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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we are get.

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<v Speaker 1>Off our show, idiot, the kids are playing or turn

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<v Speaker 1>a Lot and your countries are screwing it up. Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inn Murals. They're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's the

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<v Speaker 1>kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it started. Welcome in to a

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday edition of Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee. That is me,

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<v Speaker 2>the one and only mister Austin Montgomery alongside today. We're

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<v Speaker 2>taking you up till six o'clock. That means we've got

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<v Speaker 2>you for the next three hours. I hope. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of just said it like it was a

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<v Speaker 2>given that you will be with us for the next

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<v Speaker 2>three hours. I say it like that that maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's a requirement, maybe you feel like it's mandatory.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you really can do whatever the hell you want,

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<v Speaker 2>but why would you not want to hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>us right here for the next three hours. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have some fun and as always, I'll start off by

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<v Speaker 2>letting you know we are fueled by Thornton's. Make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you sign up to become a member of the Refreshing

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<v Speaker 2>Awards program, not only because you'll be able to save

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<v Speaker 2>money at the gas pump. But today for lunch, I

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<v Speaker 2>had the taketos. They are delicious. You can get three

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<v Speaker 2>of them for three bucks. I mean, can beat it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the perfect perfect amount of food. I mean, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is different when it comes to how much

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<v Speaker 2>they like me and everybody's appetites different. But I'm real

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<v Speaker 2>big on like portion control. I mean, I've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain the weight that I want to be at

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<v Speaker 2>for a while and it's not any strict diet and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not any crazy exercise of all. I do still

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<v Speaker 2>work out, as if you guys can't tell. But when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to you know, portion control, like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>watching what I eat that much, I'm just not eating

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of it. And those taketos it was

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect perfect size meal. Are you a big portion guy?

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<v Speaker 2>You more of a I'm gonna eat one big meal

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<v Speaker 2>a day, or I'm eating three small meals. Do you snack?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that everybody's metabolism is different, Austin, you just

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<v Speaker 2>never know.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of I got a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>heftiness on my body. I'm a portion kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of times we go to restaurants and

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<v Speaker 3>they give you, like the small steak on top of

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<v Speaker 3>like the scoop of potatoes, which is usually nice. But

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<v Speaker 3>I like there to be a lot, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>a Panda Express, Like there's this thing, there's two sides,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you want a big spread. I want a big spread. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I love a big spread, and look I do too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you know, I I you'll get there at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. And you're thinner now, I think than you

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<v Speaker 2>were when I met you, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>now that I think of it, but that was many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. I I've had good balance too, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've that's a compliment actually, and I appreciate that I've

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<v Speaker 2>I've found good balance for the last I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>six months or so that I have not had really

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<v Speaker 2>ever as an adult. I when I say balance, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I'm pretty content where I don't feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>miserable because I'm following some crazy strict diet, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also not eating a ton to where I feel like crap.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I get out of the shower, I

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<v Speaker 2>look in the mirror and I'm like, oh, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>you have boobs like I'm. I'm right in the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>which is where I want to be. I'm maintaining the

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<v Speaker 2>weight that I want. But I fluctuated a lot over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, and now I've kind of, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to stay where I want to stay, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm atabolism. I don't know, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if mine's different than anybody else. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things out there that you hear people

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<v Speaker 2>tell you when you're young. And if there is any

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<v Speaker 2>young folks out there, I mean, Austin, you're young. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>you are a little bit, and I know we have

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<v Speaker 2>some younger listeners. It's it's true for just about everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>not the entire population, but most of us. When you

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<v Speaker 2>do get older and you continue to, you know, eat

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<v Speaker 2>the way you've eaten. You've been eaten since you were

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a teenager or your early twenties, it'll catch

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<v Speaker 2>up with you. But there are some people I know

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<v Speaker 2>that for the for their entire life, they've i mean

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen them not shoving their face with food

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<v Speaker 2>and they've weighed the exact same so it's like they

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<v Speaker 2>have a tape warm. Yeah, those are the lucky people.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm not so lucky, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, I'm five eight one's one fifty eight

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<v Speaker 2>as of this morning, which you know is I think

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<v Speaker 2>the bm I would tell you that I'm that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a fat ass, which, by the way, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>we got to recalibrate the BMI, like everybody's a fat

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<v Speaker 2>slob ifo we're using BMI.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like the that's like the BCS of like your body, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like who still uses that archaic.

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<v Speaker 2>A flawed formula.

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<v Speaker 3>But we need to just scrap BMI because they can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that on the little crappy machines at like

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<v Speaker 3>the gym, whenever you go put your arm into the thing,

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<v Speaker 3>it tells you your BMI, Like no, I want the

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<v Speaker 3>human element in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, you know, how do you say that when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to BMI, Like you can just you can just

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<v Speaker 2>get a number, and you know, you can know your weight,

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<v Speaker 2>your age and just put it in a spreadsheet or

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<v Speaker 2>put it in an online database or something and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you r BMI. But like not everybody, like not

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<v Speaker 2>every pound is the same. Some pounds fat, some pounds muscles.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, anyways, everyone's just always told me that

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<v Speaker 3>as a referendum and making me f a lot better,

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<v Speaker 3>Like how you put on weight by your muscle ways.

