Speaker 1: Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bulbo. These guys
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Speaker 3: And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Bubo Fay.
Speaker 2: Greetings Bobo, So Cliff, all sorts of stuff. Man, just
Speaker 2: just kind of cruising through life through choppy seas and things.
Speaker 2: Waves are coming at me from all directions, but my
Speaker 2: boat isn't swamped yet, though it feels like it's a
Speaker 2: precariously close. But I know better than that. Life always
Speaker 2: sees me through the universe is always conspiring for my
Speaker 2: higher self, and I just keep on plodding forward and
Speaker 2: ignoring the wind. I guess what about you? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: I was a dead show.
Speaker 4: Uh, it was cool. It was I heard the I
Speaker 4: thought the visuals was like better this year, but I
Speaker 4: thought last year's well maybe it's just because the newness
Speaker 4: wore off. But it was just so like the first
Speaker 4: time you see it's just so jaw dropping. The second
Speaker 4: time it's still awesome, but it wasn't quite as impactful.
Speaker 4: But it was still I mean, it's rat It's freaking awesome.
Speaker 4: It's musty, almost life changing. Yeah, now I got it.
Speaker 4: I got a text from Bill. Bill actually texted me.
Speaker 4: He said, Bobo showed up five minutes before the music started.
Speaker 2: What happened to you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What took you soul on to get there?
Speaker 4: The plane was late. I barely made my connection in
Speaker 4: San Francisco, Like barely.
Speaker 2: That's pretty stressful.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it was so stressful. It messed me up
Speaker 4: for the whole weekend.
Speaker 2: Now, what was the plane ride like? Because I know
Speaker 2: how much you love having crying children next.
Speaker 4: To you, Oh dude, from Vegas to San Francisco. I
Speaker 4: was got a fight with this whole family.
Speaker 2: The whole family. Could you have taken them? Who would
Speaker 2: have won? Who would have won? On that one?
Speaker 4: Dad? It kicked my butt.
Speaker 3: Way, don't gather around.
Speaker 5: It's Bobo story, dude. He's gonna see some things that'll
Speaker 5: blow my classic a scene. He's lying, he's going a
Speaker 5: kid kill me. Hi once again, it's Bubo story.
Speaker 3: Any description of felonious or criminal activity is being told
Speaker 3: here strictly for entertainment purposes, and is in no way
Speaker 3: admission of guilt or even true for that matter.
Speaker 4: You know, you're sitting next to somebody like you're your
Speaker 4: head is like within twenty four inches of their head.
Speaker 4: The guy starts chewing gum. Dude like puts in a
Speaker 4: couple pieces of gum and starts chewing with his mouth
Speaker 4: up and then like blowing little bows pop, like just
Speaker 4: cheating on. And I was just like, dude, I go, hey, man,
Speaker 4: I got a bad case of me cell phonia.
Speaker 3: Wait, wha, wha what what?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait backup? You have a bad case of what mesphonia?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 4: It's a condition where certain sounds drive you like just crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen that in you. Like top of the
Speaker 2: list of course is stepping on crunchy snow dogs like
Speaker 2: at the base of the bed. I know you hate that,
Speaker 2: or I also know that you really really hate people
Speaker 2: chewing with their mouth open. So you had this right
Speaker 2: next to you.
Speaker 4: Like right, and then the dude's mom was in front
Speaker 4: of us, and she was doing the same thing, like
Speaker 4: really loud. I was just like, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I got a bad case to be so funny. You
Speaker 4: like that stuff is worse than figuringauts on a chalkboard
Speaker 4: to me, Like it's I go, if you got to choose,
Speaker 4: you got just please keep your mouth closed. And the
Speaker 4: guy like he would keep his mouth close like three
Speaker 4: or four or five chees, another to go like a
Speaker 4: loud smack, like tongue smack, one like lips, like just
Speaker 4: the grossest wet sound like. And I was just like, dude, like,
Speaker 4: come on, man, like it. We're in such a tight space.
Speaker 4: I go, it's to me, it's like it's worse than
Speaker 4: having like a smoker next to me or something, and
Speaker 4: I hate smoke. And he's just like, so I paid
Speaker 4: for my seat, I'm in my spot on, I'm not
Speaker 4: doing anything wrong or I'm doing with my rights or
Speaker 4: whatever he said. I just go, yeah, it's just if
Speaker 4: you're gonna be cool, and like we're all we were
Speaker 4: all trying to get like somewhere at the same time,
Speaker 4: this little tiny illuminum can flying through the air. So
Speaker 4: we got to like, you know, you're respectful for others.
Speaker 4: He's like, you try me in respectful you the one
Speaker 4: in talking. I was just like, if you're gonna be
Speaker 4: an asshole about it, But I was getting really worked
Speaker 4: out because like it makes me go crazy, Like I
Speaker 4: was ready to fight him and his brothers, dad, and
Speaker 4: his mom all at once. I asked the stewardest to
Speaker 4: move me. I said, I'm gonna freaking snap. I was.
Speaker 4: I was like really close to snap and I was like,
Speaker 4: so she finally moved me.
Speaker 2: You okay. Well, I guess that's a good introduction to
Speaker 2: secondary Bobo, who We have a number of Bobo's favorite
Speaker 2: things to say on our soundboard. So Matt Prut can
Speaker 2: pipe it in whatever he darnwell feels like it. Bobo, Robo,
Speaker 2: Bobo ro Bobo, watch it, Bobo cop. Well, you did
Speaker 2: say he was a good time police, But yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 2: Being on a plane with inconsiderate people is the absolute worst. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, So Vegas Airport. I've been there a couple
Speaker 2: of times. It's pretty crazy place. Lots of drunk people
Speaker 2: wandering around. Melissa was in the Vegas airport last year.
Speaker 2: She had a layover somewhere.
Speaker 4: She saw the thunder from down under right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she heard this ruckus and she didn't know
Speaker 2: what it was, and like she thought it was she
Speaker 2: thought it was an active shooter because there's so much
Speaker 2: shrieking and screaming and all this other stuff. And when
Speaker 2: it turns out it was just thunder down under the
Speaker 2: male strippers crumbing through. So nothing happened in the airport
Speaker 2: like that was pretty smooth. Getting out of the airport,
Speaker 2: Russell Manna was going on, and I saw an old wrestler.
Speaker 4: God who was I can't even remember now. I saw old,
Speaker 4: an old wrestler like w F got like the eighties
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Wow, the prime era, Oh for.
Speaker 4: Sure it was. It was dead heads in WrestleMania, fans
Speaker 4: all over like this strip.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. So how'd you get from the airport to
Speaker 2: the or you didn't You didn't even have a hotel.
Speaker 3: What did you do?
Speaker 2: You went straight to the Venetian, which is kind of
Speaker 2: attached to the sphere or what.
Speaker 4: I went straight to the Sphere. I met Bill and
Speaker 4: he was sending out front. I met him and we
Speaker 4: just went in and then as soon as the gig
Speaker 4: was over, he was super tired. It was his third
Speaker 4: night a round. I was super tired. I was gonna
Speaker 4: go gamble and he goes, hey, he goes, dude, you're
Speaker 4: too old to go gamble all night, and he so
Speaker 4: I got your room? Oh yeah, no, oh that was
Speaker 4: that was the big problem. While I was late to
Speaker 4: also getting there. While I was flying there, my credit
Speaker 4: cards got canceled for a fraud.
Speaker 2: Who were you defrauding?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: I was, Oh, I get it. I would see someone
Speaker 2: is defrauding you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the victim this time.
Speaker 2: So while you were in the air, this happens. That's
Speaker 2: what good timing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I land and then I can't get a
Speaker 4: freaking uber or a Lyft because my card like well,
Speaker 4: then I switched card. I had a back. I had
Speaker 4: three cards and they all got canceled for like the
Speaker 4: same type of like online advertising company was charging me multiples.
Speaker 2: So getting back wasn't an issue. So you got We
Speaker 2: went to a hotel. What time was your flight the
Speaker 2: next day?
Speaker 4: Oh? My flight was at eight in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh gosh, you don't do well in those hours, man.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you have a job now.
