Speaker 1: It's the Christmas episode of Inside the Paint, which means
Speaker 1: you can count on us for all the whole Well,
Speaker 1: so much for that. I was hoping that we could
Speaker 1: provide the Holoda each year because Kansas they won, that
Speaker 1: was their biggest margin of victory all season. Surely we
Speaker 1: have to be feeling a little festive or a little happy,
Speaker 1: right A little bit, maybe a little bit.
Speaker 2: I mean, so where I'm at right now, we got
Speaker 2: a lot of snow, So that makes up for anything
Speaker 2: Jalen Daniels football related in Kansas basketball related. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's Christmas time. We're delivering the goods. We're like Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: That's a bell ringing, that's like a literal like a
Speaker 1: bell hop. Okay, I was thinking, like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find a bell's ring sound effect you do have in
Speaker 1: your notes here. If you're listening to this on Christmas morning,
Speaker 1: then Santa has already gotten to your destination and left.
Speaker 1: As long as you're a very good a good boy
Speaker 1: or girl. That the people who angry tweet Rock Chalk
Speaker 1: Blog that Hunter Dickinson sucks might be getting some coal
Speaker 1: when they're stocking this year. But hopefully, as you alluded
Speaker 1: to in your notes. Hopefully Santa is very very careful
Speaker 1: when he goes over the Middle East, because you know,
Speaker 1: you'd hate to have Santa Claus getting shot down in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night by somebody over the Serie
Speaker 1: or Israel regions. Yeah.
Speaker 2: According to the Santa Tracker website, which is kind of
Speaker 2: like college basketball Reference, but just for Santa Claus, he's
Speaker 2: left the North Pole, which means he's about five hours
Speaker 2: roughly until he shot out of Israeli airspace. By the IDF,
Speaker 2: We've got a status update on Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
Speaker 2: He's been replaced by a non Dei hire and Bob Hankins,
Speaker 2: who has had six Gen and Tonics. We're hoping for
Speaker 2: sobriety check this season while in the air. Secondly, Santa
Speaker 2: decided to suspend meal service from this year's flight due
Speaker 2: to unmarked drones patrolling the airwaves. One of these drones
Speaker 2: is said to be captain by kJ Adams, which means
Speaker 2: it will come nowhere close to hitting its target, but
Speaker 2: it will have a ten yure battery life, leading to
Speaker 2: international strength. Last, but not least, from your inside of
Speaker 2: the Paint monologue, Bill self bought all of his player's
Speaker 2: Christmas gifts, aside from aj Store, who he shipped to
Speaker 2: the front lines of Ukraine. Happy Holidays from inside the
Speaker 2: Paint with your two mentally ill co hosts.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like how it's just a too
Speaker 1: mentally ill co host today because Landa's on load management
Speaker 1: once again. Uh, Lanta came over the other day, so
Speaker 1: a Landon story for you. He brought, he brought me
Speaker 1: and as a surprise he did as a surprise Christmas
Speaker 1: gift a Terry's chocolate, big orange chocolate piece. After we
Speaker 1: were talking about how they sponsored the Duke game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was funny and I was I was giving him
Speaker 1: the business when he was over here. I said, yeah, Uh,
Speaker 1: Landon's decided that he's just on load management and unlike Cam,
Speaker 1: who's very loyal and does all the episodes, and Landa
Speaker 1: just kind of smirked and said, oh, he'll get there.
Speaker 1: I remember my first season, So Cam, your perfect attendance
Speaker 1: is going strong.
Speaker 2: It is my my conspiracy theories that we've never seen
Speaker 2: Santa Claus and Landon Fields in the same room together.
Speaker 1: So like there's a chance that is why he's not here.
Speaker 1: That's funny. So the Santa Tracker, it's funny that you
Speaker 1: bring that up, because let me tell you the damage
Speaker 1: that the Santa Tracker did to me as a child.
Speaker 1: I was such a I was a I was a
Speaker 1: pretty smart kid, but I was all about the facts
Speaker 1: and the data. So I'm like six years old and
Speaker 1: on the news they're like, okay, kids, you better get
Speaker 1: to bed because I've gotten word that Santa Claus is
Speaker 1: crossing the ocean, and I'm doing the math, like, okay,
Speaker 1: well it's ten o'clock. He still has work to do,
Speaker 1: like in England and France and in that area before
Speaker 1: he gets over here. And then you'd have the songs
Speaker 1: that are like at exactly midnight, Santa will get here,
Speaker 1: and all the TV hosts are telling us like, if
Speaker 1: you're not asleep, then Santa will skip your house. And
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm running the numbers and crunching the analytics
Speaker 1: on this, like like trying to figure out what Kansas
Speaker 1: is optimal starting five is, and it legitimately terrified me.
Speaker 1: I had meltdowns on Christmas Eve about like calculating if
Speaker 1: I'm getting closer to the time that Santa would have
Speaker 1: to be here, so those Santa Tracker websites can do
Speaker 1: some damage, sir.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's pretty on brand for you. I actually
Speaker 2: had a kid in elementary school that was like trying
Speaker 2: to convince me I was I was on brand as well.
Speaker 2: I was a skeptic, and he was like using that
Speaker 2: website as definitive proof for the existence of said clause.
Speaker 2: And but yeah, I never I never got into it
Speaker 2: that much. But I tried to do the math in
Speaker 2: my head a little bit. And then I'd hear something
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and be like, it's him,
Speaker 2: he's here, it's him. To get up, and it was
Speaker 2: like my father in his underwear, like doing something with
Speaker 2: a gift.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what's going on? Man? Well, and I
Speaker 1: was so terrified that that, like you had to wait
Speaker 1: until Christmas morning to find out if you were on
Speaker 1: the nice or the naughty list. And like I thought
Speaker 1: I was a good kid, Like I was like I
Speaker 1: didn't like to beat up anybody or call people names.
Speaker 1: But you never knew for sure because I would hear
Speaker 1: that as leverage to behave, Oh you better behave, or
Speaker 1: Sannah won't come here? Is there every do you think
Speaker 1: he's ever been a kid whose parents were like trying
Speaker 1: to prove a point and then they ended up on
Speaker 1: the Naughty List?
Speaker 2: Like, is that is that happened in history?
Speaker 1: Legitimately wound up getting them on the naughty list? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's possible that you can
Speaker 1: go on the naughty list trying to get others to
Speaker 1: get there. It's kind of like in the NFL. How
Speaker 1: if you like throw a punch and then the other
Speaker 1: guy retaliates, it's the second guy that always gets caught.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I definitely think that that could be a thing. And
Speaker 1: and yeah, if you don't. The magic of Christmas is
Speaker 1: I'm thirty years old and I'm still I still have
Speaker 1: to pop Benagerl on Christmas Eve legitimately false because I'm
Speaker 1: so excited about Christmas. Super Bowl it is it is,
Speaker 1: It's like the super Bowl and now next week is
Speaker 1: the is the hangover phase when I have to take
Speaker 1: everything down and oh my, that's a time. This is
Speaker 1: inside the paint. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. I am Ryan
Speaker 1: Landrith and I am Yeah, we'll just go with my name.
Speaker 1: I'm Cam. You're not Landing, that's uh, you are. You're
Speaker 1: not taking days off, because on this show, just like
Speaker 1: with Bill self and kJ Adams, we don't take days off.
Speaker 1: So here's what we're gonna do on this show. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Brown, which is as exciting as well
Speaker 1: the name Brown suggests. There really isn't a lot of
Speaker 1: other games. We're gonna do some asscarcb's and then we're
Speaker 1: not really gonna worry about a Kansas preview because the
Speaker 1: three of us will come back in later this week
Speaker 1: to preview to start a Big twelve play. They do
Speaker 1: play West Virginia a week from today, I think a
Speaker 1: week from it's on New Year's Eve, Tuesday at two
Speaker 1: pm game. Yay, But so at that point it's New
Speaker 1: Year's and New Year's Eve is not a federal holiday,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's isn't it New Year's Days on Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Like people have to work on Tuesday. That's horrible. I
Speaker 1: believe that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure, well, yeah, that does actually kind
Speaker 2: of suck now they think about.
Speaker 1: It, because the game is at two o'clock on a Tuesday. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's when they'll open Big twelve play against who who
Speaker 1: even is the coach there? It's it's Tucker to Rye's dad, right,
Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, that's correct. So they have a
Speaker 1: new coach and uh, well we'll get Kansas already for
Speaker 1: them next show, but for now, a little bit shorter
Speaker 1: of a show, we'll recap the game. And yeah, as
Speaker 1: you're driving to your in laws house preparing to discuss
Speaker 1: politics with the person that you really don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about, at least you get at least you get
Speaker 1: inside the paint where we're gonna talk about k J. Adams,
Speaker 1: who we really don't want to talk enjoy times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be great, all right. Number eight Kansas eighty seven,
Speaker 1: Brown fifty three. Can we learned a lot of things
Speaker 1: in this game, or maybe you'll say we didn't, But
Speaker 1: the main thing that we learned is Brown is awful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big fart noise. The lesson that we learned here is
Speaker 1: that Brown absolutely sucks. With respect to Kansas, who did
Speaker 1: play well, especially in the second half. They had their
Speaker 1: biggest victory of the season in terms of score margin.
Speaker 1: Kansas slept walk through the first half. They still led
Speaker 1: by eleven at the break, and then they I don't know,
Speaker 1: I was gone on well whenever I wrote this, they
Speaker 1: did bad things to Brown in the second half. They
Speaker 1: wound up winning by thirty four points. I think that
Speaker 1: if the Jayhawks play an IVY League school in the
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, they might just be okay.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm sure that'll that sound bite would never
Speaker 2: come back to bite this podcast.
Speaker 1: Well, normally the IVY League team is good, especially on defense,
Speaker 1: like they're serviceable. Yeah, Yale was okay. Yale beat Auburn
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: There was a team that Kansas. Oh no, no, it
Speaker 2: was Penn. It was Penn in the year with that
Speaker 2: never happened according to the nca correct that game didn't happen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and everyone was like if there, if you'd been told
Speaker 2: that week that a one seed lost Kansas would have
Speaker 2: been the pick from every single person in the universe.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be Yeah, that was Seth Davis's thing. He
Speaker 1: went on, he picked Pen over Kansas in the bracket.
Speaker 1: I was a yeah, And it wasn't even close. Kansas
Speaker 1: on by twenty. But you're right, the Penn game, Like
Speaker 1: that's an NCAA team. Harvard and Yale have both played
Speaker 1: Kansas at least in the score margin between like six
Speaker 1: to twelve points at Allen field House like, but this
Speaker 1: we we thought this might be a little bit closer
Speaker 1: than it was and it wasn't even a contest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was I always look at these games.
Speaker 2: We talked about this on the last show, but the
Speaker 2: game before Christmas is usually just a complete snooze fest.
Speaker 2: Guys show up lazy, tired. It's closer than it should be.
Speaker 2: No students, not so much. And it was actually pretty
Speaker 2: full from what it looked like. I mean, the students
Speaker 2: still showed up. For whoever was there, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my relatives is a lot I used
Speaker 1: to be on the Sheer squad and they told me
Speaker 1: that they were invited to this game and they were
Speaker 1: comprising the student section. They invited a lot of alumni
Speaker 1: for this contest because with all the students not there
Speaker 1: for winter break, that's who wound up filling the building.
Speaker 1: And it was full. It was a lot more full
Speaker 1: than I thought it'd be. As you said, typically this
Speaker 1: game they struggle getting people in the door. Sometimes the
Speaker 1: weather's real crappy too. It was fine on Sunday, so
Speaker 1: you saw it. I thought the environment was as good
Speaker 1: as you could have hoped, And yeah, you're right. A
Speaker 1: few years ago. For a while there, they always played
Speaker 1: a road game right before Christmas because NCAA rules stated
Speaker 1: that if you played a game, then you are as
Speaker 1: a school allowed to pay for your team to travel,
Speaker 1: so they could pay for them to all go home
Speaker 1: after said game for Christmas. Now WITHINIL everything's changed, so
Speaker 1: they just play a crappy IVY League score right before Christmas.
