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<v Speaker 2>It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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<v Speaker 6>Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. We have

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<v Speaker 6>an interesting topic that I am not even going to

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<v Speaker 6>attempt to explain. I'm gonna leave that to the Crambone

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<v Speaker 6>who came up with it. But before, yep, we jumped

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<v Speaker 6>in confused. Uh yeah, yep, that's why I'm not touching it.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna let the expert explain it. But before we

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<v Speaker 6>jump in, allow me to introduce all the Crambones joining

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<v Speaker 6>us here tonight. First and foremost, from the Richter Observatory.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think it's rude to get invited to a

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<v Speaker 6>funky little shack and then be expected to bring your

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<v Speaker 6>own jukebox? Money?

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<v Speaker 5>What's that? What's all that about?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>How you doing? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 6>From paranormally yours. She says that jurabil is actually short

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<v Speaker 6>for jur Williams, Gail newcomers here, Oh my one from

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<v Speaker 6>the silver screen. She saw a Roman centurion walk into

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<v Speaker 6>a bar and order a Martinez. The bartender said, you

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<v Speaker 6>mean a martini, and the centurion said, if I wanted

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<v Speaker 6>a double, I would have asked for it. Mercedes cantas here.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, you're you're on tonight.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>It's all Daniel from here, so enjoy you. Wall last,

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<v Speaker 6>our officially retired teacher. He went to the pharmacy and

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<v Speaker 6>asked for deodorant. The pharmacist asked ball or airsol said neither.

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<v Speaker 6>It's from my armpits. John Kelly is here.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, good evening, everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>Good to be And last, but not least, the host

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<v Speaker 6>of shaving cream. She says, a zombie making a stir

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<v Speaker 6>fry is a dead man walking Barbara Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And while he's busy cooking, I'm running.

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<v Speaker 6>All right. Yeah, you want to get your human flesh

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<v Speaker 6>up to what is it, one hundred and forty degrees

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<v Speaker 6>to make sure you kill the Yeah. Yeah, so I've

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<v Speaker 6>heard all right. So tonight's topic was courtesy of Mercedes,

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm going to turn it over to her to

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<v Speaker 6>explain it, and then she's going to lead us off

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<v Speaker 6>as well, so take it away.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, Brian. This topic was not very hard songs

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<v Speaker 8>with UGH. You know that song.

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<v Speaker 11>You've all heard that, many of these songs. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 11>talk about what I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Going to talk about the history of UGH.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know there was a history, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>It wasn't like the first word ever, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>The first song word.

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<v Speaker 6>Nowadays, I think the first word is can I speak

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<v Speaker 6>with your manager? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>True?

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<v Speaker 11>So the UH has been a very long has a

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<v Speaker 11>very long history. According to Masterclass, that rhythmic guttural ugh

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<v Speaker 11>is one of the most powerful non lexical vocalizations in

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<v Speaker 11>modern music history. Often referred to by musicians and musicologists

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<v Speaker 11>as a vocal grunt, rock grunt, or rhythmic exclamation, it

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<v Speaker 11>serves multiple artistic and structural purposes across genres.

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<v Speaker 8>The ugh so am I doing it right?

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<v Speaker 11>Is deeply rooted in gospel blues and early rhythm and blues.

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<v Speaker 11>It transitioned from a raw, spontaneous burst of emotion into

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<v Speaker 11>a highly calculated musical tool. In traditional Western and South

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<v Speaker 11>African music, singing has never been limited to clean or

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<v Speaker 11>pretty melodies. When Africans were enslaved and brought to the

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<v Speaker 11>American South. These vocal traditions adapted to survival.

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<v Speaker 8>The music.

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<v Speaker 11>The musical UGH, I keep doing it differently was born

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<v Speaker 11>directly out of backbreaking manual labor. As work songs evolved

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<v Speaker 11>into the blues, early recording artists brought the raw physical

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<v Speaker 11>sounds of the field into commercial music. Early Delta blues

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<v Speaker 11>players like Charlie Patten or Blind Willie Johnson would pepper

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<v Speaker 11>their lyrics with gravelly grunts and uugh sounds to simulate

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<v Speaker 11>the physical strain of their lyrics. You can hear in

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<v Speaker 11>Screaming Jay Hawk and songs and leader James Brown changed

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<v Speaker 11>music history by turning the grunt into a formal arrangement.

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<v Speaker 11>James Brown weaponized to the ugh or ugh right on

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<v Speaker 11>the downbeat or the backbeat, replacing traditional lyrics with pure

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<v Speaker 11>rhythmic punctuation. From there, it was picked up another genres

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<v Speaker 11>of music, pop with Michael Jackson, who was also heavily

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<v Speaker 11>influenced by James Brown, heavy rock like Metallica and ACDC,

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<v Speaker 11>and hip hop with rapper Master P who I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's the history of it all right, Pretty crazy, huh.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot to it.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it goes way, way, way way back.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember my college experience. I took a public speaking course,

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<v Speaker 6>one of the best classes I ever took, and doctor

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<v Speaker 6>Pete Baker was the professor. He had an UH chart,

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<v Speaker 6>So anytime you got up there you said uh so uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody's job was to market it on the piece of

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<v Speaker 6>tag poster board. So and boy, you learn how to

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<v Speaker 6>not say uhs and ums and the fillers, the brain fillers,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. Yeah, long story, yeah, long story. Short. Silence

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<v Speaker 6>is fine. It lets people have time to absorb what

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<v Speaker 6>you're saying. But the uzz and the ums take you

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<v Speaker 6>out of the moment. And yeah, when somebody's there tallying

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<v Speaker 6>up the number of times you say it, you stopped

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<v Speaker 6>pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it also gives you a moment to think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>it does. So it's it's good all around.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's too late now. But if somebody had

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<v Speaker 5>had the foresight to actually copyright the uh or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, grunt, they would be making millions, because absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>the royalties would just be rolling in. But I guess

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's it's too late now.

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<v Speaker 6>It is, well, you know, the most of the bag

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<v Speaker 6>the most famous annoyed grunt anybody is you dope? From

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<v Speaker 6>The Simpsons. Sim Homer was written in early scripts as

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<v Speaker 6>annoyed grunt and Dan Castellanetta came up with dope, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's now in the dictionary.

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<v Speaker 5>In the dictionary, everyone knew, you know, they knew it.

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<v Speaker 5>They knew it instinctively, that that was what it meant,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, yeah, brilliant.

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<v Speaker 6>Imagine inventing a word.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>That's well, I've created.

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<v Speaker 14>A few, you know, we all, yeah, we've all uttered

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<v Speaker 14>a few in our day.

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<v Speaker 6>I meant more academically speaking, but yes, we've all had

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<v Speaker 6>our bourbon related vocab Larry, Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Creative cursing is you know? Oh yeah, I excelled in that.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the best class I had. Creative cursing. Nice, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>and so and so immediately got sent to the principal's office.

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<v Speaker 11>So yeah, so you all heard me do perform the word.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's go around the room and hurt here everybody else's.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do that?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay? Okay, who's first?

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<v Speaker 8>Brian? You're first?

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<v Speaker 6>Can I go with dope? Is that taking already?

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<v Speaker 5>Nice?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Good?

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<v Speaker 8>John?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh okay, different different kind of grunt, Gail, Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>I think you got to take it down a.

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<v Speaker 6>Couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Please. Look you're talking to no, no, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Mean lower, lower and pitch. That is what I meant.

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<v Speaker 1>Guttural.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh, let's got the voice fry to bar.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh you sound pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just I'm just waiting for Brian, when we're

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<v Speaker 1>all done with this, to make like a SoundBite of

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<v Speaker 1>all of us doing this and then change the order

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<v Speaker 1>and keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 8>I just I just know he's going to you mean

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<v Speaker 8>like jingle bears with dogs.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, yes, yes, now you've given him ideas.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm waiting for it, Neil, what do you get?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, that's exasperated.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how I wake up every morning and face the day.

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<v Speaker 5>I see the sun out, the birds are chirping, the clouds,

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<v Speaker 5>the sky is blue.

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<v Speaker 15>It's interesting, though, because not all languages use h for uh.

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<v Speaker 15>Some use actual words, like in Spanish they use esta,

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<v Speaker 15>which is weird because you're going estay. That's complicated for me.

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<v Speaker 15>French is eh, Sheerman is m. Japanese is anno or eto.

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<v Speaker 15>I can't even pronounce the one for Mandarin Chinese. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>some languages use an actual different word.

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<v Speaker 6>But they all have that that space filler. Yeah, let

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<v Speaker 6>your brain catch up to your motor back to do cuche.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hear it like that one. Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I go? Please?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 11>So I'm going to talk about Prince, and oh what

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<v Speaker 11>do you say about Prince? I quickly realized that after

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<v Speaker 11>starting my research that it would be almost impossible to

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<v Speaker 11>include everything about him, his influence, his incredible talent.

