Speaker 1: I assume every team is going there that way. That's
Speaker 1: why athletics is beautiful, is because you know it gets
Speaker 1: that pure. At the end of the day, you're either
Speaker 1: going to go win or you're not, and it matters.
Speaker 2: Mark Pope's attitude is slightly different from the guy he
Speaker 2: replaced at Kentucky. We'll talk about that today on the
Speaker 2: Big Blue and Sider Welcome to the BBI. Coming up
Speaker 2: a little bit later on, we're going to talk to
Speaker 2: Kentucky football as well with Van Hiles, the former Kentucky
Speaker 2: d back who breaks down UK football.
Speaker 3: On the interweb.
Speaker 2: Jeff Pikoro the UK Radio Network. We'll talk both football
Speaker 2: and Kentucky basketball with him. Drew Diener from ESPN Radio
Speaker 2: six point eighty over in Louisville. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: get his thoughts and Drew, of course formerly with a
Speaker 2: UK network, work with us over at WKYT for several years.
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to get his take on what's
Speaker 2: going on with U of L right now. I got
Speaker 2: to wonder, as Kentucky and Louisville, are they going to
Speaker 2: end up in the same bracket?
Speaker 3: You never know. It'd be kind of cool if they did.
Speaker 3: But Anyhow, it's been a fun season over at u
Speaker 3: of L, just as it has been here at UK.
Speaker 2: We're also gonna check in on Heroes, fools and flakes
Speaker 2: coming up a little bit later on. But I've got
Speaker 2: to start with Mark Pope for obvious reasons. Big game
Speaker 2: tomorrow at Missouri, Every game big now you're playing. It's
Speaker 2: gonna wrap up the regular season, but every win matters
Speaker 2: because of seeding and bracketing and the SEC Tournament and
Speaker 2: the NCAA is Kentucky's in good shape right now in
Speaker 2: the SEC tournament. Look, you're gonna have to get through
Speaker 2: Auburn at some point, but get as far as you can,
Speaker 2: win as many as you can and help yourself in
Speaker 2: the eyes of the selections committee, which probably already has
Speaker 2: a pretty good idea of where the Wildcats will end up.
Speaker 2: And I bring up Pope and previous management, and I
Speaker 2: haven't spent a whole lot of time this year comparing
Speaker 2: in contrasting Kentucky and Arkansas. That gets a little tiresome.
Speaker 3: At first.
Speaker 2: You wanted to see how things were going. Would have
Speaker 2: been more interesting if Arkansas I hadn't flopped this year
Speaker 2: under Caliperi. Although Interestingly enough, they've played better without Boogie
Speaker 2: Flan without their best player. Gonna knock on the kid
Speaker 2: just forced everybody to kind of step up and balance
Speaker 2: things out. And maybe that's what happens minus Jackson Robinson
Speaker 2: with Kentucky. Now that they know they don't have him,
Speaker 2: they just move on and do the best they can.
Speaker 2: You know, they love him, he's their teammate, he's their friend.
Speaker 2: But you know he's not coming back. He's not coming
Speaker 2: through that door. Nieders Kirk Cree said, we knew that,
Speaker 2: but I just love the fact that Mark Pope when
Speaker 2: he got there, he said, we know what the assignment
Speaker 2: is and he made it a point to bring up
Speaker 2: the SEC championship because it was important to him, his coach,
Speaker 2: his teammates. And I've said the Caliperi made two big
Speaker 2: mistakes when he got here as far as the fan
Speaker 2: base is concerned, and you know what they are when
Speaker 2: he said that having five players taken in the first
Speaker 2: round of the NBA Draft was the most important night
Speaker 2: in UK basketball history, and it was totally It was
Speaker 2: all for recruiting purposes, but he never tried hard and
Speaker 2: in my opinion, to walk it back. He kind of
Speaker 2: did toward the end of his stay, but not nearly
Speaker 2: hard enough. And then when he always downplay we don't
Speaker 2: really care and I'm paraphrasing about winning the SEC. Well,
Speaker 2: your fan base doesn't feel that way. It's an extremely
Speaker 2: important point of pride for UK fans, especially the folks
Speaker 2: who have followed Kentucky for the longest time. Look, you're
Speaker 2: only going to win an NCAA championship once every ten
Speaker 2: or twelve years, right when your conference have something to
Speaker 2: celebrate and Caliperi did win I think six SEC tournaments,
Speaker 2: and every time he did, his players went crazy celebrating.
Speaker 2: That cannot be lost on you. Mark Pope knows that
Speaker 2: feeling now as a senior. He didn't win an SEC
Speaker 2: tournament total Mississippi State did. But I love the answer
Speaker 2: he gave Lee K. Howard about his question, was, you know,
Speaker 2: just basically about the importance of the SEC.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes in this culture, in this environment, with
Speaker 1: all the things going around, there's so much right and
Speaker 1: and and I could say this much more eloquently, but like,
Speaker 1: let's not forget this is about winning. Like we're here
Speaker 1: to win. We do all this work to win, and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's like, that's why we're here, is
Speaker 1: to go win, especially the University Kentucky. There's nothing less
Speaker 1: than that. It's acceptable. And so you know, the the
Speaker 1: you know, social media stuff and the NIL and the
Speaker 1: transfer Borto and the professional and and all the things
Speaker 1: are great. But but you know, we should never be
Speaker 1: distracted by the fact that like that is not the
Speaker 1: end goal. The end goal is to win. The end
Speaker 1: goal is to raise a trophy and hang a banner.
Speaker 1: That's the end goal. And and so we're here now,
Speaker 1: we've gone through this season, We've been through everything we've
Speaker 1: been through, and we've grown in all the ways that
Speaker 1: we could grow as fast as we could possibly grow.
Speaker 1: And now we're at the final stages where it's time
Speaker 1: to win. Like you're either gonna win or you're not.
Speaker 1: And that's not to be paralyzed by fear or crushed
Speaker 1: by expectations. It's just time to recognize that you know,
Speaker 1: what you've worked for for the last six months and
Speaker 1: for your whole lifetime is actually right now. It's not
Speaker 1: the other stuff in the future of the past or wherever.
Speaker 1: It's right now. And so this SEC tournament matters it's
Speaker 1: the best league maybe that's ever been in any uh,
Speaker 1: you know, in any year of college basketball, and this
Speaker 1: SEC matters, and and so we're heading to Nashville with
Speaker 1: all of our successes and confidence and warts and holes
Speaker 1: that we got to plug, and we're going there to
Speaker 1: to with with one goal, which is to go win.
Speaker 2: Kyle Perry, it was almost like he was sending a
Speaker 2: message to the SEC and the NCAA, Oh, this tournament
Speaker 2: doesn't matter because it doesn't help us with the seeding
Speaker 2: and the bracketing.
Speaker 3: LA.
Speaker 2: You know that's probably true when it comes to championships Sunday,
Speaker 2: and if Kentucky's playing the two or three seed, you
Speaker 2: already know where those teams are gonna be bracketed. So
Speaker 2: winning the tournament doesn't help you in the Yes, we
Speaker 2: know this, we know that the bracketing's probably done for
Speaker 2: the most part by Friday. But he brought it up
Speaker 2: every year, and it got really tiresome, and I just
Speaker 2: got really sick and tired of it.
Speaker 3: Plus I hate the fact that he was.
Speaker 2: Telling Kentucky fans, we don't really care, which implies I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna do everything I can with my team to
Speaker 2: win this tournament. I thought that was a big mistake
Speaker 2: by John Caliperry and that's why there was such a disconnect.
Speaker 2: The losing didn't help, but such a disconnect between him
Speaker 2: and the fans by the time he left here. So
Speaker 2: will Kentucky win the tournament? I odds are against him,
Speaker 2: but it's not impossible. Just got to make shots and
Speaker 2: get a couple of breaks and it could happened. You
Speaker 2: know who else won SEC tournaments was Rick Pattino and
Speaker 2: if you followed him so far this year, you know
Speaker 2: they won the Big East. Well last night the victors
Speaker 2: grab some spoils. Rick Patino appears on The Jimmy Fallon Show.
Speaker 2: The Tonight Show Last Night with Jimmy Fallon, and the
Speaker 2: first thing Fallon did was present a video parody. It
Speaker 2: was somebody wrote a sea shanty basically, and there was
Speaker 2: Fallon in a red cable Nitz turtleneck sweater and a
Speaker 2: tuk a red cap singing about the Saint John's Red
Speaker 2: Storm and the Saint John's players appeared in the video
Speaker 2: lip syncing the song, and who pops up at the
Speaker 2: end in the white suit that he wore when they
Speaker 2: played Yukon and Fallon had changed. They had changed in
Speaker 2: from the red sweater to the white, same white suit.
Speaker 2: Rick Pattino side by side with Jimmy Fallon lip syncing
Speaker 2: a sea shanty. Here's a little bit of it from NBC.
Speaker 4: Once was the squad from Jamaica Queens that went by
Speaker 4: the name of New York's team, the Garden at Sugar
Speaker 4: and depends, they roar, let's go Saint John's Red Storm, soony,
Speaker 4: the Red Storm.
Speaker 5: Come to rock therim and make a run. One day
Speaker 5: when the winning is.
Speaker 6: Done, we'll cut the nets and go.
Speaker 3: Google it and you'll find it if you want to watch.
Speaker 3: All things really well done.
Speaker 2: And as I said, Patino appears at the end, and
Speaker 2: I just kept thinking, man, this guy would never have
Speaker 2: done that when he was the head coach at Kentucky.
Speaker 2: He was so tightly wound when he was here, and
Speaker 2: he had a huge job ahead of him. Of course
Speaker 2: I had a huge job ahead of him at Saint John's.
Speaker 2: But just like he has done everywhere he's gone, he
Speaker 2: is successful in a second season. And if you if
Speaker 2: you haven't seen the documentary series, it's it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: But I bring this up and I know a lot
Speaker 2: of you like, what are we talking about Patino?
Speaker 7: Why?
Speaker 3: Because r Pope.
Speaker 2: Has very in a gentlemanly manner, very gently as he
Speaker 2: does things handled questions on his coaches show in from
Speaker 2: the media that have basically been well shrouded questions essentially,
Speaker 2: why don't you coach more like Patino? People have called
Speaker 2: in or media folks have asked him about some of
Speaker 2: the things that he learned playing under Rick, and that
Speaker 2: they're successful now for Patino, and it's front and center
Speaker 2: Rick now, I mean, he's national headlines again as he
Speaker 2: was a Kentucky more so now because he's in New
Speaker 2: York and he's got a good team and Patino's right.
Speaker 2: They don't shoot well, they score enough, and they guard
Speaker 2: like hell, they really do. But he is Rick Battino,
Speaker 2: and you know you hear a little bit. The Fallon
Speaker 2: played a clip from the documentary series last night, The
Speaker 2: Whole Life's Gonna be a Pirsity?
Speaker 6: Why doing it?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, everyone send that clip today.
Speaker 9: He went all over the place.
