WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:10.720 The murder of Lindsay Anne Hawker is a case that 2 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:15.160 captured international attention. Lindsay was a young British woman teaching 3 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:19.399 English in Japan before her body was found buried in 4 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:22.719 a bathtub filled with soil in two thousand and seven. 5 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:27.160 The following manhunt would keep the perpetrator running for years 6 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:32.479 and seeking out extreme measures to hide their identity. 7 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:35.640 My name is Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening 8 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.000 to Wicked and Grim, a true crime podcast. 9 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:46.119 The following podcast and material intended for a mature audience 10 00:00:46.920 --> 00:01:12.519 listener discretion. That was the slowest opening of a can 11 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.120 I think in the history of our podcast. 12 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:17.280 I'm very rusty about. 13 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:21.359 Like, for ten seconds before we even actually had the 14 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:24.560 podcast going, Nicole was struggling with that tab. 15 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.280 Are you going to put that on the video? Oh? 16 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.519 Definitely, it'll be on YouTube. You'll see the struggle for sure. 17 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.519 With my double chin problemly. 18 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:34.000 Trust me, we all have it. Why do you think 19 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:34.480 I have a beer? 20 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:37.359 I haven't had a bevy on here for a while. No, 21 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:39.640 you haven't gonna sit back and relax. 22 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:42.159 I'm sitting back sipping some water through straw. 23 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:45.000 Yeah, because you're having some issues. 24 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:46.760 I am having some issues. I don't know if you 25 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:49.239 guys can hear it in my voice, but I've been 26 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:51.159 sick a little bit last couple of days. I already 27 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:53.840 feel like I'm getting better, but I pretty much lost 28 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.959 my voice yesterday, so recovering a bit. Hopefully it don't 29 00:01:57.959 --> 00:01:59.879 sound too bad. Hopefully it don't fade too much as 30 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:00.959 this episode goes on. 31 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:03.599 I know it's too bad. I wish I had an 32 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:05.959 episode done, but I do not. Yeah, so I can't 33 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:06.719 really help you out. 34 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.039 It's all good, though. I mean, I do have your 35 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.919 support when I need it usually, and we also usually 36 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.759 have the support of our patrons who are here thanking 37 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.479 us all the time because they get the awesome behind 38 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:19.599 the scenes and we are thanking them for being so 39 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:20.680 amazing to us. 40 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:23.000 They sure do. They get some cool behind the scenes. 41 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.759 Actually they do. So this week we had a few 42 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:27.400 awesome people sign up and we're going to give them 43 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.479 a shout out. We had Jamie sign up, Michael B. 44 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:36.800 Misty Smith, Chris and Carter than Drill. Thank you very much. 45 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.120 You guys appreciate it so much. Yeah, they're getting all 46 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:41.199 that good behind the scenes. The extra episode at the 47 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:41.840 end of the month. 48 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.319 Yeah, and it's almost the end of the month it is. 49 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:47.360 So we got to get on that episode. I just 50 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:51.319 realized maybe it's maybe we'll do the one where I 51 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:54.360 was watching that documentary. 52 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:56.240 On Well, yeah, Ben's doing like the intro, and I 53 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.240 was like, uh, I thought we were doing another case. 54 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:01.680 No, I just got a bunch of cases on the 55 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:02.240 go all at once. 56 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:04.439 Yeah, you do this one sounds interesting, though. 57 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:06.719 I'm also reading a book for another case, which is 58 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.560 it's a tough book. But uh yeah, that's besides the point. 59 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.439 We'll touch on that one eventually. 60 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.520 Yeah, look at you, just working away. 61 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.199 Work work, work, work, work. I don't even know that song, 62 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:18.680 but that's the only part of it I know. I 63 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:21.719 don't even know who sings it or anything. It just work, work, work, work, 64 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:22.479 that's all I got. 65 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:24.719 Yeah. I don't know what I can help you right now. 66 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:29.759 Actually yeah, yeah, I don't know anyways. So, yeah, this 67 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:33.479 is the case of Lindsay and Hawker. Are you ready 68 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:34.400 to dive into this one? 69 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.680 I guess so, I guess so. Yeah, Well for. 70 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:40.199 This one, we're gonna hop on a plane. We're gonna 71 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:44.680 go all the way over to Japan. So buckle your 72 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:50.080 seatbelts because here we go. So Lindsay and Hawker was 73 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:54.639 born on December thirtieth, nineteen eighty four, in Conventory, England. 