1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:28,879 Speaker 1: At a book. 2 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: If you'd like to be able to listen to the 3 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,959 show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 4 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:35,439 that's an option. To find out how, please go to 5 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:43,760 Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Randy. Randy, 6 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,519 thanks so much for coming on the show. 7 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Vick. It's good to be here. 8 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,719 Speaker 2: Well, it's great having you. Randy. Please give us a 9 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:53,079 brief bio in yourself. 10 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:59,719 Speaker 1: I'm forty six, I live in Miland, Tennessee. I have 11 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,439 grown children, and I'm just a simple guy. I live 12 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:05,640 in a simple life now, well. 13 00:02:05,519 --> 00:02:08,479 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. Normally, it's when things get 14 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:11,479 complicated that life starts to be a little bit of 15 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:13,840 a pain in the butt. So I'm glad to hear 16 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,680 that your encounter happened in or close to Bradford, Tennessee, 17 00:02:18,719 --> 00:02:20,919 on a road that your friend had an experience on 18 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,439 that kind of ties into your encounter. Please tell us 19 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:25,000 more about that. 20 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,719 Speaker 1: It's a scullball in Tennessee. It's in West Tennessee, you know, 21 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 right where I live to at Miland. It's all West Tennessee. 22 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Scollbolle in Tennessee. With the listeners, don't know, it's pretty 23 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,400 much it's country. It's the stick. There's no town to 24 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,599 it really at all. It's just houses, land woods, back roads. Yeah, 25 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,199 it's just it's the sticks. Basically, there was one day 26 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,639 he was coming to see me. He would come out 27 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,919 there periodically, you know, about once a week because it's 28 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,080 down the country, so pretty out there where I was 29 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,680 living at that time. And he had hit a cow. 30 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,400 And I couldn't understand how he hit a cow because, well, 31 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,439 it's a cow. It's not like it's deer. You know, 32 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,639 deer run out in front of you. While I lived 33 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,919 in Scowbone. Yeah, I hit two deer. They would run 34 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,479 out in front of me. But I would never think 35 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,080 a cow would just run out in front of you. 36 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,000 But yeah, he hit a cow in they rode. 37 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: Hitting a deer is one thing, but hitting a cow 38 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:33,520 that's totally different. Did he get hurt. 39 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: No, No, he he had a pretty expensive car at 40 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,479 that time, so I think it was wall was hurt 41 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:41,240 more than anything. 42 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:45,199 Speaker 2: Thank goodness for that he hit a cow. It's easy 43 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:49,439 to get some pretty serious injuries. Randy, you grew up 44 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,560 on horror movies. He told me, did the encounter that 45 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:54,840 we're going to talk about tonight, though, have any effect 46 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:56,360 on your interest in watching them? 47 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:02,479 Speaker 1: Uh no, I mean that's I mean I've been a 48 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,680 horror fan all my life, still watching to this day. 49 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,199 Speaker 2: Well, well that's the case. If you can say that, 50 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,080 then that's a really good thing. It must not have 51 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,959 been that traumatized by the experience, and thank goodness for that. 52 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,040 If you're such a horror fan, what's your favorite horror monster? 53 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: I would have to go with. 54 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:32,319 Speaker 2: Frankensteon Frankenstein. I wasn't expecting that. I thought you were 55 00:04:32,319 --> 00:04:34,000 going to say were wolves. 56 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:38,199 Speaker 1: Well, one of my favorite horror movies is American Werewolf 57 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:38,639 in London. 58 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: Man, you have good taste. Yeah, that's a good movie. 59 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:46,959 It sounds like you can. Can you watch werewolf movies? Now? 60 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,560 After that experience without any problems. 61 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:51,879 Speaker 1: No problems at all. 62 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: Well that's really good. Then now you described your encounter 63 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:59,759 to me the first time we spoke, is being priceless. 64 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,040 Why do you think of it. 65 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: That way, because there's once in a lifetime, literally once 66 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:08,079 in a lifetime. 