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<v Speaker 1>Weird things, weird, weird, weird, those different experiences and that

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<v Speaker 1>like if I was that infinite ball of energy, I

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<v Speaker 1>would want to experience everything possible by throwing myself into

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<v Speaker 1>billions of different entities, you know, and having continuous different experience.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like a paradox to think about from a

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<v Speaker 2>human perspective, right, Like, you know, because then I think

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<v Speaker 2>about this perfect being and I'm like, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>do this? Why would you do this? But then it's

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<v Speaker 2>like but I also kind of get it because it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not, right, It's like if you didn't do this,

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<v Speaker 3>then just what nothing ever happens ever, and there's no

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<v Speaker 3>purpose or point to anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of you know there, Yes, literally it's gray.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nothing. It's more interesting this way, infinitely infinitely more interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's you know, like yeah, the gray, the in between everything.

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<v Speaker 3>No hot, no cold, no good, no bad, no nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>no hungry, no full.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's above my pay grade.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about when you're freaking hungry for twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 3>you do a twenty four hour fast, or let's just

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<v Speaker 3>say you go a day and you don't get to

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<v Speaker 3>eat for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you freaking eat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the best thing that's ever happen It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of nice. Yes, it's like the best thing that's ever

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<v Speaker 3>happened to you. Yeah, it's like the good stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>infinitely better when you had to go through something difficult

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<v Speaker 3>to get to it, right, it's infinitely more rewarding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's how I like to think. It makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>like God being like, Okay, I'm perfect, I'm omniscient whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>But like what if I actually went down there and

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<v Speaker 2>like tested.

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<v Speaker 3>Myself, Yeah, saw what it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just like just to see, yeah, I'm back stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's over my pay grade to understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>But in Genesis, the serpent or nahash in Hebrew represents

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<v Speaker 2>the emerging self consciousness and intellectual principle within humanity. This

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<v Speaker 2>symbol reflects the inward life principle that awakens as the

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<v Speaker 2>monad becomes aware of itself as an individual or a

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<v Speaker 2>self conscious being. The serpent embodies the nascent self hood

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<v Speaker 2>and the mental faculties introduced by the elohem which bring

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<v Speaker 2>the monad into mental life and self awareness. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty powerful. I'm gonna read one more part again,

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<v Speaker 2>this symbol being the serpent reflects the inward life principle

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<v Speaker 2>that awakens as the monad becomes aware of itself as

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<v Speaker 2>an individual. Think about that. The whole big crux of

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<v Speaker 2>all of these wisdom traditions, the whole point of all

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<v Speaker 2>of it, the whole point of their secret mystery initiations

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<v Speaker 2>spanning thousands and thousands of years, was trying to reveal

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<v Speaker 2>to the initiates there's another world. You're asleep. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to be awake and understand the duality. It's like you're

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<v Speaker 2>in material world, but there's a whole spiritual existence. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's talking about the symbol of the serpent

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<v Speaker 2>being that in word principle, the kundalini as it rises

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<v Speaker 2>up our spine as we become awakened beings. Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty powerful stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very much so. It's symbolic. It's what everything is

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<v Speaker 3>all about. It's like the only true purpose of us

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<v Speaker 3>being here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very interesting in the Secret Teaching of all

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<v Speaker 2>ages when they talk about like the trials and tribulations

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<v Speaker 2>that the initiates of these ancient societies would go through,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, the druids, the Eleusinianies, the temples of Mithra,

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<v Speaker 2>of APIs, the Bowl of Osiris, of Tamus, of Nimrod,

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<v Speaker 2>of all of these different societies, they would virtually do

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<v Speaker 2>the same things. And it's that they would simulate. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>and the Freemasons do this and their rituals. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>little different because it's modern times, but they simulate spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>concepts in a kind of like shocking and sometimes traumatizing

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<v Speaker 2>or horrifying way to the initiate. So like the longer

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<v Speaker 2>the initiate would go on this path and prove to

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<v Speaker 2>their I guess you could say, you know, master or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>that they're worthy to learn the knowledge. Then they would

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<v Speaker 2>be tested, and like in ancient Greece, they would put

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<v Speaker 2>them through. Sometimes it would be labyrinths. Yeah, sometimes it

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<v Speaker 2>would be the druids would take them out deep into

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<v Speaker 2>the forest and they would have all the other like

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<v Speaker 2>high level initiates in on it, and they would set

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<v Speaker 2>up these simulations, and like they would wear costumes and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they would like, you know, oh, you're in hell,

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<v Speaker 2>you who enter here, and like horrify them. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they would lay traps and dangerous obstacles. Then they would

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<v Speaker 2>have to survive.

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<v Speaker 3>This is how spartans are raised.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was like this six years old.

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<v Speaker 3>They steal them away and throw them into the tundra, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have to just survive. And they would lay

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<v Speaker 3>traps for them and.

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<v Speaker 2>People would die. Yeah, going through these initiations. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you reveal any of this, then we're gonna kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna ice you seriously. They would kill them, like literally.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why in the Freemason Oath it says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you reveal the secrets, they'll slit you up in

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<v Speaker 2>with the sword. Yeah, it's ancient tradition.

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<v Speaker 4>No one takes anything seriously anymore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are just giving it all away, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>pirrating it.

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<v Speaker 3>But listen, I'm gonna go out and say this that

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<v Speaker 3>when we're finally done with Bledsoe said, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>cut our guts open on camera.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, we can't be done not condone that behavior, right,

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<v Speaker 4>we actively condemned that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, at least in modern times. Yeah, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cool to read about them doing it back then. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And and the reason they would do this though,

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<v Speaker 2>is because think about it, man, the church, The church

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<v Speaker 2>you know, mainly was in power for thousands of years

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<v Speaker 2>throughout Europe and the world, right, yeah, which you know

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of like I guess back then it

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, America went around, you know, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was over there where they were all neighbors, and.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to Japan. Did you watch Shogun?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's a great point. Crazy, and they just

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<v Speaker 2>like any different idea to their faith, they were killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was heretical. They were literally waging war against it.