Speaker 4: And who ended up winning that game?
Speaker 6: We lost by twenty No, no, you won the game,
Speaker 6: that's exactly.
Speaker 10: And you were down.
Speaker 2: That clip is courtesy of NBC and the Vice Channel,
Speaker 2: But again, it's Potino being Patino, and I firmly believe
Speaker 2: that he's mellowed. He's changed a bit, I would hope so,
Speaker 2: but he's still fiery and profane. But he's Rick Patino.
Speaker 2: Mark Pope is not. And Pope has to be true
Speaker 2: to himself. And you might recall this, but earlier this
Speaker 2: season he admitted that he tried doing that, not exactly
Speaker 2: aping Patino, you know, step for step, but he tried
Speaker 2: to be more of the you know, in your face
Speaker 2: kind of coach, and he said it just didn't work
Speaker 2: for him. So if you accept Mark Pope and he
Speaker 2: doesn't need me to carry his water, But if you
Speaker 2: accept Mark Pope and you and you enjoy what he
Speaker 2: does and how he does it, you got to buy in.
Speaker 2: And people, you know, you can call his radio show
Speaker 2: and ask him whatever you want. But don't be surprised
Speaker 2: if he just basically says, I gotta be me and
Speaker 2: Patino's got to be Patino. And there are things that
Speaker 2: Pope took away from him, but he also talks about
Speaker 2: how he took away so much from Coach Bird.
Speaker 3: He played for Larry Bird in Indiana.
Speaker 2: George Carl who's an in your face coach Larry Bird
Speaker 2: was not but it's all about what are they talking about,
Speaker 2: not how they're saying it, So I thought you might
Speaker 2: enjoy that.
Speaker 3: You'll hear more of that sea shanty a little bit
Speaker 3: later on.
Speaker 2: Up next, Charles Barkley is added again feuding with an
Speaker 2: ESPN NBA analyst. That's all ahead on six thirty WLAP
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Big Moonsider. Coming up in a
Speaker 2: few minutes, Van Hiles.
Speaker 3: Former football Wildcat. We'll talk about what's up with Mark
Speaker 3: stoopsbaw club going into the spring. We're also going to talk.
Speaker 2: About the Combine because boy Maxwell Harrison showed out really
Speaker 2: well when it came to the forty and Dion Walker
Speaker 2: was able to get out there and show what he
Speaker 2: can do. So we'll get draft Van's thoughts on it.
Speaker 2: He was drafted by the Bears in the fifth round,
Speaker 2: but Van was a little banged up going in to
Speaker 2: the drafts and we'll find out more about that and
Speaker 2: why he didn't get to play longer in the NFL.
Speaker 2: It's all kind of tied together. Some of the things
Speaker 2: that are happening around the NFL though, have me excited
Speaker 2: because just on a personal note, the Seahawks say they
Speaker 2: will trade DK Metcalf if they can get the right deal.
Speaker 2: And I'm excited because my Green Bay Packers apparently at
Speaker 2: least war in the picture. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: still are, but yeah, anybody could use a Dk Metcalf.
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who when he was playing
Speaker 2: at Ole Miss he hurt the Wildcats back in the day.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's exciting if you're a Packers fan. It's
Speaker 2: been exciting around the NBA if for Norther reason. Charles
Speaker 2: Barkley has spoken again. Charles Barkley, you know, on the
Speaker 2: TNT studio show, speaks his mind. He's honest. I am
Speaker 2: a huge fan of his. I listened to the podcast
Speaker 2: he does. But Ernie Johnson is called The steam Room.
Speaker 3: I commend you to that. It's terrific.
Speaker 2: And it's not just strictly sports, not just strictly NBA.
Speaker 2: They cover a wide range of things, but it's really
Speaker 2: really entertaining. They do not talk much about politics, thankfully,
Speaker 2: but he was on the air the other night and
Speaker 2: he took a swipe at ESPN and as he pointed out, honestly, rightly,
Speaker 2: they're all gonna be working somehow, for ESPN next year.
Speaker 2: All the guys, I don't know if Ernie Johnson's going,
Speaker 2: but Shaq and Kenny to Jet Smith and Barkley are
Speaker 2: going over. And Barkley took issue with something one of
Speaker 2: the ESPN he an NBA analyst, said a former player,
Speaker 2: and he calls him out here just going nuts about
Speaker 2: the Lakers and the Warriors and how well they're playing.
Speaker 2: And it went beyond that, and it just kind of
Speaker 2: drove Sir Charles crazy.
Speaker 7: I saw a food idiot on TV talking about the Lakers,
Speaker 7: save the NBA, Save the NBA. Yeah, yeah, he's an idiot,
Speaker 7: the food, but he know he is. What's his name,
Speaker 7: Shack which when you're talking about Kendrick Perkins. Oh, he
Speaker 7: said the Lakers. First of all, the Lakers have had
Speaker 7: a great two weeks, he said, the Lakers, save the
Speaker 7: NBA season. That's about them. Foods on the other network,
Speaker 7: which we're gonna be working for next year, that's all
Speaker 7: they talk about. Let me tell y'all something. And first
Speaker 7: of all, I want all the smoke. I don't see
Speaker 7: what's the when I walked by the graveyard or anything
Speaker 7: like that. I don't whistle what I want by the
Speaker 7: graz like that man still in that one. The Lakers
Speaker 7: are doing great, got a long way to go. But
Speaker 7: the reason the season has been going great for the
Speaker 7: Cleveland Cavaliers and the Oklahoma City of Thunder, y'all just
Speaker 7: want to talk about the Warriors and the Lakers. They're
Speaker 7: bull I'm doing great, don't get me wrong. If I
Speaker 7: turn out to be wrong, I got no problem with that.
Speaker 7: But idiots, because y'all talk about the Lakers and the
Speaker 7: Wars all the time. Y'all know Cleveland Kevin has won
Speaker 7: twelve straight games. So Oklahoma City got the MVP and
Speaker 7: they all own fire, y'all will talk about who's in
Speaker 7: second place. That's the reason I get pissed.
Speaker 3: Right on the money.
Speaker 2: And I'm not a Kendrick Hayter, I mean, and he
Speaker 2: fired back at Barkley, called him old man or old
Speaker 2: or something and some other stuff.
Speaker 3: But Barkley's not wrong.
Speaker 2: Once again, it's ESPN pushing the brands that they want
Speaker 2: to push. And I'm sure it's got so much to
Speaker 2: do with ratings, because Cleveland's not going to get you
Speaker 2: a lot of ratings when you talk about them and
Speaker 2: show them neiders Oklahoma City. But and yeah, I know
Speaker 2: the Lakers and Warriors on the West Coast obviously, but
Speaker 2: they're the glamour brands right now and it have been
Speaker 2: for quite a while in the NBA, So it's a
Speaker 2: little bit dising if indeed, and I believe Barkley, I
Speaker 2: don't watch nearly as much NBA coverage as a lot
Speaker 2: of people do, but I don't doubt that they're pushing
Speaker 2: that narrative because look and Colin Coward when he was
Speaker 2: with the ESPN, he's with Fox now. He addressed the
Speaker 2: complaints about ESPN going overboard with Red Sox Yankees, especially
Speaker 2: when they play each other, and he said, our research
Speaker 2: shows that that's what people want to talk about when
Speaker 2: they hear about I want to see. Well, yeah, those
Speaker 2: are two massive media markets, and they have fans all
Speaker 2: over the country, but there are fans all over the
Speaker 2: country who don't care.
Speaker 3: As much about them.
Speaker 2: But they, as you kids like to say, move the needle.
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate sir Charles. And this happened a
Speaker 2: couple of nights ago and Kendrick Perkins fired back at him,
Speaker 2: so and again you got to give Barkley credit. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the hand that's about to feed him, and he
Speaker 2: took a big bite at it.
Speaker 3: While we're on the NBA.
Speaker 2: Though, Iron Eagle, who I know him, just just a
Speaker 2: tiny bit just to say hello, had him on the
Speaker 2: show a while back. He is so great and he's
Speaker 2: gonna be the voice of the Final Four this year
Speaker 2: for CBS. His day job essentially is the TV voice of.
Speaker 3: The Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 2: And they had the Warriors last night and Steph Curry,
Speaker 2: as the half was winding down, took a hand off
Speaker 2: from Jimmy Butler and Curry's feet were almost in the
Speaker 2: Brooklyn logo near mid court, and he whirled and threw
Speaker 2: up a shot. This is how Iron Eagle called it.
Speaker 3: Butler doubts it's Curry shit towed. Steph Curry is not
Speaker 3: humid baby.
Speaker 2: One of the many, many reasons I really really like
Speaker 2: Iron Eagle, and I think he'll do a tremendous job.
Speaker 2: And as I told him when he came through town,
Speaker 2: it might have been last year he had just been named.
Speaker 2: As Jim Nantz was stepping away from the Final Four,
Speaker 2: I said, hey, congrats, he said thank you. I said
Speaker 2: it's about time, and he thanked me again. So one
Speaker 2: other note, before we hit the break. Michigan State wins
Speaker 2: the Big Ten regular season title last night by beating
Speaker 2: Iowa ninety one to eighty four. Another championship for tom Izzo,
Speaker 2: but it was Michigan State's first conference title since twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: They got to share when Michigan lost to Maryland and
Speaker 2: then last night won at Outright, I bring it up agains.
Speaker 2: Michigan State is a team that could do some damage
Speaker 2: in the upcoming NCAA tournament. Tom Izzo also has been
Speaker 2: on this show. This is back when Martin Newton was
Speaker 2: on with me every week, so Martin secured him as
Speaker 2: a high profile guest as a friend of Martin's and
Speaker 2: a guy who was interested in the Kentucky job more
Speaker 2: than once, but the timing didn't work out. Might have
Speaker 2: been interesting if tom Izzo and landed in lexingon, but
Speaker 2: a Hall of famer and a legend for SPARTI well
Speaker 2: come back and talk to Van Hiles, the former Kentucky
Speaker 2: dB who covers UK football on the interweb Spring Football Underway.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the combine as well here on six
Speaker 2: thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moonsider, joining us
Speaker 2: now one of our favorite guests, and I hope he's
Speaker 2: one of your faves by now. Van Styles V Styles
Speaker 2: seventeen is his handle. He is a co host of
Speaker 2: The Locker four to one one, host of Driving with Styles,
Speaker 2: former wild Well, once a Wildcat, always a wildcat, and
Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit of basketball and
Speaker 2: track with Van.
Speaker 3: But first, Van, first of all, are you doing okay?
Speaker 2: Because you're kind of between football season and spring football.
Speaker 2: I know you're keeping busy, but are you hanging in there?
Speaker 11: I am hanging in there. This is actually my favorite
Speaker 11: time of year. Yes, I'm a I'm a track junkie.
Speaker 11: I am. I'm honestly a track guy who played football,
Speaker 11: not possiway around. So there's track season, it's March madness,
Speaker 11: it's softball baseball season. It is the best time of
Speaker 11: year for me.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, that's good. I'm glad to hear that. Uh Well,
Speaker 3: let me ask you first.
