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two o'clock, and that means it is time to chat
with Ap Dylan, who is a reporter for the North
State Journal. You can read her work at nsjonline dot com.
She also publishes a substack dot com newsletter called more
to the Story, Ap.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm great, Pete. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, you know, just sifting through the
wreckage of an Oval office argument from Friday.
Speaker 2: Other than that doing well.
Speaker 1: So okay, So you had a AP does a prolific
amount of writing and reporting, so there's always a lot
of material to kind of get through. So I pulled
a couple of items out of the North State Journal.
The first was mainly I think for for people's awareness.
It's not exactly like a sexy kind of story. But
the Board of Elections is having a public comment period
for a bunch of proposed rule changes, and I think
this this goes through.
Speaker 3: April, right, April twenty one, yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, April twenty first, And so you can, I think,
what you submit these things online via email or something
or their website.
Speaker 3: Yes, there is a portal there in the article North State.
I have that link in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It can also be done by mail, snail mail, or
by emailing rulemaking dot SBOE at NCSB dot.
Speaker 1: Go and all these links are in the piece at
SJ online dot com. Also there there is going to
be you write a public hearing March sixth, ten am
at the Board of Elections office in Raleigh on Salisbury Street.
So March sixth, that's a couple of days from now,
so if people want to actually go and talk about
these rule changes, which I don't know, are these like
are these important rule changes? Are these new? Or because
the is it legislatively based or something like?
Speaker 2: What are these changes?
Speaker 3: Some of them were legislatively based and they those are
include things like challenges to the appointment of an observer.
It outlines how the county boards have to hear challenges
for good cause and appeals of decisions that were made.
It also has, you know, appeals of removals of an
observer from a voting site, and identification of observers, how
they're supposed to wear a tag so that people know
who they are. Those are not new. There are three
changes they're looking at that would affect protests and recounts,
probably triggered by the protected legal fight between Alison Riggs
and Jefferson Griffin for our state Supreme Court race, which
is still undetermined.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of those would require a board hearing to be
held within a determination may be held within two days
of a protest. I think it's there's a lot more
leeway in there in the original filing. It could be
anywhere like up to the next meeting of the board,
so that has to happen. And if the board determines
that a hearing is necessary, that has to be scheduled
within five business days instead of ten.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like that arrowing the window. Yeah, that's
what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: It sounds like this is like cleaning up and tightening
the schedule, so it it maybe would alleviate some of
this long drawn out process.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's stuff in there also, like the
county boards have to transmit their protest by email rather
than by other forms, so it has to be done
within twenty four hours emailed. So that's one thing. And
then there's like a first recount proposal that's in there
that would require county boards to schedule their first recount
within three business days of a recount request. But a
mandatory recount can't start older than the conclusion of the
county's canvas meeting, so those things might overlap. And basically
another one another rule prepare. It looks like it's trying
to standardize the use of machines for recounts. It's the
primary method, and it also sets up different rules for handcounts.
Interestingly county boards. Let's see, for the recounts, counties have
to schedule their first recount within three business days, okay,
and then after that hand counting would be required by
for machine rejected ballots by partisan team bye bye bye
bipartisan teams. Excuse me. So basically they're they're gonna do
handcouts have to go through, you know, and take only
the machine rejected ballots, right, So then secondary hand recounts
would be scheduled within a couple of business days with
twenty four hour notice. But part of the problem with
that is that it looks like the explicit clarification in
there is that if a machine successfully processes the ballot
during a recount, it won't be eligible for the hand recount,
even if there's potential issues with that ballot. So that's
the tricky part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So have you heard any opposition to any of
these rules up in Raleigh at all?
Speaker 3: Not yet, But I have a feeling that the public
comment information once it's posted will be all right.
Speaker 2: All right, So there's that.
Speaker 1: Then there is also this North Carolina Innovation Project or
this initiative n SEE Innovation five oh one c three nonprofit.
And this was very controversial, if I remember correctly, this
was sort of the it was an initiat spearheaded by
the legislative leaders, right Burger and Moore at the time.
And now there's a bill filed to try to reclaim
this money that is allocated for NC Innovation, which there
were republic There were a lot of Republicans that were
not cool with this idea because it was like, just
let the free market do this stuff. There's no reason
to be creating these funds for you know, research and
development or whatever like that should be done at the
private sector level. So does this bill stand any shot
of passage or is it you know, is it just
a posturing bill.