Speaker 1: And I had a couple of people in the notes
Speaker 1: on Twitter or in the mentions on Twitter tell me
Speaker 1: that I'm wrong for this take, But I'm curious for
Speaker 1: your thoughts. If I could get rid of one game
Speaker 1: on the schedule every year, Cam, it would be the
Speaker 1: IVY League game.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Nothing else really comes to mind.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the other one that you can
Speaker 2: say is the exhibition game. I guess, you know, like Washburn,
Speaker 2: but I think that's cool for Washburn to come play
Speaker 2: in Kansas. This game typically is just so boring. I
Speaker 2: told you guys and in Land and said the same thing.
Speaker 2: Where were like, I don't know if I'm even gonna
Speaker 2: watch this live, and I had to drive home, so
Speaker 2: I didn't really get a chance to watch it. Kind
Speaker 2: of streamed it on the radio. I didn't listen to
Speaker 2: Brian Haney, thankfully, but yeah, but no, I mean probably
Speaker 2: it is this game unless you have some conference game
Speaker 2: in I don't know. I guess Utah, now, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: isn't there I would hate to watch.
Speaker 1: There's definitely a few more big twelve games now that
Speaker 1: could have a hat in the running for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the title of worst game on the schedule. And I
Speaker 1: had to all people saying, like, you know, no, they
Speaker 1: need to tune up against stay. Okay, fine, you want
Speaker 1: to experient with some things. I think Self was doing that.
Speaker 1: And typically the IVY League game is Bill Self isn't
Speaker 1: just isn't just choosing a team out of a hat.
Speaker 1: They are choosing the team that they think can win
Speaker 1: the IVY League because that team usually winds up getting
Speaker 1: a thirteen seed and it looks better than it actually
Speaker 1: is on their metrics. And it did help Kansas and
Speaker 1: Ken Palmon and the net and all that stuff whenever
Speaker 1: you beat a potential NCAA tournament team by you know,
Speaker 1: thirty four or whatever it was. But it's just boring
Speaker 1: and this game was fine. I posted that tweet in
Speaker 1: the first half when it was like eighteen to fourteen
Speaker 1: through twelve minutes, Like typically the Harvard Yale game is
Speaker 1: terrible and it's just not fun to watch. I don't
Speaker 1: care about the numbers. I'm over being told no, it's
Speaker 1: at this thing that's not pleasant to watch. Typically not
Speaker 1: this one, but typically not pleasant to watch and it
Speaker 1: is not fun to experience. Is actually quite needed. Sports
Speaker 1: are for entertainment. I am not interested in watching ugly
Speaker 1: sports games to help give Kansas the better seed here.
Speaker 1: I want entertaining games. I want every game to be
Speaker 1: against the Duke Michigan State Tentucky level team in the
Speaker 1: non con because I think those games are entertaining and
Speaker 1: that's I know the why they can't do that, but
Speaker 1: that's my preference. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, Chris Renald would comparahuting down from the rafters
Speaker 2: with a banner that said net on it right now
Speaker 2: because those games don't satisfy his sexual cravings. Right, Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I can't. Honestly, I was not excited to watch this game.
Speaker 2: I forgot it was even happening until midday on seven.
Speaker 1: One of Sunday games this year? Was it Sunday?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was a Sunday game. That's how much I cared
Speaker 1: it's it's weird. They're playing all these Sunday games now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they play another one in two
Speaker 1: weeks they play Central Florida. The second Big twelve game
Speaker 1: is on a Sunday for some reason. Oh jeez, you
Speaker 1: talked about the net. So Texas Tech the other day
Speaker 1: beat the University of Lamar, who is six and six.
Speaker 1: They beat them by almost fifty They beat them one
Speaker 1: hundred and one to fifty seven, and they went up
Speaker 1: twenty two spots in the net as a result of
Speaker 1: that one. That's such a joke. Yeah it is. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Lamar, you may say six and six
Speaker 1: isn't the worst record I've ever heard in my life. Well,
Speaker 1: they played, though. Two of Lamar's wins are against Paul
Speaker 1: Quinn and Our Lady of the Lake, who are who
Speaker 1: are not D one D two schools either. And so
Speaker 1: this is a team that has beaten D one teams
Speaker 1: A and M Corpus Christie by four ut Rio Grande Valley,
Speaker 1: Louisiana and Southern Mississippi, and beating that team gets you
Speaker 1: to go up twenty plus spots in the net, which
Speaker 1: they do use to help seed in Sea Tournament. Teams.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, your your buddy Chris Reynolds thinks that
Speaker 1: that's a great method. Wow, college basketball is cash bizarre. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's really stupid. Uh. And so I'm glad Kansas isn't
Speaker 1: playing teams like that because I don't need I don't
Speaker 1: need those games at all. Tune ups are fine. You
Speaker 1: can tune up against quality teams. And I guess you
Speaker 1: could maybe say statistically, at least on paper, Brown is
Speaker 1: supposed to be solid, but still just a just a dreadful,
Speaker 1: awful opponent to watch a Sunday afternoon of Kansas basketball against.
Speaker 1: But something that does not suck would be Zeke Mayo
Speaker 1: read all, I want you to tell me all about
Speaker 1: his fantastic showing back to back games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zeke Mayo, who Kansas definitely will not over rely
Speaker 2: on heading into the NCAA tournament, only for him to
Speaker 2: let them down with a bad round of thirty two
Speaker 2: night he had twenty five points, eight rebounds, four assists
Speaker 2: in twenty six minutes. He was ten for fifteen overall,
Speaker 2: went five for eight from three to five for seven
Speaker 2: from two. He kind of reminds us a little bit
Speaker 2: of the player we saw at tournament Remy Martin B.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I don't think we've seen a
Speaker 2: player with his kind of skill set, probably since Malik
Speaker 2: Newman and Devonte gram War at Kansas, which I remember
Speaker 2: Ryan tweeting on Rockshock blog a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I think you are correct. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: that whenever you think of those guys, just the ability
Speaker 1: to create their own shot and also hit jumpers, to
Speaker 1: be able to create their own jump shot. They can
Speaker 1: hit a step back there, They're handling skills are good
Speaker 1: enough to be able to get open, their athleticism is
Speaker 1: enough to create the separation, and then they have the
Speaker 1: finishing ability to finish at the ram or knock down
Speaker 1: a jump shot three different things. Yeah, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: we've seen a player Yeah since that eighteen team. L
Speaker 1: Gerald Vick could do it too. That eighteen team had
Speaker 1: a handful of guys that could do that. And yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, as Latin will tell you, Marcus Garrett was
Speaker 1: very very close. Uh yeah, no, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: badly needed piece. And whenever you look at how guys
Speaker 1: like aj Store and Ryland Griffin haven't quite been what
Speaker 1: we thought they would. Still plenty of time, but they
Speaker 1: would be completely sunk without Zeke Mayo, who we go
Speaker 1: back and forth, there's four different guys that I think
Speaker 1: you could call Kansas's best player depending on the day.
Speaker 1: Uh and Zeke Mayo has probably been their best player
Speaker 1: this year, all things considered. His transition to the Power
Speaker 1: five level has been fantastic. And yeah, you're right, don't
Speaker 1: get too overreliant on him though, because yeah, if he
Speaker 1: goes three for nine in the in the in the
Speaker 1: second round and no one else is hitting shots, then
Speaker 1: that's gonna suck whenever they're depending on him.
Speaker 2: That I mean, the counter points of this or the
Speaker 2: counter argument would be they have more options this year
Speaker 2: on paper, so they should be fine, emphasis on should be,
Speaker 2: But we haven't seen that play out yet, so I
Speaker 2: guess we'll time.
Speaker 1: Time will tell well. And we were worried for a
Speaker 1: while with Zeke Mayo that he went through a stretch
Speaker 1: where he was like one for sixteen shooting threes over
Speaker 1: a three or four game stretch. He's responded by having
Speaker 1: back to back great games and on the season. This
Speaker 1: is a guy who shot thirty eight percent at South
Speaker 1: Dakota State a thirty nine percent rather and he's at
Speaker 1: thirty nine percent right now at Kansas, thirty eight point
Speaker 1: seven percent overall, and this is a guy who's taken
Speaker 1: almost six threes a game that's making thirty nine percent
Speaker 1: of them. Excellent season so far for Zeke Mao, averaging
Speaker 1: fourteen points as a kind of can play the point guard,
Speaker 1: but is primarily the off the ball guy that Dewan Harris,
Speaker 1: who is the big Twelves leader and assist, loves passing
Speaker 1: the ball to. We were worried for a while that
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo was going to struggle to adjust to the
Speaker 1: power five game. His last two games have stabilized them
Speaker 1: through an entire non conference season. He is shooting the
Speaker 1: ball as well as he did last year at South
Speaker 1: Dakota State. Certainly you love to.
Speaker 2: See it, Yeah, one hundred percent. Definitely nice to have
Speaker 2: an actual shot creator for once they can make shots,
Speaker 2: unlike Charlie Moore.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And as far as free throw creation, that is
Speaker 1: still kind of a problem. They took just four free
Speaker 1: throws as a team in the first half, though they
Speaker 1: did finish with fifteen for the game. Started seeing them
Speaker 1: kind of wear down Brown to the point and then
Speaker 1: they got some calls on the second half they end
Speaker 1: non conference play, which is only eleven games now, but
Speaker 1: the non conference late now being done, Kansas is averaging
Speaker 1: nine makes and thirteen attempts per game. Fine percentage, not
Speaker 1: good metrics. Those numbers both rank. The makes and attempts
Speaker 1: per game both rank bottom ten out of three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty five D one teams nationally. Never, of all
Speaker 1: the stats, I didn't think i'd ever see a Bill
Speaker 1: Self Kansas team be at the bottom of the country
Speaker 1: and it's that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bizarre. I have to think that will change
Speaker 2: a little bit over the course of the year. And
Speaker 2: I remember on the broadcast the commentator is saying that
Speaker 2: Bill Self has been harping on this team about getting
Speaker 2: to the free throw line. Not exactly sure why they
Speaker 2: can't do it, but part of it obviously goes with
Speaker 2: the whistler getting Ryan thinks that's kind of a luck thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of that, and then
Speaker 2: also maybe just a little bit of the way the
Speaker 2: team plays this year. But we'll see they need to
Speaker 2: get to the line more though that's not gonna get
Speaker 2: it done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't just sit here and say it's luck.
Speaker 1: Whenever we have a huge sample size of eleven games.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a third of a season, and it's
Speaker 1: definitely not all luck. I do think that the style
Speaker 1: in Big twelve play is a little different. I think
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see typically in Big twelve play, you
Speaker 1: see slower pace, you see fewer possessions per game, and
Speaker 1: therefore more fouls. That kind of seems like that's the trend,
Speaker 1: and maybe it won't be that way because the Big
Speaker 1: twelve VI isit as good defensively as we thought it
Speaker 1: would be. Teams like Arizona and Kansas State have been
Speaker 1: colossal disappointments on the defensive end of the ball this year,
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping that it improves. But what also frustrates
Speaker 1: me is this team is good shooting free throws. Zeke Mayo,
Speaker 1: AJ Store, Ryland Griffin all eighty percent career free throw shooters.
