Speaker 1: Coming up on seven thirty here if if you're gout
Speaker 1: care see the talk station. I'm a very happy Wednesday
Speaker 1: to you. One hour from now. Judge Ennita Paula Tana
Speaker 1: back from vacation, preceded by Judge Betsy Sunneman from Domestic
Speaker 1: Relations Court, saying curfews don't work. In the meantime, it's
Speaker 1: that time a week we get to talk with Americans
Speaker 1: for Prosperities. Donovan and Neil Donovan, welcome back to the
Speaker 1: program Sir. It's always good hearing from you, Brian. Always
Speaker 1: a pleasure to be with you on Wednesday morning. And
Speaker 1: I know since Columbus they're on recess. You guys at
Speaker 1: AFP aren't doing anything. You kick your feet up and
Speaker 1: you don't do Jack squat when they're on vacation, do you.
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 3: You know, it's when there's not what it's not policy
Speaker 3: season or politics season. We're just we're just chilling on
Speaker 3: the beach.
Speaker 1: And I guess no rest for the weary at AFP.
Speaker 2: They're hit.
Speaker 1: They're trying to rally rally every one of my listening
Speaker 1: audience and everybody across the great State of Ohio to
Speaker 1: get engaged even by doing just something small because going
Speaker 1: back to my analogy for my con law professor, a
Speaker 1: fleet urinating in the Pacific, in terms of increasing the volume,
Speaker 1: every little bit counts. So baby steps are very important.
Speaker 1: Even small ones can go a long way in large volumes.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so yeah, we're you know, Cap Square and
Speaker 3: Capitol Hill may not be in action right now, you
Speaker 3: know there's not.
Speaker 2: An impending state or federal election.
Speaker 3: But you know what fuels our operation, that makes us
Speaker 3: so impactful in those moments is our grassroots army. The
Speaker 3: folks like your listeners, Brian, who you know come alongside us,
Speaker 3: whether it's sending an email to their state representative to
Speaker 3: override Governor Dewines Vetos, to members who knocked doors with
Speaker 3: us in support of a candidate to help flip the
Speaker 3: balance of power in Washington. It's the small steps each
Speaker 3: one of those folks takes, and it's why we've launched
Speaker 3: this one Small Step campaign. I've been on talking about
Speaker 3: it before, but we're going to beat this drum all
Speaker 3: the way through next year year like we always do,
Speaker 3: because we've got a really important date coming up. It's
Speaker 3: America's twohunter and fiftieth birthday next year, and we're capitalizing
Speaker 3: on that to help drive a renewed sense of patriotism
Speaker 3: and drive folks back and inspire them to take action,
Speaker 3: just like our founding fathers did when they started this
Speaker 3: great nation.
Speaker 1: Well, and there are a variety of ways people can
Speaker 1: do that you mentioned probably one of the easiest ones.
Speaker 1: Just take a few moments of time and contact your
Speaker 1: elected officials, your representatives, your senators, even you want to
Speaker 1: send the governor an email knock yourself out. But it's
Speaker 1: an easy way to do it. And I've had lots
Speaker 1: of conversation with you, and a lot of conversations with politicians.
Speaker 1: They really don't get that much by way of communications
Speaker 1: from their constituents. I mean, you know, if they get
Speaker 1: fifteen emails on one subject that's like a banner day
Speaker 1: or something, they're like, oh my god, what's going on
Speaker 1: out there that I got so much? And you're thinking, like,
Speaker 1: wait a second. You represent thousands and thousands of people,
Speaker 1: and a big day for you is getting a week
Speaker 1: for you? Is getting like fifteen people reaching out on
Speaker 1: one issue that I mean that that speaks volumes to
Speaker 1: the opportunity for my listening audience to help out.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so true. I mean we had so we've
Speaker 3: had so many members throughout this session. When we put
Speaker 3: an action alert out on property text issue, or on
Speaker 3: rains regulatory issue, or on moving on hot to a
Speaker 3: flat tax. So many members will tell us when we're
Speaker 3: when we're talking to them, or we'll bring activists to
Speaker 3: the Statehouse and we'll say, actually, you know, I got
Speaker 3: emails from AFP and activists like you. It's good to
Speaker 3: actually see some of you go in person to know
Speaker 3: it's not just Donovan sending me a lot of emails
Speaker 3: right right, shakingly, that stuff has a real impact. And
Speaker 3: because yeah, you know they can they know right, their
Speaker 3: staff read those Their staff either send them onto the
Speaker 3: members or summarize it for the members, depending on sort
Speaker 3: of how that office operates. Either way, when they get
Speaker 3: a lot of emails on a particular piece of legislation
Speaker 3: or on a topic, yeah, they that sends up a signal.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a radar for them.
