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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Dorky Out. My name is Sonya Mansfield, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're a disgrace to depression. Joining me is my podcasting

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<v Speaker 1>sister from another mister and the co host of Dorkying Out. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Margo d Hello, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, my friend. I am so filled with rage, which

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<v Speaker 2>is I don't think was James Brooks's idea. He wrote

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<v Speaker 2>this piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>No oo boy, oh man, we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>dorky Out about nineteen ninety seven's as good as it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>Directed by James L. Brooks, who I normally quite love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Screenplay by Mark Andres and also James L. Brooks, Ours,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Nicholson, Helen Hunt, Greg Kinnear, Coopa Gooden Junior Skeet Ulrich.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in there for like a hot second, fucking hot

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<v Speaker 2>by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Shirley Jackson Yardley Smith also known as Lisa Simpson.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get a little cameo by Harold Ramis little

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<v Speaker 1>cameo by Lawrence Kasden.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh who was Kasden?

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<v Speaker 1>Kasden was the psychiatrist. Oh okay, Yeah, Todd Solan's shows

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<v Speaker 1>up in there. The director of Welcome to the Dollhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the House.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Baby Maya Rudolph is for hot second as a policewoman.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Jesus, all kinds.

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<v Speaker 1>Of little cameos. These are the things I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for to try to make me feel happy watching this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Because spoiler, I hated smooth, hated it. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>it in ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, No, I've never liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do we pick it? I don't know. Sometimes we

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<v Speaker 2>just need to get a rage out. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is where we're clearly using stuff we're already pissed

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<v Speaker 2>off about, and we're just going to funnel it through

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. Some people do that when their team loses,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or you lose your car keys, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you just freak out about everything. Yes, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>thing where as good as it gets, is serving to

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<v Speaker 2>make me less homicidal.

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<v Speaker 1>It is my punching bag today, right. Yes, did you

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<v Speaker 1>see it in the theater?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I thought it looked stupid from the first trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lucky I knew people who went to the There

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<v Speaker 2>was screenings of it because I was working in entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. I remember the Oscars and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>just every time people talk about this movie, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>that just sounds like dog shit. And then when I

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<v Speaker 2>rented it, and I think it was over the summer

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<v Speaker 2>it came out night, I was like, this movie is infuriating,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I didn't touch it until I wrote my

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<v Speaker 2>book about films in Brooklyn a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's filmed in Windsor terrorists neighborhood next to me, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I'll watch it again. This is

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half years ago, and I was so

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<v Speaker 2>filled with rage that I was like, Sonya and I,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to talk about this. Wee day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it came up I think last week in our

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<v Speaker 1>ice Harvest episode. For some reason, I don't remember why

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<v Speaker 1>it came up.

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<v Speaker 2>We so in that episode we talk about everything except

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<v Speaker 2>for ice Harvest for the most part. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>such a forgett well.

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<v Speaker 1>And for some reason this came up, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we decided to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this in the theater and even then I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like it. I I remember, and this is still true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the dog is very cute. Okay, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>good give me a dog movie. Sure, And then when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it in the theater, I thought Greg Kinier

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<v Speaker 1>was actually pretty good, and to me, he was known

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<v Speaker 1>as the guy from Talk Soup. Yes, so I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look who's in a movie with Jack Nicholson and actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was happy for him. I liked him and Sabrina.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was really good in that the remake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like great kin Ere. I have nothing against Greak

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<v Speaker 2>can Ear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I But my problem was even then was look,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually kind of like Helen Hunt now, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the time I really didn't like Helen Hunt. I she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it for me, and she doesn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>for me in this movie either, and she's terrible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of it is she's just not she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it for me. And two, that character annoys the fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of me. Let's say this. You and I were

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<v Speaker 2>we were texting last night, and I said to you,

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<v Speaker 2>what if I came up with something a movie, a

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<v Speaker 2>script with people who don't talk like people, who don't

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<v Speaker 2>behave like people, and everything happens to them doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>any sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposed to let that go and then I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. But David Lynch died recently and I went

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<v Speaker 2>back to go watch Twin Peaks on Paramount the first

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<v Speaker 2>couple of seasons, and in Twin Peaks, people don't act

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<v Speaker 2>like people. They have weird dialogue, they respond weirdly, they

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<v Speaker 2>dance weirdly, they dress weirdly, they eat weirdly. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a humanity there, like there's something like I care about

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<v Speaker 2>Laura's parents, I care about Yeah, you know there's something there.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's done artfully, so I maybe gets pretentious, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's done with an artistic edge. This movie is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do twenty things at once and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>landing anywhere near it and everyone looks at it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a toddler through spaghetti at the wall and then

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<v Speaker 2>everybody thinks it's Picasso. There.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that this movie was nominated for seven Oscars,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt won for

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<v Speaker 1>this movie boggles my fucking mind. Like, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>the whole premise of this movie is that Jack Nicholson

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<v Speaker 1>is playing a romance novelist. Sure, even Jack Nicholson isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a good enough actor to convince me that he could

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<v Speaker 1>play a romance novelist. I don't buy it, not for

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<v Speaker 1>one oufit but he also has like OCD, he has

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<v Speaker 1>obsessive compulsive disorder, and he's also a racist, a homophobe,

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<v Speaker 1>and sexist is all get out and right, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>miserable prick and he's a fucking dick to everyone he meets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the movie, as we're supposed to think, aw, that

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<v Speaker 2>poor man has a problem and that's making him behave

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<v Speaker 2>in ways that are odd, and we all need to

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<v Speaker 2>understand that. It's like, I know people to OCD and

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<v Speaker 2>that are not racist, they're not homophobic people there people

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<v Speaker 2>can be tortured by it if you're not being treated

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<v Speaker 2>and I understand that, but I feel like this movie

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<v Speaker 2>uses it as a reason to he won't step on

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<v Speaker 2>sidewalk cracks and he'll use the f slur on anybody

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<v Speaker 2>as if as a writer in New York City, he

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<v Speaker 2>never met a gay man in his fucking life.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, exactly like what. I am very curious what

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<v Speaker 1>people who have OCD with how they would respond to

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<v Speaker 1>this movie because it's mainly played for laughs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely. And I have a friend that's writing a

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<v Speaker 2>book about disappility and movies, Kristin Lopez, And yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask her about this, Yeah, because she's she's

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<v Speaker 2>she's in a wheelchair, she's in a she's disabled, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's very I need to ask her about this because

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<v Speaker 2>I see the world differently now when she sat talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that book, and I wonder if I were at OCD,

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<v Speaker 2>how would I feel about this movie how it represents

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<v Speaker 2>somebody like me? Because does he not have Tourette's as well?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's something like, oh I don't have that. Say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. Yes, that was an episode of La Law.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a guy right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but that's not what's happening here. Yes, he has

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<v Speaker 1>obsessive compulsive disorder and he's just a fucking asshole. Like

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<v Speaker 1>his obsessive compulsive disorder is actually played for jokes again,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, haha, he locks and unlocks his doors and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't walk on cracks and has to eat at

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<v Speaker 1>the same restaurant and sit at the same table where

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<v Speaker 1>he then says a bunch of anti Semitic shit to

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<v Speaker 1>two people who are sitting at the table so that

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<v Speaker 1>they will leave their table so that he can sit there.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that funny? So New York funny.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a New York City based writer he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>any Jewish people, he doesn't know any gay people. He's

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<v Speaker 2>never met a woman in his life to talk to.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, none of this makes make this make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and Helen Hunt is playing a character named Carol

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<v Speaker 1>who has a six son, sad. She's sad, single mom

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<v Speaker 1>who works at the restaurant, and apparently she's the only

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<v Speaker 1>waitress that he can tolerate. So like he has to

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<v Speaker 1>sit at her section, he has to sit at his table,

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<v Speaker 1>and like he's totally shitty to her. He uses his plastic,

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<v Speaker 1>like his plastic silverware or whatever. And when her son

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<v Speaker 1>is sick so often that she maybe is going to

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<v Speaker 1>work at a restaurant that's closer to her home, he

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<v Speaker 1>loses his fucking shit and like hires a doctor to

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<v Speaker 1>like go to her house and treat her son. He

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<v Speaker 1>shows up at her house at one point. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think any of that's funny. This is not funny to

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<v Speaker 1>me that he shows up at her house like a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking psycho.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, he's in the house already treating her son,

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<v Speaker 2>and her mother lives with her and her son. Hass Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we understand he has asthma, but we don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>how bad the asthma is. Apparently it's really really bad,

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel bad for her, but I told you

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<v Speaker 2>one thing. Sorry, Yeah, what the fuck accent is she doing?

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<v Speaker 2>But is heaven on doing in this movie? Because these

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<v Speaker 2>are two super unlikable people, Why why they find one

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<v Speaker 2>another attractive makes no sense to me. Nope, they're they're angry,

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<v Speaker 2>they're mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. I don't buy for one second that she would

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<v Speaker 1>go out with him. Never. What we're watching is a

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<v Speaker 1>woman trying to convince herself it's right. In the title,

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<v Speaker 1>this is as good as it's gonna get right she

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<v Speaker 1>We are watching a woman talk herself into settling with

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<v Speaker 1>a man that she knows is wrong for her, but

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<v Speaker 2>Pay her kids hospital bills, move to Canada. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>is there really no other choice?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the the whole movie is her like he's shitty,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, fuck you for being She leaves. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>calls rights and is like, I feel banned and I

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<v Speaker 1>was so shitty to you, and then like maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>is the right person for me. No, he's not the

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<v Speaker 1>right person for me. That's back and forth, back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. I'm you're watching this woman just settle

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<v Speaker 1>for like exactly. She's thirty four and he's sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>And she can't find I mean, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough to date, and New York is impossible. I

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<v Speaker 2>lived here. It's it's tough. But you can find someone.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. She's cute enough to get a fireman that

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<v Speaker 2>lives in the town like she's She could find some

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<v Speaker 2>if that was important, If that's important to her. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, though, what does he provide her besides the

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<v Speaker 2>money for her son, which is important, yeah, but what else?

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<v Speaker 2>He is nothing but a pain in the ass. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say racist shit, he's gonna be he's he's, like

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<v Speaker 1>He hates him. She says, like, don't ruin this by

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<v Speaker 1>and he likes her because she is the only woman

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<v Speaker 2>Which is and I guess it's sixty okay, But what

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<v Speaker 2>of his despite his wealth, every all the other things,

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't go near him. This guy, No one would

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<v Speaker 2>go near this guy. No one would work with him,

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<v Speaker 2>no one would sit with him. He's awful to his

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors at his home. Yep, he's horrible to Greg Kinnear,

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<v Speaker 2>who's his neighbor. And he's I mean I remember at

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<v Speaker 2>I look at it down. I'm like, this performance of

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<v Speaker 2>TV movie from nineteen seventy seven, just just a very

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm living with my.