67 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:13,439 Speaker 2: Oh that it was. But you're doing fine now. But 68 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:16,839 right after you had that experience, or you told me 69 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:20,160 that you didn't have any nightmares, there wasn't any blowback. 70 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,839 Everything was just smooth sailing. 71 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: No nightmares. I just kind of went on about my life. 72 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: Oh, thank goodness. Yeah, your experience is a lot different 73 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:35,240 than most of the people I speak with about their encounters, 74 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,040 how their encounters play out. But thank goodness for that. 75 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,560 I'm glad you weren't traumatized. Now. You told me also 76 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,480 that you didn't fear anything before you had that encounter. 77 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,959 Were you afraid of many things afterwards? It sounds like 78 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,720 you handled it so well that you weren't. But I 79 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,279 don't want to assume anything. 80 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:59,639 Speaker 1: At that moment. That was the time I was scared. 81 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:04,199 That's when I found out I wasn't so fearless. 82 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: So you were afraid when the encounter was playing out, 83 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,600 but afterwards, you didn't have any lingering issues with going 84 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:14,240 out after dark or being in the woods or anything 85 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:14,600 like that. 86 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't exactly the woodsy type, so to speak. 87 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:22,240 You know, I kind of kind of live the same 88 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:26,680 life I do now, you know, work, come home, that 89 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,279 kind of thing. 90 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,519 Speaker 2: If you've never been the woodsy type, does that mean 91 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,720 you live in town or do you still live out 92 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:33,360 in the country. 93 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: I live in town. I don't think I would ever 94 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,399 live back in a country. Yet, be honest with it, you. 95 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: Don't think you'd ever live in the country after that experience, 96 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,759 or it's just not your bag. 97 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:48,079 Speaker 1: I guess you could say both. It's not my bag, 98 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:52,360 it's too far out and you never know what you're 99 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:53,360 going to see out there. 100 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. I can't fault you for that mentality, 101 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:03,240 because you're right, you never do. Know. That experience occupied 102 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,839 your thought for days. You told me, did that persist 103 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:09,959 or eventually did you stop thinking about it? 104 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,759 Speaker 1: I eventually stopped thinking about it. 105 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: What do you think it is about you that allowed 106 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,319 you to handle that experience so well? Because a lot 107 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,639 of people, if they had an encounter like that, they 108 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,959 would have all sorts of problems. 109 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,399 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you know, it's so 110 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:36,519 outrageous even know that happened. If one of those nobody 111 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,800 would believe you kind of thing, you know, or they'd say, ah, 112 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:43,639 you watched too many horror movies, you know, something like that. 113 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:47,160 So I just kept it to myself. 114 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it normally goes. They come up with 115 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:54,000 any excuse to explain it away, except for the possibility 116 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:56,160 that the person standing in front of them is telling 117 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,560 them the truth, so I can understand how frustrating they 118 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,959 must be. How far did that encounter happen from where 119 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,079 you were living at the time. 120 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Let's see, it was about half way toward going toward 121 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:19,920 where I lived. Because the skullbone, you start out on 122 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,839 Gan Road. I'm not sure if it turns into anything, 123 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,600 but it's pretty much just a straight shot all the 124 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,040 way until you get to where this big church is 125 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,840 and you have no choice but to go around the curve, 126 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,480 and the curve either goes left or you go right. 127 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,360 If you go left on that curve, you're going to Bradford, Tennessee. 128 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,240 If you go right on that curve, you're going to Treason, Tennessee. 129 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,559 I lived on the right part of that curve. 130 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: How many miles would you say it was from home? 131 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,759 Speaker 1: I would say it was probably probably eight miles. 132 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: Did you drive straight home after you saw it? I did, huh, 133 00:09:06,919 --> 00:09:09,600 and never had anything happen then gave you the impression 134 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:10,720 that might have followed you home. 135 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,799 Speaker 1: No, that was the one and only time. And I'm glad. 136 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,919 Speaker 2: I don't blame you for being glad about that skullbone Tennessee. 