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Speaker 3: Now today joining me, I am going to get right
Speaker 3: to our guests. I'm delighted to have him back. He
Speaker 3: joined us just about a week and a half ago.
Speaker 3: His name is Vic Rowie. He is running for state
Speaker 3: Senate in Florida, and he's actually running for Joe Ruter's seat.
Speaker 3: Joe Ruters' is termamented out. I can tell you why
Speaker 3: term liaments are not a good idea, why it does
Speaker 3: nothing but shuffle long term politicians to different positions. But
Speaker 3: it also doesn't solve any of our issues. But I'm
Speaker 3: not going to talk about that today. Joe stepped forward
Speaker 3: to the r chair at the RNC. We're delighted to
Speaker 3: have him there, and so we would be thrilled to
Speaker 3: see someone with the same convictions as Vic Rowe he
Speaker 3: running in the seat. Now he does have a primary competitor,
Speaker 3: and I don't get involved in primary racist So if
Speaker 3: that competitor wants to come on this show answer some
Speaker 3: tough questions us, welcome to do. So Vic's been through
Speaker 3: my drill, so all right, let me welcome Vic, Vic.
Speaker 3: And I don't even know if I'm saying your last
Speaker 3: name correctly. It's our o h E tell us how
Speaker 3: to pronounce your last name and welcome to the Timir's
Speaker 3: scot Show character. So I am saying it okay, Rowie, okay,
Speaker 3: very good. And so you're running in Senate district? What
Speaker 3: is the number two? And tell our viewers you were
Speaker 3: elected county wide to serve on I think you still
Speaker 3: have a hospital board in that county.
Speaker 5: That's correct, We're.
Speaker 6: The only county.
Speaker 3: And so part of the thing reason you ran, I
Speaker 3: think for that was medical freedom. As the rest of
Speaker 3: us were dealing with a pandemic scandemic, you were talking
Speaker 3: about medical freedom. And so you've served the people there,
Speaker 3: and now you're offering to serve in the Senate seat
Speaker 3: what Senate district again?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 3: Very good, yep. I'm just trying to make sure our
Speaker 3: viewers get it to sen it seat twenty two. All right,
Speaker 3: all of Sarona.
Speaker 5: County, County South State seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, very good. All right. So last time we talked
Speaker 3: about a variety of issues. Let the viewers get to
Speaker 3: know who you are. But since that time, you also
Speaker 3: were giving an instructional call to some legislators. I happened
Speaker 3: to be on the call and you came across a
Speaker 3: bill that was very concerning. Now you're not even a
Speaker 3: state senator yet and you are still seeing this type
Speaker 3: of information and alerning those who are in office. Should
Speaker 3: we just go ahead and start right into this bill.
Speaker 3: I have the link we can pull up if you
Speaker 3: would like. Yes, all right, So Thomas, you should have
Speaker 3: a link that I sent you. Can you go ahead
Speaker 3: and pull that up. Oh you're so good. All right,
Speaker 3: let's go to the text. I think on there it
Speaker 3: says there's a tech next of the bill. Let's see.
Speaker 3: I thought I had just the text. The link of
Speaker 3: the text pulled up. So, uh, let me see if
Speaker 3: I can help you guide through there, Thomas, there, there
Speaker 3: you go build text. I think that should be a
Speaker 3: good job. And let's see if it's coming up. Can
Speaker 3: you click it again? See if that's coming up? There
Speaker 3: we go. Now, I don't know if you can zoom
Speaker 3: that up a little bit for our audience to zoom
Speaker 3: in on the give us the overall? What was this
Speaker 3: bill supposed to be about the overall? Right?
Speaker 5: And was sold for the public? Date who I count
Speaker 5: for incuboment counter the.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: But it actually was that important the public when you know,
Speaker 6: is nothing about it.
Speaker 3: It was in could.
Speaker 6: In the legislature. I wanted to Representative of the House
Speaker 6: can coach additionally, and.
Speaker 5: We took a look at them. We took a look at.
Speaker 7: It was very interesting. They didn't seem to be a
Speaker 7: common thread and we haven't had time to delve into
Speaker 7: the their contributions yet. But when you look at the bill,
Speaker 7: the bill is definitely against the interests of the people.
Speaker 7: It seems to be clearly unconstitutional under the US Constitution.
Speaker 7: And basically I would refer to this as the Great Reset.
Speaker 5: Thought Police Bill.
Speaker 7: Yes, right, because it's the purpose of it is to
Speaker 7: basically to police your opinions and you and your your
Speaker 7: views and to make arrests. I mean, it's it's right
Speaker 7: out of nineteen eighty four. So when I first read
Speaker 7: the bill, I couldn't believe what I was reading it.
Speaker 7: It was so I just said, am I reading this correctly?
Speaker 7: How to reread it?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 7: I don't know if you can, if you can bring
Speaker 7: the bill up on the screen for your readers or not.
Speaker 3: It is I don't know if you can see it
Speaker 3: or not, Vic, but it is on the bill. So
Speaker 3: let's go ahead, Okay, Thomas, We're going to go to
Speaker 3: I think we'll probably start. You want to start the
Speaker 3: first page of the second page, Vic.
Speaker 5: I'd like to go to the second page.
Speaker 7: Where it defines an adverse an adversary intelligence entity, which
Speaker 7: is line thirty eight.
Speaker 3: So if you can zoom it online. Oh very good.
Speaker 3: He's even highlighting it for our viewers. Thank you so much, Thomas, great.
