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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I am six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 2>Have you with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Katla Fox eleven et cetera ran for Senate that little

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<v Speaker 3>thing you're pregnant? What were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, birthd like two weeks after the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she timed it well, well if.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you imagine did you ever think about going in

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<v Speaker 3>a little early and inducing just for the you think

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<v Speaker 3>you would have gotten a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bump, the dramatic effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, well I watching a legend on debate stage

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<v Speaker 1>and my water would break.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have been and you know, that's a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe next time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a movie. You can always leave us a message

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<v Speaker 4>I am so excited you have Christina on because when

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<v Speaker 4>you guys were talking about Adam Shift and the baseball

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<v Speaker 4>legend debate, she should have been on that stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 4>She was the voice of us younger folks and as

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<v Speaker 4>normal folks.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for saying that. You know, I agree, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other story. That's a whole other radio show.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you watch did you watch this recent debate to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you just get frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's it's what I thought of all along.

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<v Speaker 3>There is.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few reasons I decided to throw my

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<v Speaker 1>hat in the ring. And even though it was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the last one to join the race, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was a heavy lift, and I know he

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<v Speaker 1>was going against one of the most entrenched political people

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<v Speaker 1>in the country, Adam Schiff, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought, you're talking about Katie Porter, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the reason I even wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>try or go for it is because I was interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>him and I just felt like the answer I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting was so disingenuous, and so that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>three reasons I decided to run.

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<v Speaker 2>But watch this debate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, ten million dollars was spent on ads to

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<v Speaker 1>elevate Steve Garvey so that he would be in the

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<v Speaker 1>final two. Because Adam Schiff knew that if Steve Garvey

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<v Speaker 1>was in the final two, he would have mathematically zero

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<v Speaker 1>shot of winning in this state as a Republican. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think people are leaning more and more red.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing more people register as Republican. There's been a

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<v Speaker 1>shift towards the right as we've had all these issues

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<v Speaker 1>we've been dealing with as a state, rent immigration and crime. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers just aren't there still, And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Garvey has the chop like he doesn't really when you

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<v Speaker 1>see him debate, you're not particularly inspired.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't inspired by him. I felt like that his

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<v Speaker 3>heart's in the right place. But we need more than

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<v Speaker 3>that for somebody to be a candidate, especially to beat somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, politically entrenched the way Adam Schiff is

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<v Speaker 3>with the support of the National Party, the way he has, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta have somebody who's going to be sharp as attacked,

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<v Speaker 3>sharper than attacked.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately he doesn't know much policy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know in a previous debate they said, can you

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<v Speaker 1>name one regulation you would change if you were elected

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<v Speaker 1>to the US Senate And he couldn't name it. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was screaming at the television sequa, it's sequa,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just you know it's a he doesn't really know.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've turned it into my grandmother and started yelling

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<v Speaker 3>at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm at in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I must say he was very spicy in

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<v Speaker 1>this recent debate. He had one quote where Schiff was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Diane Feinstein and Garvey goes, well, you're no

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<v Speaker 1>Dianne Feinstein.

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<v Speaker 3>So he said yes. Now, that moment actually was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of funny because I felt like it was a to

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<v Speaker 3>use a baseball analogy, it was a foul ball, like

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<v Speaker 3>Adam Schiff tied that thing up, and Steve Garvey knew

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<v Speaker 3>that that like he could see it coming right, but

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<v Speaker 3>he couldn't quite put the ball in play. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he said, you're no Dianne Feinstein. And then Adam Schiff

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, he left it on the field. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I can pick it up. And he said, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>knew Diane Feinstein. I was friends with Diane Feinstein. But

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<v Speaker 3>then he couldn't land the punchline either, because it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>work that way.

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<v Speaker 1>He said something like, you know, I remember when California

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<v Speaker 1>used to be the heartbeat of America and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a murmur. And his delivery was actually kind of funny, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He practiced that. He did quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey guys, good morning. I just started listening a little

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<v Speaker 5>late this morning, so I'm taking a shot in the

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<v Speaker 5>dark here, but I want but the say congratulations on

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<v Speaker 5>I shouldn't get in Christina's Pascucci to fill in with

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<v Speaker 5>U with Gary today for Shannon. I love Shannon, but

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<v Speaker 5>a big fan of Scooch. Well done, and I look

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<v Speaker 5>forward to hearing the rest of the show to hear