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<v Speaker 2>You would fa Oh man, isn't that like the ultimate?

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<v Speaker 2>Like those people that say that, those are the people

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<v Speaker 2>that it's just instincts for them to want to make

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<v Speaker 2>you feel better. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 2>those are those are the good people of society that

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<v Speaker 2>it's just oh yeah, they could they could look at

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<v Speaker 2>you and tell that, yeah, they're ain't no muscle here.

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<v Speaker 2>It just you're a lard ass. But man, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell them what, Hey, you've been lifting eh, muscle ways

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<v Speaker 2>more than fat. You've heard that, right? Do we even

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<v Speaker 2>know that's true? And did somebody just say that one

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<v Speaker 2>time and we ran with it to not feel as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as a society.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take you I've ran with it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I've actually looked it up. I appreciate when people

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<v Speaker 3>say that, but or or you're big bone that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it was when you were as a kid, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just big boned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember a baby fat? Like was that really

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<v Speaker 2>a thing? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, oh, I got that a lot during my

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<v Speaker 3>teenage years. But were you a big baby too?

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<v Speaker 2>I still am a big baby? Well, okay, fair enough,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I remember kids in school would talk

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<v Speaker 2>about when they were you know, they were bigger, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>probably because they're getting teased for being big, they would, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's baby fat. And they probably heard that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from their mom or their dad because they didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to make them feel self conscious about being maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit on the hefty side. Which but but like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure that's the thing. Like babies are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, babies can be fat. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>every baby, maybe not every baby, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>babies go through a certain phase from like infant to

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<v Speaker 2>pre toddler where they're they're they're they're fat, they got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of you know, they got a big they

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<v Speaker 2>got big legs, they got a big belly, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. But eventually you kind of like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you're a if you are above eight years

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<v Speaker 2>old and you have maybe some excess fat and you're

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit larger than the average weight, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really sure you can call baby fat. I mean you can,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not really sure that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I could see them saying that through the whole

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<v Speaker 3>thinning out process as you hit the magic puberty age.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's just baby fat, You're gonna thin out.

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<v Speaker 2>I never I never got tall enough to where like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's why that that actually get What I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting to is that I don't have a good

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<v Speaker 2>frame hide weight. Like if i'm if I get to

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<v Speaker 2>be about ten twelve pounds heavier than I am right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it's not muscle, because you know, muscles

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<v Speaker 2>more than fat, then like it's it's showing in the moves,

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<v Speaker 2>It's showing in the gut, you know, it's showing in

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<v Speaker 2>the neck, yeah, the love handles. Yeah, I got. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like if I if I know that I've picked

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<v Speaker 2>up some weight and pick, I don't want to step

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<v Speaker 2>on the scale and I'm like maybe not even trying

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<v Speaker 2>to look in the mirror because because I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to I'm not going to like what I see. The

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<v Speaker 2>area where I notice it first is my neck. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is about it, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it stands out. So anyway, stay healthy, everybody. And this

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<v Speaker 2>was a long winded way of me telling you to

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<v Speaker 2>check out the tiketos at Thornton's because they're delicious. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they may not be the most nutritious, you know, lunch item,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know what, if you only have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of them or three of them, you're probably gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Moderation right, it's right, don't they They have produced there too.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought they got to grab a banana tuo.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they've got it all there, you go, trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got it all. So shout out to our friends

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<v Speaker 2>over there at Thornton's. All right, if you guys want

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<v Speaker 2>to take us with you wherever you go today, listen

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<v Speaker 2>live on the iHeartRadio listened live at seven ninety Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. I feel like there's a lot going on

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to like national stuff. Right. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>the college football playoff rankings coming out tonight. We've actually

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<v Speaker 2>got a handful of things I want to get into

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to college football that really are probably

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<v Speaker 2>not of local interest, but certainly you know more signs

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<v Speaker 2>that this sport, well, really, college sports in general is

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like what it once was. I mean, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>coaches during the season now already moving behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>to try to prepare for which quarterback they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go get that hasn't even hit the portal yet. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got some schools realizing they have paid way too much

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<v Speaker 2>guaranteed money to coaches that are not getting it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Riley, by the way, who I mean this is?

