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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Crime Page

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about and He Doesn't podcast. It got chili as hell here.

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We got a cold front in the border lands of

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South Texas today, where the billboards for personal injury attorneys

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shine and the car dealerships are many, and nobody cares

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about the native living skin of the planet in this

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particular region. Actually a few people do, but not many.

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But yeah, it's got cold as shit here. So this

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mocking bird is really I don't know what he's doing,

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but he's always. It's always mocking birds and sparrows here.

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And once in a while we get a kissity in

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the in the in the yard here, in the dense thicket.

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But so I was out throwing blankets on stuff, I

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brought some stuff inside. This is why I try to

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grow just only natives, because I don't I don't like

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doing this, but I've had I've got stuff that people

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have given me, cool plants that people have given me,

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you know, subtropical or desert plants, whatever. It can grow

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a lot of stuff that's native. Only a one hundred

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or two hundred miles south in Mexico. Got a lot

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of rare cactie that will get tip damage. But you know,

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the more that the Arctic warms, the more unstable the

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jet stream becomes, and it starts wavering like a roller coaster.

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And so while it's warm up there, warmer than usual

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up here, it gets colder than usual down here. You know,

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they're at the trough of the wave. We're at the

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or we're at the trough of the wave. They're at

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the crest up there. You know. I remember like during

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the Texas freeze, it was like, uh, it was warmer

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in Alaska than in southern Arizona. This is like in

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twenty one when the get dreams all fucked up, you know,

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And that's where most of the warming is going to happen.

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He's in the Arctic. But you wouldn't know that if

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you look at a lot of elements of American popular culture,

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where climate denial is still so huge. It's amazing. It

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blows my mind that the oil companies have been so

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good at their PR. All it takes is PR. You

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just put money in the PR and the PR firms

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and they just start pumping it out there that you know,

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the soliet is wrong or there's money to be made

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off the green scam, the green the green news scam.

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So it's all part of the dystopic reality we're here

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living in the US. You know, people get dumber, the

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oligarchs get richer. People vote for you know, uh leaders

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and autocrats that are going to screw them in the end,

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that are going to fuck them over, like happened with

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the recent firing of thousands, tens of thousands of federal employees. Right,

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you vote for someone who's going to make America great again,

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and they lay off tens of thousands of federal play

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They laid off the fucking national people at the National

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Institutes of Health. They just because you know, the idea

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is cut you cut those jobs, and you could cut

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the funding. Right. This is the same thing that the

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railroad was doing with precision scheduled railroading before I left.

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You know, they stopped they When I first hired out,

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we had all these insane safety quote safety rules because

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they were worried about worried about they were they they

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wanted to get their injuries down because that would save

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them money. They were worried so anything that they we

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were getting instructions on how to walk and so this

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was some policy that all the class when railroads were

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doing like you know twenty ten, where they were just

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firing you for anything, if you if you know, for

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getting on and off moving equipment, for not walking right,

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for not looking both ways before you cross a yard track,

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like a track in the yard that hasn't been used.

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I mean, just stupid shit, insanely stupid shit. You know,

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some of it made sense at first, but then it

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got to the point where it was ridiculous, and the

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managers were testing you, and so they created this completely

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uh antagonistic relationship between management and employees. You know, you

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get some guy who worked at a fucking Applebee's two

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years prior or you know, but he had a business degree.

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He was like a managing an applebe's, excuse me, not

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a worker. He was managing an Applebee's or one of

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you know, these bleak elements of American consumer dystopia. He

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was managing an apple These are some shit. Now he's

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a manager. He applied for the position. The railroad's never

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hired from the ground up. They used to. They don't

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do that anymore because they realized those those managers they'd hire,

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if they did hire them, would have too much sympathy

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for the employees, and they wanted people that were really

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just robots, subordinate and had that all that business school,

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that entrepreneurial indoctrination and so anyway, so but the railroad

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was doing this. They were just started cutting jobs, like

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cutting jobs to the point that it didn't make sense.

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It's like, you, you know, you have to put money

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into your fucking infrastructure. You have to put money into

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making sure the locomotives run. You can't. I mean, there's

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just basic costs you have to do. You guys have

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gotten so fucking greedy and obsessed with pleasing shareholders, you're

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cutting everything. And so that's what the government's doing. This

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is like, this is the right wing American ethos. This

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is this. These are elements of the shit that started

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with Reagan. This the trickle down theories, the Reaganomics, the

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defund the libraries, defund the post office. Everything should be

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privatized because it's more efficient. And it's funny because it's

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all the shit that these these right wing, these shiny

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plastic shit eating grin right wing pundits say is gonna

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happen under socialism, but it's happening under capitalism. On steroids,

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This deranged deregulated form of capitalism on steroids, and it's

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so dystopic to me. It's starting to get fucking hilarious.

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In a really macabuay. You got to blend the terrible

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with with humor. All right. That might seem absurd to

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some of you, but you really do. I mean, just

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stop the pearl clutching and stop the oh my god,

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stop the outrage, and just just fucking realize this is

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I mean, it's I don't make no mistake. I'm filled

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with hate and anger. I know a lot of people

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that got laid off, but this is just this is

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what they want, and they're gonna They're just gonna cause

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everything to collapse. I mean, they fund they fired people

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at the fucking Nuclear Agency and then they brought them back.

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I mean, it's it's insane. I'm watching this shit and

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I'm watching these clowns. I just you know, and I

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know this too, because this is exactly what the railroad did.

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I mean, they were they were slowing things down so much,

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they were the trains got longer. They stopped putting as

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many engines on them, as many locomotives on them, you know,

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so they couldn't they they were going, the trains were

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going slower, shit would break down. It was just like

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this short term gain, long term loss mentality. It's that's

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just infused American uh business ideology, and it's these it's

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at the base of it all are these fucking you know,

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this is what's really frustrating, is at the base of

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it all are these obsolete primate hoarding impulses that disregard

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the collective and just focus on the self, just just

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on accumulation. It's a fucking mental ill. You know. I

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had hope with Luigi. We need some more of that.

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We need more, we need more of these fucking I mean,

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you know, just start just start laying them out. I

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don't know, it's the only thing that the left and

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right can agree on. But I'm sure with enough propaganda

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you could probably get the right to probably i mean,

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you know, vote for them again. Whatever it's but it's insane.

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I mean, this is a these federal firings, these federal

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employee firings going on in the United States right now.

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It's estimated they could eventually affect more than two hundred

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thousand people. Two hundred thousand people could lose their jobs,

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you know, and many of those people voted for this

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fucking orange dipshit in office, right, I mean, I fucking

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held my nose and voted for Kamala Whatever. I don't

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like I don't like her. But if I've got a

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choice between getting beaten with a club or getting stabbed

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nineteen times, I'm going to take the beating with the club.

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You know, it's kind of what it was. But really,

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I mean, after this experience, I don't think I'm ever

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going to vote again. I don't think. I just think

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I want to not live here anymore. At some point,

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there's a whole world out there that's not like the US,

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where people aren't getting fucked, where healthcare is affordable. You know,

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this is all. This is all the result of these

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ein randy and economic principles. This is again, this is

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just Reagan two point zero, the mass firings. I don't

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think any of the people that voted for this guy

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saw this coming. It's you know, but with enough pr

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you can convince anybody anything, and especially you know, the

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right has captured the working class because the left has

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just fumbled so bad in the last ten or fifteen years.

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The identity politics thing. It really didn't work. It was

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a real bad idea. You know, you let these college

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kids who've got no fucking, you know, experience with real

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life or with working, these social theorists, these humanities that

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you case, people with no fucking very little understanding of

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science too, very little schooling in natural sciences or in

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biology or natural selection evolution, an understanding of the real world,

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not this make believe human bullshit that we've created over

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the last few hundred to you know, a couple thousand

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years whatever. You let them take over and infuse the

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whole ideology with all the identity politics shit, how you

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want to be perceived, how you wanted the people to

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perceive you, all this it just becomes, you know, and

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then just the elitism and talking down to people and

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the fucking I mean, the cancel culture part was part

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of it. You know, you guys didn't want to listen

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to this, but I'm gonna make you anyway, we'll get

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it out of the way. Like the cancel culture started

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with attack and genuine monsters, and then it just went

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for everybody and that it was just people fighting against

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each other and just left this attacking each other. Oh

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it was amazing. Oh it was it was a comedy,

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you know, and even if it was some sort of

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you know, uh cia app if you if you want

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to go that conspiracy theorist or out of plenty of

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people took it up. Anyway. There were so many disaffected,

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you know, traumatized people that had shipped there that probably

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weren't seeking therapy for and they just that was what

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the left was, just perpetually online, the American left, perpetually online,

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talking shit, elitist, fucking mean uh, not not reaching out

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the people, not getting people the benefit of the doubt,

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not trying to convince people of a better way to

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be without shitting on them. And this is what the

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other one hundred percent helped this happen. They really did

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so uh anyway, but at least you got to, you know,

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perform online and uh play holier than now and morally

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talk down to people anyway. You don't need to agree

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with me, and I don't care. I'm just I got

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ten minutes to just puke this stuff out because it's

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it's bothered me and I'm gonna do it so you could,

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you know, just fast. But anyway, let's talk about O

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Vicula by Radiata, which is the new species of composite

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that was discovered not even a year ago by Deb

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Manley in Big Bend National Park. Deb I had hit

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her up before, a contact her before, because she documents

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all these cool plants. She's always hiking all over the park.

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She basically, I don't know. I forget she told me

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what she did. I forget what it was. But she's

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in the park all the time, just waltzing around, hiking around,

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and it seems like a really pleasant life. And she's

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always seen cool plants. And so she found this tiny

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little member of astracy, this tiny little composite. And you

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can actually look it up on I Naturalist, which I

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suggest you do. I think there's only three observations. What

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is it? Yeah, oh vicula by rate cat. It's amazing.

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That's sold on. Let me go to this what is

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it all? I got filters on here. That's what the

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problem is. I'm so fucking grateful for I'm naturalist. It

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is just it's such, it's so invaluable. I figured out

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this way to create plant lists and uh, you know,

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species lists to put him into like a spreadsheet. Download

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a CSV file using the filters tab on a n

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Ashris and put him into a spreadsheet and you know

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you can have family and genus and species and common

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name all that shit. Anyway, Yeah, three observations mine, Uh

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who is this? Debs? And then some other guy got

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a really nice photo up close macro photo of h

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who's this James Bailey silversea star song anyway? Uh yeah,

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so I think he's but deb found it. And then

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you know, this was on the newswire among all the

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plant nerds and botanists talking about it for a while,

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and so yeah, this guy went out and saw it,

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and uh and then uh I went out and saw it,

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and uh it's fucking wild that grows with Aerocarpus phizzerrats.

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It grows and these low these limestone kind of gentle,

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you know, undulating limestone hills, and uh, yeah, this is

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a great photo. This person got white little white corollas.

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But then the leg you the rays on these thing.

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These things have these like candy cane stripes on them,

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these red striations, and the whole thing is just covered

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in here. It's covered in wool, which is I mean,

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it's it's dense wool. You can barely see any green

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in there. It looks like a cotton swab. When I

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was out there, they were just finishing up. They were

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kind of dry already, and it looked like, uh, you know,

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I would have you could have. Initially, you could have

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been forgiven for thinking at first that what you were

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looking at was like, you know, someone's toilet papered. It

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got stuck on like a vicilia branch, and then the

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wind whipped it up and now you just had these

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little rolled up white cotton pieces of paper all over

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the ground. You could have been forgiven for thinking that,

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because that's what it looked like. But they were readily

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abundant in you know, standing two inches tall if that

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in the rocky talis there the rocky limestone talents. It

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grows in limestone. Obviously, it's Aerocarbus visserrais is out there,

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and plenty of those Innoceramus fossils that Texas bivalve, and

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this thing was it's just nuts that. Yeah. I think

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it's the first plant that's been discovered in a national

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park in fifty years. But still in twenty twenty four

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when this thing was discovered, I mean just that there's

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still new species. I mean, there's of course there's new

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species out there. There's a bunch Matt Berger's found like five.

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You know, my friend Julie has found like six, six

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or seven in California, So there's plenty of stuff out

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there still. But this thing was this thing was really special.

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This was exciting and just totally nuts. So Avicula bi

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radiata they wanted to call it Biligula anomala, but the synanthrologists,

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the people that study astracy, had an issue with it

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because legules. They're trying to they're trying to basically encourage

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people to use the word lgual to refer solely to

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sechorioid e, the chicory subfamily of Astracy, not use the

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word legules to refer to rays like the rays you

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would see on a sunflower or a daisy, et cetera.

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So because people usually just call those legules, that's what

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I would call them. But anyway, uh well, wow, yeah,

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the styles the pistolate flowers, because most of the most

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members of Astracy the ray floor, it's the floor. The

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flowers that are to the rays are just pistolate, and

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so this has very small you can see these little

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styles on there and then the pollen. The staminate flowers

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are in the center with you know, five white corolla lobes.

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But this thing is cool. I mean, it's a fucking

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wild thing, especially how harry and wooly is it came

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out closest to the genus silas strophe or cilostrophe, however

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you want to pronounce it, which is uh, I think

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you get what is cilostrophe? It's in the it's this

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is in the tetra Neurus clay. But cilostrophe. You get

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quite a few in Texas, and you get are there

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any in californ I think there's quite a few in

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California too. How many have I seen? Yeah, tagatina, naphelodes

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and coopry Where do I see coopry? Oh? That was

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in Baja. That was that was on the Viscano Peninsula. Cilostrophe, cooprice.

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So anyway, but there's there's quite a few of them there,

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and they're all wooly and when once you see Selah,

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you know you could see, okay, it's wooly as hell,

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but cilostrophe is normally you know, some of them can

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be eighteen inches tall. I think, is what is this

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a coop ryo? What do you want. I don't think so,

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I can't remember. But but either way, Oh and yeah,

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like I got a I got a nice photo of

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tagatina where it's the whole uh, the whole compound head

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flower head is wooly as ship. It looks like a precursor,

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like a precursor step to two. What was that tagatina

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to this thing towards to a viculous so you could

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see how they kind of diverged, how they diverged from

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a common ancestor. But yeah, man, it's a it's really exciting,

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really exciting news. New species of composite discovered in a

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in a national park. Let me see, yeah, Isaac Isaac

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Mark wrote the uh, where the fuck did this? Think on?

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I just lost the hold on. Let me find this

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there we go, okay, Oh, Vicula by radiata, a new

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genus of composity from Big Ben National Park in Transpicos, Texas.

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Deb Manly, Isaac Lichtor Mark, kiglie Peraltar, Tuo Castro Castro,

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Kelsey Wogan, my friend Kelsey, Carolyn Whiting, and A. Michael Powell,

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the Wizard of the Seuel ross Er Barium, one of

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the best baria in Texas. So but yeah, came out,

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came out close to silostrophe, and I wonder what the

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extent of this thing is too, Like, where else does

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it occur? Because the known population, I think there's only

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one uh this one population, maybe too, but it's got

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to be in other places as well. I mean, there's

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some really remote areas of Big Bend, and part of

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the reason they're remote, it's because they're just if you

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don't go there in the right time of year, they're

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just so fucking hot and dry and uh, you know,

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miserable to being dangerous, dangerous to being But right now

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is a good time to go. Okay, all right, let

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me let's see, we're gonna do something different. I stepped

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away for a minute, you know, I got other ship

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to do besides just talking to you know, on this

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on this podcast, talking to you guys. Anyway, I'm back

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and I feel like kind of masochistic today. So I'm

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gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna play something terrible for you,

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uh that you know, hopefully you will get stuck. You

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will get it stuck in your head and you'll feel

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as bad about it as I do. It really is,

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it's it's horrible it's it should be this, this song

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should be illegal. We're gonna go ahead, change of pace here,

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We're gonna we're gonna check this out.

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Speaker 2: And loves your country.

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Speaker 1: Check this. This is this is this is an audible

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form of genital herpes. If genital herpes, if genital herpes

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could be could be uh manifested into his song, it

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would sound like this. Let's turn it up a little bit.

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Just maybe you maybe you, maybe you get this stuck

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in your head. You get a little earworm. And notice

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that in the video, this man is not playing the guitar,

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He's just holding it. Let's go back to the because

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it was you're a bad asshole working American that loves

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your country. Check this. See that? Did you hear what

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he said? If you're a badass, hard work and American,

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America deserves this. This is punishment. This is divine intervention. Now,

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I've never been very religious. I've been more of a

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spiritual type, but this makes me believe in some sort

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of uh, some sort of you know, divine vengeance. You know,

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America has not been behaving well, you know ever since

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World War Two, all those all those foreign interventions, those coups,

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all this all the things the CIA, this is punishment

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for it, and now for what America has done lately.

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This is I mean, and the guy's whole page. If

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you want to check this out for yourself. I almost

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feel bad. You know, this this man is either this

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is either the most brilliant satire. Uh. This is either

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the most brilliant satire or this is this man is

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mentally ill. And I would say, just judging from how

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prevalent mental illness is in American society today. And I

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fully understand why I'm not being ablest, I'm or Sainist,

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which is I think that's the new word they invented,

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Sainist if you're if you discriminate against those who are

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mentally ill. I'm not being Satanist. I think that this

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is there's a genuine mental health crisis in this country,

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you know, part of part of which stems from the

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fact that we live in ugly shitholes that are dominated

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by car dealerships, billboards, and parking lots, and we're trapped

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in cars we have, you know, we have no connection

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to the living world around us. Mental illness is to

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be prevalent, and you're gonna get shipped like this I mean,

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this guy's whole page. It's like it's thirty reels, thirty

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Instagram reels of just this same song, you know, with

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there's some stock footage. He puts some stock footage of

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people of color in there, you know, because he's this

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man is Caucasian. I don't know if you could tell.

