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Speaker 2: Have you with you?
Speaker 3: Katla Fox eleven et cetera ran for Senate that little
Speaker 3: thing you're pregnant? What were you thinking?
Speaker 1: I don't know, birthd like two weeks after the election.
Speaker 1: Now she timed it well, well if.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine did you ever think about going in
Speaker 3: a little early and inducing just for the you think
Speaker 3: you would have gotten a.
Speaker 2: Bump, the dramatic effect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, well I watching a legend on debate stage
Speaker 1: and my water would break.
Speaker 3: That would have been and you know, that's a movie.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe next time.
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Speaker 4: I am so excited you have Christina on because when
Speaker 4: you guys were talking about Adam Shift and the baseball
Speaker 4: legend debate, she should have been on that stage.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 4: She was the voice of us younger folks and as
Speaker 4: normal folks.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love her.
Speaker 1: Thanks for saying that. You know, I agree, that's a
Speaker 1: whole other story. That's a whole other radio show.
Speaker 3: Did you watch did you watch this recent debate to Yeah,
Speaker 3: you just get frustrated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's what I thought of all along.
Speaker 3: There is.
Speaker 1: There are a few reasons I decided to throw my
Speaker 1: hat in the ring. And even though it was you know,
Speaker 1: I was the last one to join the race, I
Speaker 1: knew it was a heavy lift, and I know he
Speaker 1: was going against one of the most entrenched political people
Speaker 1: in the country, Adam Schiff, And.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought, you're talking about Katie Porter, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the reason I even wanted to
Speaker 1: try or go for it is because I was interviewing
Speaker 1: him and I just felt like the answer I was
Speaker 1: getting was so disingenuous, and so that was one of
Speaker 1: three reasons I decided to run.
Speaker 2: But watch this debate.
Speaker 1: You know, ten million dollars was spent on ads to
Speaker 1: elevate Steve Garvey so that he would be in the
Speaker 1: final two. Because Adam Schiff knew that if Steve Garvey
Speaker 1: was in the final two, he would have mathematically zero
Speaker 1: shot of winning in this state as a Republican. Now,
Speaker 1: I do think people are leaning more and more red.
Speaker 1: We're seeing more people register as Republican. There's been a
Speaker 1: shift towards the right as we've had all these issues
Speaker 1: we've been dealing with as a state, rent immigration and crime. However,
Speaker 1: the numbers just aren't there still, And I don't think
Speaker 1: Garvey has the chop like he doesn't really when you
Speaker 1: see him debate, you're not particularly inspired.
Speaker 3: I wasn't inspired by him. I felt like that his
Speaker 3: heart's in the right place. But we need more than
Speaker 3: that for somebody to be a candidate, especially to beat somebody,
Speaker 3: like you said, politically entrenched the way Adam Schiff is
Speaker 3: with the support of the National Party, the way he has, right,
Speaker 3: you gotta have somebody who's going to be sharp as attacked,
Speaker 3: sharper than attacked.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately he doesn't know much policy.
Speaker 1: I know in a previous debate they said, can you
Speaker 1: name one regulation you would change if you were elected
Speaker 1: to the US Senate And he couldn't name it. And
Speaker 1: you know, I was screaming at the television sequa, it's sequa,
Speaker 1: you know, just you know it's a he doesn't really know.
Speaker 3: So you've turned it into my grandmother and started yelling
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at in my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I must say he was very spicy in
Speaker 1: this recent debate. He had one quote where Schiff was
Speaker 1: talking about Diane Feinstein and Garvey goes, well, you're no
Speaker 1: Dianne Feinstein.
Speaker 3: So he said yes. Now, that moment actually was kind
Speaker 3: of funny because I felt like it was a to
Speaker 3: use a baseball analogy, it was a foul ball, like
Speaker 3: Adam Schiff tied that thing up, and Steve Garvey knew
Speaker 3: that that like he could see it coming right, but
Speaker 3: he couldn't quite put the ball in play. And then
Speaker 3: he said, you're no Dianne Feinstein. And then Adam Schiff
Speaker 3: was like, oh, he left it on the field. Maybe
Speaker 3: I can pick it up. And he said, well, I
Speaker 3: knew Diane Feinstein. I was friends with Diane Feinstein. But
Speaker 3: then he couldn't land the punchline either, because it didn't
Speaker 3: work that way.