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<v Speaker 8>So I will do the best.

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<v Speaker 11>In a short amount of time. I saw Prince multiple

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<v Speaker 11>times and I am so grateful. The first time was

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<v Speaker 11>at the Ritz in New York City, and I just

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<v Speaker 11>read this about the performance. Prince's iconic performance at the

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<v Speaker 11>Ritz in New York City took place on March twenty second,

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<v Speaker 11>eighty one, during his Dirty Mind tour. During his rendition

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<v Speaker 11>of the provocative song Head, Prince sat and writhed on

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<v Speaker 11>a prop bed, pushing the boundaries of stage performance. The

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<v Speaker 11>March twenty second show is a legendary moment in early

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<v Speaker 11>Prince history. The audience for this particular night famously included

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<v Speaker 11>Mick Jagger and Daryl Hall. Jagger was so captivated by

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<v Speaker 11>Prince's raw, funk driven stage presence that he invited Prince

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<v Speaker 11>to open for the Rolling Stones later that year. I

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<v Speaker 11>did not know this at the time, but I was there.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 11>Prince born Prince Rogers Nelson was and that was really

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<v Speaker 11>hurt for me. An American singer, songwriter, musician, dancer, actor,

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<v Speaker 11>and filmmaker. He came from a musical family and he

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<v Speaker 11>wrote his first song, Funk Machine, at the age of seven,

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<v Speaker 11>on his father's piano. He was signed by Warner Brothers

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<v Speaker 11>Records when he was eighteen, and his first LP for You,

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<v Speaker 11>was released in nineteen seventy eight. On the album, Prince wrote,

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<v Speaker 11>produced a range, composed, and played all twenty seven instruments

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<v Speaker 11>so often. Wet, which was the album's lead single, became

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<v Speaker 11>a minor hit on the Billboard Chart one hundred, peaking

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<v Speaker 11>at number ninety two. However, it became a top ten

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<v Speaker 11>hit on the Billboard Hot Soul Single Chart, peaking at

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<v Speaker 11>number twelve. In October nineteen eighty, Prince released the album

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<v Speaker 11>Dirty Mind, which contained sexually explicit material and was described

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<v Speaker 11>by music critic Stephen Thomas Erlewine as a stunning, audacious

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<v Speaker 11>amalgam of funk, new wave, R and B, and pop

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<v Speaker 11>fueled by Grinningly Salacious Sex and the Desire to Shock.

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<v Speaker 11>I was actually given this LP when it was released

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<v Speaker 11>from an old boyfriend, and I honestly didn't quite know

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<v Speaker 11>what to make of it at the time, but I

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<v Speaker 11>do still have it. In October nineteen eighty one, Prince

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<v Speaker 11>released the album Controversy. In nineteen eighty one, Prince formed

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<v Speaker 11>a side project band called The Time. The band released

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<v Speaker 11>four albums between nineteen eighty one and nineteen ninety, with

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<v Speaker 11>with lead vocals by Morris Day. In late nineteen eighty two,

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<v Speaker 11>Prince released a double album nineteen ninety nine with a

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<v Speaker 11>which sold more than four million copies. Princess Little Red

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<v Speaker 11>Corvette was one of the first two videos by black artists,

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<v Speaker 11>along with Michael Jackson's Billy Jean played in heavy rotation

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<v Speaker 11>on MTV Pretty Interesting. Then, of course, there was the

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<v Speaker 11>Purple Rain soundtrack. According to his manager, he was required

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<v Speaker 11>which resulted in the film Purple Rain. The album Purple

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<v Speaker 11>Rain sold more than thirteen million copies in the United

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<v Speaker 11>States and spent twenty twenty four consecutive weeks at number

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<v Speaker 11>Prince an Academy Award for Best Original Song Score and

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<v Speaker 11>grossed more than sixty eight million dollars in the US.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know, obviously that would be a lot more today.

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<v Speaker 11>At one point, Prince simultaneously had the number one album,

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<v Speaker 11>the number one single, and the number one film in

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<v Speaker 11>the United States, being the first person to achieve this.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can, if you.

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<v Speaker 15>Get ahead, that song Purple Rain rabs me every single time.

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<v Speaker 11>I know, I know, I mean, I feel like that

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<v Speaker 11>way about most of his songs. But and if you

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<v Speaker 11>that by now.

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<v Speaker 8>There's so much more.

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<v Speaker 11>But let's get to the song kiss from the album

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<v Speaker 11>Under the Cherry Moon, which was also a film but

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<v Speaker 11>didn't do as well and received a Golden Raspberry Award.

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<v Speaker 11>Although many critics later changed their opinion, Kisses ugh is

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<v Speaker 8>Let's hear it, don't have to.

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<v Speaker 5>Do me, do me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna show you it's so hard. You don't have

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<v Speaker 16>Time and your.

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<v Speaker 2>Kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've got to not talk to the baby. You

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<v Speaker 3>won't I press me. You can't be to sir the MoMA.

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<v Speaker 12>You just leave it.

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<v Speaker 17>Oh luck to we could have good don't have the bach,

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<v Speaker 17>don't have the big mobile the boy want at the time. Yo, jesus,

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<v Speaker 18>Got that gott.

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<v Speaker 19>Women loue mall shut their rule marbles.

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<v Speaker 3>Actual think not a shoe, such a shoe son.

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<v Speaker 2>Make a week soon. The talk.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to watch the speaking in to head

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<v Speaker 4>You don't.

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<v Speaker 3>To me my love be awfoo.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you don't bu kiss.

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<v Speaker 11>So let me just speak to my fellow crambones for

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<v Speaker 11>a moment. Y'all talked through the ear so I heard one.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean we have to hear it again.

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<v Speaker 6>We got the gist of it.

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<v Speaker 11>There's one very specific one that is an absolute. A

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<v Speaker 11>few more facts that you might not know. His underground

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<v Speaker 11>and didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>It's going to give you there's a story, didn't well.

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<v Speaker 6>Number one all right, it was Minneapolis. We were out

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<v Speaker 6>there for farm Eide. It sold out, but it was

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, but.

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<v Speaker 8>That's okay, I would have gone.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>So the underground vault at Paisley Park contains a massive

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<v Speaker 11>collection of music. Archivist knows that there is enough completed

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<v Speaker 11>material to release a new posthumous album every year for

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<v Speaker 11>one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 8>Allow music.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and if you wanted to get anywhere near that,

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<v Speaker 6>it costs even more. Oh, I bet you could knock

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<v Speaker 6>on the front door for a hundred bucks or something

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<v Speaker 6>like that. I don't remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 11>Prince secretly gave away millions of dollars to charities, family

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<v Speaker 11>members of civil rights victims, and community tech initiatives on

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<v Speaker 11>the condition that his name never be revealed. During his lifetime,

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<v Speaker 11>Prince also composed music for other artists, including Manic Monday

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<v Speaker 11>for the Bengals, I Feel for You for Chuka Khan,

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<v Speaker 11>and Nothing Compares to You for Snead O'Connor. He was

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<v Speaker 11>a devowed Jehovah's witness who even went door to door.

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<v Speaker 11>One woman in Minnesota tells of the time that he

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<v Speaker 11>knocked on her door and started in on religion, and

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<v Speaker 11>she said, you know what, into a Jewish household, and

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<v Speaker 11>this is.

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<v Speaker 8>Not something I'm interested in.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, because after his passing in twenty sixteen, there was

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<v Speaker 11>no will found. In addition to his full sister, Prince's

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<v Speaker 11>five half siblings also had a claim to an estate

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<v Speaker 11>totally millions of dollars in cash, as well as real estate, stocks,

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<v Speaker 11>and cars. Within three weeks of his death, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 11>people claimed to be half siblings or descendants.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, that gets an uh from me.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is it too late to your name to

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<v Speaker 11>Prince is often credited as a major influence on modern

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<v Speaker 11>popular music and was the quote unquote, the greatest musician

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<v Speaker 11>of his generation. According to Billboard, Simon Reynolds called him

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<v Speaker 11>a pop polymath, which I had to look up. It

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<v Speaker 11>means he knows. He's got a wide range of knowledge,

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<v Speaker 11>flitting between funk ddelia, fronkadelia, funkadelia, acid rock, deep soul, schmaltz,

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<v Speaker 11>often within the same song. In twenty sixteen, Simon Reynolds

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<v Speaker 11>said Prince's eighties evasion of conventional gender definition speaks to

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<v Speaker 11>us now in this transware moment, but it also harkens

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<v Speaker 11>backwards in time to the original rock and roll in

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<v Speaker 11>racial mixture and sexual blurring. Prince was known for the

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<v Speaker 11>strong female presence in his bands and his support for

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<v Speaker 11>women in the music industry.

