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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on seven thirty here if if you're gout

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<v Speaker 1>care see the talk station. I'm a very happy Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>to you. One hour from now. Judge Ennita Paula Tana

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<v Speaker 1>back from vacation, preceded by Judge Betsy Sunneman from Domestic

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<v Speaker 1>Relations Court, saying curfews don't work. In the meantime, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that time a week we get to talk with Americans

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<v Speaker 1>for Prosperities. Donovan and Neil Donovan, welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>program Sir. It's always good hearing from you, Brian. Always

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure to be with you on Wednesday morning. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know since Columbus they're on recess. You guys at

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<v Speaker 1>AFP aren't doing anything. You kick your feet up and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do Jack squat when they're on vacation, do you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's when there's not what it's not policy

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<v Speaker 3>season or politics season. We're just we're just chilling on

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<v Speaker 3>the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess no rest for the weary at AFP.

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<v Speaker 2>They're hit.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to rally rally every one of my listening

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<v Speaker 1>audience and everybody across the great State of Ohio to

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<v Speaker 1>get engaged even by doing just something small because going

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<v Speaker 1>back to my analogy for my con law professor, a

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<v Speaker 1>fleet urinating in the Pacific, in terms of increasing the volume,

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<v Speaker 1>every little bit counts. So baby steps are very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Even small ones can go a long way in large volumes.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and so yeah, we're you know, Cap Square and

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<v Speaker 3>Capitol Hill may not be in action right now, you

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<v Speaker 3>know there's not.

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<v Speaker 2>An impending state or federal election.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what fuels our operation, that makes us

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<v Speaker 3>so impactful in those moments is our grassroots army. The

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<v Speaker 3>folks like your listeners, Brian, who you know come alongside us,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's sending an email to their state representative to

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<v Speaker 3>override Governor Dewines Vetos, to members who knocked doors with

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<v Speaker 3>us in support of a candidate to help flip the

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<v Speaker 3>balance of power in Washington. It's the small steps each

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<v Speaker 3>one of those folks takes, and it's why we've launched

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<v Speaker 3>this one Small Step campaign. I've been on talking about

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<v Speaker 3>it before, but we're going to beat this drum all

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<v Speaker 3>the way through next year year like we always do,

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<v Speaker 3>because we've got a really important date coming up. It's

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<v Speaker 3>America's twohunter and fiftieth birthday next year, and we're capitalizing

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<v Speaker 3>on that to help drive a renewed sense of patriotism

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<v Speaker 3>and drive folks back and inspire them to take action,

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<v Speaker 3>just like our founding fathers did when they started this

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<v Speaker 3>great nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and there are a variety of ways people can

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<v Speaker 1>do that you mentioned probably one of the easiest ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take a few moments of time and contact your

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<v Speaker 1>elected officials, your representatives, your senators, even you want to

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<v Speaker 1>send the governor an email knock yourself out. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>an easy way to do it. And I've had lots

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<v Speaker 1>of conversation with you, and a lot of conversations with politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>They really don't get that much by way of communications

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<v Speaker 1>from their constituents. I mean, you know, if they get

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen emails on one subject that's like a banner day

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<v Speaker 1>or something, they're like, oh my god, what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>out there that I got so much? And you're thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second. You represent thousands and thousands of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and a big day for you is getting a week

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Is getting like fifteen people reaching out on

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<v Speaker 1>one issue that I mean that that speaks volumes to

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity for my listening audience to help out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's so true. I mean we had so we've

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<v Speaker 3>had so many members throughout this session. When we put

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<v Speaker 3>an action alert out on property text issue, or on

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<v Speaker 3>rains regulatory issue, or on moving on hot to a

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<v Speaker 3>flat tax. So many members will tell us when we're

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<v Speaker 3>when we're talking to them, or we'll bring activists to

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<v Speaker 3>the Statehouse and we'll say, actually, you know, I got

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<v Speaker 3>emails from AFP and activists like you. It's good to

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<v Speaker 3>actually see some of you go in person to know

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just Donovan sending me a lot of emails

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<v Speaker 3>right right, shakingly, that stuff has a real impact. And

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<v Speaker 3>because yeah, you know they can they know right, their

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<v Speaker 3>staff read those Their staff either send them onto the

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<v Speaker 3>members or summarize it for the members, depending on sort

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<v Speaker 3>of how that office operates. Either way, when they get

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of emails on a particular piece of legislation

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<v Speaker 3>or on a topic, yeah, they that sends up a signal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's a radar for them.