Speaker 1: He said something like, you know, I remember when California
Speaker 1: used to be the heartbeat of America and now it's
Speaker 1: just a murmur. And his delivery was actually kind of funny, but.
Speaker 3: He practiced that. He did quite a bit.
Speaker 5: Hey guys, good morning. I just started listening a little
Speaker 5: late this morning, so I'm taking a shot in the
Speaker 5: dark here, but I want but the say congratulations on
Speaker 5: I shouldn't get in Christina's Pascucci to fill in with
Speaker 5: U with Gary today for Shannon. I love Shannon, but
Speaker 5: a big fan of Scooch. Well done, and I look
Speaker 5: forward to hearing the rest of the show to hear
Speaker 5: the thanks guys.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: That is so nice. We got two nice calls. Thanks
Speaker 1: for not playing the wines. I said, why what is
Speaker 1: it going on?
Speaker 3: Well, back to Hurricane Milton and what's left of the
Speaker 3: clean up there in Hurricane in Florida. I should say,
Speaker 3: this storm itself is now out in the Atlantic making
Speaker 3: its way farther away from us, thankfully, but Saint Petersburg
Speaker 3: was one of those areas that was inundated overnight and
Speaker 3: joining us now to talk about it. Family friends, Shelley
Speaker 3: and George Rosenberger, my.
Speaker 2: Best friend's in laws who are in Saint Pete. So
Speaker 2: good to have you guys on the show with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you in the midst of you know, I know
Speaker 1: you've been kind of monitoring the damage, and Shelley, when
Speaker 1: we spoke last night and this morning, you said, You've
Speaker 1: been in Florida your whole life, and you've never seen
Speaker 1: a storm this bad.
Speaker 6: No, never, never. This is the first time that I've
Speaker 6: ever been scared during a storm. True, I mean really
Speaker 6: like really scared, really nervous. Every other time it's like, Okay,
Speaker 6: well it's going to come and it'll go and nothing's
Speaker 6: going to happen. But yeah, we were very anxious.
Speaker 7: We were in the cone on the north side of
Speaker 7: the Eye and it was just relentless seven plus mile
Speaker 7: an hour wind and gusts and constant rain for six
Speaker 7: or seven hours. The backyard was flooded, but no damage
Speaker 7: to the house for fortunately.
Speaker 6: George had to empty the pool about seven or eight
Speaker 6: times in the pouring young rain.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7: Not a wise move. And I won't do it that again.
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta do it, you gotta do And you know,
Speaker 1: for us southern California folk, who I consider sixty degrees
Speaker 1: a weather event, I think it's important for people to know,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're on that right front, it's particularly dangerous.
Speaker 1: You have the risk of not only the winds, the
Speaker 1: surge we've been talking about, the flooding, but tornadoes. I
Speaker 1: had never realized how big of a part of a
Speaker 1: storm a hurricane tornadoes are. Was this more active than
Speaker 1: what you had seen in the past in terms of
Speaker 1: the tornadic activity.
Speaker 7: Uh, we were fortunate here Toanellas County that I don't
Speaker 7: recall seeing one tornado warning in Tanellas County, which is
Speaker 7: Saint Pete Clearwater all the way up to tarp and Springs.
Speaker 7: The tornado activity seemed to be east of us, in
Speaker 7: areas like Hillsboro and Polk County, and there were many, yeah,
Speaker 7: many of them serious uh tornadoes, but I don't know
Speaker 7: what the damage was.
Speaker 1: More than one hundred tornado warnings and I think twenty
Speaker 1: twenty at least confirmed sightings of tornadoes, and unfortunately a
Speaker 1: few people died as a result.
Speaker 3: What is what is the city or the county told
Speaker 3: you in terms of if you need to reach out
Speaker 3: for help, how, how how available is it to you?