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You know, it's very obvious just listening to this song

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that this man is Caucasian, but he puts some stock

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footage of black and brown people in there too, to

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show America's diversity. And you know he's, uh, it's he's

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wearing a sleeveless T shirt. He's got his hair slicked bad.

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I mean, he looks like Emilio Estevez straight out of

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like the late eighties. I heard this and it was

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it was horrible, horrible. I was in so much pain.

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I had to share it with with everyone I knew

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so that they could get it too. It's like it's

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it's it's like sharing chicken pox with people, which I

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didn't know. I had to xc for it. Now post

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ninety fight, they got a vaccine. It's everywhere, Yeah, the

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things you find on the internet. So that's what I've

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been doing, procrastinating when I'm supposed to be writing my

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book is I've been listening to shit like this. But

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you should really go to this man's Instagram page see

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Wilder w y L d e R Music and read

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the comments. Let's see what some of the comments here are,

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because they are they are. It's amazing. If General Herpes

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was a song, that's me. Uh this is the song

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that plays at the end of a work safety training video.

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Uh uh? Legitimate question? Is this satire? Because I can't

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tell now. I know that the harping on this song

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too long is a distraction from you know, from from botany,

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which is the subject of this podcast. But again, this

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is this is you know, we do a little we

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dabble in anthropology too, and I think this is a

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good reflection of where America is at right now, you know,

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empire and decline right before the collapse. Anyway, gas station

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boner pill vibes. That was another comment. The comments are hilarious.

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So if you know, if you're pulling tubes someday and

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you're you know, you're you're stone out of your mind,

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come here with a friend to this Instagram page read

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the comments together. Hey man, I know there are a

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lot of negative comments in this thread, but that's all

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I wanted to say. I watched this masterpiece four times

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and this can't be real. Who is the fuck encouraged

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this dude to put this out? Wait? Am I going crazy?

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Is this the exact same video as this other one

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but with the background just under a bridge? Now I

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feel like I'm going crazy. Here's a good one. They

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should play this at Guantanamo Bay. It that it? Really

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they should. I'm gonna that's It's a fucking This would torture.

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Can you imagine being waterboarded with you know and uh,

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you know, prodded h and being forced to listen to

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this song for days, for fucking days. It's not turned off.

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You're strapped, you're cold, you're wet, it's damp, it's dark,

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there's mold on the concrete walls, and you're forced to

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listen to this. This would be torture. Instagram recommended that

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I edit my Wait what Instagram recommended that I edit

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my comments? I don't catch a band. Just know I

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roasted the hell out of you. That's not that good.

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This song made me want to take up communism if

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Acid Reflux were a song, get this man? A passport.

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This song made me root for Canada in the Four

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Nations tournament. I don't get that off. You know, this

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is I mean, this is bad. It's really it's it hurts.

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This is hurting me. I hope it's hurting you too,

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because you know, we all got to share in this

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paint together. Here's a good one. I was in the Marines.

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I'd like to think that I fought for everyone in

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the country except this guy. The mix on the vocals

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could use a little work, But other than that, this

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song sucks. This song makes me wish I had joined

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the military and got killed in action so I didn't

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have to hear it. This is the musical equivalent of

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a pizza party from man. That's a good one. A

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pizza party from management. I remember when the railroad, this

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must have been twenty fourteen or something. They threw us, ay,

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they announced it like a month before, and they were

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so proud of themselves. They were throwing us like a

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party at workday. And they were gonna have a track

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in the yard with this the Officer Special train in it,

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and they were gonna give us barbecue and all this shit.

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And then as the weeks progressed. It's slowly the incentives

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and what they were offering slowly diminished, Like we're gonna

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give you hot dogs turned into like microwave hot dogs

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to we're just gonna give you like a bag lunch.

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It's like, you know, you're better off just not showing

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appreciation for employees at all. You know, just give us

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like a swift, you know, booted kick to the groin.

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Let's see youth group pastor who definitely tries to groom

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teenage girls personified. That could be That could be a

467
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,920
decent one. Oh, here's another one. There are a lot

468
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,279
of haters in here, but I genuinely hope you get

469
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,799
a bola. That was a good one. You go there

470
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:20,400
and read the comments. I mean, this is really brutal.

471
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,759
We're gonna go to another We're gonna go to another

472
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:26,119
Instagram reel here that I really like this one. Okay,

473
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240
this one. This is an ad for something called the

474
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,880
brush bullet. The brush bullet, the brush bullet, and it's

475
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,960
a gun that you shoot at trees. It's like a

476
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,720
little paintball sized capsule of herbicide. You shoot it at

477
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:43,039
the tree, it drops, and then the next time it rains,

478
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,920
which doesn't happen too much in Texas these days. The

479
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,319
rain washes the erbside into the roots and it kills

480
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,240
the tree. Now, what we're seeing here is a man

481
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:57,279
which is given very Time of Finland vibes. He's in

482
00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:00,200
a cowboy hat. He's in a gray polo shirt with

483
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,680
a collar tucked in to uh to, some some beige

484
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,880
jeans with a little a big buckle on it, and

485
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,279
some tactical style military boots. His package is accentuated. This

486
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,319
is why I'm not imagining the Time of Finland thing here.

487
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000
This is real. Okay, this is real. He looks like

488
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:21,799
a good Christian man. He's holding this what looks like

489
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,680
a paintball gun filled with the brush bullet, with many

490
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,319
brash bullets. And he's referring to you know, native species

491
00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:32,799
like juniper and mesquite as invisives. And you know, to

492
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:34,920
be honest, this man doesn't seem that bad. I would

493
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,640
talk to him, you know, I uh, you know, I

494
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,720
I've been living in Texas for four years. Takes all kinds.

495
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,319
I've I've seen people that I never had seen before,

496
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,480
you know, like this guy. And I said, you know,

497
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:53,160
he's not that bad, just don't get it talking about religion, politics,

498
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,240
A number of subjects here are offully. You don't want

499
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,359
to talk about him with this guy, because you're gonna

500
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,319
hear it. It's the same thing if you start, you know, yeah,

501
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,359
the same reason I wouldn't talk to like, I wouldn't

502
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:05,880
bring those subjects up with someone who's like twenty two

503
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,880
and goes to fucking Evergreen or something, you know, and

504
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,400
as a septum piercing the size of a fucking uh

505
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,880
shower curtain ring, you know, no offense to anybody would

506
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,599
have accept the piercing out there. I just I had

507
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,000
a sept up piercing when I was nine, no, nineteen,

508
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,839
Excuse me. My parents weren't that loose. My mom wasn't

509
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,400
that loose. Uh. I had a you know, I stuck one.

510
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:29,000
I stuck a fucking staple through my nose. I had

511
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,920
one of those for a while. But back then it

512
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,599
wasn't It didn't have the connotations it has now. You

513
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:37,279
know what I mean, where you're about to get lectured

514
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,720
on your moral Okay, anyway, let's just listen to this

515
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:42,400
thing on the brush bullet. All right, this is America today.

516
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,000
I like holding a mirror up to the cultural zeitgeist

517
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,240
to the country, and especially for any Canadians or you know,

518
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:55,599
people in South America and ey Chileans, Brazilians, Australians who

519
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,559
might be listening. I just want you to know how

520
00:29:57,599 --> 00:29:59,880
far we've fallen. So this is part of all that.

521
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,000
This is why I'm doing this little crime Pays anthropology section.

522
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,279
Here we go. I had been in the.

523
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,599
Speaker 2: Brush bullet for myself, but I think it might be

524
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,319
something you might like if you've got invasive species like me.

525
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,720
So what it looks like. It looks like a musket ball.

526
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,240
When you shoot the trees, the tree catches it, drops

527
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,160
it on the ground, and then it rains, and then

528
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,880
the rain dissolves the bullet and it's pulled up by

529
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,079
the tree and kills the tree. So say, if you've

530
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:32,200
got junipers or mesquites or yuka or choria, this might

531
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,920
be something y'all look out of my cell because it's

532
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,200
easy to do, easy carry pickup.

533
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,039
Speaker 1: You don't even get out of the trees in the morning,

534
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:42,799
eve you gotta get out of your picket. You can

535
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,240
just rub yourself in the pileup while you're shooting stuff

536
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,079
with your brush book. You get your shoot, You get

537
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:48,839
your shoot them with your You don't even got to

538
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,599
get out your picket. You can just sit there and

539
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,039
your vinyl lembies, touching yourself, rubbing your thigh, admiring you're

540
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:58,160
on package while you're shooting the brush bullet. Now, some

541
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,759
people don't like the brush bullet, and I would say

542
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,519
they must. They just must be homosexuals. It's a homosexual thing.

543
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:07,839
I don't know why you wouldn't enjoy it, this brush bullet.

544
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,039
Some sort of you know, lib tard, homosexual libtard. You know,

545
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:17,559
we do things a little different down here. All right.

546
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,599
I'm wearing vinyl underwear. They're sloppy as hell. I'm sweating

547
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,519
like a horror in church, all sweating like a pig,

548
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,519
rubbing myself my truck, shooting a brush bullet out by

549
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:36,400
wearing these vinyl panties. Don't hate oh God? So uh okay, anyway,

550
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880
where were we? Now that's enough for that. This, you know,

551
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,440
it's ten minutes of the anthropological mirror of the current

552
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:51,279
American mind state. So anyway, in other news, we were

553
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:54,119
out at Thorn Scrub again. We're going out there every weekend.

554
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,680
We got pig problems. They dig up Mammalarius sphericau. They

555
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,880
you know, they mess with the payoti a little bit too,

556
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,240
but they dig up Mammalaria spherica. It's a really cute

557
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:08,119
little cactus. It can form these massive clumps, you know,

558
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,359
the size of a basketball, maybe a little bit bigger

559
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:16,039
in some cases. Yellow spines, prominent nipple like tubercles, and

560
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,039
big succulent roots. And so the pigs go out there

561
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:23,440
and they uproot this stuff and then eat the roots.

562
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,160
And because it doesn't have any alkaloids in it, it's

563
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,480
just got spines, and I like peyote as alkaloids, but

564
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:31,640
they've even been going for peyote. But you know, you'll

565
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,039
see the peyote where they bite it and then leave

566
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,319
it because it probably tastes terrible, but it still kills

567
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,680
the plant, or at least it's it's left to slowly die.

568
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,759
But the Mammalaria has really been taken hit because they

569
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,440
go and they eat the roots and then they just

570
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,920
leave it. They just leave the tops of the plant

571
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,119
and there's still enough succulent tissue in there for it

572
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,839
to form new roots. But you know, they normally leave

573
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,480
them unburied and upside down, and you know, So we

574
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:02,839
go out there with a five gallon bucket because we

575
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,160
got like one hundred and fifty acres and we go

576
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,319
and we we picked these things up, and some guy

577
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,000
is gonna come out there with a thermal drone, thank god.

578
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Uh and uh and hopefully we'll find out where the

579
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,720
pigs are and where they lurk and uh and we're

580
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:21,599
gonna shoot all of them. So it's you know there,

581
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,960
it's it's really bad. I mean, the best answer would

582
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,559
be defence the entire property, not just barbed wire, but

583
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:31,400
you know, fence it to like four feet, so deer

584
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,759
and coyotes can still get in and out, but pigs can't.

585
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:37,799
And if they do, if they're somehow able to push

586
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,400
the fence open, because normally you bury the hog panel

587
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,559
a few inches right, and so they they could still

588
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,000
get through if they really want to. But then you know,

589
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:50,480
you'll be able to find out where they are, patch

590
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:53,039
it up and uh. And then we got a pig

591
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,240
trap too. But this is a this is a problem

592
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,359
I did not foresee. We got we need to raise

593
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,960
money to get a well, and we need to raise

594
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,200
money for we were getting a shade structure out there.

595
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,480
We need to raise money for fencing. So but it was,

596
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:12,000
you know, it was a lovely day. It's really nice

597
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,719
in South Texas now, I mean highs in the upper seventies,

598
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,519
low eighties. The sand hill cranes came by. We were

599
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:23,159
out there. I didn't expect that, you know, in the

600
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,639
sand hill cranes, above the Payota Gardens, above the tam

601
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,800
of leap in thorns grub of South Texas. That call

602
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:34,079
is unmistakable. Giant giant birds, beautiful birds. They get some

603
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,000
attitude too, And so I guess they were going to

604
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:42,000
a punter. Some I saw really cool? Was it? Oh?

605
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,119
It was it Chihuahuan night snake, not the Texas night snake.

606
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,639
What is this? Oh maybe that's just oh, it's the

607
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,159
same thing. Never mind, I guess are the same thing?

608
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,800
Is that the same thing? Yeah, Chihuahuan night snake. Hipsiglina Jenni,

609
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,199
Jenny Jenny. But we were moving some logs for fencing.

610
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,880
It was too cold for this thing to be out.

611
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,840
Not cold, but you know, it wasn't warm enough. And

612
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,360
I found this little coiled up almost looked like a millipede, first,

613
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,480
one of those giant millipedes, but it was this beautiful

614
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,559
little knight snake that could fit calmly, you know, easily

615
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:25,039
in the palm of your hand, with room, with room

616
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:28,760
to spare. Really cool eyes on this thing. Too harmless

617
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:33,920
and totally harmless. And it was just lurking there under

618
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,360
a log. But out there we were mainly stretching fence

619
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,800
around like a four hundred and ten foot section containing

620
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,679
some of the densest densest cactus population that we want

621
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,199
to protect from pigs. And that's where, you know, we'll

622
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,960
put some of the Mammillaria spherica that we collected in

623
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,679
the five gallon bucket. I'm gonna, you know, take them,

624
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:01,760
root them and then plant them back in the ground. Uh.

625
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,880
And for you know, for watering, I guess we'll just

626
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,800
be taking five gallon five gallon jugs or something out there.

627
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,960
I don't know, but uh. But yeah, there's a lot

628
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,159
of work to do. But it's it's such nice habitat

629
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,840
to see and it's just it always blows my mind

630
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,800
the amount of just barren ground, this barren silty sandy

631
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,920
clay with nothing on it. I mean, there's huge barren

632
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:29,280
patches of ground between the understory, right because you got

633
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,000
I mean the dominant tree out there is misky. There's

634
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,800
citarox line too. I saw a Texas ebony out there,

635
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:41,599
Ebanopsis sabano so legumes, and then a handful of other trees.

636
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:43,559
But these trees don't get tall. They get like ten

637
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:44,559
feet tall. Max.

638
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

639
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot butch which is Zizyphus of two soofolia.

640
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,079
It's a buck thorn ramnacy. You get it as far

641
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:56,400
west as California, as eastern California as well. Very spiny,

642
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:59,239
and that's that's like one of the saving graces for

643
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,760
a lot of the smaller cacti out there is that

644
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,719
this loat bush is like a barbed wire that protects

645
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,480
them from getting damaged by pigs. But the pigs are bad.

646
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:11,599
You got to use the thermal drone. So this guy

647
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:14,840
is gonna come out with this thermal drone. Very kind

648
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,639
gentleman offered to come out and uh find them and

649
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,480
kind of see where they're at and then shoot them.

650
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,760
But this thing is like, you know, it's just technology.

651
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,920
I wasn't even aware. I mean, I knew it exists,

652
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,400
but I've never seen it. I mean, I've these things

653
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,039
come up hot. You could see them. You know, like

654
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,519
a scorpion under a UV light, You ever done that,

655
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,719
You should get a three hundred and sixty five nanimeter,

656
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,599
not the three ninety five nanimeter. Get the three sixty

657
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:45,079
five nanimeter UV black light flashlight, which is what Alan

658
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,440
is always carrying around, carrying around everywhere. You know, it's

659
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,440
just basically a chemical test and seeing if there's chemicals

660
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,159
in whatever you're shining the light at that that fluoresce

661
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,679
UV light. And then he was saying, you know, in

662
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,440
deserts you don't see it a lot because there's so

663
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:08,960
much cuticle uh and and waxy protective coverings, et cetera

664
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,559
to protect a lot of the plants from exposure to UV.

665
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,960
But a lot of lichens will fluoresce a lot of

666
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,440
the time, and scorpions of course do as well. But

667
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,239
you know, when we were in the Amazon and the

668
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:29,760
darker habitat, everything was seemingly fluorescent under UV. The fucking

669
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,800
cave was wild too. We found some something that it

670
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:39,239
was a phosphorescent so it stayed, it stayed lit, uh

671
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:42,679
it it it you know, you could charge it up

672
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,760
with the UV light and then it would continue. You know,

673
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,679
it was a glow in the dark, this material on

674
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:54,159
this wall, and uh, Ethan who has access to a

675
00:38:54,199 --> 00:39:00,280
scanning electron microscope and some other utensils, took it, took

676
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,639
a collected a sample of this this material. This this

677
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,079
was like this white material looked like drugs. Honestly, it

678
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:11,559
was on the wall of this cave and uh looked

679
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:14,159
at it and it turned out to be very obviously

680
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,639
human made. But it wasn't smear. It was like smeared

681
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,079
on there. I don't know what it was. I don't

682
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:22,800
know how it got there, but it was. It was

683
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,199
made of compounds that are totally synthetic. And uh, you know,

684
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,440
we thought it was like a natural phosphorescent material on

685
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,800
the wall of this cave. And I guess in some

686
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,400
places there are there are phosphorescent minerals. There was like

687
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,920
a phosphorescent calcite somebody had mentioned that day that was

688
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,599
on the wall of a cave in Colorado. Very interesting stuff.