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<v Speaker 3>And because it's not just them receipt You're you're representative

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<v Speaker 3>seeing it, it's reper senatives across the state receiving it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they talk, right, and then they realize, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that people care about. We got to

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<v Speaker 3>do something here. It's powerful stuff, Brian, and it's just again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's simple, small steps that have different levels of impact

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<v Speaker 3>that ultimately result in substantial change. Ideally, if you're working

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<v Speaker 3>with us towards freedom and liberty for the better of

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and Americans for Prosperity has the tools to help

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<v Speaker 1>people accomplish these quote unquote small steps. Because I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at your site right now, Americans for Prosperity dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a click that you can link onto the small

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<v Speaker 1>Step campaign and ask you the question, how would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to get involved? I'd like to, And then there

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<v Speaker 1>here's some options for you to help to put together

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<v Speaker 1>community events, build strong community coalition groups, speak out on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, hold politicians accountable, contact my representative. We already

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<v Speaker 1>address that. Talk to voters at the doors, call voters

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<v Speaker 1>about issues and candidates. I'd like to meet with the

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<v Speaker 1>team member of AFP if you want to do one

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<v Speaker 1>of these, Like I'd love to put together a community events.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have I don't know where to even think

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<v Speaker 1>about starting to do that. You guys will help.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that's one of the things I always, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to the local groups, especially this time of

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<v Speaker 3>year where they're working to fight local issues or campaigns,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll say, well, you know, before you even get

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<v Speaker 3>before AFP as an organization even puts its label on

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<v Speaker 3>it or starts getting involved, how about we just grab

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<v Speaker 3>some coffee, some pastries, and let's just talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About what your plan is.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got full time staff, right, We're blessed to be

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<v Speaker 3>staffed with some of Ohio's best community organizers, political operatives,

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<v Speaker 3>conservative leaders who are here to help folks who are

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<v Speaker 3>working on the issues that they care about. Right, Folks

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<v Speaker 3>like Adam Boying and Southwest Ohio is consistently meeting with

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<v Speaker 3>different groups.

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<v Speaker 2>George brunhaman, I know a good friend of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we sit down with these groups and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these a lot of the biggest impact happens

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<v Speaker 3>from these local leaders who see a problem in their community.

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<v Speaker 3>They want us, they want to tackle them and solve it,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they come together to get it done. Our

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<v Speaker 3>team stands are ready to help provide that that mentorship,

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<v Speaker 3>that support so that you, as a listener of the

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<v Speaker 3>Ran Thomas show wright, can go out and be that

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<v Speaker 3>leader be that change maker in your community so that

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<v Speaker 3>we can again move this state to a more bolder,

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<v Speaker 3>better Buckeye state like we talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't want to be a community leader

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<v Speaker 1>and an outspoken advocate for it, there's an easy solution

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<v Speaker 1>there for a baby step. Just contact your elected official

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<v Speaker 1>and let your voice be known. This property tax thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a post show interview with Bill sidyesterday, who's

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<v Speaker 1>on that committee to analyze, you know, the issues, the

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<v Speaker 1>Governor's Committee on Property Tax. So we'll air that one

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<v Speaker 1>maybe tomorrow. I'm not quite sure, but I brought up

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<v Speaker 1>the issue. You know, we have this repeal property tax

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio ballot initiative that may change the constitution of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and that won't be on the ballot

