Speaker 1: All Start Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn. Let's go, Let's go from a championship
backfield to your morning drive.
Speaker 2: Han'sday, Hester and Hester got it, fia Pa.
Speaker 1: Your locks in to Off the Bench Control the Live
from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio. Here's Jacob
Hester and Matt flynnome.
Speaker 2: Man Monday, Monday Monday here on OTV one oh four
five ESPN Baton Rouge. Just realize me and Flynn have
on the same shirt uniforms. Oh boy, black tea's no
black teas for a launder and tate, but the gang
is ah here.
Speaker 3: I didn't get the gotta get the text.
Speaker 4: I mean I got a dark color on, like a
dark navy on.
Speaker 3: Okay, that counts got color? Yeah, I don't know that
owns black. I almost wore a black shirt. That's the
host for Johanna.
Speaker 5: The black shirt on that. Yeah, it made me look
even worse on camera than.
Speaker 3: What black shirts are. Slimming.
Speaker 5: Yeah, white like brightness. Well sometimes I wear a white shirt.
It was too bright, like, let me go wear the black.
It's actually even worse.
Speaker 3: Got it? Do you do you ever? How often do
you see the sun? Oh? Four times a week? Are
you every day? Are you highway from bench warmers? No,
I'm outside all the time.
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, Today, July twenty eighth, the happy
eighteenth wedding anniversary to my missus to the bride, big
one eight what oh yeah anniversary, Yeah, happy anniversary eighteen
them things eighteen okay, the big number for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big numbers for the Hester crew.
Speaker 2: And if we didn't have like thirty seven practices tonight,
I'm sure we'd celebrate in style.
Speaker 6: So how often do y'all ever just you know, get
the sitter to come in and have a little date night.
Speaker 2: No, No, not yet quite yet, not quite yet. You
know it's important, Bud, Yeah, do it?
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: We see we've got this baby girl that mom's not
quite ready to leave just yet.
Speaker 3: She's too just too.
Speaker 7: So the eighteenth anniversary giftorcelain.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm I'm checked up on it. And I
took Jackson to football today.
Speaker 3: So toilet, Japanese toilet.
Speaker 2: That would have been, That would have been a move,
that would have been an hour move, that wud have been.
Speaker 3: Mike Leach would have done that, no doubt, I mean
it's something you everybody can appreciate. Yeah, everybody uses Yeah,
go where were you a week ago?
Speaker 6: You waited until a week before? Probably like a couple
of months ago, I waited.
Speaker 3: I think a week's pretty good. Week's are very good, right,
very good? You do you months in advance? Good for you?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, sometimes I'm more prepared than I usually am.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I shock even myself. Sometimes it's the day, sometimes.
Speaker 3: It's a week.
Speaker 6: Sometimes, like if it's a you know, if I'm just
feeling it. Yeah, super romantic a couple of months. That's
that's what I think of when I see you. No
doubt it's super super romantic.
Speaker 2: We do have a great show.
Speaker 3: Two, she's two. Not ready to get the old date
night back.
Speaker 2: You know, I can understand it was the first, but
it's I know, I don't know, I don't know, I
don't know. See, if Jackson was a girl, I think
I trust him more, Okay, because he's fifteen yep to
leave Harlowe with him?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, see, but I don't know. He might he'd
go back in his room. He'd be in the fourth
quarter of Toledo versus Eastern Michigan and n C Double
A or some random action games. So they got the
new game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, say, I'm trying to figure out how Jackson
actually worth the upgrade. You'll appreciate this. He didn't like
it as much, but you'll appreciate this. You know how
Jackson got money to buy the new the new game?
Selling cards, sold cards, Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3: Let's get like he had something. He's like, hey, can
you sell these?
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, absolutely, so I sold him and he
made enough money to buy the video game.
Speaker 3: I have it. I don't like it as about either.
You don't, So what do you not like about it?
I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't put you're great. You just fear change, like
I think I've plated twice since I've had it. I know,
I don't really know.
Speaker 6: So me and my son like to play. We play
on I've told you this. We play a dynasty together.
Speaker 2: So we're the rice OUs and lifetime offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: Huck does not want to He don't want to be
a head coach. I don't want to be a head coach.