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<v Speaker 5>the thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so nice. We got two nice calls. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for not playing the wines. I said, why what is

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<v Speaker 1>it going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, back to Hurricane Milton and what's left of the

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<v Speaker 3>clean up there in Hurricane in Florida. I should say,

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<v Speaker 3>this storm itself is now out in the Atlantic making

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<v Speaker 3>its way farther away from us, thankfully, but Saint Petersburg

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<v Speaker 3>was one of those areas that was inundated overnight and

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<v Speaker 3>joining us now to talk about it. Family friends, Shelley

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<v Speaker 3>and George Rosenberger, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Best friend's in laws who are in Saint Pete. So

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<v Speaker 2>good to have you guys on the show with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you in the midst of you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you've been kind of monitoring the damage, and Shelley, when

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke last night and this morning, you said, You've

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<v Speaker 1>been in Florida your whole life, and you've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>a storm this bad.

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<v Speaker 6>No, never, never. This is the first time that I've

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<v Speaker 6>ever been scared during a storm. True, I mean really

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<v Speaker 6>like really scared, really nervous. Every other time it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>well it's going to come and it'll go and nothing's

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<v Speaker 6>going to happen. But yeah, we were very anxious.

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<v Speaker 7>We were in the cone on the north side of

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<v Speaker 7>the Eye and it was just relentless seven plus mile

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<v Speaker 7>an hour wind and gusts and constant rain for six

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<v Speaker 7>or seven hours. The backyard was flooded, but no damage

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<v Speaker 7>to the house for fortunately.

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<v Speaker 6>George had to empty the pool about seven or eight

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<v Speaker 6>times in the pouring young rain.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 7>Not a wise move. And I won't do it that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you gotta do it, you gotta do And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for us southern California folk, who I consider sixty degrees

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<v Speaker 1>a weather event, I think it's important for people to know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're on that right front, it's particularly dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the risk of not only the winds, the

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<v Speaker 1>surge we've been talking about, the flooding, but tornadoes. I

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<v Speaker 1>had never realized how big of a part of a

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<v Speaker 1>storm a hurricane tornadoes are. Was this more active than

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<v Speaker 1>what you had seen in the past in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the tornadic activity.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh, we were fortunate here Toanellas County that I don't

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<v Speaker 7>recall seeing one tornado warning in Tanellas County, which is

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<v Speaker 7>Saint Pete Clearwater all the way up to tarp and Springs.

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<v Speaker 7>The tornado activity seemed to be east of us, in

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<v Speaker 7>areas like Hillsboro and Polk County, and there were many, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>many of them serious uh tornadoes, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>what the damage was.

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<v Speaker 1>More than one hundred tornado warnings and I think twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty at least confirmed sightings of tornadoes, and unfortunately a

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<v Speaker 1>few people died as a result.

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<v Speaker 3>What is what is the city or the county told

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<v Speaker 3>you in terms of if you need to reach out

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<v Speaker 3>for help, how, how how available is it to you?

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<v Speaker 7>As far as we know, there was non stop uh

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<v Speaker 7>from that came over the local news news stations.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>The weathermen here were great.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>The information and the ticker that at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 7>the screen always told you where the shelters were, which

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<v Speaker 7>ones were open, when to leave, and UH just so

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<v Speaker 7>much information was coming at us that it was it

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<v Speaker 7>was really quite calming actually in the face of all

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<v Speaker 7>of this.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh. And government in DeSantis he was amazing. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>he pre planned and preset all these emergency emergency vehicles

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<v Speaker 6>and he was he was amazing. He was great.

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<v Speaker 7>And they they were well prepared. And as you as

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<v Speaker 7>you know that we knew the hurricane was headed somewhere

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<v Speaker 7>near us for for days and days, and the sheriff

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<v Speaker 7>here in Panellas County, Bob well Thierry, Uh, he took

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<v Speaker 7>charge for the county and uh, I mean everything went

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<v Speaker 7>as smoothly as it could. The first responders stayed out

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<v Speaker 7>on the street until the wind gusts got to where

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<v Speaker 7>it was dangerous and they were ordered to themselves seek shelter. Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>It really Yeah, a lot of time to plan and

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<v Speaker 7>really great response. The law enforcement and fire department rescue

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<v Speaker 7>people here in this county are wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>That's incredible to hear when government works as intended.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, yeah, yeah, sure here, no problem. And you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we had so much devastation from Helene just just a

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<v Speaker 7>short while ago, uh, that people weren't allowed back on