74 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.439 She grew up in a loving family with two sisters 75 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.360 and was known for her her smarts. Is known for 76 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.319 her smarts not only though, but her kindness and adventurous 77 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:07.000 spirit as well. On top of it all, Lindsay was very, 78 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:12.800 very very smart. I said smart at the beginning, because 79 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:14.879 she is exactly that. I want to highlight that verse. 80 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.279 She is incredibly smart. She actually graduated from the University 81 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:21.560 of Leeds with a degree in biology in two thousand 82 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:25.079 and six. She also harbored a deep desire to explore 83 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.639 the world, and she was very eagerly anticipating embarking on 84 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:33.319 a global journey with her boyfriend, Ryan garsaid. So the 85 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.120 two are just like, yeah, We're going to just go 86 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.120 see the world together, which is adorable as fuck. 87 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:37.519 Yeah. 88 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.879 Yeah. So they planned to travel the world, you know, 89 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.240 diving into whatever cultural experiences they could. Right However, before 90 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.680 setting off in their adventure, Lindsay accepted a teaching position 91 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.920 in Tokyo, Japan, which would temporarily delay their plans. Being 92 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.800 the fact that she's so smart, of course, she's going 93 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.600 to be, you know, a teacher, right, So they agreed 94 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.800 that Ryan would join her the following summer after she 95 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:04.279 she did this role for a little while, at which 96 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.839 point they would finally, you know, commence their long awaited 97 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:11.120 travels across the globe. So in two thousand and seven, 98 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.199 at the age of twenty two, Lindsay arrived in Japan 99 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.079 to begin her role at the Tokyo Nova Language School 100 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.480 and quickly adapted to her new environment, making friends and 101 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.800 enjoying the experiences of living abroad and of course keeping 102 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.560 in touch with her parents and family and friends and. 103 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.839 Boyfriends and her boyfriend yeah, yep, And she. 104 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.399 Was doing great and ensuring everything's going good. She's safe, 105 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.120 it's a fantastic place to be and all that sort 106 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.560 of thing. She embraced all the challenges of living in 107 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.680 a foreign country. She's enthusiastic about the opportunities. Like I said, 108 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:45.000 they kept in close contact, where she kept in close 109 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.199 contact with her family, you name it. Lindsay didn't know though, 110 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:53.759 but soon her world would come crashing down. And it 111 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:56.959 all occurred when she met an individual by the name 112 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:02.680 of Tatsuya Ichi Hashi. Now. Tatsuya was born in Gifu Prefecture, 113 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.879 Japan in nineteen seventy nine. He came from a very 114 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:09.480 well off family and was well educated, having attended Chu 115 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:14.279 University of Tokyo. Despite his privileged background, though, Tatsuya led 116 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.040 a bit of a troubled life, exhibiting antisocial behavior and 117 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:22.680 showing signs of instability. He struggled to find his place 118 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:26.480 in society and had a history of violent behavior, which 119 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:30.240 was known to some of his acquaintances. On the morning 120 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.759 of March twenty first, in two thousand and seven, Lindsay 121 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:38.199 was at a coffee shop near Guyotku train station in 122 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.560 the eastern part of Tokyo. It was here that she 123 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:46.160 would finally meet Tatsuya for the first time. Now, Tatsuya 124 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.759 approached Lindsay and struck up a conversation while she was 125 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:50.920 sitting there at the coffee shop. He claimed that he 126 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.040 wanted to learn English, and he presented himself as a 127 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.519 prospective student and showed a keen interest in taking private 128 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:03.120 English lessons from her. So right here, like they haven't 129 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.040 met before, they don't know who each other are. 130 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:08.079 I was just wondering, I was gonna ask, does he 131 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.240 know did he know her before? 132 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.560 No? But clearly he has some idea of who she is. 133 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:18.839 H Okay, Yeah, that's that's sort of unsettling. 134 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:21.480 Just a little bit. It's almost like he's been watching 135 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:21.920 or something. 