1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment. I just 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,000 want to like, I'm not even gonna look amazing tonight. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,599 I love what you're wearing. Said, Oh my god, they're 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,080 all I have an angry closs. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,119 Speaker 2: That is life. 6 00:00:15,119 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: But that's hard, like unless it's like an NBA team 7 00:00:17,399 --> 00:00:18,160 or something like. 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: Whoa, Hey, guys, welcome back to Holly Randall and Filtered. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,359 Before I introduce my guests, I want, of course, give 10 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:32,000 a shout out to my sponsors at strip Chat. 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My guest today is one of 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,519 those rare people who pulled it off. The move from 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,280 adult entertainment into mainstream media that everybody talks about and 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,400 almost nobody achieves. She's an old friend of the show, 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,719 so we don't need to rehash where she started. What's 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,159 worth talking about is where she is now, three books deep, 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,359 touring the country for live events, building a digital twin, 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,319 and a fantasy football career that has truly built a 29 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:30,040 new online identity for one of the most famous porn 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,799 stars in the world. 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: Please welcome Lisa Ann. 32 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:35,799 Speaker 2: That was lovely, Holly, thank you so much. It's great 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,120 to be back with you. I really got so much 34 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:40,200 good response from the last time I had a conversation 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,879 with you on your podcast, So thank you. 36 00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: You're welcome. I loved the last interview that we did. 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,719 Speaker 3: I feel like you got really raw and real and open. 38 00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:52,280 And I want to apologize because I know that there's 39 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:55,400 some people that's pulled clips out of context from that 40 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:00,159 and have been you know what people do online, Okay. 41 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:02,359 Speaker 2: So I'll fill everybody in. So one of the things 42 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:04,519 that I did in twenty twenty three, when I was 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,040 embarking on deciding to take a year, which ended up 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,039 being fifteen months off from adding to the space, was 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,759 I made my YouTube channel private because I realized that 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,960 there's these international clippers and they're kind of like an 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,199 anti porn They're like a like like an in cell 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,759 where they just want to bring out all the times 49 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:22,800 porn stars got emotional, whether it was talking about their 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,199 family whatever. So the clip that resurfaced two weeks ago 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,759 was me talking about the loss, the permanent loss of 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,919 my relationship with my family, and I teared up because 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,039 it was a real conversation we were having. Well did 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,520 I get drive for two weeks that I don't deserve 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,000 to have a family. They should hate me, I should 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,159 kill myself. I'm a horrible human being. So we're going 57 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,120 to keep this fun and I'm never going to let 58 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:46,520 anybody know what I'm really thinking ever Again. I've made 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,919 that an honest approach because we're at a clickbait era 60 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,719 that is more toxic than anything we've yet seen on 61 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:57,080 social media. We've got men who have had expectations from 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,360 their favorite star that didn't come to fruition, and now 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,960 they absolutely hate us and the war on sex workers. 64 00:03:03,479 --> 00:03:06,120 It's just climbing. And I'm writing this finish in this 65 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:08,840 third book right now about the manosphere, which to me 66 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,879 is just an in cel glow up Okay, you're just 67 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,280 giving it a better name. It's a glow up for itself. 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,199 That's what the manosphere as. Ever. Really, let's just get 69 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,120 us straight, because they're all in our space, most of 70 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:20,919 these men and the men, the leaders in the manosphere, 71 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:23,919 you know, started with the tape brothers with the webcams 72 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,280 in Romania, which I have nothing against them. I think 73 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:27,919 a lot of their words are great. I follow them, 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,759 I watch all their clips. All admit, I don't agree 75 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,960 with everything, but I don't have to agree with everything 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,159 somebody says, and I also don't have to comment. But 77 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,879 right now we're at this point where we're being demonized again. 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,919 And I can remember nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety two, 79 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:44,520 no banks would take my ones as a stripper, and 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,199 I bought a Mini Bronco with thirty five hundred dollars 81 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,000 in ones and gave the guy a five hundred dollar 82 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,199 tip at the dealership for counting out the ones. I 83 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,800 had to do everything in ones because if you tried 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,599 to walk into a bank back then as a stripper, 85 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,439 they'd be like, yo, we don't take your money. You 86 00:03:56,479 --> 00:04:00,120 can't give our cash here. And so we're circling back 87 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:03,280 to that, and I think it's an important stage we're 88 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,439 at because it's going to clean the streets of every 89 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:07,800 young woman thinking her only option to make good a 90 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,879 living is turning eighteen and starting an online profile and 91 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:13,039 the adult space. You should want to be in the 92 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:16,000 adult space. You should want to have sex, you should 93 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,600 want to celebrate sex, you should want to take sexy 94 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:21,199 photos and be a part of the whole world. But 95 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:24,639 we're just leading in with the money. And we saw 96 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:26,759 that with a Jenda Jamison era, where girls were getting 97 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:28,920 in the business because they wanted to be Jenna, And 98 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:30,560 now girls are getting in the business because they want 99 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,279 to make a hundred million dollars, which is a very 100 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:36,560 unique and small portion of those on these profiles. So yes, 101 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,240 I did get really dragged, and I was reminded that 102 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,759 I'm a loser and that I don't deserve to have 103 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:44,319 nice things and I should be treated like shit for 104 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:46,480 the rest of my life. I fully accept that because 105 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:49,040 that's what it is. I'd rob people joy and now 106 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:49,519 they hate me. 107 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: It's insane. 108 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:53,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes me sad because I love to 109 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,839 have people on and talk about real stuff, right and 110 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:58,319 talk about real life because the whole reason I started 111 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:00,879 this podcast was because I just love the people that 112 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,600 I work with, and I feel like I work with 113 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:08,600 such incredibly intelligent, you know, inspirational people with amazing stories 114 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,879 that just happened to work in the adult industry. 115 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: You know. 116 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: Look, I love to talk about gang bangs as much 117 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:17,720 as anybody else, but it's really nice to sometimes tie 118 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,920 into the humanity and the human experience that we all 119 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:24,879 go through. So I'm just sorry that that turned into 120 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:28,160 what it turned into and that people took that in 121 00:05:28,199 --> 00:05:29,959 a way that it was never meant to go. 122 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: But I mean, this is they're doing it. 123 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,199 Speaker 2: With all the clippers, every every nice thing that's been 124 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:35,920 said on your podcast from these clippers overseas, Like this crew, 125 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:39,120 I know exactly who they are, and they're just deamons. 