, well, well to save his own
Speaker 7: skin if the father wasn't going to save his skin
Speaker 7: because going on there, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty closely tight knit family. And
Speaker 2: even if if Joe said to him, look, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to destroy my legacy. You're gonna have to do
Speaker 2: four months in the can, I think he probably would
Speaker 2: have done it and and got out. You know, I
Speaker 2: mean they might be.
Speaker 7: We'll never know, you know what they were saying, it's
Speaker 7: not over yet because uh, there'll be a lot of
Speaker 7: civil action possibly taken, and well.
Speaker 2: Yea that possibility, but also you have other other bidens
Speaker 2: and what is this the last commutation. I don't know,
Speaker 2: we'll see, we will.
Speaker 7: See, like a it's a tragedy that you know, and
Speaker 7: in the end, it seems like the devil gets his due.
Speaker 2: I guess. So it's always the way. Hey, thanks, Jim,
Speaker 2: appreciate you call a good one. Next up, last of
Speaker 2: the night, Rick and Dover, you finish this up, Go
Speaker 2: right ahead.
Speaker 13: Rick, Hey, Dan, I just I was wondering on it
Speaker 13: seems like everybody's being kind of a what do you
Speaker 13: call two fasted on this to me? Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: I hear you? Go right, I'm listening to you. Go ahead.
Speaker 13: Well, I mean the guy, okay, he lied or he
Speaker 13: changed his mind one time, maybe ten times. I remember
Speaker 13: listening to these fact checkers and they seem to say
Speaker 13: Trump lied like thirty thousand times.
Speaker 2: Well, name me one lie that that was more bold
Speaker 2: faced someone we started the program tonight. Name me a
Speaker 2: lie that the Trump that you can quote quote Trump
Speaker 2: on which which even comes close to this.
Speaker 13: When he calls our American venteran suckers and losers, Well.
Speaker 2: He's he's always denied that. And I gotta be honest
Speaker 2: with you, if he if he had stood, if he
Speaker 2: had stood in front of a TV camera or sat
Speaker 2: in front of a TV camera and said, you know,
Speaker 2: these guys were were suckers and losers, and it was
Speaker 2: on tape. There's no way he would have been re
Speaker 2: elected and this is on tape.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'll carry I mean whatever I mean. I think
Speaker 13: thirty thousand lines kind of add up to more than
Speaker 13: one line.
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is no one has listed them for
Speaker 2: me them at least why five brill million times? I mean,
Speaker 2: tell me what they are. Hey, Rick, I wish you
Speaker 2: called earlier. Call again and we can have a longer conversation. Okay, thanks, Yeah,
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