Speaker 6: Didn't want to take the UT job, didn't want to
take the A and M job head coach. Nope, we're
gonna be the Offensive coordinate a Rice. We're gonna build
that program.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people turned down ut to
be the oc at rice. Yeah, yeah, a lot of people.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: I kept explaining to him, it's like, we'll never get
the head coaching job, Bud.
Speaker 3: Because we're winning. Because we're winning, and we're winning.
Speaker 6: We're winning those natties, Yeah, stacking them championships, hanging the banners.
Speaker 3: We're lifers there, Bud. We are lifers, but we do
like to play.
Speaker 6: So I've been trying to think do I make the
upgrade and buy the new one? And I've heard a
lot of good things just coming across the Twitter feed,
but this is the first two negative things for both
of y'all the same.
Speaker 3: So if you want to upgrade for that, you'll be fine. Okay,
what else is there? Just a little like you have
to they start?
Speaker 5: Are these weird settings, Like you don't like the controller vibration.
Anytime you sprint it vibrates constantly. You have to go
turn that off.
Speaker 6: It's just I don't know, it's kind of kind One
thing I don't like about the game is when you
play in an opponent stadium like the Louder, like the
Big pressure situations. Is I understand like the shaking and
making things like a little bit like harder to see,
like the routes harder to see. I don't understand them
hiding the routes from you. Yeah, like you when you
push the R two button whatever, you can see your path.
I don't understand that because it's not like you forget
what your people are doing. Maybe it's harder to see
it's a little shaky or whatever it is. I don't
I don't like that. I think those I thought that
was a dumb gameplay move.
Speaker 3: So you're saying you could have seen the routes if
you were playing in the swamp and it was the
fourth quarter, Well, it's it's pre snap what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And then it's like the buttons don't show up until
like a second or two after you even snap the ball.
So if you're the quarterback, I can't it's loud, it's
a little bit harder, but it's not like I forget
what play it is.
Speaker 5: Oh so that's the big complaint when you're playing on
the road, No, it's impossible. Yeah, it's like I'm sure
playing the roads harder than at home. It ain't hard
enough to wear like my receiver.
Speaker 3: Has a question mark and he doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you something like it's hard to
play on the road. It ain't that hard, though. If
you're a freshman and you're running forty eight Horn Boston.
JaMarcus is trying to audible to forty nine Horn Boston.
Speaker 3: You're like, what right? What? I can't hear anything. JaMarcus
is saying, it's hard to hear.
Speaker 2: But I know he's trying to say something to me,
but I have no idea what he's trying to say.
And then Joseph it dies back there.
Speaker 3: What did he say? Has What do you say? I
don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's see which way he turns and we'll run that way.
Speaker 3: So what we get into this weekend? I think you're
a lake right? Yep?
Speaker 6: I was a lake guy. We took the fan out,
We went up the False River. Iung out with some
friends at a camp and just cut it up, did
some tubing, did some jet skin, some fishing, just all
the lakes stuff, de leaded some beers, had a great time. Dude,
I had a great haven't hadn't spent as much time
a False River as like I probably should have because
we had a.
Speaker 3: Great time catch fish. We did.
Speaker 2: We got some just like some we caught some bait.
Speaker 6: Just it's kind of like just hanging out with the kids,
like a little fish bols, some some worms on there,
and we caught some catfish, a little small bass.
Speaker 3: You go there.
Speaker 2: You teach the kids how to take the catfish off you.
Speaker 3: No, I was.
Speaker 2: We weren't properly set up with much, but yeah, we
just taught him. I taught in the art of just
uh tight.
Speaker 6: Lining fishing on the bottom all right, you know, because
they've all all they've done, you know up to this
point is like fishing with bobbers or whatever. I'm like,
this is this is more professional here.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The kids though, they like to see that little
thing good they do. Yeah, so the adults, Yeah it
was good man.
Speaker 6: It was uh getting the kids down the lake, getting
to stretch their comfort zone and get a little bread
eve on that tube and that jet ski.
Speaker 4: Did you fling them off?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, you have to. I was right now.
Speaker 6: Well we also right on one of those like big
like couches almost those big red houses.
Speaker 3: They don't flip, so yeah, they're pretty safe on that.
