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Okay, so it is Monday, it's 10 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:34,439 two o'clock, and that means it is time to chat 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,159 with Ap Dylan, who is a reporter for the North 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,799 State Journal. You can read her work at nsjonline dot com. 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,119 She also publishes a substack dot com newsletter called more 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,600 to the Story, Ap. 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,359 Speaker 2: How are you? 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm great, Pete. How are you doing? 17 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:51,799 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, you know, just sifting through the 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,560 wreckage of an Oval office argument from Friday. 19 00:00:57,679 --> 00:00:59,719 Speaker 2: Other than that doing well. 20 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,679 Speaker 1: So okay, So you had a AP does a prolific 21 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:06,040 amount of writing and reporting, so there's always a lot 22 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:08,879 of material to kind of get through. So I pulled 23 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:11,040 a couple of items out of the North State Journal. 24 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:15,879 The first was mainly I think for for people's awareness. 25 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:19,319 It's not exactly like a sexy kind of story. But 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,920 the Board of Elections is having a public comment period 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,640 for a bunch of proposed rule changes, and I think 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,120 this this goes through. 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: April, right, April twenty one, yep. 30 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, April twenty first, And so you can, I think, 31 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:41,719 what you submit these things online via email or something 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,040 or their website. 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: Yes, there is a portal there in the article North State. 34 00:01:47,799 --> 00:01:49,040 I have that link in there. 35 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: It can also be done by mail, snail mail, or 37 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:57,799 by emailing rulemaking dot SBOE at NCSB dot. 38 00:01:57,599 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Go and all these links are in the piece at 39 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:04,400 SJ online dot com. Also there there is going to 40 00:02:04,439 --> 00:02:07,560 be you write a public hearing March sixth, ten am 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,879 at the Board of Elections office in Raleigh on Salisbury Street. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,199 So March sixth, that's a couple of days from now, 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,280 so if people want to actually go and talk about 44 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:20,639 these rule changes, which I don't know, are these like 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,840 are these important rule changes? Are these new? Or because 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,159 the is it legislatively based or something like? 47 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: What are these changes? 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: Some of them were legislatively based and they those are 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,319 include things like challenges to the appointment of an observer. 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,319 It outlines how the county boards have to hear challenges 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,879 for good cause and appeals of decisions that were made. 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,240 It also has, you know, appeals of removals of an 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,599 observer from a voting site, and identification of observers, how 54 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:51,280 they're supposed to wear a tag so that people know 55 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:55,199 who they are. Those are not new. There are three 56 00:02:55,319 --> 00:02:58,879 changes they're looking at that would affect protests and recounts, 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,039 probably triggered by the protected legal fight between Alison Riggs 58 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:07,400 and Jefferson Griffin for our state Supreme Court race, which 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,319 is still undetermined. 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: One of those would require a board hearing to be 62 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:17,360 held within a determination may be held within two days 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,319 of a protest. I think it's there's a lot more 64 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:24,039 leeway in there in the original filing. It could be 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,719 anywhere like up to the next meeting of the board, 66 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:31,560 so that has to happen. And if the board determines 67 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,719 that a hearing is necessary, that has to be scheduled 68 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:35,520 within five business days instead of ten. 69 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: So it sounds like that arrowing the window. Yeah, that's 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:38,800 what I'm gonna say. 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,159 Speaker 1: It sounds like this is like cleaning up and tightening 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,400 the schedule, so it it maybe would alleviate some of 73 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:49,560 this long drawn out process. 74 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:52,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's stuff in there also, like the 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,080 county boards have to transmit their protest by email rather 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,199 than by other forms, so it has to be done 77 00:03:58,199 --> 00:04:03,039 within twenty four hours emailed. So that's one thing. And 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,719 then there's like a first recount proposal that's in there 79 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:09,280 that would require county boards to schedule their first recount 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,719 within three business days of a recount request. But a 81 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:16,920 mandatory recount can't start older than the conclusion of the 82 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:22,920 county's canvas meeting, so those things might overlap. And basically 83 00:04:22,959 --> 00:04:26,000 another one another rule prepare. It looks like it's trying 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,680 to standardize the use of machines for recounts. It's the 85 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,920 primary method, and it also sets up different rules for handcounts. 