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<v Speaker 7>the beach for days and restaurants and famous landmarks were crushed,

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<v Speaker 7>and I mean we haven't even recovered from that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>and then this happens. But they allowed the people back

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<v Speaker 7>on the beaches actually today, as early as this morning,

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<v Speaker 7>so there was no delay for those people to go

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<v Speaker 7>back on the beach and get back busy again to

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<v Speaker 7>their homes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good, all right, Well, Shelley, George, we wish you

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<v Speaker 3>the best of luck. And it sounds like once you

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<v Speaker 3>get that pool cleaned out, George, then you can you

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<v Speaker 3>can just sit back and relax. Yeah, get a cocktail time.

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<v Speaker 7>I will tell you we have a wonderful lunai and

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<v Speaker 7>pool situation. And believe me, listeners, this is really paradise here.

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<v Speaker 6>Except for hur.

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<v Speaker 7>Little details, and you know, the Luni is still standing.

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<v Speaker 6>Good.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just amazing. So hey, guys, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you guys are safe. I was really worried.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you again, Shelley and George Rosenberg there family friends

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<v Speaker 3>from from Saint Petersburg. It is funny there is so

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<v Speaker 3>George mentions it's paradise with the exception of hurricanes. Franklin

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<v Speaker 3>Graham said, the weather's been great this week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he's in the Carolina, so it's different. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to point out, well, there was a Category four hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but anyway, Well it's crazy how I mean, Helene

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, ravaged the area and it's almost a

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<v Speaker 1>distant memory like Helen West.

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<v Speaker 3>Still three point four million people without power in the

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<v Speaker 3>state of Florida. Roofs of roofs, roofs have been what's

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<v Speaker 3>the plural of roof I think he got it. Roofs

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<v Speaker 3>ripped off from coast to coast. One of one of

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<v Speaker 3>those was the roof that's over trop againa Field Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of places, Sarasota, Fort Myers, all their Gulf

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<v Speaker 3>Coast communities under water, flooded by up to a six

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<v Speaker 3>foot storm surge. In some areas, they're talking about tornadoes

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<v Speaker 3>that touch down. One of them leveled the Saint Lucy

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<v Speaker 3>Sheriff's Department facility. The death toll the last I saw

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<v Speaker 3>a fall. I guess. Follow up to Hurricane Helene a

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<v Speaker 3>A North Carolina man lost eleven family members killed in

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<v Speaker 3>a landslide that was caused by that hurricane. This thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five year old guy, his name is Jesse Craig. He

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<v Speaker 3>that everybody known as everybody knows as Craig Town because

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that's an important reminder of just

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<v Speaker 1>how people are grappling with Hurricane Helene. Still we had

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<v Speaker 1>on in the first hour the president of Smaritan's Purse,

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<v Speaker 1>an organization that's doing incredible work there on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>to still aid in recovery efforts. Are still so many

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<v Speaker 1>people missing, and the news cycle moves on to Milton,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you kind of forget the tragedy of Helene.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not even close to being over, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you hear stories like that one you just shared it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it breaks your heart. So it's important to support

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are on the ground, like Samaritan's Purse,

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<v Speaker 1>who were doing that good work.

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<v Speaker 3>Samaritanspurse dot Org. So you can do that, Lieutenant Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously we all remember Gary Sinice's character from from Forrest Gump, right,

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<v Speaker 3>missing both legs. This guy's not missing both legs, but Lieutenant.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, he's missing one leg.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Joseph Malinowski, fifty four year old guy did not

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<v Speaker 3>want to leave. By the way, he survived. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>spoiler alert, he's alive and he's fine. He made it

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<v Speaker 3>through the night. But this is a guy lives on

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<v Speaker 3>his sailboat, and he did not want to leave Tampa,

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<v Speaker 3>and it looked like he was gonna. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 3>looked pretty sketchy there for a while, him living on

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<v Speaker 3>a sailboat overnight, banging up against the dock that he

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<v Speaker 3>was moored up to. And and he's fine. This is

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<v Speaker 3>just an idea of what they were dealing with yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>With you right now, I'm right now.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't get me wrong. If I start bouncing around and

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<v Speaker 8>I start hearing things crack and break, I'm getting the

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<v Speaker 8>hell out of here. I don't fear the storm, I

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<v Speaker 8>don't hear anything but the government, the police, the mayor,

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<v Speaker 8>everybody's trying to get me to leave in the worst way.