Speaker 6: But then you get the little tube next to it
that's like the battle tube.
Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah, and that thing just gets had. That
was the best.
Speaker 2: You get two of those and you each get on one,
you and your buddy. It's like who knocks the other
guy off? Exactly like keening the mountain.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, it's like so we had this one huge tube
and this one smaller tube, so obviously the smaller tube
is just going just getting flipped every single time.
Speaker 3: That was great, had a great time.
Speaker 6: So the kids went from like, you know, even the
young one, you know, the four or five year old
in there, like to start with start with some tears,
you young but then starting screaming with like just like.
Speaker 3: Ah get up. Yeah yeah, it's great funny Landro. Would
you get into this weekend?
Speaker 7: Absolutely nothing, which was great. I did do hot pilates
on Saturday and I'm still sore from it. I feel
like I think doing stuff like pilates makes me more sore.
Speaker 3: Thane weights.
Speaker 2: We used to have to do yoga lotts with moffat
what night was that like Wednesday nights?
Speaker 3: Tuesday Wednesday?
Speaker 2: And started out we did karate at first when I
first got here, and then we transitioned to yoga lotts.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know somebody could sweat that much, like stretching right,
like holding a position.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so it was brutal.
Speaker 6: It was like the hardest work hout we do of
the week yoga. I was like, we're like working really hard.
Yeah when it curves did and I built for that
though the room.
Speaker 7: I don't know how hot the room is, but it's
pretty ding hot. It's like doing it in asana. Yeah,
so we should do it at the blockhe Yeah, So
they have a they always said that they've always had,
Like now they're doing bar classes too, so if you're
into bar, they offer those out. I did want the
last fifteen minutes of one one time because I went
to go do like a power hour, like a weightlifting one, right,
but they were in the last fifteen minutes of that
and they were like jump in. So I tried it
and it was I would compare it to pilates.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I definitely did not do that this week.
Speaker 6: It's a good boring weekend though. I do love when
people say, what'd you do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Nothing, I did go to see at Chris Marler finally
moved also shout out congratulations.
Speaker 4: He also uge she did say yes, she is here
in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 7: So congrats to Ali and Chris. Also lots of stuff
to celebrate your anniversary. Alan, Chris, shout out to my
little tiny baby sister.
Speaker 4: She's not so tiny anymore. It's her birthday today. She's
turning twenty.
Speaker 3: Right there the finish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then we were looking at like old pictures
of her.
Speaker 7: Course she was so tiny, and it was just like,
I don't know, you watch them grow up happy. Yeah,
I don't know if I can do like parenting because
it just makes me so sad.
Speaker 4: You know, like she's twenty.
Speaker 2: Now you have kids and then you know they're.
Speaker 4: I know, that's like I don't know if my heart.
Speaker 3: And over you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, happy birthday. Shout out to Marlur congratulations as well.
What did we get into this weekend?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 5: The three day weekend was nice, guys. Matt was asking,
He's like, where did you go? It's like we're here
for the one thing we didn't guess.
Speaker 3: I was like, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't go anywhere we guess like bransonno.
Speaker 3: Fargo, yeah, Ohio.
Speaker 6: Again, the most obvious choice is the one thing we
did not guess.
Speaker 3: Which was so well.
Speaker 5: Two weeks ago I was looking, I was like, sixteen
vacation days out and I gotta use some of them.
So I was like, you know what, three day weekend
before football season starts.
Speaker 3: Why not? I don't blame you.
Speaker 5: No, we got a little bit done. But uh, it
was a good weekend. I was like, I woke up
yesterday morning. I was like, man, should be three day
weekend every week?
Speaker 3: It was. It was nice, It was nice. We Uh
we had a little red next summer. Nothing like a
sprinkler under the trampoline. Oh yeah, it's like a right
a pass rednegg. Now because Harlowe was on there.
Speaker 2: It was a boys boys probably would have tried to
put it by the lake behind our house and jump
into the lake, but no sense, it was Harlow, not.
Speaker 3: Just a red neck sprinkler.
Speaker 6: Bow it last week and we did, and we went
to Low's and purchased a big thing of like painters
painters thisscueen and just like unrolled it into the backyard.