689
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,159
But you know, the the the whole, uh, the it

690
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:50,840
was like a natural glow in the dark. You could

691
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,199
charge it up and it would continue emanating light. God,

692
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,880
that fucking cave was great. Oh my god. The whips scorpion,

693
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,320
what do they call those things? The those giant like

694
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,000
eight foot eight not eight foot, scuse me, eight inch, God,

695
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,920
that would be amazing. Eight inch wide legs more like

696
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,360
ten inch. These things are massive. They look terrifying, like,

697
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,239
you know, like some hr Giga risk creature out of

698
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,480
one of the Alien movies. And there are raknids, but

699
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:20,480
they don't have any they're totally harmless. You can let

700
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,199
them crawl on your face. But I saw one of

701
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,199
those just hanging out super chill on this boulder in

702
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,280
this cave. And then there was a lot of Cordyceps

703
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,400
fungi that kills spiders in that cave too, And you

704
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,480
would just see like this little two inch tall red

705
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:40,599
tongue picking out of the mud which was probably half

706
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:44,119
back guano. Very sketchy, you know, if you're a hypochondriac,

707
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,239
very sketchy place to be. And there's running there's running

708
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,880
water too, like a little river in the cave, like

709
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,679
a little creek. Really cool. God, it was amazing. And

710
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:01,559
then Bogonia is all outside Bogonias and ox ecuador insis

711
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:04,800
or what was the exile speci I'll look it up later,

712
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:10,639
Oxalis equid or something growing lithophytically on the rock walls

713
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:14,199
of the above the cave entrance, but the cave was wild,

714
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,880
and yeah, there were these cave crickets too, which I

715
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,760
assume are just eating guano. All this stuff's on my

716
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,159
eye naturalist. If you want to look at them, I'm

717
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:24,719
sure you can just type in cave cricket or or

718
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,559
a whip scorpion. You know what, I'll I'll look it

719
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:31,360
up for you now, so we'll get you a genus

720
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,480
and species name by the entomology thing. I'm really I'm

721
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,079
really getting starting to get into it a little bit.

722
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,199
I got that giant insect book that tome you could

723
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,079
hit someone in the head with. It's like a twelve pounder. Okay,

724
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:47,880
spider crickets and allies family felling gopsody. Yeah, no one's

725
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,320
identified it down to the species or even genus. Got

726
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,159
these things looked weird, these little crickets. They got like

727
00:41:56,199 --> 00:42:00,239
a white head this foot women wait for this photo

728
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,480
to Yeah, God, what a weird. They're very obviously crickets,

729
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:08,280
but they look fucking bizarre, and they were everywhere, and

730
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
you know, they've probably they're probably able to eat bat iguano,

731
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,800
and so because of that, now they themselves are composing

732
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,119
the base of this whole food chain inside this cave,

733
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,280
fast calling tree cricket. Oh I forgot I signed it.

734
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,360
Oh that's that's a wonderful one. Those are the one

735
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:30,280
that's my that's my ambiyond ambiyonce wave machine outside my door.

736
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:35,559
Oh canthus seller and nick this O E C A

737
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,840
N T h U s Oh can't this? Oh? Wow?

738
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,360
You know the yainamol jisse by an asturalists. Thank you,

739
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:46,320
thank you for for figuring out what what we're all

740
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,239
looking at here? All right, let's talk about neotropical palms

741
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,719
family Eric Casey aureka ac after the genus Arika, which

742
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,719
what is this? Is this an old world? You got

743
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,679
some of the in the in Central America? Are they native?

744
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,199
I don't know. A lot of these tropical genera are pantropical.

745
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,239
They're all over, you know, due to ocean currents and stuff.

746
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,119
So anyway, the palm diversity, I'm int the palms now

747
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,599
I have a new found appreciation for them. It's definitely

748
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,239
one of those families that was ruined for me early

749
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,159
on by they're really nearly use in horticulture. There's many

750
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,559
horticultural atrocities in his family right, plants that are just

751
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:37,480
overused and put into landscaping in places where they shouldn't be, right,

752
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:42,360
like many suburban cul de Sact communities in Arizona. Places.

753
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,679
I would want to shoot myself if I had to

754
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,760
live there, No offense to anybody. Florida. Same thing if

755
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,599
I had to live in like a suburban cul desect

756
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:54,079
in Florida, I would also want to drink Dreno gargle,

757
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:59,519
dreno right, gargle Mitch McConnell's balls. Jesus Christ, that's terrible.

758
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,000
I don't know where it came from. Sorry, is that

759
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,880
guy still alive? I don't know anyway, check his pulse.

760
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,440
Many horrible, horrible uses of these things in horticulture, but

761
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,239
it's not their fault. Right, Like to see queen palms

762
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,920
where their native would probably be cool, right, Whereas the

763
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,559
only time I want to see them here in South

764
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:22,320
Texas is if they're dead in someone's front yard, having

765
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,920
recently died from a freeze. You know, a queen palm

766
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,119
standing like a burnt candle or perhaps a dildo, a

767
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:34,800
consolid door on a turf composed of half dead Saint

768
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,079
Augustine grass. Right, it's like pushing the boulder uphill. It's

769
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,440
going to come down on you one day and kill you.

770
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:44,960
But keep doing it despite how hard it is. Right,

771
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,639
That's kind of what the lawn is in general. It's

772
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:50,280
just it's ridiculous. It can't go. It can't get by

773
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,320
without constant watering and pesticides and herbicides, and you know,

774
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,159
you're literally poisoning the ground that you're walking on, that

775
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,599
your kids are playing on. But it's worth it so

776
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:04,960
he can have that nice, living outdoor green carpet. Anyway,

777
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,280
I digress. The palm family is uh, these things were.

778
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,039
The palm trees were everywhere, and some really cool species.

779
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320
Astro Carrium chambira was one of them. It's one it's

780
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,840
used for fiber. They make these nice little bags, some

781
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,719
of which are died. I would love to know what

782
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,679
they're dying with. We saw these little bags in the market,

783
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,280
these little uh you know, these little bags walk around.

784
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,800
You got Cruise out there. He's walking around like some

785
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,360
sort of you know, fucking modern day psychedelic hath no bodanist.

786
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,079
Then his flip flops. I don't know how he's not

787
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:40,920
worried about getting hip by the mosquitos because that's that

788
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,519
would be the first thing I worried about. You gotta

789
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,199
put oil on your feet. I'd becover my feet and vasseline,

790
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,360
keep the fucking mosquitoes off them, and also just the

791
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,880
grows out the general public. And he's out there walking

792
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,559
around with a bag made of astro carrium chambira. You know,

793
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,800
unassuming Cruise, a friend of mine, you know, looking all

794
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,280
hippie dippy with his sandals and his astra carry jambira

795
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,400
and his facial hair. I love you, Cruise. I'm just

796
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,079
joking around, so, you know, but he was. He's The

797
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:13,199
Astrocarrium chambira is the material, the fibers that are used

798
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:17,440
to construct these wonderful bags. Right, they use the leaves

799
00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:20,960
to make uh, the make bags. The fibers basically come

800
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,920
from the leaves, you know. So the young, unopened leaves

801
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:29,559
at astrocarrium chambira palm are harvested, the fibers are extracted.

802
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:32,519
You strip the leaves, you dry them, you process them,

803
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,039
uh and uh. And these fibers are strong. I mean,

804
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:37,920
it makes sense because a lot of these palms in

805
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,599
the Amazon have fucking huge leaves, right, They've got to

806
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:46,239
be flexible. But they've also got to not completely come apart,

807
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,719
you know, from the from the elements from wind and

808
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,239
things like that. So they these are these are highly

809
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,320
durable fibers, great fiber palms. So it's you know, God,

810
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880
the fucking ethnobody done and the ethno boton? I see why,

811
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:02,880
you know, like, uh, I still got to read that

812
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,280
book One River. I haven't finished it. There's a section

813
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,239
on the Payote gardens in there. I wasn't expecting that

814
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,760
I was reading this book. I pirated it on anaz

815
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,360
archive because libgen is down apparently, or I think there's

816
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,320
libgen there's some other what is the fucking hole on?

817
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,199
Let me get this for you. Yeah, lib gen that

818
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,480
gs is still up. Libgen dot is is down. This

819
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:25,960
is heartbreaking for me. I tried to use libgen dot

820
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,400
gs yesterday. It wasn't working. You know. I may have

821
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:32,679
uploaded some stuff there for the good of the general public.

822
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
I certainly did not upload that out of print nine

823
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:40,079
hundred dollars on Amazon legumes book? What is it? Legumes

824
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:41,760
that are worth a fucking tome? I forget the name

825
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,559
of it. I'm sorry, I'm getting turned up. I'm really

826
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:45,679
you know, I gotta get outside. I got to go

827
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:47,280
on a run or something. After this, it's be I

828
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,880
got to enjoy this South Texas uh spring before it's over,

829
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,760
you know, in three weeks and it's ninety degrees again,

830
00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:59,559
ninety's not that bad. Actually, you know it's gonna be

831
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:02,480
a brutal summer. We're in a drought too. You know,

832
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:06,360
stuff's gonna start dying. I was, I was, My daughter

833
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,000
and I were flying the drone around our neighborhood yesterday,

834
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,000
and it's you go to like the park area and

835
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:15,000
like the place about irrigation canals, like looking at them,

836
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,159
and it's just barren soil, Like the same barren soil

837
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:19,480
I was talking about earlier that we have at Thorn Scrub,

838
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,199
And you look at that, like big patches of just

839
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,840
beige barren soil that was probably covered in cool native

840
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,079
cacti only one hundred and fifty years ago. And then

841
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:31,599
you you'd see that and you wonder, why the fuck

842
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,679
are people trying to have lawns here. It's a sick cult.

843
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,920
It's sick. They don't know any better, though. Be mad.

844
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,800
You could be mad at the the ideology, but at

845
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,320
the people. You just got to convince them you know,

846
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:46,559
you've got to convince them you don't want that stuff.

847
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,880
You got to get rid of that stuff. Why don't you,

848
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,760
Why don't you? Why don't you try this stuff? We

849
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,800
got this stuff. This stuff's pretty nice. You want to

850
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,440
try some of this stuff? Right? Like a drug pusher,

851
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,960
all right, but not malevolent. You're getting people hooked on

852
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:03,320
something good, right. I planted that. I convinced my neighbor,

853
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,000
you know, someone who very obviously didn't give a shit

854
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,800
about their yard. I mean, they mowed it and everything,

855
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,719
but it was barren as fuck. And I said, you

856
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,159
want the cegave. I got the segave. I caught her

857
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:14,679
right as she was rolling up get out of her

858
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,599
car coming back from work. I said, you want I

859
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:19,000
got this extra and I didn't. I picked a nice

860
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,519
looking one too, because I've been planning the gaves everywhere,

861
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:23,880
because it's just fucking it's the easiest thing to do

862
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,599
a gaves, and prickly pairs can root them easily, dime

863
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,000
a dozen. They get destroyed. Who gives a shit? I said,

864
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:36,239
you want this? She said, eh, sure, great, I'm there. Okay.

865
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,039
I picked a nice one, the one that looked good,

866
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:39,480
not the one that was all twisted and had the

867
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:41,920
leaves fucked up, or maybe I you know, when I

868
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,119
was pulling it off the mother plant, you know, from

869
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:45,960
an offset from an agave I got in the ground,

870
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,719
I might have damaged the leaves. I picked a nice one, right,

871
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,840
like a sellable one, which I don't do. They don't

872
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,400
I don't do that. But you know, I gave it

873
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,960
a nice one so she couldn't turn it down. So

874
00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,280
I fucking rode by it today when I was taking

875
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,639
a dog for a bike riding, and I've seen it,

876
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:05,320
and I said, that's that looks fucking nice. Like I

877
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,039
see that yard, it makes me less depressed. Like but

878
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:12,599
because you see like a a mode lawn, I get depressed.

879
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,719
I feel pangs of pain and anxiety. I said, God,

880
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,920
that fucking sucks. God. I hate the fucking world I

881
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,760
live in. Oh what if humans done? You know? I said,

882
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,519
So those are my thoughts when I see that, Like

883
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:26,840
I see the fucking the personal injury attorney billboards, and

884
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,320
I just I want to drink bleach, right, I want

885
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,559
to vandalize them. I feel negative. I feel negative thoughts.

886
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,760
If you feel negative thoughts, it's okay, it's normal. If

887
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,320
you're in this society, right, you know, I mean, you

888
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,639
don't act on them unless you're doing you know, small

889
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:47,519
scale petty vandalism to things like billboards, you don't act

890
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:50,559
on them unless you're doing that. But it's okay to

891
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:53,880
feel that. It's okay to feel. Let's talk about our

892
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,719
deal with our feeling. It's okay to feel negative things.

893
00:50:57,639 --> 00:50:59,559
When you look around at the world that we live

894
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,400
in the United States, the world we've made, it's ugly,

895
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,599
it's disgusting, all right. It holds up rich fools as

896
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:12,400
heroes and it, uh, you know, it's just poison it.

897
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,199
You don't want that stuff. You don't want that stuff.

898
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,039
Get a fucking lawn. Get out of here with that.

899
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:19,519
What do you want that you live in a fucking

900
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,960
desert while you're trying to do this, when you're trying

901
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,239
to have a lawn and in your spring, poison on it? God,

902
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:29,639
you know so? But uh, you know these are this

903
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,639
is my thoughts. But I don't verbalize some very polite,

904
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,880
very polite, and I'm slowly planting shit all around my block,

905
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,360
through my neighborhood wherever. Not gonna stop. You just you know,

906
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,719
you just gotta you just gotta get it, get it

907
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,920
in the right way. It's like I'm planting shit everyhere.

908
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,840
You should do that too. Everybody should do that. Off

909
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,119
you see some some fucking somebody with the You see

910
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:57,800
a citizen with a lawn, and maybe they don't care

911
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,920
about it. They just pay someone to come by once

912
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:02,920
every few weeks and mow it down so it doesn't

913
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,199
look out of control, so the city doesn't mess with them.

914
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:07,320
You offer, you say, hey, how about this, you want

915
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,440
somebody I could do this. I'll maintain it. Ask your neighbors,

916
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:15,480
hit them up right, make it and don't do it

917
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,840
in a way that that you know, they could be peep,

918
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,199
be pushy, be politely pushy. So I just like seeing

919
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,679
this stuff. I don't I really don't mind. I'm not

920
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,400
trying to get in. I'm not trying to like, you know,

921
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:28,400
slip in a hidden cost afterwards or something. I just

922
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,800
I just want to see this because it's you know,

923
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,440
it's nice. It's nice, it's nice. Your lawn isn't nice.

924
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,159
The lawn makes me depressed. It's a cult of death.

925
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,480
So uh, anyway, where were we talking about it. We're

926
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,599
talking about palms. So anyway, the moral of The story

927
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:47,519
is download One River by Wade Davis or purchase it

928
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:49,119
if you need a hard copy. You really got to

929
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:50,960
get out on this tablet thing, though, because you just

930
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,079
get a decent tablet like a Samsung or something, or

931
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:58,039
your your iPad whatever shit. And uh, I just start

932
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:00,760
downloading PDFs, you know, and if some only available in

933
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,679
like epub or DjVu, use a file converter to convert

934
00:53:03,679 --> 00:53:06,079
at the PDFs. I like PDFs, and then I use

935
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:09,639
the app called read Era, which lets you bookmark and

936
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,199
highlight stuff and you know, you can reference it later.

937
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:19,000
It's really nice. So anyway, Anna's Anna's archive One River

938
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,960
by Way Davis. It's about Richard Schulte's and at the

939
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:25,159
Botanist then all this stuff he did everywhere he went.

940
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,000
Interesting stuff. There's a I think it's chapter two or

941
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,239
three is about the Peyote gardens and his work with

942
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,119
the Native American Church. Really really cool stuff. So anyway,

943
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:40,440
we were talking about Astrocaryum chambia, a common palm used

944
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,559
for the fibers that it creates making these wonderful bags

945
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,760
in the market. And when you look at this palm, yeah,

946
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,400
the leaves are huge. I'm looking. I got in at

947
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,880
observations and the whole quote trunk because remember, palms aren't

948
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,320
really trees there, right. If you cut a cross section

949
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,400
of a palm open and compared to the cross section

950
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,000
is something like an oak, an oak will have growth rings.

951
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,079
A palm will have vascular bundles, bundles polka dotted throughout

952
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:11,039
that cross section. The vascular bundles of course, consisting of

953
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:14,039
xylum and flow them. Xylem takes water up, floam takes

954
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:21,400
sugars down and back up and all around passive transport

955
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,239
for the xylum, active transport for to flow them right, right,

956
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,920
So anyway you get the vascular bundles scattered throughout, there's

957
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,280
no growth rings. And palms they're not technically trees, like

958
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,840
maybe they are right good, but they're not. They're they

959
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,800
don't have secondary growth, is what I'm trying to say, right,

960
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,320
Some of the monocots get anomalous secondary growth. Palms don't

961
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:48,400
get wider, right, I mean they do kind of from

962
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,039
a ceiling, but then they reach a certain width at

963
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:54,760
maturity and just stay that for the rest of their

964
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,239
lives and just grow up. They can only grow up

965
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,719
and down, not out like oaks or maple trees or

966
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:07,559
any diekot or conifer tree. Can more on this later,

967
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,599
but but anyway, Astrocarrium chambira, this trunk is covered in

968
00:55:11,639 --> 00:55:17,239
these spines, these like papery spines. It looks like they're

969
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:24,840
much wider than they are, much wider than they are tall,

970
00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:30,199
and so it'll be like, you know, what millimeter a

971
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,920
millimeter quote tall if you've got this thing laid out

972
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,280
on a table, one of these spines, like if you

973
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,679
cut it off from the tree laid on the table,

974
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,480
it'd be a millimeter tall and like you know, ten

975
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,239
centimeters long. So obviously there was a selection pressure of

976
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:49,079
herbivores chewing on these things, probably now extinct megafauna like

977
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:53,920
ground sloths, maybe some other things too. There used to

978
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,559
be monkeys all throughout this region too, and now they're

979
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:01,119
very rare, like common wooly monkeys. We met one of them.