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<v Speaker 2>So these ancient societies knew that they were constantly under

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<v Speaker 2>threat of death, so they were testing their initiates to

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<v Speaker 2>the highest level to make sure that they were like

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<v Speaker 2>worthy to hold these secrets and never reveal them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so like pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's honestly bad ass, but like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not very different than God Abraham to kill his son.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, you're right. And oh, the odentic mysteries,

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<v Speaker 2>they had all kinds of initiations and rites odin you know,

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<v Speaker 2>oh okay, yeah, and it's it's just it's crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>think about like they would they would, uh, they would

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<v Speaker 2>personify the mysteries of you know, hades or hell or

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<v Speaker 2>like the perils of what happens to the soul if

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't become enlightened, and just like, you know, shock

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of these people. It's it's really cool

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<v Speaker 2>to read about. But yeah, anyway, moving on from that,

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<v Speaker 2>the devil's influence is threefold, according to the theosophic perspective

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, the creation and Gardener of Eden story,

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<v Speaker 2>involving mental, emotional, and physical temptations. First, the temporary union

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<v Speaker 2>of opposite polarities and man and woman creates a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of returning to the unipolarized consciousness of the monad, offering

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<v Speaker 2>mental felicity. Second, emotional fulfillment arises from the expression of

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<v Speaker 2>love and desire. That's what talking about earlier. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like we incarnate here with these sexual urges and that's

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<v Speaker 2>like the curse, right. But then it's like, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can use it for good. You can use it for love,

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<v Speaker 2>yes you can. You can use it in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a pure and in a like you know, like an

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<v Speaker 2>innocent way. Like it says it was related to this

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the text that I read, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like Jesus said, in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be pure as a child and I've

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<v Speaker 2>always thought about that, Like I never thought about it

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<v Speaker 2>like that, like to to that, you know, in this

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<v Speaker 2>sexual way. I never thought about it like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>the theosophical perspective related it to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because again it's it's something of nature and if

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<v Speaker 3>you give it a positive meaning, then it's a positive

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<v Speaker 3>It's not evil, not at all like the church, which

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<v Speaker 3>is wild. Yes, because the church that very much does

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<v Speaker 3>want you to believe that like.

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<v Speaker 2>Sex is evil and completely oppress it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean there are like extremist groups that like

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<v Speaker 3>even in marriage that are like sex is only procreation

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<v Speaker 3>and that's it. Yeah, that's it. And it's like okay man,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a pretty beautiful thing, like it's it is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most beautiful things about Okay, I heard

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<v Speaker 3>like a base like a slap base line when you

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<v Speaker 3>said that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but that's that's real stuff, man, That's that's it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I it can both be it can simultaneously be truly

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most beautiful things in life, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>it could be abuse, abused and bastardized, and it can

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<v Speaker 3>be one of the most horrific things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, yeah, it's like weaponized by modern society.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, like literally absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>But.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, yes, So it's it's just fascinating. And also you

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<v Speaker 2>could see why this could be considered you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>taboo they're talking about this, But I mean, really, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, we incarnate here with certain physiology, certain spiritual, intellectual,

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<v Speaker 2>mental impulses. Everybody's the same in in that in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that you know, we we all have these thoughts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're born with them, right, That's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say, Like, and you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just another test, It's just another test of this

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<v Speaker 3>material realm, right, that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So it says that, oh yeah, because I was saying

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<v Speaker 2>the expression of love and desire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Third, because we're talking about the threefold temptation of the

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<v Speaker 2>devil according to the creation story, right, the serpent. Third,

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<v Speaker 2>physical procreation induces pleasurable sensations. Really this three.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? Really? I always wondered.

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me now for the first time, This threefold

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<v Speaker 2>experience mental, emotional, and physical lures the monad ego into

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<v Speaker 2>embracing the phase of existence, the involutionary process and myth

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<v Speaker 2>of original sin. So I didn't understand what evolutionary meant

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to look it up and it makes.

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<v Speaker 3>Sense in word evolution kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well kind of. But it's also like it and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a de evolution, but it's like making things

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<v Speaker 2>more complicated and tangled up. So think about it. The

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<v Speaker 2>involutionary process perfect god right, Yeah, involutes down into material reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's evolving again. It willfully involutes down to this

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up place by choice, by free will. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a hell of a ride. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna forget when I get there, and I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>eight million other people, you know. But that's what they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about when they say involution in mathematical terms. It

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<v Speaker 2>things like tangling up. So it's it's making things more complicated,

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I'm thinking of that guy at work that makes

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<v Speaker 4>everything more complicated than it has to be. You can

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of sounds like it does.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is really interesting. The formal definition of

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<v Speaker 3>the state of being involved or complicated. But then the

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<v Speaker 3>mathematic the mathematical definition is a function, transformation, or operator

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<v Speaker 3>that is equal to its inverse. That's pretty crazy as

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<v Speaker 3>of so below. I mean, yeah, true, that's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Again though, it's that light evil path of Kabala. It's

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<v Speaker 2>sense that you know, we were this perfect angel of

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. We fall down into material reality and now

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<v Speaker 2>we're Jesus or Christ or you could even say we're Buddha.

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<v Speaker 2>We're ascending back up through like the humble path, through

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<v Speaker 2>learning the lessons, through the suffering. Okay, there, now, how

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<v Speaker 2>can I like not suffer anymore and go back home? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the whole esoteric view. In a nutshell, the

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<v Speaker 2>descent into matter, guided by the Satanic hierarchy is a

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<v Speaker 2>natural process rather than a challenge fault of a tragic fault.

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<v Speaker 2>and what they mean by that, because it's an allegory.