We got some uh baby shampoo, got the sprinklers set up,
bought a couple of like six dollars like sprinkles that
went back forth. Oh, we lit it up, dude, lit
it up. Slip inside. Yeah, you can get painters disclaen
for like thirty forty buck. Yeah, get a little baby shampoo,
a couple of sprinklers, water hose, and you can also
get like you know from Amazon three four five dollars,
like little inner tubes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you'll fly. I'm trying to think like my
backyard has a hill on it goes into the lake.
Oh yeah, yeah, now we're talk Yeah, pretty nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, set something up for the older one.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. Yeah, yep, Okay, we'll get that done.
We'll get that done. All right. So, as I mentioned,
we do have a ton to get to.
Speaker 2: Benny Logan is going to be joining us in like
fifteen minutes from now.
Speaker 3: Excited to have that conversation with him.
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle might be outside of offensive line the most important,
kind of intriguing position that we kind of have a
lot of unknown about heading into fall camp for LSU.
So excited to have smoke on the show. We've got
of course, Devin snow, we got hold to Mayo. Taylor's
got a new segment coming up at the end of
our number one. So we have a ton to get to.
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Speaker 3: What video game was this on?
Speaker 2: It was on Gosh, it was on.
Speaker 3: Like a fief a Madden somebody.
Speaker 6: He always had good music, like on the credits, had
the opening opening screen.
Speaker 3: I feel like this might have been somebody, and chat
helped me out.
Speaker 6: What was that game with us that you drove the
school bus around? It's like on the window GameCube.
Speaker 2: Twisted metal, twisted bus, twisted metal.
Speaker 3: The hell you have, school Tyler? Maybe?
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Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Training camp is here in the NFL. It's gonna be
here later on in college. But we you know now,
we have actual plays, we have actual uniforms, we have
actual you.
Speaker 3: Know plays to overreact on Twitter.
Speaker 2: We can look at Tyler Shuck and Juwan Johnson and
be like, this throws the reason he's going to be
the starter. Or we can watch him the last play
of a little red zone period, do an RPO throw
it out of the back of the end zone and
not a offensive player inside. We'd be like, he's never
gonna win the job. That's what we do here in
training camp. But it is nice to kind of have
some plays in front of you, to have like actual
football in front of you, and look, the quarterback battle
is gonna probably be one that goes down all the
way to you know that last week at training camp,
I would say we're probably three weeks away from knowing
who the starter is going to be. And I know,
like Spencer Ratler, he had a big couple of days
in a row and you know the word is and again,
if you want to find any Saints information, I mean,
Ross Shackson absolutely the best Louisiana sports dot Net. He's
got a couple of articles up but one talking about
the quarterback position. And Tyler Shuck's been you know, He's
made some throws, he's had some moments. But it does
feel like right now, Matt, that Spencer Ratler is a
little bit ahead of where he's at.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think everybody you know, including Nick coming on the
show every way for for weeks and weeks and weeks,
has been kind of saying that he believes that Tyler
Shuck is the guy that's going to be the Week
one starter, which absolutely still could be the case. And
we're going to overreact to everything all every single or
every single morsel of information or footage that comes out
of Saints training and everybody's going to try to overanalyze
and make decisions based on that. But I believe, and
we've we've talked about, I believe that Spencer Rattler has
an opportunity and the chance, and the skill set and
the mature I think he's got a mature mind as well.
I think he's got the ability to actually be a
really good NFL football player. Now, it might not be
with the Saints' long term because obviously Kellen Moore in company,
they have chosen Chuck, they chose him, they decided to
draft him, even with Spencer on the roster.
Speaker 3: But they're both really young guys.
Speaker 6: But I do believe that the experience that Spencer, whether
it wasn't great obviously, but it's not. It did not
rest on Spencer's Spencer Ratler's shoulders on why it wasn't
great last year, But that experience that he can draw
back on gives him a huge advantage early in the
season and in training camp. But that doesn't mean if
he starts Week one that he's going to be the
starter for seventeen games.
Speaker 3: We don't know that we hope that's the case.