Speaker 4: But because I was, I went for early flight because
Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna be staying like it's just
Speaker 4: sitting in the casino gambling. So I wanted to get
Speaker 4: as early a flight as I could, So I got
Speaker 4: the first one I could get was eight, so I
Speaker 4: took that one and then I'd ordered the Uber. When
Speaker 4: I got Oh, they turned on my card for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Finally the night before and then it was permanently turned off.
Speaker 4: But I got fifteen minutes, and so I gave the
Speaker 4: credit card for the room and at the same time
Speaker 4: I ordered it uber for the morning. But then the
Speaker 4: card wasn't working in the morning. I thought like, I
Speaker 4: paid fourth then, so I was good to go then,
Speaker 4: so that they didn't Uber didn't show up. I was
Speaker 4: supposed to get picked up at six between six thirty
Speaker 4: and six forty five.
Speaker 2: That's stressful to me because you know, you and I
Speaker 2: have argued over this before, actually had some words because
Speaker 2: I don't I like to show up to the airport early,
Speaker 2: like you know, the two hours or so that.
Speaker 4: They are the way early.
Speaker 2: What time was you an eight o'clock flight and you're
Speaker 2: going to catch an UBER at six forty five?
Speaker 4: Well, it's only ten minutes from the airport.
Speaker 2: That's not way early.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna be there an hour and I
Speaker 4: got psat check up Sunday morning early. I didn't realize
Speaker 4: it Vegas, that's like the most crowded flights just about
Speaker 4: was Sunday morning. It was like, dude, it was it
Speaker 4: was insane. I got there, Well, I got there. I
Speaker 4: was supposed to get picked up between six. I was
Speaker 4: supposed to get picked up at six fifteen and get
Speaker 4: there at six thirty. So I was like, I that's
Speaker 4: an hour and a half.
Speaker 2: That's more reasonable to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I was gonna be there at six
Speaker 4: thirty that I didn't ended up not getting there until
Speaker 4: like after seven. And I was in line when they
Speaker 4: said yeah, and I was like, oh my god, dude.
Speaker 4: It was like a traffic jam playing into the airport
Speaker 4: and it was packed. It was like shoulder short of
Speaker 4: the line was so long to get out of there. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I was just in that line, like, just all.
Speaker 4: I didn't sleep much.
Speaker 2: Are you the kind of guy that can sleep on
Speaker 2: a plane usually?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not this time.
Speaker 2: And was the plane ride back a little more soothing
Speaker 2: than the chomper sitting in the chair next to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, totally okay.
Speaker 2: Cool, got back, no harm, no foul, no arrests, you
Speaker 2: having your credit card is back working? Now back to
Speaker 2: work your regular deal now? Yeah, welcome back, Bobo. Well,
Speaker 2: Matt Prude, do you have something planned for us today,
Speaker 2: don't you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been quite a while since we've done a
Speaker 3: Finding Bigfoot centric episode, I thought it'd be fun to
Speaker 3: do a whole episode about experiences or encounters that you've
Speaker 3: had during the filming of the show, and it's sort
Speaker 3: of like reference points. I went to the Animal Planet's
Speaker 3: YouTube channel where they have an official Finding Bigfoot playlist,
Speaker 3: and so I tried to scroll through and grab a
Speaker 3: bunch of moments that either both of you or at
Speaker 3: least one of you were present for. So I thought,
Speaker 3: maybe if there's certain stories or encounters that come to
Speaker 3: mind that you guys wanted to explicate, or I could
Speaker 3: throw some of these at you, or all the above,
Speaker 3: and just we've been doing this podcast so long that
Speaker 3: I know it feels like we talked about it a lot.
Speaker 3: But then I remember, like, oh, no, most of the
Speaker 3: people listening are here because of Finding Bigfoot, and we
Speaker 3: used to do more Finding Bigfoot centric episodes, so I
Speaker 3: thought it'd be fun to do one of those today.
Speaker 2: I can't believe they still have that stuff up on
Speaker 2: their website. It's been quite a while now, I mean
Speaker 2: it's been what the show went off the air in
Speaker 2: what twenty seventeen or eighteen, Except for that one that
Speaker 2: went off in twenty twenty, so god, that's you know,
Speaker 2: eight years or something. That's insane.
Speaker 3: And yeah, some of the clips are only like a
Speaker 3: year old, a couple of years old, so they're like
Speaker 3: recycling moments from episodes and releasing those as new clips. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: So some of these clips say, you know, eleven years ago,
Speaker 3: and some of them literally say, uploaded to YouTube eight
Speaker 3: months ago.
Speaker 2: That's insane, man, that's just insane.
Speaker 4: No, people still watch it. I get messages and I
Speaker 4: watch it every night before I go to bed. I
Speaker 4: get several of those.
Speaker 2: I get and you know, I speak to people who
Speaker 2: say that same thing, and it's like, that's that's wildly
Speaker 2: odd to me, because like there's nothing more soothing than
Speaker 2: moneymakers shrieking into the night. Uh, that's just me, though,
Speaker 2: I don't know. What do I know about falling asleep?
Speaker 2: Not much? Well, anyway, what do you got for us, Sarah?
Speaker 2: What you just wanted to do?
Speaker 3: Well? Do you guys have any stories that come to
Speaker 3: mind first? Or do you want me to just start
Speaker 3: with the clips?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't know. I mean, you should probably
Speaker 2: just toss an episode to us, because after a hundred
Speaker 2: for at least from I mean, Bobo. You can speak
Speaker 2: from your own experience, of course, but to me, at
Speaker 2: least after one hundred ish episodes, they all kind of
Speaker 2: mushed together into one thing, and without an anchor, I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know where to point the boat? You know? Well?
Speaker 3: I found one clip that involves a sound incident and
Speaker 3: the title of the clip is hearing a Bigfoot howl
Speaker 3: on an investigation, and the description reads the team delves
Speaker 3: into the Ozar collows in search of the Sasquatch, colloquially
Speaker 3: known as the Blue Man. A pack town hall verifies
Speaker 3: the Bigfoots have been here for generations, and an eventful
Speaker 3: final night has them convinced the Ozarks are the real
Speaker 3: deal Ozarks.
Speaker 2: That's a Missouri we stayed in? Was it Branson? Is
Speaker 2: that the name of the big town over there? Where
Speaker 2: did we go? I remember one investigation we went out there.
Speaker 2: There was a juvenile involved, and remember it, not a
Speaker 2: juvenile human, but a juvenile sasquatch involved. I was pretty
Speaker 2: impressed with the habitat for the most part, but not
Speaker 2: a lot sticks out to me at the moment about
Speaker 2: that particular episode. What do you remember, Boba jog my memory.
Speaker 4: I know something happened. I'm so busy thinking about having
Speaker 4: a beer with Greg Brady at the bar.
Speaker 2: You had a beer with Greg Brady at the bar?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he lives there. He was doing his like one
Speaker 4: Man's show.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 4: Yeah? Magic was Magic hung out like before we got there,
Speaker 4: so he already knew him.
Speaker 2: You're kidding me. No, that's insane.
Speaker 4: And I just missed going over to He was hanging
Speaker 4: out too with Carrie Fisher. Carry. You're hanging out with
Speaker 4: Cary Fisher too for Star Wars. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Did you get to meet Kerry Fisher?
Speaker 4: No? But we were gonna like he was he was.
Speaker 4: She wanted to like party with us.
Speaker 2: She used to party pretty hard. From understand. Barry Williams
Speaker 2: that's his name, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Barry what Barry? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because he had a show there in Branson. That's right,
Speaker 2: That's right. So you you actually drank beer with Greg Brady.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a bunch of guys from the crew did.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I would have loved and have done that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. He definitely did not want to talk any any
Speaker 4: Greg Brady's that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Now, who would who would?
Speaker 4: I think That's why I think that's what they liked.
Speaker 4: Hanging out with us was like, you know, like we
Speaker 4: know the drill. We're not gonna like sit there and
Speaker 4: just bump him out, you know.
Speaker 2: Wow, Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff
Speaker 2: and Bobo will be right back after these messages. So
Speaker 2: three to six months doesn't seem like a long time
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Speaker 2: been looking for sasquatches for decades and decades and decades.
Speaker 2: But when you think about what can happen in three
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Speaker 2: to six months? But I'm going to give me a
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Speaker 2: full details and important safety information. Bob, was that the
Speaker 2: Missouri episode that you told me about that there was
Speaker 2: someone in the audience who claimed to have shot one? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a story I think people should hear because I
Speaker 2: think we might have touched on it on a public episode.