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<v Speaker 2>This is probably not a bad move. It's just something

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<v Speaker 2>you don't typically see USC turning themselves in for violations

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<v Speaker 2>to the NCAA and probably trying to find any little

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<v Speaker 2>so they can maybe fire Lincoln Riley with cause and

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<v Speaker 2>not have to pay him his massive buyout. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, money matters, and they don't have the money

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<v Speaker 2>it done. So again, we'll get the updated rankings tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think Louisville stands to move up, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be great, But I don't want to lie to

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of a scenario to find themselves in the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I just I think with three losses and

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<v Speaker 2>having one notable win, and that win doesn't really I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really even like a Tier one win. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>winning at Clemson is tough to do, but Clemson is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right around barely in the top twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be a little bittersweet to see him

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<v Speaker 2>move up because I think if they beat pitt next week,

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<v Speaker 2>because of what's going on elsewhere, you may find yourself

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<v Speaker 2>sniff in the top fifteen, and you know what, they

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<v Speaker 2>put twelve teams in the playoffs, So you might feel like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>but just the way it, I mean, one, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get their hopes up, because you're you're probably gonna see

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<v Speaker 2>them move up a little bit over these next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as they take care of business, and that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be good to see. But because of how the playoff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, is structured, it's not just the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>are ranked one through twelve, it's you know, there are

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<v Speaker 2>slots within this twelve team bracket that are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>spots for certain teams that accomplish certain things like winning

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<v Speaker 2>your league, the G five team and all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. So again a little bittersweet, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>decided to and I've really talked about this since they

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<v Speaker 2>beat Clemson, and I talked about it right before that game.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, with you, losing the shot at playing

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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC Championship within just you know, the first

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<v Speaker 2>half of the season was pretty rough, especially knowing that,

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<v Speaker 2>like they played good teams and if they just play

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit better in some of those games,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably win. And man, we're talking about a totally

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<v Speaker 2>different situation. So that's still a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>bitter feeling. But you still had something to play for

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<v Speaker 2>finishing strong, and them beating Clemson really put it in

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<v Speaker 2>motion here to where they can finish the season really strong.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna embrace that and I'm gonna try not

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<v Speaker 2>to think back to what could have been, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it would it could have, should have.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet three games that you could have probably tightened

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<v Speaker 2>up just a little bit and you would have avoided

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<v Speaker 2>a loss, but you can't go back and change it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where it really sounds like I'm drinking

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<v Speaker 2>the bram kool aid and I'm really being a homer.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just gonna tell you what I think. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many other programs or teams would have

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<v Speaker 2>been able to respond the way Louisville did when they

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<v Speaker 2>got down twenty one against Boston College. That's to me

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<v Speaker 2>another sign that we have a pretty good ball coach

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<v Speaker 2>leading the program. Now again, they could crumble and lose

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<v Speaker 2>by lose is twenty point favorites. It's like they are

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<v Speaker 2>against Stanford on Saturday. But I don't believe that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And you went out and then you go in a

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<v Speaker 2>bowl game. That's a ten win season. And I know,

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<v Speaker 2>with the portal and with nil, you're seeing some teams

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<v Speaker 2>really just turn into something totally different in one year's time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's awesome, But to just I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we're ever going to be at a point as a

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville football fan base to where you can look at

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<v Speaker 2>a ten win season and not feel like you had

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<v Speaker 2>a really good year. I don't want to say special.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say historic, because you did it

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<v Speaker 2>last year, but this will be if they went out,

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<v Speaker 2>this will be the second time in program history that

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has had two con or back to back ten

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<v Speaker 2>win seasons. I mean, so let's hope that happens, all right. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a big college basketball event tonight, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do love this event just because you can tell. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's four of the bigger programs in college basketball getting us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, essentially started. I think it would have been

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<v Speaker 2>last week had it not been for the election, So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's bit later than it typically is. But

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<v Speaker 2>either way, you know, the Champions Classic is really the

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<v Speaker 2>national reminder that college basketball season is here, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I mean, this event gets so much viewership for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple reasons, mostly because you know, when these two teams,

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<v Speaker 2>when these four programs play college basketball on a national

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<v Speaker 2>network anytime in the year, you're gonna get some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good numbers. Now, nothing compared to what you see like

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL or big time college football games. But

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<v Speaker 2>because they give you the updated college football playoff rankings

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<v Speaker 2>between the games, there's gonna be a lot of eyeballs

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<v Speaker 2>on these games just for that, and I would hope

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<v Speaker 2>that people would stick around and watch, just because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I love college basketball and I want as many people

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<v Speaker 2>to consume the product as possible. But I have no

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<v Speaker 2>clue what's going to happen in these games tonight. Not

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<v Speaker 2>a clue. And that's really kind of become an every

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<v Speaker 2>year thing because we know that all these teams are

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<v Speaker 2>featuring many new players. Kentucky's a brand new team. Michigan State,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta admit I don't know a whole lot about

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<v Speaker 2>their their roster this year. Obviously Duke, they've got Cooper Flag,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who is as hyped as anybody I can

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<v Speaker 2>think of entering college basketball in a long, long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Kansas, they've already they've already picked up a