Speaker 6: But you know, as of right now, I mean, there's
no way to know who's going to be under center
Week one of the NFL football season, but I believe
that Spencer Ratler probably. I think they both have a
chance to be really good. And I think what we've
seen as for for all Saints fans is really positive,
Like there's no bad news coming from these players. Like, man,
these yeah, these guys look like they're drowning out there.
They're you know, not hitting their check downs there. It's
not looking good. No, it's like both these guys are
playing really well. They're they're playing good football. They're making
everything that you hear is positive. So you got two
young quarterbacks that are seemingly playing really well.
Speaker 3: Nothing's too big for them.
Speaker 6: And oh yeah, they have a plethora of offensive minded
coaches who have proven track records of running good, powerful
offenses that score a lot of points.
Speaker 3: Not bad man.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited about watching these quarterbacks. I'm just about
watching both them. I think they both have the opportunity
to be really good.
Speaker 6: But if I'm having to put a dollar on who's
going to take the first snap, I'm putting on Ratler, and.
Speaker 3: It does seem like he's the leader in the clubhouse.
And I'm like to take a little OTV vote maybe
see I don't know if I'm biased in my answer.
Speaker 2: Wow, Spencer Ratler and those cards are really crazy spensive value.
Speaker 6: And I and I say all that, I give my opinion.
I would didn't even think about the cards. Look at
you because I'm because I invested in these cards because
of my opinion.
Speaker 2: All jokes aside, like I really enjoyed getting to know
him a little bit at the Senior Bowl a couple
of years ago. It is somebody that I had this
preconceived notion a little bit of the Netflix show, even
though she bemers like, hey that ain't that ain't who
this guy is.
Speaker 3: And look, it's hard to wash it from your memory.
It is very hard.
Speaker 2: But if any of us had a camera in front
of us at seventeen years old and look as someone
who has appeared on the Bachelor and as a contestant
as a home that my home was the hometown visit
and what those producers want you to say, tell you
to say, how they cut it up, mix it up right,
like yeah, it's not real, it's not reality television, and
so again like I'm gonna give you a pass when
you're seventeen years old.
Speaker 3: But he was imagine.
Speaker 6: Awesome at the Senior Boy seventeen years old and they're
like all right, we're gonna go and an idiot. You're
already doing a competitive thing at with the testosterone pumping
through your body and they have a camera and they're
like be entertaining, like go all out.
Speaker 3: Just do you know? Do you like times five? Yeah?
So that's what we all thought of Spencer Ratler.
Speaker 2: But again having conversations with Shane Biemer, he's like that
that's not who this guy is and talked about just
his leadership and who he was as a person as well,
So like, get that out of your kind of mind
when you're talking about being a starter.
Speaker 3: So I do think it is Spencer Ratler right now.
Speaker 2: And Ross did a fantastic job on his Louisiana Sports
dot Net article of breaking down the passing stats so
far this camp. Spencer Ratler twenty five of twenty nine
two passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown, one interception, Tyler Shuck
eleven of twenty two passing touchdowns. Jake Hayner fifteen of
twenty three one passing touchdown. We've all kind of assumed
it is Spencer Rattler versus Tyler Shuck Jake Hayner get
into this conversation at all.
Speaker 3: No, he's just fighting.
Speaker 6: I mean, I actually think when he came in a
couple of times last year, he did some nice things
when he came in at the back end of the game.
But no, I mean I don't think so. I mean,
you got a guy that who's playing really well in
Spencer Ratler in the second round pick. I don't think
Jay Cayner comes into the equation unless there's an injury
or or somebody just starts looking really bad.
Speaker 2: Right and oddly enough, I mean, Jake was a fourth
round pick. Spencer was a fifth round PICKU Vinci Rattler.
I think there was there's a lot of different things.
It was, you know, he fell into the is he
big enough to be able to do it? But there
was at one point like he was going to be
a first round pick when he was Yeah, when he
remember Taylor, you remember like when he was at Oklahoma
when he became the starter. If he would have had
a good year that year, like he was on his
way to being a top quarterback.
Speaker 3: It was the the.
Speaker 5: First game of the year against Oklahoma's first start, I
think it was, and they played some you know, small
school and he had like six touchdowns only three end completions.
Speaker 6: And no we're talking about the hype train was rolling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, I do remember this.