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<v Speaker 8>I wish they would leave me alone. If nobody saw

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<v Speaker 8>me on TikTok, I'd be out here by myself right

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<v Speaker 8>now doing the same thing I'm doing right now, just

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<v Speaker 8>sitting here. They don't do anything to help you. They

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<v Speaker 8>just tell you that you have to leave, that it's

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<v Speaker 8>a blood zone or whatever, and that you have to evacuate. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>where am I supposed to go and how am I

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<v Speaker 8>supposed to get there? I don't have a car, I

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<v Speaker 8>don't have anywhere to go. And then you tell me

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<v Speaker 8>you're going to put me in a shelter. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>going to a shelter. I've beenish shelters and I see

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<v Speaker 8>what goes on, and I'm doing my own thing. And

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<v Speaker 8>if I'm merging my life and so be, I'm again

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<v Speaker 8>I'm in God's hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Mayor Jane cast There in Tampa had yesterday said in

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<v Speaker 3>her attempts early in the day to get everybody that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to if you're going to stick around, please go

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<v Speaker 3>to one of our shelters. That's probably the safest place

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<v Speaker 3>to be. She had said, Lieutenant even Lieutenant Dan is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in a shelter. And he didn't go.

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<v Speaker 3>He did not go there. Was a reporter for Fox

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen out of Tampa who last night at about eleven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're talking pretty close to the absolute worst

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<v Speaker 3>of the storm, had eyes on Lieutenant Dan in his

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<v Speaker 3>little sailboat banging up against the dock and said, he's

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<v Speaker 3>still in there. I guess he's going to ride this

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<v Speaker 1>As I mean, let me tell you something. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>this family group chat and from my Florida side of

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<v Speaker 1>the family, and Lieutenant Dan was the number one topic

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<v Speaker 1>that people repeatedly brought up, and my sister in law

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<v Speaker 1>who kept sharing TikTok videos because everyone, I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>were people across the nation invested in the outcome and

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<v Speaker 1>well being of Lieutenant Dan, whose real name is Joseph Melanowski,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, there's a GoFundMe that is reportedly raised

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred thousand dollars for him. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>been homeless for ten years, and so you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to rally to help him and do what they can,

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<v Speaker 1>and they call him a national hero.

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<v Speaker 2>The Internet is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's this. I think it's that if

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<v Speaker 3>you say the entire state of Florida is under hurricane

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<v Speaker 3>watches and warnings, and seven million people have been told

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<v Speaker 3>to evacuate. That it's almost it's too big for us.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, especially if we're out here and if someone

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<v Speaker 3>like me, I don't have anybody in Florida that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>particularly concentrating on, hoping that Aunt Susie gets you know,

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<v Speaker 3>safe to a safe place. It's that you now have

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<v Speaker 3>an investment in you know, you see Lieutenant Dan, you

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<v Speaker 3>can you can give to his go fund me page,

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<v Speaker 3>like you care enough about that guy. That's why you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to pay attention to that, to that event, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is. Otherwise, it's just it's too much to fathom.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't you can't imagine a twelve foot storm. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine twelve foot storm, Surgeon Burbank. We can't wrap our

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<v Speaker 3>heads around it because we've never had to live through it.

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<v Speaker 3>People in Florida they've heard. I mean, you heard George

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<v Speaker 3>earlier say, you know, this is what we're used to.

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<v Speaker 6>This.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, we have to do this every

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<v Speaker 3>once in a while. This is paradise except for the hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Laws laugh at me when I say, wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>you're staying while at hurricanes? I mean it's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to that than being a southern California girl.

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<v Speaker 3>But other people also, I'm sure people, relatives, friends from

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<v Speaker 3>around the country are like, how could you live with

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<v Speaker 3>the possibility of an earthquake every day?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not for us in California, it's not that

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<v Speaker 3>big a deal. They're fun to some degree. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a point where we'll stop being fun. I should, I assume.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is here, you have a huge earthquake

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<v Speaker 1>every decade, you know. There, you have hurricanes every season, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so to me it seems different. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>went tornado chasing ones and that is scary. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine being an hurricane and then having the chance at tornade.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you even wrap your mind around

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred mile per hour wins Win Gus and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Around a tornado but you don't know which way it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean our car actually got hit by a

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<v Speaker 1>little mini tornado when we were tornado chasing, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just they formed so suddenly, And.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems was it loud? That seems loud. It was

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<v Speaker 3>just in the car when it hits the car.