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<v Speaker 2>big time when early on this season knocking off North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina so a big event. But I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>all the different ways I could wager on this, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're all just guessing, because it's if you're putting something

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<v Speaker 2>together tonight to bet on these games. And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a Kentucky fan, I'm sure you're gonna bet on your

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<v Speaker 2>team because you want to not only get that win

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<v Speaker 2>as a fan with that emotional high, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>you win some money that makes it even better, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not about who you think is gonna be better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about who you think has more talent. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really it's just about being able to guess at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>this early in the year, who's more capable of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>better than the other team. And you know typically that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's always how you would put together any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>decision when you're betting on something. Who do I think

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<v Speaker 2>will play better and win? Will they win by this? Much?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's how it always works. But my point is,

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<v Speaker 2>like tonight I might, like I might, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do it because I would, I would just block out,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think Kentucky plus six and a half is

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<v Speaker 2>the play. I'm not gonna bet it, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't work out that way. I hope they get killed.

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<v Speaker 2>Also wouldn't be shocked if they win, to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, but I know that in February. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>good chance that Duke will be much more polished because

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<v Speaker 2>their true freshmen will have a lot more reps, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have elite level talent and a lot of NBA

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<v Speaker 2>guys on their roster. I'm not sure if there's anybody

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<v Speaker 2>on the Kentucky roster that's going to have a link

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA career. That's not an insult. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 2>used to having those NBA guys, but obviously things are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be done a little bit differently with Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I'm gonna watch it. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>for it, but I want to bet on it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have I mean, I don't have a clue what

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<v Speaker 2>to do here. Wouldn't you say, though, Kentucky plus six

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<v Speaker 2>and a half? Like, doesn't that you know? I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even sure if you've watched much Kentucky this year, Austin,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I don't know why you would, but

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<v Speaker 2>this to me screams like the veterans will be more

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<v Speaker 2>ready than the young guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, I love that number six and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about it before the show. I can,

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<v Speaker 3>I can, I can hammer that. You know, this seems

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<v Speaker 3>like everyone's kind of focused on the whole Cooper flag thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and you've already had some passive s talk coming from

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<v Speaker 3>that Kirk Chris and I watched him at Arizona too,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've seen a lot of him. I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>really very unbrand for him, right, yeah, absolutely, the from

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<v Speaker 3>one Wildcat to another. But you know, he's, Uh, this

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<v Speaker 3>seems like I wouldn't even say, like backed into a

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<v Speaker 3>corner type of Pope team because I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people anticipating that there's gonna be really good,

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<v Speaker 3>probably exceed expectations for a first year coach. But I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they could take this as a scenario where

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<v Speaker 3>kind of no one believes in us. We're going up

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<v Speaker 3>against this and this this talent that's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>the most talked about since like Zion Williams sitting there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I still don't even when it comes to that,

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<v Speaker 3>I still don't think anythings were going to talk the

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<v Speaker 3>Zion madness. So like, I really don't believe in that

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper flag kid all that much just yet, but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to tonight, I think he's gonna be I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what he's gonna do tonight, I think he's I

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<v Speaker 2>mean legit, it comes down to what you view as like, okay, next,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I could watch Zion and know that's not normal

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<v Speaker 2>at any at any point, you know, for a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that big, with that frame to be able to jump

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<v Speaker 2>off the ground that high and have feet that quick.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean he was, he was a special talent

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<v Speaker 2>and he's one of Zion will always be one of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys. To me that to say that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a unicorn doesn't mean he's the best player ever,

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<v Speaker 2>but like there's nothing you would really compare him to.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I don't know if Cooper Flag is that,

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<v Speaker 2>but when he was playing against and with Team USA

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<v Speaker 2>this summer and holding his own and sometimes getting the

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<v Speaker 2>best of guys that are stars in the NBA, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that that's not normal. So and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's got this killer's instinct that people talk about. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know what what what Kirk Chris has said

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<v Speaker 2>really wasn't like over the top. But you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>been a smart ass's what he's doing. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to two ways this could go. That

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<v Speaker 2>could maybe light a fire under a guy who's got

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but hype, and I've not heard a single person

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<v Speaker 2>talk about him being overrated or being not as good

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<v Speaker 2>as advertised or anything like that. And I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>sure that's really what Kurk Chrisa meant. But if if

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flagg was looking to find an edge, looking to

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<v Speaker 2>find some motivation, he could certainly use that. He might

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<v Speaker 2>have to, you know, embellish it a little bit or

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<v Speaker 2>manufacture something added on to it. But if you're but

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Pope in Kentucky, you can look at this as, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this young, and it's so crazy because it's the exact

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<v Speaker 2>opposite of what they're used to. Kentucky's teams have always

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<v Speaker 2>been young. They are the teams that go into this knowing, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll probably lose, but be better at the end. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely a role reversal because Kentucky's team, for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, is a bunch of a bunch of grown