Speaker 2: It's it's combine season, obviously, and uh you were drafted
Speaker 2: by the Bears. You were poked in product I guess,
Speaker 2: and interviewed and all that. Did you enjoy that process?
Speaker 11: No, it's the worst, And honestly to me, it's it's
Speaker 11: too close to the end of the season. I actually
Speaker 11: had a torn label and I wasn't as prepared for
Speaker 11: the combine as I probably should. And I wasn't supposed
Speaker 11: to run. My agent said, don't run. We haven't ran
Speaker 11: enough because I was dealing with my shoulder. But but
Speaker 11: mine naives got peer pressure and I ran in the
Speaker 11: effected my draft stock the amount of so for me
Speaker 11: with my shoulder. Instead of just one doctor like working
Speaker 11: on looking at it, every team that was interested in
Speaker 11: me had to work on my shoulder. So my shoulder
Speaker 11: was worked on like fifteen different times.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Mean it was examined or did they do what happened?
Speaker 11: Yes, it was an examined. So just just think about it.
Speaker 11: You know, I needed surgery. I opted not to have surgery,
Speaker 11: and I did and I had this physical therapy to
Speaker 11: make it better. Well, it's fine for the range of
Speaker 11: motion once or twice or maybe three times, so when
Speaker 11: you get to that tenth eleven, then it starts feeling
Speaker 11: bad and and they work on I mean, your your
Speaker 11: injury report is public, I guess to the NFL, so
Speaker 11: the ankles, the whatever they examined every past injury that
Speaker 11: I had.
Speaker 3: Wow, well, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, it's you're an investment to them. But oh for sure,
Speaker 2: if they see you as damaged goods coming in, they're
Speaker 2: gonna lose interest in you way too quickly, aren't they exactly?
Speaker 11: And I, honestly I had no problem with it, But
Speaker 11: why have Why can't that be one general you know,
Speaker 11: one doctor Andrews who who examines everybody or every tent guy,
Speaker 11: and then that one examination is populated to all thirty
Speaker 11: two teams. That that was the issue with it? Just
Speaker 11: come on, man, this is this is insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm sorry that it was. It was like
Speaker 2: that for you because that was a life's dream for you.
Speaker 2: Wasn't being drafted?
Speaker 11: Oh for sure it look it when you when you
Speaker 11: get when you're in the moment. I'll never forget the
Speaker 11: moment of draft day. I was extremely disappointed, extremely frustrated,
Speaker 11: all the negativity that you can think of for someone
Speaker 11: who I was really fly like a third round just
Speaker 11: to drop to the fifth. But then when you get
Speaker 11: to your forty to your fifty, like, all right, there's
Speaker 11: a lot of guys who never even had a chance,
Speaker 11: a lot of guys who didn't get drafted. So you
Speaker 11: start realizing how how much of a blessing it is
Speaker 11: the longer you are away from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you've got a lot of guys living your
Speaker 2: dream right now, Dion Walker. What about Maxwell Harriston, a
Speaker 2: fellow d back ran the fastest time first position.
Speaker 3: That had to make you feel pretty good.
Speaker 11: Here's the thing with the combine and why they do
Speaker 11: it is does your tape match your combined numbers? His
Speaker 11: tate matches his combine numbers. So with that said, he
Speaker 11: is going. That elevates him because there's always a question
Speaker 11: mark of easy that Sazz's he really that ad job,
Speaker 11: He's really that good out of breaks. When they're able
Speaker 11: to see it live in a person, when their GMS
Speaker 11: and scouts and decently coordinator DV coaches there, it really
Speaker 11: makes everyone excited. So he definitely jumped up on a
Speaker 11: lot of boards. I'm not sure if he's how high
Speaker 11: he jumped up, but he definitely has a possibility of
Speaker 11: definitely going late first, definitely early second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he's proven he can do the job, he
Speaker 2: can play the position.
Speaker 3: I know he's got a lot.
Speaker 2: To learn though, when you talk about what he needs
Speaker 2: to learn, what do young guys like him moving into
Speaker 2: the NFL and you learn under fire.
Speaker 3: What kind of things does he need to learn?
Speaker 11: It's every day everybody NFL was followed the best player
Speaker 11: on their team, at least top two or three players
Speaker 11: on their team. So there's nowhere to hide. You're going
Speaker 11: to always be pushed. You can't go against the walk
Speaker 11: on wide receiver in one on one. You're always going
Speaker 11: to be going against one of the top receivers. So
Speaker 11: because of that, you have to bring it. You have
Speaker 11: to take care of your body. You have to get
Speaker 11: in the whatever playbook that is there a lot of
Speaker 11: to you, especially now since everything is online. Learn the system,
Speaker 11: ask questions and get Another thing is get involved. Get
Speaker 11: to know one of the vets who is willing to
Speaker 11: take you under his wing. Yeah, and then you can
Speaker 11: potentially have a successful journey in NFL. Give it your
Speaker 11: dB coach and ask him and work with him off
Speaker 11: the clock and time outside of mini camp for practice
Speaker 11: so that you and him to be on the same page.
Speaker 11: You can you can understand what he wants from you
Speaker 11: and y'all can form a relationship because relationships everything on
Speaker 11: the next level.
Speaker 2: You know, being a Packers fan and an owner, a shareholder,
Speaker 2: obviously I watched as Brett comes up and doesn't help
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers much, and then Aaron Rodgers doesn't help Jordan's
Speaker 2: love much. I know, is that just quarterbacks or does
Speaker 2: that happen throughout? I mean, is he gonna find a
Speaker 2: veteran dB or help him?
Speaker 11: Look when I was lookt bad, I mean honestly I
Speaker 11: had a guy telling me the wrong thing.
Speaker 12: Oh for sure.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean just if you think about it right.
Speaker 11: Every year they're drafting someone to take your position, and
Speaker 11: this is your job, so you're going to do everything
Speaker 11: possible to maintain your spot on the roster. Now it's
Speaker 11: upon you as the player who make sure you know
Speaker 11: what you're doing. What I mean by a veteran take
Speaker 11: youre on the wing. It's like helping you understand how
Speaker 11: far to live away from the facility, the little things
Speaker 11: not only on the field, but it'd be nice someone
Speaker 11: can but the little things that you don't think about,
Speaker 11: fining apartment, learning the ins and out of the area.
Speaker 11: What's the good part to live and what's not the
Speaker 11: good part live. There's a lot of things that's outside
Speaker 11: the facility that it would be nice if someone help
Speaker 11: you out.
Speaker 2: With well, what about Dion. What kind of future do
Speaker 2: you think he has?
Speaker 11: Dion is a conundrum because the guy physically can do anything.
Speaker 11: He is one of the few guys that I can
Speaker 11: remember that can legitimately play every position in any scheme.
Speaker 11: He can play in a three four, he can play
Speaker 11: the nose, he can play a four I and a
Speaker 11: four to three. He can play the one tech, the
Speaker 11: three tech or the two defensive ends. He's that gifted. Now,
Speaker 11: the issue with Dion is like I just said about Max,
Speaker 11: and he bring it every snap, and that is the
Speaker 11: only issue I have with him is that I'm not
Speaker 11: sure or you can get that out of somebody if
Speaker 11: they don't have it within themselves. So hopefully he has
Speaker 11: it within himself and someone can bring it out because
Speaker 11: he has every He has every a billity to be
Speaker 11: better than dods Allen Wow as as far as physically
Speaker 11: six' six three, plus he's, quick he can, run he's
Speaker 11: he's dominant when he wants to. Be LIKE i said
Speaker 11: a few minutes, ago the great thing about him is
Speaker 11: he's Not he can play any. Scheme, yeah and that's
Speaker 11: not normal no.
Speaker 2: By any means, No BUT i do believe And i'm not. Nearly,
Speaker 2: obviously he's learning when it comes to watching video as you.
Speaker 2: ARE i did THINK i saw him taking some plays
Speaker 2: off this past, year BUT i mean there were some
Speaker 2: there were some issues you, know with with you, know
Speaker 2: on both sides of the. Ball So i'll root for
Speaker 2: them wherever he. Goes we're talking To Van hiles about
Speaker 2: the Football, wildcats some of the guys who are. Gone
Speaker 2: we'll come back and talk about the guys who were
Speaker 2: coming in and the guys who are coming. Back here
Speaker 2: on a big moons side er six thirty wlap welcome.
Speaker 2: Back we're talking To Van, hiles who breaks DOWN uk
Speaker 2: football for us on both on the radio and on the.
Speaker 2: Internet and of Course van a Former kentucky defensive. Back
Speaker 2: of the of the new guys coming, in there are a, lot,
Speaker 2: Man is there any one or two or a position,
Speaker 2: group let me, say other than the old line that
Speaker 2: you're interested, In because each, time the last couple of
Speaker 2: times you AND i have, talked we've talked about how
Speaker 2: vital it is for the old line and it is
Speaker 2: going to be just about totally. Rebuild what about other
Speaker 2: areas that you're going to be?
Speaker 11: Studying so the, linebackers the the off well the jack
Speaker 11: in what would they call, them the two outside, linebackers The,
Speaker 11: Sam sam And. Jack is that the fish and ankles
Speaker 11: IF i call? Them difference because, Yeah Mike will are
Speaker 11: the two. Inside yeah That's Sama, Jack, Yeah Sama. Jack
Speaker 11: those two positions are the are so important for us
Speaker 11: as far as on passing, now pass rush and being
Speaker 11: guys who can get into. Coverage we have not had
Speaker 11: a dependable pass rush since twenty eighteen, really so getting
Speaker 11: some some old of that to plug in those, POSITIONS
Speaker 11: i think was a was a great fine for us
Speaker 11: AND i AND i really that's the area That i'm
Speaker 11: really looking forward to. Now the other the problem with,
Speaker 11: THAT i think we improved, There but who are going
Speaker 11: to be our mic and Will because in the three
Speaker 11: four the most important position is the nose and a
Speaker 11: mic and, Will so who is gonna man those two
Speaker 11: positions are going to be. Important but getting some some
Speaker 11: guys who can bend the edge and get some pressure
Speaker 11: on the quarterback when we got your, five you, know
Speaker 11: guys pushing the push in the middle of the line of.
Speaker 11: Scrims we need someone to be able to close and
Speaker 11: finish the. Fact SO i think that is the Position
Speaker 11: i'm going to be really looking forward.
Speaker 3: To.
Speaker 2: TOM i had a chance to talk To Sam, green
Speaker 2: who is a. Sophomore he's actually From, washington D. C
Speaker 2: but started his career At Southern cal and transferred To.
Speaker 2: Kentucky AND i asked, him you, know interesting choice you're coming.