Speaker 2: But I know you told me about it on a
Speaker 2: phone call once and that was like a wild story.
Speaker 2: Maybe that person listens.
Speaker 4: I said here, I've said on other interviews saying like, dude,
Speaker 4: if this is you, it can get a hold of it.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's funny because it's just it's really
Speaker 4: similar to another story I heard. He was either fifteen
Speaker 4: or seventeen. I think he was seventeen. Yeah, he was seventeen.
Speaker 4: The other story when the guy was fifteen, he was seventeen.
Speaker 4: It was the first time his dad let him go
Speaker 4: hunt by himself on opening day, like he usual to
Speaker 4: see with his dad in the blind or whatever and
Speaker 4: get his shop. Sitting there next to his dad. So
Speaker 4: his death says, all right, you're old enough, you can
Speaker 4: have your own spot. This year, he was all excited,
Speaker 4: and he was as he was hiking out there. He
Speaker 4: was walking. He wasn't far from camp. I mean it's
Speaker 4: like a regular campground. There's other people camp there few
Speaker 4: other people's kind of spread out. And he had only
Speaker 4: walked maybe five six hundred yards from camp, and he
Speaker 4: came into this dry riverbed. As he starts to getting
Speaker 4: ready to cross it, he looks over and sees like, uh,
Speaker 4: he thought it was bears dartning and out of like
Speaker 4: bear comes to the other side, like dartning out of
Speaker 4: the breast, coming on the river bank a little bit
Speaker 4: and then going back in. And then he raised his rifle.
Speaker 4: I think he had like a three by nine or
Speaker 4: whatever something like that, and it was getting up to
Speaker 4: you know, he zoomed in on it. He's looking at
Speaker 4: it like there's young ones. And he said there was
Speaker 4: five six adults in the in the brush, and there
Speaker 4: was probably the same amount of young ones, like smaller
Speaker 4: than him, running around on the outside. And he's looking
Speaker 4: through he comes al asudden this big mail steps out,
Speaker 4: and he like he focuses in on the big mail
Speaker 4: and it just looks right at him. He was looking
Speaker 4: at his naked eyes, like, oh my god, this giant
Speaker 4: one comes walking out, and he like lifts his rifle
Speaker 4: and looks at it. So as he lists his rifle,
Speaker 4: things face just changes into like sheer rage. And he'd
Speaker 4: been pointing the gun, looking at like the females and
Speaker 4: young ones too, and the thing just goes And he
Speaker 4: said he was looking at he was looking at it,
Speaker 4: and before he did the awe, he like he was
Speaker 4: looking at it. He lifted his gun up, and when
Speaker 4: he lifted his gun up, that's when it just screams
Speaker 4: and starts running. He looked at he said, he's trying
Speaker 4: to focus and he goes it was coming so fast
Speaker 4: he couldn't keep the focus on it. He's changing too fast.
Speaker 4: So he lured the rifle, he said after about three seconds.
Speaker 4: He said, after three seconds, I think was over sixty
Speaker 4: had gone over sixty yards and was closing in so fast.
Speaker 4: He said, he just lifted the gun up and he said,
Speaker 4: but he said when he fired, he was only like
Speaker 4: thirty feet from her. So he just shot at point
Speaker 4: blank in the chest. And he described the exact exact
Speaker 4: same way that for the Sierrah killsite justin when he
Speaker 4: describes his how it went down. And like also this
Speaker 4: other guy that we talked to for just and I,
Speaker 4: this kid that shot one on Mount Shasta like twenty
Speaker 4: something years ago, right right before the doctor had his
Speaker 4: Doctor Johnson had his sighting had Oregon caves like that
Speaker 4: same uh, like within a two week period that whenever
Speaker 4: that was this kid shot one. That was another kid
Speaker 4: on his first day of hunting season. His dad let
Speaker 4: him go by himself on first day of rifle season,
Speaker 4: first time alone. He shot one. And all three of
Speaker 4: those guys said the same exact thing, like the dropped
Speaker 4: instantly popped back up, and it went into like a
Speaker 4: sprinter's position, like both hands on the ground and like
Speaker 4: like one leg right into his chest and the like
Speaker 4: trailing behind like you know, getting in that sprinter's closure
Speaker 4: to blast off running and it took off and it
Speaker 4: just charged up this hill, went over the ridge and
Speaker 4: he heard it just crash and like just no more sound,
Speaker 4: and he was like, oh my god. He was just
Speaker 4: freaking out and he ran back to camp. His dad
Speaker 4: heard it. His dad came back to camp. He thought
Speaker 4: he got a deer, and uh yeah. So later that
Speaker 4: afternoon they went up there. They waited a few hours,
Speaker 4: like to make sure that thing was dead or whatever.
Speaker 4: They went up there, they found like full blood trail,
Speaker 4: like I see said he put it right through its lungs,
Speaker 4: one of its lungs or something. There was like tissue
Speaker 4: and stuff, and he tracked the blood trail and his
Speaker 4: dad said that it was bleeding heavy, and then they
Speaker 4: it went about. The creature traveled like two h two
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty yards something like that up over this
Speaker 4: little ridge and then collapsed there. So there was a
Speaker 4: big pool where it had been bleeding out, but it
Speaker 4: was just gone, like I think the other ones carried
Speaker 4: it away. And then that night they started hearing like
Speaker 4: a full freaking cacophony coming from the other side of
Speaker 4: the Drive river, like where where you'd seen those ones
Speaker 4: where he shot it, going like ah, like he said,
Speaker 4: like just his dad's His dad said it was so scary.
Speaker 4: He said it was like he said, it just sounded
Speaker 4: like demons from hell. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 4: they came towards their camp and then it just went
Speaker 4: dead quiet, and like twinas, they started hearing like whispering
Speaker 4: sounds like that and like trotting through the camp like
Speaker 4: they were moving all around the camp, and his dad
Speaker 4: chambered around like you know, like loaded his rifle and
Speaker 4: it just went dead quiet, and they were like a
Speaker 4: little bit scurry and scurry and of feet, and they
Speaker 4: went out there with their lights nothing, and they never
Speaker 4: came back. They never they never came back that night.
Speaker 4: They wait till the next morning. Looked around. There was
Speaker 4: like impressions, nothing like they could cast right. They saw
Speaker 4: a bunch of foot impressions, like I think he said,
Speaker 4: there were like ten of fourtune inches most of them.
Speaker 4: There was like there was at least one track set
Speaker 4: that was really big. They didn't they didn't measure them.
Speaker 4: And then they just they just took off out of there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and the dad and the kid were both
Speaker 4: there and the kid was still distraught. It had been
Speaker 4: like five years.
Speaker 3: Wow, And he told that on camera, right, and they
Speaker 3: just didn't use it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said that's too that's too violent.
Speaker 3: That's wild man. That's a kind of cool behind the
Speaker 3: scenes story from an episode like that, for sure. I
Speaker 3: mean those stories are always fascinating.
Speaker 4: They should they show him talking about his story like before,
Speaker 4: Like they don't.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 4: We don't feature him because he wouldn't do it. He
Speaker 4: wouldn't go on camerasy shot one because he didn't want
Speaker 4: to do with the backlash. But I'm pretty sure like
Speaker 4: he's on the episode, I think, uh talking like at
Speaker 4: the beginning, like when they just show a little clips
Speaker 4: of like town hallocks and like look like a guy
Speaker 4: saying one or two sentences or something. He had something
Speaker 4: like that on there, but he was like, I shot it.
Speaker 4: I don't think he said he shot it. I think
Speaker 4: he just said whatever he was saying, like it came
Speaker 4: across at him or something. I don't I don't think
Speaker 4: they included anything about the shooting him.
Speaker 3: That's wild And Yeah, each of these clips that I'm mentioning,
Speaker 3: they will be linked in the show notes, folks, So
Speaker 3: if you want to see the clip from the episode,
Speaker 3: We're referencing just look at the episode description, it will
Speaker 3: be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean while Bobo was talking there, I
Speaker 2: was listening. I pulled up the Missouri episode because I
Speaker 2: have all the episodes of my hard drive, you know,
Speaker 2: because they gave us, you know, the digital copies before
Speaker 2: they released them at a courtesy to us. So anyway,
Speaker 2: I was kind of scrubbing through it. And our final
Speaker 2: night investigation was with a gentleman, a musician called Shoji Tabuci,
Speaker 2: Japanese American music fiddler, and he was out there with us.