Speaker 7: As far as we know, there was non stop uh
Speaker 7: from that came over the local news news stations.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: The weathermen here were great.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: The information and the ticker that at the bottom of
Speaker 7: the screen always told you where the shelters were, which
Speaker 7: ones were open, when to leave, and UH just so
Speaker 7: much information was coming at us that it was it
Speaker 7: was really quite calming actually in the face of all
Speaker 7: of this.
Speaker 6: Uh. And government in DeSantis he was amazing. I mean
Speaker 6: he pre planned and preset all these emergency emergency vehicles
Speaker 6: and he was he was amazing. He was great.
Speaker 7: And they they were well prepared. And as you as
Speaker 7: you know that we knew the hurricane was headed somewhere
Speaker 7: near us for for days and days, and the sheriff
Speaker 7: here in Panellas County, Bob well Thierry, Uh, he took
Speaker 7: charge for the county and uh, I mean everything went
Speaker 7: as smoothly as it could. The first responders stayed out
Speaker 7: on the street until the wind gusts got to where
Speaker 7: it was dangerous and they were ordered to themselves seek shelter. Uh.
Speaker 7: It really Yeah, a lot of time to plan and
Speaker 7: really great response. The law enforcement and fire department rescue
Speaker 7: people here in this county are wonderful.
Speaker 2: That's incredible to hear when government works as intended.
Speaker 7: You know, yeah, yeah, sure here, no problem. And you know,
Speaker 7: we had so much devastation from Helene just just a
Speaker 7: short while ago, uh, that people weren't allowed back on
Speaker 7: the beach for days and restaurants and famous landmarks were crushed,
Speaker 7: and I mean we haven't even recovered from that. Uh,
Speaker 7: and then this happens. But they allowed the people back
Speaker 7: on the beaches actually today, as early as this morning,
Speaker 7: so there was no delay for those people to go
Speaker 7: back on the beach and get back busy again to
Speaker 7: their homes.
Speaker 3: That's good, all right, Well, Shelley, George, we wish you
Speaker 3: the best of luck. And it sounds like once you
Speaker 3: get that pool cleaned out, George, then you can you
Speaker 3: can just sit back and relax. Yeah, get a cocktail time.
Speaker 7: I will tell you we have a wonderful lunai and
Speaker 7: pool situation. And believe me, listeners, this is really paradise here.
Speaker 6: Except for hur.
Speaker 7: Little details, and you know, the Luni is still standing.
Speaker 6: Good.
Speaker 7: It's just amazing. So hey, guys, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys are safe. I was really worried.
Speaker 3: Thank you again, Shelley and George Rosenberg there family friends
Speaker 3: from from Saint Petersburg. It is funny there is so
Speaker 3: George mentions it's paradise with the exception of hurricanes. Franklin
Speaker 3: Graham said, the weather's been great this week. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's in the Carolina, so it's different. But I wanted
Speaker 3: to point out, well, there was a Category four hurricanes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, Well it's crazy how I mean, Helene
Speaker 1: just you know, ravaged the area and it's almost a
Speaker 1: distant memory like Helen West.
Speaker 3: Still three point four million people without power in the
Speaker 3: state of Florida. Roofs of roofs, roofs have been what's
Speaker 3: the plural of roof I think he got it. Roofs
Speaker 3: ripped off from coast to coast. One of one of
Speaker 3: those was the roof that's over trop againa Field Baseball
Speaker 3: Stadium in Saint Petersburg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: A lot of places, Sarasota, Fort Myers, all their Gulf
Speaker 3: Coast communities under water, flooded by up to a six
Speaker 3: foot storm surge. In some areas, they're talking about tornadoes
Speaker 3: that touch down. One of them leveled the Saint Lucy
Speaker 3: Sheriff's Department facility. The death toll the last I saw
Speaker 3: was four. They're saying at least four because they still
Speaker 3: have some people that are unaccounted for that they're concerned
Speaker 3: a fall. I guess. Follow up to Hurricane Helene a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, Remember it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3: A North Carolina man lost eleven family members killed in
Speaker 3: a landslide that was caused by that hurricane. This thirty
Speaker 3: five year old guy, his name is Jesse Craig. He
Speaker 3: lost his parents, he lost aunts and uncles, a great aunt,
Speaker 3: and several cousins died in an area of his town
Speaker 3: that everybody known as everybody knows as Craig Town because
Speaker 3: his family had been there for so long.