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson is your worst free throw shooter of your
Speaker 1: primary ones, and he's a seventy five percent career guy, Like,
Speaker 1: this is a team that you want shooting more. And
Speaker 1: I'm reading now your notes. Yeah it's you can read
Speaker 1: it out loud. We can read whatever out loud. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the frustrating part. This team can make free throws,
Speaker 1: they just refuse to get to the line. Maybe what
Speaker 1: we saw in the second half will lead to better things,
Speaker 1: But if they're going to get to that free throw line,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be their bigs. And in this game
Speaker 1: we saw the big Yeah, they didn't get to the line,
Speaker 1: but they sure they sure as hell dominated an underwhelming
Speaker 1: front court.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunter Dickinson continued to do Hunter Dickinson things. He
Speaker 2: had fifteen and thirteen points in just twenty four minutes,
Speaker 2: ironically keeping him under the thirty minute mark that Billsoff
Speaker 2: talked about at the start of the year. Granted Missus Brown,
Speaker 2: he really wasn't that sharp. From the Florida went six
Speaker 2: for fourteen as backups also played well. Florida Baduna had
Speaker 2: eight and six and fourteen minutes, including off the backboard
Speaker 2: alley slam. That was a nice touch from Was that
Speaker 2: was that pass more than through that?
Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was quite Yeah
Speaker 1: at the very end, I think yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they combined to block five shots. Overall, a really
Speaker 2: good game for both of them.
Speaker 1: So I had somebody on Twitter point out that Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson's numbers are worse than they were last year, and
Speaker 1: on a per game basis they are. However, he's playing
Speaker 1: less and that's the problem with those stats. Last year
Speaker 1: averaged eighteen and eleven. This year is averaging fifteen to ten.
Speaker 1: But he's playing five minutes a game less, which, as
Speaker 1: you said, Bill self said he wanted to get him
Speaker 1: under thirty minutes a game. He's gonna play more in
Speaker 1: the conference games that tend to be closer, there won't
Speaker 1: be as many opportunities to rest him. But this year,
Speaker 1: playing twenty seven minutes a game, his per forty numbers
Speaker 1: are the best that they've been at Kansas twenty three
Speaker 1: and fifteen are his per forty numbers last year twenty
Speaker 1: two and fourteen. However, again, the quality of the opponent's
Speaker 1: about to go up that will play in there. I
Speaker 1: think Hunter Dickinson is better this year than he was
Speaker 1: last year. He's shooting the three ball better and almost better.
Speaker 1: Undoubtedly will shoot the three ball weather and conference play
Speaker 1: than he did compared to last year. But he's a
Speaker 1: guy who in twenty seven minutes a game is averaging
Speaker 1: almost sixteen points, ten rebounds. He's averaging more blocks than
Speaker 1: he did last year. He's better on the defensive end
Speaker 1: than he was last year, more assists, which isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: because he got better. It's because guys are making shots now.
Speaker 1: He's a better free throw shooter than he was last year.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see I think he's going
Speaker 1: to win Big Twelve Player of the Year. I think
Speaker 1: he's the best player in this conference, and I think
Speaker 1: they're going to his usage will go up and Big
Speaker 1: Twelve play and Flori Florie's for forty numbers are twenty
Speaker 1: and sixteen while shooting over eighty percent from the floor.
Speaker 1: He has dominated statistically in his time. Again against the competition.
Speaker 1: The defense has been rough against some of the better
Speaker 1: names they've played, but you gotta feel good about the
Speaker 1: front court. They have a little bit of depth there
Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. And I think
Speaker 1: Dickinson is about to have I think he's going to
Speaker 1: have the best statistical season that any big has had
Speaker 1: under Bill self, maybe Robinson, yeah, but other than that,
Speaker 1: he's on pace.
Speaker 2: Probably he might be. Honestly, he might be better than Thomas Robinson.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, just for a second, take yourself down
Speaker 2: the dark cellar here if Hunter Dickinson is the token
Speaker 2: cas this big man that gets like at the injury
Speaker 2: right before the Big twelve tournament.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it'll imagine it'll And that happened last year
Speaker 1: when he ripped his shoulder out of his socket in
Speaker 1: the final game of the season. Somehow played like a
Speaker 1: week later in the NCAA tournament and had Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then he goes out in the NCAA tournament, has a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty game and leads them in scoring the next
Speaker 1: game against Gonzaga, which I know he didn't play well
Speaker 1: in that, but still the guy played fine in the
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament all things considered, on a dislocated shoulder. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson is one of those players that I obviously
Speaker 1: have had a very high opinion of some of you
Speaker 1: and and at least relative to the a lot of
Speaker 1: the Rock Chalk Blog follows. I don't think Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 1: is going to truly be appreciated until they either win
Speaker 1: it all or until he's not here anymore. And you
Speaker 1: see what it looks like with Adham. Yeah, we've seen
Speaker 1: that before.
Speaker 2: Not great, also not great, I guess interesting kJ kJ
Speaker 2: Adams had a really interesting game. He went zero for
Speaker 2: three in the first half with zero points against Brown.
Speaker 2: He then opened the second half of two immediate baskets.
Speaker 2: If there's ten total points in Kansas played a lot better.
Speaker 1: He was four for eight.
Speaker 2: He led a team with twenty nine minutes insert gunshots
Speaker 2: sound too temple. Do you believe that as far as
Speaker 2: kJ goes, KU goes.
Speaker 1: Yes, but not in the way that a lot of
Speaker 1: people think. If he's going to pace them in minutes,
Speaker 1: then yes, to a certain extent. That has to be
Speaker 1: true because he's out there the most. He also led
Speaker 1: them in plus minus in this game, which is a
Speaker 1: stat that I like more than most, and I think
Speaker 1: that's quite telling. He led them in plus minus in
Speaker 1: the first half too, despite despite not scoring. I think
Speaker 1: that kJ has a lot of value on this team.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a start thing or not. I think that they should
Speaker 1: play through other guys first, but I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: still holding on to hope that that Bill self will
Speaker 1: eventually play the four out lineup more. But I just
Speaker 1: don't think he's that interested in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, once aj Store gets back from Ukraine,
Speaker 2: hopefully he makes it back, we might see some that.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this though. It's like kJ
Speaker 2: is a good player. He is a really good basketball player,
Speaker 2: but this is this is the type of game where
Speaker 2: he should on paper be really good.
Speaker 1: It's brown, right, you know.
Speaker 2: And he's had great games against like Duke was great.
Speaker 2: He was awesome against Duke. He was largely the reason
Speaker 2: Kansas won that game. Yeah, I mean, we'll see. It's
Speaker 2: it's matchup dependent. I still want to see four guards
Speaker 2: or four round one, but Bill self doesn't he knows better.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the reason that kJ is playing
Speaker 1: so much and the reason we're not seeing the four
Speaker 1: guard lineup as much as any of us thought. Do
Speaker 1: you think that's because Self loves kJ? Or do you
Speaker 1: think that's because Self doesn't trust the four guard lineup?
Speaker 2: I think it's Well, here's here's my theory. I think
Speaker 2: Self knows that the team's best chance of winning the
Speaker 2: title is with that for around one lineup. I also
Speaker 2: think that he might have to reduce kj's minutes in
Speaker 2: conference play, and so he might be trying to get
Speaker 2: him more run ahead of conference play, where if he
Speaker 2: takes him out in conference time, it's not like, hey,
Speaker 2: he's a fifth year senior whatever, and he's not playing
Speaker 2: as much. I could be wrong, but that's kind of
Speaker 2: where I'm I'm thinking we'll see I agree.
Speaker 1: I think that he knows that the Foreguard lineup is
Speaker 1: a minimum of weapon that you're gonna have to pull
Speaker 1: out in certain matchups. That's the minimum expectation. The maximum
Speaker 1: is it should be the lineup they run. But as
Speaker 1: much as I want them to run the Foreguard lineup,
Speaker 1: and I still would run that more than I would
Speaker 1: run a lineup with kJ, I would if I was
Speaker 1: the coach, I also am not seeing practice. I it's
Speaker 1: definitely fair to say that guys like aj Store and
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin, who are integral parts to that Foreguard lineup
Speaker 1: we all want, they haven't shown the things that you
Speaker 1: really want to see for Bill Salt to say, all right,
Speaker 1: this is my lineup, let's ride. Ryland Griffin hasn't been
Speaker 1: consistent at all, and aj Store, i'llbeit better in this game.
Speaker 1: He hasn't shown. kJ Adams been better than both of
Speaker 1: those guys this year by a mile. Like, as much
Speaker 1: as we want less kJ and more of those guys,
Speaker 1: Kj's been the better player and I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that close.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's that close either. And I
Speaker 2: also wonder at times, like the Ryland Griffin fit on
Speaker 2: this team, it may just not be a great fit
Speaker 2: for him. On paper, it should be, but you know,
Speaker 2: like just watching the game, you see him getting some looks,
Speaker 2: but they're never really great looks. They're kind of transition jumpers,
Speaker 2: which I guess kind of is Alabama ask But I'm
Speaker 2: just curious if it's a good fit, if he'll figure
Speaker 2: it out. Same thing with the AJ Store. I think
Speaker 2: he's kind of in the doghouse from what I can guess,
Speaker 2: But yeah, kJ has been way better than both of them.
Speaker 2: I just think it's a floor ceiling argument, and I
Speaker 2: feel like Kansas is a ceiling with that four guard
Speaker 2: lineup is higher than the floor would be well obviously
Speaker 2: the floor, but they're ceiling with kJ playing the most minutes,
Speaker 2: you know, as the floor.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think the four guard lineup
Speaker 1: is the ceiling because we know what kJ is and
Speaker 1: we know the ceiling has to be better than anything
Speaker 1: but really good kJ lineups. But I hope that the
Speaker 1: pieces that they have, like the two things can they're
Speaker 1: different things. The four guard lineup is the best thing
Speaker 1: for this team to succeed is one thing. The pieces
Speaker 1: on this team running said four guard lineup being the
Speaker 1: best lineup, that's something else. And I'm gonna blame the
Speaker 1: coaching if Ryland Griffin doesn't work, because Ryland Griffin's a
Speaker 1: thirty nine percent three point shooter. He's an athletic long
Speaker 1: wing who can sit in the corner and nail every
Speaker 1: three you throw at him. Whenever you have an elite
Speaker 1: passing point guard and an elite passing seven footer in
Speaker 1: the middle, they should be able to make that piece work.
Speaker 1: We saw Nick Timberlake not be as good as we
Speaker 1: thought he would be. We saw Marco Jackson not be
Speaker 1: as good as we thought he would be. We saw
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown not be as good as we thought he
Speaker 1: would be. And as good as Isaiah Moss has perceived
Speaker 1: to be, the man shot less than thirty five percent
Speaker 1: from three on the season. Jalen coleman Lands was the
Speaker 1: best shooter of any of these transfers that they brought
Speaker 1: into be these three point specialists, and he barely played
Speaker 1: down the stretch. The man played two minutes in the
Speaker 1: National Title game. So whenever I look at all these pieces,
Speaker 1: they are bringing in guys who are successful shooters at
Speaker 1: other high level programs. Charlie Moore and a guy like
Speaker 1: Charlie Moore and a guy like Zeq Mao didn't play
Speaker 1: at a higher at a high level. Ryland Griffin played
Speaker 1: on a Final four team. You have Isaiah Moss played
Speaker 1: at Iowa who is an NCAA tournament team. Jalen Coleman
Speaker 1: Lands played at Iowa State, who is a tournament team.
Speaker 1: These are pieces that you should be able to plug
Speaker 1: in and see success from. And we have like seven
Speaker 1: or eight guys that they brought into be shooter, and
Speaker 1: I throw Remy in there too. They couldn't figure Remy
Speaker 1: out either, and that was perplexing. You have seven or
Speaker 1: out guys. It was Yeah, and then Remy just being
Speaker 1: a really good player. It worked in the NCAA tournament
Speaker 1: because of Yeah, more than anything else. Pure When you're
Speaker 1: bringing in seven or eight guys to be three point
Speaker 1: shooters over the course of half a decade and you're
Speaker 1: struggling to get more than a couple of them going,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have a Ryland Griffin hasn't been great,
Speaker 1: but he's following in the same footsteps as a lot
Speaker 1: of other guys that we've seen here, and he had
Speaker 1: easily the quote safest floor of any of them because
Speaker 1: he started on a Final four team. Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 2: It's we we talked about this last time. Could be
Speaker 2: the conspiracy of Bill Self as a very hard coach
Speaker 2: to please and players maybe it gets in their head
Speaker 2: a little bit like transferring in and trying, you know,
Speaker 2: you feel like you have to prove yourself in a
Speaker 2: new school.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer is, but I do
Speaker 2: think Ryland Griffin will figure it out. I think he's
Speaker 2: two good nons too. I think he's the best pro
Speaker 2: prospect from just a pure intangible standpoint. He's a long
Speaker 2: wing that can shoot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll see well and right. In this game specifically,
Speaker 1: Griffin had seven points and three rebounds in sixteen minutes.