126 00:05:39,319 --> 00:05:42,000 And what you've done for us is you've were so 127 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:44,639 comfortable because we've been so vulnerable in front of you 128 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,240 on set. You've seen us naked, you've seen us do scenes, 129 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,800 you've seen us have awkward moments, so it's easy for 130 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,319 us to open up to you. But I would advise 131 00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:55,279 anybody getting into the adult space to be very guarded 132 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:58,639 with your personal thoughts because you're actually not allowed to 133 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,120 have them, and we are controlled now by society because 134 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,399 if you try to do something good. Example, I just 135 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:08,439 took fifteen months off from adding to the vortex of 136 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:12,079 the world, no podcasts, no radio show, no sports stuff, 137 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,720 no nothing, to just see what remains and to see 138 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,639 what I missed, to see what I wanted to go 139 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,439 back to, and to just be doing less things but 140 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:21,720 do them better, right instead of having a million things, 141 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:24,000 have a couple of things that I'm doing really well. 142 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,879 And what I was my last year doing radio was 143 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:29,560 when this started to really get ugly, where the people 144 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,319 I was doing sports shows with started to get her asked. 145 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,720 Then somebody went through all of my podcast guests and 146 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:38,160 started to reach out to them on social media and 147 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:39,879 her asked them, how can you talk to her? She's 148 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,959 a piece of shit, she did porn, she's hard. And 149 00:06:41,959 --> 00:06:45,920 then I just realized, oh, my runoff is hurting people. 150 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,720 So I had to stop inviting guests on my podcasts. 151 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,639 I had to stopped doing a podcast. I made my 152 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,720 YouTube private. I just decided I would put things behind 153 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,000 a paywhile on subs and I would run a mainstream 154 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,720 page there that's like my YouTube. I do video calls 155 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:03,680 there just mainstream stuff. But when I realize people that 156 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,879 were now engaging with me were going to get attacked 157 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,480 because the attacks weren't working on me because I've got 158 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,279 thick skin. I get it, you know what I mean. 159 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:14,600 But I worry about younger people having to hear those 160 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,079 same things. There's nothing worse than being told to kill 161 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:20,439 yourself every day, and every day at least twenty times sometime. 162 00:07:20,959 --> 00:07:23,639 So I just started to feel this level of ick 163 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,519 where we're being suffocated right now by this resentment people have, 164 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:29,360 by the money that girls are bragging about. And what's 165 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:31,720 crazy is none of us in the industry ever bragged 166 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,439 about money. And we were also a more sexual group 167 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,720 of beings that got in to explore ourselves and to 168 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,720 try new things and to share ourselves with other people. 169 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:42,959 And I think that's removed the fantasy for a lot 170 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:45,680 of these guys that used to enjoy watching us more 171 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,480 and now they're filling ankst because they're like, I don't 172 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,439 want to know this girl's making one hundred million dollars, 173 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:53,600 you know. So it's an interesting space. Don't apologize for it. 174 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,439 It's not your fault. We just are going to see 175 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,439 cycles in all things in life. I mean, right now, 176 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,920 the talk is all about how less young people are drinking. Well, 177 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,240 remember twenty five years ago Marlborough was worried about people 178 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,040 not smoking. You know, now we're seeing less young people 179 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,879 watching porn. Well, yeah, because they're all sports betting, because 180 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:14,720 they're the first generation where it's legal for them to 181 00:08:14,759 --> 00:08:18,240 start sports betting online. So everything cycles, and right now 182 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 we're just in another one of those really vile, kind 183 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:22,879 of weird anti porn cycles. 184 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:24,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you and I have been in 185 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:27,759 the industry long enough to see, like, yep, this happened, 186 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:29,959 the up and the down, and you know, like it 187 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,120 was kind of cool. I went on doctor Arena Malick's 188 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,360 podcast and I got the opportunity to talk about the 189 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:37,080 history of porn, which nobody's ever asked me about, which 190 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,320 I've kind of seen in front of me. And you know, 191 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:42,600 the Mease Commission and like the Miller Tests and and 192 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,399 you know all the obscenity cases. You know, uh, John 193 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,039 Stagliano going for the Supreme Court and they're like playing 194 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,799 sporting videos to decide whether or not that's obscene. 195 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: So it's like we have seen this over and over 196 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,000 and over again. 197 00:08:55,279 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: Do you feel like this is sort of inescapable now 198 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:04,080 with tech anology, with the age verification going on, do 199 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,519 you feel like we're going down a path that we 200 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,679 can't come back from. 201 00:09:07,919 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: I think we're going to come back very differently. I'm 202 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:13,679 very pro age verification. And when my guy friends say 203 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,279 to me, like I don't want to put my ID in, 204 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:18,480 I'm like, you're not protecting you, You're protecting someone's child. 205 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,480 You know. The problem is the average age of a 206 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,919 viewer in the United States is ten years old. Those 207 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,480 ten year olds start grooming the ten year old girls 208 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,919 in school, bragging that they're watching these girls online, and 209 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,799 so from ten to eighteen, young girls are now pressured 210 00:09:32,159 --> 00:09:34,799 of like I want to be the girl that my 211 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:38,639 schoolmates are gushing over. It used to be we watched 212 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:42,120 the Dukes of Hazzard and the girl had the hot 213 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,519 shorts on, or Linda Carter, she was wonder woman, like 214 00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:47,440 we used to emulate different people. Now young kids only 215 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,960 emulate female porn stars, and so their classmates are getting 216 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,080 pushed to already start thinking about doing porn. Young girls 217 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,320 in the US are watching at the age of twelve, 218 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,080 whereas young boys are watching at ten trying to get 219 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,559 them to start watching me between ten and twelve. So 220 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,480 what we need to do is have an understanding of 221 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:05,559 where the age gates play a better role by having 222 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:09,480 IDs uploaded. And once we get through this cycle, I 223 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:11,919 see it as a five to ten year cycle. Once 224 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:14,799 we get through this, we just have a very interesting 225 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,200 group of young men that it spit out. This is 226 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,039 the generation that went through COVID. This is the generation 227 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,960 who went back to school and one of their favorite 228 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 classmates was a different gender. They have never been held, 229 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,639 they've never had this psychology work or anyone help them. 230 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,240 How do you process that? You know, we've forced so 231 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,759 many different ideologies on people, But what about the kids 232 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:36,399 who just wanted to be kids? You know? So I 233 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,639 