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,800 Interestingly county boards. Let's see, for the recounts, counties have 87 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,600 to schedule their first recount within three business days, okay, 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,720 and then after that hand counting would be required by 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,879 for machine rejected ballots by partisan team bye bye bye 90 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,800 bipartisan teams. Excuse me. So basically they're they're gonna do 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,519 handcouts have to go through, you know, and take only 92 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,079 the machine rejected ballots, right, So then secondary hand recounts 93 00:05:03,079 --> 00:05:05,120 would be scheduled within a couple of business days with 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,519 twenty four hour notice. But part of the problem with 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:14,759 that is that it looks like the explicit clarification in 96 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,519 there is that if a machine successfully processes the ballot 97 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,399 during a recount, it won't be eligible for the hand recount, 98 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,600 even if there's potential issues with that ballot. So that's 99 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:26,319 the tricky part. 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, So have you heard any opposition to any of 101 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:31,519 these rules up in Raleigh at all? 102 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:34,959 Speaker 3: Not yet, But I have a feeling that the public 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,199 comment information once it's posted will be all right. 104 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: All right, So there's that. 105 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Then there is also this North Carolina Innovation Project or 106 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:51,240 this initiative n SEE Innovation five oh one c three nonprofit. 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,519 And this was very controversial, if I remember correctly, this 108 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,959 was sort of the it was an initiat spearheaded by 109 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,480 the legislative leaders, right Burger and Moore at the time. 110 00:06:06,519 --> 00:06:09,879 And now there's a bill filed to try to reclaim 111 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,279 this money that is allocated for NC Innovation, which there 112 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:18,480 were republic There were a lot of Republicans that were 113 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:20,560 not cool with this idea because it was like, just 114 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:23,279 let the free market do this stuff. There's no reason 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,600 to be creating these funds for you know, research and 116 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,120 development or whatever like that should be done at the 117 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,560 private sector level. So does this bill stand any shot 118 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,040 of passage or is it you know, is it just 119 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:38,839 a posturing bill. 120 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: Well, NCI was given MENCI Division. NCI was given five 121 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,639 hundred million and two equal tranches back in twenty twenty three. 122 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,319 Now that money was authorized to one hundred and forty million, 123 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:53,639 and that was authorized for direct spending my NCI, but 124 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:57,040 instead they reserved that principal amount, put it into an 125 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,399 investment account, and they accumulated over twenty million dollars interest, 126 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:02,920 and that's what they're using for their grant funds. Right now. 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,079 They have their first round of eight grants up and 128 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,439 there's only five point two million spent in that of 129 00:07:07,439 --> 00:07:10,279 those interest funds for that. So this is really the 130 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:14,079 people's money working for them in a way. And the 131 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,199 whole point of this project was to provide acceleration grants 132 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,600 to projects at universities and colleges to get them out 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,519 into the market faster. And there are at least a 134 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,279 dozen states already doing this kind of work that's being 135 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,279 funded by their legislators or by the state. So North 136 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:34,079 Carolina is sort of behind the behind the trend on 137 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,839 that one, and this was going to bring them back 138 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:39,600 up to back up the speed. Now the main opponent 139 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,000 to it in the House has been represented Perry Warren 140 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:46,160 out of Rowland County. He wants to see that money 141 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,240 brought back. He wants to see the five hundred million 142 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:50,639 as well as the remaining fifteen million interests brought back 143 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:53,240 to the state. This is a clawback bill in that 144 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:54,600 it's since here. 145 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: They essentially created with like for all intents and purposes, 146 00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:00,519 it's an endowment fund right, endowment? 