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<v Speaker 2>While it brings suffering in challenges, it is not the

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<v Speaker 2>result of a moral failing, but an essential step in

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<v Speaker 2>interpreted in orthodox theology, is rejected in theosophy. Instead, the

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<v Speaker 2>so called sin is viewed as a necessary phase in

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<v Speaker 2>the journey toward mastery over the creative forces of nature. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's that tantric theme, right, that we can subdue our impulses,

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<v Speaker 2>or like they say in alchemy, when you see these

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<v Speaker 2>the philosopher's stone, and across the bladis at azof it's

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<v Speaker 2>showing that he's mastered nature, he's become a god, he's

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<v Speaker 2>become a mortal, but he subdued the flesh right the

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<v Speaker 2>devil as a force for liberation. A lifeus Levi, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this one was interesting. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 2>Magic describes Satan not as a black god, but as

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<v Speaker 2>the negation of deity, a force created with a good

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<v Speaker 2>purpose that can be applied to both good and evil.

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<v Speaker 2>In this view of the devil is not a personified being,

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<v Speaker 2>but a force that offers the potential for liberty, challenging

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I'm just going to keep going, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to explain what I think that means. The

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<v Speaker 2>This stage is known as individualization, where a spark of

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<v Speaker 2>a different being, right. This process involves the development of

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<v Speaker 2>self conscious thought and self realization. Another aspect of this

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<v Speaker 2>hierarchy involves the monad ego inhabiting an emotional body to

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<v Speaker 2>experience sexual desire. This descent culminates in a physical body,

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<v Speaker 2>where the life force manifests through human love, desire, and procreation.

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<v Speaker 2>So again it's saying here that the the whatever entities,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever thought forms, are causing us to descend into material reality.

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<v Speaker 2>It's us in a much higher way, right, And we

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<v Speaker 2>know that it's going to be trials, that it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be suffering, that it's going to be painful, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, but it's a part of our journey. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it anyway. We're gonna go down and descend.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea here is that over time, the humans of

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<v Speaker 2>the world, creating all their different mythologies, have soonified Satan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet you see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not saying, you know, worship Satan or any

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<v Speaker 2>of that dark show. That's not what this is saying,

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<v Speaker 2>not at all. What it is saying is that it

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<v Speaker 2>does not believe that the actual idea of a personified

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<v Speaker 2>dark force, a singular dark force, exists, but actually that

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<v Speaker 2>it's men, that it's man, that it's people, that it's

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<v Speaker 2>dark magicians who abuse you know, the the the powers

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<v Speaker 2>that we have inherently a spiritual beings descending from God. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole version of Atlantis, according to them, is that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was it was black magicians who fucked

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<v Speaker 2>everything up for us, you know, abusing their spiritual power.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like that idea, Like, even before reading Theosophy,

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<v Speaker 2>I've kind of thought, you know, I really don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense for there to be a single personified

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<v Speaker 2>dark force, right, it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't if we don't think about like God

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<v Speaker 3>as a singular higher entity, singular entity than like why

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<v Speaker 3>would why would I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of God as literally everything?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but the Christian view is like, but the Devil's everywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Or is it just a part of our

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<v Speaker 2>nature experiencing suffering being here in material reality, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's it's like it's like again, it's like black

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<v Speaker 2>and white, yan and Yang, Like we come here as

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<v Speaker 2>beings that have the potential for good and evil. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not to us, you know, to make that choice to

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<v Speaker 2>be good, but we have we have that other polarity

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<v Speaker 2>inside of us. Everybody has the capability to do bad,

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<v Speaker 2>just like they have the capability to do good. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>And I almost feel like because I believe so much

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<v Speaker 2>in like the I don't know what you would call it,

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<v Speaker 2>like the the fact that the universe is a sacred

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<v Speaker 2>creation of God or you know whatever, this higher forces.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like it doesn't make sense for there

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<v Speaker 2>to be some like really highly you know, ultra powerful

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<v Speaker 2>deity just like in control of everything. Like I really

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<v Speaker 2>feel like if there are these negative entities that exist,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps they've been created by us.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I was gonna say that, I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. It's like the dark forces is the

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<v Speaker 3>evils of men. But that is not to say that

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<v Speaker 3>those evils don't carry energy of their own or exist

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<v Speaker 3>even exactly. Yeah, like like from that evil energy that

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<v Speaker 3>is inherent in men, and it's like possible in all

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<v Speaker 3>men could emerge dark spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same sense that there have been good wisdom

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<v Speaker 2>traditions throughout the time, like you know, protecting this knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been bad ones. Yeah, there have been dark ones.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe that, you know a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>very ancient bloodline groups are responsible for like programming a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of this stuff into humanity and like giving power

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<v Speaker 2>to these ego gorees. It's just the agenda that's being

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<v Speaker 2>pushed as far as UFOs and the alien story. It's negative.

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<v Speaker 2>It's we have no evidence that it's positive. We have

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<v Speaker 2>no evidence that it's good, and it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's they're pushing the envelope on this negative story. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean literally just the other day there was like breaking

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<v Speaker 2>information and I'll tell you later. I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth my energy to even you know, acknowledge who

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. But it's negative shit, bro, and these

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<v Speaker 2>people in power are always creating this negative stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I really have a hard time believing that like

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<v Speaker 2>some Satanic entity was like you're trapped here forever and

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<v Speaker 2>you're in hell, you know, kind of like the Gnostic

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<v Speaker 2>way or you know, even like you know, other traditions.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to think that, you know, the negative force

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<v Speaker 2>that exists are thought forms.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is a negative resonance to to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of Satan and the idea of the devil,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's been charged with a specific meaning an idea

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<v Speaker 2>for thousands of years. So I would not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>recommend people go plan with that kind of idea, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to maybe consider the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have sovereignty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know what I mean, Yeah, we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Prisoners to some evil deity, right, maybe we are a

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<v Speaker 2>part of God, and we did choose to come here, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with the suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's ultimately our decision. And if you decide

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<v Speaker 3>to meddle with the darker side of things like there

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<v Speaker 3>there will be consequence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think about like a kyber crystal and how

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<v Speaker 3>it can be tainted by the intent of the holder.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it can be turned dark red like evil,

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<v Speaker 3>by the intent of the user. It's like a sacred thing,

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<v Speaker 3>a sacred light bringing thing, and it can be corrupted

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<v Speaker 3>by the dark intent of the holder.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there any record of it going the other way?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is once it's corrupted you because of red?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the way they describe it is. And actually I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't watch The Acolyte, but because I heard it was

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<v Speaker 3>I but they actually, for the first time ever, showed

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<v Speaker 3>a kyber crystal being bled and it's actually like you're

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<v Speaker 3>bleeding it, like you're you're like sucking the good energy

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<v Speaker 3>out of it, like permanently you're bleeding it of all

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<v Speaker 3>of it's like positive energy. Well, I have two.