Speaker 2: Imaginable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's an important reminder of just
Speaker 1: how people are grappling with Hurricane Helene. Still we had
Speaker 1: on in the first hour the president of Smaritan's Purse,
Speaker 1: an organization that's doing incredible work there on the ground
Speaker 1: to still aid in recovery efforts. Are still so many
Speaker 1: people missing, and the news cycle moves on to Milton,
Speaker 1: and so you kind of forget the tragedy of Helene.
Speaker 1: It is not even close to being over, and then
Speaker 1: you hear stories like that one you just shared it,
Speaker 1: and it breaks your heart. So it's important to support
Speaker 1: the people who are on the ground, like Samaritan's Purse,
Speaker 1: who were doing that good work.
Speaker 3: Samaritanspurse dot Org. So you can do that, Lieutenant Dan.
Speaker 3: Obviously we all remember Gary Sinice's character from from Forrest Gump, right,
Speaker 3: missing both legs. This guy's not missing both legs, but Lieutenant.
Speaker 2: Dan, he's missing one leg.
Speaker 3: Is Joseph Malinowski, fifty four year old guy did not
Speaker 3: want to leave. By the way, he survived. I mean,
Speaker 3: spoiler alert, he's alive and he's fine. He made it
Speaker 3: through the night. But this is a guy lives on
Speaker 3: his sailboat, and he did not want to leave Tampa,
Speaker 3: and it looked like he was gonna. I mean, it
Speaker 3: looked pretty sketchy there for a while, him living on
Speaker 3: a sailboat overnight, banging up against the dock that he
Speaker 3: was moored up to. And and he's fine. This is
Speaker 3: just an idea of what they were dealing with yesterday.
Speaker 7: With you right now, I'm right now.
Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong. If I start bouncing around and
Speaker 8: I start hearing things crack and break, I'm getting the
Speaker 8: hell out of here. I don't fear the storm, I
Speaker 8: don't hear anything but the government, the police, the mayor,
Speaker 8: everybody's trying to get me to leave in the worst way.
Speaker 8: I wish they would leave me alone. If nobody saw
Speaker 8: me on TikTok, I'd be out here by myself right
Speaker 8: now doing the same thing I'm doing right now, just
Speaker 8: sitting here. They don't do anything to help you. They
Speaker 8: just tell you that you have to leave, that it's
Speaker 8: a blood zone or whatever, and that you have to evacuate. Well,
Speaker 8: where am I supposed to go and how am I
Speaker 8: supposed to get there? I don't have a car, I
Speaker 8: don't have anywhere to go. And then you tell me
Speaker 8: you're going to put me in a shelter. I'm not
Speaker 8: going to a shelter. I've beenish shelters and I see
Speaker 8: what goes on, and I'm doing my own thing. And
Speaker 8: if I'm merging my life and so be, I'm again
Speaker 8: I'm in God's hands.
Speaker 3: Mayor Jane cast There in Tampa had yesterday said in
Speaker 3: her attempts early in the day to get everybody that's
Speaker 3: going to if you're going to stick around, please go
Speaker 3: to one of our shelters. That's probably the safest place
Speaker 3: to be. She had said, Lieutenant even Lieutenant Dan is
Speaker 3: going to be in a shelter. And he didn't go.
Speaker 3: He did not go there. Was a reporter for Fox
Speaker 3: thirteen out of Tampa who last night at about eleven o'clock,
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking pretty close to the absolute worst
Speaker 3: of the storm, had eyes on Lieutenant Dan in his
Speaker 3: little sailboat banging up against the dock and said, he's
Speaker 3: still in there. I guess he's going to ride this
Speaker 3: thing out well.
