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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty KFI AM six forty Bill Handle.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a Taco Tuesday, Rainy Taco Tuesday, March eleventh,

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<v Speaker 2>And before I dive into what happened with the LAPD

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<v Speaker 2>and give you a little bit of handle history.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil, what's going on with Wango Tango?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now moving on, And this is a story of

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<v Speaker 2>racism within the LAPD. And this has been going on

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<v Speaker 2>since the turn of the last century. LAPD has a

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<v Speaker 2>reputation of being quite possibly historically the most racist police

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<v Speaker 2>department in the country and maybe in the South, they

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<v Speaker 2>were more but for a fairly liberal area, although southern

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<v Speaker 2>California has been at times pretty conservative and so for

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<v Speaker 2>the better part of a year, an LAPD officer working

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<v Speaker 2>in the recruitment office secretly recorded dozens of conversation in

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<v Speaker 2>which fellow cops well racist and derogatory comments against black

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<v Speaker 2>police applicants, female colleagues, lesbian and gay coworkers. One Latina

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<v Speaker 2>LAPD officer said, you hit black people in the liver.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard they got weak livers. Whoever said that? You've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've heard every racist rant against African Americans

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have really weak livers.

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<v Speaker 2>Another described a Latina janitor to her colleagues as a

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<v Speaker 2>wet back that we've heard. One referred to a female

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<v Speaker 2>supervisor as a gay ass bitch. Black people enjoy grape

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<v Speaker 2>soda soda. Another Latino officer black people enjoy watermelon in

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<v Speaker 2>between basketball. I mean, you know, insanely racist remarks. And

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<v Speaker 2>these are recruitment people they're trying to while the lap

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to bring in minorities. This is what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>So these officers are in big, big trouble. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>the officers who hurled this invictive stuff. But also there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lieutenant supervisor who heard it and didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got some issues. But I want to go

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<v Speaker 2>back and talk about the LAPD. The LAPD since its

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<v Speaker 2>inception has been known, has a history of astounding racism.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite racist story, and it's not particularly racism per se.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not in terms of race, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>a socioeconomic kind of racism that during the Great Depression,

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<v Speaker 2>the dust Bowl Oklahoma, where people were starving to death,

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<v Speaker 2>the farmland disappeared in these huge dust storms, so you

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of these oakis. That's where that term

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<v Speaker 2>comes from. From Oklahoma driving in their dilapidated old trucks,

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<v Speaker 2>their pickup trucks piled high with furniture. LAPD stopped them

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<v Speaker 2>at the border of Nevada and California and Arizona and

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico, stop them right there at the order not

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<v Speaker 2>letting them into la because they were Okie's and Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeleos didn't want them around. We've had police chiefs that

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<v Speaker 2>were members of the q klux Klan, even storied police chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>William Parker, for example, who was police chief for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years and is Parker Centers named after him.

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<v Speaker 1>A racist of the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Water and a ton of officers caught making inappropriate remarks

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<v Speaker 2>and straight out beating African Americans. Rodney King was not aberrational.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a huge history of that. What happened with

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<v Speaker 2>Rodney King is it finally became plu public things like

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<v Speaker 2>Chief Daryl Gates, another police chief revered by the rank

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<v Speaker 2>and file, declared blacks might die from choke holds because

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<v Speaker 2>their arteries do not open as fast as normal people.

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<v Speaker 1>He brought in choke holds. He also he started with when.

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<v Speaker 2>Female officers first started going into the force. He wanted

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<v Speaker 2>women and men to be held in the same standards

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of their physical ability. And he said that

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that lesbians are allowed in and going after

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<v Speaker 2>lesbians is only lesbians with good upper body strength. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean just insanity, the stuff that goes on. And so

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<v Speaker 2>here you have a history and you've got at least

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<v Speaker 2>remember the Christopher Commission with all the misgivings. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the FEDS took over LAPD for a while, it was

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<v Speaker 2>so bad. So I hope this is going to change

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<v Speaker 2>big time, and I think it will.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it will. The fact is that a cop

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<v Speaker 1>recorded that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know this blue silence, you don't report you protect

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<v Speaker 2>other police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of going by the wayside.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's a law now that if police

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<v Speaker 2>officer sees what's going on and doesn't report it, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a crime in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, one of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know where the hell Neil is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to bring him into this because he cooks

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<v Speaker 2>with eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday I had an omelet.

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<v Speaker 2>I made an omelet, and what did I pay for

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<v Speaker 2>a dozen eggs? Ten bucks for a dozen eggs?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that? Isn't that special? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Bird flu hit in twenty twenty two, right, the Avian flu,

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<v Speaker 2>and since then, one hundred and sixty six million egg

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<v Speaker 2>laying eggs hens have been quote cold, which is another

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<v Speaker 2>way they've been killed. It's like, you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>putting your dog to sleep. You do not put your

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<v Speaker 2>dog to sleep. You have your dog killed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the bottom line. Aren't I special?