137 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,639 That's a strange name for a town. Most towns have 138 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,399 a reason behind their name being named what they are. 139 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Any idea how Skullbone got its name. 140 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: No, I don't really have any idea how. It's kind 141 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,159 of like I said, it's country. But for whatever reason, 142 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,519 the monumental thing is there is a store there that 143 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,720 it's kind of a landmark, I guess you could say. 144 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:55,600 And it's not a grocery store. It's more of a 145 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,279 convenience store than anything. But there's I don't recall any 146 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,799 gas on or anything like that. You could buy T shirts, 147 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,759 scull Ball and T shirts. So it's like here, you know, 148 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:12,000 even in my town of Milin you'll you'll see, you know, 149 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,519 people wearing scull Ball in Tennessee shirts. You know. It's 150 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:19,799 kind of the kind of been a tradition here for 151 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,879 a lot of years. And I think I remember they 152 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:25,399 made pretty good sandwich too. That's about it. 153 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,399 Speaker 2: Well, that's a definite plus. If you've had a dog 154 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,679 mean encounter that you need help dealing with, or if 155 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,919 you'd like to be a guest on the show, please 156 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,039 go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. If 157 00:10:38,039 --> 00:10:39,879 you've had a big foot sighting, we'll like to be 158 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:42,320 a guest on one of my two big foot podcasts. 159 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Please go to my Bigfoot sighting dot com. All right, Randy, 160 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:49,679 please tell us about your encounter. Now, give us ever 161 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:51,320 last detail that comes to mind. 162 00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: Okay, it was a year two thousand. It was in 163 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:02,559 the summer. It was a beautifu day too. And so 164 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:09,759 I'm coming home and I see something in the distance 165 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:14,080 in the road. I'm sitting here thinking, okay, great, it's 166 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,000 a cow. And I'm also thinking, okay again, how did 167 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:19,960 he hit a cow? I can see from that distance 168 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:28,960 something's in the road, and I get closer, closer, closer. 169 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:37,720 I stopped my car and I'm looking and that's not 170 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:43,480 a cow. I'm looking at something tasting back and forth 171 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:49,159 in the road. I'm thinking, this is a really big dog. 172 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:55,000 And I'm also thinking, okay, like this, what y'all do 173 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,840 in the country. I'll get these big dogs because you 174 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:03,120 can't have them in town. And back then, you know, 175 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,879 I wasn't afraid of anything, and I was honestly going 176 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,840 to get out of the car and kind of shoot 177 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,679 it out of the road because it's blocking the road. 178 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:18,600 And I opened my car door slightly because there was 179 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:21,600 a tiny voice or reason that said, Frandy, hold on, 180 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:28,840 set this one out. Something's not right about this. And 181 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:32,759 I gently closed the door back and kind of pushed 182 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:34,480 down with my shoulder and making sure it was closed 183 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,120 all the way and hoping I didn't make a loud noise. 184 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:48,120 And I'm looking and I just said, dude, what is 185 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:55,919 that out loud to myself in the car. I'm looking 186 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,799 at something that is on all fours, six feet tall, 187 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:11,480 shaggy fur like a sheep dog. That's mangy, but not 188 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:21,799 that mangy. It has a human face, yellow cat eyes, 189 00:13:23,879 --> 00:13:32,360 a ginormous head, and the nose it was it was 190 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,440 really really long and flat and the nostrils were really big. 191 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:46,639 And I'm looking at this saying I have eye contact 192 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,799 with it. We are just looking at each other while 193 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:59,240 it's going back and forth in the road. And I'm 194 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:08,159 looking at this, I just say to myself, that is 195 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:19,279 a werewolf through and through. That is a werewolf. I'm 196 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:27,120 looking at a werewolf that shouldn't exist. And here's the thing. 197 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:32,480 The road that I lived on was a very busy rope. 198 00:14:32,799 --> 00:14:36,759 I have been with this thing for a solid minute. 