Speaker 1: He did a couple of good things and then got
Speaker 1: drilled in the face and left early. Self said that
Speaker 1: he'll be fine, especially after getting it was officially an
Speaker 1: eye injury, Self said, And it looks like that he
Speaker 1: will be just fine going forth, Bill Self said. The
Speaker 1: ipatch sent him in there. Yeah, yeah, that would look
Speaker 1: cool too, give him a give him the George Santos
Speaker 1: eye patch and one eye dead. I ran and let him. Hey,
Speaker 1: at least it would match how he has. He only
Speaker 1: plays hand full of minutes a game this year, Griffin
Speaker 1: is averaging just seven points and three rebounds, and he's
Speaker 1: barely shooting a third of his threees going in the
Speaker 1: basket thirty three percent. Uh. Yeah, it hasn't been what
Speaker 1: we thought, but I think that, you know, we know
Speaker 1: that the skills there. Aj Storer had nine to five
Speaker 1: and twenty minutes. He did some good things while going
Speaker 1: three for eight from the floor. It also left us wondering,
Speaker 1: is this just because he's the best athlete that is
Speaker 1: going to play against Brown all year? David Koit and
Speaker 1: Dwan Harris, we're both quiet. Statistically, they both made one
Speaker 1: singular basket in their seventeen and twenty four respective minutes.
Speaker 1: Harris still pacing the big twelve and assists. I think
Speaker 1: that I'm more worried about aj store than Rylan Griffin,
Speaker 1: even though I think Storre's probably been better than and
Speaker 1: then Griffin this year. Because Griffin's role is clear and
Speaker 1: because of his shooting, he's always gonna get run. I
Speaker 1: think Self is going to have moments where he just says,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like playing Aj because he doesn't practice
Speaker 1: defense enough.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly it. AJ Storre is like a
Speaker 2: he's like a Kevin McCuller, but a really poorly fitting
Speaker 2: Kevin McCuller on this team.
Speaker 1: Kind of like positionally why is Yeah, I would agree
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, he's a guy that you feel like
Speaker 1: than he is and is a downhill driver. But McCuller
Speaker 1: was obviously a good defender. A J. Storer has not
Speaker 1: been that good. And look at how different Bill self
Speaker 1: has treated both of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who else was a downhill driver? Bob
Speaker 2: Huggins For the Bob Huggins drive of the game, the
Speaker 2: off the backboard la oop that we referenced earlier, shout
Speaker 2: out to you. I believe it was David Cory. It
Speaker 2: might have been Ricky's pass war. We were not bigation
Speaker 2: this game, but good job, guys drives over to.
Speaker 1: Get pulled over. Be careful with with if you're driving
Speaker 1: into town that Bob Huggins is driving in this year,
Speaker 1: you never know, sir. Yeah, Yeah, the other players have not.
Speaker 1: He's oh, go ahead, talk about Bob. Can we start
Speaker 1: an extreme Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can we start an extreme sport which is putting Bob
Speaker 2: Huggins behind the wheel of a U haul and just
Speaker 2: sending them across the country.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say an him like the Santa tracker, But
Speaker 1: you can make get them Bob Huggins tracker.
Speaker 2: If you put a Bob Huggins tracker with a BAC
Speaker 2: unit in the car and then you can see where
Speaker 2: he was going. He probably would think he's in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and being like Anchorage, Alaska talking to Sarah Palin and
Speaker 2: no one would have a clue what was going on.
Speaker 2: But I'm I would. I would pay my tax money
Speaker 2: to do this.
Speaker 1: And you could also then you could bet on it.
Speaker 1: Get DraftKings the partner in it. Which state will he
Speaker 1: wind up getting pulled over in? First? I think the.
Speaker 2: Value the value pick would be Alabama, but they're pretty
Speaker 2: wax because I feel like they would just be like,
Speaker 2: hey man, we'll just we'll drive you home.
Speaker 1: What are they? What are they doing down there? They
Speaker 1: they in Alabama? Reading well as Ryland Griffin could probably
Speaker 1: tell us because he got out of there. But he
Speaker 1: might miss it, considering he played for Natos to let
Speaker 1: him shoot a bunch of threes, and that looks like fun.
Speaker 1: It's like that shot that year. It's like wow. Going
Speaker 1: on to talk about the right place and the right time,
Speaker 1: Harry Christmas wolf Hey, Ricky's passport made a free throw.
Speaker 1: I don't know how what kind of transition that was,
Speaker 1: but it was a quickly get away from the Brandon
Speaker 1: Miller joke. Shaq May played fourteen minutes. He scored five points.
Speaker 1: It's good to see him get some run. And then
Speaker 1: the walk ups. Justin Cross made a basket to get
Speaker 1: the walk Ons a little closer to the prop bet.
Speaker 1: If I pointed, if I put five rand, uh, he's
Speaker 1: the best of the walk Ons. Yes, if I put
Speaker 1: the five. If I put five random people in front
Speaker 1: of you, like point at the guy who did this
Speaker 1: to you prison style, could you point out which one
Speaker 1: is Justin Cross? I, Uh, yeah, I could actually, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't look Yeah. I think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen him enough. We saw him in
Speaker 2: late night in the fog a little bit and then
Speaker 2: I saw I just have a very vivid memory of uh.
Speaker 2: He had like two pick sixes essentially in the in
Speaker 2: the last minute of his game, and both of them
Speaker 2: ended with like a tragically long I think it was
Speaker 2: like Patrick Cassidy three points or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's the Patcher Cassidy and Wilder Ever has
Speaker 1: had three chances to add to the totals, but they
Speaker 1: missed and I wrote something very not nice there, So
Speaker 1: I'll just say that they missed. It was the missed
Speaker 1: pretty it was a sad good chance they have the No.
Speaker 2: I think Wilder Evers sounds like a budget like Minard's
Speaker 2: Home improvement store or like, what's that one that you
Speaker 2: go to is a Bass Pro Shops. It'd be like
Speaker 2: a budget Bass Pro shops Score.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, and you'd see that they sell hunting gear,
Speaker 1: bow and arrows, and ammos nothing else.
Speaker 2: All of the guns they sell don't shoot on target,
Speaker 2: just like the walk Ons.
Speaker 1: There are guns that you shoot you don't know where
Speaker 1: the direction it's gonna go.
Speaker 2: Do you, like, realistically, do you think the walk Ons
Speaker 2: at Kansas are actually really good basketball players? Like if
Speaker 2: you put them on a Division two team, how do
Speaker 2: you think they hold up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think the better they are, actually, I do,
Speaker 1: I think that they're Yeah, I think that they'd be really,
Speaker 1: really good. I think that Okay could who would win
Speaker 1: in a one on one game? The worst walk on
Speaker 1: that Kansas has ever had, or Caitlyn Clark. Wow, that's tube.
Speaker 1: That is a rabbit hole in half.
Speaker 2: So I will tell you this and this Kaylin buckle up.
Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark is an exception because she's unbelievable. But we
Speaker 2: had a lady that played for Michigan State. She was
Speaker 2: an all time scorer at leading score of Michigan State,
Speaker 2: that used to play pick up basketball at my gym.
Speaker 2: And I actually guarded her once and I did fine,
Speaker 2: and I'm not I'm not that good. So I will say, like,
Speaker 2: there's definitely a like people when they get the whole thing,
Speaker 2: like Caitlin Clark could play in the NBA. Like, no,
Speaker 2: it's no, I'm sorry that being said. If you take
Speaker 2: Kaylyn Clark and you put her against Tyler self, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the worst walkout.
Speaker 1: So Patrick So, Patrick Cassidy is a zero percent three
Speaker 1: point shooter. He has six one one five six one five.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark is six. Like I like ifn Caitlin Clark's
Speaker 1: beating him and horse but if the Yeah, if it's
Speaker 1: one on one, I think Patrick Cassidy wins that game.
Speaker 2: He can, don't I think so? Right, Yeah, he can.
Speaker 2: I think it's just a matter of strength there. That's
Speaker 2: a great hypothetical world. By the way, did you see
Speaker 2: that Angel Reese was upset that she was injured because
Speaker 2: she thought she could win Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: I did see that. Yeah, and and I know that,
Speaker 1: So Cam tell the world you your tooth sense on
Speaker 1: Angel Reaes because I think that Angel Reese is is
Speaker 1: very pretty, very attractive, right, I do. I do think that.
Speaker 1: I also think she's very very She's very attracted to
Speaker 1: picking up all the missed bunnies that she has and
Speaker 1: then patting those rebounding stats.
Speaker 2: Well she Yeah, she's like the Wilt Chamberlain of the
Speaker 2: w NBA if Wilt Chamberlain missed every single way up
Speaker 2: and had twenty rebounds extra per game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Her.
Speaker 1: I don't like her. I think she's annoying whenever she
Speaker 1: would average a double double, but she would like shoot
Speaker 1: like thirty six percent from the floor to get there, right, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirteen and thirteen for Angel rees this year while shooting
Speaker 1: thirty thirty four percent from the floor. Good lord, that's terrible.
Speaker 2: The ESPN app, so the ESPN app that always have
Speaker 2: like the game flow thing where it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: Steph Curry missed three point rebound by whoever. There was
Speaker 2: one screenshot, but I saw this year and it was
Speaker 2: like Angel Reese missed layup, Angel reefs rebound, Angel Reese
Speaker 2: missed layup, Angel Reaess rebound, and it went on like
Speaker 2: that for like four lines. I was like, oh man, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll lose money every year.
Speaker 1: One hundred, one hundred and seventy two of her four
Speaker 1: hundred and forty rebounds this year, we're on the offensive end,
Speaker 1: and I am sane most of them would be for
Speaker 1: comparison's sake, sixty of those. Let's let's do the math
Speaker 1: on this, so hundred Dickinson by comparison this year, twenty
Speaker 1: six of his one hundred and thirteen rebounds are on
Speaker 1: the offensive end, which is what like twenty percent maybe
Speaker 1: probably a little bit less than that. And Angel Reese
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy two of four forty six issounds.
Speaker 1: Oh that's wild. Yeah, that's very But she's richer than you, and.
Speaker 2: I will ever be, I guess yeah it, she'll be everage. Honestly,
Speaker 2: that doesn't do it. That's largely because I bet I'm
Speaker 2: like Chinese basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll call the hot line, call the hotline cam.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 2: Uh So what are thes for advice?
Speaker 1: What are the sports? Could the women against men in
Speaker 1: sports is such as it's a challenging debate to walk
Speaker 1: on a stupid argument. But like, didn't the women's national
Speaker 1: World Cup soccer team lost to a high school boys team? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just it's like it's hard to be okay, So
Speaker 2: here's the best one you can make. I actually think
Speaker 2: it's golf is golf. You can't you can't have them
Speaker 2: play the same yardage. That's the problem. You can't have
Speaker 2: it on an equal playing field because the average LPGA
Speaker 2: driving distance, I think it's like two hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: one yards. The average PGA tour driving distance is like three.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be yeah, in the mid threes.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I just it's such a dumb argut, Like
Speaker 2: I think they're they're obviously amazing to what they do,
Speaker 2: but everyone brings that up and I'm just like, please stop.