147 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. They weren't just you know, given the five 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,800 internetons said go crazy. No, the money was an endowment 149 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,240 and it was given in two separate pockets of two 150 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:15,879 fifty each. So you know, this has been a problem 151 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,720 that has been fought between the House and n see innovation. Really. 152 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 153 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: One of the appointments there to the board was Art Pope, 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,160 the John Locke Foundations founder. He was he was on 155 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,879 board there and early on he wanted all these audits 156 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,480 done of their records of how they were spending it 157 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:37,799 how they were investing their money. And he actually sent 158 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,519 that audit request while sitting in a meeting at NCI 159 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,600 that was outlining everything that he was asking about. So 160 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:49,960 there's been a little bit of rub in there. They 161 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 haven't been very forthcoming on that over an ency guys 162 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,639 to exactly how how much friction is going on there. 163 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,840 But he was an appointment by House Speaker to more. 164 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:03,639 Speaker 1: Well and More's yeah to Congress now right, And it 165 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,799 seems like this is it's not a great time for 166 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,879 NC Innovation to be having to defend this kind of 167 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:14,440 a model because it's it seems a lot like USAID. 168 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,720 It sounds a lot like what we're seeing at the 169 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:21,279 national level, where you've got these grant writing or paying 170 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,159 organizations funded by tax dollars and then they're just pushing 171 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,320 money out the door to various programs, and like you could, 172 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:33,639 it's the model just kind of lends itself to be abused. 173 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,279 You also have the pressure financially that the state has 174 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,120 other things that I would argue our higher needs, like 175 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:44,320 Western North Carolina disaster recovery. 176 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you go to the NCI website, they 177 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:51,159 are extraordinarily transparent about it. They have all their grant 178 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,360 programs up there. They have the whole process of how 179 00:09:53,399 --> 00:09:57,240 they vet them. It's a multiple committee vetting process, and 180 00:09:57,279 --> 00:09:59,240 there are people assigned to watch how the money is 181 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,200 actually being spent at the project. So it is all 182 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,159 there available for the public there. They also accept public 183 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,480 records request. Anyone in the in the public can ask 184 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,440 for this information. So it's kind of out there as 185 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,720 opposed to the USAID, which just had like a blanket 186 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,559 statement about what it was about and you can't find 187 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,279 anything information about it. 188 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,399 Speaker 2: True. Now, I'm just I'm saying that a little different. 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,799 Speaker 1: It is different, but the model itself is It's not 190 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:24,159 a great time to be having to defend a model 191 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,240 that seems similar to the to the USA. I D one, Like, 192 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,720 I understand what you're saying about the disclosure, right, true. 193 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: I mean five hundred million is a lot of money. However, 194 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,399 it's less than what was spent on the Opportunity Scholarship program. 195 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,120 But they're not calwing that back right Well no, so yeah, 196 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,559 I mean there's a case to be made on both sides. 197 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 198 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:47,879 Speaker 1: No, And this is why divided Republicans because like traditionally 199 00:10:47,919 --> 00:10:51,480 the state has done these kinds of like individual grants, 200 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,080 you know, I. 201 00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: Mean there's a j dig Yeah, I mean there's the 202 00:10:57,039 --> 00:11:00,320 governor's investment programs. I mean they were given out my right, 203 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,840 left and center to you know, film companies and things 204 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:05,840 to come film in North Carolina. And you know, then 205 00:11:05,879 --> 00:11:08,799 there was wolf Speed, which has said all kinds of problems. 