think we're going to go through a real heated moment, 234 00:10:38,759 --> 00:10:41,679 and I think we're going to see things change drastically 235 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,080 in the next three to five years, and then in 236 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,840 ten years we're going to get back that people just 237 00:10:44,919 --> 00:10:47,759 appreciate porn because here it is I create a product 238 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:50,840 that you enjoy. You enjoy the product I enjoyed making 239 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,559 the product. That is it. That's where it ends. But 240 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,399 there's this thing now where fans if they use the 241 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:01,399 word fan. That means they're in titled to more. They 242 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:03,480 want some of your personal time. They want to know 243 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:05,559 more about you. They want to show up places you are, 244 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:08,000 they want to have the right to stalk you. That's 245 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,360 where we've got to change the mindset again. And really, 246 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,600 this is an additive to your life. You watch porn 247 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,600 for a little bit of an additive. It's like me 248 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,799 eating sweets. I love sweets. I can't eat them every day. 249 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:20,080 It will be a fat ass. You can't watch porn 250 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:23,559 every day NonStop and not have some sort of psychological 251 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,759 recussions from that. So it's about healthy consumption and healthy creators. 252 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: All right. 253 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: I want to change gears a little bit, okay, because 254 00:11:30,519 --> 00:11:31,720 I want to make sure that we cover this. 255 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: You're working on a third. 256 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: Book, Yes, I am working on a third book. The 257 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,679 Life was released in twenty fifteen. The Life Back was 258 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,360 released in twenty twenty one. This book is going to 259 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,759 be a little bit more of my experience and what 260 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,639 I've seen and then how much I've seen it change. 261 00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:49,759 I'm writing a lot about the manosphere because I find 262 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:53,159 it fascinating. I dove into the manosphere last year really heavy, 263 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:56,399 and I started interviewing a lot of people and asking 264 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,720 their experiences and what got them here, and really understanding 265 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:02,879 that group of people is going to help me understand 266 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:06,039 all of the pressures that young women are up against 267 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,799 to get into the sex business. 268 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: Now why, I mean, you know, we talk about the manisphere. 269 00:12:10,879 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: I think so much about like the loneliness epidemic that 270 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:17,279 we're facing, and how like I mean, I think they're 271 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,840 saying now that people are having sex less often. Yes, 272 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,799 they used to be, and it just seems like connections 273 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,320 between people is becoming more and more difficult. You know, 274 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:29,679 people don't meet each other in real life anymore, and 275 00:12:29,799 --> 00:12:34,000 everything's like through the phone and all of these parasocial relationships. 276 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Do you see a way in which that changes to 277 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:41,360 where we're back to, like I do, real human connection. 278 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what this book opens. My new book 279 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,679 opens with the understanding that we are now living in 280 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,200 the world with the generation who all of their first 281 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,320 five years of sexual experiences were on the Internet, and 282 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,960 they think they're sexually well versed, but they never touched 283 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,120 a person. They've never had that feeling of a hug 284 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:00,519 and intimacy and kissing at the neck and the teasing 285 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,159 and the disrobing and all of the intimate things that 286 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,600 come with it. The straight yes, they go straight there, 287 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:12,720 and so we're the loneliness epidemic is created. In my opinion, yes, 288 00:13:12,919 --> 00:13:16,279 the pandemic really did accelerate it. But when you have 289 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:20,080 young men watching porn at ten years old, it's addicting. 290 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,159 The dopamine hit is so hard they can't stop doing it, 291 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,240 and then they have a different skewed version of women 292 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,440 and people. I've interviewed some young people who have now 293 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,759 gone through a year without watching content at all to 294 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,200 then weaning themselves back to saying, on Friday nights, when 295 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,399 I do my laundry, I'm going to reward myself with 296 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,960 watching some of my favorite scenes. And once they do 297 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,720 that year, it's so cool to see how much more 298 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:44,840 effort they put to go out and just even talk 299 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:47,039 with a girl at a Starbucks or just make casual 300 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,080 conversation to get themselves comfortable again. But they've isolated themselves, 301 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,360 and they've also intimidated themselves because then when they're watching 302 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,600 a guy like Johnny Sin's at ten years old, they 303 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,399 think they have no shot to ever get a woman, 304 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:03,200 so they feel already they're up against it. The anxiety 305 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,440 that is caused by that we should have done better 306 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,320 with age gates from the jump. You can't go to 307 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,759 an adult bookstore and say I'm ten years old. You 308 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:13,600 can't go and buy cigarettes, you can't do any of 309 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,240 these things. So I do think that once we get 310 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,120 these parameters in place, kids are gonna have to be 311 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,799 kids again. And I was reading a great story from 312 00:14:21,799 --> 00:14:25,480 a bunch of teachers in the city. They've made phones 313 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,919 not legal in school in New York City. Yeah, so 314 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,799 it's so cool is the teachers are like, these kids 315 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:33,440 are like playing cards in the hallway. They're like talking 316 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,080 about making plans for the weekend. Like She's like, the 317 00:14:36,159 --> 00:14:38,399 things that I'm hearing now is so exciting. They're at 318 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,799 the lunch room and the volume is loud because they're 319 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,440 all talking to each other. So right away, instant shift 320 00:14:44,559 --> 00:14:47,159 in the loneliness epidemic. Instant shift. 321 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: I've been waiting for that, honestly, And like not to 322 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,159 make it sound like I'm a better parent or anything 323 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,879 like that, but like I will not allow like we 324 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,399 give Violet very little screen time, and we like when 325 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:01,559 we got to a rest ans, I do not let her 326 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:02,639 watch because I want. 327 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: To teach you how to enjoy being at a restaurant. 328 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: Or a mobile phone, which we have a bag we bring. 329 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:09,799 We have coloring books, we have crayons, all that kind 330 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,960 of stuff, because like I just I just go to 331 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,960 these restaurants and I see these kids are just like. 332 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,679 Speaker 2: The whole table can be the mom, the dad, the kids, 333 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:19,120 They're all doing their own thing. I'm like, you guys 334 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:22,879 could have done this at home right right as are 335 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:26,720 you there? Yeah, it's important you're doing that. And also 336 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:28,919 it's so great for communication. You know, when I walk 337 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,879 by a table in the city and I see three 338 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:34,799 generations a grandparent, their their child, and their child and 339 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,279 the little one is looking at their phone, I think 340 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,320 to myself, You're not going to have that grandparent in 341 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,279 your life forever. This is your chance and it's your 342 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,960 parents to be responsible for that. 343 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:47,919 Speaker 3: So you're doing in person appearances signings all over the country. Yes, 344 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,399 what is it about live events that keep you coming 345 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,519 back when you could just promote everything digitally? 