Speaker 1: As I mean, let me tell you something. I'm in
Speaker 1: this family group chat and from my Florida side of
Speaker 1: the family, and Lieutenant Dan was the number one topic
Speaker 1: that people repeatedly brought up, and my sister in law
Speaker 1: who kept sharing TikTok videos because everyone, I mean, there
Speaker 1: were people across the nation invested in the outcome and
Speaker 1: well being of Lieutenant Dan, whose real name is Joseph Melanowski,
Speaker 1: and in fact, there's a GoFundMe that is reportedly raised
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand dollars for him. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: been homeless for ten years, and so you know, people
Speaker 1: wanted to rally to help him and do what they can,
Speaker 1: and they call him a national hero.
Speaker 2: The Internet is weird.
Speaker 3: And I think it's this. I think it's that if
Speaker 3: you say the entire state of Florida is under hurricane
Speaker 3: watches and warnings, and seven million people have been told
Speaker 3: to evacuate. That it's almost it's too big for us.
Speaker 3: I mean, especially if we're out here and if someone
Speaker 3: like me, I don't have anybody in Florida that I'm
Speaker 3: particularly concentrating on, hoping that Aunt Susie gets you know,
Speaker 3: safe to a safe place. It's that you now have
Speaker 3: an investment in you know, you see Lieutenant Dan, you
Speaker 3: can you can give to his go fund me page,
Speaker 3: like you care enough about that guy. That's why you're
Speaker 3: going to pay attention to that, to that event, whatever
Speaker 3: it is. Otherwise, it's just it's too much to fathom.
Speaker 3: You can't you can't imagine a twelve foot storm. I mean,
Speaker 3: imagine twelve foot storm, Surgeon Burbank. We can't wrap our
Speaker 3: heads around it because we've never had to live through it.
Speaker 3: People in Florida they've heard. I mean, you heard George
Speaker 3: earlier say, you know, this is what we're used to.
Speaker 6: This.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we have to do this every
Speaker 3: once in a while. This is paradise except for the hurricanes.
Speaker 1: Jim Laws laugh at me when I say, wait, what
Speaker 1: you're staying while at hurricanes? I mean it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to that than being a southern California girl.
Speaker 3: But other people also, I'm sure people, relatives, friends from
Speaker 3: around the country are like, how could you live with
Speaker 3: the possibility of an earthquake every day?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: And it's not for us in California, it's not that
Speaker 3: big a deal. They're fun to some degree. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a point where we'll stop being fun. I should, I assume.
Speaker 1: But the thing is here, you have a huge earthquake
Speaker 1: every decade, you know. There, you have hurricanes every season, right,
Speaker 1: and so to me it seems different. And then I
Speaker 1: went tornado chasing ones and that is scary. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine being an hurricane and then having the chance at tornade.
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you even wrap your mind around
Speaker 1: one hundred mile per hour wins Win Gus and then.
Speaker 3: Around a tornado but you don't know which way it's
Speaker 3: gonna go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean our car actually got hit by a
Speaker 1: little mini tornado when we were tornado chasing, and they
Speaker 1: just they formed so suddenly, And.
Speaker 3: That seems was it loud? That seems loud. It was
Speaker 3: just in the car when it hits the car.
Speaker 1: H I don't I just remember all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: my car was facing east instead of.
Speaker 3: The direction I thought I was going this Joseph Malinowski character.
Speaker 3: By the way, Lieutenant Dan, as much goodwill as he has,
Speaker 3: does have a criminal record. I mean, who doesn't. I
Speaker 3: don't tell what's about that. He spent six months behind
Speaker 3: bars for allegedly punching a police officer when he was
Speaker 3: arrested last year over allegations that he tried to set
Speaker 3: a woman on fire with gasoline. Oh Gosh also reported
Speaker 3: that Lieutenant Dan has an October court date coming up
Speaker 3: sometime soon in a dispute over whether the sailboat that
Speaker 3: he was in is actually his sailboat.