136 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:22.360 Yeah. 137 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.720 But by the sounds of this interaction, though, it sounds 138 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.120 like he played it off like like almost like he 139 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.600 recognized her, like as being an English teacher from somewhere, 140 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.279 like I saw some articles where he claimed that he 141 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.639 was like a student of hers or something along those lines. Already. 142 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.240 Oh okay, and he was looking more for private lessons 143 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:41.920 for anything. But she didn't recognize him or know who 144 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.480 he was so regardless. During their conversations together at the 145 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:49.160 coffee shop, Tatsuya actually asked if you could sketch a 146 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:52.839 portrait of her as well. Lindsay found this request a 147 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.560 little bit unusual, but you know, she agreed. 148 00:07:55.839 --> 00:08:00.160 Oh shit, man, this is the worst coffee shop encounter ever. 149 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.639 I would be like, hell no, hell no, hell no no. 150 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:05.319 Well, I mean you can actually go online, you can 151 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:06.360 see the sketch as well. 152 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:09.399 Oh my gosh. Can you just imagine some random person 153 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:11.759 a like knowing what the fuck you do for a 154 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.360 living and then be asking like if they can just 155 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:15.920 draw you? 156 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.040 Well, I mean, by the sound like the way we're 157 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:21.199 presenting it and looking at it from the outside, I'm 158 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:26.360 sure it sounds rather obtuse, if you will, But put 159 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.360 it this way, assume you're in Lindsay's shoes, and assume 160 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:32.159 that you're trusting this guy that, yeah, he is a 161 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.720 student at the place that you're teaching. Maybe they had 162 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.600 a conversation and how he's passionate about not only learning 163 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:41.679 other languages but also art as well, and then maybe 164 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.360 she's like, Oh, that's awesome you doing art. What kind 165 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:44.600 of stuff do you do? He's like, Oh, I do 166 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.000 like portrait sketches and stuff. I could draw you if 167 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.320 you like. Is that okay? I'll draw you? Now? What 168 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.279 if it's a casual conversation like that. 169 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.919 Yeah, still no, okay, okay, I would still be like no, 170 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.360 fair enough, Like it just seems so weird to me. 171 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.639 Fair enough, I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here. 172 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:02.519 Yeah, I mean, like, at least let's go for coffee 173 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.559 a second time and then maybe we'll chat about that. 174 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:10.320 Understandable. Well, she agreed instead of turning him down, and 175 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:12.759 as he sketched, they continued to talk and he expressed 176 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:16.519 his desire to improve his English skills. This interaction all 177 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:21.200 seemed harmless and went rather professional, fitting into Lindsay's role 178 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.759 as an English teacher right who often interacted with individuals 179 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:29.080 interested in learning the language. A bit more so. After 180 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:32.360 a while, Lindsay actually agreed to give him an English lesson, 181 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.600 a private one. So they arranged me in at his 182 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:37.279 apartment on March twenty fifth, two thousand and seven for 183 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.679 the lesson, meeting him outside of her regular teaching hours. 184 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:46.480 Now I understand, especially Nicole's face right now, She's like, h, 185 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:52.480 this wasn't anything out of the ordinary. Really wasn't anything 186 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.320 entirely unusual. A lot of English teachers in Japan offered 187 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:59.360 private lessons to supplement their income, so it was kind 188 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:01.679 of a normal thing to go to someone's place and 189 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:03.039 actually teach them. 190 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.759 Okay, I feel like, yeah, the teaching thing and the 191 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:10.519 private lesson seems totally fine. Yeah, But I feel like 192 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.799 if they had just maybe done it in a public 193 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.960 space like the coffee shop, well it might have been better. 194 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:19.039 I do mention a little bit later on when they 195 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:20.879 actually do meet up, they did plan to meet at 196 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:23.480 a coffee shop again first and then from there go 197 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.519 to his apartment. Okay, So the plan is, yeah, we're 198 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.440 going to meet up on this date. We're going to 199 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.200 go to your apartment, but we're meeting at coffee shop 200 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.840 again first. So we'll meet at the coffee shop, go 201 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:34.120 to your apartment for the lesson. 