Speaker 7: So if you read line thirty eight, it basically defines
Speaker 7: an adversary intelligence agency and it says it includes but
Speaker 7: is not limited to any and then there's a whole
Speaker 7: list of kind of somewhat scary things except for one
Speaker 7: thing that I actually picked up this morning. Not limited
Speaker 7: to any national, foreign, international, or friendly. So just just
Speaker 7: remember that word friendly, competitor, opponent, adversary, recognized enemy, government
Speaker 7: or non governmental organization, company, business, corporation, consortium, group, agencies, sell, terrorist, insurgent,
Speaker 7: guerrilla entity, or which means you can you could actually
Speaker 7: almost for the for a moment, you could just ignore
Speaker 7: all that or a person, So an intelligence they're defining
Speaker 7: an adversary sab an adversary intelligence agency as a person.
Speaker 7: And then it says whose demonstrated actions, views, or opinions,
Speaker 7: so you've used in opinions, are a threat or are
Speaker 7: in a minimum in a mimical which actually means just
Speaker 7: means unfriendly to the interest of this state in the
Speaker 7: United States of America. So basically it says, any person
Speaker 7: who doesn't like Florida, they're unfriendly to Florida. They're an
Speaker 7: adverse they're an adverse intelligence entity. But then when I'm
Speaker 7: going to go back to that word friendly again because.
Speaker 5: In a mimical means unfriendly.
Speaker 7: So but they're defining an intelligence and entity to include friendlies,
Speaker 7: So how can a friendly be unfriendly? Basically it's a
Speaker 7: contradiction if you read it, it's actually a contradiction. When
Speaker 7: you see friendly in line forty and you see in
Speaker 7: a midical in.
Speaker 5: Line forty five, that's a contradiction.
Speaker 7: So basically what they're doing is they're saying any entity,
Speaker 7: whatever right, they're saying any entity is is basically can
Speaker 7: be defined as an adversary intelligence entity.
Speaker 3: So to our viewers, we are looking at House Bill
Speaker 3: nine four or five. This is Florida House Bill nine
Speaker 3: four or five, and it was it was submitted in
Speaker 3: the twoenty twenty sixth session, thankful, and there's a companion
Speaker 3: bill in SB in the Senate SB seventeen twelve. Equally
Speaker 3: is alarming. I think Vicky said, the language is pretty
Speaker 3: much word for word the same.
Speaker 5: Correct it is.
Speaker 3: All right, that's pretty alarming because when that happens in
Speaker 3: other states states that I'm familiar with, means they're going
Speaker 3: to try and push it through quickly, sometimes before anybody
Speaker 3: notices something like VIC noticed. So I don't know how
Speaker 3: you caught this, Vic, but and.
Speaker 7: That's exactly what happened, and what the reason I caught
Speaker 7: it was. We were looking at the legislation that my
Speaker 7: opponent voted for, and most of the bad things you
Speaker 7: voted for had to do with transferring power from the
Speaker 7: local communities up to either the executive branch in Tallahassee
Speaker 7: or the billionaire developers that can that have a large
Speaker 7: control of the Tallahassee right along with some other large entities.
Speaker 7: And so I started reading this bill. And when I
Speaker 7: the more I read the bill, and more I said,
Speaker 7: I can't believe what I'm reading.
Speaker 5: And then so to just go a little further in
Speaker 5: the bill, it took.
Speaker 3: To go further before I want to come back to
Speaker 3: this before we go further. So, Thomas, if you can
Speaker 3: go back to page two, lines thirty eight through forty four,
Speaker 3: and for those of you taking notes, you can go
Speaker 3: ahead and write down. We'll give you page number and
Speaker 3: the lines. You can look it up. You cant us
Speaker 3: do a search Florida HB nine four or five and
Speaker 3: you can put twenty twenty six, give us space and
Speaker 3: then put twenty twenty six so now we'll get you
Speaker 3: to this bill, same website you saw Thomas go on
Speaker 3: and he clicked on text of the bill, right, so
Speaker 3: I want to read this again. Used in this section,
Speaker 3: the term adversary intelligence entity includes, but is not limited to,
Speaker 3: any national, foreign, multinational, friendly, competitor, opponents, adversary, or recognized enemy,
Speaker 3: government or non governmental organization, company, business, corporation, consortium, group, agency,
Speaker 3: sell terrorist, insurgent, guerrilla entity, or person who demonstrated actions
Speaker 3: US and opinions are a threat or end mimical to
Speaker 3: the interest of this state in the United States. Man,
Speaker 3: that is wide open. That is just because they say
Speaker 3: not limited to So it is just wide open with
Speaker 3: the intent of the bill. And I mean competitor. How
Speaker 3: many countries, how many states, how many people are competing
Speaker 3: against the state of Florida. I mean a governor in
Speaker 3: another state could be competing against the state of Florida.
Speaker 3: And if you're already concerned about states or countries that
Speaker 3: have said things or doing things that are not in
Speaker 3: America's best interest. The CCP and we have these data
Speaker 3: centers and these battery energy storage systems coming in with
Speaker 3: components from CCP or CCP affiliated funding so this were
Speaker 3: listen to me, bit, we don't even need bills like
Speaker 3: this if we understood our oath to the constitution period
Speaker 3: and every state elected official takes the oath to the constitution,
Speaker 3: the federal level and your state constitution. But here we
Speaker 3: are dealing with this and in their effort to maybe
Speaker 3: protect us, I think this is I think this bill
Speaker 3: is a threat, as you say, to the thought police,
Speaker 3: but to anything someone might say that someone might determine
Speaker 3: in the future as being dangerous or anti Florida.
Speaker 7: Correct, And it applies to any person. So it applies
Speaker 7: to every single person in state. And who's the determined
Speaker 7: if you if you have views and opinions are unfriendly.