Speaker 1: Bryceon d Chambeau was on a mister beasts video because
Speaker 1: as a monster, because what else what do you do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's and they had him compete against uh, they had
Speaker 1: him compete against just like a high school golfer and
Speaker 1: see like how he can how far you hit it?
Speaker 1: And it is legitimately unbelievable. Whenever he hits the ball,
Speaker 1: the ball just disappears from the camera's view. It just
Speaker 1: goes into space.
Speaker 2: No, it's your Like, So I played professionally for a minute,
Speaker 2: and I like, I I'm not long by those standards,
Speaker 2: but I'm not short. Like my average drive, I believe,
Speaker 2: is about to ninety five. So that's pretty much average,
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit blowing.
Speaker 1: Average fourth shots. Oh yeah, he would fly me by fifty.
Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah, And it's just it just isn't. As
Speaker 1: you said, it's just not really fair to compare. In
Speaker 1: a lot of cases, golf is the closest. LP players
Speaker 1: are good, though, I will go there, they're really good.
Speaker 1: Women at professional women's athletes are good and everything, but whenever,
Speaker 1: like I believe, like, okay, here, what's your take on this.
Speaker 1: We've debated this on the show a long time. The
Speaker 1: five ITP hosts Ryan Land and Cam Nick and we'll
Speaker 1: throw We'll throw Daniel Cunningham in here for for good measure.
Speaker 1: Would the five of Us beat I'll start at the
Speaker 1: top with the obvious notes and you can work your
Speaker 1: way back. It's just the five of us. We don't
Speaker 1: get subs. Would the five of us jobs? Would the
Speaker 1: five of Us beat a w NBA team? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Would the five of Us beat any college women's basketball team?
Speaker 2: Potentially, if it's a team like that team that lost
Speaker 2: it was a men's team last year that lost by
Speaker 2: like Delta Valley or I don't remember what team it was,
Speaker 2: maybe one.
Speaker 1: You think the worst Naia women's basketball program in the
Speaker 1: country loses to Yes, at the five of Us.
Speaker 2: I do, because there's gonna be a school out there
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna research this at all, just because
Speaker 2: I don't care enough. But I think that there is
Speaker 2: a school out there where it's like they just needed
Speaker 2: an extra sport and they don't really like it's not
Speaker 2: a real thing. I think that, yeah, that's that's that
Speaker 2: would happen. But you're talking, I mean we're talking like
Speaker 2: Bishop's Psychamore level of like women's like.
Speaker 1: See, I think the five of Us lose to like
Speaker 1: of women's high school teams. Probably yeah, probably, Yeah, well plays, yes,
Speaker 1: they know how to play. Be running around, and I
Speaker 1: will say Cam pulls the needle a lot closer because
Speaker 1: you're a good basketball player. Maybe a bit the rest
Speaker 1: of us are not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, but not even that. Like we'd have
Speaker 2: probably Daniel would be playing, Josh Briscoe would be in
Speaker 2: a suit on the sidelines. We have Scott Chasen with
Speaker 2: their analytics guy, and yes quit after the first half. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: we'd probably lose Team I t P and we get
Speaker 2: Nick to make some jerseys. He's pretty good that graphic
Speaker 2: design stuff. Nick wants nothing to do with the show.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, and that's fair. That's totally fair. Nick
Speaker 1: wants so Nick, you and I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I think we would be you know,
Speaker 2: I'll do I'll do it with so I come back
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Just landon and I do not think we would. So
Speaker 1: at some point we do have to settle this.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I don't. I don't think middle
Speaker 2: school the size of difference.
Speaker 1: I think we would. I think middle school girls would
Speaker 1: beat us in some cases. That's the basketball players. I
Speaker 1: would be quiff Alexander against you. What's your average middle girl,
Speaker 1: like like five ft five?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd be drinking like a six pack of
Speaker 2: medello and like like TV timeout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the conditioning would be the tough part. If we
Speaker 1: don't have any subs. The first quarter may go great.
Speaker 1: But some sad news for you, Cam your your your
Speaker 1: Caucasian persuasion man, Zach Clemton. He strained his groin. Wonder
Speaker 1: how that happened, Zach. He's going to be out a
Speaker 1: long time, unfortunately for for well, unfortunately for Kansas opponents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cadillac Escalade of white man basketball, Zach Clembs
Speaker 2: is gone for a bit.
Speaker 1: But we'll be all right, We'll be fine, We'll get
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 2: We have Justin Cross and Patrick Cassidy.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm just now reading what you wrote,
Speaker 1: and oh that is hilarious. I almost read that and
Speaker 1: didn't see it.
Speaker 2: I was wondering if you would.
Speaker 1: Hey, it'd be you know what, that's the case, that's
Speaker 1: more important. Power to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good for him. Hopefully he doesn't reproduce Kansas
Speaker 2: fifty percent from the floor, thirty six percent from three,
Speaker 2: seventy three percent from the line plus ten on the
Speaker 2: glass only had six true numbers. All of that is good.
Speaker 2: Brown sucks twenty seven percent from the floor. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: fifty five shots. Wow, I just read that from the notes.
Speaker 2: That is, uh, that's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: They're horrible. Yeah, at this point, the five of us
Speaker 1: might be able to beat Brown because they that's the
Speaker 1: worst team that I've seen play since Kansas beat I
Speaker 1: don't know, somebody last Center, the North Carolina Central probably Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's been a while. But a good game for
Speaker 1: Kansas is a good tune up. They got to experiment
Speaker 1: with a few different lineup things while not sacrificing anything
Speaker 1: on the court, and they enter They bounce back nicely
Speaker 1: from those two losses. They enter the conference late at
Speaker 1: nine and.
Speaker 3: Two Big Twelve games, which is just now the reoccurring
Speaker 3: weekly laugh at Jerome Tang segments because wow, you want
Speaker 3: to talk about burning through all those good graces, Cam,
Speaker 3: tell me about Kansas State and they're a complete nightmare
Speaker 3: of a season that's unfolding in front of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The biggest loser currently in the Big Twelve that doesn't
Speaker 2: have to do with weight loss shout out to Bob
Speaker 2: Huggins is no longer. There is once again Kansas State,
Speaker 2: who lost to which a state. They're now six and
Speaker 2: five on the year, and not only did they lose,
Speaker 2: they lost Big Lee eighty four to sixty five in
Speaker 2: a game they were actually favored.
Speaker 1: In.
Speaker 2: Jerome Tang kind of put on a clown nose and
Speaker 2: wig and he gave the Bill self wine the case
Speaker 2: State really shouldn't be scheduling them in these games because
Speaker 2: there is no benefits to them win or lose. And
Speaker 2: I think the difference here is that they are not Kansas, Duke,
Speaker 2: North Carolina or Kentucky, so they're not at the same
Speaker 2: level where they can really make that argument correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a team that's now better than you
Speaker 1: on Ken Palm.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: The whole notion of that spiel was that you're a
Speaker 1: top ten team playing a team that's in the one
Speaker 1: hundred is range. If you beat them, it doesn't help
Speaker 1: your numbers. If you lose to them, it hurts your numbers.
Speaker 1: That was Bill Sell's point with Missouri all those years.
Speaker 1: And whenever you're you can't say that, whenever you're perceived
Speaker 1: to be every bit as good by all the computers
Speaker 1: and the eye test as the team that you're referring to,
Speaker 1: and what just a weird thing. Jerome Tang was he man,
Speaker 1: and what's interesting about him is he won people over
Speaker 1: so quickly with a lot of the things he said,
Speaker 1: and now the things he says are burning all of
Speaker 1: that good grace. Like he got up on the microphone
Speaker 1: after they beat Kansas in his first year there, the
Speaker 1: Kansas team that was sixteen and one, they were number
Speaker 1: two in the country, and the up and coming Case
Speaker 1: State team with Noel and Johnson and those guys. They
Speaker 1: beat Kansas in overtime and Jerome Tang got on the
Speaker 1: table and said, Hey, from now on, no more chanting,
Speaker 1: expect to win. I would love to know their record
Speaker 1: since that game, because it is terrible. They they and
Speaker 1: like now people on Twitter are angry because they were
Speaker 1: told by their coach to expect to win, and they
Speaker 1: have people getting on them like, well, you can't expect
Speaker 1: to win? Where Kansas State? What the coach told us
Speaker 1: to that they Look how much money they gave Jerome Tang.
Speaker 1: This roster is expensive and it sucks.
Speaker 2: They do suck. The Cats just not looking great. Here's
Speaker 2: your random fact of the show. By the way, I
Speaker 2: speed of cats, big cat tigers. Fun fact, Bangladesh had
Speaker 2: a huge tiger attack problem, so tigers never attack their
Speaker 2: prey head on. So if you're ever in Bangladesh, make
Speaker 2: sure to wear a mask because people in Bangladesh started
Speaker 2: wearing masks that looked like they had a head on
Speaker 2: the back of their head, so the tigers would see
Speaker 2: that and go, can't do that. They're still looking. In
Speaker 2: some other remote country that I can't remember off the
Speaker 2: top of my head, some farmers started painting faces on
Speaker 2: the back of cattle's asses for the same reason.
Speaker 1: Really, that's that is a fascinating fact there. So tigers
Speaker 1: they like, they won't lunge. Get that in the Chronicles
Speaker 1: of Narnia style.
Speaker 2: No, And it's also funny to me because, like you
Speaker 2: think of it, you have a cat like a tiger
Speaker 2: that's just super hungry and pissed, because I think tigers
Speaker 2: are pissed in general, and they are just looking at
Speaker 2: a guy and they see like a mask, like I
Speaker 2: can't do that one. He's he's no, not not yet,
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are, but if they if they really want to,
Speaker 2: you're you're cooked.
Speaker 1: I think I've whined last show about how the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals call them it's the jungle, and the Tigers don't
Speaker 1: live in jungles. Yeah, crazy, they live in the in
Speaker 1: the very cold forests of well Bangladesh, as you said,
Speaker 1: at least in.
Speaker 2: The in the cold streets of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the hopeless streets of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Good fact, Cam, I always enjoy that segment. That one
Speaker 1: was really good. Kansas State there, what is Kansas State
Speaker 1: gonna do in Big twelve play? This feels like a
Speaker 1: team that's gonna they're gonna lose at least ten games. Well,
Speaker 1: they're either gonna full on collapse and turn on tang
Speaker 1: or they're going to go, you know, right around five
Speaker 1: hundred miss NCAA tournament. The Tank's probably gonna be off
Speaker 1: to somewhere else. Actually, probably won't though. He's a huge buyout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has a huge buyout. And remember Kansas State fans
Speaker 1: were stoked that he turned down the Arkansas job, and
Speaker 1: now a lot of them are saying I wish he
Speaker 1: had taken it. Coleman Hawkins is a two million dollar
Speaker 1: nil piece in Kansas State, getting two million dollars worth
Speaker 1: from their donors to spend on a basketball player. Like,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Kansas and North Carol Line on those schools,
Speaker 1: they're never gonna have problems getting their donors to saddle
Speaker 1: up with with their reputations. No, but next time Jerome
Speaker 1: Tang goes to the donors and says, hey, guys, I
Speaker 1: know Coleman Hawkins didn't work out, but I got another
Speaker 1: guy in the portal. How about two million more? They're
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot more hesitant on that because Coleman
Speaker 1: Hawkins is averaging nine and seven uh to after and
Speaker 1: it's shooting thirty seven percent from the floor like he's
Speaker 1: been poor, and he had six points in this game
Speaker 1: wherever they got just smashed by an outside the top
Speaker 1: seventy five and Ken Palm which toast eight team, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and which law State's really not that good? It's very bizarre.