Speaker 3: And because it's not just them receipt You're you're representative
Speaker 3: seeing it, it's reper senatives across the state receiving it.
Speaker 3: And so they talk, right, and then they realize, hey,
Speaker 3: this is something that people care about. We got to
Speaker 3: do something here. It's powerful stuff, Brian, and it's just again,
Speaker 3: it's simple, small steps that have different levels of impact
Speaker 3: that ultimately result in substantial change. Ideally, if you're working
Speaker 3: with us towards freedom and liberty for the better of
Speaker 3: the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Well and Americans for Prosperity has the tools to help
Speaker 1: people accomplish these quote unquote small steps. Because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at your site right now, Americans for Prosperity dot org.
Speaker 1: There's a click that you can link onto the small
Speaker 1: Step campaign and ask you the question, how would you
Speaker 1: like to get involved? I'd like to, And then there
Speaker 1: here's some options for you to help to put together
Speaker 1: community events, build strong community coalition groups, speak out on
Speaker 1: social media, hold politicians accountable, contact my representative. We already
Speaker 1: address that. Talk to voters at the doors, call voters
Speaker 1: about issues and candidates. I'd like to meet with the
Speaker 1: team member of AFP if you want to do one
Speaker 1: of these, Like I'd love to put together a community events.
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't know where to even think
Speaker 1: about starting to do that. You guys will help.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's one of the things I always, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll talk to the local groups, especially this time of
Speaker 3: year where they're working to fight local issues or campaigns,
Speaker 3: and I'll say, well, you know, before you even get
Speaker 3: before AFP as an organization even puts its label on
Speaker 3: it or starts getting involved, how about we just grab
Speaker 3: some coffee, some pastries, and let's just talk.
Speaker 2: About what your plan is.
Speaker 3: We've got full time staff, right, We're blessed to be
Speaker 3: staffed with some of Ohio's best community organizers, political operatives,
Speaker 3: conservative leaders who are here to help folks who are
Speaker 3: working on the issues that they care about. Right, Folks
Speaker 3: like Adam Boying and Southwest Ohio is consistently meeting with
Speaker 3: different groups.
Speaker 2: George brunhaman, I know a good friend of the show.
Speaker 3: You know, we sit down with these groups and a
Speaker 3: lot of these a lot of the biggest impact happens
Speaker 3: from these local leaders who see a problem in their community.
Speaker 3: They want us, they want to tackle them and solve it,
Speaker 3: and so they come together to get it done. Our
Speaker 3: team stands are ready to help provide that that mentorship,
Speaker 3: that support so that you, as a listener of the
Speaker 3: Ran Thomas show wright, can go out and be that
Speaker 3: leader be that change maker in your community so that
Speaker 3: we can again move this state to a more bolder,
Speaker 3: better Buckeye state like we talk about.
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to be a community leader
Speaker 1: and an outspoken advocate for it, there's an easy solution
Speaker 1: there for a baby step. Just contact your elected official
Speaker 1: and let your voice be known. This property tax thing,
Speaker 1: I had a post show interview with Bill sidyesterday, who's
Speaker 1: on that committee to analyze, you know, the issues, the
Speaker 1: Governor's Committee on Property Tax. So we'll air that one
Speaker 1: maybe tomorrow. I'm not quite sure, but I brought up
Speaker 1: the issue. You know, we have this repeal property tax
Speaker 1: in Ohio ballot initiative that may change the constitution of
Speaker 1: the United States, and that won't be on the ballot
Speaker 1: until next year, looks like. But you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where AFP is on that conceptually. But if they
Speaker 1: don't act, and if they don't get something substantive done
Speaker 1: by way of property tax relief legislative wise, or however
Speaker 1: they accomplish it, that's going to be a real train
Speaker 1: wreck if we all vote to get rid of property taxes.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's interesting as a concept to discuss
Speaker 1: it but I think his figure was, well, we're going
Speaker 1: to have to come up with twenty three billion dollars
Speaker 1: in lost property tax revenue to fund all the schools
Speaker 1: and all these things that benefit from property tax. And
Speaker 1: I mentioned the sales tax during the conversation. He said,
Speaker 1: we'd have to raise a sales tax to like twenty
Speaker 1: cents on the dollar to make up for the lost volume.