202 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:37.960 I just mean doing the lesson entirely at the coffee 203 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:39.679 shop would be a better idea, fair. 204 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:43.320 Enough, but that's not going to prevent anything sketchy from happening. 205 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:47.440 Say on the second lesson in the apartment, then well. 206 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:51.399 I just mean forever doing the lesson now way, okay, okay, 207 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.120 fair enough. I'm not going along with any of this 208 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:55.679 Devil's Advocate stuff, am I. 209 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:58.679 No, you're not. But I mean, honestly, there's a lot 210 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.799 of people who do I have a tutor lessons at home, 211 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.039 not even just educational wise, but they think music lessons, 212 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.799 piano lessons, yeah, something seeing lessons or whatever it is. 213 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.759 Maybe true home inspectors go into your home and inspect 214 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:15.919 like there's a lot of jobs. We covered the pizza 215 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.720 murders not too long ago, where pizza delivery people come 216 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:19.399 to your house. 217 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:22.039 Well, and I honestly I had a tutor when I 218 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:23.759 was in high school, and they came to my house. 219 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:25.399 There you go to teach me how to do math, 220 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:26.600 because math is really hard. 221 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.519 Math do suck? Sometimes? Do be like that? Well, anyways, 222 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.960 we digress on the dad lesson. Lindsay informed her boyfriend 223 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.679 Ryan and her friends about the planned meeting and even 224 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:42.519 provided Tatsuya's address as a precaution. So good on her, Yeah, 225 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:46.399 it showed her her awareness for potential risk for sure. Now. 226 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.840 What Lindsay didn't know, though, was that Tatsuya had a 227 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:53.279 reputation for following foreign women and for being overly persistent 228 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.840 in his attempts to engage with them, along with his 229 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:02.559 aforementioned violent behavior. So in March twenty fifth, two thousand 230 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.679 and seven, Lindsay met Tatsuya as planned. They spent a 231 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.320 little bit of time at their initial meeting place at 232 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:12.240 the cafe, and then headed to his apartment thereafter. What 233 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:18.399 exactly transpired within the confines of his apartment remains partially speculative, 234 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:24.200 but the tragic outcome is well documented. Once Lindsay entered 235 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:27.480 Tatsuya's home and the door was closed behind them, he 236 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:32.519 immediately struck. Tatsuya had planned this all out in his head, 237 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.320 and he had prepared for the encounter by securing his 238 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.360 apartment and ensuring that Lindsay would be isolated and unable 239 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:40.960 to escape ship. 240 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.200 This is just a freaking worst nightmare. 241 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:47.039 Both individuals were now engaged in a fight, but for 242 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:50.120 Lindsay it was a fight for her life. She did 243 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.799 have a background in kickboxing and she knew how to 244 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:57.360 defend herself well, but unfortunately she was no meant for Tatsuya, 245 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:02.279 who also had a background and an extensive background in judo, 246 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:07.879 and his skills allowed him to easily overpower her. Soon 247 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.519 it would be noticed by Lindsay's colleagues and friends and 248 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:16.120 boyfriend that something was wrong. She wasn't responding to messages 249 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.080 or calls. Her boyfriend Ryan specifically knew when she was 250 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.879 supposed to be done it to Tetsuya's home and he 251 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:28.240 hadn't been able to reach her. Concern quickly grew, and 252 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:32.879 eventually a report was made that she was missing. Police 253 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:36.559 were also provided information about the meeting and Tetsuya's address. 254 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:40.519 Luckily, and he probably didn't know that she had given 255 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.759 this to anyone. Eh, I'm assuming no he did not. Okay, no, 256 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:45.480 no good on her? 257 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:49.639 Yeah, no kidding? She that's huge and honestly that's played 258 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.120 a huge role in this because if that wasn't the case, 259 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:54.200 she could have who knows. 260 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:57.480 Yeah, I mean yeah, like sometimes jobs and stuff and 261 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:01.279 just put you in a situation that unfortunately could turn 262 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:04.120 like this. But I always think it's smart when someone 263 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:05.919 provides an address of where they're going. 