Speaker 2: From you, Know Southern, cal which is one of the
Speaker 2: great brand names in college, football and he Chose. Kentucky
Speaker 2: And i'm sure he had other, choices but he Likes
Speaker 2: brad White man and he likes to Scheme kentucky. PLAYS
Speaker 2: i have no idea if this guy's going to be
Speaker 2: any good six two two forty, eight but they were
Speaker 2: more than happy to get. Him so that to be
Speaker 2: part of the answer to your.
Speaker 11: Question you, know, yeah that that is for us getting
Speaker 11: back to the situation where we can win on third
Speaker 11: down and win because we'll forced a quarterback get the
Speaker 11: bar all of. Hands it's something that we just haven't seen,
Speaker 11: recently AND i think getting guys like that will help
Speaker 11: us because we were doing pretty decent on on getting
Speaker 11: teams at the third and and five or. More the
Speaker 11: problem was we couldn't get off the. Field so now
Speaker 11: with with with the caliber guys that we're coming that
Speaker 11: we got coming off the. EDGE i think there's a
Speaker 11: chance where we can start winning on very and long
Speaker 11: and getting off the, field which will inherently help the
Speaker 11: offense because now the other teams the offense as the
Speaker 11: punt and offense can get a better field position short
Speaker 11: of start of field and potentially just fitting points on the.
Speaker 12: Board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you, know he started three games For Southern. Cal.
Speaker 3: Uh they also got a kid.
Speaker 2: FROM tcu who is not a full time. Starter, uh
Speaker 2: got a kid who transferred in From buffalo who.
Speaker 3: Who's got some. Size so, uh you, know BUT i
Speaker 3: know you're A Brad white, fan aren't.
Speaker 11: YOU i mean, yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes And Mark droups also talked about how they recruited
Speaker 3: as much through the portal for depth instead of like
Speaker 3: going for you, know a big name guy or whatever
Speaker 3: they're trying To and of course a lot of that
Speaker 3: has to do with nil, funds as you. Know but
Speaker 3: they needed more, depth didn't.
Speaker 11: They oh for. SURE i think that we learned from
Speaker 11: last year, specifically but the last two years of what
Speaker 11: we need to to how to address the. Portal and
Speaker 11: we got some great guys From Ole miss With Josh,
Speaker 11: jones and got A. DP i can't think of the.
Speaker 11: CORNER i can't think of his name right. Now, yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 11: Exactly so we had some we have some success, there
Speaker 11: AND i, HONESTLY i think with our, RECRUITING i think
Speaker 11: we went too much after stars and ratings and finding
Speaker 11: guys who fit our scheme and our system and more
Speaker 11: importantly the locker. Room and when we went that, route
Speaker 11: that caused some. Issues AND i think what they did
Speaker 11: this year they found good guys who are also going
Speaker 11: to be good locker room fits and fits the culture
Speaker 11: that we created Coach stups created prior to probably twenty twenty,
Speaker 11: two AND i think we have gotten kind of back to.
Speaker 11: THAT i don't like the word blue, collar but let's
Speaker 11: say more of a blue collar, guy a guy who's
Speaker 11: going to come here and work hard and not have
Speaker 11: The Prima donna kind kind of. Attitude so NOW i
Speaker 11: think we have gotten back to. That i've heard there
Speaker 11: the strength of condition is. Harder it's kind of back
Speaker 11: to what got us to the point of having two
Speaker 11: ten one. Seasons So i'm liking to hear. That so
Speaker 11: let's see what that does for this next.
Speaker 2: Season, well speaking Of, witch after the twenty eighteen season
Speaker 2: after actually the spring you tweeted this and it's pinned
Speaker 2: to your your file On twitter or. X the most
Speaker 2: impressive thing ABOUT uk football recruiting is our ability to
Speaker 2: identify talent, early be one of the first to give
Speaker 2: an athlete, attention and that, leads you, know to great.
Speaker 2: Things i'm paraphrasing, now and you said we'll beat one
Speaker 2: of the top dogs for a four or five star.
Speaker 2: Recruit my concern, now that seems like forever, ago and
Speaker 2: it was really it actually was five years it. Was
Speaker 2: but that is the Way stoops And, marijuando those guys
Speaker 2: built this program. Up and now it's not as much
Speaker 2: about identifying kids early and out recruiting and outworking and
Speaker 2: developing coaching them.
Speaker 3: UP i really am curious.
Speaker 2: That even THOUGH i do Believe stoops has been re,
Speaker 2: energized at least he appeared there in his press. Conference
Speaker 2: but and we have a chance to talk to him
Speaker 2: again this coming. Week but you, know he can't do.
Speaker 3: Business the way he really wants.
Speaker 2: To, really no coach, can but Especially, stupents who you
Speaker 2: know is not nearly as old AS i. Am but,
Speaker 2: buddy he's old. School you know, that do you fear
Speaker 2: for that the same WAY i.
Speaker 11: Do, YES i, do because the landscape of football has,
Speaker 11: changed and and he is he created his own demon
Speaker 11: because when you start winning, games now better players want
Speaker 11: to come to. You so, now how do you how
Speaker 11: do you say to a four star, guy now you
Speaker 11: don't quite fit the, Culture we don't go for the
Speaker 11: two and three star guy and keep developing when you
Speaker 11: have a guy with a high floor already that all
Speaker 11: you got to do is hope you can coach him up.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 11: Listen so he created the, monster and the monster kind
Speaker 11: of bit him more than what he. Expected i'm not
Speaker 11: saying he didn't expect some of the issues that come
Speaker 11: along with better rated, players but it bit him harder
Speaker 11: than he. Thought AND i think he AS i think
Speaker 11: he said at the end of the, year we are
Speaker 11: going to to, regroup re identify and not kind of
Speaker 11: do what we just, did and we're going to change
Speaker 11: it back. Up the only issue is he changed it
Speaker 11: up in the wrong.
Speaker 3: Conference oh.
Speaker 10: Buddy so it's not like he can he can get
Speaker 10: like an easier schedule and rebuild and. Reload, no he's
Speaker 10: in the in the in the midst of the best,
Speaker 10: conference top the, bottom of any conference and trying to
Speaker 10: figure it out in this conference is going to be.
Speaker 2: Difficult, well and you're probably like me when people, say,
Speaker 2: well what about the schedule and what about? It you
Speaker 2: know it DOESN'T i mean. EVERYBODY i guess there are
Speaker 2: a few twisting turns that might help you here and.
Speaker 3: There but everybody's playing a brutal.
Speaker 11: Schedule, yeah and it's LIKE i feel like my high
Speaker 11: school coaches THAT i coach on, now it's like it's
Speaker 11: not always about their, team it's about the other teams,
Speaker 11: too like are they, regrouping are they losing players or
Speaker 11: are they having? Issues because you can be going through a,
Speaker 11: downtime but you might be not going through as much
Speaker 11: of a downtime as someone, Else so there is still a.
Speaker 11: Possibility AND i, mean who would expect The vanderbilt to
Speaker 11: be as good as they were last year? Preseason no one.
Speaker 11: Expected there are always teams that come up and surprise.
Speaker 11: People hopefully that's.
Speaker 2: Us, yeah, yeah because it happened. Before and you, know
Speaker 2: he has shown that he knows what it takes.
Speaker 3: To get that.
Speaker 2: Done but, yeah like you, SAID i, mean And pavia
Speaker 2: wins his case and he's coming back and oh, man
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be, interesting it's gonna be, fun And
Speaker 2: Van hives will help us work through Advanced thank you so.
Speaker 3: Much we'll talk again. BEFORE i guess maybe we can
Speaker 3: talk after. Spring we'll see what we both noticed.
Speaker 2: There but hope you have a great spring with track
Speaker 2: and field and we'll talk.
Speaker 11: Soon appreciate it. Anytime up, Next.
Speaker 3: Drew diner here on six THIRTY.
Speaker 2: Wlap you've got the finale tomorrow with a wildcatch playing In.
Speaker 2: Missouri that's a tough, game and now it's brackets. Time
Speaker 2: one of the THINGS i worry about with This kentucky, Team,
Speaker 2: jeff is.
Speaker 3: Depth in the, turn especially THE sec TOURNAMENT x amount
Speaker 3: of games AND x amount of. Days what kind of
Speaker 3: damage can this team? Do do you?
Speaker 13: Think you? Know it's it's.
Speaker 12: INTERESTING i think that the loss Of jackson is is
Speaker 12: and you're gonna, say what it's a plus and a.
Speaker 12: Minus it's a minus because obviously you lose your second leading.
Speaker 12: Scorer he's up for the air and he's never gonna play.
Speaker 12: Again but there was always that EXPECTATION i think in
Speaker 12: the player's mind That Willis reid was going to come
Speaker 12: out of the locker. Room if you know WHAT i,
Speaker 12: mean you, know but so now that's not, happening you,
Speaker 12: know and we always see, that you, Know Larry birds
Speaker 12: like coming through that. Door this is what we got
Speaker 12: AND i think that relieves a little bit of that
Speaker 12: looking over the shoulder for these. Guys now we know
Speaker 12: this is our. Team and the one thing That mark
Speaker 12: has said, is, look this is the first time and
Speaker 12: a month and a half that he's had the same
Speaker 12: group of guys for three straight. Games think about that
Speaker 12: for a. Second so now these guys know and you know,
Speaker 12: WHAT i got to play an extra two minutes a, game,
Speaker 12: now that's. All and look here's the other. Thing And
Speaker 12: i've talked to some of the guys Like goose And
Speaker 12: kenny and stuff about, this especially when you get to the.
Speaker 12: Tournament you get the four timeouts a, half, RIGHT i
Speaker 12: mean the regular ones A tv, timeouts and they're. Longer oh. Yeah,
Speaker 12: now plus you still have your complimented, timeouts so you're
Speaker 12: really only playing about three minutes at a time or
Speaker 12: four minute, gaps, right and that's what you. Need you
Speaker 12: break the game down into four minute segments and that's
Speaker 12: all it. Is and SO i think that if you
Speaker 12: do it that, way and you put it in your
Speaker 12: mind that. Way as a, player it's a lot easier
Speaker 12: than THINKING i got to play.
Speaker 3: Thirty, yeah, yeah you're exactly. Right.
Speaker 2: YEAH i think this breaks are at least thirty to
Speaker 2: forty seconds. LONGER i remember When patino was here him
Speaker 2: pointing that. Out the other, issue, though is it's almost
Speaker 2: like when that second unit comes. In you, Know pope
Speaker 2: has been asked kind of gently by, reporters by fans on.
Speaker 3: His shows who basically hate.
Speaker 2: It honestly when he pulls three or four starters and subs.
Speaker 2: OUT i kind of like his reasoning because he wants
Speaker 2: everybody to go as hard as he possibly needs them
Speaker 2: to go hard the way they play, offense and you
Speaker 2: can see him wearing down on, them especially With Maury.
Speaker 2: Williams BUT i do wonder about. THAT i Think Jackson
Speaker 2: robinson was a key when it comes to how he
Speaker 2: balanced his, people you know WHAT i?