Speaker 2: He was what's our search technique? Which is rad because
Speaker 2: I was when I pulled it up, and I looked
Speaker 2: at the final night and thinking what did we do here?
Speaker 2: I saw me walking around with the guitar as a guitar,
Speaker 2: no kidding, And oh yeah, that's right. I accompanied this
Speaker 2: gentleman here, and then I kind of scrubbed through the
Speaker 2: rest of it to kind of see what I was missing,
Speaker 2: to kind of try to jar my memory a little bit.
Speaker 2: And of course we had Ron Bowles in there. Ron
Speaker 2: Bowles as a bfroo diehard, I think is a nice
Speaker 2: way to say it. He's doing all the Missouri stuff
Speaker 2: and he loves he loves him some bfro I'll tell
Speaker 2: you that, good guy.
Speaker 3: He also loves the Ozarks and I remember, you know,
Speaker 3: Ron's a buddy of all of ours, and he has
Speaker 3: a very distinct voice. He's heard me do my impression
Speaker 3: of him. We give each other a hard time, but
Speaker 3: he once said to me I was Oo's art bread
Speaker 3: and by god, I'll be whose art dead.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I'm kind of scrubbing through that. I mean,
Speaker 2: the other things I remember off the top of you know,
Speaker 2: Renee did a I guess the camping trip of some
Speaker 2: sort out there, but uh, you and I Bubba were
Speaker 2: on an investigation with the motorcycle people. I guess they
Speaker 2: had a road crossing as near as I can remember.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember them or not. But
Speaker 2: the man and the woman, Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally. The hardy guy said, and like he
Speaker 4: put his foot up like he was like he was
Speaker 4: like a joust, like he was gonna kick it if
Speaker 4: it came any closer, and he just missed it.
Speaker 2: Was yeah that effect, Yeah that's what, yeah exactly. So
Speaker 2: there was that in that episode, And like I said,
Speaker 2: Renee went solo camping, and I guess that you and
Speaker 2: I also were on another investigation where I think that's
Speaker 2: where like baby Squatch came up, like there's a little
Speaker 2: joke in there that baby Squatch was my rapper name
Speaker 2: or something like that. To remember, was that that one?
Speaker 2: I think it was that one. Yeah, because they saw
Speaker 2: a juvenile and I stood in as a juvenile as
Speaker 2: I often do, probably largely due to my immaturity. So
Speaker 2: that's what I remember about it. I remember Soji had
Speaker 2: to leave or Shoji. I always mixed up this guy's
Speaker 2: name with my dog's name, Sochi Shoji had to leave early.
Speaker 2: So we finished the night investigation without him. But I
Speaker 2: don't remember if anything we got. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: remember if we got anything or not, but I remember
Speaker 2: that's what I remember about the episode.
Speaker 4: I don't remember. It might have been the first night
Speaker 4: we were out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first night, based on what I'm looking at here,
Speaker 2: you and Matt were out and you were wearing like
Speaker 2: one of those real warm, fuzzy hats, you know, like
Speaker 2: the Russian sort of style hats. But oh and we
Speaker 2: also went to those like the nerd historical kind of guy.
Speaker 2: I remember that. That's kind of what brought us down there.
Speaker 2: Because they didn't have a piece of evidence for Missouri,
Speaker 2: but they really wanted us to go there, and we
Speaker 2: usually went to a location based on a particular piece
Speaker 2: of evidence that we could pull out, like a photograph
Speaker 2: or a footprint or something like that, but they didn't
Speaker 2: have something like that. So he went down there and
Speaker 2: interviewed some like historical reenactors at some cabin or something
Speaker 2: like that about the balloon.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right. Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Scrubbing through the the episode helped jar some of my memory,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. And of course Matt has beautiful, glorious
Speaker 2: long hair.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. But what I remember, like times where I
Speaker 4: was sure I saw something on the show was when
Speaker 4: we were in New York for the baby footage, I
Speaker 4: had the therm and it was the first night we
Speaker 4: got that that therm. I remember, it was the first
Speaker 4: night we had it, and I didn't. I wasn't too
Speaker 4: great at focusing it all the way, like getting it
Speaker 4: all dialed on that and there was we remember we
Speaker 4: had those knocks and all that we were at the babysite. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I saw two like I didn't really, It wasn't the therm,
Speaker 4: but two glowing balls of light that looked like I
Speaker 4: didn't realize how big there at the time. It must
Speaker 4: have been like seven plus like seven to eight feet
Speaker 4: or something, and just really why, but there was no
Speaker 4: detail to him at all. They were just like balls
Speaker 4: of light like walking. They came over the hill and
Speaker 4: we're watching us when we were getting ready to we
Speaker 4: were packing up and all that ready to getting ready
Speaker 4: to leave, like we'd already done our interviews and stuff.
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, and I have someone else look
Speaker 4: at the like you can't tell what it is. I said,
Speaker 4: I know, but we should since someone do a size comparison.
Speaker 4: So I ran up there and they were gone. When
Speaker 4: I got up there, there was no one there. But
Speaker 4: got like a better idea of the distance. You know,
Speaker 4: it was probably two hundred yards. They were about one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty to two hundred yards, closer to two hundred.
Speaker 4: Then when I did like some experiments with that same
Speaker 4: therm over the next few nights, I was like, those
Speaker 4: things were big. They were so big, like they like
Speaker 4: money maker even compared to them, like the same rough.
Speaker 3: Distance falls of light to the visible eye or like
Speaker 3: heat signatures on the thermal.
Speaker 4: Heat signatures like you can see you know how it
Speaker 4: is like when it it's like U you can see
Speaker 4: like the stick figure in the middle almost and there's
Speaker 4: a it's like really rounded around it the light like
Speaker 4: the therm it was doing that. That was one of
Speaker 4: the other ones I thought was was these as was
Speaker 4: that Nightcliff we were in Iowa at the Yellow Yellow
Speaker 4: River State Park that it was the night after we
Speaker 4: had the foot stomping incident and all that. No, it
Speaker 4: was the same night. It was just before that where
Speaker 4: we got that one huff at us and stomped his feet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember the noises that we got. I thought
Speaker 2: it was a vocalization though, but it might have been
Speaker 2: a huff or something like that. I have to go
Speaker 2: back and check.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, dude, it was. And then I was looking,
Speaker 4: uh where those guys were coming down the trail, and
Speaker 4: I saw someone coming down the trail. They turned around
Speaker 4: and went back. When they jumped off, the trail went
Speaker 4: like uh more east towards the Mississippi River. And uh,
Speaker 4: I was looking and I see this this see this
Speaker 4: guy walk down, turn turn around like like instant like
Speaker 4: just like the classic squads, Like there was no, oh, shoot, stop,
Speaker 4: turn go. It just spun on its heel and it
Speaker 4: was like never even broke stride, was just going back
Speaker 4: to That was the way it came. And it went
Speaker 4: off trail like away from me in some brush. Then
Speaker 4: like five ten seconds later, I see one of the
Speaker 4: teams coming back, you know, like I can see the
Speaker 4: the camera guy and you know, producer and whoever was
Speaker 4: with mine or whatever. They walked out, and this thing
Speaker 4: was easily a third bigger than them, easily and twice
Speaker 4: as wide.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was I had to be a squatch and I
Speaker 4: freaking that was a night I hit the I thought
Speaker 4: I thought I had it going, and that that can
Speaker 4: that therm was super glitchy, and I mean I blew
Speaker 4: it like I should have. I should have been more
Speaker 4: on it, but I thought I it happened so fast.
Speaker 4: By the time I made sure what everything was right,
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, I'm not recording and I was
Speaker 4: super bummed. Yeah I was. Those were those are two
Speaker 4: like where I was. I'm pretty dang sure I had
Speaker 4: one on therm. I'm like pretty positive. Well that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and
Speaker 2: Bogo will be right back.