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<v Speaker 2>ass men. So we'll see, we'll see how it plays

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<v Speaker 2>out tonight. I know I'm looking forward to watching both games,

422
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<v Speaker 2>and really, top to bottom, we got a lot of

423
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<v Speaker 2>college hoops tonight, which I'm sure some of you haven't

424
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<v Speaker 2>really shifted totally to college basketball, just yet. But to me,

425
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<v Speaker 2>I'm always in college basketball mode. But that didn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>we won't talk some football today. Because again, what the

427
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<v Speaker 2>committee decides to do tonight after five top twenty teams

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<v Speaker 2>lost over the weekend, I don't have a real I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see, right, I'm predicting the committee is always tough

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<v Speaker 2>after just one week. Tonight's actually, you know, the second week,

431
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<v Speaker 2>especially after you get some losses like we had five

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty teams losing, We're going to really get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to see how they you know, how they really

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<v Speaker 2>value conferences. How much are they going to really put

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<v Speaker 2>into Okay, yes you lost and that's not a good result,

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<v Speaker 2>but how much does that really move you? How much

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<v Speaker 2>does that change your resume? Because every year, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it'll ever be something that people just

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<v Speaker 2>get used to and they're acclimated with. But when when

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<v Speaker 2>the Committee updates each week, it's not what you lost,

441
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<v Speaker 2>so therefore you're going to automatically move down. You won,

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore your automatic gonna move up if somebody lost in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you. It doesn't work that way because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a reset each week about your overall resume. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there won't be as much shake up as people are

446
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<v Speaker 2>expecting because of those losses, and it'll it should be,

447
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<v Speaker 2>it should be your annual reminder that a loss doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily just automatically mean you fall, because you may have

449
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<v Speaker 2>some breathing room, right, You may be a team that

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<v Speaker 2>had a loss to burn because you were your resume

451
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<v Speaker 2>was that far ahead and that far ahead of everybody else's.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll we'll certainly see tonight. We have one guests

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<v Speaker 2>going to join us, Cel Brown. He is actually I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's there yet. He's probably already there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's punctual. He's in Atlanta for the Champions Classic tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get his thoughts at four point thirty on what

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<v Speaker 2>happened with Louisville against Tennessee over the weekend. Obviously not

458
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<v Speaker 2>a not a good result by any means, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>also get his thoughts on tonight's matchups there with Kansas

460
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<v Speaker 2>and Michigan State, Kentucky and Duke So again, he'll join

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<v Speaker 2>us at four thirty. You guys can jump in anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>at times that when Kenny Payne was here, there would

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<v Speaker 2>be something he says, there would be something done, something

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<v Speaker 2>not done that I for a moment thought, Okay, wait

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<v Speaker 2>a second, this is some kind of a joke, Like

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't real. He can't be serious, is he is

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<v Speaker 2>he wanting to make people think that he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>like show that he doesn't like he doesn't want the

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<v Speaker 2>job like that, like he I mean, you guys know

475
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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talk about. If you're a little basketball fan,

476
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<v Speaker 2>there were many many things that you just thought to yourself, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what what in no way, Well, he talked to the

478
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<v Speaker 2>media today because Cal, you know, is being cal and

479
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<v Speaker 2>not not doing media obligations because you know, it's what

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<v Speaker 2>he does. And Kenny Payne said something that like took

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<v Speaker 2>me back, and I wasn't sad because you know, he's

482
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<v Speaker 2>not here anymore and that's good. But he's still doing

483
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<v Speaker 2>the same stuff that he did while he was here,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just fascinates me, it really does. We'll tell

485
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<v Speaker 2>you what he had to say about that Baylor loss

486
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<v Speaker 2>that Arkansas suffered over the week, and we'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>that next. Don't go anywhere, keep it locked right here.

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<v Speaker 4>As expected, Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott is scheduled to undergo

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<v Speaker 4>for the job. The Bear's offense had gone twenty three

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<v Speaker 4>ESPN reports that New Orleans Pelicans guard Jose Alvarado is

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so earlier today, Kenny Paine was I suppose

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<v Speaker 2>doing on Caliperry's job for him, which was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the media. And Baylor, of course, knocked off

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas on Saturday. I'm not sure how many Louisville fans

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<v Speaker 2>watched or paid attention to that, but I know Kentucky

518
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<v Speaker 2>fans were watching. They're lying if they say that they weren't,

519
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<v Speaker 2>and I get it, that's not criticism. I would be

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<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing. And if I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in your shoes, which I'm not, I mean, it would

522
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<v Speaker 2>be clear, like you would want cawtaleus every game. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>be real, it was a breakup. And even if it

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<v Speaker 2>is a situation that both sides wanted, in this stage

525
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<v Speaker 2>of a breakup, it's still fresh enough and you still,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as a Kentucky fan, you still at this

527
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<v Speaker 2>point are all in on Mark Pope and you may

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<v Speaker 2>always be all in. Maybe he wins big tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>if so, Kentucky fans are gonna be on one. As

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<v Speaker 2>they say, they're gonna be obnoxious at a level that

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<v Speaker 2>really makes you want to throw up. And again, if

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<v Speaker 2>I was them, I'd probably do the same thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>with like with cal, you want, this is what you want.