206 00:11:08,879 --> 00:11:09,279 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 207 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,159 Speaker 3: So I mean it is what it is. 208 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:12,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 209 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,159 Speaker 3: I think it's a weak argument that it easy to 210 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,240 be spent elsewhere at this time, especially when it's been 211 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,320 invested and they're using the investment funds from it. 212 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 213 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: You could read AP's work over at North State Journal 214 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,720 NSJ online dot com, also at her substack, which is 215 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:28,600 called more to the Story. You just search for it 216 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,159 up at substack dot com. AP got a run. We 217 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,639 appreciate your time as always, We'll see you next next week. 218 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,879 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Thanks Pete, all right, thank you. 219 00:11:36,279 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: That's AP. 220 00:11:36,879 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Dylan. Here's a great idea. How about making an escape 221 00:11:40,159 --> 00:11:43,759 to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 222 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,039 Just a quick drive up the mountain and cabins of 223 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,440 Asheville is your connection. Whether you're celebrating an anniversary, a honeymoon, 224 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,720 maybe you want to plan a memorable proposal, or get 225 00:11:52,759 --> 00:11:55,639 family and friends together for a big old reunion. 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According to 245 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:05,240 an FBI press release, the agency is conducting a major 246 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:12,120 crackdown on South American theft gangs or satgs or SAgs 247 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,360 as I like to call them. The release highlights related arrests, 248 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,679 including two individuals in Manhattan's Diamond District accused of running 249 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,240 a major fence operation for stolen goods, and three others 250 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:32,039 indicted in Cincinnati for burglarizing an NFL player's home. But 251 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:38,399 AP warns don't get too excited because the focus of 252 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,080 the crackdown is only on the homes owned by athletes. 253 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: That's the yeah. 254 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:51,799 Speaker 1: So unless you're a professional athlete that got your home burglarized, sorry, 255 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,559 doesn't look like the FBI is going to prioritize a 256 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,440 South American theft group that goes into your home. Per 257 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:05,480 the press release, the operations specifically targeted criminals who monitored 258 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:10,360 professional athletes travel schedules to rob their homes when unoccupied, 259 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:14,039 though the FBI does mention these groups victimize many types 260 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:20,879 of targets, including traveling jewelry salesmen. That is a gig 261 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,279 that I don't think I would ever, Well, I'm not 262 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,799 qualified to do it, but I don't know if I 263 00:14:25,799 --> 00:14:27,960 don't think I would ever want to do that job. 264 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:32,799 To drive around with potentially millions of dollars worth of 265 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:40,279 precious gems and just hope that you don't forget, you know, 266 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:44,919 leave the car unlocked. You're not aware all the time 267 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,240 all around you because like usually if from what I understand, 268 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,679 like these it's like, you know, a guy in a car. 269 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:52,279 It's not like a Brinks armored vehicle from what I 270 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,120 understand now, maybe some now have started doing. 271 00:14:54,919 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: It that way, but. 272 00:14:58,279 --> 00:14:59,919 Speaker 1: That's what I would have. I would have an armored 273 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,960 vehicle with somebody riding shotgun. You know, I would have. 274 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:08,679 Speaker 2: This man anyway. 275 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: Charlotte Observer reports that the Honduran consul in Charlotte says 276 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,759 more people want to move back to Honduras since Trump 277 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:25,399 got back into office. I am old enough to remember 278 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:32,639 when people attacked and mocked Mitt Romney who talked about 279 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 self deportation. 280 00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: Wasn't that Mit Romney? I think that was more. 281 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: I think that was Romney, this idea that they'll self 282 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,799 deport and everybody lost their minds. Well, I say everybody, 283 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:49,039 I mean the media and Democrats, But I repeat myself 284 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,720 that They were like, oh my god, I can't believe 285 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:53,480 you said that, but that is that is true, I 286 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,440 mean and honestly that is what Joe Biden. 287 00:15:57,559 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: Tried to convey. I mean, it was a lie. 288 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: But when he said, you know, du don't he's trying 289 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,120 to tell people don't come right, And that's what Kamala 290 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:12,960 Harris then went down. Remember when she was going to 291 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:15,960 go visit South American nations to try to get to 292 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,960 the root causes of illegal immigration, and then she her 293 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:21,759 big reveal. 294 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:26,519 Speaker 2: You know, her key takeaway was don't come right? Is 295 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,679 what's the strategy there? 