Speaker 3: After these messages, there's one that says they are here
Speaker 3: that was a Sasquatch, and then the description reads the
Speaker 3: team has divided to find out which state is more
Speaker 3: sasquatch e, which is like, hey guys, it's squatchy. Just
Speaker 3: for ease of use in typing, Oregon or Washington cliff
Speaker 3: and Bobo might be really close to finding a bigfoot,
Speaker 3: So that sounds like a cliff line to me, they
Speaker 3: are here. That was a Sasquatch. Am I right, I
Speaker 3: think it was me. Bobo would have.
Speaker 2: Been like, that was a friggin squatch dude.
Speaker 4: On the on that on that one we were we
Speaker 4: were up Northmoor on the we were real North Oregon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Oregon Washington one. That's when Matt and Renee
Speaker 2: were in Washington and I brought you out to some
Speaker 2: like the Blueberry Bog and we had to will Call
Speaker 2: Hill and all that sort of stuff. I bet you
Speaker 2: that was will Call Hill, is what I'm guessing, which
Speaker 2: is out there on the east side of Mount Hood
Speaker 2: kind of towards Duffer in that general area, pretty far
Speaker 2: out there, kind of on the south side of the
Speaker 2: Dallas Watershed and stuff in that general area out there.
Speaker 2: A lot of good stuff happens out there, super interesting habitat,
Speaker 2: real dry not it's not the moist you know, semi
Speaker 2: temperate rainforests that we have on the west side of
Speaker 2: the Cascades, so you have a lot more you have
Speaker 2: all those animals and a bunch of other animals too
Speaker 2: that kind of prefer the dryer side of things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now, like Will Will Will
Speaker 2: Robinson is actually in this episode. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 2: one where we started out on the boat. I remember
Speaker 2: that we went to Rooster Rock. I think it's a
Speaker 2: state park or some sort of official parks. I know
Speaker 2: you have to pay to get in there. We launched
Speaker 2: out of a zodiac was inflatable sort of boats. But
Speaker 2: what you didn't see on there is that we're up
Speaker 2: right on the edge of like a nudist beach. And
Speaker 2: so yeah, there were scantily clad or less people men
Speaker 2: and women roman around down in the water. It was
Speaker 2: a lovely time of year, perfect Pacific Northwestern the summer
Speaker 2: is just absolutely perfect and and an odd oddly uninhibited
Speaker 2: Russian couples doing unspeakable things to each other in the water,
Speaker 2: not far away. Yeah, so that that was an interesting setup.
Speaker 2: I guess. It was a lot of fun, of course,
Speaker 2: And we get in the boats and do our little
Speaker 2: Zippy this way and Zippy that thing that way sort
Speaker 2: of thing, the TV stuff, you know that that brings
Speaker 2: everybody along for the story. And then then the Bigfoot
Speaker 2: stuff happened, and of course Bobo and I were teamed up,
Speaker 2: which was exciting. It was a lot of fun because,
Speaker 2: you know, as Bob and I spent a lot of
Speaker 2: time in the woods together. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: since I moved up to Oregon a lot less you know,
Speaker 2: because Bobo's down in California and I'm up here in Oregon.
Speaker 2: So I got to show Bobo some of the spots,
Speaker 2: like We'll call Hill. And of course we started out
Speaker 2: the episode with Will Robinson, who's one of the funniest
Speaker 2: dudes on the planet. This totally understated mad Man, as
Speaker 2: far as I can tell, is the craziestes, rivaled only
Speaker 2: by Bobo's himself's story. This insane stuff. But we got
Speaker 2: a great vocalization up at this place called We'll call Hill.
Speaker 2: Craig Flippy was there when we actually got the vocalization. God,
Speaker 2: that I think that might have been one of the
Speaker 2: last times I really did a n a night investigation
Speaker 2: in that area. It's been a long time because I
Speaker 2: found some spots on the west side of the mountains
Speaker 2: and I just don't go out to the east as much.
Speaker 2: But I was literally talking about that spot today at
Speaker 2: the museum with a couple of my employees in there,
Speaker 2: talking about the summer plans and what we're going to
Speaker 2: do with ourselves over the course of the next four
Speaker 2: or five six months. And I will call hill Is
Speaker 2: back on the menu as far as I can tell,
Speaker 2: because there's some unwalked roads on that side that I
Speaker 2: think would probably produce sasquash footprints that are kind of
Speaker 2: gated off, and no one really goes in there, and
Speaker 2: the substrate is perfect in there to read hating tracks
Speaker 2: for a long time. Nobody really goes off the road
Speaker 2: on that side. It's pretty neat, man, It's a really
Speaker 2: neat area. So and actually I have the vocalization. I
Speaker 2: could probably send that to you, Matt, if you want
Speaker 2: to play that vocalization for our listeners, I will play.
Speaker 3: That right now. So I haven't seen this episode. I
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about this if you remember it,
Speaker 3: because it looks like it was you and Renee. But
Speaker 3: the clip is called Inexplicable Light appears while the team
Speaker 3: investigates yamc Mountain. It says the team has the privilege
Speaker 3: to visit the Yam Sea Mountain, a sacred place for
Speaker 3: the Klamath tribes. While they investigate, Renee and Bobo see
Speaker 3: a strange light.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was like, I remember looking out going like here,
Speaker 4: you guys, see that there's a There was two of them,
Speaker 4: and I thought it was I thought it was a
Speaker 4: It just like headlaps, like bouncing down the trail, coming
Speaker 4: towards us, and I was looking at the throm but
Speaker 4: I couldn't see anything, like no, no people or nothing
Speaker 4: you can see with the naked eye, and like we
Speaker 4: and then no one can agree on what they were.
Speaker 4: And then they came close. Are in closer than they
Speaker 4: just about seventy feet from us. They turned and went, uh,
Speaker 4: we were on a trail, and that they went parallel
Speaker 4: to our trail. They were just bounced along. We had
Speaker 4: thermal imagers, night vision. Nothing nothing picked it up, not
Speaker 4: regular cameras, nothing like a therm nothing, nothing picked it up.
Speaker 4: But they were right there and there just bounced it
Speaker 4: like they bounced like a headline on someone walking.
Speaker 3: That's bizarre.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone there was tripping, like the camera crew, like
Speaker 4: the renee was totally tripped out. It was. It was
Speaker 4: they're like small like eggs, like white eggs, just floating.
Speaker 4: And they told us, oh, that's also when we drove
Speaker 4: in there, they told us about your car, like your
Speaker 4: cars will die. And sure enough, the lead vehicle in
Speaker 4: our like in a in our convoy of like seven
Speaker 4: vehicles breaks down inexplicitly, it's it's it's it's like whatever
Speaker 4: if we filled there in twenty sixteen, it was like
Speaker 4: a twenty sixteen suburban like three thousand miles on brand
Speaker 4: new just dies like do within ten feet where they
Speaker 4: said that the cars will die. Then another one died
Speaker 4: there too. Then our our box truck, the battery totally
Speaker 4: completely died, died. Likely I replaced the whole thing. So
Speaker 4: that was pretty odd.
Speaker 3: Also, had you been up there before? Was that like
Speaker 3: off limits to the public sort of the thing?
Speaker 4: I've never been there. Yeah, was travel only.
Speaker 3: Oh, very cool, that's awesome that you guys got to
Speaker 3: go up there.
Speaker 4: It was it was raid. Yeah, it was a Bitch
Speaker 4: and spot.
Speaker 3: Speaking of pitching spots and one of the other clips
Speaker 3: I saw that. I don't know if we talked about
Speaker 3: it here before, but when you guys went back with
Speaker 3: money Maker to where he had his first sighting in Ohio, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I've heard that story from him, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's been talked about a lot, but I kind
Speaker 3: of wondered what both of your impressions were of the site.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure he got pretty stoked being back there.
Speaker 4: Dude, it was the most excited he got the whole
Speaker 4: time we filmed. He was. That was the most stoked,
Speaker 4: the most fart that he was, and he sweat extra
Speaker 4: heart even for the money Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on fire. He was really excited about it.
Speaker 2: And I don't think he'd ever done recreation at the
Speaker 2: exit at the exact spot that it had happened. So
Speaker 2: it was good for him. It was good for him
Speaker 2: in lots of ways, and he really it really kind
Speaker 2: of wrapped his mind around finally what he encountered that night.