980
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:04,679
His name was Pepe. This couple in an indigenous community

981
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,679
was raising him. Very lovely little little guy. But they're

982
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,639
rare now. And I guess though that species, I think

983
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:14,519
there's like ten thousand left or something. And my friend

984
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,159
Dna told me that, you know, as a kid, she

985
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,039
grew up and she see monkeys everywhere, and now you

986
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:22,880
don't see him anymore. Does that sound familiar? The same

987
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,519
shit you hear everywhere you go in the world where

988
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:28,880
there's a growing human population. It's just what we do, right,

989
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,079
like with the disappearing tarantulus and horned lizards and texas

990
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:36,079
and you know, nobody seems to notice. A few people

991
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:38,880
seem to care. It's the shifting baseline syndrome. This is

992
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,280
why we've got to bring all this shit back into

993
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,960
our lives. This is how you do it. You plant

994
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,119
the plants and everything else will come. You make space

995
00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:51,400
for it, and kill those stupid fucking lawns and get

996
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,880
rid of the horticultural atrocities that have a place five

997
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,079
thousand miles away but not here right Like crape myrtles.

998
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,320
You could get the brush bullet and shoot a crape myrtle.

999
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,519
You can just go around. That's it. That's it, Okay,

1000
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,679
remember the brush bullet. I played that Instagram reel for

1001
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,880
you with the redneck with the package no offense to him.

1002
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,440
Probably wonderful man goes to church on Sunday's great Guy.

1003
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,360
But remember that from only thirty minutes prior in the

1004
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,639
podcast You could get the brush bullet and use it

1005
00:57:19,679 --> 00:57:24,119
on things like crape myrtles, box woods, Bradford pears. You

1006
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:27,719
are poisoning the ground, but it's a temporary poison, and

1007
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,119
it's it's it's for the greater good. Walk around, Just

1008
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,639
walk around town, or you know, get if you get

1009
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,559
a car full of teens together, give him a gun,

1010
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,960
paintball gun loaded with brush bullets, and just have him

1011
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,960
go shoot the landscaping in a rich neighborhood, right, shoot

1012
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,599
it up into the canopy of the Bradford pears, the

1013
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:54,000
crape myrtles et cetera, the box woods, the Nandina domestica,

1014
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:59,400
the berberous thunbergie eye, the Japanese barberries. I just use

1015
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,679
the brush, Just use the brush bullet to start taking

1016
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:04,159
these things down, right, I mean you should be doing

1017
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:11,079
that anyway. Just start just start vandalizing crape myrtles everywhere. No,

1018
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:14,239
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. That's not how we

1019
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,639
institute changed. Start talking about planting natives. Start gorilla planting natives,

1020
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:26,760
unauthorized planting of natives. Anyway, God it, Hey, crape myrtles,

1021
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,639
the brush bullet. You don't even have to leave your

1022
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:33,159
truck and you're sitting there in your vinyl panties findeling

1023
00:58:33,239 --> 00:58:35,519
yourself and shooting the brush bull. Okay, I'm sorry, I

1024
00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:38,280
don't know where I keep going back to that. Okay.

1025
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:43,639
So Astrocarrium chambira covered in spines, the trunk can get

1026
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:47,360
upwards of the trunk. This main stem can get upwards

1027
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,599
of like a foot foot and a half diameter breast height,

1028
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,000
and then just those huge leaves which are so important

1029
00:58:53,079 --> 00:59:02,079
for making fiber. Astrocarrium chambira also bactiss gas apace gasippies gasippees,

1030
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:07,599
but it looks like gasipece bactress gasippies, which uh had these?

1031
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:10,199
When all the ones I saw around where we were

1032
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:13,559
staying at had these hanging nests by our apendulus in

1033
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:17,119
them ari apendulus. Uh sound like this. I'll play your

1034
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:18,880
song real I'll play it your song real quick. It

1035
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:37,000
was so so lovely to hear. God, I love it.

1036
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,440
And it was two separate birds, one calling and then

1037
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:50,320
the other responded to it. This is one more time,

1038
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:53,880
Just play one more time. Isn't that nice? Where are

1039
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,760
you at right now? You like hearing? Is where you're at?

1040
00:59:57,159 --> 01:00:07,440
I hope you're not someplace too unpleasant oropendula O R

1041
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:15,760
O p E and d O l A. Okay, now

1042
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,119
here's one I found online. Listen to this. This is

1043
01:00:18,159 --> 01:00:40,559
really nice. Sounds like a hammer drill. Oh. I see

1044
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:44,400
palms in the background. I see some of those neotropical

1045
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,440
palms in the back. I see the hanging baskets everywhere,

1046
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,719
the little hanging basket in I see. You don't have

1047
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:55,280
to be where you're at now. You could go to Puyo, Ecuador.

1048
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,039
You can go to Mirror. You have a nice time

1049
01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:00,119
down there. You get out of the car slam and

1050
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:05,159
the death cult right and his whole you know, ocean

1051
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:08,360
of retard. It's not actually mentally disabled people, just people

1052
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,239
who choose to be retarded, you know what I mean.

1053
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,199
It's an American thing. We have fascism now, but you

1054
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:16,920
could say the word retard. Actually, it's not fascism yet.

1055
01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:21,960
It's being instituted. It's it's corporate. It's corporate toocracy, it's

1056
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:27,840
the oligarchy is proceeding as planned. Okay, anyway, So Bactress

1057
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:33,760
gas Apiece aka the Chanta called the Chanta palm and

1058
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:37,360
the fruits out a bowl peach palm, the fruit tastes

1059
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,599
like a squash. It looks like squashed too. It looks

1060
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,280
like kabocha squash. Really delicious. And then you get that

1061
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,840
big seed. I wonder if you could grow and probably not.

1062
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,119
These are very humid, human loving plants. Maybe in Florida

1063
01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:52,880
you could grow these, right, the same thing with thea broma,

1064
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,400
theobroma cacao, the chocolate tree, which needs fungus NaSTA polini.

1065
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,760
When you see the flowers on a chocolate tree, they

1066
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,239
are they are dime sized, maybe a little bit smaller.

1067
01:02:03,679 --> 01:02:06,639
And to take into account that that overary inside that

1068
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:09,840
flower will eventually grow over a span of five to

1069
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,039
seven months to the size of almost a football. Uh,

1070
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,760
is pretty wild to think about. It's such a massive

1071
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:24,400
transfer of energy and and and just material to this

1072
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:28,800
thing to grow that fast. It's nuts. Got the pulp

1073
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,639
of those things taste so lovely, the white pulp. And

1074
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:35,119
then of course the seeds you can eat too, but

1075
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:37,679
they're you know, they're like purple. Look at this violet color.

1076
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:40,039
You chew up one of those seeds, you spit it out.

1077
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:45,880
They're a little bit bigger than an almond. Chew up

1078
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,679
one of the cacao seeds and spit it out. It's

1079
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:52,079
got like a violet tinge to it. But that pulp

1080
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:54,079
is something else. Man, I'll tell you. You kind of

1081
01:02:54,119 --> 01:02:55,960
let it marinate in your mouth too. You don't just

1082
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,159
eat it and swallow, you know, American style, like a hag.

1083
01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:02,519
You let it marinate for a while. It's got a

1084
01:03:02,639 --> 01:03:05,599
like a taste like pink lemonade, maybe mixed with mango.

1085
01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:09,280
So anyway, but but I digress. So the peach palm

1086
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:16,599
bactriiss gasipies, which again very important at the botanically. You

1087
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,679
see them on the selling these things on the sides

1088
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:20,519
of the roads. These you know, they just cut the

1089
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:25,159
whole peduncle off and uh and they've you know, they'll

1090
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:27,719
cut the whole peduncle off. It's like two feet long,

1091
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,440
the whole thing that they're holding, the peduncle and then

1092
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,800
the panicle of fruits, and they just sell them roadside,

1093
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,559
these little you know, the actual peach palm fruit itself

1094
01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:40,400
is probably the size of a baseball, maybe a little

1095
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,880
bit smaller. Uh. Gionoma was a cool uh genus that

1096
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,400
I encountered. It's got the biffed leaves, looks like a fishtail,

1097
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:52,119
a big broad fish tail. Like a whale tail. The

1098
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:55,079
whale tail palm didn't see any flowering. I only saw

1099
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,800
one or two specimens, and I think there was at

1100
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,280
one of the lower elevation sites that we visit. Did

1101
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,719
tons of fungal diversity here too, Silasi be hoogshigany i,

1102
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:10,079
sharpest nipple, silasso bey silasopes up at the Korum silasipe

1103
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:13,880
young gensis. There were a number of psychoactive mushroom species

1104
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:18,400
in this habitattoo dense forest, shady rich duff on the ground,

1105
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,559
et cetera. But the copa palm, of course, was the

1106
01:04:23,639 --> 01:04:27,199
dick palm, the ones with the roots that spread out

1107
01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:31,440
the copa palm Iriardia del todia, as well as the

1108
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,559
walking palm, which doesn't actually walk. It just spreads roots out.

1109
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:40,320
It doesn't actually move, but those roots you can give

1110
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:47,440
the the the the illusion of walking because the old

1111
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:49,480
roots can rot off and it can form new ones,

1112
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,159
et cetera. So maybe you might get one that that

1113
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:55,679
changes its location by four or five feet, but it's

1114
01:04:55,719 --> 01:04:58,760
not really it's not really walking, you know, as it grows,

1115
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,800
it might lean over a I don't know. I'm just

1116
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,679
trying to imagine where this stupid name came from whatever.

1117
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,559
So Critilla xo riza s O c r A t

1118
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,519
e A xo riza. It's got those stilt roots too

1119
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:13,519
that come out that kind of look like a screw

1120
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:17,679
pine like pan, you know, order pandanace, the genus Pandema,

1121
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:23,039
which is Old World tropics. But uh in the the

1122
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,559
roots kind of look like Iriardia deltoida, the copa palm.

1123
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:32,960
But excuse me, but they're covered in these spiny protrusions

1124
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,840
which are very and they don't have that like that

1125
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:41,679
the dick shape, the notorious penile phelic shape to them

1126
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,360
as much, you know, which is mainly the root cap

1127
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,159
and Eriardia deltoidia, which does look like a massive hog.

1128
01:05:47,199 --> 01:05:50,280
It looks like a dong. That head of the dong

1129
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:52,559
is just the root cap and it's you touch it,

1130
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:55,199
it's kind of mucilaginous. It's a great illustration though, for

1131
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,840
what roots are doing, which is, you know, they they

1132
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,159
root caps on roots exude mucilage to decrease the friction

1133
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,800
as they move through the soil, and that's this is

1134
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,360
a great illustration of that. But I really want to

1135
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,079
talk about at some point, and I maybe will do

1136
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:16,719
this in another podcast. The difference in secondary the difference

1137
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,360
in growth. You know, you have secondary growth with the

1138
01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:23,000
dicots or uticosts, we'll just call them dicots, but you

1139
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:25,639
just know that there's it's technically not as cutting dry

1140
01:06:25,639 --> 01:06:27,800
as that. You got the basal angiosperm. Look at the end,

1141
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,599
look at the angrow sperm. By logic poster you got

1142
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:33,000
the more basal angiosperms, and you get the monocots, and

1143
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:36,800
you got the u diecots. But regardless, you got that

1144
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,559
secondary growth, which conifers also have too, they evolved it

1145
01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:43,719
on their own. You have that secondary growth that lateral

1146
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,400
maris them or secondary you have secondary growth, lateral maris them,

1147
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:49,840
vascular cambium. These are all talking about the same thing,

1148
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,920
except you have vascular cambium and cork cambium too. But

1149
01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:58,280
these are two extra layers of actively dividing cells that

1150
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,960
you get in dicots, whereas monoch cuts again only grow

1151
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,760
up and down, except for like the genus Dressina, some Yuckas,

1152
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,159
et cetera, which have anomaloists secondary growth. And what would

1153
01:07:08,159 --> 01:07:11,679
that anomalist secondary growth look like, because remember there's no

1154
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,639
tree rings in the monocots, there's no there's no vascular cambium.

1155
01:07:16,719 --> 01:07:19,719
It's it's you know, whereas like in a diecot, the

1156
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,519
heartwood is dead, and like in an oak, the hartwood

1157
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,920
is dead. The trees only alive on the outer few inches,

1158
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:31,639
the heartwood is dead. It's it's structurally sound. It's just

1159
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:36,039
providing structural support. That's why you know things like redwoods,

1160
01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:39,159
which also have vascular cambium, and oak trees can be

1161
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:41,599
hollow on the inside because all that tissue is dead anyways,

1162
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:44,159
hollow on the inside and still alive. You're just like

1163
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,119
so many people. I love making that fucking analogy, just

1164
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:50,440
like so many of us living in this consumer hillscape

1165
01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:57,079
dystopia being farmed as consumers. So but but you know,

1166
01:07:57,239 --> 01:07:59,239
a in a palm, you don't get that, do you

1167
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,639
get the vascuar other bundles polka dotted throughout the stem

1168
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,920
and cross section. If you cut a palm tree down,

1169
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,760
you're just gonna see a bunch of fibers. That's why

1170
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,719
petrified palm wood is so easy to distinguish from uh,

1171
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,119
you know, petrified wood of like a cypress tree or

1172
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:23,359
a redwood, or a oak or magnolia, et cetera. So anyway, okay,

1173
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:29,000
so uh, copa palm and socrate copa palm irie Rtia

1174
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:33,239
deltoida i r a no i r i a r

1175
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,399
t e a deltoidia, the dick palm, the copa palm,

1176
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,079
and the walking palm Socritia x riza, which again formed

1177
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:45,399
these these flanged bases that look like an hourglass. The

1178
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,279
point is just structural stability. Neither one actually walks, uh,

1179
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,159
but it's just a way to create a broader base

1180
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:56,720
and make up for the fact that they can't grow. Latterly,

1181
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,720
that palms are minocots. They just grow up and down.

1182
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,560
They don't actually get broad or as they grow. And

1183
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,319
so since some of these can get upwards to sixty

1184
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:05,840
feet tall, they're gonna they're gonna create that flanged base

1185
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:12,960
using just roots, roots that sprout from buds that root

1186
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,800
buds that are three or four feet above the ground

1187
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,439
in some cases. And it forms this nice little pyramidal

1188
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:23,359
cage that acts like a flanged base in hourglass shaped

1189
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:27,239
to that base, giving it structural stability. And uh again

1190
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:30,239
eerie already a del toity. The copa palm's got the dickhead.

1191
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:32,920
It's I don't know how else to put it, I

1192
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,840
mean to mince words. What come on, I help you approude. Okay,

1193
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:41,039
there was andy in royal palm Dictyocarium lamarque anum. Where

1194
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:46,079
did I see that? That thing's beautiful? Uh Mauritia flexuosa,

1195
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:51,760
maurice palm, Moridia m A u r I t i

1196
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:56,560
A flexuosa. All these things are beautiful again. And when

1197
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,439
you see something in the context that evolved in instead

1198
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,520
of as this bastard child of human horticulture, of someone's

1199
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,880
bad landscaping choices, you really appreciate it more. And then

1200
01:10:07,279 --> 01:10:13,439
one of the definitely deserves mentioned Onacarpus batua oe n

1201
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:19,239
O c r p Us Onacarpus batua, which I think

1202
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:25,680
has the longest leaves of any angiosperm. Let me check

1203
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,720
that really quick. Let's look that up really quick. Okay,

1204
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,159
I'm giving you bad information. I'm glad I checked this.

1205
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,319
H Raffia regalis is a species of flowering plant in

1206
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:38,880
the palm family eric case. It is founded in Gola, Cameroon,

1207
01:10:39,319 --> 01:10:43,600
so Equatorial Africa, Republic of the Congo, Gabona, and Nigeria.

1208
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,560
It's natural habitat is subtropical or tropical moist lowland forests. Yes,

1209
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,520
of course it is threatened by habitat loss. Not surprising,

1210
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,359
is you know there's a human tumor grows and takes

1211
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,239
more for itself and leaves little for the rest of

1212
01:10:56,239 --> 01:11:02,840
the biosphere. Raffia regalis has extraordinarily large leaves. Botanisty collegist

1213
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:08,560
Francis Hally Hally encountered a specimen in the Republic of

1214
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,640
Congo bearing a frond twenty five point nine to one

1215
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:17,000
meters eighty five feet in total length, of which sixteen

1216
01:11:17,159 --> 01:11:21,720
point forty seven meters is the blade or lamina, while

1217
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,680
nine point four to four meters is the stalk or petiole,

1218
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,920
of which thirty two inches was below soil level. These

1219
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,520
near vertical frinds are arranged in the very rare one

1220
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:40,199
four PHILOTAXI well, thank you Wikipedia. Let's see photos of

1221
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:45,840
Rafia regalis. Oh yeah, this thing is those those where

1222
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,720
the petiole attaches to the stem, doesn't get too high

1223
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,079
above the ground. It's got kind of like a vase shape.

1224
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:56,720
Interesting growth habit Yeah, man, palms are cool. I take

1225
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,720
it back, I'm sorry. Well what is it? That is

1226
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,920
that the inflorescence? Holy shit? What is this thing? God?