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<v Speaker 1>Boyfriend and he is one step above the performance of

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<v Speaker 1>the gay neighbor in uh Sante Almo's Fire. It's where

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<v Speaker 1>he's like holding a pink fruity drink and he's like high,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's above that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a little sadder than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's very he is sad. And that's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>So there's the Helen Hunt storyline. We're gonna go through

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go through it. The movie opens with Verdell

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's always gonna win me over. That's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>A cute little like Bijeon Freeze or I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what they call those dogs, but he's got he's got

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<v Speaker 2>It's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna clearly pee in the hall, which you're bad

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<v Speaker 1>dog owner. You don't let your dog pee in the hall.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a thing, especially if it's carpeting in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, dah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jack Nicholson is like yelling at the dog, like

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<v Speaker 1>don't you be here? And then he takes the dog,

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<v Speaker 1>which then immediately starts peeing everywhere because it's not funny,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he puts it down the garbage chute, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to me, no, it's not funny because it's not funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Monty Python can do that joke and do

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<v Speaker 1>it well, but there's a tone that you have to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a fish called Wanda, like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Has this absurd tone. So it's not real. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>but we're supposed to, on the one hand, really identify

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Nicholson as this tortured person and that he lashes

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<v Speaker 2>out because he's got problems. No, he's fucking throwing a

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<v Speaker 2>dog down a garbage huot.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's he's he's should go down this guy, he

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<v Speaker 1>should go down the garbage chute. He's try okay, he's trash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So now then we meet Greg Knear. He's playing Simon

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<v Speaker 1>his like gay artist neighbor, and he's like, where's my

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<v Speaker 1>little dog? Where's Rudel? And like he's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, And then they find like the janitor

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. The maintenance man finds the dog like in

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<v Speaker 1>the trash and Paul, isn't that funny? And then Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholson proceeds to say some of the most awful hateful

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<v Speaker 1>ship yeah to Greg Knear and to Kuba Gooden Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>who's playing like his gay agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Agent friend manager, yeah, agent, his agent, his gagent. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's and he's the one that stands up to him,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, you're just lucky I don't beat the

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<v Speaker 2>ship out of you, Like, can we just beat the

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<v Speaker 2>ship out of him? Why are we holding back? He's dreadful.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of that, they stop doing that. They all

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<v Speaker 2>start like just making me so mad. Turn the fuck off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they can.

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<v Speaker 2>None of them even go back at him or make

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<v Speaker 2>fun of him back like they just take it. They do,

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<v Speaker 2>And I fucking hate that. I hate hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he we meet. He like goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant where he always eats. He's super shitty to the

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<v Speaker 1>people that have the nerve to sit at his tape

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<v Speaker 1>when he wants to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not funny. Sure doesn't throw him out, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Like at this point the manager should be like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not welcome here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're not welcomely, so he gets to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>at his table. He's overheard conversations now that like Helen

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<v Speaker 1>Hunt's son is very sick or something, and at some

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<v Speaker 1>point he's he says something like, you know, we're all

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<v Speaker 1>gonna die, and so is your son or something. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like what and she's like, how dare you, like get

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<v Speaker 1>my son's name out of your fucking mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's like this, okay, okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give you one second to take that back, because I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't like to hear you saying that about my son,

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<v Speaker 2>which in real life you would take a cup of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and throw in his face. Yes, they get the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck out exactly, That's what that's that's what responds.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they do in New York, right, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought James Brooks was from New York. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>he's not. I don't know anybody that these people are

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<v Speaker 2>not from New York. They're certainly not from Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>But continue, yeah, so she she's willing to like she

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's like, oh sorry, but you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's like fine, I'll get your food, and he like

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<v Speaker 1>orders the same thing every time, and then he like

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<v Speaker 1>goes home and he's like writing his book and he's whatever. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I never buy Jack Nicholson as a romance author, because

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<v Speaker 1>not for one second do I believe he is romantic.

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<v Speaker 1>But at some point, like Simon the Great Canear character

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<v Speaker 1>needs a male model, So Skeet Oleridge is his male model.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is like is this like right before Scream,

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<v Speaker 1>right around scream time? Maybe right after Scream because like

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Kennedy is one of the dudes in there too

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<v Speaker 1>before like Skeet Ulrich like really blew up.

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<v Speaker 2>My neighbors, by the way, loved skull Rich and he

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<v Speaker 2>had a show that they would watch every week and

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear them from the group next floor. He's

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<v Speaker 2>very he's very hot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's but yeah, so he he's posing for uh Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Kanear who's like I guess he draws or paints or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But he invites his like druggy friends over and they

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<v Speaker 1>start robbing him and then they beat up Greg Knear.

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<v Speaker 1>They like they fully kick his ass and like fuck

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<v Speaker 1>up his face and like he's in the hospital. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're supposed to think that's funny. There's this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing with Yardley Smith keeps crying in front of

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<v Speaker 1>him because he's like so beat up, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They played in for laps and it's like he's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Your friend was beating within an inch of his life

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all thinking about themselves in this moment. Like

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<v Speaker 2>this moment is just making me so uncomfortable right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>get your shit together. You're with your friend at the hospital, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Kuba Good Junior walks in and is like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>like about his face.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I've both been in the hospital before. If

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<v Speaker 2>somebody had come and visited me and pulled that shit, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, get the fuck out, get the fuck out,

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<v Speaker 2>bring me a smoothie and get the fuck out. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need that. I don't need you crying. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>if I were his friend, I'd be like, dude, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, the face heals very quickly. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look garish, but you're fine. This will heal quickly. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they're balling, they're sobbing helplessly like children.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're a monster. Now you're not handsome, Greg Knar,

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<v Speaker 1>He's still handsome.

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<v Speaker 2>Green, He's still handsome, Greg Canear. He'll be fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>spoiler we see him in the next scene. He's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still like a totally off putting reaction, like

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<v Speaker 2>just not how people people anyway, people I like anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, So those aren't friends. Because Greg Knear is

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital, there's no one to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>the dog, so his uh gagent Kuba Junior, goes over

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<v Speaker 1>and like picks up the dog and tries to convince

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<v Speaker 1>the old lady neighbor to take the dog, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>uh no, thank you. So he bully he's Jack Nicholson's

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<v Speaker 1>character into taking in the dog the man who shoved

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<v Speaker 1>it down the garbage choot. Right, Yeah, He's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>will take the dog, and if you don't, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>beat your ass, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is something he should have beat his ass a

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<v Speaker 2>while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, Also, Jack Nicholson's character again has OCD,

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<v Speaker 1>but only seems to have it until he's confronted, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he doesn't have it anymore. Right, Like if he

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<v Speaker 1>had like severe OCD, which is what we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>believe he has, there's no way the dog would have

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<v Speaker 1>ever been in his house. But whatever, he like, the

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<v Speaker 1>minute he's confronted, he's like, he's fine, Yeah, he's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He's letting it happen. He's forgetting to lock the doors,

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<v Speaker 1>he's walking on the cracks on the sidewalk, he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>all the things like the minute he's confronted, so he

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<v Speaker 1>takes in the dog. And honestly, they maybe could have

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<v Speaker 1>just made a movie where Jack Nicholson hangs out with

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<v Speaker 1>a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>That could have been a fun movie, Like he has

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<v Speaker 2>this turnaround with this dog. Now you and the dog

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<v Speaker 2>go on front at Yeah, you don't get that, not

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<v Speaker 2>this fucking movie. No, James Brooks is just wants to

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<v Speaker 2>it's all over our cheerios.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, Nope. There's a very cute scene where they're walking

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<v Speaker 1>with he's walking the dog and the dog is also

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<v Speaker 1>jumping over the cracks and I was like, looel, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's funny. Yeah, And he's like, don't you be

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<v Speaker 1>like me, you'd be better than me. And because he's

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<v Speaker 1>like nice to the dog, like Helen Hunt, decides to

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<v Speaker 1>be nice to him. And what happens after that, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm like, let me, I'm like I have

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<v Speaker 1>to actually go through my notes at this point. Blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh, Like he he

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<v Speaker 1>goes to the restaurant. She's because he's being nice to

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<v Speaker 1>the dog, and he actually sits at a different table

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<v Speaker 1>so that he can keep an eye on the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>She decides to like be nice to him, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he like asks about her son, like why is he

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<v Speaker 1>so sick? What's his name? And she's like, oh, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>ever asks about me, Like she's you know, whoha. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>like he also tells her that she looks fifty. Like

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<v Speaker 1>then he like insults her looks and she's fuck off and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I get it that she's supposed to play the

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<v Speaker 2>hairried mom. Yeah, but I feel like the characterization that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on here, it's like dialogue that doesn't make sense,

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<v Speaker 2>an accent that is from I don't know where. As

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<v Speaker 2>a resident of Brooklyn of thirty years, I do not recognize,

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<v Speaker 2>we do not claim that accent that she's doing. I

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<v Speaker 2>speak for all of us here, all yeah, two million

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<v Speaker 2>that live here. And also that hair is just like

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<v Speaker 2>not doing her favors at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually, I really don't understand what's going on

418
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<v Speaker 1>with her hair. Oh it's like a like a fifties

419
00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.880
<v Speaker 1>housewife kind of thing going on.

420
00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>It's really bad.

421
00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:01.160
<v Speaker 1>The movie again, it's in ninety seven. So he also

422
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.079
<v Speaker 1>calls her like tired and bitter and like he's really

423
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:08.279
<v Speaker 1>mean to her. But she he shows up at the

424
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>restaurant again, she's not there because she's going to work

425
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>closer to home because her son is sick all the time.

426
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, I'm going to get a doctor

427
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to pay for to take care of

428
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.839
<v Speaker 1>her son so that she will work at the restaurant.

429
00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I want her to work at and feed me. And

430
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.160
<v Speaker 1>then he shows up at her house and he's like,

431
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you've ruined my whole day. I have it eaten because

432
00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you're not there to serve me food. And again it's

433
00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>played for laughs, And I don't think it's funny that

434
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:44.119
<v Speaker 1>he's stalking her now at her home right and acting

435
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like a.

436
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Weirdo, like just no empathy at all, and that's.