Speaker 2: You know, after doing all these recreations for so many
Speaker 2: years and so many seasons on the show, to see
Speaker 2: the sasquatch that he personally saw at twenty foot distance
Speaker 2: or whatever it was or less right there in front
Speaker 2: of him, and Bobo just failing to match the size
Speaker 2: and girth and presence of whatever it was that he
Speaker 2: observed that night.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, he was animated like money Maker's always animated,
Speaker 4: but he was extra money Maker animated.
Speaker 2: This one was that it was a wildlife refuge, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Berlin Wildlife Refuge. I think it is outside of
Speaker 2: Akron in Ohio. Yeah, really neat area. Being from the west,
Speaker 2: and it's probably exactly true for the opposite of what
Speaker 2: I'm going to say as well, but being from the west,
Speaker 2: it's really hard to wrap your head around what the
Speaker 2: habitat is in the east, you know. And I know
Speaker 2: that Ohio is kind of Midwestern or whatever, but we'll
Speaker 2: just call that east because it's certainly east of here
Speaker 2: where I am. Growing up out here. I just assumed
Speaker 2: that Sasquatches needed all this huge amount of land and
Speaker 2: freedom to room and all this other. Nah. No, they don't,
Speaker 2: they don't. They just need enough. They need enough land
Speaker 2: and enough corridors to pop in here and there. So
Speaker 2: when you look at the Berlin Wildlife Refuge whatever outside
Speaker 2: of Akron, in a while. There's a lot of land there,
Speaker 2: but it's nothing compared to say, Oregon or Washington or something.
Speaker 2: It's just not They just can't compare the two. There's
Speaker 2: so much more land out here, But yet the Sasquatches
Speaker 2: get along just fine back there. And when you get
Speaker 2: down you can put your boots on the ground out there,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, this is deep, dark, jungly stuff.
Speaker 2: No wonder they're in here. They just don't need as
Speaker 2: much of it as I thought. As I thought they
Speaker 2: did before I started learning more about Sasquatches. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like that that misconception that so many people have
Speaker 2: that you have to go in the middle of the
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere to find a Sasquatch. No, you don't.
Speaker 2: Now just right outside of town is totally good enough,
Speaker 2: as long as right outside of town has enough land
Speaker 2: for them the wander around. And it turns out they
Speaker 2: don't need that much. They just don't need that much.
Speaker 2: The more the better, but they don't need that much.
Speaker 3: To be there.
Speaker 2: And the Berlin thing has really really drove that home
Speaker 2: and how deep and dark and weird and spooky a
Speaker 2: place can be even though there's not like you know,
Speaker 2: eighty miles in every direction of wilderness. You know, like
Speaker 2: a lot of us think that that has to be
Speaker 2: the case when you watch, you know, the TV shows,
Speaker 2: and you read the books and all that sort of
Speaker 2: stuff like we all did growing up.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Now, I know there's a squatchy story behind this episode.
Speaker 3: I haven't even seen the episode yet, but the clip
Speaker 3: is titled something Creepy on Creepy Mountain, and the clip
Speaker 3: is of a twelve year old boy describes a face
Speaker 3: to face encounter with the largest legendary creature around, Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: But I know you guys had some interesting stuff happened
Speaker 3: there during the filming of that episode.
Speaker 2: That's got to be Alabama, right, Bobo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was when I had my solo when Tyler.
Speaker 2: Saw it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 4: Was Yeah, we had him right around our camp. I
Speaker 4: thought that that was one of those times I thought
Speaker 4: we were really, really really close to Well, if Tyler
Speaker 4: didn't think it was me, he could have got footage
Speaker 4: that night because he watched the thing. We were walking
Speaker 4: up the road from base camp. We were taking a
Speaker 4: long walk and as we were going up, I pulled
Speaker 4: off to the right side of the road and took
Speaker 4: a leak, you know, and then just kept walking and
Speaker 4: Tyler was coming up behind me. He was a couple
Speaker 4: a couple of hundred yards behind me. As he was
Speaker 4: coming up. When he got about one hundred yards in there,
Speaker 4: he saw something he thought it was me, come out
Speaker 4: of the brush from the other side of the road,
Speaker 4: and it was milling all around where I had peeed.
Speaker 4: Then when Tyler got closer, it went the opposite way
Speaker 4: that came from and went down into that little paller
Speaker 4: that was down below there and went down into there,
Speaker 4: and then I heard Tyler calling my name, going.
Speaker 2: Oh, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Where'd you go? And I'm right here and he's he
Speaker 4: was just like shocked. He's like, wait, you didn't just
Speaker 4: walk over And now I'm over here. And we went
Speaker 4: back and we were thurming a roundings and it came
Speaker 4: up and peede where I peed. It pete over where
Speaker 4: I because you can see, like when my pee was
Speaker 4: already cooled down a lot, as there was like a
Speaker 4: hotter p on top that like what went into the road.
Speaker 4: Like Pete like IPEd there and then like it was
Speaker 4: like you're not marking my turf and went out and
Speaker 4: Pete where I had been and it was probably a
Speaker 4: foot and a half taller than me.
Speaker 3: That's wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was. They came around us that night, and
Speaker 4: then I didn't know that there was like a little
Speaker 4: gully behind the drop off we were out there, there
Speaker 4: was some brush and so we could hear them and
Speaker 4: I was like, how can I not be getting this
Speaker 4: thing on therm? And then because we set up camp
Speaker 4: after dark, so we didn't really know the lay of
Speaker 4: the land that great. We knew like what was around
Speaker 4: us basically, but didn't know like the industy was like, oh,
Speaker 4: they can easily hide down there.
Speaker 3: So that it was cool.
Speaker 4: I mean I was. I always thought I was gonna
Speaker 4: go back there, but I've never been back there since.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never been down to that spot and I'd
Speaker 3: love to check it. I mean, it's not far from
Speaker 3: me up here in Nashville.
Speaker 2: Go. Yeah, it's cool spot, you know. But I think
Speaker 2: we did Auburn night investigations at that location, didn't we.
Speaker 4: I believe. So, Yeah, we went mud rocking with those
Speaker 4: guys and they're big mud bogging trucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was fun. And you know that video is
Speaker 2: not bad either, that video that led us out there. No,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't didn't mind it a bit.
Speaker 3: Did Paul Halsey obtain that? Yeah, you guys know Paul
Speaker 3: passed away recently.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, I had several conversations with Paul over
Speaker 3: the years. First, when I was in the BFRO and
Speaker 3: organizing expeditions, he reached out and we talked, and then
Speaker 3: I met him. I think it was at the Ohio conference.
Speaker 3: I think it was the year that we did the
Speaker 3: Bigfoot trivia, so twenty nineteen, but it was at one
Speaker 3: of those conferences, and I finally met him in person
Speaker 3: and in that bar there at the Salt Fork State
Speaker 3: Park Lodge where we did the trivia, So I think
Speaker 3: it was that year. But yeah, I had heard I
Speaker 3: think it was last year, sometime within the last six
Speaker 3: months or something like that, that unfortunately, Paul had passed away.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. I had no idea. And his
Speaker 2: buddy last name was Bassett, Adam Bassett. Is that right?
Speaker 3: That sounds very familiar. I think I've exchanged emails with Adam.
Speaker 3: That name sounds very familiar.
Speaker 2: I think that's it. And again, if he listens, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I just meet too many people to keep my own
Speaker 2: mind straight. But yeah, those are the guys that got
Speaker 2: that video. And and of course I think I saw
Speaker 2: Paul at the Is there another conference I did down
Speaker 2: in Alabama? Something down there? Yeah, Yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: fun gig too. I think I did it the first
Speaker 2: year it was going on. It was a really fun gig.