1227
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,119
The inflorescence on this thing is wild. It looks like, well,

1228
01:12:07,119 --> 01:12:09,079
I guess this is an immature one, but it looks

1229
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:14,399
like it looks like some sort of worms. This is

1230
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,399
the I guess it just hasn't opened yet. But it's

1231
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,439
a very bizarre looking structure. And you got Raffia vinifera.

1232
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,359
How many species are in this? Uh? How many species

1233
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:26,399
are in the genus Raffia? God? You know this is

1234
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,479
this is exciting. I love feeling that excitement when you

1235
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,199
learn about a new genus or a new clay, a

1236
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:36,279
new evolutionary group of of some organism that you're just

1237
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,840
fascinated by, and then you just go down a wormhole

1238
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,479
of looking up, you know, all the different variations on

1239
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:46,319
a theme. Here's here's Raffia far aniffra from Madagascar with

1240
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,960
there's an inflorescence and it looks like it's got upside

1241
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:56,079
on pine cones, upside on conical spiraling bracts, spiraling bracts

1242
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:59,600
forming a little looks like a conifer cone on the

1243
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,720
inflo And so those are fruits. I take it. Now.

1244
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,479
You gotta wonder what the ecology of this thing is,

1245
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,840
what pollinates it, what disperses the fruits? God? I'd love

1246
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,520
to go to Madagascar too. How many species on A

1247
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:17,000
naturalists have been observed eight Raffia australis. Where is this

1248
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:22,760
it Raffia vinifra raphi, which is also a genus of

1249
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,239
moth as it seems, so, don't get confused, don't get

1250
01:13:25,279 --> 01:13:29,920
thrown off. How many species in this genus are quite

1251
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,800
a few, only eight of which have been documented on

1252
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:38,520
I Naturalists, Like, there's twenty species Raffia sedanica. God, there's

1253
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,039
so many wonderful end list forms, most beautiful that I

1254
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:46,840
wish people could research, but they unfortunately they can't in

1255
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,840
some places because the human situation there is too fucked,

1256
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,880
you know, and you gotta be bribing people. The whole

1257
01:13:52,920 --> 01:14:00,560
system's corrupt. Whatever. Oh, the human situation on Earth, Jesus,

1258
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,640
you know, I guess it's better than dealing with like

1259
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,520
predatory stick megafauna. Well, that's kind of the same thing.

1260
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,520
Humans can act like that. But you know, I was

1261
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,439
just thinking, if you could go back in time, right,

1262
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,479
you could go back, you know, one hundred thousand years

1263
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,479
to some of these locations throughout the world and study

1264
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,560
the plant life there. About having to worry about getting

1265
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,960
abducted or having to pay a cop or getting shaken

1266
01:14:27,039 --> 01:14:31,840
down by the cops or you know, uh, it's just Jesus.

1267
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,640
I don't know. It's sad too. I mean, I think

1268
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,359
about places in the world to go and just the

1269
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:41,159
fucking poverty level there and the despair. It's it's awful

1270
01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:44,760
shit to think about. You know. I got to bring

1271
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,960
people up. I got to bring people up out of

1272
01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:52,680
that shit. Okay, So anyway, Uh yeah, so Raffia. But

1273
01:14:54,039 --> 01:14:57,920
but so owner Carpus is not Owner Carpus Betua is

1274
01:14:58,039 --> 01:15:00,239
not the largest what the fucking big leaf? I mean,

1275
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:05,000
they're probably maybe maybe the largest neotropical palm leaf. They're

1276
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:10,760
upwards of probably fifty feet. It looks like I'd love

1277
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,000
to get somebody on here to study maybe somebody who

1278
01:15:13,039 --> 01:15:17,159
studies palms, maybe maybe contacts Scott's owner or something. Have

1279
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:20,359
somebody on here to talk about palms, because I'll be honest,

1280
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,479
I was not interested in them before. And then, of

1281
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,119
course down in Brazil and the you've got the dwarf

1282
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:28,479
palms that grow in the campus for pestorates, haveitat with

1283
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,960
all the interesting cactirom bromeliads in the genus Syagris s.

1284
01:15:33,239 --> 01:15:36,920
Y a g r u s siagris do rdi d

1285
01:15:37,119 --> 01:15:44,000
u A r t Ei. Excuse me, did I see

1286
01:15:44,039 --> 01:15:47,600
any other palms Dictiocarium lamarchian. I mean we talked about

1287
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,600
that already, uh with Tinia. That was another one that

1288
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,560
I saw there. I mean, it's so easy to say

1289
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,680
they're just large grasses, which they kind of are, but

1290
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,760
they're also a lot more complex than that. They're and

1291
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,840
they're not actually grasses. They're not even in the order Poelis.

1292
01:16:02,399 --> 01:16:04,720
They're in their own order the poems. They're in the

1293
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:10,039
order Arakles again, not not like the genus Erica e

1294
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:14,239
R I c A, but Aureka a R E c a,

1295
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:22,119
which is a genus of palm arek ac. But the

1296
01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:24,479
what is the other family? Is it dazipogan Ac? I

1297
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:29,039
think it's the other family that's in uh order eric Calees.

1298
01:16:29,039 --> 01:16:31,760
I think it's just the palm family and the Dazi pogons,

1299
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,520
which I believe are all Australian. Oh no, maybe not.

1300
01:16:36,119 --> 01:16:43,439
Genus Bexteria Callectasia, Kingia king Ya australis monotypic genus extremely weird.

1301
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:50,399
The Australian grass trees, one of the two unrelated monocot

1302
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,720
genera referred to as grass trees Kingia only as one

1303
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,560
species king of Australis. And that's in again family daz

1304
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,560
apogan ac, after the genus das Apogon, which I encountered

1305
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,680
a lot in Western Australia. I guess that family has

1306
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,159
four genera in it. But then then the other grass

1307
01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:13,600
tree is Xanthoria, which is a very species rich throughout Australasia.

1308
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,960
Some really cool, but they look so much alike when

1309
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:23,079
they're not in flower Kingya and Xanthoria. What are the

1310
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:25,159
other what are the other genera? There's a pogon, they

1311
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:30,960
see Baxteria and Caliktasia. Where's Baxteria native? Ooh, this is

1312
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,159
a game been monocots? Huh monocots. You didn't think you'd

1313
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:35,840
get into them. You didn't think you didn't think they

1314
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,399
were that that fastening. Oh that's a Western Australian genus too.

1315
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:47,279
How many species? Oh? Just back, just one Baxteria australis

1316
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,479
and that's I got to see that. Now that's a

1317
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,880
weird one. I want to log all this stuff, so

1318
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,720
I just have my own reference, my own my own

1319
01:17:54,920 --> 01:18:00,399
photo reference library of all these uh, all the Earth's

1320
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:03,680
plant diversity Oh wow, Jesus Christ, what is this? Calctasia

1321
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,119
one of the other one of the four gen era

1322
01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:13,760
in dasipogan ac have h you have Baxteria, Calctasia, Dazi Pogon,

1323
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,039
and king Ya some really cool Dasipogons too. But Caliktasia

1324
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:21,119
C A L E C T A S I A

1325
01:18:22,279 --> 01:18:25,479
is a fucking this thing? Is? This has showy flowers? Man?

1326
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:32,760
Jesus Christ six teopled purple people's flowers with red anthers. Jesus,

1327
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,560
what is this? Oh my god? Have I never heard

1328
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,479
of this before? I want to see this? Where is this?

1329
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,920
This is a western Australia throughout the Australian continent or what?

1330
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,000
Oh you got some in Victoria too, so western and

1331
01:18:44,079 --> 01:18:49,119
southern Australia. Calctasia. That is a beautiful genus. Holy shit,

1332
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:52,600
probably really cool too. I wonder what it's pollination biology is.

1333
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,560
I wonder what it's ecology is. That's how have I

1334
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,560
never heard of this before? Let's check out the species diverse?

1335
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,279
How species rich is it? You got fifteen species Calctasia

1336
01:19:02,359 --> 01:19:06,640
Browniana syanea, the Marzii grassless granted Florida his Buta intermedia

1337
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:13,800
jubilea Kigiia. It sounds like a European name, Naragara, Abtusa, Pallustris, Pignadiana,

1338
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,920
and Valada Calctasia. Fucking I gotta go back to Australia.

1339
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,079
I love Australia over there. It might be my escape

1340
01:19:20,119 --> 01:19:22,039
eru when this country gets too miserable to live it

1341
01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:24,960
or just you know, when it's just so revolting to

1342
01:19:25,119 --> 01:19:27,880
look at what we've done of the landscape here. You

1343
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,479
know that'll happen after Trump sells off the national parks.

1344
01:19:31,039 --> 01:19:35,079
They're gonna put the see That's what it's gonna be,

1345
01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:39,239
just like this. It's gonna be dystopic. Don't get me wrong,

1346
01:19:39,359 --> 01:19:45,279
but it's gonna be like idiocracy dystopic. It's gonna be

1347
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:53,720
just you know, the the the billboards, this consumer cartoon hell.

1348
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,479
You know where you can feel people getting dumber around you.

1349
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,640
That is what you can feel, the populace getting dumber.

1350
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,199
That's what is this is that that's not Kingia australis

1351
01:20:06,279 --> 01:20:08,800
what is this thing? I'm looking at? Dazapoganace two what

1352
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,039
call the only other family in the Palm family. You

1353
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:16,720
got arik Ac and then dazipogan Ace, the only other

1354
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,439
family in the palm order. Excuse me? Oh wow, there's

1355
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,359
only three species of Dazipogon too, so this is not

1356
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:28,840
a super species rich family dazipogan Ace. Wow, that's wild.

1357
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:31,119
For some reason, I thought there were more, but I

1358
01:20:31,159 --> 01:20:35,000
guess it's just the only only a few species of Dosipogon,

1359
01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:41,680
one species of Kingia, probably twenty species of uh Calectasia,

1360
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:46,840
and one species of Bexteria. Anyway, Okay, I digress, But

1361
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:52,039
but yeah, Eric Cayley's ariks the palm order. And then

1362
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:54,600
how many fucking species of palms. There's probably a shif

1363
01:20:54,680 --> 01:21:01,079
ton twenty six hundred species of palms, jeez, all over

1364
01:21:01,119 --> 01:21:03,760
the world, and of course the most cold tolerant one

1365
01:21:05,039 --> 01:21:08,560
in New Zealand. No, I'm sorry, I was. I was

1366
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,600
thinking Ropelo Stylus sapada in New Zealand, though it is

1367
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,880
a beautiful palm, is certainly not the most cold tolerant one.

1368
01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:18,920
The most cold tolerant palm is here in the US's

1369
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,479
in Florida. I saw it in April of twenty three.

1370
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:29,119
It's Rapidophyllum historix, can reportedly survive temperatures as low as

1371
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:32,960
negative ten degrees fahrenheit, and it's abute. Here's a picture.

1372
01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:37,079
One covered in snow, thrives in moist environments, ideal for

1373
01:21:37,279 --> 01:21:39,600
USDA zone six to ten. You could grow to us

1374
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,800
in Cleveland. No, it's Cleveland zone sixth probably now a

1375
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,119
climate change. Yeah, throw a sheet over it. Throw some

1376
01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:49,079
plastic painters, tarp over it. During a really cold days,

1377
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,479
midjeweled date palm, drooled date palm. They they got one

1378
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,920
of those planted in a parking lot near where I live,

1379
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,119
a parking lot of some depressing shopping center. But it

1380
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:03,239
puts out actual decent fruits. You can go get them.

1381
01:22:03,279 --> 01:22:05,079
You go harvest, fill up a bucket like an old

1382
01:22:05,119 --> 01:22:07,560
Italian lady harvest and dandelions on a median strip is

1383
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,479
Cicero Avenue. Not that I would know anything about that.

1384
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,720
That's what they used to do though, reportedly, and they

1385
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,600
liked it. On the Median strip. The old Italian ladies

1386
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,279
would get the they'd harvest the dandelion greens on the

1387
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:21,840
median strip because supposedly that was where the dogs couldn't

1388
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,279
pee on them. But it was also where all the

1389
01:22:24,359 --> 01:22:27,479
tired dust leaded gasoline particulates. Because this is back in

1390
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:32,720
the day and uh break dust tired dust. You know,

1391
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:38,159
the plethora, the bounty of carcinogens produced by our car

1392
01:22:38,279 --> 01:22:41,000
centric infrastructure that's ready with all land on a median strip.

1393
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:47,079
So but at least you weren't eating dog piss. I'd

1394
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:49,319
rather eat greens with dog piss and greens with the

1395
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,319
diesel exititates. I mean, in an ideal world, I have neither.

1396
01:22:53,359 --> 01:22:56,159
But you know, since this is the modern day, you

1397
01:22:56,239 --> 01:22:57,920
got to take your pick. You want you want to drink,

1398
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,399
you want to eat dog piss, or you want to

1399
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:04,039
eat the car syn engens. Anyway, I want to talk

1400
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:06,960
about the family cyclant thesy, which I've taken an interest in,

1401
01:23:07,079 --> 01:23:10,920
the Panama hat family in the order Panda Nale's Now.

1402
01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:14,880
I I first saw one of these in Mobot, and

1403
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,840
I had forgotten about it. I forgot I saw it

1404
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,920
in Mobot. I had a nice little label on it.

1405
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,840
It had a flowering structure that looked absolutely insane. It

1406
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,840
looked like one of those uh uh, you know, knockdown

1407
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,319
characters that you hit with the balls in like a

1408
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,079
carnival carnival game. You know, like they got the little

1409
01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:37,960
like the thing that looks like what is that guy's name?

1410
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,319
Beaker the Muppet beaker. You don't know what the funk

1411
01:23:40,319 --> 01:23:42,520
I'm talking about. That's okay, need to do I apparently.

1412
01:23:43,079 --> 01:23:46,119
But it's got these these long thing, these things that

1413
01:23:46,199 --> 01:23:49,199
look like long white hairs, sometimes four to five inches long,

1414
01:23:49,279 --> 01:23:54,119
coming off of this rod. It looks like, uh, you know,

1415
01:23:54,319 --> 01:23:58,239
some some guy wearing like a white wig. H you know,

1416
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,279
like some like you know, Rocker wearing a white wig.

1417
01:24:01,319 --> 01:24:03,520
I don't know. It's a fucking bizarre looking thing. But

1418
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,600
then the leaves look like palm leaves. You would think

1419
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,800
that this is just a palm, but then you see

1420
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,680
it inflorescence and you realize this is not a palm.

1421
01:24:11,399 --> 01:24:14,720
This is a member of the Panama hat family cyclanth

1422
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,600
they see, which is neotropical. It only exists in the Americas.

1423
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:23,039
It's the only New World I saw this thing. What

1424
01:24:23,159 --> 01:24:24,680
did I say? I think I saw a species of

1425
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,600
a splendia, But I had no idea what was going

1426
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,960
on with the inflorescence. I had no idea what were

1427
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,800
the male flowers, what were the female flowers. It was

1428
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,159
one of the most bizarre plants I've seen as of late,

1429
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,319
and I was at elevation thirty one hundred feet. But again,

1430
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,359
if you're into Saint Louis Aria. You just go to

1431
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:47,199
Missouri Botanical Garden and a mobot greenhouses in there and

1432
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,720
check out what they got. They also have a thea broma.

1433
01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:52,199
They also have a chocolate tree, which is cool to

1434
01:24:52,199 --> 01:24:54,039
see if you could see it in flower. The flowers

1435
01:24:54,119 --> 01:24:56,479
on chocolate are nuts, and you can also look at

1436
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,880
the flowers and see, Okay, I see how that's in

1437
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:04,079
the cotton family mal As. It's got the pentamerous associated

1438
01:25:04,079 --> 01:25:07,920
you know, the pentamerous form. But I saw one of

1439
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:12,000
the genus uh. The genus was a splendia. These things

1440
01:25:12,039 --> 01:25:15,039
are like low growing palms. They don't get too tall.

1441
01:25:15,279 --> 01:25:18,680
Some are scandent and grow epiphetically. They can kind of

1442
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,600
vine up other other plants. I saw another a splendia

1443
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:28,079
doing that. They often have a very distinct leaf to them.

1444
01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:30,520
They've got this V shaped leaf. It kind of looks

1445
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:36,000
like that Geonoma palm. But then the rackies the stem

1446
01:25:36,079 --> 01:25:40,399
that holds the leaf. The petiole UH is in in

1447
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,039
cycling many members of Cyclone, the sy is round, it's

1448
01:25:44,119 --> 01:25:51,600
not flat. Cyclanthus is another genus Cyclanthus a Spleundia carludovica.

1449
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:56,960
That's the genus of of the Panama hat, uh, the

1450
01:25:57,039 --> 01:25:59,560
Panama hat because Panama hats were made from the leaves

1451
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:05,199
of these days and Dicranopigium. There's a number of other

1452
01:26:06,199 --> 01:26:08,319
I've I've downloaded some papers. There's a number of other

1453
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:12,079
genera in this family. But it is a fucking weird family.

1454
01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:15,399
And again it's in order Pandinales, which not many people

1455
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,319
will have heard of, especially in the United States, because

1456
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:23,399
Pandana or Pandanas, the namesake genus of his family is

1457
01:26:24,119 --> 01:26:26,560
Old World tropics, and you don't really get any members

1458
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,880
of his family in the US. Maybe one or two,

1459
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,560
maybe a couple planet as horticultural specimens, but it's very

1460
01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:36,920
otherwise unknown. What's cool about them, though, is they're almost

1461
01:26:37,079 --> 01:26:40,760
all pollinated by beetles. They kind of mimic aerids, both

1462
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,800
in their inflorescence shape or they've got a spath in

1463
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,039
a spaedix, and also that they're pollinated by beetles. The

1464
01:26:49,239 --> 01:26:52,239
long white hairs that looked like the white hair on

1465
01:26:52,359 --> 01:26:56,600
his seventies rocker Muppet that I was imagining when I

1466
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,159
was describing the inflorescence to you, those long white things

1467
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:03,479
are staminoes. They're sterile statements. They're generally interpreted to be staminodes,

1468
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:09,720
but they're also there. Their benefit is in being osmophores.