199 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:39,720 This is a very busy rope. Somebody should have done 200 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,480 come by now because either A you're driving on this 201 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,000 road because you've lived here, or B you're driving on 202 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:50,759 this road because you can speed on this rope. It's 203 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,039 technically there's no speed limit. I mean if there was one, 204 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:57,720 none of us, none of us went by it. I 205 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,399 mean I drove on it throughing sixty five. I mean 206 00:15:00,679 --> 00:15:05,000 it was curvey, but I can handle it. And I'm 207 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:09,000 sitting here thinking, Okay, is am I on a different 208 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,480 spectrum right now? Like you know, somebody should have done 209 00:15:12,519 --> 00:15:17,919 come by now, And so I'm kind of getting worried 210 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,639 here because I have never seen that before in my 211 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,559 life and that shouldn't exist. So I'm a little scared 212 00:15:25,639 --> 00:15:32,720 right now. So I started immediately thinking about how I'm 213 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,559 going to escape this, how I'm going to get out 214 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:37,600 of this, because I did not want to reverse my 215 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:44,519 car and take my eyes off this thing because it 216 00:15:44,679 --> 00:15:52,080 was pretty scary and freculous. So I start seeing a pattern. 217 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:58,320 Every time it goes right, there's a little bit of 218 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:03,440 road there I can get. So what I'm thinking I'm 219 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,840 gonna do is every time it goes there, I'm just 220 00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:13,080 gonna nudge my car up just a little bit. So 221 00:16:13,559 --> 00:16:18,200 that's what I start doing about three times I've done that, 222 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:25,039 and as I'm passing this thing, it's right beside me, 223 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:30,679 I'm ignoring it, just looking straight ahead, and I'm saying 224 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:36,559 out loud, okay, man, okay, I'm just gonna go right 225 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,840 by here, just gonna go right by you. I'm just 226 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:46,200 going home. I got by it. I'm looking at my rearview. 227 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:51,840 I still have eye contact with this thing. Well, it's 228 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:58,000 still pacing the same way it was. I looked at 229 00:16:58,039 --> 00:17:03,159 this thing in my review until it was no longer 230 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:12,000 in my vision. And I got home. I sat on 231 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:22,000 the couch and thought about what I seen. Never told 232 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:27,319 anybody about it, thought about it for a few days, 233 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,079 and I went on about my life. 234 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: Did you elect not to tell anyone about it because 235 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,160 you had this fear of how it would be received 236 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,759 and the possible damage you would do to your reputation, 237 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:44,960 or for some other reason. 238 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:48,319 Speaker 1: Just how it would be received. You know, it's one 239 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,839 of those things where you didn't want anybody to think 240 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,359 that it was crazy for you know, making stuff up, 241 00:17:56,519 --> 00:18:01,680 or you were seeing things or you know. Yeah, I 242 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,200 just kept it to myself. It was just better that way. 243 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: Now that's understandable. There can definitely be some serious blowback 244 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,279 when you come out and talk about an experience like that. 245 00:18:13,599 --> 00:18:16,200 You had your encounter during the day, You said, but 246 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,720 what time of day was it? Do you remember? 247 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: It was? Probably see I was second shift back then, 248 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:29,640 so it was definitely around two. 249 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: Huh, right in the middle of the afternoon. Then do 250 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,480 you remember what month it was? 251 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact month. I just know it 252 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,279 was summertime because the weather was really nice. 253 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,799 Speaker 2: If it was summertime and the weather was so nice, 254 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:51,680 you said you went right by it when you left, 255 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:54,079 were your windows down? Were up? 256 00:18:55,319 --> 00:18:57,759 Speaker 1: They were up? Now, the car I was driving at 257 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:01,759 the time was a nineteen ninety five thessigned at so 258 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,279 I had air so I was enjoying the air conditioning. 259 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,759 Speaker 2: Man, I don't blame you there. If your windows were 260 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:11,680 up and you went right past it, how close exactly 261 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:13,359 was it to you when you went by? 262 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:20,559 Speaker 1: It was really close. It literally could have brushed up 263 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:24,000 against me. But I was trying to time it where 264 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,359 like I said, I've seen that pattern. I got literally 265 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,119 way on the road there. I mean, some some of 266 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,079 me was, you know, on the dirt there, put it 267 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,119 this way. It was. It was close enough. It's reason 268 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,559 why I was not looking at it, because I didn't 269 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:43,119 want it to just knock me off the road. 270 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's better not to look as you're going by it. Though. 