Speaker 2: He came out and he shared a bunch of footprint
Speaker 2: cast that he obtained with me. Really cool, really interesting
Speaker 2: stuff that's never really seen the light of day. I
Speaker 2: think Alabama. But I think that's probably pretty safe to
Speaker 2: say that. I think Alabama might be one of the
Speaker 2: unsung heroes of Bigfoot because a lot of stuff happens
Speaker 2: down there, but apparently not a lot of people are
Speaker 2: publishing very much from down there, so no one hears
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a friend who was a long time
Speaker 3: sasquash researcher, like multiple decades, who went by the name
Speaker 3: Talbraanco online. This is sort of a pseudonym, and he
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time in Alabama. He actually published
Speaker 3: a book called the I think it was the Southern
Speaker 3: Bigfoot Files. I'll find it and I'll put a link
Speaker 3: in the show notes. But he was going to publish
Speaker 3: a series from multiple states, but he only ended up
Speaker 3: publishing one specific to Alabama. But it's very interesting. There
Speaker 3: are all cases that he personally investigated. But it is
Speaker 3: a squatchy state, you know. I need to spend more
Speaker 3: time down there. It's just I'm always going back to
Speaker 3: my favorite haunts in Georgia. But it's right down the
Speaker 3: road for me. So maybe I'll start going there more often.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why not. I mean it's not that far
Speaker 2: for me. It looks like it's just pretty much south
Speaker 2: for you, isn't it. This is closer than Georgia. Oh wa,
Speaker 2: it's a lot closer than Georgia. There's areas of South
Speaker 2: Alabama too.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not a big swamps guy, but this guy
Speaker 3: Taalbranco that I was mentioning, he told me once, and
Speaker 3: I've never been down there to check it out. I
Speaker 3: think it is public land. I think there's a wildlife
Speaker 3: management area there. But if any of you South Alabama
Speaker 3: squashes around tow was a real fun you know, very
Speaker 3: southern guy is from Arkansas, and he told me he'd
Speaker 3: always call him Boogers. You know, he'd be like, oh, hell,
Speaker 3: these burgers here and these boggers there. And he once
Speaker 3: told me, he said, if there's any place I got
Speaker 3: more boggers than anywhere else, it's the confluence of the
Speaker 3: tom big Bee and Alabama Rivers. And I forget what
Speaker 3: county of Alabama that's in, but it's a very gnarly,
Speaker 3: thick swampy area close to the southern border of the state,
Speaker 3: and it looks amazing. And he said of all the
Speaker 3: places he'd been repeatedly, that place he thought had the
Speaker 3: most activity. He had really fascinating stories from around there
Speaker 3: too that he had investigated. But I'm a mountains guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know about going and hanging out in those swamps.
Speaker 3: But if any of you guys are close, the confluence
Speaker 3: of the Tom Bigbe and Alabama Rivers is apparently a
Speaker 3: good place to be too many snakes and gators.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.
Speaker 2: Will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Now, one of the recurring characters that we've mentioned very
Speaker 3: often on the podcast, and that has been a guest
Speaker 3: on the podcast. There's a clip of this individual, so
Speaker 3: for those of you who haven't seen him, you can
Speaker 3: see this in the show notes, but I wanted to
Speaker 3: ask if this was the first time you've met him.
Speaker 3: The clip is called two Men and a Ton of
Speaker 3: Footprints in Kentucky. Obviously the team has to Kentucky to
Speaker 3: investigate an impressive selection of supposed bigfootprints, and not even
Speaker 3: Renee can deny their quality.
Speaker 2: Pick that Renee.
Speaker 3: So, was that the first time that you met Tom Shay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. The guy wasn't even on my radar.
Speaker 2: I remember being excited about it because I heard I
Speaker 2: think it was Mantooth. I think a man tooth Sean
Speaker 2: Mantooth was. I think he was a fixer for that one.
Speaker 2: He said that we got a guy. He's got footprint
Speaker 2: casts and stuff. But they didn't really tell me that
Speaker 2: much about it, which is the way of production because
Speaker 2: they want authentic at least our show. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't speak for all shows. Our show wanted authentic
Speaker 2: reactions to what was really going on in the moment,
Speaker 2: you know, so, so they didn't tell me much about
Speaker 2: it except there's gonna be some cool footprint casts and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I remember Tom Shay was there. That dude Rodney
Speaker 2: I think was there. That was it, and we met
Speaker 2: him out in front of Tom's house. Tom still lives there.
Speaker 2: Have been to his house a couple of times since then,
Speaker 2: and they had they had footprints out on the truck bed,
Speaker 2: you know, in the tailgate of the truck bed, and
Speaker 2: I'm looking at these and wellh din'd you get this one?
Speaker 2: He goes, we got that one yesterday and think of
Speaker 2: what no way, you know, And and so that was
Speaker 2: the beginning of a beautiful relationship basically between Tom Shaye
Speaker 2: and I that is still going on to this day.
Speaker 2: I think I spoke to Tom two weeks ago with
Speaker 2: the most I'm in contact with the guy quite often.
Speaker 2: He's become a very very good friend and a mentor
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. Bobo and I actually went
Speaker 2: out I think you were there. You were with me,
Speaker 2: Bobo when we went out there and tracked with him
Speaker 2: for that afternoon. That was great. That was That was
Speaker 2: college for me.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I very often say that I'm not a great tracker,
Speaker 2: and I'm not I'm a hobbyist, you know. But Tom
Speaker 2: is a good a great tracker, you know. And he
Speaker 2: I've had the privilege of tracking with him a couple
Speaker 2: of times and a couple other excellent trackers as well.
Speaker 2: So my education I'd say that three or four hours
Speaker 2: and we spent with Tom Shaye that day out in
Speaker 2: his location was more informative than the previous ten years
Speaker 2: of my big footing. You know. I learned more about
Speaker 2: tracking and the attitude, the thought, the process, the sign,
Speaker 2: the telltale minuscule details and all that sort of stuff
Speaker 2: from that that afternoon of Tom Shade we learned. I
Speaker 2: learned more than ever I think. So I really owed
Speaker 2: Tom a tremendous amount in my education as a big footer,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And of course that night when we went out, I
Speaker 2: remember you and I and Micah I think was our
Speaker 2: producer on it, if I remember correctly, we went out
Speaker 2: to tom spot like where a lot of that Goliath
Speaker 2: data has come from. And I was at the time
Speaker 2: I didn't really appreciate it because I was not as
Speaker 2: familiar with the Tom Shay data as I am now.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Now, Tom's a good friend. I talked to him pretty frequently.
Speaker 2: I have a number of his footprint casts and copies
Speaker 2: and such. We've spent hours on the phone together, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I'm much more familiar with the lower in that particular
Speaker 2: part of Kentucky than I am now. And I got
Speaker 2: to say, looking back, I did not appreciate it for
Speaker 2: what it was at the time, Like going out to
Speaker 2: the spot where a lot of this Goliath stuff came
Speaker 2: from and knowing the fact that the habitat in the
Speaker 2: area is great, of course, but also the ground, the
Speaker 2: substrate itself in that particular part of Kentucky is special
Speaker 2: because it holds footprints for quite a while that it rains,
Speaker 2: and then the ground expands because the water content then
Speaker 2: dries off later and then keeps more or less the
Speaker 2: same shape. But this sorts of print a little bit.
Speaker 2: The bottom line there you can find tracks there in
Speaker 2: the ground, impressed into the ground two or three, four
Speaker 2: or five inches that had been there six months prior
Speaker 2: to that event. Just to think of that, we were
Speaker 2: walking around in that stuff without really even looking down,
Speaker 2: because it was nighttime and we're walking through brambles and
Speaker 2: rose hips and all that stuff. We were probably walking
Speaker 2: over a fair number of sasquatch tracks without even being
Speaker 2: aware of it at the time.
Speaker 4: Probably had more than once.
Speaker 2: Oh, I guarantee it, I guarantee it. I think it
Speaker 2: happened to me yesterday. Man, I was out for the
Speaker 2: woods for a while yesterday, and I kept yeah, I
Speaker 2: found a very old trackway and I kept stepping on
Speaker 2: part like it. I go, well, look it over here,
Speaker 2: and then I realized I'm standing on top of another track.
Speaker 2: It's like, gosh, darn it. But they were too old
Speaker 2: to do anything with anyway. But still, yeah, it certainly happens,
Speaker 2: probably a lot more than anybody realizes. But yeah, when
Speaker 2: you look back. When I look back at the Finding
Speaker 2: Bigfoot episodes, and a couple of them really really stand
Speaker 2: out in various ways. And that one where I got
Speaker 2: to meet Tom Shay was a lot more important, it
Speaker 2: turns out than I anticipated at the time. Now that
Speaker 2: I look back, Yeah, that was a very important episode.