346 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I know the answer to this question. 347 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:57,679 Speaker 2: You know, I did do fifteen months straight of only 348 00:15:57,679 --> 00:16:00,320 communicating with my fans through video calls on some and 349 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,000 I have like you know, five people in each city 350 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,960 that I love that I didn't want to not see. 351 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:06,960 But with a third book coming out, it's important to 352 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,120 get back out there and get my reps and go 353 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:11,480 into some mainstream bookstores, Like I'm going to be at 354 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,360 the last bookstore in Studio City July eighteenth, doing my 355 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:18,279 first real bookstore reading. Yeah. I just spend a month 356 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,240 cold calling bookstores and booking myself for these things. But 357 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,120 I really missed the human interactions. And then when it 358 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,279 came to Exotica, I miss checking in with the talent. 359 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:30,799 I miss being able to sit down the night before 360 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:33,000 the show and sit with everybody I can and be like, 361 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:36,360 what's important to you right now? What's bothering you right now? 362 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,679 What do you think is slipping away from you right now? 363 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,639 Because I can be that person that's like, hey, life 364 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:44,960 is great on the outside. I took the chance. I 365 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,799 walked away from ninety nine point nine percent of my income, 366 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:51,360 you know, leave in the industry, people don't understand it's 367 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:53,559 such a skill to be able to say, Okay, everything 368 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,759 I do from now on is going to be for 369 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,440 less money. You have to have a lot of guts 370 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,519 to do it, and you got to be tenacious about it, right, 371 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:03,000 and you just find things that you're passionate about. So 372 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,680 I missed those interactions as well. And I also miss 373 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,839 the ancillary shit, believe it or not, like the random 374 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,200 people you meet that work at a hotel or people 375 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,319 in the airport, people watching, like just the interaction of 376 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,839 it all. I just realized I miss that. I miss 377 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,640 just being in that blank space where people know I'm 378 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,519 going to event, they don't know what dam I'm getting there, 379 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,039 they don't know what I'm leaving, and I'm just like 380 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,519 circling around the world. 381 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:28,559 Speaker 1: And you've always been such like a big traveler. 382 00:17:28,759 --> 00:17:29,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. 383 00:17:29,279 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So kind of. 384 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,079 Speaker 3: On the flip side though, you're also you have a 385 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,880 digital twin, yes, so can you explain that to those 386 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:38,440 who might not. 387 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: Even know what that is and how that experience has 388 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,359 worked out. 389 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: For first and foremost, I'm with Oh chat Ai and 390 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,319 a digital twin. Do you know that song I don't 391 00:17:47,319 --> 00:17:48,880 want to do your dirty work no more? 392 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: Okay? So it's Dally dam. 393 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the theme song in my head every time 394 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,160 I'm posting for my digital twin. Because she handles everything 395 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,680 I don't she dirty sex with you? You could say 396 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,640 whateveryone want. She has no emotion, she needs no lunch breaks, 397 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,240 she doesn't sleep. But I've trained her in my voice, 398 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,880 so when they're texting with her, she's responding to me 399 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,400 just like I'm responding to you now in my voice. 400 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,880 She makes hardcore videos, she makes new photos. 401 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,079 Speaker 3: How is Zach, how is that working? Because I saw 402 00:18:16,079 --> 00:18:19,680 that technology a little while ago. It's come along getting there, 403 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,119 come along with those penis would like fall off in 404 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,039 the middle of the scene. 405 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's come a long way. They've really worked on 406 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,000 the tech and so she does all of that and 407 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:32,559 next month she starts webcamming, So so my guys are 408 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:34,119 going to be able to go on. It's a great 409 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,000 way to keep our brand alive. Uh, it's a great 410 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:39,000 way for me to be really engaged in the AI 411 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:41,559 space and to be watching the technology change and some 412 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:44,279 so AI heavy, But I knew I didn't want to 413 00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:46,799 create any adult content anymore, so it just made sense 414 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:49,799 sebas separate. Now, I'll never put AI content on my 415 00:18:49,839 --> 00:18:52,160 other platforms because I want people to know that's real content. 416 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:52,599 Speaker 1: Right. 417 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Those are the photos you and I shot, the solos, 418 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:57,599 We shot all that. But for people who want to 419 00:18:57,599 --> 00:18:59,400 go further, like, I have some fans that'll come in 420 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,279 the messages and I'll be like, look, this message is 421 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,920 a heavy emotional lift for me. I don't want to 422 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,440 sex with strangers. I don't want to build a fake 423 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,000 relationship with you because you think this twelve ninety nine 424 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,079 a month is like lay away on my vagina. Like 425 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,119 it's not. But I do have an idea. You can 426 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,359 go over to my oh Chat and if you like 427 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,880 it and you sign up, and you send me some 428 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,640 of your favorite pictures of the DM, I'll give you 429 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,880 a discount on this platform. 430 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,519 Speaker 1: So I don't get dinged for sending people to another platform. 431 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm very cautious about how I do it. I know 432 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 what to do, I know how to do it. But 433 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,839 I'm also not asking them to break their lease with 434 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,880 my main platform, because that's where I answer actual messages myself. 435 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,279 It's a matter of knowing what is someone's budget to 436 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:40,880 spend on you monthly, and how many of your platforms 437 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,079 can you have them working off. 438 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: Right, and how many people seem happy with that kind 439 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,079 of dichotomy. 440 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: So far, everybody's loved it, you know. And I have 441 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,559 a couple of fans that'll come back and all being 442 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:52,079 the messages. I do it alive, ask me anything once 443 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,960 a week on my of and like, so I was 444 00:19:54,039 --> 00:19:56,240 chatting with your digital twin, I'm like, how to go. Well, 445 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:57,799 I won't tell you all the things I talked to 446 00:19:57,799 --> 00:20:00,160 her about because I know that you'll block me. It 447 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,799 was great, and I'm like, good as long as it's 448 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,039 between you and her, and just keep it going that way. 449 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,559 I'm just trying to express to my fans like I 450 00:20:06,599 --> 00:20:09,440 lived an incredible thirty five year career and I just 451 00:20:09,519 --> 00:20:11,680 want to have new conversations now, and everybody should have 452 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:15,920 a right to have new conversations. I would say seventy 453 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,039 percent of my of base is sports fans, and we 454 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,920 talk like I'll sit on my I'll be uploading content 455 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,000 for the week during games and I'll be back and 456 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,200 forth in the messages over I have every fans favorite 457 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,160 team listed on their notes, if they play fantasy football, 458 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,599 if there are sports better like all the things, so 459 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,319 I know if the Packers get in and get a 460 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,680 hit up Chris and be like, my gosh, I was 461 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,279 a great touchdown. How'd you love it? And I know 462 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:39,960 we're all watching the same games. So I've found a 463 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,920 way to make it a vehicle for who I am 464 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,160 now and then on my wall they could enjoy who 465 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:44,519 I was. 466 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: It's nice to have that one thing to like definitely 467 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,559 bond over, yeah with other people. Yep, yeah, So I 468 00:20:50,599 --> 00:20:52,960 mean AI obviously is like become a big part of 469 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:53,559 our lives. 