Speaker 2: I was wondering, like Jake Hater, first round started for Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Spencer Rould, Okay, yeah, you got it. Oh for sure,
there's no doubt. Then the wheels kind of fell off
a little bit.
Speaker 2: He got replaced by Caleb Williams end up being number
one overall pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I mean I say all that to just say
he's he's been in that conversation before, like that talent
is in his body like that, the belief that NFL
gms and execs had about him at Oklahoma like that
is in there, and now that's what West coaches to have.
Speaker 3: To be able to get it out. He got first
round arm talent. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6: It's always kind of like the mindset, the consistency. And
I was super impressed watching him his last year at
South Carolina play.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I watched him and I was like, I like
this guy.
Speaker 2: He's got something to him. He's got something to him,
He's competitive. I think I think he could be good.
I don't know how many ways to say it, but
I think he can be good. Now again, he's fighting
uphill battle with the roster, brand new coach, everything like that.
Right now, I know we got to go to Brave.
We've got Benny Logan, But at some point, I do
want to come back because you beat at a second
round pick your year, like y'all were drafted in the
same year, and I want to just go through that
process of what that was like for you, how much
maybe extra you felt like you had to do because
of his like draft capital and what they had in
him compared to what they had into you, and kind
of what that situation was like.
Speaker 3: So I definitely want to put a pin in that
come back to that.
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Speaker 1: Tigers turntalkers, this is off the bench.
Speaker 3: I'm a month.
Speaker 9: Seven good and hold yeah right, checking that behind my back.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Welcome back an OGB one O four five ESPN Baton Rouge.
Very excited for our next guest, our guy Benny Logan,
former LSU NFL defensive tackle, proud number eighteen as well.
Speaker 3: Benny, what's going on?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 8: What's going on? My three one eight brother? I'm doing good?
How are you a doing? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We were doing fantastic.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, my man, Benny, and he's gonna get mad
at me, but nothing like when you roll into Benny's
hometown and he's got a sign that.
Speaker 3: Says home of Benny Logan three one.
Speaker 8: Great my man, hey man, a crew man, you know,
come from there. So definitely definitely a great day.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Benny.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to have you on because I feel
like defensive tackle for LSU this year is going to
be massive, and it's a position that when you were
in school, when Flynn and I were in school, it
was dominant. It had NFL guys every single year, not
just like roster guys, but like starters in the NFL.
And they went and got a coach that we all
believe in and Kyle Williams. But that position to me
feels like it's got to get back to what it
used to be for LSU to go to where they
want to go, which is play for championships.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 8: Definitely, that's one thing I can attest to, just the
depth of the defensive line and just having guys up front,
especially going into conference play. Actually tell guys just all
the time, like we was very blissed when we got
the LAU we got there with Drake Nevis and pep Leviston,
al Woods talls out of darn, Like these are veteran
guys who showed us what it was to be a Tiger,
how to be a Tiger, house, to be a young man.
So now going into this year, like you got experienced
there as far as players, you edit guys from the
transport porter like that is gonna be key. You got
some young guys. I feel like, who's gonna have to
step up in the fire early and just establish stuff.
And I feel like they're ready, but up front on
both sides of the ball. That's gonna be key this
season for sure.
Speaker 2: So, Benny, you always talk about like running back, I
feel like is maybe the easiest position to go from
high school to you know, your freshman year being pactful.
It's like you can either run the football or you can't.
And it's pretty plain and simple. Now quarterback like Flynn play,
that's a completely different situation.
Speaker 3: You mentioned some young guys.
Speaker 2: On that defensive line, and you're right, like they got
some five star talented guys that are either going to
be a true sophomore or a true freshman. When you're
trying to play at that young age on the defensive
line in the interior of the defensive line, what are
some challenges that young players always face.
Speaker 8: Uh, the one thing I would say would be technique.
You know, you go from so long being the most
talented dominique guy and once you get into college, you
got guys who are the same level. But what's the
difference in who's able to maintain their technique? To Logan,
So being a young guy, it just relying on your
technique more than talent, and that's something you got to
continue to work day in and day out. Especially those
young guy going to be put in a situation where
they have to learn and stuff now and just not
panning like take a day at a time. But the
technique is going to be the key thing for them this.