Speaker 1: So that doesn't seem like an attainable solution, but it's
Speaker 1: going to be a real problem if they don't get
Speaker 1: something right accomplished and we end up eliminating it, it's
Speaker 1: going to be chaotic.
Speaker 3: No, I think that's right, and that's that's a very
Speaker 3: real threat that's sort of damnically hanging over yeah State
Speaker 3: of Ohio's head right now. But you know, I think
Speaker 3: it's also important to point out the legislature has been
Speaker 3: doing a lot of this work. Yeah, there are a
Speaker 3: number of legislative vehicles that have been introduced that would
Speaker 3: actually both provide immediate relief and structural reform. They'll keep
Speaker 3: this problem from reoccurring. Unfortunately, though, you know, I'll point
Speaker 3: a finger blame here. It's the local political subdivision lobbyists,
Speaker 3: all of the school board officials, teachers, unions, township officials,
Speaker 3: village all of these folks. Right, We've got thirty nine
Speaker 3: hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio, each one
Speaker 3: of those represented by a board of elected officials, paid
Speaker 3: elected officials ranging from three to seven members, not to
Speaker 3: mention the administrators and all of the bureaucrats that exist
Speaker 3: within those thirty nine hundred political subdivisions across.
Speaker 2: The state of Ohio.
Speaker 3: Those are literally tens of thousands of paid taxpayer, paid
Speaker 3: lobbyists who win your state representatives, your state senators go
Speaker 3: to do their work. Those lobbyists descend upon Columbus. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and put that pressure on it, say we'd want the
Speaker 3: status quo. Do not make change, do not harm us,
Speaker 3: do not give the taxpayers and voters an edge when
Speaker 3: it comes to deciding if.
Speaker 2: Their taxes are going to go up or not.
Speaker 3: We liked unvoted tax increases on our citizens because we
Speaker 3: need that, Brian, that's the problem. And the legal nature
Speaker 3: is acting and has been courageous and doing work. And
Speaker 3: when they get a couple of things into the state
Speaker 3: budget and the governor vetos them, puts a working group together.
Speaker 2: Well, if we got to get something done. We've set
Speaker 2: that back at best three months from reform happening.
Speaker 3: And so you can't both say you you know, some
Speaker 3: of these folks like Bill Sites can't both say hey,
Speaker 3: we've got this threat and pending, we got to act
Speaker 3: and then also be cool with the actions the governor
Speaker 3: has taken to veto and stop any reform from happening.
Speaker 2: So the problem in.
Speaker 3: Ohio, in simple terms, is we have too dang much
Speaker 3: local government. Local accessible government is good, but we have
Speaker 3: thirty nine hundred political subdivisions in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2: It's the fifth most in the nation. And that's the problem.
Speaker 3: And if we want to really fix the system, we
Speaker 3: got to kind of address that glaring issue somewhere along
Speaker 3: the line.
Speaker 1: You can help out. Every little bit counts. Americans for
Speaker 1: Prosperity dot org. Start there, click on the link and
Speaker 1: you will find yourself on the right page to help
Speaker 1: make a difference. AFP is there to help you accomplish
Speaker 1: the goal. And as a team, a large team of
Speaker 1: a lot of squeaky wheels, maybe we can get some
Speaker 1: effective work done here in the state for the benefit
Speaker 1: of all of us. Donovan and Neil Americans for prosperity.
Speaker 1: Keep up the hard work and you're at it even
Speaker 1: when Columbus is on vacation. Hey man, that's right. Always
Speaker 1: looking forward to having you on the program. So keep
Speaker 1: up the wonderful work. And I again will encourage my
Speaker 1: listeners to reach out to you and help out in
Speaker 1: any way they can always appreciate. Thanks, Brian, take care
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