Speaker 2: I I it must be partially a chemistry thing. Maybe
Speaker 2: the guys that got in weren't that good. And then
Speaker 2: also a lot of a lot of KSE State fans
Speaker 2: are saying that Jerome Tang really is not good of
Speaker 2: a coach, which they can't draw to look back at
Speaker 2: his overtime record. No, and you look back at his
Speaker 2: overtime record.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say his coaching, but I think some
Speaker 2: of that was luck. You're not gonna win every single
Speaker 2: overtime game. Some of that's gonna flip over at some point, right,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh, if you you're completely right. If you look at
Speaker 1: in the history of sports, whether it's the NFL or
Speaker 1: college basketball or the NBA, typically in overtime games that
Speaker 1: go to overtime, if you look at what percentage of
Speaker 1: time the team entering with a better record wins, it
Speaker 1: is like fifty one percent. Like it is. It is
Speaker 1: exactly a coin flip once once it goes to overtime.
Speaker 1: So Jerome Tang in his career at Kansas State overall
Speaker 1: is eighty one in or excuse me, fifty one and thirty.
Speaker 1: Fifty one and thirty. It's sixty three percent winning percentage.
Speaker 1: He's twelve and one in overtime. So you take out
Speaker 1: overtime games and you have what thirty nine and twenty
Speaker 1: nine like that's that's that's like a fifty seven percent
Speaker 1: win percentage. If you just flip some of those overtime
Speaker 1: wins the losses. Let's say this isn't fair. He won,
Speaker 1: he won the games.
Speaker 2: What what did you say is winning percentage was at
Speaker 2: Kansas State sixty three percent. Sixty Okay, So here's your
Speaker 2: fun fact. Bruce Weber in his entire coaching career had
Speaker 2: a sixty two point two percent win percentage.
Speaker 1: Fascinating, isn't it. And Bruce Weber didn't have nil. And
Speaker 1: Bruce Weber didn't have all of those many many overtime wins,
Speaker 1: and he was undoubtedly a better coach when it comes
Speaker 1: to drawing things up. Yeah, let's say, let's say that
Speaker 1: tam tangas six and six in overtime instead of twelve
Speaker 1: and one or seven and six in overtime. And that's
Speaker 1: not real fair to say, because you know he did
Speaker 1: win those games. But that would bring if he was
Speaker 1: a five hundred overtime coach, that would bring his record
Speaker 1: at Kansas State to something like forty six and thirty seven,
Speaker 1: which would be what what What's what's forty six? That's
Speaker 1: eighty three games. That's a fifty five percent win percentage.
Speaker 1: That's barely five hundred. Like the overtime games is the
Speaker 1: only reason that his stats aren't like very very mediocre.
Speaker 2: That's so true, and I mean it's it's a hypothetical,
Speaker 2: but it is interesting to think about. And then the
Speaker 2: other other thing to point out is he actually does
Speaker 2: have talent on this team a lot of Bruce Weber teams.
Speaker 2: I mean he Bruce Weber actually did a really good
Speaker 2: job of getting some players that were maybe underrecruited a
Speaker 2: little bit and he actually did coach them relatively well.
Speaker 2: For as much as we did not like him, and
Speaker 2: I did not like him. Yeah, I don't think Jerome
Speaker 2: Tang is that good of a coach. I think he's
Speaker 2: kind of gotten. He struck lightning in a bottle having
Speaker 2: Marquis Nowell and then what was the guy's name was it.
Speaker 1: John Johnson? And those were Bruce Webers.
Speaker 2: Fines right, it's very Bruce Weber going to Illinois post
Speaker 2: Bill soelfaskue.
Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, that's exactly it. People. People laughed at Bruce
Speaker 1: for not being able to win with his own players,
Speaker 1: but Jerome Tang hasn't won with his own players either,
Speaker 1: And the direct look at coaching whenever he and like
Speaker 1: the Doug McDaniel, like, dude, you gotta get on the
Speaker 1: same page with your point guard. Can you imagine Bill
Speaker 1: Sell saying something like that, like you've got to get
Speaker 1: on the same page with the guy who's your team.
Speaker 1: You picked this guy out of the nil You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't sit there and be like I don't have
Speaker 2: a good relationship with my starting point guard. Like it's
Speaker 2: just so crazy. I think he's gone at the end
Speaker 2: of the year. Actually that's my hottake. Jerum Tang is
Speaker 2: such a big out though I know, but I think this.
Speaker 2: I honestly think the fans are gonna push him out.
Speaker 1: I think that the fans of Kansas State, who I
Speaker 1: saw sour on Bruce Weber and I've seen them go through.
Speaker 1: Remember Cam, there have been five different coaches that have
Speaker 1: coached at Kansas State that have made final fours. None
Speaker 1: of them made it at Kansas State. Like if you
Speaker 1: go back the last thirty years, Lon Krueger, Dana Altman,
Speaker 1: Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Bruce Weber, all five of them
Speaker 1: made a Final four. None of them made one a
Speaker 1: case State like they have been through some coaching year blo.
Speaker 1: And they are souring on Tang very very quickly. Who
Speaker 1: so we forget sometimes Jerome Tang was a bench coach
Speaker 1: for eighteen years like he never he never was a
Speaker 1: head coach, and now, well you might be he might
Speaker 1: be seeing why number nineteen Cincinnati got a nice road
Speaker 1: win at number twenty two Dayton on Friday night, Good
Speaker 1: Night for the Big Twelve. They won sixty six to
Speaker 1: fifty nine to move to nine, and won despite some
Speaker 1: officiating that really wasn't in their favor. They are currently
Speaker 1: the fourth highest ranked team in the conference. How are
Speaker 1: you anticipating their season to go?
Speaker 2: I actually then kind of right about where they're ranked.
Speaker 2: Maybe fourth or third would be my guest, But again,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's scheduling.
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati is really good. I like their roster.
Speaker 1: They returned a lot of their pieces from last year.
Speaker 1: They have a pretty good home court advantage. You see
Speaker 1: teams that haven't been up to standards like Kansas State
Speaker 1: and Arizona and Houston to this point, but Cincinnati's probably
Speaker 1: been the lone team in the conference that you can
Speaker 1: definitively say is better than we thought they would be.
Speaker 1: They're a good squad, and I think they'll contend for
Speaker 1: a top three Big Twelve finish. They look good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see it.
Speaker 2: The only other Big twelve team the loss is Utah,
Speaker 2: who played Iowa for some reason.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a matchup that nobody cares about, including the
Speaker 2: people in Utahi and Iowa. The ninety five points hung
Speaker 2: on them. Yeah, unless Scalen Clark is in attendants and
Speaker 2: or replays, they got ninety five points hung on them,
Speaker 2: which is wild.
Speaker 1: Why on earth is Utah in the Big twelve? Money
Speaker 1: at your March, Yeah, because it's the mister crabs I
Speaker 1: like money clip from the SpongeBob movie. Because htt your
Speaker 1: Mark has never ever ever seen a dollar opportunity that
Speaker 1: he didn't like. Oh, neither is Travis goff NAEs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it says f NBO on the Kansas logo.
Speaker 1: Other games, Hubert Davis Gluesniffer, as you always point out,
Speaker 1: finally got a win over a team you've heard of,
Speaker 1: and it only took until the weekend before Christmas to
Speaker 1: get it. Razy North Carol North Carolina defeated number eighteen
Speaker 1: UCLA seventy six to seventy four in the first game
Speaker 1: of the CBS Sports Classic, which is usually better than
Speaker 1: it is this it was this year because in the
Speaker 1: other game, Number four Kentucky got crop dusted by Ohio State,
Speaker 1: losing by it twenty points eighty five to sixty five.
Speaker 1: So I picked Ohio State to beat Auburn, and they
Speaker 1: had it in them. It just came against a different
Speaker 1: SEC team Kentucky. Kentucky got pants man. They're projected to
Speaker 1: go nine to nine on Ken Pum in the SEC.
Speaker 1: They are. They are very bearish when metrics are on Kentucky.
Speaker 2: I think they're slightly better than that. But I also
Speaker 2: Ken Palm was right on Kansas last year, so maybe
Speaker 2: they will be correct. Also in the broadcast, yeah, they did.
Speaker 2: In the broadcast before the Kentucky Ohio State game, whoever
Speaker 2: it was on CBS said two blue bloods and then
Speaker 2: said Kentucky and Ohio State, and I about threw my remote.
Speaker 1: Hey they're overusing that word. We canna admit that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if Ohio you got to get through about twenty teams
Speaker 1: before you get to Ohio State. Yeah, they're conversation good
Speaker 1: and Ohio State had a good sports weekend because Ryan Day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: case to be the rightful owner of the State of Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did.
Speaker 2: He stuck his flag in the State of Tennessee like
Speaker 2: Michigan did. In their horseshoe Clear's Day, number one team
Speaker 2: in the country but ranked number two in the AP
Speaker 2: poll because the old goobers who vote are morons. Auburn
Speaker 2: destroyed yet another quality opponent, overwhelming number sixteen for due
Speaker 2: eighty seven to sixty nine to get.
Speaker 1: To eleven to one. In the year.
Speaker 2: Auburn already has wins over Houston, Iowa State, North carolinam Physical,
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and Purdue, with most of them being blowouts,
Speaker 2: and yet somehow they're still ranked number two because the
Speaker 2: AP poll sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's terrible Auburn. Everybody knows is should be.
Speaker 1: They voted number one right now. They are the best
Speaker 1: team in the country. Uh and the and the uh.
Speaker 1: They also had the Johnny Broome injury right that that
Speaker 1: he didn't have to have surgery, so they're gonna get
Speaker 1: him back too. Uh. They are just an absolute juggernaut.
Speaker 1: And my my only worry about them is did they
Speaker 1: peak too early. They're gonna get beat up a little
Speaker 1: bit with the physicality of SEC play. I don't mean
Speaker 1: beat up is and they're gonna lose a bunch, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really competitive and uh and physical League,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what they look like at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. But clear as day number one team
Speaker 1: AP voters do it wrong. Cam's favorite coach in the world,
Speaker 1: Tom is though he's on a roll. I know that
Speaker 1: warms your heart at this.
Speaker 2: Time of year, Cam ah Man, They are good. I actually,
Speaker 2: actually do think Michigan State is really good this year.
Speaker 1: I'm I wonder if Michigan State where they'll finish in
Speaker 1: the Big ten this year, because I'm not exactly I
Speaker 1: think they win it like that. Who are their top
Speaker 1: tenders like Michigan Actually, yeah, Michigan.
Speaker 2: I think Michigan is pretty solid and Michigan is good,
Speaker 2: but I don't think there is good as don't I
Speaker 2: don't think there as good as Michigan State.
Speaker 1: And UCLA is there right like UCLA is the It's
Speaker 1: gotta take some time to get used to that.
Speaker 2: There's no tall there's no task too tall for mc
Speaker 2: cronin unless it's actually grabbing something off a store shelf.
Speaker 1: Like whatever people joke about. Mccronin'site number twenty. Michigan State
Speaker 1: beat FAU by a lot. They're eight and one now
Speaker 1: since losing the Kansas and the Champions Class like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're very happy for their fans.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for like three of them that I'm really
Speaker 2: good friends with, and the rest of them not so much.
Speaker 2: Zoobie Edge of four, who I've actually seen Kansas fans
Speaker 2: on Twitter say should be here over Hunter Dickinson, which
Speaker 2: makes me also want to heat myself into existence. Oblivion
Speaker 2: made a buzzer beater as Saint John's beat Providence on
Speaker 2: the road, and he is averaging fifteen points in eight
Speaker 2: rebounds per game playing for slick Rick Patino.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who I would want to play for, by the way,
Speaker 1: if I could play for any college coaching so too.