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<v Speaker 2>Two red.

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<v Speaker 3>One's red, one's green.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, I don't know which one is. In Merry Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>I think of red and green.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think of Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they got me at the thing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I told this story already. Very I don't remember as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid was red.

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<v Speaker 4>I never I've never seen Star Wars at the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I got a red lightsaber.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is sick.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, then we're in the thing making the lightsaber

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like, in your mind's eye, what color is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I had everybody closing their eyes in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they were real into it. It was kind of cool,

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<v Speaker 4>And then I just like went back and saw my

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<v Speaker 4>childhood self, like it's gotta be red. So I picked

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<v Speaker 4>the red one, and then then I regretted it, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I went to the thing and got a green one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because when it's all unveiled, everybody just looks at

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<v Speaker 3>you holding the red lightsabers like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, it was like everybody in there was red.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, it was a Sith meet up.

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<v Speaker 2>That sucks, man, straight up.

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<v Speaker 3>A I think there was like one blue.

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<v Speaker 2>And two greens. Got our light bar colors?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, I'm Mace Windu.

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<v Speaker 2>You got red on the bar though?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, whatever, I got a little bit more on genesis here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get through it and

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll switch to revelations. But yeah, So the lo

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<v Speaker 2>Heeman case, the monad and a mental body creating a

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<v Speaker 2>strong sense of individuality marked by egoism and selfishness, personified

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<v Speaker 2>by the figure of the devil. So again, it's like

424
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<v Speaker 2>these higher spiritual entities came here and it's like, you know,

425
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<v Speaker 2>splits into different individual beings and over time it's been

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<v Speaker 2>personified as the devil. Right, that's the idea. This represents

427
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<v Speaker 2>this separation and the ego driven aspects of human nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me say like this, This is I think an

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<v Speaker 2>easier way to summarize this because this is a big

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<v Speaker 2>challenge for me, Like how do I make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>people understand what I mean here when I start talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the devil and all that, because I am by

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<v Speaker 2>no means into that. I'm just talking symbolism. If I

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<v Speaker 2>could put it as simple as possible, I would think

435
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<v Speaker 2>that what's being stated by these wisdom traditions is that

436
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<v Speaker 2>the ego is the devil. If there is a devil,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the ego. That is inherent in all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single one of these wisdom or secret mystery traditions

439
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<v Speaker 2>have these same principles and the same path, which is

440
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<v Speaker 2>becoming in life and through the subduing of your ego.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill the ego, yes, yeah, or rather overcome it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you think it's that this is I'm asking

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<v Speaker 4>your personal opinion? Do you think it is that the

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<v Speaker 4>ego in its entirety is the bad thing? Or do

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<v Speaker 4>you think it's because the ego is responsible for all

447
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<v Speaker 4>of the bad doings?

448
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, man, how could I know the answer?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? I don't think that it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm asking your ego is bad, then we're

451
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<v Speaker 2>all bad?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm asking your opinion, Like, where what do you think?

454
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<v Speaker 2>I think that just like you know, you boot up

455
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<v Speaker 2>a computer and it has an operating system and it

456
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<v Speaker 2>has certain rules that it follows to function. I think

457
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<v Speaker 2>that the human experience is the same way, and everybody

458
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<v Speaker 2>comes here with an ego, and everybody has the challenge

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<v Speaker 2>of ah dissolving it to be more you know, loving,

460
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<v Speaker 2>or more humble or you know, all the good qualities, right,

461
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think like it's I think you can be

462
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<v Speaker 2>the person you are and be great and even more

463
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<v Speaker 2>when you overcome your ego. Because I've had this conversation

464
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<v Speaker 2>with other people where they're like, well, you know, the

465
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<v Speaker 2>ego is a good thing and it's responsible for you know,

466
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<v Speaker 2>getting you this and that and the other. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not really, because the ego is responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>certain qualities, like you know, like it's it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>say on the spot, but it's like the.

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<v Speaker 4>First thing that comes to my mind is being successful

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<v Speaker 4>in the material realm. Like I think that, like being

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<v Speaker 4>really good at doing something or a marketable skill is

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<v Speaker 4>like an ego driven thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you can do that without an ego.

475
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<v Speaker 2>You can do that with intelligence and intuition and wisdom,

476
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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like, I don't think that's

477
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<v Speaker 2>just because of the ego, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>When I think of the ego, I think of like me,

479
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<v Speaker 2>like selfishness, it's like arrogance, like pride, like you know,

480
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<v Speaker 2>the impulses to do the things that are self serving,

481
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<v Speaker 2>beneficial for me and not those around me, and helpful

482
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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's interesting is it's to what you think is

484
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<v Speaker 3>you right right. It's I feel I look at the

485
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<v Speaker 3>ego as the tether to the material world. It's like

486
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<v Speaker 3>the thing that tethers your spirits and your idea of you. Yes,

487
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<v Speaker 3>your idea, this liked fake thing that you've made up,

488
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<v Speaker 3>that this is me, the thoughts that I have is me.

489
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<v Speaker 3>Like that, it's the tether to the material world. And

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<v Speaker 3>the point of killing it or overcoming it is like

491
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<v Speaker 3>it's the lightning bulb path.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's awakening past the ego.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you came down here materialized. Your ego is your

494
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<v Speaker 3>tether to the material world. But the goal is ultimately

495
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<v Speaker 3>to ascend back to that original consciousness, that primordial you know,

496
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<v Speaker 3>love and light. And you do that by overcoming the ego.

497
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<v Speaker 3>So if you can do that within your lifetime, you

498
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<v Speaker 3>get a taste of returning to that consciousness, to that.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Light, I think you can be even more successful, more driven,

500
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<v Speaker 2>more everything. Like I think that people think about it wrong.