437
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's no boundaries none and calls her tired

438
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and bitter and she's like, fuck you, you know, get the

439
00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:59.319
<v Speaker 1>fuck out of here. And he goes to get a

440
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.559
<v Speaker 1>cab and she realizes her son as a fever and

441
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>she like stops him, like, we need your cab, and

442
00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>they like all ride to the hospital together, and then

443
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>he's like, are you gonna come into work today? No,

444
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>dick head, She's not coming to no.

445
00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Aho Ah. Again, I think we're supposed to fucking sense.

446
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Nobody acts like a person. No, nobody acts like they

447
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.920
<v Speaker 2>have their stem cell. You know, there's stem reasons their

448
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:32.839
<v Speaker 2>brain doesn't read their spinal cord or whatever. It's just, yeah,

449
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.119
<v Speaker 2>they they talk in a way that doesn't make sense.

450
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>They behave in a way that doesn't make sense. There's

451
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.400
<v Speaker 2>nothing to relate to. Everything is so unrelatable that all

452
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.599
<v Speaker 2>these little moments that James Brooks likes to put in,

453
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 2>little quick moments that are humanizing, and I like those normally,

454
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, like in broadcast news.

455
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh my god, I love broadcasting.

456
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, there's little like we did. Indeed,

457
00:24:58.119 --> 00:24:58.839
<v Speaker 2>like right.

458
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, that movie's super sad and deals with a lot.

459
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Of ands too at the same time. Yeah, so that

460
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.799
<v Speaker 2>he knows how to do the tragic comedy very well.

461
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Why but he's missing it the fuck out of here

462
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>this one. I'm telling you, I had steam coming out

463
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>of my ears sometimes with this movie. I would just

464
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:21.680
<v Speaker 2>have to hit pause because I was like, I need

465
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.839
<v Speaker 2>a minute because I'm really pissed off right now.

466
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:27.880
<v Speaker 1>It's so bad that I went and I took my

467
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.559
<v Speaker 1>dog and put him down the garbage choot. How bad

468
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 1>it is? Sorry, Max, Sorry, man, my big ass dog.

469
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Get in there, Get in the garbage shoot. There's a

470
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>point where like he's talking to like a fan of

471
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 1>his books, and she's like, how do you write women

472
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>so well?

473
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:50.160
<v Speaker 2>And he says that, oh is so, I'm sorry. It's

474
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>not the actor's fault, by the way, No, it's the

475
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.119
<v Speaker 2>script and it's the way you're being directed.

476
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just yeah, it's not her fault. Now that's Buffy

477
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the Van Empire Slayer fans will know that that is

478
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Julie Ben's.

479
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 2>And oh, I wondered who that was yeah.

480
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>And she's she's lovely and nothing but love for her.

481
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not her fault that she's.

482
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not her fault. But the direction is really

483
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>bad here.

484
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 1>That's just like, how do you wraye women so well?

485
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>And he says, I think of a man and I

486
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>take away reason and accountability. Isn't that funny? That's so funny.

487
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Does that mean women don't have reason or accountability? Or

488
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>is that mean men don't have reason and accountability?

489
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 1>He's saying that men have reason and accountability and women

490
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>go fuck himself. Yeah, I'm like, yeah accountable right, well,

491
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>boomer men are all about accountability, Margot, what are you

492
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Oh my god, what a fucking brick. So

493
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>we go back to Simon now, who has discovered that

494
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he is broke. He has no medical insurance because everything's

495
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.839
<v Speaker 1>fucking broken here in our country, and he has like

496
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.759
<v Speaker 1>sixty one thousand dollars in dead and he hasn't sold

497
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>any art, and he's going to have to ask his

498
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>parents for money. And again his gagent now is like,

499
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you need to drive to Baltimore and go ask your

500
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>parents for money. But I'm not going to drive you.

501
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get that bigot who lives across the street

502
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 1>or across the hall to take you for some strange reason.

503
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Right, And Greg Kenear has had nothing but a bad

504
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 2>interactions with Jack Nicholson. He's grateful that he took care

505
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>of his dog and Nicholson and his character likes the dog.

506
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Harry's got his name.

507
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>He likes Superdell Verdell.

508
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I mean his character. Oh Melvin mel Oh, Jesus

509
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 2>that name so Melvin and the yeah, so he then

510
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 2>we get it's he basically emotionally uh tricks manipulates Helen

511
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Hunt to go to Baltimore with his with Greg Kennear, yes,

512
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and him did they bring the dog? I can't remember?

513
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>The dog is like apparently the dog is so upset

514
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>about going back and forth between Melvin and Simon that

515
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 1>he has an upset tummy and he's at the vent.

516
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, convenient but okay, so that gonna cost you a

517
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 2>pretty petty hunt But okay there, But there is.

518
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing about like Melvin, I skipped over this part.

519
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Melvin gets a doctor to come and look at Helen

520
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Hunt's son, and it's Harold Ramis. We love to see

521
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Ramis and he's delightful and no, no shade to Harold Ramis,

522
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And there is truth to the scene of when someone

523
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>is telling you your kid is gonna be okay when

524
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 1>your kid is sick, that like there is a huge

525
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.519
<v Speaker 1>fucking relief. Of course, obvious.

526
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Monster, I don't know that, And I'm actually happy in

527
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that scene. I'm kind of like, where's the movie gonna

528
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>go now? And Nicholson comes right the next fucking scene,

529
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>like right away was up the stairs and says, I

530
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't need today. You ruined my day, yes, motherfucker.

531
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well so there's I was bringing this up because

532
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it's she talks about like, oh, this is such a

533
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 1>huge relief, and she like hugs it, hugs Harold Ramis

534
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you know, it's a huge moment. And

535
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 1>then like the next thing for hers, like she's crying

536
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 1>to her mother about like, well, now I don't know

537
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 1>what to do with myself because I don't know how

538
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to worry. I don't have this to worry about anymore so,

539
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't have a man. Basically, it's like that's

540
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 1>now that she's done worrying about her son every five seconds, she.

541
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Now has to think about trying to not dialoge.

542
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. So there's this whole thing where like

543
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 1>she's like writes a letter that she's gonna give to

544
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Jack Nicholson to thank him, and then she like goes

545
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>out in the middle of the night in a rainstorm

546
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 1>in a T shirt and no, oh, bra, I'm wearing

547
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a jet By the way, she rarely seems to be

548
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 1>wearing a bra in this movie, which that is not

549
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 1>a thing for moms, by the way, we wear bras, Like.

550
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 2>It's very Charlie's Angels.

551
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.759
<v Speaker 1>And she like shows up at his house and it's

552
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 1>like she's not wearing a bron and it's like, so haha,

553
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not funny.

554
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like the Notebook except not sexy at all

555
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 2>and really irritating.

556
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just very, very stupid. And she tells him like,

557
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sleep with you. I will never

558
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:39.039
<v Speaker 1>sleep with you never ever, not ever, Like okay, you know,

559
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>but she but she will, she will eventually, you know,

560
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen. But and he's like, okay, he won't

561
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 1>take the note. It's like whatever, who cares? Yeah, the Gauge,

562
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the the Gagent bullies Melvin into like driving Simon to

563
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore and then Melvin Bullize Carol to go with them.

564
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 1>He says it's because he's afraid the Greg kinnear is

565
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>going to make a pass at him because he's so irresistible.

566
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this six year old dick is really irresistible to

567
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Greg kennear by the way tractive thirty year olds. Right,

568
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>he's super fucking injured and the last thing he wants

569
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to do probably right yeahing him this whole time.

570
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh so hot.

571
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's not going to give you a handy.

572
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 2>But but they drive to Baltimore and they're driving out

573
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 2>of the city and they're in a car, and he's

574
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>got the CDs, like the different Kinds of Jesus, and

575
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 2>it's all labeled. It's all so tweet what they try

576
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to do sometimes it's so tweety. So he has these

577
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>labels for like music, and they drive there and then

578
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 2>at one point this I don't know why, this also

579
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>really annoyed me, but like they're driving and then Greg

580
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Caneer starts giving his trauma dump.

581
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, Oh my god, I just I wrote in

582
00:31:58.599 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 1>here oscar clip.

583
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 2>That's where she's like, I want to give you my

584
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>full attention. So we're going to pull over. Does that

585
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 2>you can drive and talk? There's no like, there's no,

586
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>he's not saying anything. No one's heard before. Oh I

587
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>have parents that are homophobes. Oh really, never heard that

588
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 2>story before. Yeah, we're New Yorkers. Everybody comes here from

589
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 2>the gay home.

590
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:27.279
<v Speaker 1>It's true. His monologue reminds me of Wayne's world, where

591
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like Oscar clip, Oscar clip, Oscar clip.

592
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Like taking the ice, like throwing water at his face

593
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>to look like crying.

594
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Right, and there's oh, sorry, go ahead, don't go ahead.

595
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I just say there is. There could be a whole

596
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>other movie here, like if they had because I think

597
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>what the movie's trying to do at some point is

598
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>because he talks about like I used to draw my

599
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 1>mother like you know, like one of my French girls basically,

600
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.039
<v Speaker 1>and you know my dad saw and he didn't like

601
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah, And it basically happens again later

602
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>like he's drawing Helen Hunt. Jack Nicholson comes home and

603
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 1>he's like, did you sleep with her? You know, and

604
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>it gets all mad. There is a movie here that

605
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 1>could have been from like Simon's point of view. And

606
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, like my parents disown me and he

607
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of makes his own family and learns acceptance and

608
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. But that's not what this movie is now.

609
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't want to do that. Instead, it's from this

610
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 1>like racist, homophobic bigot that it's told from his point

611
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 1>of view for someone.

612
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 2>And we're all supposed to think we need to be

613
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.599
<v Speaker 2>more understanding of him, Yes, and then he'll be a

614
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>better person. Which look at the world we live in now.

615
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, if you don't give.

616
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Them anything, you don't give them a fucking inch. Yes,

617
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you don't know have to.

618
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 1>We're all done with that now.

619
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's part of it too. It's just like

620
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 2>what a what a white male privileged thing to be

621
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.279
<v Speaker 2>sixty years old? Yeah, and then kind of stamp back

622
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and say, give me all the due respect I think

623
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I have, but also give me all kinds of space

624
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 2>to make mistakes, but don't call me on my mistakes.

625
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>You know I'm still better than you. But yeah, I mean,

626
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>like the mind games that are that we have to

627
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 2>go through to deal with people like this is like,

628
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not that is not the center character of a story.