296 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Like, just set aside for the moment that they were 297 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:33,879 lying that they actually do want people to come, But 298 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,600 just set that aside. Why would you tell people not 299 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,039 to come here illegally? Why would you say that? Right, 300 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,399 you don't want them to but why publicize it because 301 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,240 they might listen to you? Right, It's part of a 302 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,440 pr campaign, Right, it's marketing, it's branding. It's saying we 303 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:51,559 don't want you to come, so don't come. 304 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: Now. 305 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: If the people that you're telling that to know that, 306 00:16:55,919 --> 00:16:58,919 if they just ignore your advice and arrive, that you 307 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,919 will then help them out all sorts of ways and 308 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,639 they'll never get sent home. Well, then there's no incentive 309 00:17:03,679 --> 00:17:06,839 for them to actually follow your advice since the other 310 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,440 part of the equation, you know, Stories are powerful. 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People respond to incentives 331 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:30,119 and they will also respond to disincentives. There you go say, 332 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,200 aren't you glad you were sitting down for that? It 333 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:37,519 is amazing. Once you know verbalize that, you can now 334 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,440 kind of Oh, now I understand. You know that if 335 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,799 you disincentivize something, people will tend not to do it, 336 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:54,400 and that's what we're seeing in a completely shocking development. Yes, 337 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:57,920 people are trying now to leave if they are not 338 00:18:58,039 --> 00:19:01,920 in America legally. So. Charlotte Observer has a story by 339 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:07,400 Ryan Orley as President Donald Trump seeks to rewrite immigration 340 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:13,279 rules through executive orders more people. Trump, Actually, let me 341 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:16,119 hang on. There are two separate things going on here. 342 00:19:16,519 --> 00:19:20,359 Trump is trying to you call it rewrite rules through 343 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,440 executive order, but that's what all executive orders do, and 344 00:19:24,519 --> 00:19:30,160 it's no different than Joe Biden rewriting rules through executive order. Okay, 345 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:34,039 I object to this, but I lost that argument to 346 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,240 the left a long time ago. 347 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: We all did. 348 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,079 Speaker 1: And so presidents use executive orders all the time. Again, 349 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:45,680 not happy about it, but this is a normal course 350 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,240 of events. 351 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:46,559 Speaker 2: Now. 352 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: The other thing is that as the chief executive of 353 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:54,839 the branch of government that handles all of the agencies, 354 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:00,039 the administration and such, he gets to direct those a 355 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:05,000 agencies how to behave obviously within the parameters of the law. 356 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,319 And so he's like, you know what, we're going to 357 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,400 focus on this. There's a new boss. They took over, 358 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:14,200 and now we're going to focus on you know, this 359 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,400 priority and not that other priority that the last boss 360 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,920 was focused on. This happens all the time. Happens all 361 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,319 the time. It happens at the Charlotte Observer. I am 362 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,319 certain I know of one example, so I know it 363 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,000 used to happen. 364 00:20:28,039 --> 00:20:29,039 Speaker 2: I don't know if it still does. 365 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:35,279 Speaker 1: But so Donald Trump is not seeking to rewrite immigration 366 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,680 rules through executive orders. He enforced rules that were already 367 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,960 in place. He enforced He is enforcing laws that are 368 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:50,240 already in place, which should be the tell that the 369 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:54,119 previous administration and the media that enabled it lied to 370 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,079 you about what they could and could not do in 371 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,640 order to reduce illegal immigration. Let me get back to 372 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,799 the story, though, So I don't get too far off track. 373 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:08,519 More people from Honduras and living in the Charlotte region 374 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:13,119 want to go back. According to the local consulate, they 375 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,480 are being driven by fear, said General Consul Enrique Flores Dubon. 376 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,319 Speaker 2: Quote. 377 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,759 Speaker 1: Especially the women. A lot of them are telling me, 378 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,119 what's a woman? Hang on a second? What is that word? 379 00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:29,559 What does that word mean? Anyway, especially the women, A 380 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:31,240 lot of them are telling me that they want to 381 00:21:31,279 --> 00:21:34,759 go back home. I think the biggest fear is that. 382 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: We hang on a second. 383 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: I thought they came here because if they were asylum seekers, 384 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,200 it was because they couldn't stay in their home country. 