They have talent, like I'd have been in a couple
of practice. The talent there, the size there, the ability
is there is just the technique is because what's going
to be critical for them just maintaining sustaining in like
a good year, just putting in a situation where they're
going to have to play this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Betty, when you're trying to break in a brand
new defensive line and there are question marks, but you
have talent, like you said, you have numbers. And Jake
just made the comparison to running backs because I think
there's a lot of similarities there from a mindset. You
hear the running back by committee, but it is one
way to get the most out of a new defensive line,
like kind of like we have, is to get them
all to the point where you're rotating a man to
keep fresh right because like defense, you can make a mistake,
but as long as you're making one hundred percent, it
can turn out okay. So is that kind of what
LSU should be trying to do. Let's get the numbers
and let's not try to get dominant two or three.
Let's get five, six, seven that are that are really good.
Speaker 8: That is a good thing. If you got a rotation
or defensive linement that you can roll with throughout the season.
One that helps you sustain throughout the year with depth
and having guys from injury and things like that, and
also present a change of offensive line. When you're just
going to get one guy throughout the whole game, you
pretty much know what he's doing. But when you got
to constant rotation of guys coming in, it's a different strategy.
You have to just so like I look at Georgia,
like I always like watching football and watch the defensive
line a sc like when Georgia and those teams rotate,
you get four new guys coming in who fresh off
the pitch. And I remember my coach always told me,
Brick Hayley, like our backup guys has to be just
like I was started, where there's no drop off. And
I think with rotation you'll build it because you'll have
guys with fresher and just the rotation of that, well,
you have guys who are instead of trying to catch
a break for a fresh and rented roll And like
I said, you got given guys there who are home
free and just let him loose like that is gonna
be a key with the defensive line up front and
just rotation in depth.
Speaker 2: And Benny I mentioned it a little bit earlier. I'm
fired up to have Kyle Williams back.
Speaker 3: That was Flynn. I mean he was our teammate.
Speaker 2: I know, I think for three years with Flynn, two
years with me, uh, an incredible teammate.
Speaker 3: Then you saw what he did in the NFL. He's
an all pro guy.
Speaker 2: Like, if you can't listen to that guy, and if
that guy can't get you motivated, then you don't need
to be wearing purple and gold.
Speaker 8: You don't. I'm gonna speak on my experience, like I
remember Kyle when I got into the league at thirteen,
just deck tell me about Colin, just watching Colin play,
even going into different games we played Buffalo and Kyle
being on the Scolen rep the defensive I'm from LSU,
A guy who I know is part of the D
line tree. That was great for me. And to have
him here coaching and Luisa and a native here like
bringing back giving back to the kids I got thirteen years.
Like if I can't listen to a guy that not
just played it's one thing to play, but start thirteen
years in the league, like he knows something he's done
something right. So you have that piece that you have
to utilize it. And that would be my biggest thing
to all the players there. You have a goal minder,
like use it up. Take advantage of a guy that
not only had experience, have a knowledge just about the game,
about life, about the next level. Take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, Betty.
Speaker 6: So I'm thinking about when you played and you were
the number eighteen.
Speaker 3: You were you were a dominant force when.
Speaker 6: You played at a time where LSU defense was as
a unit a dominant force. But at the time offense
kind of struggled, but the defense kept us as like
that was just we were known for defense, right keeping. Yeah,
the guys a little point.
Speaker 3: You can say it. We scored fourteen points, you felt
good about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you cross the fifty whatever. But like, but things
have changed a little bit now. And I know it's
kind of like it's had to kill you the last
couple of years watching because the offense has been really
good and it's the defense that's been the question mark.
So knowing that where we've kind of been the last
couple of handful of years, like, what is like a
realistic expectation that LSU fans that you feel that the
defense can set for this season.
Speaker 8: I could really speak highly on the defense, and I
almost speak on my head because you got guys who
are used to this system. Now it's not that they
coming in with a new system. And you also got
new guys who'll come in and learn this system. You
got guys who are familiar with this system, who understand
their responsibility and roads. And then in the spring where
you get time to really teaching detail that you get
that so knowledge is by plugging guys into it and
play like you know what you need to do. You
know you're supposed to be at Just go and play. Now,
play together as a unit, because again we know we're
gonna have new guys out there. You have veteran guys
who understand the ends and outs of the defense. So
the space stations is the defense has to be ready
to play. The defense have to play simple as that.