629
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>And I know it was nineteen ninety seven. I was

630
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.920
<v Speaker 2>alive in nineteen ninety seven, a full grown adult, and

631
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I knew that was a shit movie, and a shit

632
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I guess. And I could not understand because who cares

633
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 2>what happens in this movie after this part? I mean,

634
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>honest to god, it doesn't make sense. He's painting and

635
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>he's taking drawings of her, and he's how many drawings

636
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 2>did he do in one night? He did like there

637
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 2>for hours. I was like sixty drawings. He could do

638
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>a calendar with her.

639
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:48.760
<v Speaker 1>He basically stayed up all night drawing her. And but

640
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 1>before all of that, like Helen Hunt is on the

641
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 1>phone with her son. He's like playing soccer and she's like,

642
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he's a real boy. And so she's like,

643
00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to go out to dinner to celebrate, and

644
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 1>great keneers like, peace out. I'm not doing that, and

645
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>so she's like, well, you're taking me on a date then, Melvin,

646
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and you've made it very clear that you don't want

647
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to sleep with Melvin, so that's what are you doing.

648
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>But like she gets all dressed up, he takes the

649
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 1>world's longest shower. Apparently, they go to dinner where he

650
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>is the whole way to the restaurant. He's like, they

651
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>better have hard chilled crabs. They better have hard chilled crabs.

652
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.519
<v Speaker 1>I better have how fun for her? How fun?

653
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

654
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Like, and then it turns out there's you have to

655
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 1>wear a suit and a tie, and like he doesn't

656
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>have that, and he won't wear the one from the restaurant,

657
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>so he has to go buy one.

658
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like, h and he can't walk in the store

659
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>because they have cracks in the floor that he can't

660
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>walk on.

661
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but but he'll walk on five minutes from now

662
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and totally forget that he has OCD. So he buys

663
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a suit a tie, goes back. She almost says that

664
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he looks sexy, and I was like, like, almost did

665
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a spit taker and she said it, yeah, I know, girl,

666
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 1>be serious drunk?

667
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Are you already?

668
00:35:56.280 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 1>And then they sit down to eat and he insult again.

669
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm gonna leave unless you give me a

670
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>compliment because that's totally how people speak.

671
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>That's how we talk totally.

672
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 1>And then he says like, hey, like, after you came

673
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>over and said you wouldn't fuck me, I started digging

674
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>anti depressants because you make me want to be a

675
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>better man.

676
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And they work in twelve hours. They don't by the way,

677
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 2>just waving to you over here. It's a few weeks

678
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 2>before you see any notice, you know.

679
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also the whole like the movie thinks this

680
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 1>is a huge moment.

681
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a hero.

682
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he goes, you make me want to be a

683
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>better man. And she's a.

684
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Line to this movie that they think are resonating and

685
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>they're just so obviously a scripted line is just I mean,

686
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it's it's such an insult to the intelligence. Yeah, and

687
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 2>the people that fall for this. I do side I

688
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>you because I I'm sorry, not sorry, I I I

689
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>just like, have you never seen a movie before?

690
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.119
<v Speaker 1>She's like, this is the biggest compliment I've ever received,

691
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 1>And I'm all gross, it's so gross. Like the idea.

692
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what that that son's father looks like, yeah,

693
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 2>he's really real.

694
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 1>He the idea of you came over and said you

695
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't fuck me made me realize that, man, I really

696
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 1>want to fuck you. So I started taking antidepressants that's.

697
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Which kill your sex drive. But okay, it's just and

698
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I just and.

699
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Then they like I don't know, and she like scooches

700
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>over and kisses him. And at no point, at no

701
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 1>point in this movie do I believe.

702
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>That she likes him. He's not likable, he had his

703
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 2>better person self. He's an asshole. He's innoxious. Oh, he's believable.

704
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 2>He's condescending, he's dismissive, he is completely charmless. Yes, he

705
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.559
<v Speaker 2>pays her son's hospital bills. I get it, that's a

706
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.079
<v Speaker 2>big trait to make. But he has nothing else other

707
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.400
<v Speaker 2>than that. Yeah, I mean maybe one foot in the

708
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>grade with one foot the grave, and.

709
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's the Salt Lake City reference.

710
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 2>There.

711
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Bless you, Angie for that line. Angie, that's gonna live

712
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>in my head for the rest of my life. Yep,

713
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:39.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just so you don't buy it at any point.

714
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>And then she's like, why did you bring me? Because

715
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>she's trying to get him to say.

716
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>You like me, which you know she needs that validation, yeah, which.

717
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>He already just said, Hey, I'm taking antidepressants. Kind I

718
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 1>want it because I want to fuck you so bad.

719
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>But she wants more than that, so she's like, why

720
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.079
<v Speaker 1>did you bring me? And then he says, well, I

721
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 1>was kind of hoping you'd sleep with Simons, so he

722
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be gay anymore, which is not why he brought her.

723
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>No, and it's not funny and it's too funny. It's

724
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 2>a stupid line. And like you still don't like Simon

725
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:10.639
<v Speaker 2>after all of this, Like seriously, you don't have any

726
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.239
<v Speaker 2>affection for him whatsoever, all the shit Simon's been.

727
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Through, yeah, which you clearly do, because they've established it.

728
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>He does like he's got him soup and he's walking

729
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the dog and like you know, all this stuff, but

730
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, So then she's like fuck you. Then like

731
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 1>goes back to the hotel and decides to sleep in

732
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Simon's room, because again that's what a normal person does, right.

733
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 1>They go and they sleep in a room that's not

734
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 1>their room, and she.

735
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Takes her clothes up as she's walking in, like I'm

736
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna take a shower and order some food. Is that okay? Yeah?

737
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, He's like, yeah, she has her own room,

738
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 1>like right, but whatever, because you know it has to

739
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 1>be that way because we need Simon to have his

740
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>aha moment where he sees like a nearly nude Helen

741
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Hunt getting in the tub and she he's like, draw

742
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>me like one of your French girls, and then you know,

743
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 1>so he's inspired and he draws a bunch of stuff

744
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 1>and then here comes Jongerlesen. It's like, and no, he's gay, dude,

745
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>he's gay.

746
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 2>He didn't and and and just Jesus, dude, like, just

747
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>get a grip. Just I mean, the entitlement is just

748
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>off the chain. It's just the toxic masculinity of this person.

749
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.039
<v Speaker 2>And just he's just toxic in every single way.

750
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's And so they've made this trip

751
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:43.599
<v Speaker 1>though for no fucking reason, because Grey ken Hearn never

752
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>goes to see his parents because he well, now that

753
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I can draw again, everything will be fine.

754
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's gonna live with Jack Nicholson, right, He's gonna

755
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 2>live in the guest room because he's lost his apartment.

756
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so then Jack Nicholson's like again super shitty to

757
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>him all the time. And it's still like, you can

758
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 1>totally stay in my apartment even though I supposedly have

759
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>OCD and.

760
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't handle anything.

761
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I can't handle anything that's different, but go ahead live

762
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 1>with me. So like he lives with him, And because

763
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Simon is going to live with Melboyn, then Carol's like,

764
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's not so bad again again, Carol's like, maybe

765
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 1>he's not so bad. And I just wrote in my notes,

766
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.079
<v Speaker 1>why is she trying to make fetch happen? Like it's

767
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen.

768
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>This is But it's like we all know women, we

769
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.519
<v Speaker 2>all know people sorry, oh my god, we know people

770
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>like this that continually. But the thing is it's frustrating

771
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 2>and annoying. I don't need to see this in my movie.

772
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I have this in my life. Yeah, ready, people making

773
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 2>very bad choices and then constantly like I don't know,

774
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 2>we keep trying to work it out, but I I'm like,

775
00:41:59.400 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 2>it's not.

776
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Gonna Yeah, there's only so much you could do. So

777
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.039
<v Speaker 1>like again, she calls him and she's like maybe I

778
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 1>do I mean with you, and then he says something

779
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and she's like never mind and like hangs up. And

780
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 1>then Simon's like, yeah, but you do really like her,

781
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 1>so maybe you should go over there right now and

782
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 1>tell her how much you love her. And it's like yeah,

783
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Simon, you're a shitty friend. You're a

784
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>shitty friend. Simon, you're shitty to Helen Hunt for this

785
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and you're being shitty. Yeah, niggles in for this and

786
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>so Melvin goes over to see Carol and she's like,

787
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>why can't I have a normal boyfriend? And it's like,

788
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:39.559
<v Speaker 1>why is he?

789
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Your picker is obviously off. Yeah, the problem Carol.

790
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>You could have a normal boyfriend you don't absolutely have.

791
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 2>You're cute, you're young, you have a nice home and

792
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a nice neighborhood. Nobody could afford. That's really cute, by

793
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the way, But I mean, you've got stuff going for you,

794
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I think, and I do know people we have friends

795
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 2>that are like single pair's that kind of feel like

796
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 2>they're damaged good sometimes in the dating scene just because

797
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>there's like you have a lot of baggage with you,

798
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and so I can understand feeling like, oh man, is

799
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 2>this ever gonna happen? Well, I meet somebody, But like,

800
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 2>what does she need? What does she want from her life?

801
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>What does she what does she want?

802
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>She is again we're watching we know nothing about her,

803
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 1>We're watching her convince herself that this is the best

804
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna get, this is as good as it gets.

805
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And her mom basically comes out and says like, no

806
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>relationship's perfect. You should settle, And it's like a big

807
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>aha moment, Like, ah, I should settle. Thanks mom for

808
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the great advice.

809
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 2>It's so.

810
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Fucking stupid.

811
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.400
<v Speaker 2>It's fucking stupid. And then he comes over to the

812
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.360
<v Speaker 2>apartment and then they're gonna walk to their next date

813
00:43:56.559 --> 00:43:58.800
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. They're gonna walk around windsor Terrace.

814
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're gonna walk, walk and walk in. They're going

815
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to walk to a bakery. She's in her pajamas again,

816
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 1>no bra, and it's very distracting, and like he again

817
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>says something stupid, and she's like, you need to give

818
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>me a compliment. And he's like, I'm the only one

819
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:25.519
<v Speaker 1>who thinks you're the greatest woman alive. That's his compliment,

820
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 1>which is what a fucked up, toxic ever way.

821
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I want you no one else because you're so crazy,

822
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>because you're so difficult. You're lucky to have me because

823
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm the only one who sees you yes, and appreciates you,

824
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 2>which is what an abusive, manipulative, narcissistic shit bag would

825
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:47.320
<v Speaker 2>do would.

826
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:51.519
<v Speaker 1>And then at the end, like as they're walking to

827
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the pastry shop, he's he's noticing, we've noticed now that

828
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>he's stepping on all the cracks because guess what, love

829
00:44:59.480 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>is all you.