271 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,640 Did it ever make any movements to give you the 272 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,680 impression that was about to try to do something to you? 273 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,920 Or did it just stand still? 274 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:05,759 Speaker 1: No, I didn't give me any pression. It actually acted like, okay, 275 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,480 I guess I'll let you go. 276 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: Huh, well, thank goodness for that. I mean, it definitely 277 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,759 could have rinted things up more than it did. Now 278 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,200 you saw it, and at first you thought it was 279 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:19,920 just a cow like what your buddy had hit on 280 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,640 the road as you're approaching it, But as you got 281 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,799 closer and closer to it, did it seem to get 282 00:20:25,839 --> 00:20:28,000 agitated by your approaching. 283 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:37,279 Speaker 1: It. I wouldn't say agitated, but it definitely got a 284 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:40,519 different look on its face. At the look it was 285 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:43,440 giving me is like I want you to try something. 286 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,559 Speaker 2: As you got closer and closer, it was giving you 287 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:50,559 that look. But was it standing stock still or was 288 00:20:50,599 --> 00:20:51,480 it doing something? 289 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: It was just painting back and forth in road like 290 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,720 it was in Preder remote especially whenever I got you know, 291 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:04,759 got close though in my car. It may they went in, 292 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,880 maybe they went into predator mode. Put it that way. 293 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: That is awfully strange. So here it is in the 294 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,079 middle of summertime, it's two pm in the afternoon, broad daylight. 295 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,319 It's a beautiful day out, and this thing is just 296 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,960 pacing back and forth, back and forth on road that 297 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,640 is normally pretty busy. Did you ever see anything that 298 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:28,839 might explain why it was there pacing back and forth 299 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,440 on that road or is it just a mystery? 300 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: As a mystery to me, that's still a mystery to me. 301 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,839 Speaker 2: Well, you can't think for these things, though, who knows 302 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:42,359 why they do half the things they do? Now, when 303 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,000 you saw it, you said it was about six feet tall, 304 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,799 but it was down on all four Still with that 305 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,200 in mind, when you saw its profile as it was 306 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,319 pacing back and forth, did its back have a slope 307 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,039 to it or was it pretty flat across the back? 308 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: It was flat? Huh. 309 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,319 Speaker 2: So its arms were just about as long as its 310 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:03,799 legs in. 311 00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, huh. 312 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,079 Speaker 2: I see what about its fingers and claws? Did you 313 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,599 see them? 314 00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:17,319 Speaker 1: I've seen the fingers, but I couldn't really see any 315 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,839 claws because every time it's stepped fur was hanging over 316 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,920 its hands, so every time it stepps, that fir kind 317 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,279 of got thrown over it, so it's hard to see 318 00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:29,519 if there was any falls. 319 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,039 Speaker 2: What about its legs structure? Would you describe it as 320 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,519 having hominid style legs like humans? Ever? Were they digitigrade 321 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:39,559 style legs like a dog or a horse? 322 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,759 Speaker 1: It was more human? 323 00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: More human? Okay, Well, let's talk about its face. Then 324 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,480 you said it had a flat face, But what can 325 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,759 you tell us about its nose? 326 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: Its nose was, for it was really long and flat, 327 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,960 and the nostrils were really big. It was I'm not 328 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,279 gonna lie, I was a weird looking nose for it 329 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:08,440 to be that long. 330 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: When you say it was really long, its nose was 331 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:15,200 really long and flat, I don't understand what do you 332 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,640 mean by that? 333 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: Okay, you know how the top bridge of the nose 334 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,039 and I go, you know, to the to the tip 335 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:29,559 of the nose. That would I'm trying to think of 336 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:37,200 a comparison, say, for instance, like an outside thermometer that 337 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,599 like the ships against the you know, against the house, 338 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,400 or something like that. 339 00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:46,519 Speaker 2: If that makes sense, Oh, that does make sense. 