Speaker 1: Oh see, this is when well intended people and those
Speaker 1: who have been part of one hundred thousand dollars donation
Speaker 1: to him are actually doing more harm than good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see whatever becomes of this,
Speaker 3: you know, fifteen minutes of fame for Lieutenant Dan. We
Speaker 3: will get more updates on what's going on with Hurricane
Speaker 3: Milton and the aftermath of Hurricane Milton across Florida come
Speaker 3: up a little bit later. In fact, ABC's Jim Ryan
Speaker 3: we talked to him yesterday as he was preparing for
Speaker 3: Hurricane Milton. He lasted through the night. We believe we
Speaker 3: will check in with him. He was stuck. Stuck, would
Speaker 3: you say, stuck in his car.
Speaker 2: That's where he chose sheltering in play.
Speaker 3: Sheltering in his car. That's a probably a better way
Speaker 3: to put it. One of the Kennedy matriarchs has died.
Speaker 3: Ethel Kennedy has died at the age of ninety six.
Speaker 3: They made the announcement just before the show today. That's
Speaker 3: rfk's widow. She suffered a stroke last week and then
Speaker 3: passed away, they said today, surrounded by family in a
Speaker 3: hospital in Massachusetts. The big deal out of the DC
Speaker 3: area today, Bureau of Labor Statistics came out and said
Speaker 3: consumer prices were up two point four percent from a
Speaker 3: year earlier, higher than expected, but still ticking down just
Speaker 3: a little bit. And then Ditty is expected in court
Speaker 3: again today. He is going to demand that he'd be
Speaker 3: let out on bail. I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 1: That story makes me mad every time I hear it.
Speaker 3: It gets It's weird because the allegations that have been
Speaker 3: made against some of the other people that are supposedly involved,
Speaker 3: or the names of people that are in this sphere involved,
Speaker 3: maybe not even necessarily part of the criminal network. I
Speaker 3: mean you mentioned Denzel Washington supposedly got in some sort
Speaker 3: of a shouting match with Ditty at one of the
Speaker 3: parties and stormed out. Is it because of what Denzel
Speaker 3: saw and didn't want to have any part of it?
Speaker 3: Or why didn't? I mean, he's Denzel Washington. He could
Speaker 3: have hit he could have punched Ditty, he could take
Speaker 3: him out, Yeah, or he calls out a hit on him,
Speaker 3: just like he did on Biggie or Tupac. I guess
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 9: This is taking a turn. Well, listen, it's all got
Speaker 9: to go in the movie at some point, right, It's true. So,
Speaker 9: and then the Justin Bieber connection, too, I think has
Speaker 9: been that's been a worrisome to me. I've not paid
Speaker 9: attention to Justin Bieber ever, but the idea that that kid,
Speaker 9: and again this is all speculation, it's it's all tangential,
Speaker 9: tabloid the stuff right now, But if he was a
Speaker 9: victim of Ditty, because he hasn't come out and said
Speaker 9: that he wasn't, and there's a lot of speculation that
Speaker 9: they spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 3: Yeah that, I mean that it breaks my heart.
Speaker 1: I mean I think of you know, obviously, been talking
Speaker 1: off air a lot about our kids today and my
Speaker 1: six month old daughter. I don't know, just thinking of
Speaker 1: how young he was Bieber when he was introduced. I
Speaker 1: think to do he was what eleven, twelve thirteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: really really young, and he spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: with him. So I'm hoping for the best for his sake.
Speaker 3: But I hope it's not true. I mean, I just
Speaker 3: hope it's like But I don't know. I mean that
Speaker 3: I unfortunately will come out at some point. Portland. We
Speaker 3: talk a lot about Portland and there's an interesting thing
Speaker 3: going on. Portland is a beautiful place. I thought you
Speaker 3: were going to say something else. No, No, I've been
Speaker 3: to Portland a handful of times, and I really like Portland.
Speaker 3: It is beautiful. It's a beautiful place. It's like Seattle's
Speaker 3: cute little brother. I mean, it's kind of like it.
Speaker 3: It has some great old parts of town, great history
Speaker 3: in terms of the just the logging communities that grew
Speaker 3: up around Portland. It's quirky. It is quirky, it's weird.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's that too, super weird.
Speaker 1: I think they have the highest rate of taco trucks
Speaker 1: and stripper places that why can't I think of that word?