Speaker 12: Mean, Yeah and, look here's the. Thing you're either in
Speaker 12: with analytics or you're not as a coach and as
Speaker 12: a a collective, staff or you're not. Analytics say this
Speaker 12: guy's good FOR x amount of minutes at a, time
Speaker 12: and then he sees the drop off And mark plays
Speaker 12: that to the. TEE i, mean it's a little different
Speaker 12: in basketball than it is in the other sports because
Speaker 12: you're using so much energy in. BASKETBALL i mean in,
Speaker 12: baseball you, know, LOOK i got ninety pitches out of this,
Speaker 12: guy and you know, that and you're just trying, to you,
Speaker 12: know see how far CAN i get with? Those? Nighty
Speaker 12: CAN i get through the fifth?
Speaker 11: Inning you, Know.
Speaker 12: Here it's a little. Different and he goes by the
Speaker 12: book with, that and when it says it's time for
Speaker 12: me to Get Lamont butler out, THERE i don't care
Speaker 12: if we're up to or down too or up ten
Speaker 12: or down. Ten he's coming out because that's what the analytics.
Speaker 12: Say and you just have to buy into that as a.
Speaker 2: Fan and he can also just eyeball. It you can
Speaker 2: tell and so hes get. Tired so it's also a
Speaker 2: team we can see what. HAPPENS i, mean it's been
Speaker 2: obvious all year when they can get not just get
Speaker 2: up a number of three, pointers but get up good three.
Speaker 2: Points that's Like Cali perry, said you, know we got
Speaker 2: a lot of, shooters do we have? Makers when when they're,
Speaker 2: Makers kentucky can beat. Anyway and they hung With auburn
Speaker 2: when they were making, shots didn't.
Speaker 12: They, Yeah and you, KNOW i go back to this,
Speaker 12: too and it's kind of a weird, comparison but like
Speaker 12: you just, said there are guys that are scores and
Speaker 12: they're guys that are great, shooters and then they're Guys
Speaker 12: Steph curry's both. Right But Rex chapman was a great.
Speaker 12: Scorer BUT i don't Think Rex chapman was a great
Speaker 12: AND i, mean you, know A Steph curry, shooter it took, Him,
Speaker 12: yeah it took him twenty shots to get the points he,
Speaker 12: got whereas other guys only takes eleven.
Speaker 13: Shots, yeah you.
Speaker 12: Know see THAT'S i think that's what you got to
Speaker 12: realize about these. Two but to, me it's, All, look
Speaker 12: everything in sports is. Confidence and you see this all the.
Speaker 12: Time If Kobe brea makes a three, Earlier annsley Albin
Speaker 12: or makes the three, arey they usually have a pretty good.
Speaker 12: Game Amelia hassen on the women, side if she makes
Speaker 12: the three, early look, out because you, know it's just
Speaker 12: something in them where IF i can make, this, okay
Speaker 12: NOW i feel. Good, yeah you, know and you just
Speaker 12: let them.
Speaker 13: Go.
Speaker 2: Yeah you, KNOW i was talking to some people about
Speaker 2: this earlier in the, week when you and you can
Speaker 2: say this about both the men's team and the women's,
Speaker 2: team it's really interesting the. Parallels When barnard had to
Speaker 2: go out and hire two new, COACHES i, mean what
Speaker 2: ad has had to do, that and both coaches have had.
Speaker 3: To rebuild almost the entire. Roster brooks had to rebuild
Speaker 3: most of. It, mark with due respect to the Walk,
Speaker 3: Ons mark had to rebuild the whole.
Speaker 2: Thing and of course you're THE tv voice of the
Speaker 2: women's team ON Sec, plus so you've seen a lot of, games,
Speaker 2: practices shoot. Arounds we've all seen the men, play and
Speaker 2: they both had really fun. SEASONS i, mean it's successful
Speaker 2: as they've, been it's been. Fun you, know this is
Speaker 2: these are MOMENTS i don't think we'll ever see, again you,
Speaker 2: know just because a. Circumstance but, Man i've had a
Speaker 2: ball this, year haven't.
Speaker 12: You, Yeah and you, know both of them are very.
Speaker 12: Similar mark doesn't go absolutely crazy in practices That i've.
Speaker 12: Seen he doesn't cuss in practice That i've. Seen, kenny
Speaker 12: And i've been to a lot of, practices does not,
Speaker 12: cuss does not scream and. Holler they just they're almost
Speaker 12: like a horse, whisperer the basketball. Whisper you, know they
Speaker 12: they get their point across and they do it that
Speaker 12: they're not upsetting. Anybody but you, know both of them
Speaker 12: have a. Stare kenny's got an unbelievable one that will
Speaker 12: cut right through, them so he doesn't have to yell
Speaker 12: and scream and. Holler BUT i think both of those
Speaker 12: fantastic hires in great. Futures and you talk about, similarities
Speaker 12: both of them lost two players that were really, key
Speaker 12: AND i think even more so on the women's side
Speaker 12: had those two girls. PLAY i, mean and this has
Speaker 12: been a fantastic. Here this is a team that's you,
Speaker 12: know fourth and THE sec coach if he has those two,
Speaker 12: ladies AND i am not stretching saying, this this is
Speaker 12: a final four. Basketball, wow how good this he could
Speaker 12: have been with those. Two, Yeah george and is a great.
Speaker 12: Shooter George aymore's gone after this year.
Speaker 3: Too, yeah you, know but, anyhow you, know put your
Speaker 3: faith In Kenny. Brooks he knows what he's. Doing s
Speaker 3: Gott Virginia tech to The final.
Speaker 2: Four we're talking To Jeff pecaurel of THE Uk network AND,
Speaker 2: wtvq and we will talk more we'll talk a little
Speaker 2: football on the other side of the break here on
Speaker 2: six THIRTY. Wlap welcome Back Jeff picaorrel's on a celebrity
Speaker 2: hotline and we're gonna ask him to switch roles. Now
Speaker 2: as OUR uk football radio analyst going into spring, Practice Mark,
Speaker 2: stoops you said next to me at the news conference
Speaker 2: when he first started talking to us in the, spring
Speaker 2: looks like he. Is his batteries are fully recharged and
Speaker 2: what a job ahead him, though man with all these new,
Speaker 2: faces and obviously it starts with the old, line but
Speaker 2: we've talked before this is a vital off season for.
Speaker 2: Him but based on the new, FACES i think he's positioned,
Speaker 2: himself he and his staff pretty.
Speaker 3: Well do you see it that? Way?
Speaker 12: YEAH i think this WAS i think what happened last
Speaker 12: year was a little come To jesus type of thing
Speaker 12: for him IN i think he was comfortable here and
Speaker 12: you can't get. COMFORTABLE i think he's going to go
Speaker 12: back to hell fire and brimstone and all that at
Speaker 12: practice and. STUFF i think that the how DO i
Speaker 12: put this in terms that doesn't Make mark look? Bad
Speaker 12: this is What i'm trying to think that you, know
Speaker 12: he wasn't as as. STERN i think that he let
Speaker 12: guys get away with stuff a little bit last, year
Speaker 12: and he's going back to the basics of tough, love
Speaker 12: AND i think that has to happen. NOW i, mean
Speaker 12: you got, guys and this has to be so hard
Speaker 12: because he is a football guy through and, through and
Speaker 12: now he's coaching college players that are making more money
Speaker 12: than he made for the first probably twenty years of
Speaker 12: his coaching.
Speaker 11: Career, right that's.
Speaker 10: True and how do you do?
Speaker 12: THAT i, mean how CAN i tell a guy that's
Speaker 12: making a million dollars go run a lap for?
Speaker 13: Me?
Speaker 11: No you, know what do you? Do?
Speaker 12: MAN i, mean that's that's that's a real conundrum for.
Speaker 12: Me AND i think That saban said it best when he,
Speaker 12: says you, know we we win a national. Championship in
Speaker 12: ten minutes, later, guys they're asking me for. Raises you,
Speaker 12: know this is not WHAT i want to.
Speaker 2: Do, well the kids who Took miami to the final
Speaker 2: four walked up To Laura nagen said we're.
Speaker 12: Out we're, Out we're.
Speaker 1: Leaving but.
Speaker 12: To put it in more perspective, here, look they they
Speaker 12: went out and spent a lot of money on a
Speaker 12: lot of really good. Players and AGAIN i think What
Speaker 12: Old miss. Does it just goes out and gets the
Speaker 12: best players at every.
Speaker 13: You know In.
Speaker 12: Kentucky does it the way That i'm filling. HOLES i need, this,
Speaker 12: this and, this let's go get. It they got five
Speaker 12: offensive linemen for those guys are probably gonna START i,
Speaker 12: mean their pencil to the starters right, now and probably
Speaker 12: three of you can ink in as, starters you, KNOW i,
Speaker 12: mean we're really's going to be the center come hell
Speaker 12: in the high water unless he gets. Hurt you, know
Speaker 12: they filled exactly what they needed to. Do and, really
Speaker 12: when you look at what's coming. Back mala guy played
Speaker 12: great last, year in my, opinion was very. Underrated that
Speaker 12: he was thrown into the fire and what he ended
Speaker 12: up doing really came on at the end of the.
Speaker 12: Year you've Got, jagger who's got three years of experience coming.
Speaker 12: BACK i just think that what you. Have you got
Speaker 12: the right guard coming, back basically the left guard coming
Speaker 12: back coming. Back plus you added five, guys so now
Speaker 12: you've got What john used.
Speaker 13: To have and that's eight.
Speaker 12: Deep a guy that can move to both sides, too
Speaker 12: AND i think that's big.
Speaker 2: Key, yeah you spoke when they gave us a chance
Speaker 2: to talk to the newcomers To wibberley The, center who's you,
Speaker 2: know sounds like he's about twenty eight years. Old and Also,
Speaker 2: pete you know the transfer in From New. Mexico stay
Speaker 2: fascinating story on that young, man the full Blooded navajo and.
Speaker 3: Amounting of a.
Speaker 2: MAN i used to talk To jeff about the fact
Speaker 2: that you, know you go down and you see and
Speaker 2: you And i've talked about this, before how Big florida
Speaker 2: guys used to be compared To kentucky with all that
Speaker 2: mass in their chest and back in the day Of
Speaker 2: kentucky had a guy with wade it was below his.
Speaker 3: Belt that kid. Has i'd love to know.
Speaker 2: What his body fat is because he is an absolute,
Speaker 2: beast isn't He and just a really bright they all,
Speaker 2: are really.
Speaker 12: YEAH i, thought and you, see if you see the comparison,
Speaker 12: HERE i think he's a Bigger landing Young Remember landing
Speaker 12: was a, wrestler and oh, yeah that's a great. Wrestler
Speaker 12: And landed was six. Five probably this guy's got him
Speaker 12: by a couple of. Inches AND i mean that is one.
Speaker 12: THING i, mean he wasn't in pad that he looked
Speaker 12: like he was in. Past yeah he.
Speaker 3: Did, Man now can they play you know that's the,
Speaker 3: yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly and then they've, got you, know a short amount
Speaker 2: of time they've got to do and what the best
Speaker 2: line That schlarman.