470 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: Like it's not going anywhere, It's. 471 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: Not going anywhere. It's a great tool. 472 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: I use it myself as really helped me be able 473 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,599 to complete a lot of. 474 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:05,319 Speaker 1: Tasks that I went to the otherwise do Like there's 475 00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:05,839 just no way. 476 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,759 Speaker 3: There's still a lot of creators that feel very strongly 477 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:11,519 that AI is like the end of our industry. 478 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:12,759 Speaker 1: What would you say to people like. 479 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: That, I would say, I remember this from the Internet 480 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,119 Internet end. I remember the Internet and the tube sites 481 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,160 being the end of the industry. I remember companies who 482 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,240 I bought my scenes back from because they were leaving 483 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:26,720 the industry and they were either going to go into 484 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:29,440 the toy business or they were like the Internet everything's 485 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,039 going to be still, Like why don't you give it 486 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:33,279 a year? What don't you see? So the same fear 487 00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:36,279 that we're seeing with AI is very similar to me 488 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,079 is what we saw with the Internet. Remember I was 489 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,880 raised by a father who still to this day does 490 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,319 not trust an ATM machine. Okay, he will walk into 491 00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:51,440 the bank. Well, walk into the bank. They limit how 492 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:53,319 much you can take out now, so they'll want to 493 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,240 send you outside to use it. And he's like, I 494 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,960 don't trust it, you know. So I've been in the 495 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,839 world of people not trusting technology. But I think the 496 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,039 creators need to understand this is an opportunity. The one 497 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:07,039 thing that will never be replaced is you, and you 498 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,319 need to get out and do live events. You'll be 499 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,400 more well known than ever because of the Internet, because 500 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,799 of AI, because of all these things, but no one 501 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:17,680 will ever replace the intimacy of a real scene, the 502 00:22:17,759 --> 00:22:21,000 way the skin gets moister, as the sweat starts to build, 503 00:22:21,079 --> 00:22:23,599 the veins start to come out. All of the things 504 00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:27,000 that happen during a real sex scene will never be 505 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,880 replaced by AI. There's no way the tech can that 506 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,119 get that good. So I believe that the scenes will 507 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,920 always be valuable. But I think this is a great 508 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,160 time for everyone to check themselves. Don't show up and 509 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,799 set with shoddy nails, you know, don't do your best 510 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:44,799 works that you're always able to be hired, because there 511 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:46,920 will be less need for as many performers. 512 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are really mostly afraid 513 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:53,480 of being completely replaced by fake AI models. And there 514 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:58,039 are some platforms that actually welcome fake AI models and 515 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,640 sell them as you know companions. 516 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: Oh there's a ton of men that are running these 517 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,759 fake II platforms. Yeah. 518 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 3: And also like I've even had ads that pop up 519 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,680 on my Instagram saying like run an agency. Yeah, powered 520 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,000 only by AI girls. Like they won't talk back to you, 521 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,319 they you know, won't. They don't need to be paid, 522 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,039 and they'll do all the scenes that you want. 523 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: One thing I advise for everyone is get your AI trademark. 524 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:23,559 You know, that was really the holdout with this SAG 525 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:26,200 strike during the pandemic, and it was very important me 526 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:28,000 being a member of SAG, I was able to be 527 00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:32,599 well informed that putting that dot ai after your trademark, 528 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,160 the realleasa and dot ai is so valuable because now 529 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,799 that I have that AI trademark, I'm actually leasing my 530 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,759 AI likeness to O chat ai. If I want to 531 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:44,240 pull it back, I own the trademark. I also now 532 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:46,559 with that trademark, have an attorney that can go out 533 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:50,319 and see who's using my likeness for other AI products, 534 00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:52,039 then I can go to them. It's either a C 535 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,680 search assist or you pay me daily. It's about being 536 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,960 ahead of it and owning your AI trademarks before other 537 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,440 people do. This is like the domain Chaine. When the 538 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,920 Internet started, there were people that were smart and they 539 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,240 went out and bought like Lexus dot com and Toyota 540 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:08,200 dot com, and back then there weren't squatter laws yet, 541 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,279 so these companies had to go and give these people 542 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,400 hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the domain they 543 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,720 want it right, So be proactive in understanding this space. 544 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:18,920 Even if you don't want to have an AI likeness 545 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,240 of yourself, get your AI trademark and protect your brand 546 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:22,720 in your likeness. 547 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,599 Speaker 1: I didn't actually know that that existed. Yep. That's amazing. 548 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: Yep. I've had mine for three years now. Yeah, all 549 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,799 of my names and likeness has a dot AI. 550 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,039 Speaker 3: It's crazy too because I still I mean, I remember 551 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,920 seeing this like maybe a year ago and being shocked, 552 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,279 and I thought that most companies pull back from it. 553 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:39,880 But I've seen some recent posts where you know, some 554 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,799 studios are sneaking like the AI clause into the model 555 00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:46,920 releases saying, oh, and by the way, you are granting 556 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,519 us to use your likeness for AI imperpetuity. We can 557 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:52,799 do whatever you want with your likeness. And like if 558 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,400 you're not reading your contracts, which let's be honest, like 559 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,599 most people aren't. 560 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: Well sure, And also if you've worked with the same 561 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,079 company for ten years, you don't realize half a page longer. 562 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,880 You don't even think about it. You trust them, You've 563 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,720 built a relationship with them. You know. That's the downside 564 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,440 of any business is taking advantage of those who are 565 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,680 not able to have the time to find toothcomb. But now, 566 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,480 whenever you get a contract, cut and paste it and 567 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,599 put it into AI and tell me my top five 568 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,960 concerns and my top five bonuses with this deal and 569 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000 where and it will. 570 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: Come up with AI. 571 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: I had to like filter out the AI clah that 572 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:26,160 you don't want to sign. 573 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,039 Speaker 2: Every deal I sign. Now I put it through and 574 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:30,319 I'll get my ten leeks. Where is it the worst 575 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:31,440 for me? Ye? 576 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I use it for that too. It's super helpful. 