Speaker 2: At the time, I just thought it was rad, but
Speaker 2: looking back now, I realized that it was, you know,
Speaker 2: a turning point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally knew we had someone's specials like talking
Speaker 4: to and seeing this stuff. I was like, no one's
Speaker 4: heard this guy is the best squasher in the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of set the bar for me, like
Speaker 2: everybody seen in Bigfoot Land or not everybody, But I'm
Speaker 2: jaded and I'm an old man. You'll let the kids
Speaker 2: get off my lawn. I totally realize that. But it
Speaker 2: set the bar for me, and in a way that
Speaker 2: looking around at the landscape of bigfooters, everybody's screaming, look
Speaker 2: at me, look at what I'm doing, Look look look me, me, me, me,
Speaker 2: And here's this guy, quiet, humble, nobody really has heard
Speaker 2: of them at that time, and just doing the best
Speaker 2: work out of anybody. It really, it taught me, It
Speaker 2: put things, It calibrated the landscape for me in a
Speaker 2: different way where now I appreciate the people who aren't
Speaker 2: doing you know, public shrieking about their own situation. It's
Speaker 2: like the ones who are quietly working in the background,
Speaker 2: regardless of anything or anybody else, those are the ones
Speaker 2: that are the most respect for me, For me at least,
Speaker 2: you know, Tom really put that on the board for me.
Speaker 3: Oh agreed. But speaking of best researchers in the country,
Speaker 3: there is an epic thirteen minute compilation on this Animal
Speaker 3: Planet thing. I'll also put their whole playlist, because the
Speaker 3: playlist for finding bigfoots like one hundred and seventy eight
Speaker 3: clips long. This is a compilation called Bobo proves Why
Speaker 3: He's the top Sasquatch investigator really, and so it's like
Speaker 3: a compilation of clips, and I was scrolled through the
Speaker 3: comments and things like, Bobo, You're the best and the
Speaker 3: cutest girl I've ever seen. Another person says Yo Bobo
Speaker 3: is the new top g So what else says? Bobo
Speaker 3: is definitely the greatest ever bigfoot investigator on Earth. Love him,
Speaker 3: huge fan from Bangladesh. It's just a whole bunch of.
Speaker 4: A whole bunch of nonsense, a whole bunch of Bobo love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody loves themselves of Bobo. One of the top
Speaker 2: questions I get when I go to do these road gigs,
Speaker 2: how's my Bobo? You belong to everybody? There's just not
Speaker 2: enough Bobo to go around.
Speaker 4: They tell me that I'm there, But when I see
Speaker 4: them too, like you're ma bo all that was my Bobo.
Speaker 3: So by the time this airs, maybe you will have
Speaker 3: heard it. But you haven't heard it yet as we're recording,
Speaker 3: because it hasn't been released yet. But in your absence,
Speaker 3: Cliff and I realized like we'd forgot to bring up
Speaker 3: that it was your birthday recently and all the birthday love.
Speaker 3: And then I went on a bit of a soliloquy
Speaker 3: about how bunch of my field research I owe to
Speaker 3: your influence on mysterious encounters and such, but now, and
Speaker 3: we were like, we should have settled this while Bobo
Speaker 3: was on the horn with us, but we were trying
Speaker 3: to cram before you went to the dead. So happy
Speaker 3: birthday once again. There was tons of birthday love, loads
Speaker 3: of comments, but I figured I should probably tell you
Speaker 3: that officially.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I feel like a terrible friend because I
Speaker 2: remembered tomorrow's Boba's birthday, and then it came, and then
Speaker 2: I remembered Bobo's birthday, like at midnight. Completely missed your birthday.
Speaker 2: And I think this is the first time in probably
Speaker 2: almost twenty years that I didn't wish you a happy birthday.
Speaker 2: So wow, okay, I care. I care. I try to
Speaker 2: hold myself to a higher level of friendship than that.
Speaker 3: Were you on the field trip that day, right, Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was. I was. I was out camping for those days,
Speaker 4: so like I came back, Yeah, I came back in
Speaker 4: a phone range. I was going to make a call
Speaker 4: and I couldn't dial for like twenty thirty minutes because
Speaker 4: I just kept just was loading. One was notifying me
Speaker 4: of a new text message or voicemail. Every everyone with
Speaker 4: wasn't like you have eighty messages. It was like, you
Speaker 4: have a new I could I got something. Let me
Speaker 4: make a call and to do another one, another one
Speaker 4: another one. I was like, oh my god, I got
Speaker 4: so many people to get back too.
Speaker 2: That was my gift to you, not wishing you a
Speaker 2: happy birthday.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Every year when I post the happy Birthday Bobo posts
Speaker 3: on all the big thing and beyond socials, those are
Speaker 3: always the most engaged with and commented on posts every
Speaker 3: single year.
Speaker 2: And are you forty three again? For forty seven? All right?
Speaker 2: Getting up there?
Speaker 4: That is too funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's so many clips in this playlist,
Speaker 3: so I don't know how many more we want to
Speaker 3: go over, if there's any other stories that come to mind,
Speaker 3: But maybe we could do this as a recurring thing, yeah,
Speaker 3: just to let the audience know Cliffs about to be
Speaker 3: on the road for some travel and stuff. And so
Speaker 3: we were like, oh, let's take this opportunity to record episodes.
Speaker 3: So we kind of came up with this concept very
Speaker 3: very quickly. But you know, next time we can hand
Speaker 3: pick a number of clips and you guys will have
Speaker 3: a few advanced days of advance notice so you can refamiliarize.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, here's this and that, you know.
Speaker 2: And whatever it's worth.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: If there's any other show ideas, feel free to submit them.
Speaker 2: And we're always looking for stuff to talk about. We
Speaker 2: don't guests are not easy to wrangle because of all
Speaker 2: of our schedules and the limitations I have and when
Speaker 2: I can be able to record, and Bobo's got a
Speaker 2: job and all this other stuff. So if you have
Speaker 2: ideas for show ideas, my God, share them with us, please.
Speaker 2: We'd love to hear about it, and we'd love them.
Speaker 2: Maybe if it's just like recurring segment that we do
Speaker 2: every once in a while, it'd be a lot of fun,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I don't know taste test stuff.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, like whatever you think would be
Speaker 2: fun to listen to us three weirdos talk about, you know, indeed,
Speaker 2: So what's up with those shirts? Are the shirts ready
Speaker 2: to be bought yet? Like the brand new Bruce Lee
Speaker 2: styled shirts designed and approved by Matt PRUITTT the.
Speaker 3: Shirts are live on the website, so if you click
Speaker 3: the link in the show notes, to the big fin
Speaker 3: and beyond merch. The twenty twenty five shirt design is
Speaker 3: out there now. We made it available to members first
Speaker 3: and it's been a hit there. Brandon told me that
Speaker 3: we've already sold As of this recording, the shirt's been
Speaker 3: live for two days for members, and he said we've
Speaker 3: sold more of those than any other design. So I'm
Speaker 3: feeling slightly victorious all the exactly at this point in time.
Speaker 3: And so those shirts are available, and I think he's
Speaker 3: doing hoodies too. It looks like he's getting a hoodie listing.
Speaker 3: So I know summer's come, but if you want to
Speaker 3: get a hoodie, if you live in a cold state,
Speaker 3: or if you want to be prepared for fall and winter,
Speaker 3: hoodies will be available as well, So check the link
Speaker 3: in the show notes for those I knew it.
Speaker 4: I told everyone that Fruits design would be number one.
Speaker 3: And I was right.
Speaker 2: I can't even tell the difference between the regular Bobo
Speaker 2: and then Bobo cop.
Speaker 4: That was my moneymaker.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a you know, if you do get
Speaker 2: an expanded soundboard, we definitely need some money makers things
Speaker 2: in there too.
Speaker 3: That should absolutely happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we still have the members saying the record
Speaker 2: here should we go on and hop on and do that?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 2: Give you to.
Speaker 3: I feel like I have like unlimited power in my fingertips.
Speaker 4: Don't get your fingers broke?
Speaker 2: All right, Bob? Why don't getus out of here? Man?
Speaker 4: I get yeah, Well, all right, folks, thanks for tuning
Speaker 4: in and joining us. We're going to join our Patreon
Speaker 4: family now for some more. Every week we do another
Speaker 4: hour for our members and we're heading there now, so
Speaker 4: come join us beyond Bigfoot and Beyond. And so this
Speaker 4: is a wrap up on Bigfoot and Beyond. So until
Speaker 4: next week, y'all keep it beyond. No, not beyond squatchy,
Speaker 4: you just keep it squatchy.
Speaker 3: Best.
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