Speaker 3: Had they had two and three years to work.
Speaker 2: Together and be that five guys acting as, one they've
Speaker 2: got you know what six.
Speaker 12: Months, yeah and that's and that's the QUESTION i asked
Speaker 12: those guys the continuity and BECAUSE i have to know
Speaker 12: that that guy next to me is taking that that
Speaker 12: drop step SO i can get through and he can come,
Speaker 12: around and, uh you, know and that's only, repetition, Repetition
Speaker 12: and all those guys, said and ESPECIALLY i think it
Speaker 12: WAS i think it was the kid From. Western we're
Speaker 12: talking about the center where he, said this is kind
Speaker 12: of the same style of offense that we play At.
Speaker 12: Western so for him it was he, said you, know
Speaker 12: the only difference is When i'm calling out stuff IS
Speaker 12: i got to remember the terms that we used to.
Speaker 12: Remember AND i know there was a game when, Uh
Speaker 12: devin the quarterback made a call and it was AN
Speaker 12: Nc state, call you, know in a, Game so that's
Speaker 12: what the terminology. Said it's the same, play but the
Speaker 12: terminology is, different and he, said you, know that's the
Speaker 12: only THING i have to worry, about is you, know
Speaker 12: calling the right name for the what we're going to.
Speaker 3: Do and it's but it's so different to and you
Speaker 3: were a wide.
Speaker 2: Receiver you, know you guys could go out and pitch
Speaker 2: and catch whatever you felt like and. Whatever you could
Speaker 2: get everybody, together you, know and and A qb could
Speaker 2: call it a, play not just for, fun but hey
Speaker 2: go run you know this this or that.
Speaker 3: Play old. Lineman can't do, that old. Lineman they let's go.
Speaker 12: In the backyard and three of, us, yeah yea, yeah
Speaker 12: work on our, steps.
Speaker 2: But let's get let's get three or four d linemen
Speaker 2: to help beat us up so we we we can replicate.
Speaker 3: It, no they can't do. That so, uh it's gonna
Speaker 3: take hard, work which they're used, to and it's gonna
Speaker 3: take some. Coaching so it's going to be.
Speaker 2: INTERESTING a few minutes left With jeppichor BEFORE i let
Speaker 2: you go spring training for The. Bigs and you were
Speaker 2: with The Reds network for so long and covered a
Speaker 2: lot of frustrating. Seasons BUT i know you're A Tito francona,
Speaker 2: fan and we were chatting on the text chain the other.
Speaker 3: Day if he.
Speaker 2: Doesn't, succeed in my, OPINION i think it's because he
Speaker 2: is obviously a proven. Commodity it'll be because the folks
Speaker 2: in the front office don't give him what he.
Speaker 3: Needs do you agree with? That?
Speaker 12: Yeah and if you talk to people that cover, baseball
Speaker 12: and especially cover The red there were some assurances that
Speaker 12: were made to him that of what we're talking, about
Speaker 12: that if you need, this we'll go get. It he
Speaker 12: would and have come just because he wanted. To, look
Speaker 12: he's too good of a. MANAGER i, mean it's just
Speaker 12: in all seriousness and and AND i don't think this
Speaker 12: is hyperbole by saying. This this is like going out
Speaker 12: and getting A Tony laruss Or Joe. Tory that's that's
Speaker 12: how good this guy is. PEOPLE i, mean this guy's
Speaker 12: won a couple Of World series as a. Manager and,
Speaker 12: yes and look what he did In, cleveland and look you,
Speaker 12: know and and he came back not out of the
Speaker 12: goodness of his. Heart yes he's getting, paid but he
Speaker 12: could have made a heck of a lot more if
Speaker 12: he goes to The yankees Or chicago or some place like.
Speaker 12: That but he's not felling back for a seventy win.
Speaker 11: Season that's not.
Speaker 12: Happening he came back because he, knows AND i like
Speaker 12: the one of the first things he did when when
Speaker 12: when he got the job was he flew down and
Speaker 12: went To elie Day La cruz's house and met him and, said,
Speaker 12: dude you're. Good you want to be. Great you're going
Speaker 12: to fall in line behind WHAT i tell you to.
Speaker 12: Do if you're not in, it then you, know we'll get.
Speaker 10: Ready if he you're gonna do?
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah and he, Said i'm all in. Skip that was.
Speaker 2: It, players most, PLAYERS i should, say they they appreciate,
Speaker 2: that Don't they just let coaches need, coaching and baseball
Speaker 2: players appreciate a good, manager, Right.
Speaker 12: Yeah AND i think, plus once you get to the,
Speaker 12: major's look there's a reason you're major you're pretty are, good,
Speaker 12: Right but guys are gonna guys are just LIKE i
Speaker 12: think baseball players are a lot like little. Kids they're
Speaker 12: gonna push you as far as you're gonna let them push.
Speaker 12: You and when they get the blowback is when they
Speaker 12: kind of step, back. RIGHT i, mean we all remember
Speaker 12: the great thing With Barry bonds and, Oh i'm losing my,
Speaker 12: Mind laydon, Yeah leland in spring training when he went after,
Speaker 12: him it, Said, verry this ain't the way we do.
Speaker 12: It And barry got right in his face and they
Speaker 12: went at it and very back down and became the
Speaker 12: player he.
Speaker 1: Was.
Speaker 2: Yeah you, know my theory, Is i'm NOT i didn't invent,
Speaker 2: it BUT i think there's just more arrested development in
Speaker 2: baseball because so many guys skip college where you do
Speaker 2: a lot of growing up and and get right into
Speaker 2: the boys club that, is the minor leagues with the
Speaker 2: bus rides in the, clubhouse and you, know so that
Speaker 2: that kind of locks, in doesn't.
Speaker 12: It you. Know the one thing is the bus. Ride
Speaker 12: one of the most telling things in the movie That
Speaker 12: costma does is, uh when he's With New coolution a,
Speaker 12: bus he goes a, right sit down. Kid they're on the.
Speaker 12: Bus he, says we're going to go through our you, know.
Speaker 12: Interviews here's what you say you're. Learning, yeah you're learning everything.
Speaker 3: From the, veterans, right because that's.
Speaker 12: Right you know you didn't go through.
Speaker 11: It you, know.
Speaker 12: You're just a, kid and that's actually pretty. COOL i
Speaker 12: always thought about.
Speaker 3: That bull Durham, Man, YEAH i love.
Speaker 2: It Jeffcarl is the radio analyst in THE Uk Football.
Speaker 2: Network he'll be covering spring football as well as tournament
Speaker 2: time both the high schools and colleges FOR. Wtvq thank your,
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Speaker 2: At jeff MACOR o pie co R. O a Reminder
Speaker 2: KENTUCKY missoo, tomorrow we'll have that for you right. Here
Speaker 2: it's a noon tip off eleven o'clock. Local but LIKE i,
Speaker 2: said it's not going to be eleven o'clock to The
Speaker 2: wildcats because their body clocks will remain what they are.
Speaker 2: Now but, Anyhow, yeah ten thirty pre game on the
Speaker 2: network With david And, Cameron tom And jack with a
Speaker 2: tip nine to thirty local time with The cats are
Speaker 2: boys and, early so kind of the equivalent of kegs
Speaker 2: and eggs if you're talking about a football, game but,
Speaker 2: basketball you, know and it's a road, game so just
Speaker 2: put your feet up and have lunch with The. Wildcats
Speaker 2: up Next Drew diner FROM Espn radio In louisville on
Speaker 2: six THIRTY. Wlap right here Is. Drew we'll get you
Speaker 2: done with this in three two one over In louisville
Speaker 2: on THE Espn radio say there's a show Called The Diner,
Speaker 2: show and what's fortunate for them as they found a
Speaker 2: guy Named.
Speaker 3: Dianer to host.
Speaker 2: It that Is Drew, deaner who is a former friend in.
Speaker 2: Collegway he's still a friend but a colleague at W
Speaker 2: kyt worked there on THE uk, network has also worked
Speaker 2: on THE u OF l network and joins us on
Speaker 2: our celebrity.
Speaker 3: Hotline do you? KNOW i kept saying you were the
Speaker 3: only guy that planning who ever done? BOTH i Think
Speaker 3: Doug ormey did, both didn't?
Speaker 14: He, well there was someone.
Speaker 15: Else you guys could always bring up a name THAT
Speaker 15: i couldn't remember from the a little bit further of the.
Speaker 16: Past BUT i.
Speaker 14: DON'T i don't know that or May, YEAH i know, obviously.
Speaker 13: Ul but you know better THAN. I if he Did,
Speaker 13: kentucky he.
Speaker 2: Did there was a four year Stam, yeah When jim
Speaker 2: hosted Not own The rights and uh and he was
Speaker 2: part of. It, uh Dougas dougs and other guy's a
Speaker 2: friend in a long. Time uh, Peer so, uh WHAT
Speaker 2: i got to ask you is what has it been
Speaker 2: like covering you OF i know what my brother has
Speaker 2: told me all he keeps texting me is it's fun.
Speaker 3: Again AND i guess there's no better way to put
Speaker 3: it as.
Speaker 16: There, YES i.
Speaker 15: Mean i've actually personally Thanked Pat kelsey for giving us
Speaker 15: our winters, back you, KNOW i, mean not the, weather
Speaker 15: but had something to look forward.
Speaker 16: To it's.
Speaker 15: UNBELIEVABLE i, mean to go from the nuclear winter we
Speaker 15: had for two. Winters, yeah with no, hope no, accountability,
Speaker 15: lazy pure laziness from the staff the head coach to
Speaker 15: a guy.
Speaker 13: Who just bleeds energy and.
Speaker 15: ENTHUSIASM I had's.
Speaker 13: Unbelievable.
Speaker 14: This i've never seen a student.
Speaker 11: Section like, This.
Speaker 15: CEMER i was looking at that last. NIGHT i only
Speaker 15: last a little halftime at nine o'clock, TIP i left
Speaker 15: it the under four time out in the first. Half
Speaker 15: but the student, sections it's. Unbelievable it's never BEEN i
Speaker 15: don't think very good. Here and all it's taken is
Speaker 15: Like kelsey to like go it from the crowd a few.
Speaker 15: Times he's just his energies. Infectious it's just been. Fun
Speaker 15: and we know they're beating bad. Teams we get, it
Speaker 15: we get.
Speaker 12: It you.
Speaker 15: Know it's like a little fans are like all the
Speaker 15: who's In whoville every, time like they would a. Game
Speaker 15: it's like Aventor Comfort. State it's, like that's, right we're still.
Speaker 15: Singing we're still Singing christmas. Morning so it's. Fine, yeah
Speaker 15: it's been fun. Again it's not like last year people
Speaker 15: like we didn't, go not because they were, protesting because
Speaker 15: every the THING i would always hear is it makes
Speaker 15: me mad to watch what it's. Become i'm not going
Speaker 15: Because i'm trying.
Speaker 13: To it's JUST i.