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<v Speaker 1>With that?

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<v Speaker 2>The price of eggs is predicted to climb forty one

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<v Speaker 2>percent higher this year after climbing like crazy, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>my ten dollars egg price is going to be fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>dollars this year is boy, that's special.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are people doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, eggs have gotten to the point where either

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<v Speaker 2>they're not buying eggs, using fewer eggs, going to restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>where some restaurants are charging a surcharge if you have

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<v Speaker 2>an egg dish, Well, how about backyard chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>Raise your own chickens. That's a simple solution.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at backyard chicken forums on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>it has exploded. Story on Saturday, Brooke Rowlands, the new

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of Agriculture, in a Fox and Friends interview, said

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<v Speaker 2>that raising backyard chickens is an awesome solution to high

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<v Speaker 2>egg prices. Okay, so an interview was done, a story

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<v Speaker 2>was done with someone who did start a backyard chicken flock. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're raising them just to have chickens pecking around

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<v Speaker 2>and you like chickens, or you're blind and when a

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<v Speaker 2>train of seeing eye chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're doing it to get eggs, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the most expensive eggs you will ever ever buy

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<v Speaker 2>in a lifetime. Because let's go through what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>chicken coops. That's kind of mandatory a thousand bucks, give

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<v Speaker 2>or take, unless you want to build your own the

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<v Speaker 2>chicks themselves. Egg laying chicks are about seventy bucks, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they grow, and then you have to feed them,

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<v Speaker 2>and so a heating plate to warm the birds because

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta have to keep them warm. Then about seven

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<v Speaker 2>months after you buy the little chicks, you get your

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<v Speaker 2>first egg. And eggs are seasonal because around November the

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<v Speaker 2>chickens slow down and then until March there are no

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<v Speaker 2>longer any eggs, so you got a few months of

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<v Speaker 2>springtime laying. If you have your own chickens, unless you

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<v Speaker 2>have your own industrial chicken farm that you have these

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<v Speaker 2>huge warehouses with artificial light and kept to a certain temperature,

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<v Speaker 2>then you are going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be able to have your own egges.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thought of the price is just astronomical. Why

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<v Speaker 2>wire eggs or used to be such an inexpensive way

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<v Speaker 2>to have protein. I mean, eggs are great food well

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<v Speaker 2>economies of scale. Eighty five percent of the table eggs

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<v Speaker 2>in the country they are from hens in industrial houses

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<v Speaker 2>that contain fifty thousand to three hundred and fifty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Hens each each big facility.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these farms can have up to six million

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<v Speaker 2>of these chickens. The Department of agri Agriculture refers to

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<v Speaker 2>any farm with fewer than ten thousand eggs as smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, a backyard flock of three to twenty hens, please,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even show up. It's not even a speck. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the early nineteen hundreds, when we were a

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<v Speaker 2>grarian society, eggs did come from smaller flocks, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was typically the housewife who raised eggs and sold them

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<v Speaker 2>to her neighbors. And those days are gone, Neil, So

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about eggs for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You're Are you still using eggs?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you paying ten bucks a carton for a dozen

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<v Speaker 2>eggs like I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Nine something? Yes, indeed we are.

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<v Speaker 3>We still have them, and we haven't switched to different

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<v Speaker 3>proteins or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you do at that price? Even in a

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<v Speaker 1>bucket egg? What do you do? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you do to supplant it?

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<v Speaker 2>If eggs are protein and you are, what you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>is supplanting that protein with some other protein or egg?

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<v Speaker 1>Still a decent deal at ten dollars a dozen?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so, But that you know, our household may

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<v Speaker 3>be different. Than other people's households. So for us, it's

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<v Speaker 3>an easy way to do it. You could still you

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<v Speaker 3>could supplement with beans. Beans are a great protein. You

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<v Speaker 3>could supplement with meat and add these different types of

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<v Speaker 3>things into your But for us, the amount of eggs

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<v Speaker 3>we eat it makes sense, and it's fine, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like we're plowing through them, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>having you know where we're getting carton after carton after carton,

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<v Speaker 3>carton will last quite a while here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually I don't pay attention at the supermarket. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not something I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just throw things into the cart because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I make enough so it's not going.

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<v Speaker 1>To affect me.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's two things I pay attention to. One now

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<v Speaker 2>the price of eggs, and two when I have a

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<v Speaker 2>barbecue and I go to Costco like the other day

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<v Speaker 2>and there was some prime beef and I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>barbecue at my daughter's house at twenty six dollars a pound,

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<v Speaker 2>then I paid attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And with eggs I pay attention. Yeah, I'm not really.