Speaker 3: Well, NCI was given MENCI Division. NCI was given five
hundred million and two equal tranches back in twenty twenty three.
Now that money was authorized to one hundred and forty million,
and that was authorized for direct spending my NCI, but
instead they reserved that principal amount, put it into an
investment account, and they accumulated over twenty million dollars interest,
and that's what they're using for their grant funds. Right now.
They have their first round of eight grants up and
there's only five point two million spent in that of
those interest funds for that. So this is really the
people's money working for them in a way. And the
whole point of this project was to provide acceleration grants
to projects at universities and colleges to get them out
into the market faster. And there are at least a
dozen states already doing this kind of work that's being
funded by their legislators or by the state. So North
Carolina is sort of behind the behind the trend on
that one, and this was going to bring them back
up to back up the speed. Now the main opponent
to it in the House has been represented Perry Warren
out of Rowland County. He wants to see that money
brought back. He wants to see the five hundred million
as well as the remaining fifteen million interests brought back
to the state. This is a clawback bill in that
it's since here.
Speaker 1: They essentially created with like for all intents and purposes,
it's an endowment fund right, endowment?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. They weren't just you know, given the five
internetons said go crazy. No, the money was an endowment
and it was given in two separate pockets of two
fifty each. So you know, this has been a problem
that has been fought between the House and n see innovation. Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the appointments there to the board was Art Pope,
the John Locke Foundations founder. He was he was on
board there and early on he wanted all these audits
done of their records of how they were spending it
how they were investing their money. And he actually sent
that audit request while sitting in a meeting at NCI
that was outlining everything that he was asking about. So
there's been a little bit of rub in there. They
haven't been very forthcoming on that over an ency guys
to exactly how how much friction is going on there.
But he was an appointment by House Speaker to more.
Speaker 1: Well and More's yeah to Congress now right, And it
seems like this is it's not a great time for
NC Innovation to be having to defend this kind of
a model because it's it seems a lot like USAID.
It sounds a lot like what we're seeing at the
national level, where you've got these grant writing or paying
organizations funded by tax dollars and then they're just pushing
money out the door to various programs, and like you could,
it's the model just kind of lends itself to be abused.
You also have the pressure financially that the state has
other things that I would argue our higher needs, like
Western North Carolina disaster recovery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you go to the NCI website, they
are extraordinarily transparent about it. They have all their grant
programs up there. They have the whole process of how
they vet them. It's a multiple committee vetting process, and
there are people assigned to watch how the money is
actually being spent at the project. So it is all
there available for the public there. They also accept public
records request. Anyone in the in the public can ask
for this information. So it's kind of out there as
opposed to the USAID, which just had like a blanket
statement about what it was about and you can't find
anything information about it.
Speaker 2: True. Now, I'm just I'm saying that a little different.
Speaker 1: It is different, but the model itself is It's not
a great time to be having to defend a model
that seems similar to the to the USA. I D one, Like,
I understand what you're saying about the disclosure, right, true.
Speaker 3: I mean five hundred million is a lot of money. However,
it's less than what was spent on the Opportunity Scholarship program.
But they're not calwing that back right Well no, so yeah,
I mean there's a case to be made on both sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, And this is why divided Republicans because like traditionally
the state has done these kinds of like individual grants,
you know, I.
Speaker 3: Mean there's a j dig Yeah, I mean there's the
governor's investment programs. I mean they were given out my right,
left and center to you know, film companies and things
to come film in North Carolina. And you know, then
there was wolf Speed, which has said all kinds of problems.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's a weak argument that it easy to
be spent elsewhere at this time, especially when it's been
invested and they're using the investment funds from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You could read AP's work over at North State Journal
NSJ online dot com, also at her substack, which is
called more to the Story. You just search for it
up at substack dot com. AP got a run. We
appreciate your time as always, We'll see you next next week.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Thanks Pete, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2: That's AP.
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was something she had written on her substack more to
the story as the name of the substack. According to
an FBI press release, the agency is conducting a major
crackdown on South American theft gangs or satgs or SAgs
as I like to call them. The release highlights related arrests,
including two individuals in Manhattan's Diamond District accused of running
a major fence operation for stolen goods, and three others
indicted in Cincinnati for burglarizing an NFL player's home. But
AP warns don't get too excited because the focus of
the crackdown is only on the homes owned by athletes.