534
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<v Speaker 2>You may not know you want it, but you want it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the result that if it played out and you

536
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<v Speaker 2>didn't know you wanted it, you would think, oh, why

537
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<v Speaker 2>does this feel so good? This feels this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I mean is you want him to struggle

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<v Speaker 2>and then wish he was still your coach, but you've

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<v Speaker 2>already moved on. You got a new man and he's

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Pope, and I don't know if he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>win the night, and I don't know if long term

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be the guy I have no reason

544
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<v Speaker 2>to think that he can't be. But obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>only time will tell. I did hear Matt and the

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<v Speaker 2>Crew this morning on KSR mentioning how it really is

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<v Speaker 2>tough to see how many coaches have followed legends and

548
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<v Speaker 2>then and then you know, failed or not come close,

549
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<v Speaker 2>maybe failing as a stretch for some of them. But

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<v Speaker 2>my reaction was, yeah, you know what, I guess that

551
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<v Speaker 2>is true. A lot of the coaches that have taken

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<v Speaker 2>over for a really good coach that moved on for

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<v Speaker 2>a new gig or retired, they've had a tough time

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<v Speaker 2>filling those humongous shoes. But is Cal a legend? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Cal like? I mean, he had a good run there,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but like he's got big shoes to fill.

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<v Speaker 2>But not just because Cal. He's got big shoes to

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<v Speaker 2>feel because he's the coach of Kentucky and that's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big job that has insanely high standards. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even trying to take a dig at Cal. I'm just saying, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't I don't really look at Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Doherty replacing Dean Smith, like Mark Pope replacing John Calip Perry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just me though like Tubby Smith replaced Rick won

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<v Speaker 2>a title in his first year, right, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's replacing a legend and carrying over what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now someone will say that that title had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to do with more to do with Rick than Tubby,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, probably a little bit of both,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. But anyways, nonetheless, Cal is

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<v Speaker 2>still doing the same things he was doing here in

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<v Speaker 2>Lexington that and I say here, I'm not living Lexton

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<v Speaker 2>as you know what I mean. When he was the

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<v Speaker 2>coach of Kentucky and it was really really annoying for

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans because they felt like, hey, come on, man, like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you not doing your job? Why are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking down to us? Why are you blaming losses on

577
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<v Speaker 2>the fact that your team has in practice? Well, why

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<v Speaker 2>haven't they practiced? Like it's just you know, the Cal

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<v Speaker 2>stick had run really really stale, especially because he had

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<v Speaker 2>not won in the tournament in a while and had

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<v Speaker 2>losses to Saint Peter's and whoever else Saint Peter's in Oakland.

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<v Speaker 2>So him sending Kenny Paine out after a loss to

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<v Speaker 2>Baylor on Saturday to do the weekly media check in

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<v Speaker 2>or at least the media check in the media press

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<v Speaker 2>conference before your next game is such a cow move,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's another sign that he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>re energized. He's not going to be scorned to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where he puts more into this and he does

589
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<v Speaker 2>reinvent himself as a coach so he can have success

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<v Speaker 2>and do it all out of spite because he wants

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans just like I mentioned, you all want him

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<v Speaker 2>to wish he was still here, and you know you

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<v Speaker 2>all are content and happy with your new man, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants you all to miss him, and so far

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<v Speaker 2>early on in the season. I mean, Kentucky will find

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<v Speaker 2>out tonight this is their first actual game, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and gets somebody that matters. But kl Lou's into Baylor

598
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<v Speaker 2>right after Baylor got beat by fifty points in early

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<v Speaker 2>to Gonzaga that that was a dub a win for

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky in this in this breakup battle that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to play out over these next few months. So Kenny Payne,

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<v Speaker 2>guys remember him, right, he's now doing the meeting. He

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<v Speaker 2>did the press conference today for John Caliperry, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe for a second that this was like a

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<v Speaker 2>poor attempt at humor. I just think this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is I don't know, I'm I don't want to insult him,

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<v Speaker 2>but like if I did, I don't think anybody would

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<v Speaker 2>really care. But Kenny Payne says Arkansas was caught off

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<v Speaker 2>guard and tentative against Baylor in the first half these

610
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<v Speaker 2>Baylor played zone, and it took you right back to

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<v Speaker 2>that loss a year ago to Indiana, where Kenny Payne

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<v Speaker 2>said one of the many things he said throughout his