264 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:09.759 I agree. Now, I'm not too sure exactly on when 265 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.000 the missing person's report was filed, but it would be 266 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.879 the next day, on March twenty six, two thousand and seven, 267 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.879 just one day after she was last seen and went 268 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:21.720 to the meeting with Tatsuya. That the police went to 269 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:25.000 his apartment. When they arrived and knocked on the door, 270 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:29.440 they were greeted by Tatsuya, who opened the door. However, 271 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:32.399 upon him realizing that the police were there to investigate, 272 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:37.360 he quickly fled the scene barefoot, managing to escape despite 273 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:40.120 the presence of several officers. 274 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.000 Well, they weren't expecting that, No, they weren't. Holy shit, 275 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:48.759 and obviously, like that's some serious suspicion right there right there. Yeah, 276 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:50.159 that just run. 277 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:53.200 I agree. That also plays a huge part in this case. 278 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.639 So upon the police entering the apartment looking for Lindsey, 279 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:03.679 they managed to make a grim Discovery. Lindsay's body was 280 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.919 found in a bathtub on the balcony. The bathtub was removed, 281 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.200 I'm presuming it's like a claw foot bathtub style or 282 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:14.799 something was removed and put onto the balcony. Her body 283 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:16.879 was then laid in there and buried under a layer 284 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:20.360 of sand and compost. It was his attempt to conceal 285 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:23.080 her body and mask any odors. 286 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:26.000 Huh, that's a new one. 287 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:27.240 Yeah, definitely. 288 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:28.320 Holy shit. 289 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.440 Now, it also could be a different style of bathtub, 290 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:33.039 because I know in Japan there's a lot of like 291 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.200 small apartments and stuff, and so there's like collapsible bathtubs 292 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:40.399 and like a lot of like different different living style 293 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:42.159 gadgets and things. So I don't know if it's a 294 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:44.679 claw foot bathtub specifically, but a tub of some sort 295 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.279 that is, quote a bathtub she was found in. 296 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.919 Would that work? I don't think that would work. What 297 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:53.200 do you mean, Like, it wouldn't conceal odor and like 298 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:55.120 the body, I. 299 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.159 Imagine it would be supposing it would conceal a fair 300 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.919 bit of odoor. Yeah, I imagine I could be wrong. 301 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:01.919 Wow. 302 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.080 I'm not saying it would be perfect, but I imagine it 303 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:04.960 would mask quite. 304 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.600 A bit interest better than having that's brutal, a. 305 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:12.360 Decomposing body just laying in your bathroom, I. 306 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:14.679 Guess, but like I mean, I'm just visualizing to like 307 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:18.279 someone else's balcony is like right beside, right, Yeah, you know. 308 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.480 So No, I don't think it was something that he 309 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:24.879 would have gotten away with for long term, but at 310 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.120 least it was a temporary solution that he was looking at. 311 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:31.320 What he planned on doing after that, who knows. 312 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:32.320 Wow. 313 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.919 So, once her remains were uncovered, Lindsay's body showed signs 314 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:38.759 of a brutal assault that had occurred the night before. 315 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:42.120 She had been bound and gagged, and there were clear 316 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:46.759 indications of physical trauma. The forensic examination later revealed that 317 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:51.919 she had been violently sexually assaulted and beaten before finally 318 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:53.679 being strangled to death. 319 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:56.919 What an absolute piece of shit. 320 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:02.320 I agree. Holy And a media and intense investigation, of 321 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:05.559 course took place, and the police launched a massive man 322 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:09.319 hunt for Tetsuya Ichihashi, and this would become a two 323 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.720 and a half year long manhunt, one of the most 324 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:17.680 intense and high profile ones in Japanese history. 325 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.160 He literally got what two and a half years. 326 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.559 He was on the run, maybe and a half two. 327 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:30.960 Weeks or something. Two days. Nope, gosh, okay, I'm actually okay, 328 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.839 that's like making me angry here, I'm a little a 329 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:35.880 little angry about this. 330 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.599 Well, in the intro, what did I say in the intro? Exactly? 331 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:39.799 I don't know. I can't remember. 332 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:43.079 Back to then, the following manhunt would keep the perpetrator 333 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:47.200 running for years and seeking out extreme measures to hide 334 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:48.200 their identity. 