385 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,240 I think the biggest fear is that if Ice grabs 386 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:49,160 them or something, they're not going to have time to 387 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,079 take the kids. So they're thinking of the kids, right. 388 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,200 This is the disincentive that the family will get split 389 00:21:56,559 --> 00:22:00,640 split up. If mom is illegal and the kids are not, 390 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,440 then the family gets split up unless you take the 391 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:08,440 kids with you, right. So you have time now to 392 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:13,799 make plans to leave, and that's what some people are doing. 393 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,079 Speaker 2: He says. 394 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,279 Speaker 1: Fewer people are coming into the consulate office for passports, 395 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,400 but far more are registering their children for dual citizenship. 396 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,440 In Honduras. More are looking to move back to Honduras too. 397 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:29,000 Before the end of February, the Consulate had filled out 398 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:33,119 dual citizenship paperwork for two thousand people, about the total 399 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,720 number in all of twenty twenty four. It okay, so 400 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,799 people are now seeking dual citizenship. Why because the kids 401 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:46,799 are US citizens thanks to birthright citizenship aka the quote 402 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:52,200 anchor baby issue right where illegals come in they have 403 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,279 the kids, the kids are American citizens then by birth, 404 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,400 and then if there is any kind of deportation of 405 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,319 the parents, the kids don't have to go. But the 406 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,720 kids are American citizens. So if they don't have the 407 00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:08,240 dual citizenship, they don't have the passports or whatever at 408 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,200 that time, they're not going to be able to go 409 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,519 back with mom and dad. So the parents are taking 410 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:21,400 active steps to right prepare. They're acting rationally. These are 411 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:25,480 rational behaviors, just like looking to go back to your 412 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:31,160 home country. The recent trend matches. Oh here, sorry, let's 413 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,119 get this part. So far this year, four people have 414 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:40,920 moved back to Honduras with the Consulate's help. That is 415 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,440 not a typo as I understand it. It is four. 416 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:48,799 That's four people, so zero went last year. So four 417 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,559 is an improvement over zero, right, unless, of course, you're 418 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:56,440 in open borders everybody can come and state person. 419 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: Right. If that's your opinion. 420 00:23:58,039 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: About, you know, the immigration rules that you would like 421 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,559 to see implemented, then this is all a horror show. 422 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:05,799 Speaker 2: To you. 423 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: Four people moving back to their home country is an outrage, 424 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:13,680 But to me it is not because they're doing so voluntarily. Right, 425 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,160 They're making the choice that the risk isn't worth it. 426 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,279 In other words, the juice is not worth the squeeze. 427 00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:24,640 So they're acting in a rational way. So there's that, 428 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,559 And then there is the story out of the Fayetteville area. 429 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:36,279 A Haitian migrant charged with triple murder in Fayetteville who 430 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:39,480 allegedly killed members of his family last week, had come 431 00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:42,119 to the United States as part of former President Joe 432 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:48,519 Biden's controversial migrant Flights program. The Fayetteville Police Department said 433 00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:52,920 that twenty six year old mckendy d'arbouse had been charged 434 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,680 with three counts of first degree murder in the killings 435 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,480 of seventy seven year old Beatrice desc as well as 436 00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:05,720 a thirteen year old and a four year old. Police 437 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:08,880 responded to a home at nine am on February twenty first, 438 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,400 after getting a report that a stabbing had occurred in 439 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,599 a home a local ABC station in Raleigh. This is 440 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,160 according to the New York Post report. A local ABC 441 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,319 I'm assuming that's ABC eleven reported that authorities said that 442 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,640 Darbuse greeted police at the door with blood on his hands, face, 443 00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:31,960 and pants. At the time of the stabbings. There were 444 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,119 three other children inside the home. Authorities also said the 445 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,799 surveillance footage shows d'arbuse walking around with a knife, and 446 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,640 during a preliminary investigation, they located a knife with blood 447 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,599 on it in his room. Ice told Fox News that 448 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,160 Darbuse had flown into the United States in July as 449 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:55,759 part of Biden's Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela program. The 450 00:25:55,839 --> 00:26:01,759 Migrant Flight's mass parole program, which was challenged you'll recall 451 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:05,160 by governors, if I remember correctly, or attorneys general saying 452 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,000 that you're. 453 00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: Not doing. 