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<v Speaker 8>Throughout his career. Slat said that.

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<v Speaker 11>He worked with an astounding range of female stars and

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<v Speaker 11>quote unquote promised a world where men and women looked

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<v Speaker 11>and acted like each other. In twenty twenty three, Billboard

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<v Speaker 11>ranked him at number sixteen on their list of the

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<v Speaker 11>two hundred Greatest Singers of All Time. In nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 11>during negotiations regarding the release of the Gold Experience album,

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<v Speaker 11>there was a legal battle between Warner Brothers and Print

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<v Speaker 11>over the artistic and financial control of his music. He

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<v Speaker 11>appeared in public and explained that he had changed his

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<v Speaker 11>name to an unpronounceable symbol to emancipate himself from his

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<v Speaker 11>contract with Warner Brothers, and that he had done it

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<v Speaker 11>out of frustration because he felt his own name now

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<v Speaker 11>belonged to the company. That symbol has a name, by

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<v Speaker 11>the way, it's the love symbol.

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<v Speaker 8>Number two.

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<v Speaker 11>Since the symbol did not exist on computer keyboards, Warner

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<v Speaker 11>Brothers sent floppy discs to media outlets containing a digital

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<v Speaker 11>rendition of the image. Course, most people referred to him

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<v Speaker 11>as the artist formerly known as Prince. He released thirty

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<v Speaker 11>nine studio albums during his lifetime, alongside numerous live and

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<v Speaker 11>posthumous projects. In nineteen ninety five, the album that he released,

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<v Speaker 11>The Gold Experience, had a song title The Most Beautiful

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<v Speaker 11>Girl in the World, and Prince had a contest where

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<v Speaker 11>girls would send in their pictures to be in the video,

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<v Speaker 11>and we actually interviewed the winner on the silver screen.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember that. Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 8>She told us all about.

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<v Speaker 11>Being terrified, very excited, and Paisley Park.

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<v Speaker 6>All right cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Tom Jones did a version of Kiss that Neil mentioned

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<v Speaker 6>while it was playing, and I think I like the

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<v Speaker 6>Tom Jones version better. Did a weird Aldo a version

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<v Speaker 6>not yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, very good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what would it be called? Hiss?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Kiss did a song was called Prince.

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<v Speaker 6>This I appreciate. All right, thank you, Mercedes, good leader.

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<v Speaker 6>I was good and a challenging topic.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it really was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was it was John, You're.

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<v Speaker 14>Up, okay, I was kind of puzzled by this topic, Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, it kind of forces you to put your

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<v Speaker 14>thinking cap on to kind of figure out. And I

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<v Speaker 14>had had been off the show for a few weeks,

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<v Speaker 14>so I was kind of thrown this and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 14>quite sure of the origin of the context, and I

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<v Speaker 14>was like, where the heck can I go with this?

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<v Speaker 14>So I what I found for Better or Worse was

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<v Speaker 14>a song from nineteen sixty four from a garage rock

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<v Speaker 14>band called The Novas. Now, Neil, I must say that

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<v Speaker 14>the song that I chose for tonight was also recorded

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<v Speaker 14>by the Ramones. However, this is not the Ramones version,

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<v Speaker 14>So this is the song of the Crusher. It was

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<v Speaker 14>recorded by the garage rock band the Novas from Dallas

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<v Speaker 14>Fort Worth. They were only they were only around from

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<v Speaker 14>nineteen sixty three to nineteen sixty eight and the only

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<v Speaker 14>I believe, recorded seven or eight songs. They were hugely

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<v Speaker 14>popular in the North Texas area, all high school kids

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<v Speaker 14>and whatnot, and they disbanded and when they went to

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<v Speaker 14>college and that was that. So it'll be really interesting

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<v Speaker 14>to see if these guys had stuck around together.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 14>A couple of their members were forcibly pulled from the

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<v Speaker 14>band because their parents were upset with them.

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<v Speaker 6>Go figure, and.

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<v Speaker 9>But yes, yes, so.

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<v Speaker 10>Could you imagine doing that in the seventies. But you

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<v Speaker 10>know it's the song of the.

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<v Speaker 14>Crusher was about a boxer and let me see if

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<v Speaker 14>I get his name straight.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a.

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<v Speaker 11>Excuse me, John, did you say they released six or

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<v Speaker 11>seven songs or six or seven albums?

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<v Speaker 14>Six or seven songs? I believe, Oh wow, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 14>was a garage rock band. I wanted to go a

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<v Speaker 14>little obscure for my selection, so rather than go with

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<v Speaker 14>something like the Ramones or something like that, So the

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<v Speaker 14>song itself was where I Gotta find it here.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't think this was obscure to me, though, do you?

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<v Speaker 14>No, not in the least, Not in the least, Neil,

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<v Speaker 14>Are you kidding me? It just saying, oh please, nothing

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<v Speaker 14>is obscure to you, Neil. I could go back to

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<v Speaker 14>Roman times and I am sure you would be familiar

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<v Speaker 14>with the track.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, let me just say.

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<v Speaker 14>Anyway, it's the original track with a tongue in chic

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<v Speaker 14>owed to a nineteen sixties professional wrestler, Reginald the Crusher Thesowski.

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<v Speaker 14>So it features a raunchy over the top vocal delivery

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<v Speaker 14>imitating the wrestler's signature grel and instructions for a fake

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<v Speaker 14>dance craze with the recurring line, do the hammer lock,

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<v Speaker 14>you turkey nicks. So why don't I leave it at

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<v Speaker 14>that and let's play the Crusher by the Novas.

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<v Speaker 13>Do the hammer lock, I do the hammer lot. Do

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<v Speaker 13>the hammer lock, you turkeyacks. Yeah, do the hammer lock,

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<v Speaker 13>the hammer lock. Everybody's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Duty.

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<v Speaker 7>I gods, Candy, I God, I got you turkey nags. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I do the I go, I do, I God, everybody's doing.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, your turkey nucks.

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<v Speaker 5>Had a round.

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<v Speaker 9>I really know you how to do that crusher, Na,

439
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<v Speaker 9>just not learn that job.

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<v Speaker 7>You gonna get here the ring. Okay, I'll take your

441
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<v Speaker 7>profess and that's put it out of your waist, now

442
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<v Speaker 7>have you dog?

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<v Speaker 13>They're gonna bear that.

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<v Speaker 7>Spray if I just wake your crocker's head, just.

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<v Speaker 13>Fload of place that crusher. Know that crushers, show your

446
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.039
<v Speaker 13>turny nucks. You can't do that crusher.

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<v Speaker 14>Everybody now, okay, the crusher by then Nova's Now. I

448
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<v Speaker 14>think I detected a little bit of grunting and groaning

449
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<v Speaker 14>in that track there.

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<v Speaker 5>Mercedes with that kind of Okay, there might there might

451
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<v Speaker 5>have even been some words in there too, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I could swear I heard the term do the I ouch.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, I just I'm just picturing horrified nineteen early

454
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 14>sixties parents, you know, who are still in that fifties vibe,

455
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<v Speaker 14>you know, And I could see that, you know, some

456
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<v Speaker 14>mom pulling her son from these guys because she was

457
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 14>afraid he was gonna, I don't know, do some drugs

458
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<v Speaker 14>and brock and roll for God's sakes.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, it's interesting. It's interesting too that right around the

460
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<v Speaker 5>same time the Surfing Bird song came out by the Trash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so it was in that vein of just absurdity. Really.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, completely, But I'm kind of sorry these guys

463
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<v Speaker 14>went off to college. I have to do a little

464
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<v Speaker 14>more reason to find research and find out whatever happened

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<v Speaker 14>to these guys.

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<v Speaker 10>But anyway, the Ramones did the recorded a version on

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<v Speaker 10>their studio album Adios Amigos, written by D D Ramone

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<v Speaker 10>under the moniker D D King.

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<v Speaker 6>Do I have that right there, the Wizard of.

470
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<v Speaker 5>Ugg Yeah, the well, yeah, they're their version that the

471
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 5>lyrics are different, but it's based on the same character.

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<v Speaker 5>The crush and it was sung written by d D.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was sung by their then current bass player

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<v Speaker 5>CJ Okay Ramone. So yeah, and d D King was

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<v Speaker 5>his rap name, and that lasted all of about one album,

476
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 5>and and that was about all anybody could really.

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<v Speaker 8>You did you did a song from his rap album?

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<v Speaker 5>I believe so he did.

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<v Speaker 8>He did.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think mashed Potato time he did that, and

481
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<v Speaker 5>it's no and you know, yeah, as far as rap

482
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 5>goes was a great punk rock bass player.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I I first, I first, of course, when I

484
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<v Speaker 14>was doing my research for this, the Ramones pop right up.