Speaker 7: Well apparently apparently it's the people who are they going
Speaker 7: to assign to this unit.
Speaker 3: So we'll get into that unit where there's more in
Speaker 3: this bill. Thank heaven's Vic Rowe. He was just doing
Speaker 3: some research and came across this bill. We've got to
Speaker 3: go to our first break. When we come back, we'll
Speaker 3: go through the rest of the bill. There is more.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Vic Rowan, Senate District twenty two, Florida. Oh,
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Speaker 3: Rogy is running for Senate District twenty two. He does
Speaker 3: have a primary and so if you appreciate what he's saying,
Speaker 3: and you know friends or you live in that area
Speaker 3: of Senate District twenty two. I think you said it
Speaker 3: was around Sarasoto, you need to do what you can
Speaker 3: to help get someone who's going to be a guardian
Speaker 3: of your liberties in this seat. All right, Vic, give
Speaker 3: us a quick summary of this bill and we'll go
Speaker 3: back into page three now.
Speaker 7: Right, Okay, So quick summary is this The bill sets
Speaker 7: up a statewide police agency to pull lease the opinions
Speaker 7: and views of the people in the state of Florida. Right,
Speaker 7: it's kind of like right out of the old novel
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty four by Jeorge Orwell, right, the Thought Police.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what it is. So we're going to.
Speaker 7: Go to line fifty two on the third page of
Speaker 7: the bill where it talks about how they're going to operate.
Speaker 3: So Thomas, can you bring the bill back up for
Speaker 3: our viewers, those who are watching, they can follow along
Speaker 3: on the screen. Page three, line fifty two is where
Speaker 3: we're going to start.
Speaker 7: Right, So what it says is it's says the unit
Speaker 7: shall identify threats by analyzing patterns of life. So I'm
Speaker 7: going to stop right there for a second. And there
Speaker 7: is so it applies to everyone in the state. So
Speaker 7: they're going to analyze the patterns of life of everyone
Speaker 7: in this state, basically, right, and uh, And if you
Speaker 7: read down below, it says, it says gathering actionable intelligence
Speaker 7: and formulating effective plans and actions, and by executing arrests.
Speaker 7: It doesn't say they may execute arrests. It says basically,
Speaker 7: it says they will execute arrests.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't say anything about a trial or a
Speaker 3: jury here. And so this is a whole new statewide
Speaker 3: commission that will have the authority to execute arrests.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's what the bill says.
Speaker 7: It's a plain the English is plane and and then
Speaker 7: it says and response by using all counter intelligence and
Speaker 7: counter terrorism tradecraft. So tradecraft, that's a that's a that's
Speaker 7: a word from the intelligence agencies. Trade Craft means, you know,
Speaker 7: the type of things that you use against foreign intelligence agencies.
Speaker 5: They're going to use.
Speaker 7: Trade craft against regular American people in the state of Florida.
Speaker 3: So that would be spying without knowledge. Perhaps that's a
Speaker 3: patriot act. I believe the listening and on cell phones,
Speaker 3: et cetera.
Speaker 5: Correct. I mean, I'm not in the intelligence business.
Speaker 7: I don't know what all the applicable trade craft is,
Speaker 7: but I'm sure it's a pretty broad a toolbox.
Speaker 3: We've had former We've been individuals with former intelligence and
Speaker 3: high credentials telling us. And this was back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: I believe if you type it in, speak it over
Speaker 3: a device, or watch it, they know it. That was
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen. Fast track to today. Flock cameras recording where
Speaker 3: you go can tell what political rallies you may attend, church,
Speaker 3: where you go, medical appointments you're viewing, if you're under
Speaker 3: the store at three am for a snack, if you
Speaker 3: go on that morning run and the job. We have
Speaker 3: talentteer videos talking about prediction to behavior. We have clash
Speaker 3: Schwab saying we won't even need to do an election
Speaker 3: because we know who you're going to vote for. Think
Speaker 3: about this, my friends. So if they could now use
Speaker 3: this information that some Robert Frommer from Institute for Justice
Speaker 3: is saying illegal, it's if you needed a warrant two
Speaker 3: years ago, you should have a warrant now to get
Speaker 3: the same information. So then VIC, imagine this when you're
Speaker 3: talking about your trade craft. We're making it easy for
Speaker 3: them with flot cameras popping up all over our communities,
Speaker 3: data centers coming in against the will of the people,
Speaker 3: to gather it, collect it, catalog it, categorize it, and
Speaker 3: sell it as a commodity without our permission. We are
Speaker 3: headed for a very dangerous future here, all right, So
Speaker 3: trade craft we've.
Speaker 7: So So basically, they're going to all the intelligence information
Speaker 7: you said, and they're going to gather in addition to that,
Speaker 7: they're going to gather their own information, and then based
Speaker 7: upon that information, they're going to make a rest. All right,
Speaker 7: So when is this going to happen? Right, and then
Speaker 7: we'll talk about how it's going to happen. So when
Speaker 7: it's going to happen. If you go down to line
Speaker 7: seventy one, it says I'm going to read from sixty
Speaker 7: nine on it says each physical year request the appropriate
Speaker 7: number of positions and funding required for each position in
Speaker 7: order to be fully staffed no later than December thirtieth
Speaker 7: of twenty thirty three.
Speaker 5: So they have a deadline.