Speaker 1: Actually he's such a sweete ball scum bag. But he's
Speaker 1: so oh he's I bet yeah he cool? Is he's
Speaker 1: He's the definition of cool, even though he looks like
Speaker 1: a vampire. Some other noteworthy results here number nine Marquette
Speaker 1: barely beat Xavier on the road to get to two
Speaker 1: and oh and Big East Play. Number eleven Yukon barely
Speaker 1: beat Butler on the road to get to two and
Speaker 1: oh and Big East Play. And number five Duke smashed
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech on the road to reach two and oh
Speaker 1: in acc play. I fear that Auburn and Duke are
Speaker 1: the best two teams in the country right now, and
Speaker 1: time will tell if that wills up, because I don't
Speaker 1: trust John Shire at all.
Speaker 2: I don't either, but I think Duke will continue to
Speaker 2: get better, and I think Auburn is either at their
Speaker 2: peak or they're playing at close to their peak, and
Speaker 2: it'll be a question of whether they can maintain it
Speaker 2: for the entire year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just an impossible level to maintain. Auburn's gonna go
Speaker 1: through a funk. We saw Yukon look like world beaters
Speaker 1: last year. They went through a stretch where they lost
Speaker 1: like three out of eight and then they want ended
Speaker 1: up being world beaters. Like it happens. Just because they
Speaker 1: go through a stretch at some point doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: they won't end the year as hot as they started it.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be really, really hard for Auburn
Speaker 1: to match this level that they played for two months
Speaker 1: for the whole year. Ranked teams to lose since the
Speaker 1: last time we had a podcast, only one in the
Speaker 1: top fifteen and it was a blowout. Number four Kentucky
Speaker 1: went down for the second time this year. They lost
Speaker 1: to the Buckeyes, not the Ryan day one. But the
Speaker 1: other one yep.
Speaker 2: Number sixteen, Perdue lost to Auburn.
Speaker 1: Who even is Ohio State's basketball coach?
Speaker 2: No idea, I actually have no idea. It's definitely not
Speaker 2: Fat Mada.
Speaker 1: It is Jake Diebler, who I didn't know who that
Speaker 1: person was until till today. No idea, Yeah, absolutely, no idea.
Speaker 1: He is in his first season because he took over
Speaker 1: as the interim coach last year when they fired Chris
Speaker 1: Holtman in the middle of the year. He is the
Speaker 1: assistant that got promoted and that never really goes very well.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if it works better for Ohio State
Speaker 1: than it is most programs. Number eighteen UCLA and there
Speaker 1: very short coach lost to North Carolina. Hiight, jokes are great.
Speaker 2: Number twenty one Memphis lost Mississippi State and it was
Speaker 2: not particularly close.
Speaker 1: Memphis just Peter Totter is on this list. One week,
Speaker 1: they're on it because they're a ranked team to lose,
Speaker 1: and the next theme they're on it because they're the
Speaker 1: team that beat a random ranked team.
Speaker 2: I think it's because they like get talent. But Penny
Speaker 2: Hardaway socks as a coach like from an exodus.
Speaker 1: No standpoint so they just watched the last Just watch
Speaker 1: the last few minutes of that game in Maui against Yukon.
Speaker 1: If you want to know how good of a coach
Speaker 1: execution that that old penny is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's the reason he's a penny and not
Speaker 2: a quarter.
Speaker 1: Hey, I like that joke. All right, ask ARCB. You
Speaker 1: guys did a good job getting us questions and a
Speaker 1: short amount of time. Have eleven questions to blow through
Speaker 1: here as we talk about all of the things that
Speaker 1: are Kansas basketball at show me Hawk, would you rather
Speaker 1: have Kansas finish fourth in the Big Twelve and win
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve Tournament or have them finish the Big
Speaker 1: Twelve as the league champion but lose in the first
Speaker 1: round of the tournament. Great question? So, well, hm you
Speaker 1: go of those two options. I don't think that the
Speaker 1: second option is bad enough to keep me from picking it,
Speaker 1: because in the overall body of work, winning a Big
Speaker 1: Twelve title and having anho in the first round of
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve tournament is not usually enough to hurt
Speaker 1: you on the seed line. But I thought originally this
Speaker 1: question was going to be would you rather have them
Speaker 1: win a Big Twelve title but not be playing very
Speaker 1: well at the end of the year versus they finished fourth,
Speaker 1: but they win the Big Twelve title and they're assenting
Speaker 1: at the right time. That's what I would rather have.
Speaker 1: I would rather have a team that is playing at
Speaker 1: its best entering the tournament, and typically the ones that
Speaker 1: get hot in Big Twelve tournament week. Usually that doesn't
Speaker 1: lead to any sort of correlation. Remember last year wherever
Speaker 1: we saw Auburn red hot won the SEC tournament fizzled
Speaker 1: out in the first round. It doesn't always work that way,
Speaker 1: where the team that gets really, really hot and wins
Speaker 1: their league tournament winds up carrying it over. I'll still
Speaker 1: take it, but it's not the guaranteed success you think.
Speaker 1: I'll take.
Speaker 2: Probably the regular season title. I think did Did the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two team win the Big Twelve?
Speaker 1: Yeah? They won both of them? Okay, so the.
Speaker 2: Both title teams won the Big Twelve. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with with history on this one. Take the regular season title.
Speaker 2: Although I get the angle of being hot at the
Speaker 2: right time, but again not much of correlation at ardi.
Speaker 1: Evans eleven asks what does Bill self get in his stocking?
Speaker 1: And is kJ Adams with no pants? Bosley Hey, now
Speaker 1: that hasn't been confirmed.
Speaker 2: It's say, yeah, we'll go with that. I think it's
Speaker 2: uh yeah. The kJ Adams one was good, though.
Speaker 1: It's a rug at Elliott rus in h one rank
Speaker 1: your best three to five, get the ball, give me
Speaker 1: the ball, and get a bucket. Scorers in the self era,
Speaker 1: Oh man, Uh well, Davante and Frank are both on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the first two. My last one I
Speaker 2: think is might even be Sean Collins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you have to. I think you
Speaker 1: have to put him in there. He was the definition
Speaker 1: of a get me the ball. I'm gonna put the
Speaker 1: team on my back. I think Thomas Robinson's probably in
Speaker 1: there as well. He would demand the basketball and he
Speaker 1: would always do good with it when they really needed him.
Speaker 1: And I mean, honestly, a guy like Zikemeo was getting
Speaker 1: up there. Oh ch I have Bozi's up there, very clutch.
Speaker 1: Was a guy who demanded the ball, and and uh that,
Speaker 1: I'm still for my number five options. I only have
Speaker 1: one more pick. I'm gonna say November twenty eighteen, La
Speaker 1: Gerald Vick because that was just a super of a
Speaker 1: basketball player. He was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Then, uh yeah, you know what, through give me, give
Speaker 2: me the gerald Vick in there as well, because I
Speaker 2: only have three.
Speaker 1: And then my last one.
Speaker 2: I golly, I don't want to go all guards, but
Speaker 2: I think I almost have to. You know what I was,
Speaker 2: give me you know what, I'm torn. I was gonna
Speaker 2: say sweet because at.
Speaker 1: Duke's a good call too. I he was so convinced
Speaker 1: La gerald Vick Senior La gerald Vick was was going on.
Speaker 2: I mean, rafters, I know, but he the thing with
Speaker 2: speeds he can't make. He he couldn't really create his
Speaker 2: own shots. So I think you can't really can't really
Speaker 2: give him that one.
Speaker 1: Right, That's why it's that's why it's you you really
Speaker 1: have to go. And Thomas Robinson wasn't great at creating
Speaker 1: his own shot, but he with how efficient he was,
Speaker 1: no no one cares. Yeah, that's that's all I can
Speaker 1: think of. Thought good questions. Here's a great one for you,
Speaker 1: cam At Jay Rodriguez Underscore ninety eight. I know who
Speaker 1: you want to say, but he's no longer. He's no
Speaker 1: longer a big twelve coach. You can't say it. Which
Speaker 1: big twelve head coaches would make the best and the worst.
Speaker 1: Mal Santas, the best and the worst.
Speaker 2: I think the worst one would be Jerome Tang because
Speaker 2: when the kid got up there, he'd speak in a
Speaker 2: slightly slightly slow lisp that sounds kind of like that
Speaker 2: guy from the Looney Tunes was a sucker and suck
Speaker 2: attash guy.
Speaker 1: That's what he talks like. He'll spit all over the child. Uh,
Speaker 1: the best just be weird.
Speaker 2: It'd be really weird. He'd be like, what do you
Speaker 2: want from Christmas? While you sit on my lap? God,
Speaker 2: and he probably enjoyed it too, and the.
Speaker 1: Kid would say the kid would the kid would say
Speaker 1: like I want a truck or I want to row
Speaker 1: on a dollar whatever. In Jerome Tang would start talking
Speaker 1: about how, hey, we need to be winners, we need
Speaker 1: to make sure that that. He start giving this long
Speaker 1: little dismiss spiel, and like it'd just be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just wanted my toy Santa cheese he'd give him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be it. Yeah. Well that also that answer
Speaker 1: also works for what I was gonna say, which is
Speaker 1: Scott Drew. Scott Drew is just kind of a dweeb.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He Yeah, I don't know. If i'd
Speaker 1: want him to be my mol standa Bill Soelf would
Speaker 1: be a good Molsanda for being honest.
Speaker 2: I think Bill Soft would be good.
Speaker 1: Maybe Tommy Lloyd. Tommy Lloyd's good. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: I don't even know now because his team Mark Pope
Speaker 1: would have been really good. But he's not there anymore.
Speaker 2: All the worst, actually the real worst want to be
Speaker 2: Jamie Dixon. I feel like smells dude. Like looking at
Speaker 2: his hair, you just don't get good vibe. No, he
Speaker 2: looks like a skunk.
Speaker 1: Hey, at least at least Mark Adams isn't there anymore
Speaker 1: to you know people?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's he'd only serve a certain type of child.
Speaker 1: And Chrisby, Oh I get it now, that's funny. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also also from at Jay Rodriguez and His'screw ninety eight, When,
Speaker 1: if ever, did you stop believing in Santa? I still
Speaker 1: believe in the magic of Santa. Sir Santa comes tonight
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for it. Yeah, I'll go with that.
Speaker 1: I think I was like nine or ten, and it
Speaker 1: was probably as I did. I did. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: all the math and I it just it didn't make sense.
Speaker 1: This human being could not be in seven million different
Speaker 1: people's houses in one night. Just mathematically it doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan was the only child to pull out like
Speaker 2: at a sketch, do like the Pythagorean theorem and be like, well,
Speaker 2: if he left Newark, New Jersey by seven, he couldn't
Speaker 2: make it a Detroit.
Speaker 1: By eight exactly true. Like, I know that we're making jokes,
Speaker 1: but that's absolutely the stuff that trumps six year old Ryan.
Speaker 1: That's so they did at the at DS. Conscious says,
Speaker 1: oh what request drop two? How big come and correct?
Speaker 1: As a life lifelong listener here, how long or how
Speaker 1: big of a is Kirk Hyde Street listen or Herb
Speaker 1: Street listening to the uh to the to the college
Speaker 1: football playoff comments? Area, he sucks? You don't like him? No,
Speaker 1: have you heard all of his complaining about the I
Speaker 1: do like him. I think he's good on Thursday Night football.
Speaker 1: But he's been a total cranky pants about all the
Speaker 1: college football playoffs and complaining about how that's good and
Speaker 1: he's just been a negative nancy and and like, look,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear any of it. We don't have to
Speaker 1: have Alabama every time we play a football tournament. We
Speaker 1: don't have to have them. No, it's okay.
Speaker 2: I was at a sports bar during like the Ohio
Speaker 2: State game, and some just clinically insane man said next
Speaker 2: means started talking about bitcoins.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear any of it at all. Art Casey,
Speaker 1: if you had could have one superpower, what would it be.
Speaker 1: I think there's two. There's two that you're choosing between
Speaker 1: every time. One is super speed slash flying, take your
Speaker 1: pick there, and two is invisibility. Those are the two superpowers.