454 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: Paroles in the way that is prescribed by law. You 455 00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:16,960 cannot do a blanket parole right. Majorcus was asked this 456 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,359 during congressional hearings as well, that when you do these 457 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,200 parole grants, you're just doing it for everybody, but the 458 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,400 loss as you're supposed to review the cases and you're 459 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,400 not reviewing each individual case. So this guy came through 460 00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:35,160 under that program and then murdered two kids and an 461 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:42,039 elderly woman in Fayetteville. And by the way, the immigration 462 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,599 crackdown has already led to real results. All right, if 463 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,400 you're listening to this show, you know I try to 464 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,240 keep up with all sorts of current events, and I 465 00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:52,480 know you do too, And you've probably heard me say 466 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:56,680 get your news from multiple sources. 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I always 485 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:02,839 want to call it border patrol southwest border encounters. 486 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,319 Speaker 2: Okay. 487 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: This is from twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty 488 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:20,920 twenty four, so we have full years and twenty twenty 489 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,160 five so far. Okay, So in twenty two we had 490 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,880 one hundred and sixty six thousand border encounters southwest border 491 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,000 encounters one hundred and sixty six thousand twenty twenty three. 492 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:39,160 That dropped by like ten thousand. Last year it went 493 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,680 up by almost thirty thousand, or a little bit more 494 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,000 than thirty thousand, thirty five thousand. So far this year 495 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:52,960 we've only had eighty three hundred, eight thousand, three hundred. 496 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: That's it. 497 00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:04,519 Speaker 1: There were eighty four hundred and fifty Border patrol recorded 498 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:12,079 apprehensions who crossed into the country unlawfully between the official entry. 499 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:13,279 Speaker 2: Points along the border. 500 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,759 Speaker 1: Okay, So these are just people that are crossing the border, 501 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:19,000 not at the official entry points eighty four hundred and 502 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,200 fifty see BS News reports. On some days during a 503 00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:28,279 record spike in illegal crossings, under the previous administration, border 504 00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:33,440 patrol would record more than eight thousand apprehensions in a 505 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:43,039 day in a day, so we're having eight thousand in 506 00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,160 a month, whereas we used to have eight thousand in 507 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,960 a day. February's total, which could be adjusted when the 508 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,319 government officially publishes the statistics, would be the lowest monthly 509 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,720 apprehensions tally recorded by border patrol since at least two thousand, 510 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:06,720 so a quarter of a century. That is the last 511 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,039 period with public monthly data. The final tallies usually don't 512 00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:11,920 deviate much from the preliminary figures. 513 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: Again, that's according to CBS News. 514 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,119 Speaker 1: Ed Morrissey at hotair dot com said Donald Trump's return 515 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,960 to the presidency has not just returned to llegal border 516 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,839 crossings to the level seen in his first term, the 517 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,680 new focus on border security and immigration enforcement has driven 518 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:34,000 illegal crossings down two levels not seen since Bill Clinton's 519 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:40,319 final year in office. Trump accomplished this with six weeks 520 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,000 within six weeks of taking office simply by enforcing the 521 00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:51,519 existing law and rounding up criminal illegal aliens that Biden's 522 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,599 DHS Home Land Security had ignored the change of policies, 523 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:00,359 as well as the immediate application of security resource to 524 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,000 the border, has had a predictable effect on what did 525 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:10,640 I say earlier incentives. People who saw the Biden Harris 526 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,640 promises as incentives to cross the border for four years 527 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,680 now see the disincentives in place that outweigh any potential benefit. 