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<v Speaker 14>But in true what I have learned from my my,

486
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<v Speaker 14>my dear Crambones here on the Rock and Roll History Show,

487
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<v Speaker 14>Let's dig a little deeper, and I found the novas

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<v Speaker 14>and uh and there you have it, folks. So I

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<v Speaker 14>hope you can take a listen check it out on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 14>It's actually a real fun parody song. And h just

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<v Speaker 14>don't try to sing along. You might crack your vocal chords.

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00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if you don't have laryngitis, you will, exactly.

493
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<v Speaker 8>I'm so curious what they look like. Do they do

494
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<v Speaker 8>they dress for the part?

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<v Speaker 14>No, they're they're typical early sixties teenagers. They're very think uh,

496
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<v Speaker 14>I think early Beatles, real, you know, real clean cut.

497
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<v Speaker 14>I'll send you guys a picture but funny. Yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 14>yeah yeah, real classic. Then you could see the picture

499
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<v Speaker 14>and try to imagine these kids doing those guttural skin

500
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 14>of screeches and you know, but hope you all enjoyed

501
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:18.480
<v Speaker 14>this little blast from nineteen sixty four and then the

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00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 14>late great Novas the Crusher.

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<v Speaker 10>So thank you, Mercedes. You forced me down a rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 6>Appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 18>Love it awesome?

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<v Speaker 5>That was great.

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<v Speaker 6>That was a good one. All right, Let's take a

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<v Speaker 6>quick break. Let you reset your ears for a minute,

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<v Speaker 6>and we have lots more coming up, So stick around

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<v Speaker 6>Hudson River Radio. Your dog likes us.

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<v Speaker 8>This concludes the first part of this cassette. Please turn

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<v Speaker 8>the cassette over and begin again on side too. This

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<v Speaker 8>is Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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<v Speaker 6>Ah y, give me uh Gail.

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<v Speaker 15>That is a truly hard act to follow. There's nothing

516
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 15>quite like John's presentation just now.

517
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<v Speaker 2>And that song mine's kind of boring compared to that. Wow.

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<v Speaker 15>I chose a song by the Pixies and they started

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<v Speaker 15>they they're from the United States. They formed a band

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00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 15>in nineteen eighty six in Boston, Massachusetts. They were active

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<v Speaker 15>from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety three, and then

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00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 15>back again two thousand and four to the present. The

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00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 15>original lineup was Black Francis on vocals and rhythm guitar,

524
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 15>Joey Santiago on lead guitar, Kim Deal on bass and vocals,

525
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 15>and David Lovering on drums. They're associated with the nineteen

526
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:16.440
<v Speaker 15>nineties alternative rock boom, and they drew on elements including

527
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 15>punk rock and surf rock, although from what little I've

528
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 15>heard of them, I don't really.

529
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Think that. I don't know where they get the surf

530
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 2>rock because I don't hear it.

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<v Speaker 15>But anyway, oh, their music is known for dynamics, loud quiet,

532
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 15>loud shifts, and song structures kind of like when you're

533
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<v Speaker 15>watching TV and the actual program you're listening to, the

534
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 15>dialogue is very very quiet, and then the commercial comes

535
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<v Speaker 15>really loud.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is not supposed to do anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>That was like, that was that the what if you

538
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<v Speaker 5>want to call it genre or whatever, that idea was.

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00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 5>Nirvana did it all the time. That's where it started

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<v Speaker 5>to blame them, is what I'm going to say. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>that's it sounds soft and all of a sudden he

542
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<v Speaker 5>steps on the you know.

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<v Speaker 15>Black Francis is the primary songwriter. His often surreal lyrics

544
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<v Speaker 15>cover such cheerful topics as extraterrestrials, incest, and biblical violence.

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<v Speaker 15>The Pixies only found the modest success in the US,

546
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<v Speaker 15>but were much more successful in the UK and elsewhere

547
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<v Speaker 15>in Europe. Their alternative rock sound influenced acts such as Nirvana, Radiohead,

548
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<v Speaker 15>Modest Mouse, The Smashing Pumpkins, and Wheezer. The way the

549
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 15>group picked their name was when Joey Santiago selected the

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<v Speaker 15>word Pixies randomly from a dictionary, liking how it looked

551
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<v Speaker 15>and it's definition as mischievous little elves. Actually that should

552
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<v Speaker 15>be mischievous little elves. Uh. The song I chose called

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<v Speaker 15>Hey almostly oh, but it's you know, there isn't uh

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<v Speaker 15>in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just hey, it's like schoolhouse rock interjections.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, introjects. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>So Hey is from their second full album, which was

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<v Speaker 15>called Doolittle, as in Doctor Dolittle, and that was recorded

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<v Speaker 15>in the last six weeks of nineteen eighty eight. Dolittle

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<v Speaker 15>had a much cleaner sound compared to the raw sound

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<v Speaker 15>of their first first two releases, largely due to the

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<v Speaker 15>production budget of forty thousand dollars, which was quadruple that

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<v Speaker 15>of their previous album. Doolittle was their first album to

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<v Speaker 15>enter onto the Billboard two hundred, peaking at ninety eight

565
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<v Speaker 15>in the UK. The album was a commercial success, reaching

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<v Speaker 15>number eight into the Billboard two hundred. In early nineteen

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<v Speaker 15>ninety three, Black Francis announced this guy apparently had no

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<v Speaker 15>emotional intelligence because he announced in an interview with BBC

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<v Speaker 15>Radio five that the Pixies were finished without telling the

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<v Speaker 15>other band members.

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<v Speaker 6>That reflects back to the mischievous part.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I guess they all said.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah. He offered no explanation at the time. He later

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<v Speaker 15>called Santiago and notified Dale and Lovering via fax. Look

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<v Speaker 15>so rude, Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised they didn't like come for him afterwards.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, not too passive aggressive now, So let's hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Hey, been trying to meet you.

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<v Speaker 18>Hey ask me a devil between us.

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<v Speaker 19>Moors in my head? How hor in my bad?

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, where.

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<v Speaker 15>Have you.

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<v Speaker 10>Be?

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<v Speaker 4>If you go?

585
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<v Speaker 2>I was shut it down?

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<v Speaker 15>Shut h.

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<v Speaker 4>Named which by.

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<v Speaker 19>Age, butcher cha back to Butcher.

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<v Speaker 20>H sit the man to the lady, lady to the man,

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<v Speaker 20>she a guard and the horse like a mile.

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<v Speaker 4>Nights and marreth you tired about this up?

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<v Speaker 19>Yes? Sound I come by?

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<v Speaker 16>Thence on a man of ride? Which which which witch? Witch?

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<v Speaker 19>When ship? Which?

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<v Speaker 15>That sounds kind of like, oh rough, maybe stream of

596
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<v Speaker 15>consciousness thing going there to me?

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<v Speaker 2>They did have a couple of in.

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<v Speaker 8>There, Oh yeah, clearly besides hey, okay, oh so.

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<v Speaker 15>They're influenced by a number of different artists and music genres.

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<v Speaker 15>Each member came from a different musical background. Some of

601
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<v Speaker 15>their influences are Slash were, Who'scardu, Captain beef Hart, who

602
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<v Speaker 15>I never heard of, Neil probably heard of, uh yeah,

603
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<v Speaker 15>because Neil knows everything about.

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<v Speaker 5>Rock, not everything, almost Iggy pop.

605
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<v Speaker 15>Ri Em, The Beatles, White Album, Buddy Holly, Black Flag,

606
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<v Speaker 15>David Bowie, t Rex, Elvis Costello, and the list goes on.

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<v Speaker 15>Most of the Pixies songs are composed and sung by

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<v Speaker 15>lead singer Black Francis. Critic Stephen Thomas Lwin has described

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<v Speaker 15>his writing as containing bizarre, fragmented lyrics about space, religion, sex, mutilation,

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00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 15>and pop culture. This particular song is known as a

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<v Speaker 15>gritty blues influenced rock ballad about the chaotic and dark

612
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<v Speaker 15>realities of a turbulent relationship. Frank Black Who that's that's

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<v Speaker 15>what Black Frank took as a name when he when

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<v Speaker 15>the band split up and they all went and did

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<v Speaker 15>you know solo things?

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<v Speaker 11>Wait, he went from black Frank to Frank Black.

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<v Speaker 15>Uh, Francis Black Francis to Frank Black Okay, a little confusing.

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<v Speaker 15>He has described it as an R and B slow jam,

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<v Speaker 15>rooted in rumors and stories he heard about his parents

620
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<v Speaker 15>wild younger years.

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<v Speaker 2>Alrighty.

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<v Speaker 15>Then the lyrics explore the themes of infidelity, jealousy and

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<v Speaker 15>unresolved longing. The protagonist feels inextricably chained to his lover,

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<v Speaker 15>acknowledging the toxicity and distractions. Now the distractions were metaphorized

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<v Speaker 15>as shall we say to be more family friendly? Ladies

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<v Speaker 15>of the night in my head and constantly pulling them apart.