Speaker 2: That's the yeah.
Speaker 1: So unless you're a professional athlete that got your home burglarized, sorry,
doesn't look like the FBI is going to prioritize a
South American theft group that goes into your home. Per
the press release, the operations specifically targeted criminals who monitored
professional athletes travel schedules to rob their homes when unoccupied,
though the FBI does mention these groups victimize many types
of targets, including traveling jewelry salesmen. That is a gig
that I don't think I would ever, Well, I'm not
qualified to do it, but I don't know if I
don't think I would ever want to do that job.
To drive around with potentially millions of dollars worth of
precious gems and just hope that you don't forget, you know,
leave the car unlocked. You're not aware all the time
all around you because like usually if from what I understand,
like these it's like, you know, a guy in a car.
It's not like a Brinks armored vehicle from what I
understand now, maybe some now have started doing.
Speaker 2: It that way, but.
Speaker 1: That's what I would have. I would have an armored
vehicle with somebody riding shotgun. You know, I would have.
Speaker 2: This man anyway.
Speaker 1: Charlotte Observer reports that the Honduran consul in Charlotte says
more people want to move back to Honduras since Trump
got back into office. I am old enough to remember
when people attacked and mocked Mitt Romney who talked about
self deportation.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that Mit Romney? I think that was more.
Speaker 1: I think that was Romney, this idea that they'll self
deport and everybody lost their minds. Well, I say everybody,
I mean the media and Democrats, But I repeat myself
that They were like, oh my god, I can't believe
you said that, but that is that is true, I
mean and honestly that is what Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Tried to convey. I mean, it was a lie.
Speaker 1: But when he said, you know, du don't he's trying
to tell people don't come right, And that's what Kamala
Harris then went down. Remember when she was going to
go visit South American nations to try to get to
the root causes of illegal immigration, and then she her
big reveal.
Speaker 2: You know, her key takeaway was don't come right? Is
what's the strategy there?
Speaker 1: Like, just set aside for the moment that they were
lying that they actually do want people to come, But
just set that aside. Why would you tell people not
to come here illegally? Why would you say that? Right,
you don't want them to but why publicize it because
they might listen to you? Right, It's part of a
pr campaign, Right, it's marketing, it's branding. It's saying we
don't want you to come, so don't come.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: If the people that you're telling that to know that,
if they just ignore your advice and arrive, that you
will then help them out all sorts of ways and
they'll never get sent home. Well, then there's no incentive
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sitting down? Okay, here's the shocking information that requires you
to be in a seated position. People respond to incentives
and they will also respond to disincentives. There you go say,
aren't you glad you were sitting down for that? It
is amazing. Once you know verbalize that, you can now
kind of Oh, now I understand. You know that if
you disincentivize something, people will tend not to do it,
and that's what we're seeing in a completely shocking development. Yes,
people are trying now to leave if they are not
in America legally. So. Charlotte Observer has a story by
Ryan Orley as President Donald Trump seeks to rewrite immigration
rules through executive orders more people. Trump, Actually, let me
hang on. There are two separate things going on here.
Trump is trying to you call it rewrite rules through
executive order, but that's what all executive orders do, and
it's no different than Joe Biden rewriting rules through executive order. Okay,
I object to this, but I lost that argument to
the left a long time ago.
Speaker 2: We all did.
Speaker 1: And so presidents use executive orders all the time. Again,
not happy about it, but this is a normal course
of events.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The other thing is that as the chief executive of
the branch of government that handles all of the agencies,
the administration and such, he gets to direct those a
agencies how to behave obviously within the parameters of the law.
And so he's like, you know what, we're going to
focus on this. There's a new boss. They took over,
and now we're going to focus on you know, this
priority and not that other priority that the last boss
was focused on. This happens all the time. Happens all
the time. It happens at the Charlotte Observer. I am
certain I know of one example, so I know it
used to happen.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it still does.
Speaker 1: But so Donald Trump is not seeking to rewrite immigration
rules through executive orders. He enforced rules that were already
in place. He enforced He is enforcing laws that are
already in place, which should be the tell that the
previous administration and the media that enabled it lied to
you about what they could and could not do in
order to reduce illegal immigration. Let me get back to
the story, though, So I don't get too far off track.