I feel like this could be a really good thing
for the defense. But them in the defense, but again,
what are we gonna show when we get out there?
And that goes to the interior, the rotation of the
guys up front, they're gonna lead the way.
Speaker 2: Catching up with a guy Benny Logan here on OTB Benny.
One of the things we've talked about leading into this
opening game against Clemson is else you's treating it a
little bit differently like in years past, and we all
know that and won an open ere since twenty nineteen,
but in years past they haven't really you know, honed
in and talked about like main focus is one game.
You go across the street now and it's like one
to zero and there's Paul Prince for Clemson's logo kind
of on Tiplin dummies and different things, like they are
all in on this one game. I said that I
like that because when you open it up with an
opponent like that, I don't think you need to try
to make it like any other game because it's not.
It's a top five matchup. You need to sprint into
that game, not half step. How do you like that approach?
If not really hiding from it.
Speaker 8: This year, I don't think we hear film at all.
Think most of the time in color colors by surprise,
but I love the focus to understand, like begetting the season,
what we have in front of us. We have a
top five opponent who are still trying to find their feet,
like Clemson hasn't been there in a while, so again,
this is a chance for them to establish their stuff.
The same with us, Like every season we'd hope up,
we struggle, So here this is the focus. Let's start
it off with a good tone, punch him in them off.
I love the energy that's coming off that I think
I've seen one of Clemson player was saying, like we're
gonna show them at this Like I love their edge
and gritted, Like let's get to it, and it's gonna
be going into camp like that is what we're going
to be looking forward to. Anticipation, So it drives the
energy of the game up. But the end of the
day is like, man, this is L s U L
s U. You know. It's like I said, we're a struggle.
But at the end of the day, this game has
been blowing on because of who's playing L s U.
Speaker 3: Yep, I could have grabbed me. I love the whole
death Valley chatter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so predictable and expected, right, and like we'd
be disappointed. We'd be so disappointed if like the players
weren't chirping back and forth about death value.
Speaker 8: Of course, but the thing gives when you hear players,
and you hear commentators, and you hear people talking about
Saturday Night. They talk about Saturday Night and Death Valley.
Speaker 2: Where yeah, right now be before we let you go.
Speaker 3: Are you still coaching over Catholic?
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I'm out here now. Actually I here not watching,
uh getting warmed up watching them get ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah go hit my little brother upside the back of
the head telling him. I said, hello, uh, you know, hey,
I'm gonna have I'm gonna have one starting that you
high this year, so I know we got you on
the schedule, so I have to talk some trash coach.
Speaker 8: So I just hope he's not on the side of Benny.
Speaker 6: You gotta you're you're a fellow big dog lover like myself, Like, what,
how's the dog front?
Speaker 3: We got a couple of them. We got one. We
got one.
Speaker 8: I got a press of Canary, part of the King
Corso family. I got us someone breed out of Philly.
His name is sub Zero.
Speaker 3: They are great, what a great man. I ain't coming
into the house of sub Zero's there.
Speaker 8: He's uh, he's outside in his side. So he's gonna
have a he's a good family dog.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, Benny. I can't thank you enough for
your time many. I know you're out there trying to
coach and probably like the first day of like boot.
Speaker 3: Camp or something like that.
Speaker 2: So it means a lot that you joined us here,
and I'm sure we'll see you across the pond a
roadset of practice or something to look forward to.
Speaker 8: It will do. I appreciate you all have me on
the y'all have a great one.
Speaker 3: All right, you as well, my three one a brothren.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, y'all did have a defensive line of rotation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he didn't say your name, No, Big Faith,
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Speaker 3: That ain't right. That ain't right. It must have.
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Speaker 2: He didn't say it though, I forgot. Flint's kind of
new to our our ribbon on Big Fave. I'm sorry
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Speaker 3: All right, yeah, what does that mean? So he can
real you remember fave count me down? He started five
and in one of his boys would count him down.
Then he get going, all right there, I know your teammates. Geez,
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