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<v Speaker 15>So that's thinking about his parents. Oh my goodness, wow wow.

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<v Speaker 15>The album was an instant critical success and became their

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<v Speaker 15>breakthrough album. It was very well received in Europe, where

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<v Speaker 15>the British Music weeklies Melody Maker and Sounds named it

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<v Speaker 15>their best album of the year, and on its release,

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<v Speaker 15>Do Little Relief. Do Little reached number eight on the

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<v Speaker 15>UK Album's chart. It has sold consistently since its release,

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<v Speaker 15>and numerous music publications have placed it among the top

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<v Speaker 15>albums of the nineteen eighties. I had never heard of

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<v Speaker 15>them until like four years ago, but that doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 15>mean anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah.

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<v Speaker 15>It charted at number one seventy one on the US

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<v Speaker 15>Billboard two hundred and it sold steadily in America, breaking

641
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<v Speaker 15>sales of one hundred thousand and the lineup because you know,

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<v Speaker 15>bands seem to go through changes in line up and

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<v Speaker 15>there's it would have taken forever to tell about who

644
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 15>did what and when and came back and left and

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00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 15>butt On this particular song, Black Francis is on vocals,

646
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:30.639
<v Speaker 15>rhythm guitar and acoustic guitar, Kim Deal is on bass,

647
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 15>guitar and vocals, Joey Santiago is on lead guitar and

648
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 15>backing vocals, and David Lovering is on drums.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mercedes or Neil Do you have anything to add?

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<v Speaker 5>Not particularly. The only song I really know by them

651
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 5>is called This Monkey's Gone to Heaven, which used to

652
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.280
<v Speaker 5>I'd hear it on the radio. But I think that

653
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<v Speaker 5>what was one of the singles from that album.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the main single from it had to do with.

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<v Speaker 15>The environment and what was happening to the environment.

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<v Speaker 5>And I also know yeah, Kim Deal went on to

657
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<v Speaker 5>be in a band called The Breeders, who had, you know,

658
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<v Speaker 5>some relative success.

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00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Cannon Ball is one of their singles.

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<v Speaker 8>I really like that song me too.

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<v Speaker 5>That They're very provocative, They're very you know, they're very

662
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 5>they make you think.

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00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:41.079
<v Speaker 2>But that's good sometimes, No, of course it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Gives me a headache when I have to engage this part.

665
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<v Speaker 2>Thinking is underrated.

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00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 6>It's such a pain.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I got.

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00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:03.039
<v Speaker 6>That was a good one. Barbara brought to you Okay, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I have chosen the song Boogie with Me, sometimes known

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<v Speaker 1>as simply Boogie by John Hartford. He was born John

671
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Harford on December thirtieth, nineteen thirty seven, and he later

672
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<v Speaker 1>changed his last name to Hartford because chet Atkins, who

673
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<v Speaker 1>signed Hartford to RCAA Records in nineteen sixty three, thought

674
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it would sound better professionally and advised him to Hartford

675
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>was an American folk, country and bluegrass musician and composer,

676
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<v Speaker 1>also known for his excellence on fiddle and banjo, his

677
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 1>witty lyrics, unique vocal style which you will find out soon,

678
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and his extensive knowledge of the Mississippi River lore. He

679
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>was born in New York City but spent his childhood

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00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>in Saint Louis, Missouri, and he was a descendant of

681
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Henry and a cousin to Tennessee Williams. The Mississippi

682
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>River was a profound influence on his career and music.

683
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>He got various jobs on the river, beginning at age sixteen,

684
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 1>eventually earning his steamboat pilot's license. He worked on the

685
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.800
<v Speaker 1>river until nineteen sixty five, when he moved to Nashville

686
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 1>as he felt it was time to prioritize his music career.

687
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 1>The following year, he signed with RCA Victor and released

688
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 1>his first album. After being inspired by the film Doctor Jivago,

689
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>he wrote and recorded the song Gentle on My Mind

690
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and included it on his second album in nineteen sixty seven,

691
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<v Speaker 1>but it only achieved moderate success. However, it caught the

692
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>attention of everybody Glenn campbell I thought so okay who

693
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 1>recorded it, resulting in even more extensive success and later

694
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 1>becoming one of the most widely recorded Country Songs of

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00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.840
<v Speaker 1>All Time, earning four awards to two of which went

696
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<v Speaker 1>to Hartford. The royalties from the song gave Hartford financial independence,

697
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<v Speaker 1>and he then moved to the West Coast and became

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<v Speaker 1>a regular on The Smothers Brother's Comedy Hour, a regular

699
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on The Glenn Campbell Goodtime Hour, The Johnny Cash Show,

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00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 1>and various other TV and music performances, including playing with

701
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 1>the Birds on their album Sweetheart of the Rodeo. In

702
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy one, he signed with Warner Warner Brothers Records,

703
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>which gave him more freedom to record in a non

704
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>traditional style, which he preferred, and this style eventually evolved

705
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 1>into what is known as newgrass. He recorded several albums,

706
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 1>including Aeroplane and Plane is spelled p lai N, which

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00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.079
<v Speaker 1>featured the song Boogie with Me. So let's pause here

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<v Speaker 1>and for your listening pleasure, I present Boogie with Me.

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<v Speaker 12>Uh uh uh, Hey baby, wanna boogie boogie woogie woogie

710
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:13.639
<v Speaker 12>with me? Hey Baby, I wanna boogie boogie woogie woogie

711
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 12>with me a week and boogie over here. We can

712
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.159
<v Speaker 12>boogie over there. Come on, babe, we can boogie everywhere.

713
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:26.159
<v Speaker 12>Hey baby, I want a boogie, boogie, woogie woogie with me.

714
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:37.239
<v Speaker 12>Hey Baby, I want a boogie boogie woogie woogie with me.

715
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:42.599
<v Speaker 12>Hey Baby, I want a boogie boogie woogie woogie with me.

716
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.920
<v Speaker 12>A week and boogie in the house. We can boogie

717
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 12>in they are. Come on, baby, it ain't very hard,

718
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:54.159
<v Speaker 12>Hey babe, I want a boogie, a boogie woogie woogie

719
00:53:54.239 --> 00:54:04.519
<v Speaker 12>with me. Hey baby, I want a boogie, a boogie

720
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 12>wogay ogay with me. Hey Baby, I want a boogie,

721
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:13.079
<v Speaker 12>a boogie wogay woogie with me. Awaken, boogie in the

722
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.760
<v Speaker 12>living room, boogie and the Dan. Come on, baby, let's

723
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:17.679
<v Speaker 12>do it all again.

724
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 9>Aye, baby, I want a.

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00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 12>Boogie, a boogie woogie wogay with me. Boogie woogie woogie

726
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:33.320
<v Speaker 12>with me?

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00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>All right.

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00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Hartford's success on the Smothers brother series landed him and

729
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.880
<v Speaker 1>offered a star in his own detective TV series. Now,

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00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where you listened to Boogie with me

731
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, this guy would make a great TV.

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00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.239
<v Speaker 1>But yo, that's just my opinion.

733
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

734
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.559
<v Speaker 8>However, he turned it down to move back.

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00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:57.559
<v Speaker 1>To Nashville to further his music career, and he recorded

736
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.119
<v Speaker 1>more albums and developed a stage show than went on

737
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>tour recorded several songs for the movie soundtrack of Brother

738
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Where Art Thou, which resulted in another Grammy win. His

739
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 1>final tour was in April of two thousand, when he

740
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>found he had lost control of his hands due to

741
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:18.519
<v Speaker 1>a prior diagnosis in the eighties of non Hodgkins lymphoma.

742
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 1>And he passed away on June fourth, two thousand and one,

743
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.639
<v Speaker 1>at the age of sixty three, and he's buried in Nashville.

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00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:26.639
<v Speaker 1>He has a star on the Saint Louis Walk of

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00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Fame and a posthumous President's Award in September two thousand

746
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and five. There was also an annual John Harford Memorial

747
00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Festival held in Southern Indiana from eleven to twenty nineteen

748
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<v Speaker 1>and again in twenty twenty two. Couldn't I thought, maybe

749
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 1>they broke, you know, they stopped due to COVID, But

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00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find anything to substantiate that. And just what

751
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.599
<v Speaker 1>made me really happy was reading about like what a

752
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:57.159
<v Speaker 1>free spirit he was and during his lifetime, once he

753
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 1>actually gained the financial independence that he saw it, he

754
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 1>was actually able to periodically return to the Mississippi River

755
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know, use his piloting license except for fun

756
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and give people rides and dance around with them. And

757
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that just made me happy to know that he spent

758
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:16.519
<v Speaker 1>a good part of his life doing that and he

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00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:18.159
<v Speaker 1>had the time to do that.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's it. That's what I got.