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<v Speaker 1>H I don't I just remember all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>my car was facing east instead of.

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<v Speaker 3>The direction I thought I was going this Joseph Malinowski character.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Lieutenant Dan, as much goodwill as he has,

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<v Speaker 3>does have a criminal record. I mean, who doesn't. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't tell what's about that. He spent six months behind

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<v Speaker 3>bars for allegedly punching a police officer when he was

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<v Speaker 3>arrested last year over allegations that he tried to set

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<v Speaker 3>a woman on fire with gasoline. Oh Gosh also reported

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<v Speaker 3>that Lieutenant Dan has an October court date coming up

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<v Speaker 3>sometime soon in a dispute over whether the sailboat that

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<v Speaker 3>he was in is actually his sailboat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh see, this is when well intended people and those

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<v Speaker 1>who have been part of one hundred thousand dollars donation

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<v Speaker 1>to him are actually doing more harm than good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we'll see, we'll see whatever becomes of this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fifteen minutes of fame for Lieutenant Dan. We

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<v Speaker 3>will get more updates on what's going on with Hurricane

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<v Speaker 3>Milton and the aftermath of Hurricane Milton across Florida come

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<v Speaker 3>up a little bit later. In fact, ABC's Jim Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>we talked to him yesterday as he was preparing for

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<v Speaker 3>Hurricane Milton. He lasted through the night. We believe we

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<v Speaker 3>will check in with him. He was stuck. Stuck, would

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<v Speaker 3>you say, stuck in his car.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where he chose sheltering in play.

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<v Speaker 3>Sheltering in his car. That's a probably a better way

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<v Speaker 3>to put it. One of the Kennedy matriarchs has died.

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<v Speaker 3>Ethel Kennedy has died at the age of ninety six.

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<v Speaker 3>They made the announcement just before the show today. That's

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<v Speaker 3>rfk's widow. She suffered a stroke last week and then

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<v Speaker 3>passed away, they said today, surrounded by family in a

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<v Speaker 3>hospital in Massachusetts. The big deal out of the DC

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<v Speaker 3>area today, Bureau of Labor Statistics came out and said

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<v Speaker 3>consumer prices were up two point four percent from a

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<v Speaker 3>year earlier, higher than expected, but still ticking down just

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. And then Ditty is expected in court

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<v Speaker 3>again today. He is going to demand that he'd be

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<v Speaker 3>let out on bail. I don't think that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>That story makes me mad every time I hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets It's weird because the allegations that have been

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<v Speaker 3>made against some of the other people that are supposedly involved,

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<v Speaker 3>or the names of people that are in this sphere involved,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not even necessarily part of the criminal network. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you mentioned Denzel Washington supposedly got in some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a shouting match with Ditty at one of the

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<v Speaker 3>parties and stormed out. Is it because of what Denzel

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<v Speaker 3>saw and didn't want to have any part of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Or why didn't? I mean, he's Denzel Washington. He could

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<v Speaker 3>have hit he could have punched Ditty, he could take

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<v Speaker 3>him out, Yeah, or he calls out a hit on him,

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<v Speaker 3>just like he did on Biggie or Tupac. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it was.

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<v Speaker 9>This is taking a turn. Well, listen, it's all got

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<v Speaker 9>to go in the movie at some point, right, It's true. So,

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<v Speaker 9>and then the Justin Bieber connection, too, I think has

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<v Speaker 9>been that's been a worrisome to me. I've not paid

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<v Speaker 9>attention to Justin Bieber ever, but the idea that that kid,

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<v Speaker 9>and again this is all speculation, it's it's all tangential,

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<v Speaker 9>tabloid the stuff right now, But if he was a

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<v Speaker 9>victim of Ditty, because he hasn't come out and said

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<v Speaker 9>that he wasn't, and there's a lot of speculation that

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<v Speaker 9>they spent a lot of time together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that, I mean that it breaks my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think of you know, obviously, been talking

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<v Speaker 1>six month old daughter. I don't know, just thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>how young he was Bieber when he was introduced. I

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<v Speaker 1>think to do he was what eleven, twelve thirteen? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>really really young, and he spent a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>with him. So I'm hoping for the best for his sake.

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<v Speaker 3>But I hope it's not true. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 3>hope it's like But I don't know. I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>I unfortunately will come out at some point. Portland. We

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<v Speaker 3>talk a lot about Portland and there's an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 3>going on. Portland is a beautiful place. I thought you

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<v Speaker 3>were going to say something else. No, No, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>to Portland a handful of times, and I really like Portland.