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<v Speaker 2>two years here where you think, what did he really

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<v Speaker 2>say that? He said Mike Woodson tricked him when he

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<v Speaker 2>threw his zone out there. And what that is is

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<v Speaker 2>a coach having no awareness that what he's doing is

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<v Speaker 2>telling you that the staff, not the players, not even

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not saying, well, we really thought we could

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<v Speaker 2>guard this all American, but man, he was a lot

620
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<v Speaker 2>better than we anticipated. He's a really good player. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's still something you don't want to have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>But by saying you were tricked by something that an

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<v Speaker 2>opponent did, or that you were caught off guard by

624
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 2>something they were doing, that's quite literally a coach only

625
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a coaching thing here, letting everybody know that they weren't ready,

626
00:29:55.440 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they weren't prepared, and I now hear that. I hope

627
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Kenny does all the pressers this year. It's not going

628
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 2>to give me PTSD anymore. It's gonna put me in

629
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>a happy place to know that like that, that's not

630
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>going on here anymore. I think I needed that to become, like,

631
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, a big talking point among Louisville fans on

632
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Twitter today because usually when I see those kind of things,

633
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 2>those flat it gives me PTSD. But not anymore. I'm

634
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>free of that now.

635
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you bring up Kenny Payne. I got to

636
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>bring up one of my favorite soundbites from him, ever,

637
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 3>hold one.

638
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Depressed.

639
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>What was the context there?

640
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 3>I think it was talking about like he's one of

641
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 3>those try to get everybody routed up moments, because if

642
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 3>you're looking at I think it was like if you're

643
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 3>looking at your teammates and they're looking at you, and

644
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 3>they're thinking.

645
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>He's say depressed or oppressed, I'm depressed. I'm depressed. My guess,

646
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 2>My guess would be that it was said because you know,

647
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 2>he he smiled and oftentimes didn't look as if he

648
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>cared that they want if they want or lost a game.

649
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Like the things he said, the way he carried himself,

650
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 2>his body language, his facial expressions, it was all the

651
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 2>same if they won one of the twelve games he

652
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 2>won in his time here, or if they lost by

653
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>fifty like, it was always the same, which made you

654
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>think that he didn't care if they wanted He just thought, well, hey,

655
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 2>no matter what happens, they should just be thankful that

656
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm here, because you know, they needed me and I'm

657
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 2>here and this was just gonna happen regardless of who

658
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 2>the coach was, because things were broken and the culture

659
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, all that nonsense he's spewed for two

660
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.759
<v Speaker 2>straight years. So my guess is that maybe he was

661
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 2>trying to defend himself and say that he is upset

662
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 2>that they're losing. But you know, he didn't really convince me,

663
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure he ever wanted to win here.

664
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll never understand how that went the way it did.

665
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 2>But it's over, and honestly, now that I'm giving it

666
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:46.160
<v Speaker 2>some thought, I think maybe I've moved on from you know,

667
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>being not bit. I mean, I'm happy it's over, and

668
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I've been well aware that Louisville has a real ball

669
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.519
<v Speaker 2>coach leading the program, now that is going to you know,

670
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 2>take accountability all that kind of stuff. But I think

671
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>hearing Pat Kelsey handle loss and just know that, hey, well,

672
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>only time will tell if in fact they're gonna really

673
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 2>they're going to really grow from that twenty two point

674
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 2>loss to Tennessee. Like we'll see if in fact they

675
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>make improvements. But I'm not worried about any accountability, right

676
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Like Pat Kelsey, he knows it's his He's never gonna

677
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>blame anybody but himself, and that's what you should do.

678
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Like Louisville right now, in both basketball and football, has

679
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>head coaches that I don't think you'll ever hear them

680
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>blame a player, even if we know that sometimes like yeah,

681
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>it was more about players than it was about coaches,

682
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>just because they're well aware that there's no like, you

683
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 2>stand nothing to gain at any point as a head

684
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:47.279
<v Speaker 2>coach by blaming anything on your players, even if it

685
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 2>is their fault, Like it's just gonna make you sound

686
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 2>like you're not willing to take accountability. So you know,

687
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean these coaches are going to be here

688
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>forever and be phenomenal because you know, you got to

689
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 2>win but it is nice to see that whenever you

690
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 2>do take a loss, the accountability always seems to fall

691
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>on I mean, look, if Jeck Brom threw his defensive

692
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>coordinator under the bus directly, I don't think Louisville fans

693
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.799
<v Speaker 2>would have done anything but celebrate. But like he just knows,

694
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>there's no benefit in me doing that. I'm gonna say

695
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>it starts with us. Now, we all know who he

696
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 2>was talking about when he was pointing out how the

697
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.039
<v Speaker 2>defense needed to be more simplified and it was too

698
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>complex and all that. But yeah, Kenny Payne still in

699
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>his own world, I think, and you know, I'm happy

700
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>that he's no longer he's no longer here.