Speaker 15: Get ill watching what this has. Become and NOW i got.
Speaker 15: People the problem is people think like getting free tickets
Speaker 15: was normal last few.
Speaker 16: Years because now they're, like, hey you got any.
Speaker 14: Tickets i'm, like, no this is back to. Normal there's
Speaker 14: no free tickets or.
Speaker 3: Parking.
Speaker 16: Yeah, No or when you leave for the game's rightly
Speaker 16: when you leave The like a year, AGO.
Speaker 15: I could leave thirty minutes for the game and walk
Speaker 15: in with a couple minutes. Ago IF i leave thirty
Speaker 15: minutes Now i'm twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: Late that's, right that's.
Speaker 2: Right, NO i, mean, Okay so if you think they're
Speaker 2: beating bad, teams last, year they were losing.
Speaker 3: The bad, teams so you, know but you know it's
Speaker 3: more than that. Too it's more than just a winning
Speaker 3: which is always. Fun it's style of, play isn't.
Speaker 16: It, yeah style plays.
Speaker 14: Overcoming you never talked about.
Speaker 15: Injuries and they lost their two you, know leading scores
Speaker 15: based their guy that was they're leading, scoring a guy
Speaker 15: they were anticipating being the leading scorer.
Speaker 14: In the first like one of within the first week
Speaker 14: of the, season the other in The.
Speaker 13: Bahamas and it just goes right.
Speaker 15: ALONG i, mean case In pryor still if you go
Speaker 15: by The Ken bomb would still be the highest contributor
Speaker 15: per possession and anybody on the, team and he hadn't
Speaker 15: played since The, bahamas so you.
Speaker 14: Know, YEAH i mean, ay and it probably wasn't.
Speaker 15: Made a big deal many places because he didn't want
Speaker 15: to talk about, it but those are going to be
Speaker 15: two of their three leading.
Speaker 2: Scorers, yeah, yeah you, know and we know all about
Speaker 2: injuries over. Here is you, Know pope's lost at times
Speaker 2: three of his top perimeter players and you, know obviously
Speaker 2: we know About Jackson. Robinson so that, matters, clearly that,
Speaker 2: matters but more than, anything just just just getting it turned.
Speaker 2: Around and now it's postseason. Time you got what THE
Speaker 2: Acc tournament coming up On, tuesday do you do we
Speaker 2: know yet what Seed louisville's looking.
Speaker 14: At, yes, WELL i mean basically.
Speaker 13: Barring The duke, loss So i'd like to live in.
Speaker 15: Reality, yeah they're going to be the two seeds and
Speaker 15: playing playing On thursday night in the seven o'clock, Games
Speaker 15: so that's, ideal so fans can fly. In you, know
Speaker 15: there's four or five direct flights From charlotte a little To,
Speaker 15: charlotte so people don't even have to take a work
Speaker 15: day off much on The thursday and get. There So
Speaker 15: i'll be curious to how many people go. There this
Speaker 15: would be the first A sec Tournament i've been to
Speaker 15: since twenty twenty WHEN covid stuff.
Speaker 3: Short wow and and double. BY i mean you gotta love.
Speaker 13: That, YEAH i, mean.
Speaker 15: You, know they've never been to the semi final to
Speaker 15: THE acc tournament since they've been in the, league so
Speaker 15: it would be they'd have to have a bad loss
Speaker 15: to not get there this.
Speaker 3: Time they lost To duke back In.
Speaker 2: December we know that wasn't an embarrassing loss by what,
Speaker 2: Eleven but what what do we remember from that game
Speaker 2: that we think could change could be different this?
Speaker 15: Time, WELL i mean they were, up they were pretty
Speaker 15: big On duke in that game and Then duke Name,
Speaker 15: duke don't don't Heckle cooper.
Speaker 14: Flag any fan base that wants to.
Speaker 16: Know the student section echoed, him and then he just went.
Speaker 14: Off but you, know earlier in the, year this is
Speaker 14: just a different.
Speaker 15: TEAM i, mean they got smoked By, tennessee they got
Speaker 15: smoked By old miss and you, know The duke game is.
Speaker 15: Respectable and that's sort of when you know they started
Speaker 15: right after The kentucky game with all those. Injuries and
Speaker 15: you've seen this a million times with. Teams guys are
Speaker 15: forced in the roles that they would never get the
Speaker 15: minutes for, doing and.
Speaker 14: And sometimes it's a. Blessing and that's what's happened.
Speaker 13: Here it's shortened the. Rotation it's just it's just. Worked.
Speaker 15: Now Rain smith got injured last. Night we don't know
Speaker 15: the extent of.
Speaker 13: THAT i won't know that.
Speaker 15: TOMORROW i don't know that they can sustain that and
Speaker 15: hope they have much of a tournament. Run it's, Like,
Speaker 15: okay you can only take so many. Injuries he's their.
Speaker 15: Sharpshooter but, YEAH i, MEAN i think they've been proved
Speaker 15: a lot since. Then that's WHY i think it's it's
Speaker 15: sort of tough to evaluate them and a lot of
Speaker 15: teams mathematically since everybody went into conference, play because they're
Speaker 15: a lot better they were than what beating those.
Speaker 13: TEAMS i don't, know BUT i know they're a lot better.
Speaker 2: Basketball, yeah talking To Drew diner FROM Espn radio over
Speaker 2: In louisville and The Louisville cardinals finish up the regular season
Speaker 2: On saturday Against, stanford which is won nineteen, Games louisville
Speaker 2: twenty four and. Six and you can't talk about The
Speaker 2: cards of course Without Chucky. Hepburn he's become a NATIONAL
Speaker 2: i think figure if you. Will style of. Play i've
Speaker 2: got the hair going for. Him that insane. Straight i'm
Speaker 2: spending the dial the other, Night drew AND i landed
Speaker 2: on The louisville game just when that streak. Began i've
Speaker 2: never seen anything like. IT i guarantee nobody has right of.
Speaker 2: Him he had sent straight three pointers in six.
Speaker 13: Attempts the only games ON trentz went off like that Against.
Speaker 15: Carolina, YEAH i think it was. Fine that was the
Speaker 15: only THING i can compare it to. IT i think
Speaker 15: this was a little more trunk, canted and then you,
Speaker 15: know then he even hit the.
Speaker 13: Shot that didn't, count that was a, three that was.
Speaker 16: Ubsurd, yeah it's.
Speaker 13: Crazy they've had four different guys go for thirty this.
Speaker 15: Year that's never. Happened and you, know AND chucki afference is.
Speaker 15: Great he's he's the smartest basketball player this side of
Speaker 15: ANY i gotta take the twenty thirteen team out of,
Speaker 15: it partly because they're around a.
Speaker 16: Lot, yeah you know, so but he has become it's
Speaker 16: tough to you.
Speaker 15: Know we're talking about this today to have like an
Speaker 15: all time beloved team for a bunch of guys who
Speaker 15: were playing elsewhere last. Year but this team is really
Speaker 15: kind of in that territory because they have restored you,
Speaker 15: know the, program and SO i you, Know i'd hate
Speaker 15: to see, them, like you, know losing the first, round
Speaker 15: bab because it's been such a great. Year but they have,
Speaker 15: there they've accomplished the. Job when you had eighteen thousand
Speaker 15: people there On saturday, night you, know all going, crazy
Speaker 15: that's just that's what we. Remember BUT i, Mean Jeff
Speaker 15: kple even after the game was, like this is WHAT
Speaker 15: i Remember louisville basketball being like this is pretty.
Speaker 2: Remarkable interesting that it's happening seventy miles apart of the.
Speaker 2: Interstate same deal over here where they hadn't quite bottomed
Speaker 2: out the Way louisville Under. Caliperry but you, know the
Speaker 2: fans were so, unhappy as you, know roster was, empty
Speaker 2: covered was. Bear here comes the former Player Mark, Pope
Speaker 2: and now you've got a team full of guys who
Speaker 2: dreamed of playing at a place Like. Kentucky and before
Speaker 2: and After senior night talked about how much they appreciated
Speaker 2: just the opportunity to be a part of something. Big
Speaker 2: are you hearing the same thing from The louisville, Kids?
Speaker 15: Yeah, Yeah AND i think it's just kind of the
Speaker 15: athletics these. Days you know that you're going to have
Speaker 15: the guys that you're going to have to allow into.
Speaker 14: Your hearts if they're only there a, year, yeah you,
Speaker 14: know or.
Speaker 15: Two AND i think that's the thing That kelsey hasn't
Speaker 15: doing himself the, most that he is genuinely authentically respectful
Speaker 15: of the history of the, program because even Though Chris
Speaker 15: matt grew up In cincinnati as, WELL i don't think
Speaker 15: he followed college basketball Like kelsey. DID i, Mean, kelsey
Speaker 15: can you know remember players the kind of obscure loil
Speaker 15: players and if he doesn't know about, it he immediately.
Speaker 15: Researches i'll tell you, This she'll love. This he said
Speaker 15: something a few weeks ago that probably very few.
Speaker 13: People caught THAT i brought.
Speaker 15: Up he was talking With Paul rodgers on Their Coaches,
Speaker 15: show and he was saying about how.
Speaker 16: That they used to do their interview on game, day
Speaker 16: but he.
Speaker 15: Was too distracted and he wanted to do better job
Speaker 15: of give an, answer so they do the pregame interview
Speaker 15: the day, before and then he, said he goes BECAUSE
Speaker 15: i know you have ninety minutes to fill for a,
Speaker 15: Pregame AND i, THOUGHT i don't think there's ever been
Speaker 15: a coacher who's known exactly how long.
Speaker 13: The pregame show.
Speaker 16: IS i don't.
Speaker 11: Knew, yeah do.
Speaker 15: You Think pope knows exactly how long THE uk?
Speaker 16: PREGAMES i, MEAN i don't Think grantee coaches.
Speaker 15: Care enough to do, that Although pope can explain an
Speaker 15: injury like no coach in the history of.
Speaker 2: Mankind when he was rolling over that one the other, day,
Speaker 2: well of course, school, YEAH i, Know.
Speaker 15: But that just hit me because if he took the
Speaker 15: time to know exactly how long the pregame. Show is
Speaker 15: he's really good at figuring out what is important in
Speaker 15: your world with a relation to the, Program and AND
Speaker 15: i just that was a little thing THAT i just was, Like,
Speaker 15: MAN i don't think anybody's ever known.
Speaker 3: That never met, him but NOW i like him even.
Speaker 2: MORE i got a few minutes, left a few minutes
Speaker 2: left With Drew dineer FROM Espn radio over In Louisville
Speaker 2: court talking about The Louisville, cardinals who liked everybody has
Speaker 2: postseason coming up? Fast uh that, said you talked about
Speaker 2: the thirteen team and you were In louisville by the
Speaker 2: Time patino was working his magic over. There have you
Speaker 2: had a chance to check out the documentary series on
Speaker 2: What Saint john's is doing With patino and he even
Speaker 2: if not just checking out the work he's done up
Speaker 2: At Saint.