528 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,960 Morrisy says, quote. Those disincentives apply even more to coyotes 529 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,119 and other human traffickers who had made a fortune over 530 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,079 the past four years as well. One of the other 531 00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,640 stories I saw was that the cartel leaders like they 532 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,359 were all freaking out. 533 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,799 Speaker 2: I don't know about all of them. 534 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: But the reports are that they're like they're hiding on 535 00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:48,920 their in bunkers and stuff. They're like they're worried about 536 00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:51,640 after like there was an ied that blew up on 537 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,279 some farmer's property and killed the man. Right, we've designated 538 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:01,240 them as foreign terrorist organizations and stuff like it's weapons 539 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:06,119 hot against these guys along the border, and they have 540 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,599 taken notice. Morris He says both Biden and Harris tried 541 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,720 to shift blame for the Biden border crisis to Donald Trump, 542 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,319 accusing him of making it impossibly to secure the border 543 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:23,000 after Trump pushed Republicans in Congress to oppose the Biden 544 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,839 Harris immigration reform quote unquote compromise. Remember that, remember all 545 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,880 of that. Oh, yo, he killed the deal. You should 546 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,440 ask Trump he killed the deal. And then, of course 547 00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,599 everybody on the left and the media, but I repeat myself, 548 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,759 they're all like, oh, he killed the deal. He wanted 549 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:41,200 the issue, he wanted the issue. No, he said, it's 550 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,119 a bad deal. It's a bad deal. That compromise would 551 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:50,400 have prevented serious enforcement as long as the rate of 552 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,000 illegal border crossings remained at twenty five hundred per day. 553 00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:56,279 Speaker 2: Per day. 554 00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: We're at eight thousand a month now, and the deal 555 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,160 that Biden and the Democrats wanted was to keep it 556 00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:08,119 at twenty five hundred a day. I'm not going to 557 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,200 do the math on that, but that's way more than 558 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,960 eight thousand a month. Everything that they said about border 559 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,960 enforcement was a lie. 560 00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: It was a lie. 561 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: They did not need a bill to reduce border security 562 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,880 or to enforce border security to reduce illegal immigration. To 563 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:33,519 control immigration, Trump has managed to do it without that bill. Right, 564 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,599 he did it the first term, and he's done it 565 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,920 in six weeks. Biden and Harris created the border crisis 566 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,119 because they wanted to force Republicans to sign on to 567 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,319 that bad bill, and that would have left illegal crossings 568 00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:52,880 at historic highs for as long as possible. Right, the 569 00:33:53,799 --> 00:34:02,519 progressive elite, they detest the idea of borders. Right Morris, 570 00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:05,319 He goes on to say, he never would have even cared. 571 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,760 The elites, never would have even cared about this crisis 572 00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:14,800 unless what Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis had never busted 573 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,440 and flown illegals into Marthur's vineyard in Washington, D c. 574 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:23,719 And New York and Chicago. Right, Trump has exposed their 575 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,199 lie in less than two months in office. He has 576 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,440 done more to secure America's southern border in forty days 577 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,719 than Biden and Harris did in four years. And he 578 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,679 did it with existing law, with existing resources. Right, and 579 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,719 Congress did not need to lift a finger. They did 580 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,920 not need to do a single thing. It is up 581 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,199 to the president to do it. 582 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: You knew it. I knew it. 583 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: Trump knew it. A lot of people in Congress knew 584 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,079 it too. I do wonder if the media knew it. 585 00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:57,840 And then they just lied to us about it. They 586 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,519 gaslit us either way the results of this all right, 587 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,079 that'll do it for this episode. 588 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:06,519 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. 589 00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: I could not do the show without your support and 590 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,519 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 591 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,920 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 592 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,719 them you heard it here. You can also become a 593 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,400 patron at my Patreon page or go to dpecleanershow dot com. Again, 594 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:23,199 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 595 00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:27,800 while I'm gone.