Speaker 1: I'm having mom brain strip club, strip clubs.
Speaker 3: I knew you'd know. Wait a minute, you've been a
Speaker 3: strip clubs in Portland. There's a lot of bruises. The
Speaker 3: one hundred days of often violent protests, fentanyl crisis, homelessness crisis,
Speaker 3: COVID crisis. They said that this was arguably the nation's
Speaker 3: boldest progressive policy experiment in recent history, which was the
Speaker 3: decriminalis Decriminalization of all Drugs Measure one to ten. All
Speaker 3: drugs were decriminalized. It was backed by seventy four percent
Speaker 3: of voters in Moltnoma County, which is incredible. And then
Speaker 3: they realized doesn't work so well. Well, and it's funny
Speaker 3: because they used the term unintended consequences about what was
Speaker 3: going to happen. Well, it seems like it's not even
Speaker 3: if they're not unforeseen consequences. You know exactly what's going
Speaker 3: to happen if you legalize all drugs.
Speaker 1: And in their case, it was very clear drug you
Speaker 1: shot up, homelessness got way worse, and a lot of
Speaker 1: tax payers got the heck out of there.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to fix this. Now there are nineteen people
Speaker 3: running for mayor of Oregon, of Portland, I should say,
Speaker 3: ninety eight people who are vying for seats on the
Speaker 3: city council, nearly all of them campaigning on the left
Speaker 3: of center political stance. Perhaps, I mean, it is, after
Speaker 3: all Portland, but at the same time, those who may
Speaker 3: be sort of I mean, I think we saw this
Speaker 3: in San Francisco as well, where Mayor London Breed had
Speaker 3: to do something because she was losing her city. And
Speaker 3: in Portland it's bigger than that. In Portland, it's even
Speaker 3: more destructive, and it's been even more crippling to the
Speaker 3: economy of the city, to the economy of the entire
Speaker 3: county and arguably the state, because Portland is such a
Speaker 3: large portion of it.
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen this trend happening in cities across the nation.
Speaker 1: Seattle got rid of their ultra progressive city council members
Speaker 1: and they did a whole revamp and now things are
Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit better there. But you know,
Speaker 1: clearly these policies don't work. What is surprising to me
Speaker 1: in this news story is that some of the people
Speaker 1: who are running left of center, as you put it,
Speaker 1: are blaming unexpected circumstances like the fentonl crisis, and they're
Speaker 1: blaming the implementation of these policies. So I think there
Speaker 1: are still those who are running who are going to
Speaker 1: try to perpetuate the policies that have not been working, kind.
Speaker 2: Of like what we're seeing in our Los Angeles County.
Speaker 3: DA race, DA's race. The state level. I mean, one
Speaker 3: of the things that I get frustrated about when it
Speaker 3: comes to the political environment, I guess in the state
Speaker 3: of California is an We've had a Democratic super majority
Speaker 3: in the legislature for years. We've had now twelve years
Speaker 3: of democratic governor. I mean the last Schwartzenegger's the last
Speaker 3: Republican governor, and even that is kind of a waffler.
Speaker 3: But you can't continue to blame Republicans for problems when
Speaker 3: they have zero control in Sacramento, right, And that's what
Speaker 3: that's kind of the theme that keeps coming up.
Speaker 1: And what's frustrating to me, which, as we've said during
Speaker 1: this show, and some might know, I ran for US
Speaker 1: Senate earlier this year, and what I saw as a
Speaker 1: journalist and continue to see, is the repeated effort to
Speaker 1: address the.
Speaker 2: Or not treat the root cause.
Speaker 1: They treat the symptom, they slap a band aid on
Speaker 1: the problem rather than getting to the root cause of it.
Speaker 2: And clearly it's not working.
Speaker 1: I mean, even when you look at how we've tried
Speaker 1: to address homelessness in the state, spending twenty billion dollars
Speaker 1: with nothing to show for it's because we keep trying
Speaker 1: to stand.
Speaker 3: We have something to show for it. Twice as many
Speaker 3: homeless people as we have twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would think that the approach would change,
Speaker 1: but we I mean, don't get me started.
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