501
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 2>It's not like, okay, you know, now my life's boring

502
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<v Speaker 2>and YadA, YadA, YadA. Like I think I think you

503
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.039
<v Speaker 2>become who you really are supposed to be when you

504
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:26.559
<v Speaker 2>overcome the ego. I think you put it in a

505
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 2>great way. It's like it's your attachment to the material,

506
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>but also your attachment to it's like they say in

507
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<v Speaker 2>theosophic terms, like you're your your delusional understanding of who

508
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<v Speaker 2>you are in reality. Yes, from the ego, it's delusion.

509
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<v Speaker 2>It's living in delusion, having you know, the ego.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that delusion is the ego that it's the tether,

511
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<v Speaker 3>it's the it's the thing that lets you walk around

512
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<v Speaker 3>in this material world and think you're doing something. Thank you,

513
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<v Speaker 3>Really I'm doing something. Man, I got this badass new

514
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<v Speaker 3>job and make all his money, you know whatever, YadA, YadA, YadA.

515
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<v Speaker 3>But it's like that's not even you. Like, the thing

516
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 3>that's walking around doing all that stuff is not even

517
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<v Speaker 3>actually you. That's the ego that you're living in the

518
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 3>delusion of the ego and subservience too. Absolutely, and that's

519
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<v Speaker 3>not a bad thing.

520
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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think anybody should be offended by that,

521
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<v Speaker 2>because here's the big secret. We all are born with this. Yeah. Yeah,

522
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<v Speaker 2>just like we're all born with the potential to do

523
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<v Speaker 2>good and to do bad. We all came from the

524
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 2>same place and we all live in the same place,

525
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 2>and we're all trying to get back to the same place.

526
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<v Speaker 2>We have the same challenges, we have the same obstacles.

527
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<v Speaker 2>They might manifest differently. Yeah, but I'm just saying we're

528
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<v Speaker 2>on an even playing field here. And you know, then

529
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<v Speaker 2>you could say, well, no, we're not, because people are

530
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<v Speaker 2>born with disabilities and people are born with X, Y

531
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<v Speaker 2>Z other disadvantages, and you know what, You're right, Yeah,

532
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<v Speaker 2>and I can't possibly understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that everybody lives within the ego. I

534
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<v Speaker 3>think even human beings who have reached enlightenment still at

535
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<v Speaker 3>times live within their ego telling a joke. That's interesting

536
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<v Speaker 3>you say that telling a joke is living in your ego,

537
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 3>because why would a why would an enlightened spirit being

538
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 3>tell a joke?

539
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>This talks about like what what we're getting into now.

540
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<v Speaker 2>It talks about that spiritual uh symbol of the serpent,

541
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, being like Kundalini, it's going up your spine

542
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Right, that's that energy in us that we

543
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 2>can transmute to higher potential. It talks about it being

544
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>undulating like a wave. And I think that that's pretty profound. Like,

545
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I think I think it's not

546
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a straightforward path necessarily but it is kind of like

547
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 2>a spiral path, like we're we're we're still going up,

548
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 2>but maybe you stumble a little bit, maybe you're back

549
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 2>in your old ways. That's that's why I say this

550
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<v Speaker 2>a lot on the show. It's not about being perfect.

551
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Just keep fucking going, Just keep trying, like you're not

552
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>just gonna wake up and be like I'll never sin again. No, no,

553
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, might running off the road, you motherfucker.

554
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<v Speaker 3>As long as you are, alright, a human being, you're

555
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<v Speaker 3>gonna you're gonna act like a human being from time

556
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<v Speaker 3>to time at very least.

557
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<v Speaker 2>It's like what you said, it's your intention to do good.

558
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.039
<v Speaker 2>It's it's that kernel of intention. That's actually what it

559
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<v Speaker 2>says in Theosophy. We talked about it on the on

560
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<v Speaker 2>the the Ageless Wisdom episode, they talk about like I

561
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<v Speaker 2>think it was the first or second great initiation of

562
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<v Speaker 2>the soul. It's like, you know, the ascended masters up

563
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<v Speaker 2>in the realms above, they're like, oh, look, this soul

564
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<v Speaker 2>has the kernel of the intention to do good. Let's

565
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<v Speaker 2>help them now, Yeah that intention.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we said that at one point recently, Like I

567
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<v Speaker 3>think being a good person is the intention and the

568
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 3>desire to be a good person. It's not doing good

569
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<v Speaker 3>all of the time. I agree, it's the intention that matters.

570
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<v Speaker 2>I fully agree. All right, let me see I already

571
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<v Speaker 2>saw this part. Another aspect of this hierarchy involves, Oh no, no,

572
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<v Speaker 2>let me skip one more. I'm sorry. The devil serpentine form. Wow,

573
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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking about this. The devil serpentine form

574
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<v Speaker 2>symbolizes the undulatory nature of generative power in both nature

575
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and humans. The serpent's role in the allegory of Adam

576
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 2>and Eve's temptation represents the allure from innocence to sexual experience,

577
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>mirroring the undulating current of life force which has veiled

578
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 2>in esoteric symbology like Kundalini. So before we came here,

579
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 2>we were completely impurely innocent, spiritual beings. We didn't need

580
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 2>to physically pro create. We were free from these ego

581
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>attachments of you know, pleasure and lust and greed and

582
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>all these things that we know can suffer with if

583
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it's abused and out of balance and mortal life. And

584
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>we said, okay, we're going to go down there and

585
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>experience that, you know, good luck, you know, keep going,

586
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, the tree of knowledge of good and evil

587
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<v Speaker 2>in the Garden of Eden symbolizes the versal life force

588
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 2>imbued with intelligence. It represents cosmic electricity or the primordial

589
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 2>faux hat. I'm not sure what faux hat is, but

590
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<v Speaker 2>that's what it says, so I read it the fundamental

591
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<v Speaker 2>energy present in all matter. The tree's roots reach into

592
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 2>pre cosmic space, the undifferentiated substance, while it's trunk and