More people from Honduras and living in the Charlotte region
want to go back. According to the local consulate, they
are being driven by fear, said General Consul Enrique Flores Dubon.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: Especially the women. A lot of them are telling me,
what's a woman? Hang on a second? What is that word?
What does that word mean? Anyway, especially the women, A
lot of them are telling me that they want to
go back home. I think the biggest fear is that.
Speaker 2: We hang on a second.
Speaker 1: I thought they came here because if they were asylum seekers,
it was because they couldn't stay in their home country.
I think the biggest fear is that if Ice grabs
them or something, they're not going to have time to
take the kids. So they're thinking of the kids, right.
This is the disincentive that the family will get split
split up. If mom is illegal and the kids are not,
then the family gets split up unless you take the
kids with you, right. So you have time now to
make plans to leave, and that's what some people are doing.
Speaker 2: He says.
Speaker 1: Fewer people are coming into the consulate office for passports,
but far more are registering their children for dual citizenship.
In Honduras. More are looking to move back to Honduras too.
Before the end of February, the Consulate had filled out
dual citizenship paperwork for two thousand people, about the total
number in all of twenty twenty four. It okay, so
people are now seeking dual citizenship. Why because the kids
are US citizens thanks to birthright citizenship aka the quote
anchor baby issue right where illegals come in they have
the kids, the kids are American citizens then by birth,
and then if there is any kind of deportation of
the parents, the kids don't have to go. But the
kids are American citizens. So if they don't have the
dual citizenship, they don't have the passports or whatever at
that time, they're not going to be able to go
back with mom and dad. So the parents are taking
active steps to right prepare. They're acting rationally. These are
rational behaviors, just like looking to go back to your
home country. The recent trend matches. Oh here, sorry, let's
get this part. So far this year, four people have
moved back to Honduras with the Consulate's help. That is
not a typo as I understand it. It is four.
That's four people, so zero went last year. So four
is an improvement over zero, right, unless, of course, you're
in open borders everybody can come and state person.
Speaker 2: Right. If that's your opinion.
Speaker 1: About, you know, the immigration rules that you would like
to see implemented, then this is all a horror show.
Speaker 2: To you.
Speaker 1: Four people moving back to their home country is an outrage,
But to me it is not because they're doing so voluntarily. Right,
They're making the choice that the risk isn't worth it.
In other words, the juice is not worth the squeeze.
So they're acting in a rational way. So there's that,
And then there is the story out of the Fayetteville area.
A Haitian migrant charged with triple murder in Fayetteville who
allegedly killed members of his family last week, had come
to the United States as part of former President Joe
Biden's controversial migrant Flights program. The Fayetteville Police Department said
that twenty six year old mckendy d'arbouse had been charged
with three counts of first degree murder in the killings
of seventy seven year old Beatrice desc as well as
a thirteen year old and a four year old. Police
responded to a home at nine am on February twenty first,
after getting a report that a stabbing had occurred in
a home a local ABC station in Raleigh. This is
according to the New York Post report. A local ABC
I'm assuming that's ABC eleven reported that authorities said that
Darbuse greeted police at the door with blood on his hands, face,
and pants. At the time of the stabbings. There were
three other children inside the home. Authorities also said the
surveillance footage shows d'arbuse walking around with a knife, and
during a preliminary investigation, they located a knife with blood
on it in his room. Ice told Fox News that
Darbuse had flown into the United States in July as
part of Biden's Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela program. The
Migrant Flight's mass parole program, which was challenged you'll recall
by governors, if I remember correctly, or attorneys general saying
that you're.
Speaker 2: Not doing.
Speaker 1: Paroles in the way that is prescribed by law. You
cannot do a blanket parole right. Majorcus was asked this
during congressional hearings as well, that when you do these
parole grants, you're just doing it for everybody, but the
loss as you're supposed to review the cases and you're
not reviewing each individual case. So this guy came through
under that program and then murdered two kids and an
elderly woman in Fayetteville. And by the way, the immigration
crackdown has already led to real results. All right, if
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US Customs and Border Yeah and border protection. I always
want to call it border patrol southwest border encounters.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: This is from twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty
twenty four, so we have full years and twenty twenty
five so far. Okay, So in twenty two we had
one hundred and sixty six thousand border encounters southwest border
encounters one hundred and sixty six thousand twenty twenty three.