830
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>That is all you need.

831
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 1>To get over OCD. He's see, he's fine now.

832
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Just needed the right woman who's willing to give up

833
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>all of her standards. When you find one that will

834
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 2>lower all of their standards to accept, you, go for it.

835
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's gonna lower all of her standards, and she's

836
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>got that magic pussy that's gonna make it all better.

837
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>And she's cured your OCD and all your mental health issues.

838
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Like this movie is bullshit.

839
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 2>This movie fucking sucks. It's it's awful. It's terrible about people.

840
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 2>It's terrible about New York. It's terrible about relationships. It's

841
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:46.079
<v Speaker 2>terrible about Baltimore. It's terrible about the dog. It's terrible

842
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 2>in hospitals. Like, it's terrible in every way. There's not

843
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 2>one character, not one that I was like, oh, I

844
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.920
<v Speaker 2>think I know that. Sorry. The one date she does

845
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 2>have with that really cute guy guy I recognize, Like, yeah,

846
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:03.719
<v Speaker 2>he'll put up with vomit on his shirt from the

847
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 2>sun in order to get laid like he's like, I

848
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 2>get him. Yeah, everybody else nobody talks like a person. No,

849
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 2>and I don't. And once again, like I watched twin

850
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Peaks for hours last week, Like I don't need that necessarily,

851
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 2>but it should be artistic. It should be there's like,

852
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand what the messaging is here. It's just

853
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.920
<v Speaker 2>promoting mediocrity in relationships.

854
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's as good as it gets, right, Like, that's

855
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 1>what it's right there in the title, like you should settle,

856
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>try settling. Have you tried settling? That's the alternate title.

857
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, it's it's it doesn't you're talking to this sixty

858
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 2>year old in cel rage aholic. Yes, asshole that has

859
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 2>no charm. That is just and he's he's just old

860
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 2>enough to be old, but not old enough to die soon,

861
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:05.920
<v Speaker 2>so he's just gonna be around for a long time.

862
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 2>It's just there's nothing. I don't care about her. I

863
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 2>don't care about him. I barely care about the son

864
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 2>or her grandmother. They're just plot conveniences.

865
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yep, they're just.

866
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yugaguding Junior. He's doing a thing like he's fine, but

867
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>it's just like once again, the script is terrible.

868
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was right after like Jerry. This was a

869
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.119
<v Speaker 1>year after Jerry maguire. So he's already won an Oscar, right,

870
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe he wasn't an Oscar winner when he did this movie.

871
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 1>He's certainly bringing a lot of energy. I'll say that

872
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>he does that. That's him, he's actually doing He's bringing

873
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.599
<v Speaker 1>something a little different than what everyone else is doing.

874
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm fine with it.

875
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, but I am too, I am too. It's

876
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.400
<v Speaker 2>just but then, like when you look at it, and

877
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 2>like Greg kennear, Jack Nicholson, Helen Hunt got Oscar nominations

878
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 2>for the performances in this I I would have you

879
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 2>know what, I'd be that happier with Kate Winslet Wednesday

880
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:08.320
<v Speaker 2>winning that over her. I think she's doing more in

881
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 2>that movie, and she has a more believable accent and

882
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 2>everything else. Yes, this movie, she's just Helen Hunt's character

883
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 2>is just miserable and put upon and just lashes out

884
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 2>in weird ways and like it has no standards, just seriously,

885
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:27.760
<v Speaker 2>no standards.

886
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I might be harder on her now than I was

887
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 1>on this role. I should say this role not Helen

888
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Hunt per se, because I am a single mom with

889
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>a special needs son and I see what she's doing

890
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 1>here and I was like, it makes me mad to watch.

891
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, what the fuck are you doing?

892
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:55.599
<v Speaker 1>Like you let's let's say, okay, this man shows up

893
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and he pays the hospital bills, and now your son

894
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>is actually like healthy and like starting to live a

895
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>normal life. And then you get this like time back

896
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.239
<v Speaker 1>almost like that you this energy that you can pour

897
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.079
<v Speaker 1>into yourself and improve your life, and instead she decides

898
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.559
<v Speaker 1>to pour it into Jack Nicholson.

899
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I'm who has special needs and and she

900
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 2>has to give up herself in order to feel better

901
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 2>about herself. She has to and it's I fucking hate

902
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:32.159
<v Speaker 2>this movie so much hated.

903
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when Roger Ebert wrote that review of

904
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 1>North and he's like, I hated, hated.

905
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Hate, hated this movie.

906
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I hate it, And like I go on letterbox and

907
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I see like lots of people are like three stars,

908
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 3>three stars, five star, five star AMTV, and I'm like,

909
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 3>not for me, this is oh my god, is this

910
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 3>the new Meet the Parents?

911
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Where like everyone loves it except for it could be

912
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:58.079
<v Speaker 1>so bad.

913
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.199
<v Speaker 2>I did the IMDb and it was the same thing.

914
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I went to look at the reviews and for the

915
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 2>original at the original time that it came out, and

916
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 2>there were people who called out the shit you and

917
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I are talking about. Okay, good, But Roger Eber gave

918
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 2>it three stars. Yeah, yeah, it all got like these

919
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 2>seventy eighty percent eighty percent tile you know, positive reviews,

920
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm it boggles my mind. It's just like

921
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:25.920
<v Speaker 2>every once in a while, Hollywood gets behind a movie

922
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that they've decided is really important and everybody needs to

923
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 2>see it and it's accessible to anyone, you know, it's nothing,

924
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and then so we're all supposed to like it and

925
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:42.079
<v Speaker 2>it's just fucking garbage. It's just hot garbage. It is garbage.

926
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Another good example of this, go back and listen to

927
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 1>our episode on Crash Yeah.

928
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Or American Beauty.

929
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh, American Beauty is an even better example. Good call out, Margo. Yeah,

930
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>so this movie nominated for seven Oscars. I thought you

931
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 1>might like to hear some of the other yes, please, Okay,

932
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 1>let's start with Best Actress, because Helen Hunt actually won

933
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>for this lol one one that accent. Yes, I think

934
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 1>there's I think there's a clear person I would have

935
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 1>voted for over her in this category. So, Kate Winslet

936
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:33.039
<v Speaker 1>was nominated for Titanic, Judy Dench for Missus Brown I've

937
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>never seen it. I've never seen it. Julie Christi for

938
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>After Glow, I've never seen it. Helen Bonham Carter for

939
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the Wings of the Dove. I haven't seen that one either,

940
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and then Helen Hunt wins I.

941
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Would have given it. Kate Winslet he too, Yeah, he too.

942
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I think she's great at Titanic. I think the movie

943
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:56.920
<v Speaker 2>sits on her shoulders. I mean, we're supposed to think

944
00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 2>about Leonardo DiCaprio, but I think it's her and I

945
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:03.440
<v Speaker 2>care about her character. I'm on her journey with her.

946
00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 2>I root for her. I yeah, yeah, for sure.

947
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.519
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Leonardo Dicapro wasn't even nominated for Titanic,

948
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>which is fucking bonkers.

949
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 2>That's if that that sucks?

950
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like yeah, if you nominate her like that, yeah, yeah,

951
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. So Jack Nicholson wins for Best

952
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 1>for Best, he is.

953
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Not good in this movie, y'all.

954
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Nope, I don't like it. So other nominees Matt Damon

955
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 1>for Goodwill Hunting he was good in that. He's very

956
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>good in that. Robert Duvall for The Apostle.

957
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>He's really good in that. That's a great movie.

958
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Peter Fonda for Julie's Gold.

959
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Such a boring movie, but but he's nice. I've worked

960
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 2>with him on that.

961
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh, Peter Fonda side note, everybody, Peter Fonda is

962
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:56.119
<v Speaker 1>one of the actors in Thomas and the Magic Railroad,

963
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>which is a Thomas the Tank Engine movie. It is

964
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 1>bananas to me that Peter Fonda isn't it. And he's

965
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.079
<v Speaker 1>like in a totally different movie than everyone else, And

966
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.599
<v Speaker 1>he's so serious and looks like he's gonna cry at

967
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:12.119
<v Speaker 1>any moment, and everyone else was like, oh my god.

968
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It's dumb.

969
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Is the whacking reil? It's weird.

970
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I worked with him on his autobiography and a friend

971
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:24.119
<v Speaker 2>of mine worked at Sundance for Julie's Goals. She worked

972
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>for that movie, and she she's said the funniest thing

973
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>she said was like she was taking him to parties

974
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 2>in Sundance, like she had to esport him, and one

975
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of the parties like they didn't recognize his name or

976
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't recognize him, and they were kind of giving him

977
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 2>a hard time, and she said, Peter Fonder just said

978
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 2>whoa abstract power trip, which I was funny and cool.

979
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 2>That is cool. He's kind of a hippie.

980
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:53.000
<v Speaker 1>So Greg kinnear nominated for As Good as It Gets

981
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>for Best Supporting Actor.

982
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 2>He's fine.

983
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's fine, but the no on this is

984
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 1>a tough category. Actually, Burt Reynolds was nominated for Boogie Knights.

985
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:05.000
<v Speaker 2>He was good in that. Yep.

986
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Hopkins for Amistad.

987
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Never saw that. I didn't see it. This one is.

988
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 1>These last two are tough. Robert Forrester for Jackie Brown,

989
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 1>he's last good. But the winners Robin Williams for good

990
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Will Hunting.

991
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, I got a hand to him though. He's

992
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 2>really good in that movie. And he is also is

993
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.840
<v Speaker 2>like an anchor in that movie. I think he really is.

994
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.599
<v Speaker 1>And I you know, we can't say bad things about

995
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Robin Williams, but Robert Forrester is real, real good.

996
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:35.519
<v Speaker 2>And Jackie Brown.

997
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was nominated for Best Picture. It did not

998
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>win Titanic One, but also nominated The Full Monty.

999
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Like that's a great movie.

1000
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Goodwill Hunting and La Confidential great movies.

1001
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Those are all really good movies.

1002
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then did it wasn't nominated. It was also

1003
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>nominated for Screenplay Stop but it did not win. Goodwill

1004
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Hunting won but also nomin christ Boogie Nights, which yes, yeah,

1005
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>definitely constructing Harry the Woody Allen movie.

1006
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you.

1007
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 1>And then the Fool Monty, which is also that's a

1008
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:21.159
<v Speaker 1>cute movie. Yeah, and then I think that was probably

1009
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>everything else for that movie.