335 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:50.960 Okay, well, I think that in the intro you lost 336 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.400 me when you said something about someone buried in a bathtub. 337 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:56.799 After that I heard nothing. 338 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.319 Okay, fair enough, fair enough. 339 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.799 But yeah, honestly, that's because like they had him. They 340 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.599 had him, they did so that's why that's just like 341 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:06.880 such a pissof. 342 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:10.920 But the thing is, they weren't suspecting anything at that time. 343 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:12.440 It was like, hey, when was the last time have 344 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:13.160 you seen lindsay? 345 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:15.920 Oh? Okay, So if he had like just played it 346 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.000 cool or whatever, they may not have even gone and 347 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:19.279 searched his apartment. 348 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:22.240 At They might not have. I mean, honestly, I don't 349 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:23.960 think they would have been able to search his apartments. 350 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.319 They wouldn't have had a warrant. Yeah, I mean, I 351 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:28.960 don't know what it's with laws are specifically in Japan, 352 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:30.759 but I'm assuming it's going to be something along those 353 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.839 similar lines, because you know, people have rights. Yeah, so 354 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:35.680 maybe he was like, oh no, like she left at 355 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:39.079 this time or something. Maybe that would have been the case, 356 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.400 but I don't know. If that would have been too 357 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:44.319 long that that occurred, he wouldn't have gotten away with 358 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:46.640 it still, right, it was probably turned around and come 359 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:48.640 back in another day or two with a search warrant. 360 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:49.279 Who knows what. 361 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:50.559 Right, Yeah, but. 362 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:57.359 Yeah. Now. The case quickly gained widespread media attention in 363 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.519 Japan and internationally as well, partly do to the brutal 364 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.000 nature of the crime and Lindsay's status as a foreigner 365 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:09.119 living in Japan. The immediate search by police was extensive, 366 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:13.079 focusing on locations where Tatsuya was known to frequent. The 367 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:17.200 police received numerous tips from the public, but many of 368 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:21.160 these leads turned out to be false or inconclusive. I 369 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:25.000 do like to like, we've covered cases before where we 370 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.440 have a lot of tips coming from the public, some 371 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:32.440 of them inconclusive or false or whatever. I don't care 372 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.000 if false tips are coming in. I mean that sucks, 373 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.880 it kind of bottles it up. But I don't think 374 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:40.640 majority of them are probably not real false tips. It's like, 375 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.240 oh I think that's him. Oh no, it's a mistaken 376 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:43.599 sort of thing. 377 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:45.599 Yeah, they could legitimately think that's them. 378 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:47.920 But I love the effort that comes in from the 379 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.720 public when the police received numerous tips, Like, fucking love 380 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:52.279 it so much. 381 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:54.920 Well, yeah, there's been like lots of cases, and you 382 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:56.920 know it solves them. 383 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.640 Yeah it does. It could be that key thing that 384 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:06.079 solves the case. And spoiler alert, the public kind of 385 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:12.039 did solve this, Okay, So yeah, no, it's tips coming 386 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:14.640 in and all that sort of thing was a massive 387 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:17.839 role in this case. There's so many pieces to cases, 388 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.480 of course, but this one, it's like every piece played 389 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:27.319 such a big role, and without the effort on every portion, 390 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:33.400 it would not have happened. But we'll touch on that still. Now. 391 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.000 The intense media coverage of the case help keep it 392 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:39.160 in the public eye, leading to a steady stream of information, 393 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.680 but also making it difficult to discern these sort of things. 394 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:43.880 I just kind of said that anyway, Sorry, that's what 395 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:44.440 I happened. 396 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:45.559 Now. 397 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.640 Tatsuoa's life on the run was consistently a series of 398 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:54.279 calculated moves designed to avoid detection at all costs. In 399 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:57.839 the months following his escape, he moved frequently, staying in cheap, 400 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:01.759 transient accommodations and avoiding any place where he might attract 401 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:06.480