That dropped by like ten thousand. Last year it went
up by almost thirty thousand, or a little bit more
than thirty thousand, thirty five thousand. So far this year
we've only had eighty three hundred, eight thousand, three hundred.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: There were eighty four hundred and fifty Border patrol recorded
apprehensions who crossed into the country unlawfully between the official entry.
Speaker 2: Points along the border.
Speaker 1: Okay, So these are just people that are crossing the border,
not at the official entry points eighty four hundred and
fifty see BS News reports. On some days during a
record spike in illegal crossings, under the previous administration, border
patrol would record more than eight thousand apprehensions in a
day in a day, so we're having eight thousand in
a month, whereas we used to have eight thousand in
a day. February's total, which could be adjusted when the
government officially publishes the statistics, would be the lowest monthly
apprehensions tally recorded by border patrol since at least two thousand,
so a quarter of a century. That is the last
period with public monthly data. The final tallies usually don't
deviate much from the preliminary figures.
Speaker 2: Again, that's according to CBS News.
Speaker 1: Ed Morrissey at hotair dot com said Donald Trump's return
to the presidency has not just returned to llegal border
crossings to the level seen in his first term, the
new focus on border security and immigration enforcement has driven
illegal crossings down two levels not seen since Bill Clinton's
final year in office. Trump accomplished this with six weeks
within six weeks of taking office simply by enforcing the
existing law and rounding up criminal illegal aliens that Biden's
DHS Home Land Security had ignored the change of policies,
as well as the immediate application of security resource to
the border, has had a predictable effect on what did
I say earlier incentives. People who saw the Biden Harris
promises as incentives to cross the border for four years
now see the disincentives in place that outweigh any potential benefit.
Morrisy says, quote. Those disincentives apply even more to coyotes
and other human traffickers who had made a fortune over
the past four years as well. One of the other
stories I saw was that the cartel leaders like they
were all freaking out.
Speaker 2: I don't know about all of them.
Speaker 1: But the reports are that they're like they're hiding on
their in bunkers and stuff. They're like they're worried about
after like there was an ied that blew up on
some farmer's property and killed the man. Right, we've designated
them as foreign terrorist organizations and stuff like it's weapons
hot against these guys along the border, and they have
taken notice. Morris He says both Biden and Harris tried
to shift blame for the Biden border crisis to Donald Trump,
accusing him of making it impossibly to secure the border
after Trump pushed Republicans in Congress to oppose the Biden
Harris immigration reform quote unquote compromise. Remember that, remember all
of that. Oh, yo, he killed the deal. You should
ask Trump he killed the deal. And then, of course
everybody on the left and the media, but I repeat myself,
they're all like, oh, he killed the deal. He wanted
the issue, he wanted the issue. No, he said, it's
a bad deal. It's a bad deal. That compromise would
have prevented serious enforcement as long as the rate of
illegal border crossings remained at twenty five hundred per day.
Speaker 2: Per day.
Speaker 1: We're at eight thousand a month now, and the deal
that Biden and the Democrats wanted was to keep it
at twenty five hundred a day. I'm not going to
do the math on that, but that's way more than
eight thousand a month. Everything that they said about border
enforcement was a lie.
Speaker 2: It was a lie.
Speaker 1: They did not need a bill to reduce border security
or to enforce border security to reduce illegal immigration. To
control immigration, Trump has managed to do it without that bill. Right,
he did it the first term, and he's done it
in six weeks. Biden and Harris created the border crisis
because they wanted to force Republicans to sign on to
that bad bill, and that would have left illegal crossings
at historic highs for as long as possible. Right, the
progressive elite, they detest the idea of borders. Right Morris,
He goes on to say, he never would have even cared.
The elites, never would have even cared about this crisis
unless what Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis had never busted
and flown illegals into Marthur's vineyard in Washington, D c.
And New York and Chicago. Right, Trump has exposed their
lie in less than two months in office. He has
done more to secure America's southern border in forty days
than Biden and Harris did in four years. And he
did it with existing law, with existing resources. Right, and
Congress did not need to lift a finger. They did
not need to do a single thing. It is up
to the president to do it.
Speaker 2: You knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 1: Trump knew it. A lot of people in Congress knew
it too. I do wonder if the media knew it.
And then they just lied to us about it. They
gaslit us either way the results of this all right,
that'll do it for this episode.
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