Speaker 7: They want this thing operational by the end of twenty
Speaker 7: thirty three. So when Klas Schwab talks about the Great Reset,
Speaker 7: this is the deadline for it. The deadline is December
Speaker 7: of twenty thirty three, right, And this is how they're
Speaker 7: going to implement it. So they have been having a
Speaker 7: war on free speech worldwide. The u N and the
Speaker 7: World Economic Forum have formed a partnership to get rid
Speaker 7: of free speech worldwide America. In order to do that,
Speaker 7: they have to get rid of the First Amendment, and
Speaker 7: the quickest way that they can do that is by
Speaker 7: having a new constitutional convention at Uticle five, convention of
Speaker 7: which thirty three states have already called for it and
Speaker 7: they only need thirty four.
Speaker 3: I will argue with you on those numbers a little bit,
Speaker 3: because I hear it's not that close, and I think
Speaker 3: convention of States would be proposed, would be promoting it
Speaker 3: if it were. It depends on how you look at it,
Speaker 3: on the language of it. But You're right. It is
Speaker 3: a threat. It is the biggest threat we face besides
Speaker 3: Islam and shri a law in America. I think this
Speaker 3: is the biggest threat we face to our nation because
Speaker 3: thos politicians don't understand it. I'm glad you do. Thank
Speaker 3: you very much for that.
Speaker 7: All right, Right, so I'm going to I'm going to
Speaker 7: skip ahead now for a second to line eighty one,
Speaker 7: which is on the next page. All right, So line
Speaker 7: eighty one, I just want to this is something I
Speaker 7: picked up since the last time we spent and because
Speaker 7: I was trying to I was trying to figure out
Speaker 7: we're going to talk about the federal liaison officer that
Speaker 7: they have the liaises with.
Speaker 5: Somebody, and I was trying to figure out who who
Speaker 5: is it that they're going to.
Speaker 7: Liaise with, And then I realized, if you look on
Speaker 7: line eighty one, it says a team leader who is
Speaker 7: an assistant special agent in charge now and it's just
Speaker 7: a special agent in charge.
Speaker 5: That's not a police term.
Speaker 7: Police have detectives, they have ranks, you know, they have
Speaker 7: they have inspectors, they have colonels, they have they have
Speaker 7: detective squad commanders, a special a special assistant special Agent
Speaker 7: in charge. That's an FBI term. The FBI users those
Speaker 7: type of terms are there's type of titles for their people,
Speaker 7: So it sounds highly likely. And then there's some there's
Speaker 7: some other information that with the Senate that some some
Speaker 7: are Senate Senate committees is more than we could go
Speaker 7: into right now, but some of this committee Senate committees
Speaker 7: did some digging and they mentioned in that digging they
Speaker 7: mentioned the FBI. So it looks like they're going to
Speaker 7: liaise with the FBI. It looks like that's the agency.
Speaker 5: So then if you go.
Speaker 7: Down to page i mean, line eighty seven, they're talking about, uh,
Speaker 7: they took it. They talk about setting up seven teams
Speaker 7: and each team must have certain things attached to it.
Speaker 5: One of whom they took me, I'll read the whole thing.
Speaker 7: The deputy team leader, who is a special agent supervisor
Speaker 7: to be assigned six counter intelligence agents, one of whom
Speaker 7: must be a regional federal liaison officer. So if the
Speaker 7: federal liaison officer has to liaise with somebody, and that
Speaker 7: somebody it looks like is in the FBI, it could
Speaker 7: be an and the way it's written, could be any
Speaker 7: federal agency. But it looks like the person that they're
Speaker 7: going to liaise with is going to be an is
Speaker 7: someone in the FBI.
Speaker 5: But then I looked at it further and I.
Speaker 7: Said, one who must be a regional federal liaison officer?
Speaker 5: Well why regional?
Speaker 7: Because if there aren't other types of federal liaison officers.
Speaker 5: Regional would be redundant.
Speaker 7: You could just say one who must be a federal
Speaker 7: liaison officer, But they didn't say that. They said one
Speaker 7: must be a regional federal liaison officer, which brings up
Speaker 7: two questions. Number one is who is this person employed by?
Speaker 7: Are they employed by Florida or they employed by the
Speaker 7: federal government? And the second one is uh is that
Speaker 7: if it's regional, there must be regions, and we know
Speaker 7: that they're setting up seven regions, and in all likelihood
Speaker 7: it's not in the bill, but it would seem likely
Speaker 7: that there's already a map that delineates the seven regions
Speaker 7: in Florida.
Speaker 9: So I have to say, vic with all, I tend
Speaker 9: to thinking questions, are they going to try and bypass
Speaker 9: the constitution?
Speaker 3: We've talked, We've heard about regional governments across the nation.
Speaker 3: Is this one of the ways they're going to set
Speaker 3: up regions in your states, and then you make it
Speaker 3: as far as a regional I just don't put anything
Speaker 3: past some of these votes.
Speaker 7: Right, So what you brought up when we've had that
Speaker 7: meeting with the state legislators, what's really important Because the
Speaker 7: federal government isn't just going to be liaisoning with Florida.
Speaker 7: They're going to be liaisoning with other states and maybe
Speaker 7: all states. So it's very likely that legislation similar to
Speaker 7: this is going to start popping up if it hasn't
Speaker 7: already in other states. Now I found out almost by
Speaker 7: accident that I may have actually stopped this thing from
Speaker 7: being in law already, because what happened was I had
Speaker 7: a text exchange, as I mentioned to you, with Joe Ruters,
Speaker 7: and I said to Joe basically, I said, Joe, have
Speaker 7: you seen HR ninety five? He said no. I said
Speaker 7: you need to see it. He said, well, what's in it?
Speaker 7: I said, just read it. It's for pages. So that
Speaker 7: was it, and then a week later they pulled the bill.