593
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>bodies divine generative power focused into the cosmos. This tree

594
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>parallels the cosmic and esoteric structures like solar systems, planetary

595
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>schemes of various life forms. This tree resembles symbols such

596
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<v Speaker 2>as the letter shin which is I think it's a

597
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Hebrew word, I mean letter, The cadusis of Hermes, and

598
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the Hindu Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. Ancient traditions like the

599
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Norse egdrasill to Hindu and Buddhist world trees, echoing the

600
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 2>symbolism of interconnected cosmic and life forces. Often associated with

601
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<v Speaker 2>the Tree of Life, The serpent or the dragon guards it,

602
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 2>representing both the allure of wisdom and the potential misuse

603
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>of power and eaten. The serpent's role as the temptation

604
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>which symbolizes the transition from innocence to the complexity of

605
00:32:56.240 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>knowledge and experience and Kabbalism or Kabbala. The tree symbolizes

606
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the macrocosm and the microcosm, revealing cosmic processes and human

607
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 2>relationships with the universe. The Garden of Eden, with its symbolism,

608
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 2>represents the dynamic interplay between primordial spirit and matter, with

609
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<v Speaker 2>Eve as the cosmic substance atam Is the creative spirit

610
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and the tree as their generative connection. The trunk of

611
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 2>the tree represents the spinal column in cord. Its branches

612
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.039
<v Speaker 2>are the body's nerves, while the flowers correspond to chakras

613
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<v Speaker 2>or the life force centers and their associated nerve centers

614
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>and glands like the pineal, the pituitary, the indocrine system,

615
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 2>the thaumus, the testes. That pause was so, just think

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<v Speaker 2>about it if I was gonna say it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, and it's the root, yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Root chakra, or maybe it's the sacral. But the fruit

619
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<v Speaker 2>symbolized oh, and the ovaries. The fruit symbolized the outcomes

620
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<v Speaker 2>of the evil lutionary process and the capacity of individuals

621
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<v Speaker 2>to channel and express the prime evil life force through

622
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>various levels of consciousness and physical aspects. In nature, these

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<v Speaker 2>fruits are the diverse forms of life continually produced. When

624
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<v Speaker 2>humans engage in procreation, they symbolically partake in the fruit

625
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The

626
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<v Speaker 2>biblical command against this act, whereas in Genesis two seventeen

627
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<v Speaker 2>says you know you'll be cursed to die, this might

628
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<v Speaker 2>conceal deeper esoteric wisdom, which in symbolic terms, death refers

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<v Speaker 2>to the spiritual deadness or a loss of higher awareness.

630
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<v Speaker 2>It is not talking about the physical death that people

631
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<v Speaker 2>think that it meant, not physical demise. Yet, the excessive

632
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<v Speaker 2>indulgence of these material desires can lead to a temporary

633
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<v Speaker 2>loss of spiritual insight, reflecting the idea that if misused,

634
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it can have negative outcomes that we have to be

635
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 2>in balance and moderation. In the Garden of Eden Adam.

636
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Adam represents the early passion free androgynous humans right, meaning

637
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't exist in the duality of the physical reality.

638
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 2>They were purely spiritual beings outside of the need for

639
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>any sort of procreation or whatever. Yeah, the state of

640
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 2>innocence persists from birth until puberty. The garden itself symbolizes

641
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the human body with Adam and Eve embodying the dual

642
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>creative energies, and the Tree of Life representing the spinal

643
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>cord in the brain. The Tree of Life with his

644
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 2>trunk symbolizing the spinal cord, channels the vital electrical energy.

645
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>During procreation. This energy moves downwards to the generative organs.

646
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>When sublimated, which is like tantra. Through spiritual practice, it

647
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.599
<v Speaker 2>can be redirected upwards towards the brain, enhancing spiritual awareness

648
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and unity with the divine source, like she talks about

649
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>with you know, supernatural humans, sages of the past. Oh wow,

650
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 2>through tantra.

651
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's a really cool description of tantra.

652
00:35:59.280 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Sublimation.

653
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the shifting of the energy to Yeah. Wow,

654
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 3>that's really cool.

655
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Secret of initiation. It involves the successful redirection of this

656
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 2>life force, making the initiative spiritually immortal or awaken like

657
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a god. The power can be constructive or destructive, so

658
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 2>it's uses guarded with the mystical traditions allegories like the

659
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Command and Eden concealed deeper teachings about this power. The

660
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 2>transition from Eden represents human puberty symbolically and metaphorically, symbolizing

661
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the loss of innocence. Full spiritual redemption or ascension into

662
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>a depth ship is achieved by transcending materialism and sensuality,

663
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>akin to the symbolic bondage narratives in the Old Testament,

664
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>such as Israelites in Egypt or Samson's imprisonment. So let's

665
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>get it straight here for a second. And I want

666
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge this. It's talking a lot about sex.

667
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, Genesis is largely about sex, exactly. Yeah.

668
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:56.159
<v Speaker 2>And my idea about this is that it's it's really

669
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<v Speaker 2>I think this is true for everything, right, Like let's

670
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 2>say you know you like gambling. It's fine, it gives

671
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you a sensation, right, but you just you can't stop,

672
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and you're addicted to it and you're like enslaved by itsulure. Well,

673
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, you got a problem. And I think that's

674
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>true for every uh, you could say vice. Like from

675
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the Gnostic perspective, it's like, we come here with seven

676
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 2>egoic attachments, which are understood as these seven deadly sins,

677
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 2>which I always can't name off the top of my head.

678
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, lust, pride, greed, wrath, fury, sloth,

679
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and envy. I did it?

680
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 3>You did it? I did it? You know. I think

681
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 3>isn't gluttony one of them? Or did you say that?

682
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Did I say that?

683
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Maybe? I think maybe.

684
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Lust, pride, greed, sloth, gluttony, envy, and fury wrath. You know,

685
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:54.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that these are the seven generic problems that

686
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 2>exist for everybody. Yes, absolutely, I just think that there's

687
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 2>something a little bit more special about like maybe you know,

688
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the sexual forest or the creative forest or whatever, because

689
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 2>like it literally has the occult power to create life,

690
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Like it is literally mirroring the act of you know,

691
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 2>primortal energies coming together in creating life.