340 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: That's the best comparison I can think of. 341 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: Well, when you consider the fact it had hominid style legs, 342 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,359 it had a flat face. It had that nose, kind 343 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,480 of like a Jimmy Duranty nose almost, But the fact 344 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,519 they had a flat face, it sounds like it didn't 345 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,400 have any kind of a muzzle. It'd be easy to 346 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,799 jump to the conclusion that this thing must have just 347 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,759 been some kind of a sasquatch, but we're going to 348 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:12,920 talk about next. It precludes the chance that it was 349 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200 a sasquatch. What I'm getting at here is, please tell 350 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,240 us about its ears. 351 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,279 Speaker 1: The ears they were pointing, I mean, just like a 352 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:29,559 just like a dog. They were more definitely canine type ears, 353 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,599 But they weren't They weren't that big. They were actually 354 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:34,400 kind of small. 355 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: Were the ears on top of its head or on 356 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:37,880 the sides? 357 00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: It was on its side? 358 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it sounds listening to all these details, 359 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,000 and I even told you this the first time we spoke, 360 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,039 it sure sounds like you did see a freaking wear wolf. 361 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,519 But I don't believe in wear wolves, so that's a problem. 362 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,240 But I believe it. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure, sure, 363 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,519 But no, I believe you. I believe everything that you're 364 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:06,920 telling me. And telling us tonight, and yeah, it sure 365 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,960 does sound like you saw a freaking werewolf. Holy cow, 366 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,759 what a wild world. Now, when you stopped your car, 367 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,519 how close were you to it? Of course this is 368 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,880 all before you drove past it, but yeah, when you stopped, 369 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,880 how close was it from the front of your car? 370 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: I want to say it was at least five feet 371 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,880 at least five ft. I would not get any closer. 372 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,559 Speaker 2: So between five to ten feet is a safe bet. 373 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a going bet. I was willing to take. 374 00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:45,079 Speaker 2: No, I understand. Yeah, a lot of people wouldn't have 375 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,319 gotten that close if it had shaky for like a 376 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,599 sheep dog, kind of like a sheep dog. Did it 377 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:55,000 for a block much of its face because you know 378 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,119 sheep dogs are their fur hangs down and blocks a 379 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,319 lot of their face. 380 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:02,759 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Picked. That was one 381 00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:06,920 of the weird things. There was no, say, for instance, 382 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,200 hair on its face. But what it did have, I'm 383 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,720 sure you've heard the term peach fuzz, right, Oh yeah, okay, 384 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,319 that's what it had. The type of hair it had 385 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,680 on its face. It was just really short, peach fuzz. 386 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: Type, and it didn't have long bangs. That hung down 387 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,359 in front of its eyes or anything like that. No, well, 388 00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:33,720 that's probably a good thing, because well, it could be 389 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,799 a bad thing too. Sometimes not knowing is better than 390 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,160 knowing something really well, such as what a freaky looking 391 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,759 thing like that looks like. But when you described it's 392 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:46,759 for looking that way, I was wondering how much of 393 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:51,279 his face it blocked. Which idea frightens you more, Randy, 394 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,799 the knowledge that you just might have seen of where 395 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:57,839 a wolf or the idea that, if where wolves exist, 396 00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:00,640 what else is out there that we don't know about? 397 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,599 Speaker 1: Both both? 398 00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: Neither idea is going to give you the warm and fuzzies. 399 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:11,680 That's a given. If you stop that close to it, 400 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,519 and you drove by it at such a close distance, 401 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,279 you got a really good look at this thing. And 402 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,160 with that in mind, would you describe what you saw 403 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,480 as being a flesh and blood creature or possibly some 404 00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:25,119 kind of a spiritual being. 