577 00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: Your core fan base has been with you across multiple 578 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:39,519 completely different careers. 579 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: That kind of loyalty is unusual. What do you think 580 00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:43,920 you've given them that keeps them. 581 00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:47,319 Speaker 2: Showing up consistency. You know, I haven't changed my look 582 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,240 on them. You know, the guys that love brunettes. I 583 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,519 didn't walk in one day as a blonde. I kept 584 00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:55,039 my weight kind of the same. I didn't do tattoos 585 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:57,480 or things that change, and so I kept what they 586 00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:00,640 fell in love with in the beginning. Although I've aged, 587 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,759 and you know, every day I get this, you're looking old, 588 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,200 And I say, well, obviously, I feel fine. I'm not 589 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,880 worried about it. I feel like I look fine. I'm 590 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,319 not worried about it. But at the same time, the 591 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,359 funny thing is, I say, aging is a gift that 592 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,000 I hope everyone receives, And yes, you are going to 593 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,680 look different your face, you are going to look different, 594 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,200 It's obvious. But knowing that and being able to say 595 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480 this is just inevitable. My fans that have been my 596 00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:27,759 fans forever like me at every stage. You know, I've 597 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,599 had multiple different size boobs through my career. So we've 598 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:32,839 done a digital twin with the big, big big boobs 599 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,599 and then the next size boobs. Because some guys are 600 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:38,119 like I liked you with bangs and the biggest boobs 601 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,319 you had You're Thicker era. I'm like, okay, great, we'll 602 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,359 do a twin for that era. You know, it just 603 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,200 you kind of transfer your looks. But I think it's 604 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,960 the consistency I've given them. I think it's that I've 605 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,400 never gone dark. You know, I've never just been mi 606 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359 I A. I always respond to messages. I stay kind 607 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,079 of on the pulse of what's going on in the world. 608 00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:58,839 I make conversation. I do lives every week, no matter 609 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,279 what I do in Instagram Live or Facebook livee every week. 610 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,640 So I'm always trying to give them the access to 611 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,720 have some communication with me in real time and just 612 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:07,799 share life stories. 613 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:11,599 Speaker 3: Speaking of boobs, yes, you took yours out. I can 614 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,240 you tell us what led you to that decision. 615 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: Let's give you a side view, because I think the 616 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,960 side view is always the most shocking to everybody. Well, 617 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,119 I my initial goal was by fifty five be back 618 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,519 in my natural body, just for health reasons. To know 619 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,160 that when you're getting implants, you should be prepared to 620 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,559 be removing them every ten years. The warranty ends in 621 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,839 ten years, so you really want to take them out 622 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,799 and put a new second. 623 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: That scares me. About getting implants, and. 624 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,079 Speaker 2: I think now doctors are more afraid to tell people 625 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,799 this because they're worried about the spend on the other end, 626 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,640 because when you get them in it's one fee, but 627 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,720 then each time after that, it's getting them removed and 628 00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:46,480 put back in. I remember, though, it's more, oh, it's 629 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,720 My first move job was twenty five hundred. My last 630 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:53,279 boob job was thirty five thousand. Wow, and then this 631 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,079 was overall close to fifty To have full reconstructive surgery 632 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,640 and have them completely removed, I just knew that I 633 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,640 wouldn't want to go into another elective surgery in my 634 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,680 sixties or seventies. I'd like to save that for a 635 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,640 facelift when I need it, Like you know, you're gonna 636 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,880 do some plastic surgery. Not afraid to admit this. And 637 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,640 also I started getting really into yoga and I'm not 638 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:16,000 shooting and I'm not doing appearances that I just realized, 639 00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:18,680 like it's time, and I'm so glad I did it. It 640 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,079 was March twenty twenty five. I did it quietly. I 641 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,480 didn't tell anybody I was doing it. My doctor. I 642 00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,039 go to my same doctor in Fashion Island, so I 643 00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:28,720 stayed down there at the beach like it was like 644 00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:33,279 a whole resort thing I had aftercare. It's been amazing 645 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:34,920 to see how different you feel when you don't have 646 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,240 a foreign object in your body, because your body is 647 00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:41,119 constantly working to protect your body from foreign objects. So 648 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,640 my energy level increased by like forty percent. My sleep, 649 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,240 I have never been a good sleeper. Now I am 650 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,680 such a good sleeper. I sleeped so sound. I wake 651 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,079 up feeling so good. I have no neck, arms, shoulder weirdness. 652 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:56,160 Because you can't lay on your stomach, you can't do things, 653 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,400 and I just feel great. I'm glad I did it. 654 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,400 It was not easy thing to talk about, and I 655 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680 waited till this year to put up the one year 656 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,440 anniversary post on my Instagram sharing with people. I did 657 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,799 this because I can fake people out, Like if they 658 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,200 don't really notice how I carry myself, I could fake 659 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,880 people out. And of course there's a lot of comments 660 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,279 that I get daily, talking about in a positive and 661 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:21,440 a negative way. But my health is what's important, and 662 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,240 the fact that I didn't want to have a foreign 663 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,880 object in my body anymore was just I just couldn't 664 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,359 wait till fifty five. I was like all right, I'm 665 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:28,880 gonna do it early, and I feel great. I'm so 666 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,599 glad I did it. 667 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,559 Speaker 1: What are some other things that you've done to like 668 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,960 maintain your looks and just like your ability to move 669 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,319 through life. It seems like the same as you did 670 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,359 twenty years ago. 671 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,079 Speaker 3: I mean, you are one thing I have to say 672 00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,839 that I really admire about you and. 673 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: Maybe cry or I'll get made fun of. 674 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: You know, I've always felt like if anyone was going 675 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,839 to write like a handbook on how to manage the 676 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,279 adult industry or just to navigate through life, would be you, because, 677 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,519 like you know, I still remember, it's so funny every 678 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,920 time I stay in a hotel room, I still remember 679 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,440 how you said that you always put your room key 680 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,599 on top of the TV. 681 00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: Yep, and now there's no top, so you have to 682 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,000 put in front of it. I know, I know, because 683 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,960 they're all spot every time. Yeah. 684 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,079 Speaker 1: Also that you're never like scrambling for your room. 685 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: Spots since I first went in my first. 