1469
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,359
They're kind of like these scent producing structures that help

1470
01:27:13,399 --> 01:27:17,520
attract the beetle pollinators. This is some really interesting shit

1471
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,960
to me because ecologically, first off, using beatles as pollinators

1472
01:27:22,399 --> 01:27:26,159
is kind of unusual. It's more of like a basal

1473
01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:33,000
angiosperm thing, right, or a psychad thing. It's it's unusual

1474
01:27:33,119 --> 01:27:38,199
to me because it's it's just a notable pollination syndrome.

1475
01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:40,680
I mean it's and the beatles don't just they're not

1476
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,840
like bees where they come and they dabble for a

1477
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,840
little bit, collecttion pollen and take off. These things are

1478
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,439
hanging out for a while, all right. They kind of

1479
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,439
like use a magnolia's do this too. The beatles kind

1480
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,960
of use the inflorescence as a sex hotel. Maybe they

1481
01:27:54,079 --> 01:27:56,840
hang out, you know, have a buffet, right like they're

1482
01:27:57,079 --> 01:27:59,439
like they're at the Louby's buffet or they're one of

1483
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,159
the buffets as you would go to, you know, steal

1484
01:28:01,239 --> 01:28:05,159
food from and uh some horrible casino in Las Vegas.

1485
01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:08,159
I fully, uh if you can still get away with that,

1486
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:13,079
please try. But it's a it's a notable pollination syndrome.

1487
01:28:13,119 --> 01:28:15,439
And of course you've got this bract, this this sheath,

1488
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:20,239
this spatheu protecting this whole structure, and then it's got

1489
01:28:20,319 --> 01:28:25,159
this like cone like structure. When it's done. The female flowers,

1490
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,760
I think there's there's let me, I gotta look up

1491
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,039
this flower diagram again. It's got this four sided structure

1492
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,279
and they're arranged in a spiral, which makes it look

1493
01:28:35,319 --> 01:28:39,760
like a cone. It's elongated on a rod. Their their

1494
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,439
female first, and the staminoids are out when this in

1495
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,880
the female phase, so they are protogynus protogenous, just like

1496
01:28:47,039 --> 01:28:51,920
aeroids as well, which is again expremely fucking unusual in

1497
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,880
the angiosperm world. Not extremely usual, but it's unusual, it's noteworthy.

1498
01:28:57,279 --> 01:29:00,000
And so they're they're female first. And when they're female,

1499
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:03,600
how those staminoids are out attack, attracting beetles. And then

1500
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:07,000
the staminoids start to fall off as this inflorescence is

1501
01:29:07,159 --> 01:29:10,560
entering the mail phase and the stamens are pretty reduced.

1502
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,079
They end up you can't really see the filaments, you

1503
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:15,600
just see the anther so they end up looking like

1504
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,159
these kind of wardy protrusions all over this rod. It's

1505
01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:23,960
a really unusual flowering structure, a really unusual pollination biology,

1506
01:29:24,079 --> 01:29:26,760
and a really unusual habit. And they all have this

1507
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:31,199
kind of fishtail leaf, these palm looking leaves that split

1508
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,920
into a fishtail or a whale tail, so it looks like,

1509
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,640
you know, you got two leaflets coming off of this petiole.

1510
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:44,000
So anyway, so cyclant These, it's the paper I'm using

1511
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,239
for one of these. There's two papers I was looking at.

1512
01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:49,840
It sent emissions in floral nutrients of Carludo viccoid E

1513
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,319
cyclant these and they are importance for associated beetles. That

1514
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,159
was a really good one. The cyclant These is a

1515
01:29:56,199 --> 01:30:00,199
monocof family of approximately two hundred and thirty perennial epiphyt its,

1516
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:05,279
vines and terrestrial herbs. They're tall herbs. They're five six

1517
01:30:05,359 --> 01:30:08,880
foot tall herbs in some cases, with all extant species

1518
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:13,119
restrict restricted to Central and Southern America. The leaves are

1519
01:30:13,159 --> 01:30:17,079
relatively large and palm like, and the flowers are small, unisexual,

1520
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:22,199
and aggregated into dense monoecies, so having both sexes on it.

1521
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:27,039
Spaduses Cyclanthacea are considered members of the order Pandinalias and

1522
01:30:27,079 --> 01:30:30,880
the closest relative to this family is most probably Pandinace.

1523
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,239
So anyway, in the in the family cyclanth these we

1524
01:30:35,359 --> 01:30:40,399
got two subfamilies, Cyclanthoid which just has one genus in it, Cyclanthus,

1525
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:47,560
and Carludovicoide, which has a number of genera. And what

1526
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:52,800
do we got here, Oh, fuck Jesus, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

1527
01:30:52,960 --> 01:31:01,880
eleven genera in it Asplundia, Carludovica short, shorty, giny, diante, Dichronopigium,

1528
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:10,199
evident if if Odianthus, Ludovia, et cetera, steele A, Tilis, Feradia, etcetera.

1529
01:31:10,279 --> 01:31:15,199
So anyways, uh, Carludovica, of course, uh, in A Splendia

1530
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:19,000
I think are by far the most species rich. But

1531
01:31:19,079 --> 01:31:22,840
they've all got this beetle pollination so far as I know,

1532
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,760
and they all have this same general habit of being herbs.

1533
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,880
They are not very tall trees. They don't have this

1534
01:31:29,039 --> 01:31:34,239
main stem that you know, it's colescent and above the ground. Yuh,

1535
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,560
et cetera. Some some do, I guess, the epiphytes, but okay, regardless,

1536
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:44,880
Carlutovica palmata again the the famous hat for the famous

1537
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,479
plant for Panama hats. It's started to make hats out

1538
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,000
of it fiber. There's the ethnic botanical importance here, but

1539
01:31:51,119 --> 01:31:54,199
we're interested in the pollination biology and the beetles that

1540
01:31:54,319 --> 01:31:58,359
use it as a sex hotel. And so it's we're

1541
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:03,399
talking about the inflorescence structure. You have two spades, these

1542
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:08,079
long bracts protecting this spadix, this kind of coolike spadix

1543
01:32:08,239 --> 01:32:12,520
consisting of unisexual flowers, both male and female, and then

1544
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,640
these long ass staminodes which give it this utterly bizarre look.

1545
01:32:16,039 --> 01:32:19,760
And we got we have a protogenous a thesis, so

1546
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:24,760
they're they're the the inflorescence is female. It's protogynus g

1547
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,199
y n o us protogenists just like a lot of

1548
01:32:28,279 --> 01:32:34,079
aeroids are so so unisexual flowers. But the spadix itself

1549
01:32:34,199 --> 01:32:39,159
is monoecious. It has both sexes on this inflorescence, and uh,

1550
01:32:39,319 --> 01:32:43,159
it's a female first, so it's the protogenists and thesis

1551
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,640
last two days, so it's female for two days. The

1552
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,920
female flowers open for two days, at which point the

1553
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:54,000
staminodes are out emitting scent. Okay, but what's what's interesting

1554
01:32:54,119 --> 01:32:58,239
is the night before the female flowers open, the spades

1555
01:32:58,359 --> 01:33:01,840
opened a little bit and the light orange and still

1556
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,760
folded staminodes become visible. These are the long hairys. These

1557
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:09,159
are the osmophores which are emitting scent and attracting the beatles.

1558
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,479
And in the first night of anth thesis, you know,

1559
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,119
between three and four am, the spade is fully open,

1560
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:21,479
the staminode stretch and the inflorescence enters the pistolate stage, right,

1561
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,439
so they're just female, all right, which was regarded as

1562
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,960
the phase when the stigmas were receptive, all right. And

1563
01:33:27,039 --> 01:33:31,640
this goes from about three am to seven am, all right.

1564
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,880
And during the following night around two thirty four am,

1565
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:41,079
the inflorescences of E. fIF e funiferer E. Funiffer which

1566
01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:47,680
is Evodianthus Evodianthus funifer Ludovia, Lancefolia, and A. Splendia heteranthra,

1567
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,960
where the species used in this study. And this took

1568
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,000
place in French Guiana, which is a little bit northeast

1569
01:33:56,079 --> 01:34:00,479
of where I just was in Ecuador, and reportedly already

1570
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,439
you know, from the beginning of the scent emission stage,

1571
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,680
which is when these staminodes are emitting scent, that the

1572
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,680
pit during the pistilate stage, the female stage of this flower.

1573
01:34:11,039 --> 01:34:13,840
A lot of Coculionid beetles were attracted. These are like

1574
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,880
little weavils, and so at the time the still closed

1575
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:24,479
staminate flowers cover the receptive pistilate flower. Four of the

1576
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:30,600
six attracted morphospecies Coirculioni Coculionid d were pollinators, and they

1577
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,920
had to enter deeply into the inflorescence to contact the

1578
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,760
pistilate flowers, which are hidden below the staminate flowers in

1579
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,840
a kind of pollination chamber. They cut the staminodes at

1580
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,920
the base and fed on drops of the resulting secreted liquid.

1581
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,760
They made it and oviposited in the ab axial surface

1582
01:34:48,359 --> 01:34:52,600
of the still closed staminate flowers. Jesus, so are they

1583
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,119
destroying the plant or what? These somebody's beetles leave? You know,

1584
01:34:56,159 --> 01:34:58,600
they overpositi leave the leg the eggs and the leaf litter.

1585
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,800
Others are just doing it a currently right on the

1586
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,520
flowers themselves. The non pollinating beetles only visited the service

1587
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,479
of the inflorescence without entering it. So you actually have

1588
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:12,319
to crawl through these stamens, these these anthers, which are

1589
01:35:12,359 --> 01:35:14,720
not open yet to get into the female flowers at

1590
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,800
the base this is already getting fucking weird. You gotta

1591
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,319
crawl into this thing, really, and the beetles are doing it.

1592
01:35:19,359 --> 01:35:21,399
They're hanging out again, not like bees where they just

1593
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,119
they just you know, show up, hangout for five six seconds,

1594
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:27,640
maybe ten, then fly off. These things are like they're

1595
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,279
going in, they're banging. They're having a sex hotel. And

1596
01:35:31,399 --> 01:35:36,600
then they're overpositing inside these flowers or in the leaf

1597
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:42,159
litter below. And more importantly, they're hanging out for almost

1598
01:35:42,199 --> 01:35:45,039
twenty four hours. Right in the following night, the anthers

1599
01:35:45,079 --> 01:35:48,680
of the stamine flowers open and touched each other so

1600
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,199
that only small holes offered space for the pollinators to

1601
01:35:52,279 --> 01:35:56,399
crawl out. So when they're crawling out, they're picking up pollen,

1602
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,640
right and you know they're they're they're they're hitting the

1603
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:04,159
contacting the male parts of this inflorescence after they've already

1604
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:08,039
been contacting the female parts why to avoid self pollination,

1605
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,560
at which point they crawl out and they get pollen

1606
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,000
all over themselves, and then they move to another inflorescence,

1607
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:19,600
bringing pollen with them and having to crawl in past

1608
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,399
those closed anthers into the attracted by the scent emitted

1609
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,239
by the staminods having to crawl in past those closed anthers,

1610
01:36:27,039 --> 01:36:29,840
you know, kind of like squeezing through to get to

1611
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,319
those female Yeah, see it says here. As they're crawling out,

1612
01:36:33,359 --> 01:36:36,760
the beetles now move from the post receptive pistolate flowers

1613
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,800
at the interior of the inflorescence to the surface and

1614
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:44,560
became completely dusted with pollen while passing the staminate flowers

1615
01:36:45,279 --> 01:36:50,840
and the other two species Ludovica lancefolia and Splendia heteranthra.

1616
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:55,039
The ecalyptiny beetles acted the same way. Unfortunately, the visiting

1617
01:36:55,079 --> 01:36:58,640
beetles have not been identified to genera or species. Jesus Christ,

1618
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,920
that's crazy, man. There's so much we don't know about

1619
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,560
the living machine while we're taking it apart. This is

1620
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:08,920
why you know, we need more people in the natural sciences.

1621
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,319
There's just so much to study figure out how this

1622
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:17,359
living machine works, especially considering how imperiled it is by

1623
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,439
this species of bipedal ape thermogenesis. There was only a

1624
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:27,720
slight elevation of the floral temperature in E. Funifer during

1625
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:32,560
the pistolate stage. The spadix what is this The spadix

1626
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,560
reach twenty four point one degrees celsius zero point four

1627
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,000
degrees celsius above ambient temperature, so not a whole lot

1628
01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:42,760
During the day, the inflorescence temperature was lower than the

1629
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,359
ambient Since the sense of the three studied species differed

1630
01:37:46,399 --> 01:37:49,079
considerably in their composition, with the exception of three trace

1631
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:56,680
compounds which occurred in Bodianthus funifer and Ludovia, excuse me

1632
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:02,439
I was saying Ludovica Ludovia lancefolia, all compounds were species specific.

1633
01:38:03,359 --> 01:38:06,119
The scent of evodi Anthus fuenefa are mainly consisted of

1634
01:38:06,159 --> 01:38:12,359
turpenoids in two unknown components, with the sisca terpene a, farnacene,

1635
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:17,239
diax epoxid being by far the most abundant component. The

1636
01:38:17,319 --> 01:38:24,000
two aromatic compounds of menzolacetate, cinemil astate, et cetera. So anyway,

1637
01:38:24,039 --> 01:38:26,760
the presence study confirms that avodi Anthus fen for funifer,

1638
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,279
Ludovia anceifolia a splendid heteranthra areponated by small sized ecalypteny

1639
01:38:31,399 --> 01:38:34,560
flower weavils. So these things, but still, these things are

1640
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:39,920
going in hopefully bringing pollen from a inflorescence of another

1641
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,640
plant they visited the night before, bringing this pollen in

1642
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,800
with them into these little sex chambers where the female

1643
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:51,439
flowers are. These tetramerous female flowers hanging out there for

1644
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:57,359
a day, copulating, potentially overpositing, getting pollen all over the

1645
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:02,159
female flowers, not off the staminodes, sucking a juice out,

1646
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:05,720
so they're eating too. They're banging and they're eating, and

1647
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:10,039
then they just when they crawl out twenty four hours later,

1648
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:14,159
the male flowers are opening, the stamins are opening, and

1649
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:16,640
they're getting dusted with pollen. This is really weird. This

1650
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,760
is cool and weird. So it's not really trapping them,

1651
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,520
but it's inducing them to hang out for a while.

1652
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:27,439
This is like a wonderful coevolutionary strategy here, right where

1653
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:33,640
both species benefit. Right the member of cyclant they see

1654
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,079
in the beetle pollinators, Oh, this is interesting. The staminodes

1655
01:39:37,159 --> 01:39:39,319
these long white things that look like the hairs you

1656
01:39:39,359 --> 01:39:43,479
know for the seventies muppet rocker wig. The staminoids are

1657
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,600
slightly flattened and have two ducks that are filled with

1658
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,119
a mucilage like liquid. Although not investigated in this study,

1659
01:39:49,159 --> 01:39:51,680
we speculate that this liquid has two functions. At the

1660
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:55,000
beginning of anthesis, the liquid is probably pumped into the

1661
01:39:55,039 --> 01:39:57,760
two ducts of each staminode and helps the curled staminodes

1662
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,319
to become stretched and rigid so that they can function

1663
01:40:00,399 --> 01:40:04,640
as osmophores emitting scent. The liquid exuded along the staminodes

1664
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:09,199
was found to contain sugars as male uglossene and meliponine.

1665
01:40:09,279 --> 01:40:13,159
Bees occasionally collected liquids on the staminodes. Oh, this is interesting,

1666
01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:16,680
so they're not this plant is benefiting other insects though

1667
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,199
they're not pollinating it, and just coming by to collect

1668
01:40:21,039 --> 01:40:23,920
some of the sugars and other liquids that are being

1669
01:40:24,119 --> 01:40:27,079
exuded by these staminodes. It is assumed that the liquid

1670
01:40:27,159 --> 01:40:31,600
also transports other compounds into the osmophores. Moreover, the liquid

1671
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,399
is consumed by the pollinating or maybe they're collecting scent

1672
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,439
I suppose. Moreover, the liquid is consumed by the pollinating

1673
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,359
and non pollinating beetles. Cross Sections of staminodes revealed that

1674
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:44,119
the u selage like liquid is accumulated between the parentkama

1675
01:40:44,199 --> 01:40:46,960
cells and in the epidermis cells. However, it is not

1676
01:40:47,079 --> 01:40:50,560
clear how it is secreted. The surface of the staminodes

1677
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,319
is roughly corrugated, which seems to be an enlargement of

1678
01:40:53,359 --> 01:40:57,439
the liquid secreting area characteristics which are often found in

1679
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:02,359
scent emitting surfaces. God, this is weird, though, this is so,

1680
01:41:03,079 --> 01:41:07,199
this is very complex. This is a very complex pollination system.