405 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: Ah, that's a tough one, Vick, It really is, because 406 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:38,200 you just don't see something like that. You just don't. 407 00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: And that's a good thing too. You said you were 408 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,359 pretty much making eye contact even when you were driving away. 409 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,720 How far did you get down the road before you 410 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,960 lost sight of it, And did you lose sight of 411 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,960 it because it went off the road or because you 412 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,640 wouldn't around a bend or something else like that. 413 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: It seemed like it was the same distance it took 414 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,119 for me to approach it for me to get away 415 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,480 from if that makes sense. 416 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,519 Speaker 2: No, that does make sense. And from the way you 417 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:14,319 describe it, did you wind up going around to bend 418 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,599 and that's how you lost sight of it? Or did 419 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,920 it move off the road and disappear that way? 420 00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: I had to have been going around a band because 421 00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:28,119 it stayed in the saying spot, just looking at me like, hey, 422 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,319 come back here. 423 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: You know, oh boy, I can only imagine the thoughts 424 00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:36,440 it must have been going through your head. Let's talk 425 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,279 about its eyes now. Did its eyes seem to be 426 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,400 back lit because it was two in the afternoon and 427 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,079 during the summer. Did its eyes seem to be back 428 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:50,480 lit or did it seem to be reflecting somehow? 429 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: I would say back with yeah, there was nothing reflective 430 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,079 about them. 431 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: But you did say that had a yellowish color. 432 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were definitely, is right, just like a cat, 433 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:08,680 Just like a cat. 434 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,759 Speaker 2: And you did notice some kind of a glowing effect 435 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:15,559 it wasn't just yellow pupils. There was a definite glow. 436 00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: There was some glow there, there's some glow. 437 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,599 Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious, I'm so glad you're able to deal with 438 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,640 that experience as well as you have, because, like I said, 439 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,599 a lot of people would have had a lot of 440 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:32,000 trouble dealing with that. There was a guest on the 441 00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,799 show who had an encounter in England. From what I understand, 442 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,440 you said something that really resonated with you. Please talk 443 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:39,079 us through that. 444 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's one of those things where just like he said, 445 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,519 I've never seen a dog man, but I've seen a 446 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:57,759 were wolf and that, Yeah, I identify with that because 447 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,279 I have seen a were wolf. 448 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: They exist, Yeah, sure, sounds like you have. Even though 449 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,160 I don't believe in wear wolves. I'm not going to 450 00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:09,960 say that they can't exist, because that would really be 451 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,839 a conceit. There's so much that we just don't know. 452 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,519 But there's a difference between knowing they don't exist and 453 00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:20,920 not believing they exist. I don't believe they exist, but 454 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,640 when I talk with a credible person like you who 455 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,359 talks about an experience like this, it's just really hard 456 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,400 to wrap my head around it. Really is, but if 457 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,319 it's of any interest to you, I most definitely do 458 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,799 believe you. What's about time for us to get out 459 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:38,680 of here, Randy. But before we do, do you have 460 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,480 any clothes and comments you want to put out there 461 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,039 for us? 462 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,039 Speaker 1: I'd just be safe out there, especially if you're driving 463 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,839 on country back roads, even if you live there. Just 464 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,400 be safe. 465 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always good advice. Well, Randy, I can't thank 466 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,960 you enough for coming on. I'm sureing the details of 467 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,279 that experience with us, I really appreciate it. No problem, Vick, 468 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440 thanks again so much of your time, and have a 469 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:06,960 great night.