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<v Speaker 3>I only pay attention to know what's going on because

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<v Speaker 3>of the show. But my wife is very much she

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<v Speaker 3>has three or four different grocery stores, including Costco, Smart

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<v Speaker 3>and Final and the like, and she goes to them

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<v Speaker 3>based on cost and pricing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and unfortunately they're Unfortunately there are more and more

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<v Speaker 2>people that really do have to be concerned with cost

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<v Speaker 2>because food has gotten to be so dear.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still a good bargain. It's same with milk.

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<v Speaker 3>The cost of milk goes up and down, but when

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<v Speaker 3>you think about what you're getting, the nutrients, the vitamins,

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<v Speaker 3>the protein in these things, to me, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>well worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather cut back on something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm a big milk drinker. In the morning

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<v Speaker 2>with my coffee, I drink milk. And I always buy

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<v Speaker 2>homogenized milk as opposed to raw milk because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to die because crazy people out there believe in

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<v Speaker 2>raw milk. Although I do buy raw eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Go Fike.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people you know, suck them up, put them in

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, story about the Pardons.

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<v Speaker 2>And as as strongly as I felt about the Pardons,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought were completely insane, not all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly, you know, pardoning the cops. You know the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are January sixth insurrection, who were beating up cops,

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<v Speaker 2>some with an insure of their lives, all pardoned, all

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<v Speaker 2>of them heroes, all of them patriots, all of them hostages.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no legitimate arrest or conviction. It just didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>As we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Taken another step and this one man, I mean, come on, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty one, the skuy Elias Constianus was the

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<v Speaker 2>FBI raided his house and they found cocaine to stop costerone.

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutors said he was a drug dealer. He was also armed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he said he was merely supplying himself and friends.

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<v Speaker 2>So last September, a federal judge sentenced him to a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a day in prison. He pleads guilty to

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<v Speaker 2>possessing a gun while using illegal drugs. But Costianus brings

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<v Speaker 2>up a new card and this is on appeal right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He was part of the Capitol riot on January sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>President Donald Trump had pardon him for that, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>saying that the pardon also covered his gun conviction because

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI raid was related to his actions on January sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>and guess what the government did.

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice agreed with him, said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that pardon extend did to what you were picked

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<v Speaker 2>up for seven cases around the country. Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 2>has argued that separate criminal actions uncovered by the investigation

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<v Speaker 2>in January sixth are covered by Trump's pardon, and unrelated charges,

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<v Speaker 2>usually for illegal gun possession, should be dismissed. Now in

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<v Speaker 2>these cases, federal prosecutors initially opposed wiping away those unrelated

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<v Speaker 2>felony convictions. They argued on appeal, you can't do that

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<v Speaker 2>because they're unrelated. That's what federal prosecutors did Washington, d c.

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<v Speaker 2>And within weeks they changed their mind completely, reversing themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they receive quote, further clarity on the intent

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<v Speaker 2>of the presidential pardon from the Justice Department, saying the

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<v Speaker 2>president intended to pardon Costianus for crimes activities not related

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<v Speaker 2>to that specific day. Now, the executive order that he

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<v Speaker 2>signed pardoning about sixteen hundred basically everybody, the sixteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>January sixth defendants, says right there in the executive order,

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<v Speaker 2>the pardon applies only to convictions for offenses related to

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<v Speaker 2>events that occurred at or near the United States Capital

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<v Speaker 2>on January sixth. Okay, Now, his lawyers and the Justice

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<v Speaker 2>Department now are arguing that this was Trump's intent to

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<v Speaker 2>basically pardon him, to incorporate all of it, and the

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<v Speaker 2>courts should defer to the executive's reasonable interpretation of the

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<v Speaker 2>pardon language.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's with the courts, right, it's with a judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice is right there.

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<v Speaker 2>The position of the government is that those January sixth

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<v Speaker 2>defendants are were heroes, they were all patriots, they were

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<v Speaker 2>all hostages, and they are all victims of the weaponization

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<v Speaker 2>of the Department of Justice. And the position of the

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<v Speaker 2>department is that crimes that are quote not related, they're

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<v Speaker 1>And when the judges are asking saying, wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>You are arguing that this was the president's intent, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is too the Department of Justice, and they're saying, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>this was the president's intent. Based on what it's the

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<v Speaker 2>president's intent, because we say it's the president's intent, and

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<v Speaker 2>on what we believe was the president's intent. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the White House isn't saying it was Trump's intent. Even

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<v Speaker 2>the White House isn't gonna go that far, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Justice is. And you know, just here's one

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Brown by his misdemeanor of January sixth was dismissed,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was convicted in twenty twenty two of possessing

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<v Speaker 2>classified material illegally possessing short barreled guns live M sixty

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<v Speaker 1>All discovered during a search.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is arguing, after your sentenced to seven years,