1681
01:41:08,079 --> 01:41:11,359
The staminate flowers are used as ovipositioned sites by the

1682
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:14,680
pollinating weavils, which is not at all harmful for the plant,

1683
01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:20,399
since staminate flowers are dispensable after an thesis. There you go, right,

1684
01:41:21,039 --> 01:41:24,079
they're just stunt cocks. Get rid of them. They're just dumb,

1685
01:41:24,399 --> 01:41:28,439
dumb males dime a dozen. So the stamens are falling

1686
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,359
off anyway, it doesn't matter that they've had eggs deposited

1687
01:41:31,399 --> 01:41:34,760
in them. Frans two thousand and seven discovered that eggs

1688
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,920
laid on pistolate flowers did not survive when the infratessence

1689
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,880
is matured, successfully resulting in reduced risk for the weavils

1690
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:47,520
to lay eggs and staminate flowers they drop soon after

1691
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,760
an thesis, and most cyclith species but still provide the

1692
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,920
eggs and larvae a medium in wish to continue their

1693
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,239
development in the leaf litter. So the stamens fall off

1694
01:41:56,399 --> 01:42:00,199
and then with the eggs in them, and then and

1695
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:04,800
uh and uh, and then the larva just continue their

1696
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,760
development and the leaf litter. It's that's nice. This is

1697
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,119
nice that this is working out for everybody. Everybody's we're

1698
01:42:09,159 --> 01:42:12,720
making it work. When the eggs are laid in staminate flowers,

1699
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:16,520
the larva developed within two weeks. There are also records

1700
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,880
showing some species of Acalyptiny to have ovipositive successfully and

1701
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:26,159
pistolate flowers of Carludovica palmata with larva and pupe developing

1702
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:29,359
and the pulp of the berries without significantly damaging the seeds.

1703
01:42:30,319 --> 01:42:32,640
It's nice. They're just eating the fleshy stuff around the seeds.

1704
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,800
They're not, you know, they're in a harmless seeds. The

1705
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,560
composition of nutrients in the flower organs is quite variable,

1706
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,399
and both species study the highest energy content was found

1707
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,920
in the staminodes and or staminate flowers. Perhaps the choice

1708
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,239
of the visiting beetles use staminodes and staminate flowers for

1709
01:42:47,359 --> 01:42:53,199
ovipositing is an additional adaptation to utilize the flower organs

1710
01:42:53,239 --> 01:42:58,560
with the highest energy content. Uh God, what a fucking

1711
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,479
you know. You don't got to read the whole paper

1712
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,800
of some of these things, but it's definitely worth perusing.

1713
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,319
Through it, you know, on a again on an app

1714
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,960
like read Era or something, and then highlight uh, you know,

1715
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:13,520
in quotes. You could you know that app allows you

1716
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:17,000
to quote quote something just by highlighting it and then

1717
01:43:17,039 --> 01:43:21,239
selecting quote. But I do all this stuff on my phone. Man,

1718
01:43:21,279 --> 01:43:25,640
it is there's some really it's really useful. Shit. You

1719
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,760
stand in line somewhere or you got you know, you're

1720
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,720
trying to kill time at your job in a bathroom

1721
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:34,520
on an extended shipbreak or something. Read read plant systematics,

1722
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,560
Read a paper you're downloading, Read a you know, a

1723
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:42,479
pirated PDF textbook or something. You know I'd be asking questions.

1724
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:49,399
Stimulate your mind anyway, I digress. The non pollinating staminode

1725
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,119
cutting and floorivorous beetles seem to take advantage of a

1726
01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:56,840
well functioning beetle pollination system. However, without disturbing the pollination.

1727
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,079
The ephemeral staminodes are only important at the very be

1728
01:44:00,199 --> 01:44:03,079
getting of anthesis and emitting scent to attract beetles and

1729
01:44:03,119 --> 01:44:06,640
provide nourishment for them. After attraction and upon arrival of

1730
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:09,439
the beatles, the staminodes lose their main importance for the plant.

1731
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:13,479
Thus the additional destruction of staminodes by predatory beetles seems harmless.

1732
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,840
God damn it. So that what I saw when I

1733
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:21,159
saw this a splendia species flowering those white the staminodes,

1734
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,960
I didn't appreciate that those were only gonna last for

1735
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,680
a day or two. I should have really taken a

1736
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,119
whiff and seen what they smelled like. I did. I

1737
01:44:29,239 --> 01:44:31,439
wonder if I recorded a video, but I didn't. I

1738
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,880
wasn't really aware of how fucking cool this lineage was.

1739
01:44:36,039 --> 01:44:38,760
God damn it. Now I'm interested, you know. Now I

1740
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:40,800
want to grow these things so I can study them.

1741
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,239
Is are there any university greenhouses out there in the

1742
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:50,239
United States studying any members of cyclant they see? God,

1743
01:44:51,079 --> 01:44:53,840
you know, university greenhouses. I feel like used to used

1744
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,359
to stock all all this weird shit from all over

1745
01:44:56,399 --> 01:45:00,359
the world, weird plants, and they don't do it anymore.

1746
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,560
There's no funding. There's no funding for that. What does

1747
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:07,119
it do? What's the benefit? Why do we want to do?

1748
01:45:07,279 --> 01:45:09,359
What's what's the point of that? With The point is

1749
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:15,079
knowledge in creating a more educated and aware and uh

1750
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,840
you know, enlightened, populous and just excited about life. A

1751
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,119
population of people that's excited about life and can see

1752
01:45:23,119 --> 01:45:25,960
it firsthand and study. It doesn't matter if it's already

1753
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,439
been done or whatever it's I mean, this is why

1754
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:32,199
institutions like misera botanical garden, which has one of these

1755
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,640
a member of his family, are so important to have around,

1756
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,520
and it makes me worried for the future because administrators

1757
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,720
and the business elite are always in their fucking depoperate mindset,

1758
01:45:45,119 --> 01:45:48,600
are always looking for ways to defund things like this

1759
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,199
because they seem they deem them useless, They deem that

1760
01:45:52,239 --> 01:45:56,000
there's no benefit. You're enriching, you're populous, so that you

1761
01:45:56,079 --> 01:45:59,680
don't end up with a population of dummies. Right in

1762
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,520
the fact fact that countries like China do fund these things.

1763
01:46:04,119 --> 01:46:05,840
For all the eels you could say about China, the

1764
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,760
fact they do fund things like this, right there doesn't

1765
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,880
need to be it doesn't need not everything has to

1766
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,800
make money or be a profiteering enterprise somehow. The fact

1767
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,600
that China does do things like this is why they're beating,

1768
01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:22,159
why they're beating the US, and why the US is

1769
01:46:22,239 --> 01:46:26,359
just getting dumber and dumber and dumber every fucking year.

1770
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,760
So you end up electing these cartoon reality TV showmen

1771
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:37,279
fucking frauds with this ketamine induced pet Imagine Trump holding

1772
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:41,600
Eline and a little fucking gimp outfit, right with the

1773
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,000
little caddiers and shit, some real six shit. I'm not

1774
01:46:44,079 --> 01:46:46,960
a I can't stand furries, right, Well, I guess this

1775
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,039
wouldn't be for you. They're not furries. Would be vinyl?

1776
01:46:49,079 --> 01:46:51,840
This would be like black black vinyl? Right? Or would

1777
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,640
it be the other way around? What it be? Elon

1778
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:57,760
holding Trump? I don't know. They're both fucking morons. They're

1779
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:02,960
both fucking retards. You could say retard. No right, I'm gonna.

1780
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,840
I'm gonna. I'm gonna really dive headlong into that. Got

1781
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:10,520
it just again, all enabled by how deranged the left got,

1782
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:14,319
the modern American left, the identitarian left. It's so sad.

1783
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,920
I don't understand. I just shit on people repeatedly and

1784
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:22,119
told them they were privileged and and and condescended to

1785
01:47:22,199 --> 01:47:25,000
them and morally spoke down to them and told them

1786
01:47:25,039 --> 01:47:28,359
how terrible of a person that they were. I can't

1787
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,159
understand why they went to the other side and became fascist.

1788
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,880
Jesus Christ, rich kids, you know, just isolated from reality

1789
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,279
and from the working class. Just no clue how this works.

1790
01:47:37,319 --> 01:47:38,920
Don't know how to be fucking nice on how to

1791
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,880
be humble, don't know how to reach out to people

1792
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:47,720
and have fun, loosen up, unpucker, laugh at things, et cetera.

1793
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,279
You know, just don't know how to fucking organize, don't

1794
01:47:50,279 --> 01:47:52,600
know how to you know, see again, this is a

1795
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,439
this was all I don't know. Maybe it was a

1796
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,560
sy op. Who knows. I'm sorry, we're going there again.

1797
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,119
Let's look at this other paper on cyclant theacy. Then

1798
01:48:00,119 --> 01:48:02,199
I'll let you go. I'm amazed if you even still listening.

1799
01:48:02,279 --> 01:48:04,399
Maybe you're you're you're in a wood shop or something.

1800
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,560
You got this on a podcast and you just don't

1801
01:48:07,279 --> 01:48:09,159
You're just too lazy to change it. I don't know,

1802
01:48:09,239 --> 01:48:10,880
I don't fucking know. What are you doing? Why are

1803
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,319
you still listening to this? The ads are normally pretty bad.

1804
01:48:13,359 --> 01:48:15,159
Hopefully you sign up for the patren Okay, let's go

1805
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:21,159
over here to Gottsburger. Is that his name, Gerhard Gottsberger,

1806
01:48:21,279 --> 01:48:29,640
Gunther Gunther, Gunther, Gottfried? What is his name? Oh, Gerhard Gottsberger. Sorry, girheart,

1807
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,880
I'm not making funny, okay. Amongst this is a pollination

1808
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,319
of some species of the Carludo vicoidi which is that

1809
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:40,199
other subfamily, and remarks on the origin and evolution of

1810
01:48:40,239 --> 01:48:46,199
the cyclant these. Among cyclant these, Carludo vicoidy from Amazonian

1811
01:48:46,279 --> 01:48:49,720
Peru to a splendid species of Vodianthus funifera we already

1812
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,039
touched on a Vodianthus, and Carludo Vika palmata were shown

1813
01:48:53,079 --> 01:48:59,439
to be canthro Fhilus. This is beetle pollinated. Can't theo filus? Right?

1814
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:06,920
Whereas and Tamophilus is insect pollinated? Anamophilus is wind wind pollinated? Uh?

1815
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:12,680
Caranthophilus is that? Is it caranthophilus or is it what's

1816
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:18,760
the what's the what's the bat pollination? Chiropterophilus for Chiroptera,

1817
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:23,960
there's scientific order of bats. Excuse me, I apologize. So anyway, Uh,

1818
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:29,800
Canthophilus just just pollination? Cross pollination by beetles thought to

1819
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:34,319
be one of the oldest forms of insect pollination. Psychads

1820
01:49:34,319 --> 01:49:38,359
were doing this early Cretaceous, probably in a Jurassic All right,

1821
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:43,000
So let's see what is this. It's in good photos

1822
01:49:43,039 --> 01:49:46,359
in here. Yeah. The pistolate flowers are tetramerius and tricyclic

1823
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:51,239
with one perianth whirl one whirl of staminodes and one

1824
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,000
of carpals. Oh wow, that's the Really you got to

1825
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,680
get in there and dissect these things to see it.

1826
01:49:59,319 --> 01:50:01,920
And again you he's got this nice picture of these

1827
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,760
staminodes popping out of these little holes in what is

1828
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:09,239
otherwise looks like a potato that is just comprived like

1829
01:50:09,279 --> 01:50:13,439
a wardy potato, and the wartz are just the unopened stamens,

1830
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:16,760
and then the female flowers are deep in there. Does

1831
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,319
he have any any dissections here to what the female

1832
01:50:19,359 --> 01:50:26,640
flowers look like? No? But oh there's a two. There's

1833
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:33,159
two post pistolate stages of the inflorescence. A splendid proviana.

1834
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:35,560
Ooh male, you glassy and be hit ennick clinging on

1835
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,640
the fragrance staminodes. Oh this is? This is on a

1836
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:44,239
up there, Yes, C and D inflorescence without staminodes. During

1837
01:50:44,279 --> 01:50:47,840
the second morning, shortly before the beetles fly away, this

1838
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:49,880
is the staminods have already fallen off and it's going

1839
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,399
into the male phase. The beetles are eating pollen and mating.

1840
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:56,359
What a life. D and inflorescence the second day, after

1841
01:50:56,399 --> 01:50:58,800
the beatles have left, the male flowers are withering and shrinking,

1842
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:03,720
and the four stigmatic press of the female flowers become visible.

1843
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,000
Oh yeah, so after the stamens fall off, that's when

1844
01:51:06,039 --> 01:51:12,239
they get this really cool, beautiful spiral cone shape to them,

1845
01:51:13,119 --> 01:51:17,039
with these like these little squares or diamonds spiraling around

1846
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:23,000
this rod. Let's see what else though? Is this? What? What?

1847
01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:25,880
What is this? What? If the cyclant they see are

1848
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,720
indeed pollinated by beetles only, as all the observations up

1849
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,760
to now available indicate this is an earlier paper, they

1850
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,840
are pollinated by beetles only, it would be the only

1851
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:41,399
exclusively Canthrophilus family among monocatleitans. Because I think some aeroid

1852
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:46,640
I mean, obviously aeroids are not entirely beetle pollinated, but

1853
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:51,800
I believe all of I believe all the cyclants are.

1854
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,840
I'm curious to know. I'm curious to know. The fruits

1855
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:59,520
are certain some of the fruits are certainly dispersed by birds.

1856
01:52:00,359 --> 01:52:03,960
The whole infuit tessens on you know, Carludo Vika Palmond

1857
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:07,359
of the Panama hat plant. Once it's done, I mean,

1858
01:52:07,399 --> 01:52:14,520
you can see the yellow scales, these tetramerius foresighted yellow scales,

1859
01:52:15,359 --> 01:52:18,239
which were the female flowers. But then and then that's

1860
01:52:18,279 --> 01:52:21,000
on the outside and then as the whole infro testins

1861
01:52:21,079 --> 01:52:23,159
kind of unfurls from the top down. It's got this

1862
01:52:23,319 --> 01:52:27,880
bright red color to it, certainly attracting birds. Oh yeah,

1863
01:52:28,039 --> 01:52:30,640
absolutely looks like it. Two tons of tiny seeds. It's

1864
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:36,840
basically these these orange berries, these four lobed orange berries

1865
01:52:37,039 --> 01:52:40,319
containing many seeds which are bird dispersed. God, what a

1866
01:52:40,399 --> 01:52:43,600
fucking cool family. I want to grow one of these now,

1867
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:47,159
you know, just in a pot out here in South Texas.

1868
01:52:47,199 --> 01:52:49,640
I don't know if it could handle the aridity, and

1869
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,880
need to. I got misters, you know, start my own

1870
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,600
little botany lab greenhouse. Who's great. Seriously, if you go

1871
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:58,760
to a if you got like a good university greenhouse,

1872
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,840
which you probably don't because it's the US, and uh,

1873
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,600
these aren't just these just aren't a thing anymore. The

1874
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,840
funds are being cut everywhere. They're cutting or barrier and

1875
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:11,039
university greenhouses. But if you are and you have some

1876
01:53:11,159 --> 01:53:14,840
of these specimens, reach out to me, right if you

1877
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,159
maybe I'll come visit, maybe I'll come lurk, or maybe

1878
01:53:20,159 --> 01:53:23,880
you could just preserve an old flower or something, dry

1879
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,000
it out and send me some of old inflorescence. I

1880
01:53:26,039 --> 01:53:30,000
would love to get some decent dried or barium specimens

1881
01:53:30,039 --> 01:53:31,760
of some of the members of cyclanth they say, what

1882
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:35,319
a fucking cool family. Jesus Christ, and I had no idea,

1883
01:53:35,359 --> 01:53:37,880
what so species rich. It's amazing you can be into

1884
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,880
something for so long and still learn so many new things.

1885
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,640
I mean, it's not amazing. That's that's the way the

1886
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,199
world works. I guess with a lot of things. But

1887
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:47,439
I had no idea this family even existed until you know,

1888
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,439
a year or two ago, and then also knowing it's

1889
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,399
in Pandinales and related. The weird ass families like the

1890
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,279
velozi ace. God, you want to talk if you're into

1891
01:53:56,399 --> 01:54:01,239
like xeric plants, dry land plants, velosi Ace is fucking

1892
01:54:01,279 --> 01:54:04,520
wild one of the few families of plants that contain

1893
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,840
members that can completely dry out just like ferns and

1894
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:12,039
some mosses, or just like some ferns and mosses and

1895
01:54:12,159 --> 01:54:15,079
come back to life a resurrection plant, right, just like

1896
01:54:15,199 --> 01:54:18,880
miro Faminis, which is in the gunner Alis another weirdo

1897
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:24,199
from the mibia. But not many, not many angiosperms can

1898
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,359
can do that, but the Velosia see a lot of

1899
01:54:27,399 --> 01:54:29,720
members of Alosias can I sell a lot of alosias

1900
01:54:30,399 --> 01:54:34,159
in Brazil and there was some. Really, what is the

1901
01:54:34,319 --> 01:54:36,560
what there's a genus in Africa that can do the

1902
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:42,119
same thing. My friend Kiamara was obsessed with for a while.

1903
01:54:42,359 --> 01:54:49,520
Another another quote, resurrection plant Zerophyta, which is in eastern

1904
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:53,720
southern Africa and Madagascar. It goes on, it goes on

1905
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:55,399
up at the Kenya too. I guess you gets some

1906
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:59,880
in Namibia got a very species rich genus zero Phyt

1907
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:04,159
with the Z again, we're talking about the genus Zerophyta,

1908
01:55:04,279 --> 01:55:09,680
family velosiace, the family of resurrection plants with incredibly beautiful

1909
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:15,239
flowers too. From the New World Tropics Old World Tropics

1910
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:20,560
order Pandinales, the screw pine order. How many other families

1911
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:24,520
are in Pandinales? What is it? Five cyclant a c

1912
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:30,039
Pandinace steam on ac. Never heard of it, stemo ace triuridece.