1010
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:27.159
<v Speaker 2>All right, So here's the top ten. So this was

1011
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:32.239
<v Speaker 2>this movie came out on Christmas. Yay, it came out

1012
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Christmas nineteen ninety seven. So and I don't know half

1013
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:38.840
<v Speaker 2>these songs. You're gonna have to help me some of these.

1014
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 2>So number ten, My Love is the sh something for

1015
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the People featuring Trina and tomorrow I got nothing or Tamera.

1016
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, sorry, I think I know the song. It's

1017
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Savage Garden number nine, truly Madly, deeply Savage Garden.

1018
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know that one.

1019
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Number eight show Me Love by Robin. Oh, I know

1020
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:00.519
<v Speaker 2>that one.

1021
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 1>That's a good one.

1022
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Number seven Feels So Good by Mace.

1023
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's the one that it's samples something a shit.

1024
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, anyway, yes, I know that song. I can't

1025
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 1>remember what it samples though, if.

1026
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.880
<v Speaker 2>You, okay, you'd be like, oh yeah, Number six My

1027
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Body by LSG. No, I don't know that one. Number

1028
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 2>five all about the Benjamin's Puff Daddy and the family.

1029
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>That's a good song. He's a creep, but that's a

1030
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 2>great song that documentary. Yeah, he's a lunatic. But number

1031
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 2>four this is a great song Janet Jackson together again.

1032
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I love that one.

1033
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Number three Usher you make me wanna Yeah, m hm.

1034
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Number two this is a song you Couldn't escape Leanne rhymes,

1035
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.920
<v Speaker 2>how do how Do I Live? Oh? My god? What

1036
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:51.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it?

1037
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.239
<v Speaker 1>It was in con Air right con Air?

1038
00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a great movie.

1039
00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a good song.

1040
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 2>And number one Candle the Wind nineteen ninety seven Elton John.

1041
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<v Speaker 1>I know I don't listen to that.

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00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't either. Nobody is it's a little schlocky. I

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00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 2>mean it's it's for Princess Die but but yeah, but

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00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 2>it's a little shocky. Yeah.

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00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:18.719
<v Speaker 1>What else are you dorky out about?

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<v Speaker 2>My friend? You know? Not that much. There wasn't there's been.

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00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 2>It's been kind of slow with the with the shows.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the one I was watching about Huxley HBO

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00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Max or it's called Max Now. It's a documentary and

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00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>it was about this couple that was a YouTube family

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00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 2>channel and they adopt. It's a and I think they're Mormon,

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00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 2>they're religious, they they adopt. Yeah, sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Yeah. So they they adopt a child from Asia.

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00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure where, maybe he's Chinese, China, Chinese, China, China.

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00:57:57.360 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>He uh. They adopt this kid and they bring him

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00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to the family and then he's like the star of

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00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the videos, and then all of a sudden, he's not

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00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 2>in their videos anymore. And then they said, oh, we

1059
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>had to rehome it like oh god, these people suck. Yeah,

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00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's about like it's all about the business of

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00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:20.119
<v Speaker 2>like family vloggers and you know, how much is too

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00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>much and what people and uh yeah these people wow. Yeah,

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00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but that kid went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Its bananas story because there's three episodes, and the first

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00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>one is like here's the rise of the Staffer family,

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00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Like this is how they they're in the like family

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00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>vlogging sphere, and they also interview all these people who

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00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.280
<v Speaker 1>watch family vlogs and like why and explain why they

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00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.199
<v Speaker 1>watched them where they're like, hey, like I was pregnant

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00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and she was pregnant at the same time, and a

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00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 1>lot of my friends and family weren't pregnant, so I

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00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:59.000
<v Speaker 1>felt like, I don't know, we were on the same

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00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 1>journey together. Or I'm raising kids and I'm trying to

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00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>learn things blah blah blah whatever. So we try to

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00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:07.679
<v Speaker 1>understand why people are watching these things. And then we

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00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:12.039
<v Speaker 1>start meeting these people that also make these kinds of logs,

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00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:16.559
<v Speaker 1>and we see kind of the the path the staffer

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00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.159
<v Speaker 1>families on, like it starts small and it gets really big,

1079
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 1>and there's all these sponsorships and she has like two kids,

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00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:26.679
<v Speaker 1>I think, and then I think she's trying for a

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00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:30.119
<v Speaker 1>bird and like or a fourth and like it's not happening.

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00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.559
<v Speaker 1>So then she's like, I'm we should adopt. We're going

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00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to adopt from China. So they start documenting that whole

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<v Speaker 1>journey and then they and I know.

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<v Speaker 2>People who have adopted to China, like it's a huge undertaking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>international adoptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, god, I know I know people who have

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<v Speaker 1>adopted internationally as well. Yeah, and I know that some

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<v Speaker 1>people have also, like the children tend to have like

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00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 1>more special needs than Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dramatic, which is not people. I think that's object

1092
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:03.079
<v Speaker 2>people should be more well aware of. Yeah, but yeah,

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01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a very traumatic thing with this one because they

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01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>give him an American kind of name. I mean, they

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01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 2>they I guess they're just blending him into the family.

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01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he has some issues, and then you're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, well, what were they and and then you

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01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:19.679
<v Speaker 2>find out that he was sucking his thumb. So they

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01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 2>did a thing where they duct taped his thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they like, yeah, there was a whole thing where

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<v Speaker 1>like at one point they have like a thumb brace

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and like people are like, there there's very

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01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:34.880
<v Speaker 1>differing opinions about the thumbrace where it's like some people

1104
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:38.000
<v Speaker 1>are like, that's fucked up, and then other people are like, well,

1105
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 1>their teeth are coming in and if they're sucking their thumbs,

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01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:42.320
<v Speaker 1>they can like really fuck up their teeth.

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01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 2>So that's what braces are for, y'all. I mean my

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01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.920
<v Speaker 2>brother had the same thing. He was a thumb sucker

1109
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and fucking taping his fucking hand.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, we don't take like especially these are dun

1111
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.480
<v Speaker 4>too also and exactly, and then there's one there's one

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01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:01.840
<v Speaker 4>video they showed where she's like, oh, he's going to

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01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:02.880
<v Speaker 4>a speech therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was somebody charging me five hundred dollars, So

1115
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that's too much. So we're gonna get somebody only charged

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01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars for having I'm like, you make so much money.

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01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.480
<v Speaker 2>They're always showing off their house and everything they have.

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01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:18.719
<v Speaker 1>She's marrying like a really fancy like yeah cardiate braceleism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, it's really I mean these people suck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really icky. So they you see the rise

1121
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and you see the views go up, right, and then

1122
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.920
<v Speaker 1>he it turns out he's a lot more work than

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01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:36.320
<v Speaker 1>they They just paid it. Then they anticipated that they wanted,

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01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like at some point they're even talking

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<v Speaker 1>about adopting again, and it's like they're you are if

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01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I tried to extend a little empathy, I'm like, babe,

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01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 1>they really do want to adopt, but I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. It's for the views. They they saw their

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01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.119
<v Speaker 1>views go way up when they did this, and they

1130
01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.400
<v Speaker 1>made a shit ton of money off of it, and

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01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they want to do it again and they're getting ready

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01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to do that, and then all of a sudden, like

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01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Huxley just disappears, and like you see them start making

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01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all their con like his stuff private, right, and they're

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01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:15.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of and people are commenting like where is he?

1136
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And they're like deleting the comments. And that's really scary

1137
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:20.599
<v Speaker 1>because people were.

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<v Speaker 2>Like where is he?

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01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Like what's wrong? Like did something happen to him blah

1140
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:29.320
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, like people start calling the police to like

1141
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:30.360
<v Speaker 1>do wellness checks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, because you think about it, because

1143
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:34.280
<v Speaker 2>some of those kids are really being abused, they have

1144
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to be hailed a brand in Utah yep, right with

1145
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:40.599
<v Speaker 2>her kids. I mean that that they sent the police

1146
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:42.440
<v Speaker 2>there and they didn't even do anything. It took like

1147
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 2>the kid had to run away to get help. But yeah,

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01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean these but also it's I mean you, you

1149
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and I are of that generation like of people raising

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01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:55.039
<v Speaker 2>their kids on vlogs and on you know, first off

1151
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:57.000
<v Speaker 2>the blog of blogg is Fear and now the vlog

1152
01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.199
<v Speaker 2>is Fear and having their own having their podcasts and

1153
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:02.039
<v Speaker 2>all their TikTok videos and shit, and people see like

1154
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:05.079
<v Speaker 2>you can make great money at it, but you have

1155
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to get the views, and so what is it? And

1156
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.800
<v Speaker 2>she started she was like really into cleaning, and so

1157
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 2>she did all these cleaning videos. But then and then parenting,

1158
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and then her husband was a fix it guy, like

1159
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:19.280
<v Speaker 2>it's garage and stuff. And then they noticed that people

1160
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:22.159
<v Speaker 2>like the parenting stuff and they were like, well, we're

1161
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.960
<v Speaker 2>looking to expand our family anyway, so what if we adopt, well,

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01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.239
<v Speaker 2>we should do it on camera and I and it's

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01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know any case we're going

1164
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to find out. I think that it's really messed up

1165
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to make a living off your family like this, because

1166
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:41.480
<v Speaker 2>it show business families they have that too, and it's

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01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:42.039
<v Speaker 2>not great.

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01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not great. And I think a lot of

1169
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 1>these kids are going to start hitting eighteen, like any

1170
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 1>second now, and they're going to start telling their stories

1171
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think we're going to learn a lot. But

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01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the whole idea with Huxley was they they they even

1173
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.639
<v Speaker 1>used the term rehomed, and I was like, that's kind

1174
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:05.039
<v Speaker 1>of how you.

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01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Talk about pets. I don't know that you talk about

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01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:07.800
<v Speaker 2>a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was like, I don't like that, Like

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01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:18.599
<v Speaker 1>that's and I I personally don't understand how you just

1179
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:26.360
<v Speaker 1>bye bye. Like they had a lot of resources at

1180
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 1>their hands, like they made a lot of money, and

1181
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 1>it seemed to me that they were like, had a

1182
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:34.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of resources they could have provided him, And it

1183
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:38.039
<v Speaker 1>just came down to we don't want to.

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01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:42.360
<v Speaker 2>That's too hard. It's too hard, That's what it is.

1185
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.800
<v Speaker 2>It's too hard. And if he were their natural son,

1186
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:49.239
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't have any recourse. But because he was adopted.

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01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 2>They just kind of want to rescind the offer or whatever.