Speaker 7: And what I said to your last time, I didn't
Speaker 7: know if there was a connection but between those two things.
Speaker 7: So what happened was coincidentally, I ran into Joe at
Speaker 7: a meeting down in Northport, and I specifically asked them
Speaker 7: was there any connection between me sending you that text
Speaker 7: and the bill being pulled? And he looked at me
Speaker 7: and he said absolutely, absolutely, he said, and any kind
Speaker 7: kind of a little bit apologetic, He says, Look, you
Speaker 7: know you can't read every bill, and this year the
Speaker 7: were twelve hundred bills submitted, so I totally get that right. So,
Speaker 7: I mean, basically, you usually rely on the staff is
Speaker 7: to tell you, you know, you know, what do I
Speaker 7: need to know about? And so I'm sure you didn't
Speaker 7: know about it. I dah, I out about it a
Speaker 7: week later it was pulled.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your guardianship over the people
Speaker 3: of Florida and liberties constitutional protections for all of us,
Speaker 3: and for alerting Joe. I mean, there are a lot
Speaker 3: of people who'd have seen it and not moved forward.
Speaker 3: You alerted Senator Ruder is your state senator at the time,
Speaker 3: and thank you for that. And so because of that,
Speaker 3: we're now alerting to all of you, our viewers out there.
Speaker 3: I don't care what state you're in, you need to
Speaker 3: start searching to see if there is a bill that
Speaker 3: has been proposed. Hopefully it did not pass your session
Speaker 3: last year. Do you need to be watching this? I
Speaker 3: can't tell you. You know who's do you know? Well,
Speaker 3: we've got to go to our break. We'll come right back.
Speaker 3: I'll ask you who sponsored it in your state. We'll
Speaker 3: try to help you how you can watch for it.
Speaker 3: It's under the guise of counter Terrorism national Security, a
Speaker 3: bill active relating to statewide counterintelligence and counter terrorism. It
Speaker 3: just sounds so good and yet it's so not. We'll
Speaker 3: be right back. Vic Row. He is my guest today.
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Speaker 3: Vic Row, he is my guest. He is a Senate
Speaker 3: candidate for the state of Florida, a state Senate candidate
Speaker 3: District twenty to Vic, tell us again, what county? What area?
Speaker 2: That is?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 7: So that's all of Sarasota County and Manateee County south
Speaker 7: of State Route seventy.
Speaker 3: And you are running in an open seat because Senator
Speaker 3: Joe Bruders stepped up to chair the R and C.
Speaker 3: We're thankful that he did and you were able to
Speaker 3: alert him to this extremely dangerous bill that you found
Speaker 3: it because you are doing some investigative work on someone
Speaker 3: who is also running for this seat. You're not challenging
Speaker 3: an incumbent because the incumbent moved forward to the R
Speaker 3: and C and termaments put them out.
Speaker 7: He's actually was actually still in the seat until NOVEMBA.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're ready and what will be an open seat.
Speaker 3: But the other individual running for this is coming from
Speaker 3: the House, and did he vote for this, No, it
Speaker 3: got pulled. Did it get pulled in the House?
Speaker 5: It did, but he voted for it in committee.
Speaker 7: And not only that, you brought up a good point
Speaker 7: because not only did he vote for it in committee,
Speaker 7: but we pulled it down, you know, like you pull
Speaker 7: everything on the internet because you never know what it's
Speaker 7: going away. And all of a sudden it disappeared from
Speaker 7: the Senate website and it says.
Speaker 5: Roll call vote not available. So they actually pulled the
Speaker 5: roll call vote they had on there.
Speaker 7: And but we did also find some other sites that
Speaker 7: have the vault call vote up there, and.
Speaker 3: That would be for the House. Because you pulled it
Speaker 3: in the Senate.
Speaker 5: No, that was in the House.
Speaker 3: That's in the House, okay, but a lot of.
Speaker 7: A lot of the house stuff is on the Setate
Speaker 7: website for I don't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, So we made it through,
Speaker 3: I believe the whole bill. And again the bill is
Speaker 3: HB nine four or five. The Senate bill would have
Speaker 3: been a SB seventeen twelve. They are very similar in language.
Speaker 3: This is a great warning to us and vic rohe
Speaker 3: who was running for that Senate district, found it in
Speaker 3: the work that he was doing, alerted the sitting senator,
Speaker 3: who then helped pull the bill because it was extremely dangerous.
Speaker 3: Jo Gruders, there's so much in here. I mean, whether
Speaker 3: it's a law enforcement I don't know who this task
Speaker 3: force is. I don't know how they're elected, selected, appointed, anointed,
Speaker 3: maybe purchase. I have no idea.
Speaker 5: They're all going to be appointed.
Speaker 7: And it can be hide by the Florida Department of
Speaker 7: Law Enforcement.
Speaker 3: So it says that they have like three years of
Speaker 3: experience actively working in the fields of intelligence, counterintelligence or
Speaker 3: counterism counter terrorism. Okay, that's helpful.
Speaker 7: But you know that's an a point that you suld
Speaker 7: remind me of an important thing in the bill. If
Speaker 7: you read it, there's a spot in here where it
Speaker 7: talks about when it talks about the qualifications.
Speaker 5: Here it is.
Speaker 7: To look at the very end of the bill, number two,
Speaker 7: on the bottom of the fourth page. It's talking about
Speaker 7: the qualifications, and it says or have at least three
Speaker 7: years experience actively working in the fields of intelligence, counter
Speaker 7: intelligence or counter terrorism. So because of that or that
Speaker 7: sentence stands on its own. So if you read that
Speaker 7: sentence carefully, you may know something. It does not require
Speaker 7: that experience to have been within the United States.
Speaker 5: So basically they could hire.
Speaker 7: Someone who has that experience from any country in the world.
Speaker 7: They could hire Summer from China or Russia, Iran if
Speaker 7: they have three years, If they have three years of
Speaker 7: the appropriate intelligence agency experience, they could be hired for this.
Speaker 5: It doesn't even say they have to be American.
Speaker 3: I can see that being justified as well. If we're
Speaker 3: dealing with a country that is a particular threat and
Speaker 3: we could pull in an employee who has inside knowledge
Speaker 3: of their counterintelligence. Can't you see somebody saying why we
Speaker 3: should do that? Vic you just thank you, thank you
Speaker 3: for understanding the danger that is just so much well intended.
Speaker 3: Perhaps maybe not, maybe it's nefarious, We have no idea,
Speaker 3: but either way, it's dangerous to all of us who
Speaker 3: live under the Constitution and expect those protections for us
Speaker 3: and limitations on government. This totally does away with governmental
Speaker 3: limitations from.
Speaker 5: What I can understand.
Speaker 3: As you say, you'd have to really almost repeal the
Speaker 3: person Endment.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would have to repeal it. Then I would
Speaker 7: have a get a court decision to say it doesn't apply.
Speaker 7: But I don't think that would happen.
Speaker 3: It could and as I mentioned earlier, with all the
Speaker 3: flock cameras, with all the data surveillance, with all the categorizing,
Speaker 3: collecting and selling our information as a commodity without a warrant,
Speaker 3: what we call searchualist warrants, this information could be prevalent
Speaker 3: to anyone, whether they are of good standing or nefarious.
Speaker 3: We've got several law officers now arrested and charged with
Speaker 3: misusing those spot cameras because it's just such a temptation
Speaker 3: to check out a neighbor who's irritated you, to check
Speaker 3: out a love interests who's maybe not being faithful to you,
Speaker 3: And we're seeing that in police departments across the nation.
Speaker 3: And that's unfortunate because we want otherwise good officers to
Speaker 3: be in those those positions, not people who are going
Speaker 3: to use their power if they're willing to abuse it
Speaker 3: at this temptation. Imagine where something like this would be
Speaker 3: so easy to abuse. This is This is an incredibly
Speaker 3: dangerous piece of legislation.
Speaker 7: It almost gives you unlimited power. And law enforcement agencies
Speaker 7: they go by the law. So if this is the law,
Speaker 7: that's what they're going to go. So they're going to say, well,
Speaker 7: how should we operate, Well, it tells us right here
Speaker 7: how to operate.
Speaker 5: That's what we're going to do. Right.
Speaker 7: They're there for a paycheck and to get their pension, right,
Speaker 7: and they've been in the bureaucratic situations.
Speaker 5: They know how it works.
Speaker 7: Basically, when you're a bureaucrat, and I was a bureaucrat
Speaker 7: for a good three years, you're if you show up
Speaker 7: and you say yes to everything they say, you're going
Speaker 7: to get that pension. You show up on time, do
Speaker 7: you do your work, say yes to whatever they say,
Speaker 7: and pretty much that's all you need to do to
Speaker 7: make it to your pension and get get paid all
Speaker 7: the way along and get all your medical benefits and everything.
Speaker 7: So that's that's the scary thing about it. And of
Speaker 7: course when they're putting a unit like this together, they
Speaker 7: get to pick whoever they want, so they don't have
Speaker 7: to pick the best in the brightest.
Speaker 5: They can pick the most compliant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's compliant. That's usually what we see. Compliant or
Speaker 3: complicit seem to have favor a lot of times with
Speaker 3: the big money folks, the consultants, people who they call establishments,
Speaker 3: the insiders, whoever you think that may be. We the
Speaker 3: people want somebody who's going to be a guardian over
Speaker 3: our liberties. All right, we've got just a couple of
Speaker 3: minutes left in this segment, more information anything else you've
Speaker 3: leaned from this since you realized what was happening.
Speaker 5: When we come back from break, you're getting ready to
Speaker 5: go to break.
Speaker 3: We've got two minutes or three minutes. Do you want
Speaker 3: to fit something in before you want to wait?
Speaker 7: I don't know if I could. I'll wait because I
Speaker 7: don't think I can get it all in. All right,
Speaker 7: And it has to do with the way we have
Speaker 7: something in this state that are going to refer to
Speaker 7: as convey about leadership. All right, why this kind of
Speaker 7: build can move forward so easily?
Speaker 3: Perfect, Thomas, In this remaining two to and a half minutes,
Speaker 3: we have time to play that, Klaus Schwab clip, let's
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: But since the next step could be to go into
Speaker 1: prescriptive mode, which means you do not even have to
Speaker 1: have elections anymore, because you can already predict what predict,
Speaker 1: and afterwards you can say, why do we need elections
Speaker 1: because we know what the result will be.
Speaker 3: Wow, you don't even need elections because through prescriptive mode
Speaker 3: we'll be able to help you with that. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: need elections in here, it's clear. And so to vix point,
Speaker 3: unless they are going to have a constitutional convention where
Speaker 3: this is at greatest risk of being revised, revamped, rewritten,
Speaker 3: or replaced totally. And we have Kelly, Robert Kelly's staff
Speaker 3: attorney for Convention of States, on videos saying we want
Speaker 3: to undo article one, Article two, Article three, Article five.