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00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 1>And as soon as I heard this song, when I

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00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was fine trying to find a song, I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, this is the one. All I can say

764
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:29.199
<v Speaker 2>is wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, that's the most unusual one so far. I

766
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:37.760
<v Speaker 6>would say tonight, Yeah, we'll see what happens. But yup,

767
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 6>you're at the top of the list right now. Why

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00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.159
<v Speaker 6>don't we take a second, real quick break and we

769
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.639
<v Speaker 6>have two more and we'll see what happens after this.

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<v Speaker 6>Hudson Riverradio dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Hudson River Radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 6>And welcome back, Neil. We're gonna turn it over to you.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you have for us? Well, I'm still I'm

774
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 5>still grooving on the Crusher and the boogie boogie song

775
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.880
<v Speaker 5>there so, but the song I've chosen for today's topic

776
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 5>is called Sonic Reducer by the band The Dead Boys.

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00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.599
<v Speaker 5>Now Sonic Reducer is considered a classic in the punk

778
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:27.360
<v Speaker 5>rock genre. The Dead Boys were an American punk band

779
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.920
<v Speaker 5>from Cleveland, Ohio, and were among the first wave of

780
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:35.280
<v Speaker 5>punk bands in the late nineteen seventies. They were formed

781
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:40.079
<v Speaker 5>in nineteen seventy five by vocalist Steve Baters, lead guitarist

782
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 5>Cheetah Chrome, rhythm guitarist Jimmy Zero, bassist Jeff Jeff Magnum,

783
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 5>and drummer Johnny blitz Now. The band moved to New

784
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 5>York City in July of nineteen seventy six on the

785
00:57:55.360 --> 00:58:00.639
<v Speaker 5>advice of Joey Ramone, and he quickly get a following

786
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:06.159
<v Speaker 5>at places like CBGB's with their lude and profane live performances.

787
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:10.519
<v Speaker 5>They are regarded as one of the most outrageous groups

788
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:15.159
<v Speaker 5>of that era. Now. The song Sonic Producer was written

789
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:18.920
<v Speaker 5>by Cheetah Chrome and David Thomas while they were both

790
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 5>in a pre Dead Boys band called Rocket from the

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00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:26.760
<v Speaker 5>Tombs Now. Incidentally, David Thomas would go on to form

792
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 5>and front the band para Ubu for the next fifty years.

793
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 5>The song was recorded by The Dead Boys with lyrics

794
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.920
<v Speaker 5>rewritten by singer Stive Baters, and it's the leadoff track

795
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:44.320
<v Speaker 5>on their nineteen seventy seven debut album, Young Loud and Snotty.

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00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.840
<v Speaker 5>On Sire Records.

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00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:53.239
<v Speaker 6>Boy Love It, Uh.

798
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.920
<v Speaker 5>Young, Loud and Snotty because I Like to Say It

799
00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:03.039
<v Speaker 5>Again charted at number one on the Billboard two hundred

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00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:07.920
<v Speaker 5>of that year, November nineteen seventy seven. Now, by the way,

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00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:12.880
<v Speaker 5>that debut LP was produced by the legendary Gania Raven,

802
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.559
<v Speaker 5>who was a member of one of the first all

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00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:20.280
<v Speaker 5>female bands called Goldie and the Gingerbreads back in nineteen

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00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:24.119
<v Speaker 5>sixty three, and she's currently a DJ on Little Stephen's

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00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:29.320
<v Speaker 5>Underground Garage on Sirius XM. Okay, let's get down to it.

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00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 5>As far as the grunts and groans go, now, the

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00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:36.719
<v Speaker 5>first one appears at about the one minute mark after

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00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.599
<v Speaker 5>the first verse in chorus. At that point, singer Stiff

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00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:44.320
<v Speaker 5>Baders sounds kind of like he's hacking up a hair ball.

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00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:52.519
<v Speaker 5>Then right before the guitar solo, he lets out an

811
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 5>awesome scream and then sounds like he's vomiting, And then

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00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 5>right the end of the song, stay tuned for that

813
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.400
<v Speaker 5>because that's where he really starts blowing chunks. Oh my God,

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01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 5>Sit back and enjoy if you can, Sonic by.

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01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:14.119
<v Speaker 9>The Dead Boys.

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01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.239
<v Speaker 18>I don't need that, it won't don't need no moment.

817
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:47.440
<v Speaker 18>Dad don't need no food advice, don't need no realm

818
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 18>or nice. I've got some news to you don't even

819
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 18>need to do.

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01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:58.760
<v Speaker 21>Yeah, I got a damn scene, got my noronic drive,

821
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:00.320
<v Speaker 21>sonic soup.

822
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 18>Ain't gonna lose out, you goma something put us out.

823
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:22.719
<v Speaker 18>Ain't gonna lose up. Sure, big bull light on the streets.

824
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 18>They don't know I I watched.

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01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:30.679
<v Speaker 3>Them from my room and they are just passed it by.

826
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 21>But I'm not, she said, A worm said, I'm not

827
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 21>just sad a walk that. I got my dumb machine,

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01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 21>got man that shonic train.

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01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Sid produce up.

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01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 9>Ain't no lose out.

831
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:49.599
<v Speaker 4>Goma something to do so, so, ain't nonna lose up.

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01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:29.679
<v Speaker 22>Don't be a favorite suit root from some drunk too,

833
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:35.239
<v Speaker 22>thinks will be different there, the sun will last from here.

834
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:40.840
<v Speaker 15>Let out be tepee time and yell be nothing at all.

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah, I got my down machine, I got my lept

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<v Speaker 21>tynish trish tn to do so.

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01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:49.400
<v Speaker 4>I ain't known use up.

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01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.840
<v Speaker 3>You gonna song to do so? I ain't known use out.

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<v Speaker 18>I gonna song son.

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01:02:59.119 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 1>To do so?

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01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:16.320
<v Speaker 5>Did you catch him on d you hear? Did you

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01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 5>hear them all?

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01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:19.800
<v Speaker 6>I think so? I don't think I got them all.

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<v Speaker 5>But well, I mean, I admit that Stive Bader's entire

845
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.400
<v Speaker 5>vocal delivery sounds like he's having a Grandmall seizure anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>The style back then.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, of course, I don't know how you could do

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<v Speaker 6>a whole concert with that just shredding your throat and

850
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:43.360
<v Speaker 6>then do it again the next day, and that sounds painful.

851
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well somehow he pulled it off.

852
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:48.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

853
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:52.519
<v Speaker 5>The Dead Boys released a second studio album called We

854
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:56.840
<v Speaker 5>Have Come for Your Children a year later, in nineteen

855
01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:59.079
<v Speaker 5>seventy eight. Now, this one was produced by a man

856
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 5>named Felix Popallardi, and he had previously produced the LP

857
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:06.280
<v Speaker 5>Wheels of Fire for Cream and also played bass in

858
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:10.880
<v Speaker 5>the band Mountain. So kind of a weird combination there,

859
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:16.440
<v Speaker 5>but good credentials. Yeah. Sonic Producer has been covered by

860
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:19.039
<v Speaker 5>bands like Guns n' Roses and Pearl Jam, and was

861
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:22.440
<v Speaker 5>sampled by the Beastie Boys on their song an Open

862
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Letter to New York City, and it has appeared on

863
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:31.800
<v Speaker 5>numerous punk rock compilation albums. Any compilation about punk rock

864
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:37.400
<v Speaker 5>worth its salt, It's got Sonic Producer in it. The

865
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:41.800
<v Speaker 5>album Young Loud and Snotty was ranked at number seven

866
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.800
<v Speaker 5>on a Rolling Stone magazine reader's poll of the ten

867
01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 5>greatest punk rock albums. Now. After the Dead Boys broke

868
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:52.639
<v Speaker 5>up in nineteen seventy nine, Stiff Baters formed a band

869
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:55.880
<v Speaker 5>called Lords of the New Church in nineteen eighty one

870
01:04:56.119 --> 01:05:00.280
<v Speaker 5>with the dam's original guitarist Brian James. Now you will

871
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:04.280
<v Speaker 5>be more mainstream than the Dead Boys. They definitely had

872
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:09.559
<v Speaker 5>more commercial success. Now. In nineteen nineties, Steve Baders died

873
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:13.119
<v Speaker 5>in Paris, France from injuries sustained after having been hit

874
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:16.920
<v Speaker 5>by a taxicab. Not believing that he was seriously injured,

875
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:19.760
<v Speaker 5>he refused to go to the hospital, returned to his apartment,

876
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:24.639
<v Speaker 5>and died in his sleep at age forty. Now now

877
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm just going to go off script here a little bit. Now.