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01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:56.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's which is I mean, I hope he's okay.

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01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:58.880
<v Speaker 2>That's my thing, Like I hope wherever he is, I

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01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 2>hope he's okay. I can it feels like he was

1191
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>abandoned twice, right, I mean, we're to China and then here,

1192
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean Jesus, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really sad. And they do interview someone else who

1194
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 1>also adopted. Someone adopted a daughter who I think had

1195
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:17.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Of mean yeah, like special needs and mental health issues.

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01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and her first adoption, that child had a lot

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01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.559
<v Speaker 1>of special needs, and she is, you know, seems to

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01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.079
<v Speaker 1>be fine. They have interviews with her, and she's still

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01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:34.440
<v Speaker 1>with them, But then they adopted another one and that

1201
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:38.360
<v Speaker 1>child had more needs than they anticipated, and they basically

1202
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:42.519
<v Speaker 1>had to like quote unquote rehome that child. And she's like,

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01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of empathy for the Stoffers, and.

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01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we don't know everything, of course, yeah, And

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01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know what, if we're gonna I would

1206
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:56.280
<v Speaker 2>have liked them to dig a little deeper into that then,

1207
01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:58.920
<v Speaker 2>so that I could have a little bit more understanding

1208
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:03.119
<v Speaker 2>into maybe how the stoppers got where they got right,

1209
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.239
<v Speaker 2>because I I can't understand it.

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01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:09.719
<v Speaker 1>And even with that one interview from that one woman,

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01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I still don't really get it. I

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01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.719
<v Speaker 1>don't get it, and I know and and a lot.

1213
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Of people are really really upset about it, as they

1214
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:18.480
<v Speaker 2>should have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and some of those people that got really

1216
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:23.559
<v Speaker 1>upset or honestly, they're just men who want to get

1217
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:25.440
<v Speaker 1>on the internet and be shitty to women. Yeah, they

1218
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:29.920
<v Speaker 1>directed all their anger at the mom and I right now,

1219
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 1>there's there's two parents here, Like, these were just men

1220
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:35.960
<v Speaker 1>who wanted to be like, fucker, she's the fucking worst,

1221
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:40.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, you don't have any of that anger

1222
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:43.679
<v Speaker 1>for the dad. I noticed like some dudes just like

1223
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the Pylon.

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01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, I saw that there's three episodes.

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01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 1>And then it's a tough watch.

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01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:52.239
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough it was a tough watch, and it

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01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 2>was Yeah, and then there's on Disney or Hulu they

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01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:00.639
<v Speaker 2>have Scamanda and that's O. Yes. So you and I

1229
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:05.599
<v Speaker 2>had Charlie Webster. She was the she's the host and

1230
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the producer we had. She had a podcast that came

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01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.079
<v Speaker 2>out last the summer of twenty three. I think it

1232
01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:11.800
<v Speaker 2>was and you and I had her on our show

1233
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.440
<v Speaker 2>and she was great, she was so nice. Yes, but

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01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 2>this is this is like a formal produced documentary and

1235
01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:21.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just the first part that's at out now. But

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01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:25.679
<v Speaker 2>once again, rage baiting. It's like somebody who fakes having

1237
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:32.719
<v Speaker 2>cancer in order to get attention, and it's it's mind boggling,

1238
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:34.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's also just it tells you how much as

1239
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:38.079
<v Speaker 2>human beings we trust other people. Yeah, how much trust

1240
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:41.679
<v Speaker 2>we have in other people, and we assume so much

1241
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 2>goodness in them, and we assume they're telling the truth

1242
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:47.119
<v Speaker 2>to us, and we assume all these things, and when

1243
01:07:47.199 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 2>somebody just takes advantage of you, it's it's such Yeah.

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01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.280
<v Speaker 2>But rail that one is on my list for sure,

1245
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and I know it's gonna piss me off all over. Yeah,

1246
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:00.880
<v Speaker 2>but those are the those are the things I'm jorking

1247
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 2>out about it. In addition, we'll talk about the other stuff.

1248
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I uh, update about our family was also on

1249
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:14.000
<v Speaker 1>my list. And then I have started American American Manhunt

1250
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:15.079
<v Speaker 1>OJ Simpson.

1251
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I couldn't do that one.

1252
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't imagine I'm going to learn anything new. Yeah,

1253
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:24.920
<v Speaker 1>because you know, by the way, if you haven't seen

1254
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it made in America. The OJ Simpson made in America. Yeah,

1255
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 1>is like the fucking best. Like it is so good

1256
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:41.399
<v Speaker 1>at explaining like everything that happened before, everything that happened after,

1257
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like the whole case. It gave context, so much context,

1258
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:49.840
<v Speaker 1>so good. So this isn't really gonna do that, I

1259
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.319
<v Speaker 1>don't think. But I was like, I'm still gonna watch it.

1260
01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:54.520
<v Speaker 1>So I had it on while I was doing my laundry,

1261
01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:59.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's fine. I like those Netflix true crime documentaries.

1262
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, say you know, but the case is so fucked up.

1263
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 2>It's so fucked up.

1264
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Surprise what else? Much like the same as you. I

1265
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:15.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't been watching too much stuff because the world.

1266
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Is too much. Yeah, I'm sticking to things that I

1267
01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 2>already watch and like my comfort viewing.

1268
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been playing YouTube clips and stuff. I've been

1269
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:25.359
<v Speaker 1>playing video games a lot.

1270
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1271
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:27.920
<v Speaker 1>It requires me to not look at my phone and

1272
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 1>read the news. So and I think I talked about

1273
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that and our bonus up for what a creep. But

1274
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:36.119
<v Speaker 1>I've been playing a game called Wildflowers, where you work

1275
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:40.319
<v Speaker 1>on a farm at your grandma's farm and your witch

1276
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 1>at night. And then I've also been playing Hello Kitty

1277
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Island Adventure, which is very cute, very wholesome, very distracting.

1278
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:52.920
<v Speaker 1>And then of course I have been watching and I

1279
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.560
<v Speaker 1>know you have been watching Real Housewives of Salt.

1280
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Lake City, which is and there. It just had a

1281
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:02.680
<v Speaker 2>fantastic season and now they're right now. They just finished

1282
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:06.159
<v Speaker 2>two of the three part episodes for the reunions, and

1283
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:10.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the best show in television. I'm sorry, Like this

1284
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 2>is the case where people also say things and do

1285
01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:15.000
<v Speaker 2>things that I would never do, but it's so entertaining,

1286
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:18.399
<v Speaker 2>which is the difference.

1287
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they're doing it.

1288
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:22.680
<v Speaker 2>But they're doing it, but like you believe them, you

1289
01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.159
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like they believe their own bullshit.

1290
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:28.720
<v Speaker 2>They're all completely believing their own bullshit. So it's so entertaining.

1291
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 1>It's so entertaining. And also like they all just like

1292
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 1>fucking yell at each other. It's like white. Yes, it's

1293
01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:35.880
<v Speaker 1>very relaxing.

1294
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I love the pictures I was looking on social media.

1295
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:41.960
<v Speaker 2>They're like the this couch just shares one brain and

1296
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:45.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like Heather and Meredith and Lisa and those two

1297
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.520
<v Speaker 2>husbands of theirs. Yeah, it's one of those Like I

1298
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:50.600
<v Speaker 2>get so mad because they're all screaming at each other,

1299
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, I get annoyed with people. And then

1300
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:56.479
<v Speaker 2>they go to Mary's story, which is Mary's who married

1301
01:10:56.479 --> 01:11:00.319
<v Speaker 2>her grandfather, her step grandfather, but anyway, her son had

1302
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:03.119
<v Speaker 2>a drug issue and she talked about they talked about

1303
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:04.920
<v Speaker 2>it on the air, and they put sent them to rehab.

1304
01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:08.760
<v Speaker 2>And I was sobbing my eyes out, like I know

1305
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 2>this story and this is not a news story, but

1306
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:15.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of yeah, but a lot of she just

1307
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:19.439
<v Speaker 2>Mary has that weird ability to just like you pay

1308
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:22.039
<v Speaker 2>attention to her, and she could be mean. Sometimes she

1309
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 2>can be really nasty, but then she can also just

1310
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:29.560
<v Speaker 2>be so kind and silly and present, and she just

1311
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the and all of them were sobbing, except for Meredith. Right,

1312
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:35.760
<v Speaker 2>all of them were like crying when she was talking

1313
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 2>about her son, but it was really and Andy was crying,

1314
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:39.439
<v Speaker 2>which never happens.

1315
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't figure out they kept showing Meredith, and I

1316
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.560
<v Speaker 1>was of two minds here because Meredith is just sitting

1317
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:48.119
<v Speaker 1>there staring. Actually I was of three minds, one where

1318
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, maybe she's had so much botox

1319
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:53.199
<v Speaker 1>that yeah, you know, But then the other one was

1320
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.680
<v Speaker 1>was was she jealous of Mary? And Angie's friendship or

1321
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.439
<v Speaker 1>is she jealous that Mary's getting all this love and attention.

1322
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It's both of those things. Yeah, they all are jealous

1323
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:08.640
<v Speaker 2>because they want that attention, because they all want to

1324
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:10.640
<v Speaker 2>be the hero of the show. And then on top

1325
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.479
<v Speaker 2>of that Mary. At one point, Ron Whin said something

1326
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:15.920
<v Speaker 2>and Mary goes, that's why she's the fan favorite because

1327
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.840
<v Speaker 2>she gives the most and you knew that's stuck in

1328
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:22.239
<v Speaker 2>all their collective craws, which she said that they all

1329
01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:25.000
<v Speaker 2>want to be the star of the show. And Mary

1330
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:29.560
<v Speaker 2>does it effortlessly, like seriously, there's no there's no guile

1331
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 2>about her. She just reacts. She shows up in a

1332
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:35.119
<v Speaker 2>scene and reacts, and you never know what you're gonna get.

1333
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.800
<v Speaker 2>And she is so funny. I mean, she could be

1334
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 2>really mean, but she goes to be so so funny,

1335
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 2>just really and no bullshit. I love the fact that

1336
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 2>she just does, Like, you do something that pisses her off,

1337
01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:50.079
<v Speaker 2>she will let you know and she's not gonna let

1338
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:52.560
<v Speaker 2>you just walk away with it. Like she demands that

1339
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:54.439
<v Speaker 2>you act, you behave yourself. And I love that.

1340
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I like people like I actually tend to me too.