Speaker 3: Those first three are every branch of government. That's not
Speaker 3: an amendment, friends, that's an over faull. Article five is
Speaker 3: the one that they're using and misusing to call for
Speaker 3: a convention, saying that the states call for the convention
Speaker 3: they apply, but they don't call Congress will take it
Speaker 3: over from there and call this is fraught with peril,
Speaker 3: this convention, and I thank you for trying this to
Speaker 3: the bill, Vic. And that would be the very easiest
Speaker 3: way for them to run us over, is to change
Speaker 3: it in a convention which we don't even know. Who
Speaker 3: would be the delegates who would attend, Conservatives, liberals, You
Speaker 3: know that they would all want to be involved. And
Speaker 3: at this point, why wouldn't Minnesota even say we're just
Speaker 3: going to send citizens who knows if they'd even be
Speaker 3: non citizens at this point to participate as a delegate.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back. Stay tuned, Vic, rowhee. We are
Speaker 3: opening up a can of worms and it is ugly.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned.
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Speaker 3: to be done by fifty five after all, right, my guest,
Speaker 3: vic He is running vic Rowie Rohe vicvic r He
Speaker 3: running in Senate District twenty two in Florida. Without even
Speaker 3: being in office, he's already saved the people of Florida
Speaker 3: from being overrun by an unconstantutional, authoritarian, overreaching bill in
Speaker 3: s and HB ninety four or five, which he realized
Speaker 3: the dangers because his opponent, the one who's challenging him
Speaker 3: in the primary, really supported this in committee, voting for
Speaker 3: in committee. That's a fright. So, Vick, I thank you
Speaker 3: for being on guard. And so you're going to take
Speaker 3: us through a little exercise here and help us draw
Speaker 3: maybe another conclusion.
Speaker 7: Yes, so, because we have term limits here in the
Speaker 7: state legislature in Florida, what has evolved is this convey
Speaker 7: a belt leadership system. So let me the best way
Speaker 7: I can I can describe this is, let's assume Tamara,
Speaker 7: that you on now you have just been elected to
Speaker 7: be a new state representative in the state of Florida. Right,
Speaker 7: and now I'm going to tell you how it used
Speaker 7: to work. And I'm then I'm going to tell you
Speaker 7: how it works now. So it's your first day and
Speaker 7: you're up in Tallahassee and leadership comes over to you
Speaker 7: and they say to you, listen, you're going to have
Speaker 7: to vote for one of the people in your class.
Speaker 7: And by your class they mean the people who are
Speaker 7: elected for the first time to the state legislature. Now,
Speaker 7: you came in, this is the first time you were elected,
Speaker 7: and all the people who are elected for the first
Speaker 7: time with you.
Speaker 5: You're going to have to vote.
Speaker 7: For one of those people to be the leader in
Speaker 7: six years from now, assuming that they get reelected. Right,
Speaker 7: you have to vote for the leader. Now you may
Speaker 7: not know anybody, but that's not a problem. We're going
Speaker 7: to tell you who to vote for. Now it's your vote,
Speaker 7: so you can vote for anyone you want, but we're
Speaker 7: going to tell you what happens if you don't vote
Speaker 7: for who we tell you to vote for. Basically four things.
Speaker 7: The first thing is you may find you is in
Speaker 7: the basement. The second thing is you will not get
Speaker 7: any good committee assignments. More importantly, no bill you ever
Speaker 7: submit will ever see the floor of the House. And
Speaker 7: then when it comes time for you to get re elected,
Speaker 7: the House pack maybe funding your opponent, but it's your vote.
Speaker 7: You can vote for heevy one. So what do you
Speaker 7: do now? Don't answer that at this point because that's
Speaker 7: how it.
Speaker 5: Used to work.
Speaker 7: Now how it works now is all of those things
Speaker 7: plus two, but two more things. You're not going to
Speaker 7: vote the first year for the person who's going to
Speaker 7: be the speaker in six years. You're going to vote
Speaker 7: the second year. So why is that an important difference? Well,
Speaker 7: by voting the second year, it gives the House leadership
Speaker 7: the ability to do two things. Number one is to
Speaker 7: assess how much money you raise for the pack in
Speaker 7: the first to year. And then the second one is
Speaker 7: did you ever have your audacity to vote other than
Speaker 7: is instructed?
Speaker 3: Were you malleable?
Speaker 5: If you did small game off? If you're going to
Speaker 5: be they're going to do whatever they have to do
Speaker 5: to get rid.
Speaker 7: And well I can tell you is those six items
Speaker 7: are just the beginning of it. We don't have the
Speaker 7: time to go into all the other things they can
Speaker 7: do to you for like kind of like they pay
Speaker 7: your staff people. They so your control over your staff
Speaker 7: people is limited, right.
Speaker 5: And there's more. It's very complicated.
Speaker 7: There's a million other things that they can do to
Speaker 7: make it very difficult for you to operate. But those
Speaker 7: six things are the main things. And most people, when
Speaker 7: they're confronted with that, what do you think they do?
Speaker 3: Well? I think several of them buckle. We've seen it.
Speaker 3: We've seen very few that don't buckle. The ones that
Speaker 3: and then the ones that don't buckle often don't get
Speaker 3: good committees or get their committees taken away. We had
Speaker 3: that happen in the Senate at excellent I mean very creative, thoughtful, innovative,
Speaker 3: intelligent member. No committees in the Senate whatsoever, because Senate
Speaker 3: leadership didn't like what he did, and he had the audacity,
Speaker 3: I guess, to endorse someone in a primary which he
Speaker 3: didn't even realize at the time that they were running
Speaker 3: against an incumbent, went and called the incumbent and apologized.
Speaker 3: The incumbent said, no problem, I totally see how it
Speaker 3: can happen. But leadership, not so much apparently called him
Speaker 3: in the office and gave him the old what for
Speaker 3: meeting and he doesn't have any committees to this point,
Speaker 3: this is a travesty to the counties that he represents.