701
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:33.720
<v Speaker 3>As I as I look up that video and it's

702
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it just brings back PTSD flashbacks. It's just

703
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Kenny Payne wearing the Louisville attire and he's got the

704
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 3>Louisville backdrop. It's a terrifying image that I don't like

705
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 3>to think of those times. Like I use when I

706
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>grew up, there is this video store I always went

707
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 3>to that had a Freddy Krueger cut out, and I

708
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:53.079
<v Speaker 3>was terrified of it from there on out. That's been

709
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 3>and drenched in my brain ever since that, along with

710
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Linda Blair at The Exorcist. You know, he's got the

711
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 3>face in the three sixty that's terrifying. Up there with

712
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 3>the top three most terrifying images I hate to see

713
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 3>is Kenny Paine and as a Louisville coach right before

714
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 3>a press.

715
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Conference, I'm, I'm sure you're not alone. And you know

716
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I love doing the postgame shows for basketball and football

717
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>for obvious reasons, but because it's so raw and real

718
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and right after the game, like I'm I'm not even

719
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 2>really sure I've put together how I feel about a

720
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 2>loss or a win, because lately some of these postgame shows.

721
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I knew Louisville hadn't won. I Mean, the

722
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 2>game was pretty much over pretty early on against Tennessee,

723
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>but as I'm kind of talking through it and listening

724
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to callers and just kind of, you know, letting it

725
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 2>settle in that they did come out on their first

726
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 2>big test and lose in a big way. Like I

727
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 2>was certainly disappointed, but it didn't take long at all

728
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 2>for me to get re energized after hearing Pat Kelsey.

729
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Not because I'm telling you, there's no doubt in my

730
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>mind that they they win the next time. They're in

731
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>a situation like that. None of us really know, but

732
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm numb to losing. We've done that for two straight

733
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>years against bum teams. So a twenty two point loss

734
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to Tennessee is certainly not the results you'd ever want.

735
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to celebrate it, but like, I'm still

736
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>numb to losing. It's something we got too used to

737
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>around here. Institutional off. Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it

738
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>now real quick, before we get to our next break.

739
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 2>I will say this, I think the feeling that a

740
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of Louisville fans had late last week leading into

741
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Saturday's game against Tennessee, I think that's going on right

742
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>now with Kentucky. And again I hope they lose by

743
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 2>fifty tonight. That'd be great. I might do my own

744
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>post game show if that happens. But you know, like

745
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I like it is. It's a beautiful thing to see,

746
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Like they are not coming off of the run that

747
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Louisville had with the previous regime, but many they were

748
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 2>in a tough spot because Cal would you know, do

749
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Cal things, and he'd shown them at one point in

750
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>his tenure there that he could win at a high

751
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>level and get to a Final four. But I think

752
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 2>you were finding yourself as a Kentucky fan trying to

753
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:59.719
<v Speaker 2>convince yourself that it'll eventually get back to that where

754
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>he was in his first five years there. But you

755
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 2>deep down knew it that it wasn't gonna happen. And

756
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 2>you know last year he really wasted a special team,

757
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 2>a special roster with three elite guards, and like, that's

758
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 2>got a sting. But now it's over and you got

759
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 2>a new guy leading the program. He is checking all

760
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the boxes that Cal would have never checked. Now again,

761
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't win, none of that matters. But he's

762
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>hitting in your fields, meaning Mark Pope, because he's all

763
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky first, program first, not anything about him. And with Cal,

764
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>it was essentially the Caliperi program, not the Kentucky program.

765
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.280
<v Speaker 2>So they're looking at their team playing really well right now,

766
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>dominant in their first two games. Now they've got a

767
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>big test against Duke, and I can sense that they've

768
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>got some confidence, and I don't blame him. I would

769
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.599
<v Speaker 2>probably feel the same way, and I've said it earlier.

770
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be shocked if they win the night, so

771
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Louisville of course got humbled pretty quickly. I don't know

772
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>if that's going to happen with Kentucky, but you know,

773
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>rarely will you find us, and I mean Louisville and

774
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky fans in this spot, meaning where both are start

775
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 2>over for different reasons of course, and who knows, maybe

776
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the results are completely different for each of these coaches.

777
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>We'll have to wait and see. But this rivalry is

778
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 2>pretty big deal and for both fan bases at the

779
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 2>same time to kind of be going through, you know,

780
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the newness, the honeymoon, you know, it's it's something we

781
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 2>may I may never experience this again as somebody in

782
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.519
<v Speaker 2>this position, right, because rarely do you get new coaches

783
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 2>around here, and for both of them that go through

784
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it at the same time, it's it's exciting. But again,

785
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I hope Kentucky loses about fifty tonight. Doubt it happens,

786
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 2>but we'll see quick break keep a locked right here

787
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety