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<v Speaker 3>It is beautiful. It's a beautiful place. It's like Seattle's

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<v Speaker 3>cute little brother. I mean, it's kind of like it.

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<v Speaker 3>It has some great old parts of town, great history

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the just the logging communities that grew

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<v Speaker 3>up around Portland. It's quirky. It is quirky, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's there's that too, super weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have the highest rate of taco trucks

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<v Speaker 1>and stripper places that why can't I think of that word?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having mom brain strip club, strip clubs.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew you'd know. Wait a minute, you've been a

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<v Speaker 3>strip clubs in Portland. There's a lot of bruises. The

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred days of often violent protests, fentanyl crisis, homelessness crisis,

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<v Speaker 3>COVID crisis. They said that this was arguably the nation's

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<v Speaker 3>boldest progressive policy experiment in recent history, which was the

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<v Speaker 3>decriminalis Decriminalization of all Drugs Measure one to ten. All

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<v Speaker 3>drugs were decriminalized. It was backed by seventy four percent

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<v Speaker 3>of voters in Moltnoma County, which is incredible. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they realized doesn't work so well. Well, and it's funny

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<v Speaker 3>because they used the term unintended consequences about what was

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen. Well, it seems like it's not even

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<v Speaker 3>if they're not unforeseen consequences. You know exactly what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen if you legalize all drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>And in their case, it was very clear drug you

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<v Speaker 1>shot up, homelessness got way worse, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>tax payers got the heck out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants to fix this. Now there are nineteen people

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<v Speaker 3>running for mayor of Oregon, of Portland, I should say,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight people who are vying for seats on the

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<v Speaker 3>city council, nearly all of them campaigning on the left

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<v Speaker 3>of center political stance. Perhaps, I mean, it is, after

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<v Speaker 3>all Portland, but at the same time, those who may

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<v Speaker 3>be sort of I mean, I think we saw this

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<v Speaker 3>in San Francisco as well, where Mayor London Breed had

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<v Speaker 3>to do something because she was losing her city. And

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<v Speaker 3>in Portland it's bigger than that. In Portland, it's even

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<v Speaker 3>more destructive, and it's been even more crippling to the

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<v Speaker 3>economy of the city, to the economy of the entire

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<v Speaker 3>county and arguably the state, because Portland is such a

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<v Speaker 3>large portion of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've seen this trend happening in cities across the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle got rid of their ultra progressive city council members

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<v Speaker 1>and they did a whole revamp and now things are

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get a little bit better there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly these policies don't work. What is surprising to me

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<v Speaker 1>in this news story is that some of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are running left of center, as you put it,

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<v Speaker 1>are blaming unexpected circumstances like the fentonl crisis, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>blaming the implementation of these policies. So I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are still those who are running who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to perpetuate the policies that have not been working, kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like what we're seeing in our Los Angeles County.

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<v Speaker 3>DA race, DA's race. The state level. I mean, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that I get frustrated about when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to the political environment, I guess in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of California is an We've had a Democratic super majority

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<v Speaker 3>in the legislature for years. We've had now twelve years

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<v Speaker 3>of democratic governor. I mean the last Schwartzenegger's the last

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<v Speaker 3>Republican governor, and even that is kind of a waffler.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't continue to blame Republicans for problems when

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<v Speaker 3>they have zero control in Sacramento, right, And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of the theme that keeps coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's frustrating to me, which, as we've said during

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<v Speaker 1>this show, and some might know, I ran for US

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<v Speaker 1>Senate earlier this year, and what I saw as a

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<v Speaker 1>journalist and continue to see, is the repeated effort to

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<v Speaker 1>address the.

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<v Speaker 2>Or not treat the root cause.

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<v Speaker 1>They treat the symptom, they slap a band aid on

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<v Speaker 1>the problem rather than getting to the root cause of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly it's not working.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even when you look at how we've tried

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<v Speaker 1>to address homelessness in the state, spending twenty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>with nothing to show for it's because we keep trying

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<v Speaker 1>to stand.

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<v Speaker 3>We have something to show for it. Twice as many

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<v Speaker 3>homeless people as we have twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you would think that the approach would change,

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<v Speaker 1>but we I mean, don't get me started.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Shannon will continue right after this. You've been listening

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