1341
01:12:57.640 --> 01:12:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I tend to have a lot of people like that

1342
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:04.119
<v Speaker 1>my life because I'm and other people find those kinds

1343
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:07.479
<v Speaker 1>of people abrasive. I don't at all. I'm like, no,

1344
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate, I know where I stand always yes with

1345
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:15.800
<v Speaker 1>those people like I appreciate that about them, and they

1346
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.239
<v Speaker 1>tend it's so funny because they don't often get very

1347
01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:19.880
<v Speaker 1>mad at me, these people that I have in my

1348
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 1>life because I do always I'm always I always have

1349
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:28.239
<v Speaker 1>good intentions, but like if something I do comes across wrong,

1350
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:31.479
<v Speaker 1>they'll say, like, well that didn't come out right right,

1351
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.439
<v Speaker 1>call me on it, and I'm all, thank you, Like

1352
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. So I appreciate that. And I think

1353
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:42.119
<v Speaker 1>that Mary was just much warmer this season. I think

1354
01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:44.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe Angie brought that out in her. Well, they talk

1355
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:48.399
<v Speaker 1>about it. She says, like that friendship with Angie and

1356
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the trust that she has with Angie made her feel

1357
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:52.600
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable to like.

1358
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:55.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, Meredith got really jealous for that.

1359
01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and but I could see you could see it.

1360
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:01.960
<v Speaker 1>And she was just more fun this season, like doing

1361
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the zip line and all the stuff with Robert Jr.

1362
01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Really opening up and just how funny she is when

1363
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:13.000
<v Speaker 1>she wants to be like, yeah, I really really appreciate.

1364
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:15.159
<v Speaker 1>She was such a star. Her and Angie were such

1365
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:17.319
<v Speaker 1>stars this season. Yeah, that's why they get to sit

1366
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 1>next to Andy.

1367
01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:23.000
<v Speaker 2>They were on the cool couch. The other couch was ridiculous.

1368
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:28.680
<v Speaker 2>It was it was ridiculous. It's entertaining, it's it's so

1369
01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:32.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the fact that it's real reality TV like

1370
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:34.960
<v Speaker 2>these are. They're not. They're just improving like they're not.

1371
01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:38.199
<v Speaker 2>There's no script like they just are reacting and the

1372
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:40.520
<v Speaker 2>way they do it and they're so good at it.

1373
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:46.920
<v Speaker 1>And the editing. The editing on the show is unbelievable. Oh,

1374
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:49.239
<v Speaker 1>they come with her seats always.

1375
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Meredith's just going on and on about Monica from

1376
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:57.000
<v Speaker 2>last season. You know that's when Andy hated Meredith, right

1377
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.640
<v Speaker 2>because she she was like, play the clips and now

1378
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:01.319
<v Speaker 2>they all do that. Now play the clips and then

1379
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the booth has to look for the clip for the

1380
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:07.039
<v Speaker 2>thing that you know, nothing makes Meredith happy like she's

1381
01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:09.159
<v Speaker 2>She always says like, I have a sense of humor.

1382
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 2>You can laugh at me, I can blah blah blahah.

1383
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I just and it's like, no, you don't. You are humorless.

1384
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:17.760
<v Speaker 2>You take yourself very seriously. You know, you have a grievance,

1385
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:19.399
<v Speaker 2>you blow it up to something.

1386
01:15:19.319 --> 01:15:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Huge because she wants her time, she wants her screen day.

1387
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:29.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, I am leaving and I am removing myself

1388
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:30.920
<v Speaker 1>from this situation.

1389
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Like she she dos Santa X rumors are very hard

1390
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:37.199
<v Speaker 2>for her to be to me, Yeah, yeah, she.

1391
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Just fucks around, does fuck all like all season and

1392
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:42.920
<v Speaker 1>then in the last two episodes she's like, oh shit,

1393
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do any work. And then it's like you

1394
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:50.239
<v Speaker 1>can leave your boil, like brings out all the big guns.

1395
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:51.720
<v Speaker 1>In those last two episodes.

1396
01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 2>She is she is something something I don't want to

1397
01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:57.560
<v Speaker 2>People are like, what do we what do we get

1398
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:00.560
<v Speaker 2>from Meredith? And I'm like, you know, a lot of

1399
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:03.199
<v Speaker 2>the times nothing, but when she does deliver, it's better.

1400
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 2>She showed up at they had a Mary had a

1401
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 2>thing where she had an Audrey Hepburn themed lunch and

1402
01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Maren showed up wearing a wig and to give herself bangs.

1403
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:16.600
<v Speaker 2>But it looks like she put on the wig backwards

1404
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:20.199
<v Speaker 2>and she just and she's an attractive woman and she

1405
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:22.279
<v Speaker 2>just looks absurd.

1406
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Just there were so many moments this season like for yeah,

1407
01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Meredith with her wig that is maybe backwards. I don't

1408
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:30.680
<v Speaker 1>know what she's doing.

1409
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:33.079
<v Speaker 2>And then and then the eye patch things she made

1410
01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 2>from the sleep mask because she poked her eye in

1411
01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:36.399
<v Speaker 2>the middle.

1412
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Of mar Yeah, it's so weird, like she's a pirate

1413
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:45.720
<v Speaker 1>or what is she doing? And then like Mary showing

1414
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:50.319
<v Speaker 1>up late to the button Mitzvudge. She's like outside trying

1415
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:53.479
<v Speaker 1>to look through all the windows, and she's like right behind.

1416
01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:57.479
<v Speaker 2>Like she's a blura and Mary's like behind them in

1417
01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:01.760
<v Speaker 2>a window, like they can see her there. What are

1418
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:03.119
<v Speaker 2>you doing? Looked looking?

1419
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it was so funny. I laughed so good.

1420
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:10.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like the best comedy and drama on TV.

1421
01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I swear it really is.

1422
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:14.600
<v Speaker 1>And then all of our all of our other shows

1423
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:18.079
<v Speaker 1>are back. You know, your your Elisabeth's, your Matt Lox,

1424
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:23.319
<v Speaker 1>your your Abbot Elementaries. They're all back, so, which is

1425
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:28.520
<v Speaker 1>good because we all need some distress. Yeah, and uh

1426
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:31.600
<v Speaker 1>for a while, I think we're going to need these distractions.

1427
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:33.560
<v Speaker 1>So and then we're gonna get below Deck.

1428
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Down down Under. They're going to actually their own Africa there,

1429
01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:44.760
<v Speaker 2>they're in Africa. Yeah, and Captain Jason is back, and

1430
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:47.680
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be I mean all we'll be right

1431
01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:49.479
<v Speaker 2>in the world. As long as blow Deck.

1432
01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Is on, I know we'll at least have that. Yeah, yeah, sorry.

1433
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I also have a short list because again I've just

1434
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.479
<v Speaker 1>been mainly playing video games and watching what I already know,

1435
01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:03.880
<v Speaker 1>because right that's what I can handle.

1436
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I go to the comfort things.

1437
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, and everybody that could depend on yes, yeah, everybody,

1438
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:13.279
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself. Everything's a lot like right now.

1439
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>And if you like the sound of our voices, we

1440
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:18.640
<v Speaker 1>co host a podcast called What a Creep where we

1441
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:21.439
<v Speaker 1>talk about creeps in the past and the present. Our

1442
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:24.039
<v Speaker 1>episode out right now is Tell.

1443
01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Keyho and it's about nineteen twenty seven's Bath School massacre.

1444
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:36.000
<v Speaker 2>It happened in Bath, Michigan. It's and it's a tough one.

1445
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not one of the fun ones. It's not just

1446
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:40.279
<v Speaker 2>calling somebody an asshole for a while. It's a tough one.

1447
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.800
<v Speaker 2>But I think it also speaks to unfortunately things that

1448
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:44.560
<v Speaker 2>are happening now.

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01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I think what we discover a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>What a Creep is there are no original ideas even

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<v Speaker 1>in creepdom.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you like movies, we did do. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>about John Hughes movies. A couple of weeks ago. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're looking for a more fun one, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what a creep that's a good one to start.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we always end the episode with someone who's not

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<v Speaker 1>a creepy. Right at the end of that most recent episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I made a list of like good things for us

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<v Speaker 1>that you can read or watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Or follow or whatever. So yeah, so do that, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people find you on the internet?

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<v Speaker 2>So, as of right now, you can find me for

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<v Speaker 2>sure at Brooklynfitchick dot com. That's my site. I'm at

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01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Brooklynfitchick for threads and Instagram. I'm at Brooklyn Margo for

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01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Blue Sky and also for TikTok, and then at YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at my name Margo Donahue.

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<v Speaker 1>Follow her on all the things. She shares clips and

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<v Speaker 1>her book is coming out later this year about Saturday

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01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Night Fever, and you're not gonna want to miss any

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01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:45.479
<v Speaker 1>good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually spoke to the director yesterday, John Bata. We

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<v Speaker 2>were writing back and forth and he' psyched to read it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course he is, we all are.

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<v Speaker 2>He's eighty five, so I'm like holding on. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>please o August dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like soon and I will have a book

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01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:05.199
<v Speaker 1>for you. I'm also excited to read it. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be it's gonna be awesome. You can find me

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01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:09.880
<v Speaker 1>at the Sonia Show dot com and the Sonya Show

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01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:15.920
<v Speaker 1>on Blue Sky and threads and Instagram and TikTok all

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01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:23.039
<v Speaker 1>the places for now. Email us at Dorking Out Show

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01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:25.560
<v Speaker 1>if you give us your address, Margot will send you stickers.

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01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Because she is very kind, she will do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>we also take requests. So if you have a movie

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<v Speaker 1>that you would love for us to talk about, that's

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01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.840
<v Speaker 1>a great place to send it to us. You can

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<v Speaker 1>email us, you can follow us on threads and blue

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<v Speaker 1>Sky and Instagram, and you could go to Facebook again.

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<v Speaker 1>Requests are great. Give us a review wherever you listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's on spreaker or Spotify or Apple podcasts. It

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<v Speaker 1>helps us find our people. We super appreciate you for

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01:20:55.439 --> 01:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>doing that. Thank you, I guess for talking about as

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<v Speaker 1>good a no.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for.

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<v Speaker 1>Going through this bullshit with me, Margo. There's nobody I

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<v Speaker 1>would else do this with.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good way to assimilate my rage was

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01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:15.399
<v Speaker 2>to do it through this movie. So it does work

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<v Speaker 2>in that way. If you're pissed about something, watch this

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<v Speaker 2>movie and just yell at it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of therapy to be had with watching

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<v Speaker 1>something that makes you mad. I'm gonna go punch a pillow.