692
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it could be seen as divine in that way.

693
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. So I think that maybe there's like great

694
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 2>emphasis in the ancient past of them being like, you know,

695
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>treat this carefully, you know that, don't don't abuse this power? Right. Yeah,

696
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting nonetheless to read about. Yeah, because your palms

697
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 2>will get hairy or something like that. You're in time out,

698
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.400
<v Speaker 2>You're you're in time definitely in time out.

699
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Bro, your palms didn't get hairy in time out?

700
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm almost done with Genesis. People believe it. Wow,

701
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>The Tree of Life symbolizes both the creative intellect and

702
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>the responsive nature of matter. In advanced evolution, its sap

703
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>represents the generative life force of the human mind. The

704
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>tree embodies human consciousness, while the serpent signifies that undulatory,

705
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>formative cosmic force. Right, it's the primordial force coiled around

706
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 2>the tree, symbolizing the act of creative power, just like

707
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the Kundalini serpents around our spine, right, Or like Moses

708
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 2>has a brass staff and there's a spine coiled around

709
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the staff. The caduces, Yes.

710
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what did I say spine?

711
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I meant the serpent is around the staff. The same

712
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.800
<v Speaker 2>with Hermes cadusis you know, it's serpents entwined around his

713
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 2>wand or his staff. It's obviously important symbolism here when depicted.

714
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes a single serpent or two serpents flanking the tree

715
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 2>illustrate the dynamic currents of this energy.

716
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Right.

717
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Their expulsion from Eden is the loss of innocence, the

718
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 2>temporary dormancy of the life force after procreation. This signifies

719
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the transition from pristine purity to evolutionary development and self

720
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:04.079
<v Speaker 2>unfoldment awakening Advanced enlightenment, evolution the Cherubim represent a hierarchy

721
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>associated with a positive life force. They are akin to

722
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 2>celestial scribes responsible for initiating and directing primordial forces and

723
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>esoteric terms. Esoteric and esoteric terms. They help manage the

724
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>flow of cosmic electricity, symbolized by the swastika, which actually

725
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 2>people might not know this, but that's a very ancient

726
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Hindu symbolist the sun.

727
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh it's the sun.

728
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

729
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't know why. I thought it was like

730
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the symbol of like love or something like that.

731
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Nazi stole it and turned it bad. But it's

732
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:35.239
<v Speaker 2>a really old symbol.

733
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thousands and thousands of years.

734
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Old, So I wanted to hit this part again. And

735
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>esoteric philosophy, the Satanic hierarchy, personified by the devil or serpent,

736
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 2>includes intelligences or elohem that guide the monad into physical bodies.

737
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:59.280
<v Speaker 2>This process is essential for the monad's incarnation. Right. Monads

738
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 2>are the pure spirit. Virtual beings face significant limitations and

739
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 2>loss of purity when entering matter. This descent involves self limitation,

740
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 2>physical embodiment, and the experience of separation and sexual impulses

741
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 2>which are foreign and appealing to their innate universal consciousness.

742
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Despite their hesitation, the monads are drawn into matter by

743
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>law of polarity, an interplay of attraction and repulsion, which

744
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 2>is very interesting. This cosmic struggle reflects the conflict between

745
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 2>spirit and matter, which is symbolized by the war in

746
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Heaven Revelations twelve and seven. Right, then, this is my

747
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>last little bit on genesis. Here, the journey through matter

748
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 2>represents a struggle to align the outer self with the

749
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 2>inner spirit. The spiritual battle is depicted in various mythologies

750
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>like Saint George slaying the dragon in the Labors of

751
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Hercules or thor all of these heroic archetypes. They are

752
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 2>showing you the the awakening of the triumph over material reality.

753
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Interesting that for thought a giant serpent and Marduk, that's

754
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 3>that's really interesting in Hercules. Yeah, it's like hydra, it's

755
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 3>like conquering that Kundalini energy. Like that's pretty wild symbolism.

756
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:24.039
<v Speaker 2>There's a famous I'll pull it up real quick.

757
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 3>It could be seen as like like we were talking

758
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 3>about that sexual like Kundalini tantric energy, Like it could

759
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 3>be seen as fighting that to to ensure that your

760
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 3>intentions are pure, you know, because it could be a

761
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:43.039
<v Speaker 3>dark thing like it could be.

762
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.599
<v Speaker 2>It's not saying that sex is evil, not at all,

763
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>which is really you know, good to hear it. It's not

764
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>saying that, it's saying like, you must be in control.

765
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 3>That's it. That's it.

766
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 2>You must be in control of all of your urges. Yes,

767
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 2>but but this one has consequences. This is a I'm

768
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.239
<v Speaker 2>not sure this is from fifteen sixty seven. Oh, it's Paracelsus.

769
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That's even better. He's like one of the most famous

770
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>alchemists of all time. This is a depiction of Paracelsus.

771
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 2>All right. He's holding a sword and it's got this

772
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 2>little stone on top, and written on the stone is Azoth,

773
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>which in alchemical camera I can try, but written I

774
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>mean anyway, Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. Azof in

775
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>alchemical terms is uh. It's like that universal life force.

776
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, they were showing you like I've

777
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>achieved ays off, I've subdued mortal existence. I've awakened it's

778
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>al chemical terms for you know, being an enlightened master.

779
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if this will really appear on

780
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>the camera, but it's yeah, Paracelsus, very interesting guy. He's

781
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 2>like one of the most prominent alchemical philosophers in all

782
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 2>of history. And right here on his sword, is it

783
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 2>visible on the camera at all?

784
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said, Right here on.

785
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>The sword it says Azoth, which is their terminology, which

786
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 2>is interesting because in World of Warcraft the realm is Azarov.

787
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Hmm. But anyway, so Azof is like the primordial infinite consciousness.

788
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the life force. It's like chi or

789
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>prana or the force.

790
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Right. Cool?