686 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: Time hotel room. I think that because you have, like 687 00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:23,079 it's a silly. 688 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,119 Speaker 3: Small thing, but you have all these really great basically 689 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,759 like life hacks, right, Like you're full of life hacks, 690 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,640 and I I just don't know, like how you managed 691 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,559 to be so just have your shit together. 692 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think it started being on the road alone 693 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,920 and reading a lot, and learning that if you turn 694 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,839 things into a habit, then they no longer take blood sugar, 695 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,440 they no longer tax you to think about doing them. 696 00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:51,720 So getting into the hotel and knowing my keys going 697 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:53,759 right there, it's not even a thought anymore. It's just 698 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:57,039 a habit. And so I learned those things from studying 699 00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,720 the world alone on the road. This was before the internet, 700 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,000 so you're reading books. I was going into conference rooms 701 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,359 for people talking. I remember sneaking into a Tony Robbins 702 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,039 like a holiday in and like ninety five, you know, 703 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,799 like just I'd see the little board that had the letters, 704 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:13,720 Oh think I'll go get that show today and get 705 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400 this still that free book, you know. But it's about 706 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,880 it's about really thinking how can I make my life 707 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,759 the easiest. And I'm one of the fortunate people that 708 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,880 loves the gym. I know a lot of people don't 709 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,440 love the gym. 710 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: I do not. 711 00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,519 Speaker 2: I know that I have most of my friends don't 712 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:29,839 love I love it. On my days off, I'm like 713 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,519 two hours I want it so that the gym. 714 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: What is it thing you love about the gym. 715 00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:36,119 Speaker 2: I love how I feel after a great work. 716 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,279 Speaker 3: I do too, but the time during the time, so 717 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,160 two hours before you get to the apple. 718 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: I love it for my mental health because it's the 719 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400 one time of the day I listen to music. I 720 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,359 don't listen to music often because I'm always listening to 721 00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:51,039 sports news. So one time the day I listen to music. 722 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,319 I take a different phone that doesn't have my messages 723 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,039 or my emails, so I'm not distracted by people. And 724 00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,759 it's something that's purely for me. And so I'm like, 725 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,160 this is my adult rec this is what I get 726 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,200 to do before a long day of work or at 727 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,599 the end of a long day of work. This is 728 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880 something I'm doing. Doesn't make me money, doesn't matter to 729 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400 anybody but me. So it's like this selfish thing where 730 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400 it's like, this is my my thing. But it's also 731 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:17,519 helped me with aging and I sauna, I do cryotherapy, 732 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,359 I do be twelve injections. You know. I do as 733 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,920 many healthy modalities as I can. I'm addicted to the 734 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,559 hyperbaric chamber, Like I love going in the oxygen chamber, 735 00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:28,240 Like there is not a better feeling than that. I 736 00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:30,759 understand why Justin Bieber sleeps in one, like I get it. 737 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Puzzy. 738 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hyperbaric chowers are awesome, especially after a surgery. 739 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:37,559 I mean, it takes your scars away. I did ten 740 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,799 days straight after my implant movie. 741 00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,319 Speaker 1: I did, okay, So I'll let Masha tell you this story. 742 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:44,519 Speaker 3: At some point after I got my bb all, I 743 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,799 did hyperbaric chamber and I was so high on valume 744 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,720 and I had to pee and I couldn't get out, 745 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,279 and I totally like pissed myself the night. 746 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: Do you have to lay on your stomach y? 747 00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: No? 748 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,599 Speaker 3: No, I had to like lay on my back and 749 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,440 they like put me the wedges up so my butt 750 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:58,960 didn't touch it. 751 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:00,799 Speaker 2: And did you have the long last ones where you 752 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,279 slide in or was it a bag zip around one? 753 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: No, it was a long glass you slide in. 754 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: But they give you like the little like container to 755 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,160 pee in. But like I'm like on my back, I 756 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160 can barely move, like I couldn't get it in there, 757 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,640 and I'm drinking a lot of water because I'm dehydrated 758 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,759 from all the fucking pain bills I'm on. And then 759 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:19,839 I had to like sit in like my cold peef, 760 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,000 like forty five minutes because they it takes them like what, 761 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,359 I don't know, fifteen ten minutes to compressed. 762 00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:29,319 Speaker 2: You can't ide your head. It's like diving. 763 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:30,039 Speaker 1: You can't do it. 764 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: Amazing. 765 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,519 Speaker 1: And then I just came out and then Magra just 766 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,960 looked at me. She's like, did you piss yourself there? 767 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,880 I'm like, yes, I love that. 768 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,759 Speaker 3: The girls running the place were just like I love 769 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:41,279 that I brought them a Starbucks gift card. 770 00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:44,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's all It's all about the combination of 771 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,039 things that I've done. Yeah, and I but I again 772 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,599 I preface this with not everybody loves a gym. I'm 773 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,720 very lucky to have that trade. 774 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 775 00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk a little bit about some sports 776 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,440 moments for you. Okay, you have a nixed ticket giveaway story. 777 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: Please I do. My friend Brandy shout out. So a 778 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,159 couple of years ago, I was doing promotions for ticket 779 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,159 rev and Jason Shatsky, the owner of the company, came 780 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:12,679 to me and he said, Hey, We're going to do 781 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,079 a Knicks ticket giveaway. You'll go to the game with 782 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,519 the bird. Oh this is awesome, right up my alley. Right, So, 783 00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:19,599 we're going to run a contest. I'm promoting it. So 784 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,599 of course he's giving me all the list of the 785 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,920 Instagram accounts that have put in for these tickets, and 786 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,840 when I go to check them on my Instagram, they're 787 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,920 all blocked. So I'm like, well, I can't obviously take 788 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,760 somebody that I already blocked. Obviously this person's a total 789 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,599 fucking creeper. And then all of a sudden, this woman 790 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:39,400 pops up, Brandy. She a lawyer. I'm like, ding ding ding, 791 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,519 taking Brandy. Brandy had no idea who I was. At 792 00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:46,360 first she thought she won both tickets, and then I 793 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,559 had explained where, no, I go with you. So she 794 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:50,719 goes and she tells her friends that are married her 795 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,400 sister or sister's husband. The women knew nothing about me. 796 00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,000 All the men were like, no way, you go into 797 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,880 a game with Lisa, and like, this is amazing. So 798 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,039 we had dinner beforehand, and she told me that she 799 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:02,920 had no idea who I was, and then she was 800 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,039 intrigued about my life. I was intrigued about hers, and 801 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,840 we've been friends ever since. It's been probably three years now. 802 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,039 But it was just so funny that she's just die 803 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:14,119 hard sports fan, so like her and I will be 804 00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:16,000 texting all night tonight. So it was a next game 805 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,800 and we'll both be watching and we'll both be texting. 