Speaker 1: Both answers are wrong. Xtra vision just so I can
Speaker 1: see Sidney Sweeney's nipples exactly. When you think about when
Speaker 1: you think about all of the things that you're giving up,
Speaker 1: like all the things that being able to fly could
Speaker 1: do for you. That's just because you wanted to see
Speaker 1: Sidney Sweeney's nipples.
Speaker 2: But think about like the career choices you could have.
Speaker 2: You could be the head t s a guy like
Speaker 2: they wouldn't and yeah you.
Speaker 1: Could just you could just look and be like that
Speaker 1: guy's got a razor blade strapped to his hip. How
Speaker 1: do you know that? Oh, I just tell just get
Speaker 1: a vibe.
Speaker 2: Theoretically, you could have prevented nine to eleven, and then
Speaker 2: you'd have been a nash Hero and then the domino
Speaker 2: effect would have happened and we probably wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: And all because nineteen Pricks brought box cutters on planes.
Speaker 1: Now we have to take our shoes off the airport
Speaker 1: twenty years later, like ridiculous. I think I think the
Speaker 1: shoe thing was the unibomber's fault, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: I think it was Wilder Evers popped on a Boeing
Speaker 2: seven seven.
Speaker 1: I think that that was the unibomber. I think that
Speaker 1: the the nine to eleventh thing changed the rules on
Speaker 1: like box cutters. So yeah, a little story. In twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: I was in college and my dad and I went
Speaker 1: to Boston to watch the Royals play at Fenway and
Speaker 1: I had a little like novelty baseball bat. It's like
Speaker 1: a foot long and it was covered in signals and
Speaker 1: I took I took it up there. You know exactly
Speaker 1: where this is going. I took it up there to
Speaker 1: you know, get signed by the Royals players and those
Speaker 1: TSA agents they gave like they were like, this is
Speaker 1: a weapon. You cannot bring this on the airplane. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a it's a twelve inch baseball bat,
Speaker 1: it's covered in signatures. I could hit you in the
Speaker 1: knee with it. You wouldn't even notice. It's tiny, like
Speaker 1: this must be checked as the flight is getting ready
Speaker 1: to depart. And I couldn't believe how they thought that
Speaker 1: this thing was a weapon. So yeah, we had to
Speaker 1: go through the whole process of getting paying for a
Speaker 1: bag just to check that because all the other bluggage
Speaker 1: was already on the airline, which I think. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they thought that I was gonna hurt anybody
Speaker 1: with it. I think they just wanted to make the
Speaker 1: airport an extra twenty five bucks on another bag.
Speaker 2: It's the tip top of the Iceberg conspiracy right here, folks,
Speaker 2: and inside the politics.
Speaker 1: Paint Yep, it's what. And every time my wife brings
Speaker 1: an ice pack on a plane, like one of those
Speaker 1: gel ice packs, it flung to the TS legal security
Speaker 1: check it is technically, but they have to look at
Speaker 1: it and while there are schwabs over it and everything
Speaker 1: and make sure it's not like explosive powder or something
Speaker 1: like that. Craziness. Man, I think if I could have
Speaker 1: one superpower, unless I can say, like you know, invincibility,
Speaker 1: where like you can like you're immortal or whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that counts. I think be for me.
Speaker 1: I it's I see. I think I've rather be like
Speaker 1: be able to run like Dash from the Incredibles than fly.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that sounds like I
Speaker 1: would have more use for it. It wouldn't be as
Speaker 1: cold anywhere, right, Yeah, Like if I could, like I
Speaker 1: gotta go to the grocery store real quick, Like being
Speaker 1: able to fly, would it help you that much? Unless
Speaker 1: you can fly at the speed of sound. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to go to the grocery store and drive
Speaker 1: up there. Oh I can run and be there in
Speaker 1: four seconds. I think that's better than flying.
Speaker 2: I have a meme in my phone somewhere that I'll
Speaker 2: send to our notes next time. And it's literally Nicki
Speaker 2: Minaj in a thong in place of a jet that's launching,
Speaker 2: and it looks like she's shooting flames out of her
Speaker 2: butt like turned towards the camera.
Speaker 1: It's awesome, like a like a rocket ship and all
Speaker 1: the things. Yeah, I don't need to see Lizzo and
Speaker 1: I don't need to see Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not even that. But I also photoshop
Speaker 2: Tiger Wood's face onto it. I don't remember why exactly.
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny. And his son is now a freaking
Speaker 1: dynamite star in the making. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: going to be very good at Preston Skirtstick. Name your
Speaker 1: top five board games, Oh, boy, board games. I'm a
Speaker 1: big board game Monopoly. I'm not a big strategy board
Speaker 1: game guy. I like the simpler ones, But I'm with
Speaker 1: you on Monopoly. I have not played a game of
Speaker 1: Monopoly and more than five years because none of my
Speaker 1: friends and family will play it with me. I'm undefeated
Speaker 1: lifetime in Monopoly. Uh and and no one will play
Speaker 1: with me because they say I act like the Trump
Speaker 1: of Monopoly. I'm apparently a big a big real estate order.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do.
Speaker 2: You only sell the Caucasians to play.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't sell anything, sir. If they you can't
Speaker 1: lose Monopoly. If you don't give anybody any monopolies via trade.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think mine would be Monopoly. I
Speaker 2: liked Sorry Hungary Hippos was really stupid, but I have
Speaker 2: that in my childhood for some reason.
Speaker 1: Really fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I used to like checkers a little bit, and then
Speaker 2: I used to play There was a chess club at
Speaker 2: my school and there was this really weird kid, really
Speaker 2: weird dude that ran it named mister Knight, really strange man.
Speaker 2: But I played chess there too, so I'll throw that
Speaker 2: in there, all right, you.
Speaker 1: Could probably beat me in chess, see I remember I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I like Quelf as a party game. Like,
Speaker 1: I like that's that's one of the more well known
Speaker 1: but also still kind of obscure party games.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I take it to rides on my list too. Got
Speaker 1: to play that at some point. That game looks really funny.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I am a big when it comes
Speaker 1: to competitiveness. You will not see more venom in someone's
Speaker 1: eyes then you'll see whenever you put a candy Land
Speaker 1: board in front of me. That is what I forgot
Speaker 1: about that game. It's about to go down when the
Speaker 1: candy Land game comes out. Yeah, that takes chess and
Speaker 1: like for me, Cards against Humanity and those type of
Speaker 1: games aren't technically board games, they're card games, but those
Speaker 1: are also in there. I'm a big my sister. So
Speaker 1: what my sister does for me every year is she
Speaker 1: makes a custom version of a popular board game that
Speaker 1: is themed like like our childhoods or our adult lives,
Speaker 1: and it's really freaking creative, and it's it's so cool,
Speaker 1: like she redid the Game of Life as like, you know,
Speaker 1: actually went out and got like a Game of Life
Speaker 1: board and put stickers on all the spaces that are
Speaker 1: like things that have happened over the course of our childhoods,
Speaker 1: things like that. So I have gotten I've gotten really
Speaker 1: into board games through but most of the board games
Speaker 1: that I've played are like the custom version, so like
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to to really relate to like
Speaker 1: the classic versions. But board game I'm a it's and
Speaker 1: this is a time of year where everybody should be
Speaker 1: playing ONTs of board games too. Board games are are
Speaker 1: meant to be playing at Mayo Zke Schuner. When Ryland
Speaker 1: Griffin is on the court, Zeke Mayo has been cooking.
Speaker 1: When Ryland Griffin is off the court, Mayo wasn't able
Speaker 1: to get as good as looks and missed a couple
Speaker 1: of shots. Is it's safe to say that his shot
Speaker 1: gravity and defense make Griffin the third most important player
Speaker 1: after Want and Hunter. He's not more important than Zeke Mayo,
Speaker 1: but that is an interesting stat that I didn't even
Speaker 1: find out. That's a really good stat. Good question.
Speaker 2: And then also I do agree that having more shooters
Speaker 2: on the floor tends to space it out just because
Speaker 2: people have to pay attention to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely makes sense why that would be the case.
Speaker 1: At brooks sosaurus forty one, what is your current outlook
Speaker 1: and projected finish in Big twelve play? Is the four
Speaker 1: guard ever going to be the majority of the minutes?
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be as much as I'd
Speaker 1: like it to be. I say they win the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: I say they win the Big twelve and go SEC
Speaker 1: and four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they I hope they win
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve because I have a future spath that
Speaker 2: relies on it.
Speaker 1: Allegedly, I can tuck he's gonna kill that, betsir.
Speaker 2: I know they will. I have like six of them.
Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. I golly man, I think Kansas finishes
Speaker 2: second in the Big Twelve. As much as I hate
Speaker 2: to say it, I think they lose to Iowa State.
Speaker 2: And no, I don't think the four guard lineup comes out.
Speaker 2: And last, it might come out at some point.
Speaker 1: But last question from at Bill's fool's gold. When are
Speaker 1: we going to stop pretending like kJ is this big
Speaker 1: effort energy guy And there's a video of Zekemeo missing
Speaker 1: a three and kJ not going one D and percent
Speaker 1: for a rebound, and I get it, like we get
Speaker 1: cherry pick. There's there's plays like that for everybody. kJ
Speaker 1: is the best real is the best hustle guy on
Speaker 1: the team though. That is what he does best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and some guys are gonna take plays off, which as
Speaker 1: much as that the camera catches, I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna discount it too much. Whenever there's there's a video
Speaker 1: of him not going full out for one rebound, because
Speaker 1: have you seen him rebound? He probably wasn't getting it anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then also the last game, when you were
Speaker 2: talking about the fact he had a career higd rebounds,
Speaker 2: you do you realize that two of those rebounds came
Speaker 2: within the last minute on like long shot attempts.
Speaker 1: Correct, right, Yeah, that for kJ to get a rebound,
Speaker 1: that comes down to some fluky stuff, especially when you
Speaker 1: play that many games, and that goes for anyway you
Speaker 1: get a career high in rebounds, they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: get a couple of breaks to go their way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. If you ever have asked RCB is used
Speaker 1: Twitter hashtag ask RCB, Yeah, yeah, babe. Soundboard website has
Speaker 1: not been functioning well recently, but it doesn't really need
Speaker 1: to today because we don't have a game to preview.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna preview. Uh, we're not gonna preview the
Speaker 1: West Virginia game yet. That'll be on the next show.
Speaker 1: And on the next show because we won't have a
Speaker 1: game to recap, we'll talk about non com play and
Speaker 1: preview Big twelve. So everybody who's wanting a little bit
Speaker 1: more in depth analysis on how we think the Big
Speaker 1: twelve is going to go, that's coming. I think that'll
Speaker 1: come out this weekend. But if you're listening to this
Speaker 1: before Christmas, have a great holiday season. If you're listening
Speaker 1: to it afterwards, we hope it was Mary and Grand
Speaker 1: Hopefully that good. Hopefully, we hopefully believe that good things
Speaker 1: are on the docket for Kansas in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five year, and we'll just have to see. We'll see
Speaker 1: what Bill does. This is Inside the Paint Podcast on
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Speaker 2: I'm Cam Lippele And if you're listening to this on
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Speaker 3: They'll for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the holidays. It's not gonna be there. Don't
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Speaker 1: You don't actually shoot them. Cam May I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: Cam made the Brandon Miller jokes. That doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: have to follow in those body STAPs. As much as.
Speaker 2: Grandma was in the wrong place at the wrong time,
Speaker 2: which she made that joke about tariffs.
Speaker 1: And well as as as our soon to be president
Speaker 1: once said, get that son of a bitch of podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's you, Cam, that's you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm on my way. Merry Christmas everybody.
Speaker 1: Now, Bob Huggins just crashed into my house.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Bob Huggins would continue driving through your house though.
Speaker 1: He finish his job. Yep, somebody somebody say bye or
Speaker 1: somebody behave. I don't care which one. High Landing