1913
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:35,600
Oh my god, there's some fucking micoheterotrophs in that family Triuris.

1914
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:40,319
Jesus Christ, Oh, this order is so fucking cool man.

1915
01:55:40,359 --> 01:55:42,600
I had no idea. And then velosi a C so

1916
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:46,359
cyclant a c Pandinace steam on a C, TRIURIDEC and

1917
01:55:46,439 --> 01:55:52,800
Veolosi AC pandinace. I saw pandanus in in Uh the

1918
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,880
screw pines. I don't know why they call them pines.

1919
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,960
They don't look anything like a pine let alone a conifer. Well,

1920
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,399
I guess the cone, the infratestens of kind of like

1921
01:56:00,439 --> 01:56:03,399
a cone looks like a pineapple. So those in New Caledonia.

1922
01:56:04,359 --> 01:56:07,680
So those again, there's like an old world tropic family pen.

1923
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:11,039
You know, there's probably I think does Garfield Park Conservatory

1924
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:14,399
have any pandanus members? Probably? So you can travel the

1925
01:56:14,439 --> 01:56:18,680
world learning about botany without ever leaving the shitty US.

1926
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,680
I'm sorry, I trying to dog on here too much.

1927
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:26,039
You know, it's shitty everywhere you go. How do you

1928
01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:28,520
keep a positive out look? Hey, you know it's shitty

1929
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:32,159
everywhere you go. I'm sorry, but it really is. You know,

1930
01:56:32,239 --> 01:56:34,079
you say, it's what we do is humans. We're not

1931
01:56:34,199 --> 01:56:36,119
enlightened yet. We'll beat her one day, hopefully, if we

1932
01:56:36,119 --> 01:56:39,840
don't go extinct. But but you know, it's a different

1933
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,079
flavor of poison everywhere. California, Texas. They both suck in

1934
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:45,720
our own way. Okay, but my point is you can

1935
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:49,119
travel the world. This is the point of conservatories. If

1936
01:56:49,159 --> 01:56:51,000
you have one around you. I suggest you go find

1937
01:56:51,079 --> 01:56:53,880
it out right, and if they got shipped like Nandina

1938
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:57,600
domestica planted in the glasshouses, I would you should, really,

1939
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:00,159
you know, beg them to get rid of that home

1940
01:57:00,239 --> 01:57:03,520
depot garbage and put in some members of pandanal some

1941
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:08,119
of the more weird and rare plants from around the world. Right, Well, network,

1942
01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:09,840
we'll get your seeds, you give it to them, you

1943
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,000
grow it yourself, whatever the fucking then donate it to

1944
01:57:12,079 --> 01:57:15,960
the greenhouse. I was in a greenhouse in Columbus, Ohio,

1945
01:57:16,199 --> 01:57:17,840
when Al and I were on tour last year, and

1946
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,319
it was God, it was so depressing. It was like

1947
01:57:20,439 --> 01:57:23,279
that you could be showing people such interesting things and

1948
01:57:23,359 --> 01:57:27,159
they had like it was like it was like some

1949
01:57:27,359 --> 01:57:31,239
Hallmark wife got in there and designed the greenhouses, and

1950
01:57:31,319 --> 01:57:34,199
it was just it was home depot garbage. It looked

1951
01:57:34,279 --> 01:57:38,960
like the inside of a floral boutique from the seventies,

1952
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:43,640
like the oh God, it's just you know, you got

1953
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,439
this opportunity to show people the diversity of Earth's plant life,

1954
01:57:46,479 --> 01:57:49,479
the diversity of the living world, and you're planting horticultural

1955
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:55,199
atrocities like Nandina domestica and English ivy and a glasshouse.

1956
01:57:55,279 --> 01:57:58,760
It's that's that's shit for old ladies, no offense for

1957
01:57:59,079 --> 01:58:00,439
you know what I mean. You know what I mean.

1958
01:58:00,479 --> 01:58:02,479
There's some dope old ladies out there. There's some you know,

1959
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,840
old ladies that will stab you in a head with

1960
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:07,239
something rusty. There's old ladies out there who are still

1961
01:58:07,279 --> 01:58:09,840
taking acid, you know what I mean. I'm talking about

1962
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:19,000
the genteels right right, the stiffs, the citizens, right, That's

1963
01:58:19,039 --> 01:58:20,600
what I'm talking about. The people that would see a

1964
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:23,279
place like that with that kind of plant selection and

1965
01:58:23,359 --> 01:58:25,680
be like, this is lovely, this is beautiful. Whereas I'm

1966
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:27,479
going in there and I'm like, oh my god, this

1967
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:29,359
I just want to puke. I feel this is making

1968
01:58:29,399 --> 01:58:32,119
people dumber. This is missed opportunity. I'm not hating on

1969
01:58:32,199 --> 01:58:35,640
anybody for it, but Jesus christ Man, come on, there's

1970
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,319
so much you can get people excited about the world.

1971
01:58:39,079 --> 01:58:43,600
This is like teaching a geology class, and instead of

1972
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,600
being excited and explaining concepts in the geologic timescale and

1973
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,720
how could be used philosophically to make you feel better

1974
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,960
about the terrible things you might see in the world,

1975
01:58:51,039 --> 01:58:53,960
or just get excited about having an understanding of things

1976
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,079
like plate tectonics and how they explain current distribute shoodents,

1977
01:58:57,399 --> 01:59:02,199
distributions of animals and plants. You're up there talking, you know,

1978
01:59:02,479 --> 01:59:07,279
like like a seventy year old, you know, suffering from

1979
01:59:07,279 --> 01:59:12,520
an autoimmune disorder, who's on coludes, you know, just boring

1980
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,239
people to death. It's just the missed opportunity. And that's

1981
01:59:15,279 --> 01:59:18,359
what that's my main beef with those kinds of gardens.

1982
01:59:18,359 --> 01:59:20,880
And also it just exudes more of the culture of

1983
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:22,600
the lawn. The same mindset that brought us the lawn

1984
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:25,039
is that like, plants are just supposed to be attractive.

1985
01:59:25,319 --> 01:59:29,800
There's no ecological context, there's no being tied to a place,

1986
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:35,720
there's no effects of natural selection sculpting the morphology or

1987
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:41,319
the phytochemistry or the pollination systems of a plant. They're

1988
01:59:41,319 --> 01:59:44,600
just supposed to be attractive and beautiful and green and hmmm,

1989
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:47,199
a nice backdrop for a wedding makes me want to die.

1990
01:59:47,239 --> 01:59:49,159
It makes me want to drink my own piss, and

1991
01:59:49,239 --> 01:59:52,760
then I'm gonna drink some draino. So anyway, I know,

1992
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:56,239
we get to talking about this. But anyway, pandinales the

1993
01:59:56,399 --> 02:00:00,680
screw pine order, They're fucking incredible. Look up and You

1994
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:04,399
can explore some of this diversity on I Naturalist if

1995
02:00:04,439 --> 02:00:07,640
you have an Apple phone. The I natural staff sucks.

1996
02:00:08,239 --> 02:00:11,000
Hopefully they improve it. I don't know if they're going to,

1997
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:13,760
but just go to the website instead. The website is

1998
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,760
where it's at, and be sure to explore the taxonomy.

1999
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:19,279
There's so much good shit you can explore on our Naturalist.

2000
02:00:19,319 --> 02:00:21,800
I'm tired of fucking repeating this. Nobody's listening to me.

2001
02:00:22,319 --> 02:00:24,039
All the dumb shit you look at on your phone.

2002
02:00:24,279 --> 02:00:26,359
You can explore Earth's diversity and look at some of

2003
02:00:26,399 --> 02:00:30,640
these weird fucking forms as well, like the order pandinals

2004
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,800
and the families. It's like a choose your inn adventure

2005
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:35,520
books like plant ac pandinac. I'm gonna read about steam

2006
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,640
and as the fucking steam and ac. Where does it occur?

2007
02:00:38,039 --> 02:00:40,079
Where's the distribution? Then you can click on the map

2008
02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:42,520
link look at where it's distributed. Oh, I see it's

2009
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,680
Southeast Asia. It's tropical Asia. How about that? Never heard

2010
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:47,479
of this family before? What the fuck is in it?

2011
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:51,239
It's got a link to the Wikipedia page taxonomy. I

2012
02:00:51,279 --> 02:00:53,960
could see there's four genera in the families Steam and Ace,

2013
02:00:55,279 --> 02:00:59,680
Stemona sticio neuron cromia. What they look like. They look bizarre.

2014
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:04,520
Another cool family of monocons. Right, but let's look at

2015
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,000
I want to go back to this. I'll let you

2016
02:01:06,119 --> 02:01:07,319
go here. You can get off the phone. You can

2017
02:01:07,399 --> 02:01:08,920
get off the phone with me in a minute, because

2018
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:10,239
this is like a phone call. It's like we're having

2019
02:01:10,239 --> 02:01:12,920
a phone call. And I'm I'm lecturing you, right, I'm

2020
02:01:13,159 --> 02:01:15,760
I'm like the Tony Santaura. I'm like the exasperated one

2021
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:19,199
foot in the grave fifty year old West Side Chicago

2022
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:24,640
geriatric Italian crooning about how nice the Austin neighborhood used

2023
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:25,720
to be. But you don't want to hear him go

2024
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:27,159
on at because it's probably going to turn into a

2025
02:01:27,279 --> 02:01:29,359
racist brand. Right, That's what a lot of these fucking

2026
02:01:29,399 --> 02:01:31,840
old wops do. They all I don't know how they

2027
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,640
did it, right, but they all turn like racist, old

2028
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:39,680
fucking right wingers. It's so depressing, it's so predictable. Don't

2029
02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:40,760
Why do you want to be a Why do you

2030
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,039
want to be someone's prediction of what you're gonna be?

2031
02:01:43,159 --> 02:01:45,119
You know, you see an old I see an old

2032
02:01:45,159 --> 02:01:47,199
Italian and I'm like, this is a guy who forgot

2033
02:01:47,279 --> 02:01:49,880
his roots. Who you know, wanted to be white so bad,

2034
02:01:50,239 --> 02:01:53,840
turned a little racist, started saying stupid shit, it's a

2035
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:58,279
very narrow perspective and the reality of the human world

2036
02:01:58,359 --> 02:02:02,800
around him and probably voted for Trump. How depressing. I'm

2037
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:04,479
still gonna be nice to him. I'm sure he's got

2038
02:02:04,479 --> 02:02:07,079
other elements of his personality that might be enjoyable, probably

2039
02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:10,119
a decent sense of humor. Just don't get him talking

2040
02:02:10,359 --> 02:02:14,039
about politics or ideology, because it's gonna be fucking predictable

2041
02:02:14,079 --> 02:02:16,000
and you're gonna realize he's a moron on that front,

2042
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:19,760
just on that front, and uh, it's gonna it might

2043
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:22,600
taint your appreciation for other aspects of because here's what

2044
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:24,399
we gotta do. You no lecture people and then you

2045
02:02:24,479 --> 02:02:26,720
just hope they change. You start slipping it in You

2046
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:28,800
befriend these people, and you start slipping it in there

2047
02:02:29,359 --> 02:02:32,199
this shit, you know, it's how you change people. You know,

2048
02:02:32,399 --> 02:02:34,600
lecture that my line, and it's like really fucked up.

2049
02:02:35,239 --> 02:02:37,199
What you're doing is actually really fucked up. Okay, So

2050
02:02:37,239 --> 02:02:39,399
I'm sorry. Here we go. Family trier a day. See

2051
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how many genera e genera is the whole family. Microheterotrophic

2052
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,560
is the whole family. Micro they look like it. I

2053
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:51,359
don't see any chlorophyll in any of the photographs I'm

2054
02:02:51,359 --> 02:02:55,560
seeing as a species in here, God damn it. And

2055
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:58,399
I only heard about this family when I look at

2056
02:02:58,439 --> 02:03:01,399
one of those Field Museum ped of God, it looks

2057
02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:05,920
fucking weird. Jesus, it's so cool? Are those seeds in

2058
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:09,319
this tiny tiny thing? Not a drop of green in

2059
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:15,079
any of these photos? One of them looks like arach nitis. God,

2060
02:03:15,199 --> 02:03:18,560
tri rid deci is gymnocit, No Gymno. Sciphon's in another

2061
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:29,039
family genus Cahansia, Kupia, Lacendonia, Peltophylum, Syaphila, Sauridium triidopsis. Let's

2062
02:03:29,079 --> 02:03:33,359
see where's the distribution at? Yeah, yeah, Southeast Asia, Central

2063
02:03:33,479 --> 02:03:39,159
and South America, Madagascar, God damn it. And I have

2064
02:03:39,319 --> 02:03:42,279
not seen any of them. And there are plants that

2065
02:03:42,479 --> 02:03:49,119
parasitize fungi. What the fuck? Another family i've i've I

2066
02:03:49,199 --> 02:03:51,960
had never heard of until I sawt at Field Museum,

2067
02:03:52,039 --> 02:03:54,880
PDA Field Museum in Chicago. Maybe I'll go there next

2068
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,640
week when I'm in town for the Wild Things conference,

2069
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which is going on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And yeah,

2070
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,119
I don't know. It should be that should be a

2071
02:04:07,159 --> 02:04:10,159
fun experience. I wonder if they'll give us a table

2072
02:04:10,199 --> 02:04:12,039
for me and now to sell some merch. You know,

2073
02:04:12,119 --> 02:04:13,840
there's a lot of there's a lot of easy you know,

2074
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:15,920
it could be academic stuff over there. It could be

2075
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:21,560
people giving pd you know, PDF presentations, PowerPoint presentations, Google

2076
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,840
sights presentations about all kinds of important stuff that they're

2077
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:26,720
noticing in the world. And then they're gonna have me

2078
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:34,039
running my mouth and talking, so uh, you know, let's

2079
02:04:34,039 --> 02:04:35,800
hope they don't regret it. I think, I think though,

2080
02:04:36,319 --> 02:04:39,720
I think it'll be nice. Okay, I'll end it there.

2081
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,239
Please check out the order pandinales. I hope, I hope

2082
02:04:43,279 --> 02:04:46,520
you enjoyed that last forty minutes of ranting about the

2083
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:53,640
family cyclan thesy and they're bizarre beetle pollination syndrome, which

2084
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:58,159
is are there again? Do we know is the family

2085
02:04:59,199 --> 02:05:04,720
cyclant thes exclusively beatle pollinated or what? Because that's pretty uh,

2086
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:10,680
it's pretty interesting if so, is it exclusively can't throw

2087
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:17,880
filets anyway? Palms cyclantesy some rants about you know, horrible

2088
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:22,079
songs incurred as some sort of divine retribution on the

2089
02:05:22,199 --> 02:05:26,880
United States, as this episode covered everything. I'm gonna have

2090
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Thorn Scrub Sanctuary shirts for sale forty bucks shipping included.

2091
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:34,960
It's actually not that bad, right considering it's like a

2092
02:05:35,039 --> 02:05:38,399
five color screenprint next month. You can email me if

2093
02:05:38,439 --> 02:05:42,880
you want them. All donations will go strictly to Thorn Scrub.

2094
02:05:43,399 --> 02:05:46,520
Everything everything we make goes towards Thorn Scrub, towards getting

2095
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:52,479
us a well, towards setting up fencing, shooting pigs, et cetera.

2096
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And don't hesitate to look at those bugs. All right,

2097
02:05:56,079 --> 02:05:57,680
I know it's still frigid up there for some of

2098
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:00,239
you in the Nordon latitudes. I get a prey present

2099
02:06:00,520 --> 02:06:02,399
to a bunch of Canadians last night. Three hundred people

2100
02:06:02,399 --> 02:06:04,760
showed up for an online presentation and we had a

2101
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:08,880
great time. It was really fun. You know Canadians are

2102
02:06:10,279 --> 02:06:15,079
you know, there's a very very pleasant group. The question

2103
02:06:15,199 --> 02:06:17,399
and answer session was fun, it was. It was a nice,

2104
02:06:18,079 --> 02:06:22,159
nice time. I'm giving a couple other presentations. I'm gonna

2105
02:06:22,199 --> 02:06:26,560
be in the Atlanta area, uh one of the last

2106
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:29,760
weeks of April. Maybe we'll do a plant walk, maybe

2107
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:31,600
we'll do some stuff out there. I don't know what's

2108
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:34,199
going on, you know, we're gonna be in northern Georgia,

2109
02:06:35,279 --> 02:06:37,359
And what else am I doing? I forget what I

2110
02:06:37,399 --> 02:06:39,159
signed up for. I forget people where I asked me

2111
02:06:39,239 --> 02:06:41,119
to come to these spots. I forget what I'm doing.

2112
02:06:41,159 --> 02:06:43,079
Even I'm doing something in Austin in June. I forget.

2113
02:06:43,079 --> 02:06:44,680
I forget. I forget a lot of this stuff. I

2114
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:47,119
gotta start planning the trips of where I'm going to

2115
02:06:47,159 --> 02:06:49,520
be going this summer, after I can get this fucking

2116
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:51,520
book done too, which I god damn it, I can't

2117
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:55,319
wait to not have to look at uh Google docs

2118
02:06:55,359 --> 02:06:58,359
anymore for hours on on every day. Okay, that's all.

2119
02:06:58,359 --> 02:07:01,159
I got to have a grocery day, And please won't

2120
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you go fund yourself by