791
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Cool, Yeah, like I've mastered this force.

792
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 3>That's really cool by overcoming those primal urges.

793
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, awakening, becoming a spiritual man. Right, how do you

794
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 2>want to do this? Do you still want to jump

795
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:29.599
<v Speaker 2>right into it? Or do you want to take a

796
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>short little break.

797
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.760
<v Speaker 3>We could take a little break if you want. Yeah, yeah,

798
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:35.039
<v Speaker 3>we could do that. I do. I do think it's

799
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 3>really interesting, like thinking about Genesis. Thinking back on Genesis

800
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 3>is like, I didn't remember it being so much about sex,

801
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 3>but it really, it really is the whole thing. I

802
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 3>mean you think about it, it's it's like.

803
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.480
<v Speaker 2>A lot of the Bible is yeah, true.

804
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 3>It's it's like obviously the creation story, but then you

805
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.239
<v Speaker 3>have Adam and Eve. But then you also have Abraham

806
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 3>and Sammy Hagar and and Lot and his daughters, and

807
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 3>like the line of Abraham, it's like all a lot

808
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 3>of it is about sex, and a lot of it

809
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.360
<v Speaker 3>is like the symbolism I It wouldn't have occurred to

810
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 3>me until we broke it down bit by bit and

811
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 3>like look deeper into the esoteric meaning of these things

812
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 3>and cross referenced it across different Eastern Western beliefs. Right,

813
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's.

814
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Eye opening, man.

815
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 3>You know what.

816
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, bro, I know you're busy, but I really think

817
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:30.920
<v Speaker 2>you would like the Secret Teaching of all ages. And

818
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 2>you can borrow my physical copy if you want. It

819
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 2>is it is not what you think. It's it is

820
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 2>what you think, but it's not. It's not some boring,

821
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifteen hundred text, dude. It's it's it's from

822
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.519
<v Speaker 2>the perspective of a guy like me and you, who's

823
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like this shit is so interesting, you know, oh my god,

824
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 2>and they did this and they did this. It's it's

825
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 2>packed full of information once you get past the like

826
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the preface or whatever. Many years ago, when I started

827
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.960
<v Speaker 2>this book, probably seven years ago, I couldn't even get

828
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 2>past the preface, and I was less mature then, and

829
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.079
<v Speaker 2>also I had just moved out of my own for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time, and I had a lot on my plate.

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<v Speaker 2>But this time I picked it up again and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna skip the preface, forget it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to read the material. Started with the introduction,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was hooked, and I was like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire introduction of this book, at least the copy

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<v Speaker 2>I have on Kindle, I'm sure it's the same everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire introduction is like the entire history of like

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek philosophers and how they like changed started first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, and then like evolved philosophy. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>chapter one is like, Okay, now you know about philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>and that history. Now we're gonna talk about the esoteric shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like it's really interesting, like he almost goes chronological

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like that, like with these traditions and

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<v Speaker 2>how old they are and the way he like links

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<v Speaker 2>them and like compares their symbolism. It's it's mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you can bor it if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it sounds fast because I have it on Kindle.

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<v Speaker 3>Sweet yeah, no, it sounds fascinating. I'm totally down to

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<v Speaker 3>read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but and you know, basically, maybe we could take

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<v Speaker 2>a short break and then we could do some revelations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah sounds good. It sounds like a revelation. Hey, guys,

855
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<v Speaker 3>we just came back from our little break and we

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<v Speaker 3>realized that we went two hours talked about Genesis and

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't plan on that. So rather than just going

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<v Speaker 3>straight into revelation, we're gonna We're gonna do it as

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<v Speaker 3>a completely separate episode and give it its own episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, more time to uh look into the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And hopefully it's also all about sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know that it is at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think that Genesis was all about sex, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning today, so maybe it is. Maybe the dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about a little bit more, but it is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about that. But yeah, yeah, no, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm honestly really relieved, because that's why I brought it

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<v Speaker 2>up to you all before. I was like, you know this,

870
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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be a long one.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of knew, Well it was honestly like super fascinating,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad that we went this long about Genesis

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<v Speaker 3>and like really dove deep on this symbolism and shit

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<v Speaker 3>behind it. Yeah, that was sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Revelation will be fun. I think we will give it

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<v Speaker 2>a proper burial, like we will really just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go all the way in.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna go really hard on it because that's like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe my favorite book of the Bible too. It's so sick.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's really cool. And also check out patreon dot

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<v Speaker 3>com slash Bledsoe said, so you'll get a whole nother show,

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<v Speaker 3>full disclosure. You'll get Discord. I was pointing at the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong camera. You'll get Discord, which is our community full

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<v Speaker 3>of a bunch of amazing omies. Shout out to all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Omies, shout out to the OMI Society, to.

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<v Speaker 3>The OMI Society. I love that. And you get the

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<v Speaker 3>episodes early too. And also there's another freaking show coming

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<v Speaker 3>up on Ptreon and it's gonna be out very soon.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what else we haven't acknowledged on the show

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<v Speaker 2>at all? What subscribers. Oh yeah, like YouTube subscribers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you just had a little milestone hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we hit a huge milestone twenty k.

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<v Speaker 2>That's honestly insane. Man, really that is insane because that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a stadium of people. It is when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you put all those people together, it would

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<v Speaker 3>be a massive stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>That's humbling.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so thank you all so much for watching

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<v Speaker 3>and listening and subscribing. We love you all very much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at a loss. I mean, I just I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I just want to revelations. But you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to wait till next time.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have to wait. It's gonna beautiful. So tune in, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It next side for revelations with the Bloods those Zidzu

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<v Speaker 2>cru You ready, We're out of here. Oh God, weird

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<v Speaker 2>things happen in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>Of what so see it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming closer to us. I here stay his straight up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like smiring on the inside of it.

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<v Speaker 3>No one knows. Mad. Wow, it's come.

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<v Speaker 5>When I've ever talked air got solid. Dr ka ain't

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<v Speaker 5>happen

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<v Speaker 3>Nat Nation ch