806 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,239 But it was a neat experience and it was a 807 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,559 cool way to make a new friend. 808 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,559 Speaker 1: Was it kind of. 809 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,639 Speaker 3: Like a nice moment to meet somebody who didn't know 810 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,639 who you were and then they like find out who 811 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,239 you were and maybe have some pre conceived notions about 812 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,760 you and then go out to dinner with you and 813 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:41,599 discover that you're not who like society says you should be. 814 00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: And you know, Brandy is, I want to say a 815 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,559 little bit under thirty. And I think the younger generation, 816 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,119 I think her generation was raised so beautifully that they're 817 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:54,400 just not as judgmental. They want to meet you first. 818 00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,519 No matter what you do for a living, They're not 819 00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:59,920 going to put a label on you until they meet you. 820 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,639 So she was like, Yeah, when I found out what 821 00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,039 you did, I didn't think anything of it. It's not 822 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,920 something I would ever know you for. But my guy 823 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,800 friends were like, she was so popular, da da, and 824 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:11,559 she just treated me like a human. So yeah, it's 825 00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:13,559 always nice to have that kind of an experience. 826 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's next? For Lisa Anne. 827 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 3: I mean, what's the rest of this year consisting of 828 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,320 finishing the book, doing live tours? Is there anything else 829 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,719 on the horizon that we should know about. 830 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: I would like to do a lot less. The goal 831 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,239 right now is do less of everything. I am living 832 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,360 my softest life. I am living my quietest life. Like 833 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,079 I call this my silent era. You know, when people 834 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,079 are like, where's your podcast? You don't do it anymore? 835 00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,079 Why aren't you un serious anymore? I'm like, I'm sorry, 836 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,079 I'm in my silent era right now, not adding to 837 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,840 the vortex as much, but really just continuing to write. 838 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,639 I would like to write a series of guide books 839 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,480 after I released this book of different things from the 840 00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:54,199 industry to taking care of yourself, just simple even guides 841 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,320 for creators coming into the space, how to really monetize 842 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,079 forever on content. Me, I owned so much of my 843 00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:03,639 own content, and when I meet other people that are like, 844 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000 I didn't create any of my own content, or I 845 00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:07,840 shot it and I didn't organize it. I didn't save it, 846 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,679 I didn't put a hard drive, I don't know where 847 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,119 it is. So really about that organization, because porn is 848 00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:17,639 not time sensitive. I'm going to keep repurposing these scenes forever, forever. 849 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000 So that's really what's next, and just enjoying life at 850 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,079 a different pace. And that's been the mission for the 851 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,599 past two years, is to just find that base. You know, 852 00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:30,599 I'm fifty four. Now you start to really think about retirement. 853 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,519 It's not that I don't want to do anything, but 854 00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:36,159 I'd like to do less things that I'd like to 855 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,119 be able to help more people. I'd like to volunteer 856 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,519 at a nursing home. I'd like to do things and 857 00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,119 work with the elderly as much as possible. There's just 858 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,639 things I want to do that aren't front facing, and 859 00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:49,280 now I can finally see them. And I also have 860 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,159 quite a few friends that have already retired in the 861 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,239 past couple of years and watching their facebooks, like I'm 862 00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:59,039 living through every wildflower park in the world. They're going 863 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:03,800 to travel and hiking and just just living. Yeah, you know, 864 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,119 it just looks so exciting. 865 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely. Ever since I had kids, the. 866 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 3: Way that I saw the world kind of changed and 867 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,719 I would also like to do less. 868 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm not doing a very good job of that, but. 869 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: Not right now. That is my ultimate You have time, 870 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,519 You're way younger than me. But it's something to plan for, 871 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,840 like it's something to look forward to, spending more time 872 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,599 with your friends, just spending more time at home, cooking 873 00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:27,880 your meal, doing all those things. 874 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: Well, Lisa, thank you so much for coming on. 875 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:30,599 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. 876 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,559 Speaker 3: Do you have a bunch of Patreon questions which we 877 00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:36,960 are doing a separate segment for my Patreon members only, 878 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:39,159 that's you buy I know, right? 879 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: Can you give everyone a little. 880 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,119 Speaker 2: So all of my social media is the same, it's 881 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:49,280 at the real Lisa Anne. Please don't fall for imposters. 882 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,920 There's so many scammers out there, and whether it's me 883 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,960 or someone else, stop giving strangers money on the internet. 884 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,880 Stop doing it, stop doing it, stop getting scammed. Stop 885 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,840 falling for the fact that you think I'm dming you 886 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,320 for three hours a day because I don't DM, but 887 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,400 I do run my only fans at the release An 888 00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:07,559 and I also have a mainstream platform I'm really proud 889 00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:10,480 of called subs. It's also the release and and I 890 00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:12,400 host one on one video calls and it's been a 891 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,239 great way for me to meet up with my fans 892 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,519 from I met in Australia and in Finland and people 893 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:20,199 from all over the world that have already met me 894 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,639 in person. We now get to touch base once a 895 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:24,280 month and I get to see where their life is. 896 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,960 So I'm loving all of the relationships that I built 897 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,280 throughout my career. So everyone could just find me at 898 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,559 the release aand please be nice. If you want to 899 00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:36,199 be mean, I understand we're living in a rage bait era, 900 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,760 but please don't. It's awful. 901 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 3: Please stop absolutely, and you guys can find me at 902 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,719 Holly Randall on Instagram and on Twitter. Go to hollylinks 903 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,760 dot com for access to all of my platforms. Thank 904 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,760 you again, strip Chat so much for sponsoring this podcast 905 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,400 and making these episodes possible. 906 00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: If you are. 907 00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,639 Speaker 3: Interested in joining the platform, look them up online, or 908 00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,039 you can follow them on YouTube and on Instagram at 909 00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:06,199 scworld dot Official. Thank you guys, I'll see you on 910 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:24,480 the next one.