878
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:31.639
<v Speaker 5>He was also known if you can believe it, to

879
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:37.360
<v Speaker 5>take drugs like heroin. Really yeah, can you imagine?

880
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:37.480
<v Speaker 6>No?

881
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.599
<v Speaker 5>I know, but one thing heroin apparently can do. I

882
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:45.760
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't know. This is something I am not familiar with.

883
01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:51.039
<v Speaker 5>I have heard that it can cause like anemia, you know,

884
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.960
<v Speaker 5>like that you can bleed out easily. So if he

885
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:55.840
<v Speaker 5>had internal injuries.

886
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:02.519
<v Speaker 6>And it's also a treats paind so somebody who was

887
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 6>completely sober would probably be in a whole lot more

888
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:06.880
<v Speaker 6>pain than he was.

889
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 5>But I've also heard that was the whole thing was

890
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of like a cover. It was a straight up

891
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:14.880
<v Speaker 5>od and they just said that the kind of I

892
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.719
<v Speaker 5>don't know, it's too bad he's gone, and that you

893
01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:23.280
<v Speaker 5>know it's forty is no joke, no, now, believe.

894
01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:23.239
<v Speaker 15>It or not.

895
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 5>I go on record, I never saw the Dead Boys

896
01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:32.239
<v Speaker 5>perform in their prime. Now I've admitted I'll tell you

897
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:33.960
<v Speaker 5>anyone I have seen, but i'll tell you when I

898
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:38.639
<v Speaker 5>haven't seen them either. I never saw them live in

899
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:43.559
<v Speaker 5>their in their heyday, so to speak. But back in

900
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:46.920
<v Speaker 5>two thousand and five, the surviving members reunited to play

901
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:51.599
<v Speaker 5>a benefit show that tried to save CBGBs from closing.

902
01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:55.559
<v Speaker 5>Obviously that didn't work, but I was at that show

903
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.760
<v Speaker 5>and they had Stiff's leather jacket hanging on the mic

904
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:01.920
<v Speaker 5>stand out in front, and at one point they announced,

905
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.000
<v Speaker 5>we're not the Dead Boys, we're what's left of the

906
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Dead Boys, so they knew who the who the main

907
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.719
<v Speaker 5>guy was. Now, I've also seen Cheetah Chrome play on

908
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.960
<v Speaker 5>his own more in more recent times, like at Joey

909
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:19.320
<v Speaker 5>Ramone's birthday bashes, and just a couple of years ago

910
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:22.840
<v Speaker 5>with Mercedes, we saw him in New York City with

911
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:28.199
<v Speaker 5>an obviously much younger band calling themselves the Dead Boys,

912
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:33.079
<v Speaker 5>in which Cheetah was the only original member. And I'll

913
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.760
<v Speaker 5>be you know, honest, I was personally kind of underwhelmed.

914
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.480
<v Speaker 5>But whatever, that's what you get in two thousand and

915
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:46.559
<v Speaker 5>twenty somethings. So there you have it. So that's my story.

916
01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:49.679
<v Speaker 5>Now go to a concert, agreed.

917
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:54.559
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say something that I'm not

918
01:07:54.679 --> 01:08:00.880
<v Speaker 11>sure is true, but I'm pretty sure it's true. I

919
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:02.559
<v Speaker 11>used to run the night club at f I T.

920
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 11>Fashion Institute Technology in Manhattan.

921
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:08.639
<v Speaker 8>And I hired them.

922
01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, they played for us for.

923
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:13.639
<v Speaker 8>Me one night.

924
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 5>That's awesome.

925
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 8>And then they went in.

926
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:22.359
<v Speaker 11>I showed them the dressing room. I had just gotten

927
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:27.159
<v Speaker 11>T shirt a T shirt order in uh probably I

928
01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:29.720
<v Speaker 11>don't know, three five hundred dollars worth of T shirts,

929
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:33.960
<v Speaker 11>probably three back then, but boxes and boxes of them.

930
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:34.840
<v Speaker 8>They took them all.

931
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:42.840
<v Speaker 5>That does not surprise me. I don't right, for some reason,

932
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:43.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm not that.

933
01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:47.000
<v Speaker 11>I don't know how they got past everybody They're just like,

934
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.039
<v Speaker 11>how do you walk out with these big boxes?

935
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:49.600
<v Speaker 2>But they did?

936
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:52.720
<v Speaker 5>What were they the T shirts of them? Or T

937
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:53.800
<v Speaker 5>shirts for the club?

938
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:55.359
<v Speaker 8>The club's T shirts?

939
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:59.239
<v Speaker 5>Oh so my T shirts for yeah?

940
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah all right, So have you seen any of the

941
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:05.840
<v Speaker 6>T shirts since?

942
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

943
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:10.640
<v Speaker 8>No or something?

944
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because if you could trace it back, you know,

945
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.399
<v Speaker 6>you may have some good stories there. Yeah, they have

946
01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:18.319
<v Speaker 6>to be out there. There have to be a few left.

947
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:21.199
<v Speaker 8>I mean there was a lot.

948
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:26.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Wow, yeah, all right, lesson learned. Don't leave anything

949
01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:27.520
<v Speaker 6>you don't want stolen.

950
01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:31.279
<v Speaker 8>In a band stressing room, in a bands stressing.

951
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:34.800
<v Speaker 6>Room, Yeah, a punk band stressing room. No, not a

952
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:35.359
<v Speaker 6>good idea.

953
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:38.800
<v Speaker 5>If it ain't nailed down, it's it's going yeah.

954
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:43.199
<v Speaker 6>All right, Well that's gonna be hard to top, so

955
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to try. I'm going to just completely

956
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:51.319
<v Speaker 6>change direction. We're going to start with a Russian baritone

957
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:56.199
<v Speaker 6>singer named Edward Keel khi L, often anglicized to hill

958
01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:00.760
<v Speaker 6>hi L. He was born in nineteen thirty four. His

959
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.399
<v Speaker 6>parents split up, and he wound up living with his mother.

960
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:06.319
<v Speaker 6>He was a young child in school at the start

961
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:08.920
<v Speaker 6>of World War Two. Keeping mind World War two started

962
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.960
<v Speaker 6>in Europe before the United States was involved, it was

963
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:16.760
<v Speaker 6>already underway. Edward was in school, supposedly kindergarten, and his

964
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:21.920
<v Speaker 6>school was bombed. He survived and he was evacuated with

965
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 6>other students, but unfortunately that separated him from his mother.

966
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:29.159
<v Speaker 6>He wound up in a children's home with other displaced kids.

967
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:33.039
<v Speaker 6>They barely had enough to survive, but some of these

968
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:36.920
<v Speaker 6>children still found joy in performing and singing for injured

969
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.920
<v Speaker 6>soldiers who were in makeshift hospitals nearby, so they made

970
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.880
<v Speaker 6>the most of what they had. When he was nine,

971
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 6>he was finally reunited with his mother. He would then

972
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 6>go to school to learn how to be a printer,

973
01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:52.319
<v Speaker 6>and then at twenty one he started at the Leningrad

974
01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:56.239
<v Speaker 6>Conservatory as a voice student. A vocal student. He graduated

975
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.640
<v Speaker 6>from there in nineteen sixty and at this point Russia

976
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:03.399
<v Speaker 6>was now part of the Soviet Union the USSR, which

977
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.199
<v Speaker 6>is why those of us of certain ages had to

978
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:10.680
<v Speaker 6>do those ridiculous air raid drills in school. If you remember,

979
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 6>if you don't know what I'm talking about, you have

980
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 6>to go stand in the hallway with your hands over

981
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.000
<v Speaker 6>your head, like this was going to stop the Russian invasion.

982
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 6>The Soviet invasion so okay. So Edward did well in

983
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:28.399
<v Speaker 6>operatic roles, but he became interested in popular music, and

984
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 6>that is what made him a star in the Soviet Union.

985
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:34.239
<v Speaker 6>He won a bunch of awards and did well for himself.

986
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:36.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if he got a Peace Prize or not,

987
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:39.159
<v Speaker 6>but he got a bunch of music awards. In fact,

988
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:42.319
<v Speaker 6>the government set actually let him go out on tour

989
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:44.920
<v Speaker 6>and he toured over eighty countries around the world to

990
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.399
<v Speaker 6>help showcase Soviet talent, because that's what they did at

991
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:51.840
<v Speaker 6>the time. He was very good at connecting with audiences.

992
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 6>He had a great sense of humor. He had a

993
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:56.720
<v Speaker 6>charm about him, a very distinctive voice, and he was

994
01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:02.199
<v Speaker 6>always smiling. By the nineteen nineties, his popularity kind of

995
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.119
<v Speaker 6>waned a little bit, but he was always working. For example,

996
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:08.920
<v Speaker 6>he moved to Paris and he sang in cabarets in

997
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.960
<v Speaker 6>you know the Paris area, so those type of venues.