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<v Speaker 2>he appealed, the conviction is now awaiting oral arguments, and

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<v Speaker 2>those charges, even though he was convicted separately, and originally

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecutor said, no, this is separate, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>prosecuted and convicted. Now the government has changed his mind

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<v Speaker 2>and said the pardon includes pardoning him.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the judge. She's gonna go no matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 2>The judge asked his lawyer why that pardon covered the

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<v Speaker 2>Florida case, his Florida case, and the attorney for the

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<v Speaker 2>Just Department said because the Department of Justice has determined

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<v Speaker 2>that it covers that, and the judge says that is

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<v Speaker 2>not a completely satisfactory answer. So you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>can it get any crazier? I mean, I will reach

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<v Speaker 2>the point where anybody who is a Trumps supporter gets

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<v Speaker 2>off the hook. If I get convicted of a federal crime,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to prison. If I stand here or sit

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<v Speaker 2>here and I talk about what a great guy Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is and how God really did save him to save America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm off the hook. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now a story about the Trump administration and going after

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<v Speaker 2>folks that they don't like, and in this case, for

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<v Speaker 2>this happens to be with dealing with the case of

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<v Speaker 2>Columbia University student Mahmud Khalil, arrested by Homeland Security for

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<v Speaker 2>his participation in the pro palest Indian demonstrations on the

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<v Speaker 2>Columbia campus. President Trump said this would not be the

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<v Speaker 2>last one. He said, we know there are more students

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<v Speaker 2>at Columbia and other universities across the country who have

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<v Speaker 2>engaged in pro terrorists, anti Semitic, anti American activity, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration will not tolerat it this is Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>In a social and social media post, the Education Department

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<v Speaker 2>said Monday yesterday it sent letters to sixty schools warning

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<v Speaker 2>of potential enforcement actions if they don't fulfill the obligations

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<v Speaker 2>to protect Jewish students, and Columbia has become a ground zero.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that Trump administration does. You can kiss

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<v Speaker 2>goodbye for one hundred million dollars worth of grants and

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<v Speaker 2>contracts Columbia has. Now, this is an issue of someone

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<v Speaker 2>who has a green card, whose wife is an American citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>who's still a student at Columbia graduate program, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was arrested for what he did. Here's his problem is

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<v Speaker 2>he occupied the library at Columbia. His organization stopped Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>students from going to class.

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<v Speaker 1>Graduation was canceled because of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now does he have the right to stay here pending

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<v Speaker 2>a conviction. Absolutely, And a judge just agreed with that

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<v Speaker 2>because he was about to be deported. But the issue is, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's First Amendment. First Amendment. Hey, occupying libraries is not

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<v Speaker 2>first Amendment. I mean, you may think it is because

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, to Palestinian pro Palestinian students and people

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<v Speaker 2>have a right to They can protest all they want.

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<v Speaker 2>Can they go on campus, No, they're trespassing. Can they

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<v Speaker 2>occupy buildings, No they can't. And Trump, who is a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan of Israel, has delineated anti Semitism as the

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<v Speaker 2>poster child of what he wants to do in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of political discourse.

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<v Speaker 1>And political opposition. He says, I won't take it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all there is to it. Now. The universities, frankly, have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Anti Israel universities, the professors have been pro Palestinian across

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the way they roll.

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<v Speaker 2>They're super left wing, and for some reason, the left

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<v Speaker 2>wing loves the Palestinians and hates Israel because of the occupation,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the underdog, and for so many people. By

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<v Speaker 2>going on nineteen forty eight, when Israel became a state

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<v Speaker 2>and Israel invaded Gaza, he'll say absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask him about October seventh, that did well? Did that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And you deflect. I want to talk about the occupation.

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<v Speaker 2>How about twelve hundred Israeli's murdered. It's the occupation.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the part that just riles me because if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at what's going on, have you seen one

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<v Speaker 1>One? I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll buy the argument of occupation, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>yes or no. Israel says it's for national security. The

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<v Speaker 2>pro Palestinians, the Palestinians there argue it's about occupation and

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<v Speaker 2>putting the Arabs down. Okay, I got it. You know

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<v Speaker 2>it's a legitimate argument. But you know, admit what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>Admit the murder of twelve hundred people, just arbitrarily, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all about occupation. So now, does he have a right

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<v Speaker 2>to stay here penning a conviction? Absolutely, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>should deport his ass. By the way, green card is

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<v Speaker 2>not the right to stay here. The green card is

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<v Speaker 2>a permission to stay here by the government, and it

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<v Speaker 2>could be yanked at any time. Now granted for legal reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>a citizenship uhuh, you can be tossed.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are a citizen, you're an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you have applied under fraudulent circumstances, then you

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can get deported. Even if you're

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<v Speaker 2>arrested for treason or seditious insurrection I do, or seditious conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you still have to be tried as an

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