Speaker 3: This is not to be the process. We don't elect
Speaker 3: people to sit under the approval of a speaker or
Speaker 3: majority leader or a Senate president. We elect people to
Speaker 3: represent us, period and that individual is supposed to follow
Speaker 3: along with what our representatives and senators would have us
Speaker 3: move in the direction. Therefore, but this is the federal
Speaker 3: level as well. David Brott who ousted Eric Canter in
Speaker 3: a primary, So don't say that we can't take incumbents
Speaker 3: out as we can Eric.
Speaker 5: Fourteen remember that lection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Tom Dashel was ousted Senate leadership, so you
Speaker 3: can oust people. We have termments. It's called elections. But
Speaker 3: brought talks about his first time in office. And I
Speaker 3: think David Blum from Iowa talks about this too. As
Speaker 3: they were told, and Bayner told Blum you either vote,
Speaker 3: you vote for Bayner for speaker, or you don't get
Speaker 3: your I think it was two million in campaign funds,
Speaker 3: and you won't be here is what they said. Well,
Speaker 3: Blum did not vote for Bayner. He stood tall Bayner
Speaker 3: was later removed a speaker and Blum was still there,
Speaker 3: but campaign funds weren't there.
Speaker 7: You go, yes, we have because of that, because of
Speaker 7: the system. Yeah, basically, what it does, the conveyor built
Speaker 7: leadership system transfers power not only from the people to
Speaker 7: the billion is, but it transposed power from the representatives
Speaker 7: to the billionaires.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It let's a very small oligard decide who will
Speaker 3: have leadership roles. That's what it does. And that's the
Speaker 3: unfortunate thing. So we have just a couple more minutes
Speaker 3: before we have to go anything else you want before people.
Speaker 7: Well, there was one a good example of that here,
Speaker 7: and that happened in the House only a few months ago,
Speaker 7: speak of Perez. We had a health freedom bill that
Speaker 7: had gone through the Senate. Desanta said he wanted to
Speaker 7: sign it. The House hadn't considered it. Sosta pulled them
Speaker 7: back into a special session and told them, I'm giving
Speaker 7: you a special session just to consider this bill. Speaker
Speaker 7: of the House, Pere, turn to the members of the House.
Speaker 7: Now there's one hundred nineteen other ones besides them. They
Speaker 7: said to them, I do not want one person to
Speaker 7: sponsor this bill on the floor, and it was a
Speaker 7: guy who had it, was all ready to put it in.
Speaker 7: Not one person Republican or Democrat would stand up to
Speaker 7: him and say I'll put in it. Not one person
Speaker 7: out of one hundred and nineteen reps. And it's even
Speaker 7: worse than that because come January he's not going to
Speaker 7: be the speaker anymore because he taste time limited. So
Speaker 7: what are they afraid of. They weren't afraid of him.
Speaker 7: They were afraid of the money behind him.
Speaker 3: And we see that now, whether it's House majority funds,
Speaker 3: Senate majority funds. Another good idea, but can become very
Speaker 3: controlling and working against the people. All right, So this
Speaker 3: is one more reason why we need to get good
Speaker 3: people elected. Former R and C chair used to say,
Speaker 3: we seldom see bad people get better when elected office.
Speaker 3: We often see good people get worse. Which is why
Speaker 3: we need somebody who is well grounded, well founded, able
Speaker 3: to see the dangers, willing to stand for your liberties
Speaker 3: and your and your freedoms even when it's not going
Speaker 3: to be popular, and vic if you've proven anything just
Speaker 3: by finding this bill. HB nine four five and SB
Speaker 3: seventeen twelve would be the companion bill. This in Florida.
Speaker 3: You can look it up online HB nine four five.
Speaker 3: We've given you the line numbers. We've gone through the bill.
Speaker 3: This is disastrous. This, along with the flock cameras, the
Speaker 3: AI data centers, is just an atrocity to our liberties.
Speaker 3: And so vic I just thank you very much for
Speaker 3: stepping out to serve the people of Florida and Senate
Speaker 3: District twenty two. Anything you want to say in closing
Speaker 3: a minute left, I.
Speaker 7: Want to say this, Tamara, I want to thank you
Speaker 7: so much because the local media here does not covet this.
Speaker 7: If it wasn't put courageous bloggers like yourself right who
Speaker 7: have shows and bring the facts to the people, they
Speaker 7: wouldn't know about it because these type of bills. The
Speaker 7: only time that general media reports on these is when
Speaker 7: it's too late, when they're already in law.
Speaker 5: That's what they tell you.
Speaker 7: It's only people like you who will for run it
Speaker 7: and let the people know what's going on ahead of time.
Speaker 5: And I really want to thank you for doing that.
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Speaker 3: to you, and again to your primary opponent. They're welcome
Speaker 3: to come on this show, but they will have hard
Speaker 3: questions to answer, starting with this bill that would eat
Speaker 3: away at our liberties and be authoritarian and overreaching against
Speaker 3: our constitution. Vick rowhe Senate District twenty two in Florida.
Speaker 3: To all our viewers out there, you've heard him speak,
Speaker 3: a good man. If you know people in that area,
Speaker 3: do what you can, and as always, we pray that
Speaker 3: the Lord would help us to know the truth, reveal
Speaker 3: or expose falsehoods, and have those who have ill gained
Speaker 3: or ill motive be made known so we can have justice.
Speaker 3: And as we tell you, live boldly, love better, lat bigger,
Speaker 3: be encouraged, and never be complacent.