998
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:15.159
<v Speaker 6>He never stopped working. Back when he was a student

999
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.159
<v Speaker 6>in the conservatory, he got married to a fellow music

1000
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:20.760
<v Speaker 6>student and they were married for the rest of his life.

1001
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:25.199
<v Speaker 6>They had one son, who was also a musician, and unfortunately,

1002
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:28.399
<v Speaker 6>in twenty twelve he died of a stroke in Saint Petersburg.

1003
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.479
<v Speaker 6>So set Edward aside for one second. We will come

1004
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:36.560
<v Speaker 6>back to him shortly now. There was a Russian composer

1005
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:40.479
<v Speaker 6>named ar Katie Ostrowski who was born in nineteen fourteen.

1006
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:43.640
<v Speaker 6>He died in nineteen sixty seven. He was known for

1007
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:48.560
<v Speaker 6>writing what is termed lighter music, stuff like lullabies, children's songs,

1008
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:50.960
<v Speaker 6>adult songs with like a simpler melody, you know, like

1009
01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:52.520
<v Speaker 6>an acoustic guitar kind of thing.

1010
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:53.680
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1011
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:57.039
<v Speaker 6>Lighter music doesn't mean easy or simple, it just means light,

1012
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.359
<v Speaker 6>lighter themes and that kind of stuff. He was working

1013
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.319
<v Speaker 6>on a tune that he titled I Am Very glad

1014
01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:06.920
<v Speaker 6>as I am finally returning back home, which I'm hoping

1015
01:13:07.079 --> 01:13:10.840
<v Speaker 6>is just much shorter in Russian because by the time

1016
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:11.800
<v Speaker 6>you're done saying.

1017
01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:14.600
<v Speaker 8>That you're home already not very catchy.

1018
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:17.239
<v Speaker 6>No, no, I'm sure it sounds better in Russian, but

1019
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:20.239
<v Speaker 6>I really have no idea. The lyrics for the song

1020
01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:22.760
<v Speaker 6>were based on a poem about returning home to the

1021
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:28.840
<v Speaker 6>American West, stuff like wide open spaces, fresh air, mountain views,

1022
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:31.560
<v Speaker 6>trying to make the buffalo extinct, all that kind of

1023
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:36.439
<v Speaker 6>stuff that the American West was known for. Edward Keel

1024
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:39.359
<v Speaker 6>was supposed to perform the song on Soviet television in

1025
01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:42.920
<v Speaker 6>nineteen seventy six. Now this is where the story kind

1026
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:46.000
<v Speaker 6>of we're not really sure. There are three possible sets

1027
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:48.439
<v Speaker 6>of facts that may have happened at this point. I

1028
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:51.039
<v Speaker 6>think each of them has a bit of truth to them.

1029
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:54.640
<v Speaker 6>You tell me what you think. Number one, the Soviet

1030
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:57.720
<v Speaker 6>government said, don yet yet. Yet they would not allow

1031
01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:00.680
<v Speaker 6>a happy song about the United States to be aired

1032
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.159
<v Speaker 6>because everybody in the United States is a bunch of

1033
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:06.720
<v Speaker 6>capitalist pigs and that was not going to happen. Remember,

1034
01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:10.119
<v Speaker 6>everybody was bad mouthed on the other side. So Soviet

1035
01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 6>Union said, America is miserable and awful, and they were

1036
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 6>not going to allow a happy song to be done

1037
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:21.680
<v Speaker 6>on TV propaganda. Uh huh, goes both ways. Number two

1038
01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:25.720
<v Speaker 6>Edward himself had hinted in interviews that the lyrics were

1039
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:30.960
<v Speaker 6>kind of stupid and not fit to be published. Yet, which,

1040
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:37.079
<v Speaker 6>all right, given the title maybe yeah. Number Three. Ostrowski,

1041
01:14:37.239 --> 01:14:40.560
<v Speaker 6>the composer got into an argument with the poet slash

1042
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:45.079
<v Speaker 6>lyricist about which is more important the music or the lyrics,

1043
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.760
<v Speaker 6>each of whom thought their part was more important, and

1044
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.800
<v Speaker 6>the argument got so heated that Ostrowsky basically told the

1045
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:55.079
<v Speaker 6>lyricists to take his lyrics and stick them where the

1046
01:14:55.119 --> 01:15:01.279
<v Speaker 6>sun don't shine. Whichever version or combin of these three things,

1047
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:04.439
<v Speaker 6>the result is that the piece was rewritten as a

1048
01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 6>vocal lease, meaning that the melody stayed the same, but

1049
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.079
<v Speaker 6>the lyrics were removed and were changed to nonsense syllables.

1050
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:17.000
<v Speaker 6>So this vocalese version is what Edward Keel wound up

1051
01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:21.720
<v Speaker 6>performing on TV in nineteen seventy six, and it was

1052
01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:25.640
<v Speaker 6>a hit, so much so that Edward adopted the stage

1053
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.319
<v Speaker 6>name that was given to him by the audience, mister

1054
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 6>Trollo low, based on the nonsense syllable low troll lo

1055
01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:38.359
<v Speaker 6>t r o l o l o. Mister trollo low,

1056
01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:40.439
<v Speaker 6>he just as opposed to.

1057
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:44.600
<v Speaker 11>La la correct sound sounds better in German, I mean Russian?

1058
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:46.600
<v Speaker 5>Does it?

1059
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:47.560
<v Speaker 6>We'll go with that.

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01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:52.039
<v Speaker 5>Trilo la sounded to Americans.

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01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:58.600
<v Speaker 6>It did. I think trollo lo capitalist peak. Now chances

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<v Speaker 6>are you've seen a clip of this performance because it

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01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 6>started becoming viral in twenty ten when it was rediscovered

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01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:07.079
<v Speaker 6>and put up on YouTube, and it was making the

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<v Speaker 6>circuit around social media to the point where Stephen Colbert,

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<v Speaker 6>Jimmy Kimmel, and even Family Guy each did a spoof

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<v Speaker 6>of this. Colbert loved it because this guy was just

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<v Speaker 6>smiley and so full of joy, which I think is great.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm gonna stop talking now and we are going

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<v Speaker 6>to listen to I am very glad as I am

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<v Speaker 6>finally returning back home now better known as Trollolo.

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<v Speaker 9>No no no no no no no no no did

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<v Speaker 9>oh holla no no no no no no no no

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<v Speaker 9>no no no no no no no no no no no.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 6>And there you have it, Crambones. I turn it over

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<v Speaker 6>to you for your commentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna this this picture that you sent of this

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01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 1>guy singing this song. I'm using this as your contact photo.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you I have no words, and apparently neither

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01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:31.239
<v Speaker 5>did he neither does the song.

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01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:32.199
<v Speaker 3>So mm hmm.

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01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:35.439
<v Speaker 8>It was kind of fun to hear once.

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01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:37.399
<v Speaker 6>It's a bit of a rock and roll move to

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01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:39.800
<v Speaker 6>be like, I don't need your lyrics.

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01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:42.279
<v Speaker 3>To see what you get.

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<v Speaker 15>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know did he sing it the same

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01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.760
<v Speaker 5>way every time or did he just kind of make

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01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:50.600
<v Speaker 5>it up as you went along.

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01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:51.479
<v Speaker 6>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, and who.

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01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:55.520
<v Speaker 6>Would know generally a vocally something like that. It's written out,

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01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:58.119
<v Speaker 6>the syllables are actually written out, so it would be

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01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:01.560
<v Speaker 6>the same. But with him his background and pop music also,

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01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:03.399
<v Speaker 6>who knows, maybe.

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01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:04.760
<v Speaker 8>Roopies and roadies know.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it was before the age of teleprompters, so

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01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:12.520
<v Speaker 5>that that would be of no help, you know. Or

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<v Speaker 5>if you had it on the music stand, what would it?

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01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:18.720
<v Speaker 5>Saya la la la.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So that's it. I have nothing more to add

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01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000
<v Speaker 6>on that one. I don't think there is anything else

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01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:31.399
<v Speaker 6>to add.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah there are.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Well, I hope I fulfill the assignment.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody.

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01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:46.319
<v Speaker 11>Everybody's pick was fabulous.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, So that means it's a good time to

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01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:51.920
<v Speaker 6>pull the plug right before things go further downhill. So

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01:20:52.119 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 6>let's do that, all right. Everybody take your uh's with

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01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.960
<v Speaker 6>you on your way out the door. Mercedes, good topic

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01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:01.439
<v Speaker 6>that was. That was a lot of homework and I

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<v Speaker 6>don't mind that.

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<v Speaker 9>I liked that. That was good.

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<v Speaker 6>Nice job to everybody, and thank you all for joining

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<v Speaker 6>Until then, have a great weekend and peace out. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 6>come a rock cop.

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