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<v Speaker 1>until next year, looks like. But you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure where AFP is on that conceptually. But if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't act, and if they don't get something substantive done

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<v Speaker 1>by way of property tax relief legislative wise, or however

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<v Speaker 1>they accomplish it, that's going to be a real train

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<v Speaker 1>wreck if we all vote to get rid of property taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's interesting as a concept to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>it but I think his figure was, well, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to come up with twenty three billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in lost property tax revenue to fund all the schools

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<v Speaker 1>and all these things that benefit from property tax. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the sales tax during the conversation. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have to raise a sales tax to like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>cents on the dollar to make up for the lost volume.

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<v Speaker 1>So that doesn't seem like an attainable solution, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a real problem if they don't get

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<v Speaker 1>something right accomplished and we end up eliminating it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be chaotic.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think that's right, and that's that's a very

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<v Speaker 3>real threat that's sort of damnically hanging over yeah State

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<v Speaker 3>of Ohio's head right now. But you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's also important to point out the legislature has been

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<v Speaker 3>doing a lot of this work. Yeah, there are a

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<v Speaker 3>number of legislative vehicles that have been introduced that would

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<v Speaker 3>actually both provide immediate relief and structural reform. They'll keep

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<v Speaker 3>this problem from reoccurring. Unfortunately, though, you know, I'll point

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<v Speaker 3>a finger blame here. It's the local political subdivision lobbyists,

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<v Speaker 3>all of the school board officials, teachers, unions, township officials,

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<v Speaker 3>village all of these folks. Right, We've got thirty nine

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<v Speaker 3>hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio, each one

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<v Speaker 3>of those represented by a board of elected officials, paid

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<v Speaker 3>elected officials ranging from three to seven members, not to

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<v Speaker 3>mention the administrators and all of the bureaucrats that exist

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<v Speaker 3>within those thirty nine hundred political subdivisions across.

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<v Speaker 2>The state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are literally tens of thousands of paid taxpayer, paid

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<v Speaker 3>lobbyists who win your state representatives, your state senators go

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<v Speaker 3>to do their work. Those lobbyists descend upon Columbus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and put that pressure on it, say we'd want the

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<v Speaker 3>status quo. Do not make change, do not harm us,

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<v Speaker 3>do not give the taxpayers and voters an edge when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to deciding if.

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<v Speaker 2>Their taxes are going to go up or not.

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<v Speaker 3>We liked unvoted tax increases on our citizens because we

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<v Speaker 3>need that, Brian, that's the problem. And the legal nature

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<v Speaker 3>is acting and has been courageous and doing work. And

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<v Speaker 3>when they get a couple of things into the state

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<v Speaker 3>budget and the governor vetos them, puts a working group together.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if we got to get something done. We've set

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<v Speaker 2>that back at best three months from reform happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you can't both say you you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>of these folks like Bill Sites can't both say hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got this threat and pending, we got to act

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<v Speaker 3>and then also be cool with the actions the governor

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<v Speaker 3>has taken to veto and stop any reform from happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So the problem in.

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio, in simple terms, is we have too dang much

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<v Speaker 3>local government. Local accessible government is good, but we have

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<v Speaker 3>thirty nine hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the fifth most in the nation. And that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we want to really fix the system, we

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<v Speaker 1>You can help out. Every little bit counts. Americans for

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<v Speaker 1>Prosperity dot org. Start there, click on the link and

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<v Speaker 1>you will find yourself on the right page to help

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference. AFP is there to help you accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>the goal. And as a team, a large team of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of squeaky wheels, maybe we can get some

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<v Speaker 1>effective work done here in the state for the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of all of us. Donovan and Neil Americans for prosperity.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the hard work and you're at it even

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<v Speaker 1>when Columbus is on vacation. Hey man, that's right. Always

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to having you on the program. So keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the wonderful work. And I again will encourage my

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<v Speaker 1>any way they can always appreciate. Thanks, Brian, take care

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