Speaker 15: John's oh, yeah and nothing funnier Than kenny Klein.
Speaker 11: Beans.
Speaker 16: Yeah and so here's the.
Speaker 13: Funny on the OTHER i was watching their game week ago.
Speaker 16: And there playing The weekend AND i AND i, WAS i.
Speaker 13: Was, like look At Kenny kleiner's mass.
Speaker 15: Yellow and unless it said something that sounded, like, Hey,
Speaker 15: siri Call Kenny kline because my, WATCH i was making
Speaker 15: a weird noise and it's a loud are AND i
Speaker 15: look down the.
Speaker 14: Here, hey why are you calling?
Speaker 16: Me i'm, like, oh ON tv right?
Speaker 13: Now?
Speaker 15: Sorry so, Yeah i've watched watched a bunch Of i've
Speaker 15: seen all the Uh i'm all, theisodes But i've certainly
Speaker 15: seen all the. Trailers in The platina, locker e speed
Speaker 15: like who raised?
Speaker 13: You you?
Speaker 2: Know Kenny klein for anybody who might not, know was
Speaker 2: a long time Legendaries hall Of fame sports information. Director
Speaker 2: louisville went To, murray started At, morehead landed the job
Speaker 2: AT u OF l and stay there and Now patino
Speaker 2: took him with up to NEW i guess he's spending
Speaker 2: his well.
Speaker 15: Year they had a sicknet so their S i d got.
Speaker 15: Six so he Called kenny and was, like, hey you
Speaker 15: need you for like a few, weeks and then they
Speaker 15: were winning and then he's made it worth his. While he's,
Speaker 15: like you're not leaving, Nice SO i know where's The
Speaker 15: we're barreling down the down barryl. Four, Hey Saint john's
Speaker 15: going to be a, Three louis will be a. Six
Speaker 15: they'll meet in the second round In, lexington After louisville
Speaker 15: has the sixth, place Calim perry as the eleven there In.
Speaker 3: Lexington oh that would.
Speaker 2: Be and don't think for a second that the committee
Speaker 2: doesn't look at. That they say they, don't but we
Speaker 2: know they. Do, hell they're going for ratings or selling?
Speaker 2: Tickets why?
Speaker 3: Not, Right, well so.
Speaker 15: Many things you just can't, avoid you, know if there
Speaker 15: was a three ones of, six which is what it looks,
Speaker 15: like you, KNOW i, mean it's just there's a pretty
Speaker 15: good chance it's gonna. Happen AND i think we could
Speaker 15: like It's Chris mack and win his league is the,
Speaker 15: fourteen Then patino could play him in the First raven
Speaker 15: just have the greatest you, know first second round pod.
Speaker 3: Ever, yeah, Well i'll let you go with.
Speaker 2: THIS i know you got things going, on But i'm
Speaker 2: curious About kentucky in the postseason because of depth. Issues
Speaker 2: But i'm wondering how well Is louisville built for the?
Speaker 3: Postseason do you?
Speaker 14: Think, WELL i, mean depth is they don't have.
Speaker 15: Much but that's actually you know, AGAIN i think that
Speaker 15: sort of helped them come together because they have a
Speaker 15: very specific rotation because they don't have many, options uh
Speaker 15: in there and so you, know really Rain smith's injury
Speaker 15: is one that we're really watching because it was a
Speaker 15: non contact injury last night and.
Speaker 16: He's just they're just out OF i need to, Lose
Speaker 16: so you.
Speaker 15: Know that one would really concern me because then they
Speaker 15: really wouldn't have the real sharpshooter that he's one of the.
Speaker 15: Best he had ten threes in the game earlier this.
Speaker 15: Year so, yeah that one wanted to watch this. Team
Speaker 15: i'm not telling them something they can't, do and it's
Speaker 15: it's the smartest Team i've ever seen. It and they
Speaker 15: go To kelsey sometimes in four games and tell them
Speaker 15: that they decided who should guard who because they've already
Speaker 15: watched tak on their Next. Wow, Yeah i've never heard of.
Speaker 2: That Did kelsey know that about? Them or is that
Speaker 2: something that has even surprised him because obviously he had
Speaker 2: to pick and choose or got to pick and choose
Speaker 2: a little bit Like Mark pope.
Speaker 13: Did.
Speaker 15: YEAH i mean he had a statistical profile for all
Speaker 15: the guys he, likes turn for, ratio high free throw.
Speaker 16: Percentage, YEAH i don't know some of the other, metrics.
Speaker 15: BUT i think he thought he was getting some of.
Speaker 15: That BUT i don't think anybody Could i've never heard of.
Speaker 15: That i've never heard, of you, know saying, hey we've
Speaker 15: looked at this and we think he should you, know
Speaker 15: this person should guard this person because of, this because
Speaker 15: they've looked at.
Speaker 16: It and he was, like, okay you know you don't
Speaker 16: need no need buying at that, point and they just you,
Speaker 16: know they've.
Speaker 15: Got some, good really good coaches as well to understand
Speaker 15: the matchups and what to do in.
Speaker 14: Games so it's just night and day over.
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Speaker 2: drew Dener real's No i'm.
Speaker 15: Off, YEAH i have taken that uh you, know loaded
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Speaker 15: fired and never hired and put it.
Speaker 13: Away good for, YOU i am, Yeah i'm.
Speaker 2: OUT i THOUGHT i Thought drew deaner real was, real
Speaker 2: because Not Drew deaner is not, you, obviously so uh,
Speaker 2: well you, know imitation is the sincerest form of Flattered
Speaker 2: deaner so maybe you should be.
Speaker 3: Flattered but but good for you for for jumping off.
Speaker 16: That, site saving myself from.
Speaker 13: Myself that a, Boy that a.
Speaker 3: Boy it's like it's like a car. Wreck you can't look.
Speaker 3: Away hey, man thanks a lot have fun this, postseason.
Speaker 13: All, right looking forward to.
Speaker 3: It we'll wrap up.
Speaker 2: With, heroes fools And flakes when we come back here
Speaker 2: on The Big Boon sider six thirty. Wlap welcome back
Speaker 2: to The Big Boon. Sider time now For, heroes fools And.
Speaker 3: Flakes and our hero.
Speaker 2: Tonight this is a little bit of a strong word
Speaker 2: hero but It's Rick. Patino it's not so much that
Speaker 2: he did anything, heroic but what he did With Jimmy
Speaker 2: fallon last, NIGHT i think just shows how he. IS
Speaker 2: i don't want to say, soften but he's changed his.
Speaker 2: Approach he's enjoying life a little. MORE i gave him
Speaker 2: full credit for the going on not just going on,
Speaker 2: foul and he's plugging his Beloved New york And Saint.
Speaker 2: John's but the song he did when he lip sync With,
Speaker 2: FALLON i thought was really, hilarious AND i Give patino full.
Speaker 2: Credit and you're gonna hear the whole thing coming up
Speaker 2: at the end, Here so kudos To Rick patino and
Speaker 2: whoever wrote that.
Speaker 3: Song by the, way.
Speaker 2: Our full tonight is whatever kid From Old dominion committed
Speaker 2: a late. Foul i'm not gonna name his, name AND
Speaker 2: i want to call out the kid by, name but
Speaker 2: his team we're talking about The Sunbelt Conference, tournament third.
Speaker 3: Round Old dominion hits.
Speaker 2: A go ahead three with one point one seconds. Left,
Speaker 2: okay one point one and obviously Now Texas state has
Speaker 2: to take it out of bounds and haul it in
Speaker 2: and put up you, know the, prayer the try for
Speaker 2: the miracle half court, shot and a.
Speaker 3: Kid From Old dominion fouls.
Speaker 2: HIM i have seen this so many times with somebody
Speaker 2: whose only hope is to throw one in from half.
Speaker 2: Court and for whatever, REASON i don't know if it's
Speaker 2: instinct or, what this kid who's threw up the, shot
Speaker 2: he hadn't even made it to half. Court he was
Speaker 2: on the sideline just beyond the hash, mark and the
Speaker 2: kid From Old dominion tries to block the shot fouls.
Speaker 2: Him but, sadly For Texas, state kids missed free throws
Speaker 2: and they've missed a chance at sending the game into.
Speaker 2: Overtime AND i also wonder do coaches not tell them
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere near the guy with the, ball take
Speaker 2: it completely away from the. Officials and it was a good.
Speaker 2: CALL i got knocked a shoot. Down why why even
Speaker 2: try our flick. TONIGHT i don't, know maybe this should
Speaker 2: be a fool is The La, dodgers because they're looking
Speaker 2: at Signing Dave, roberts their, manager to a long term.
Speaker 2: Extension everybody's reporting on. It who covers The Big League
Speaker 2: Baseball New York post had an, exclusive although everybody else
Speaker 2: had the. Story they've been talking about a new deal
Speaker 2: since the start Of, february and the word is that
Speaker 2: he may sign a record for baseball. Managers the largest
Speaker 2: contract ever right now that among current managers belongs To
Speaker 2: Craig council five, years forty million when he left The
Speaker 2: brewers for The.
Speaker 3: Cubs that was In november.
Speaker 2: Twenty, three and the word is they Expect roberts to top.
Speaker 2: That but his, deal that's great heading into his tenth
Speaker 2: season with The, dodgers but you're just gonna fire him.
Speaker 2: Anyway it just seems, like tell me a manager who
Speaker 2: left in his own.
Speaker 3: Terms Tito francona. Did now he's, back that's gonna do.
Speaker 2: It thanks so much To Jeff, Ocoro Van, Hiles Drew,
Speaker 2: diener and we leave you now with The Sea shanty
Speaker 2: courtesy of The Jimmy Fallon show in nbcwl E. X
Speaker 2: that aired last night on The Fallon. Show he is
Speaker 2: clearly A Saint john's, fan and so is the person
Speaker 2: who wrote the song and produced the. Video they did
Speaker 2: a great. Job that's a good. Night from the garage In.
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Speaker 4: sugar and depends their, Roar let's Go Saint John's Red.
Speaker 5: Storm soon The Red storm comes to rock the rim
Speaker 5: and make go.
Speaker 3: Run one day when the winning is, Done we'll cut the.
Speaker 6: Nets and go draining freeze for through the.
Speaker 9: Hoop lay a pump fake galley To johnny's march to
Speaker 9: victory the champs up the Big.
Speaker 5: Ees Soon may The Red storm comes to rock the
Speaker 5: rim and make go. Run one, day when the winning is,
Speaker 5: Done we'll cut the nets and go do.
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Speaker 4: Dot dog back on.
Speaker 9: Top but for twenty five, years led by a coach
Speaker 9: we all revere a legendary man among his.
Speaker 4: Peers his name Is Rick.
Speaker 5: Fittino Soon may The Red storm comes to rock the
Speaker 5: rim and make go. Run one day when the winning is,
Speaker 5: done we'll.
Speaker 6: Cut the nets and got.
Speaker 8: Tact even, then can anything then.
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