Speaker 1: Oh well, that's a.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is
Speaker 3: Jonathan and today we bring forth the Biblical hit Man.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show for the first time.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's up, guys. Thank you for having us much man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: So for anybody that doesn't know the Biblical hit Men,
Speaker 3: we had the the pleasure of meeting them at Brohemian
Speaker 3: Grove and it was really awesome. We had them up
Speaker 3: on stage and actually, what we're going to do is
Speaker 3: is we're going to attach our hour that we did
Speaker 3: at Brohemian Grove at the end of this episode so
Speaker 3: that anybody wants to if you want to skip forward,
Speaker 3: you want to listen all the way through. These guys
Speaker 3: were up on up on stage with us for a
Speaker 3: little while and we were like.
Speaker 2: That's probably a good idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's it was a lot of
Speaker 3: fun and so everybody will be able to get a
Speaker 3: little taste of it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's great talking to you guys here.
Speaker 3: We've been whenever we talked over there, you know, we
Speaker 3: had wanted to we were wanting to schedule this and
Speaker 3: so yeah, it's a it's nice to have you guys,
Speaker 3: So thank you Steven and Jesse. For anybody that doesn't know,
Speaker 3: if you can tell the good cult members you know
Speaker 3: a little bit about your show and maybe where they
Speaker 3: can find you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so names Stephen.
Speaker 6: I'm from the Central Florida area, one of the hosts
Speaker 6: of The Biblical hit Man. You could find all of
Speaker 6: our content pretty much primarily on Instagram and YouTube. You
Speaker 6: could also check our audio content on Spreaker, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
Speaker 6: all those platforms you consume your podcasts at. And on
Speaker 6: the audio side of things, we we have our uncensored material,
Speaker 6: so it kind of is like a little bit more
Speaker 6: of a bonus if if you go over there, you'll
Speaker 6: you'll get all the uncensored stuff. Unfortunately, you know, we're
Speaker 6: trying to keep a channel alive on YouTube and the
Speaker 6: things we get into. I mean, I've seen your guys' content,
Speaker 6: great stuff. We talk about a lot of the similar
Speaker 6: material and it's a tough world to you know, survive
Speaker 6: on platforms in today. So but with all that, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm joined by my two other uh you know, hosts,
Speaker 6: Jesse and Taylor. Taylor Unfortunately he's not here tonight. He's working.
Speaker 6: He's uh, he's the guy with the tattoos all over
Speaker 6: his face on our emblem, but he's doing overnight security
Speaker 6: and all that. So shout out to appreciate these guys
Speaker 6: that I work with. Man, I'm really the show isn't
Speaker 6: anything without these guys, so loving very much all.
Speaker 4: Oh that feels so good to hear.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm Jesse and I'm a residential plumber out here
Speaker 7: in Las Vegas, Nevada. And uh, it's a pleasure to
Speaker 7: be on the podcast, gentlemen, thank you for having us.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I want to ask the name Biblical hitman. It's
Speaker 1: a solid name, right, Where did that come from? And
Speaker 1: also with the whole biblical anything, do y'all delve more
Speaker 1: into the biblical side of things?
Speaker 2: Are you all Christian? Of what denomination? Where? In this? Uh?
Speaker 2: This lit miss do y'all fall?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's it's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 6: We had a before we rebranded our show, we were
Speaker 6: called Remnant Warriors Podcast. But the term Biblical hit Man
Speaker 6: kind of came to me all of a sudden. It
Speaker 6: was like some sort of like whatever you call it,
Speaker 6: synchronous or meant to be fate and you know. I
Speaker 6: was like, hey, listen, guys, we're gonna turn this up
Speaker 6: a notch.
Speaker 5: You know. You know, we've we've gathered a lot of.
Speaker 6: Learning processes through I think we were together for like
Speaker 6: six months or something, or maybe three months, but we
Speaker 6: learned how to kind of formulate a show, and so
Speaker 6: we rebranded and we came in hot as you know,
Speaker 6: the Biblical Hitman, and.
Speaker 4: Well, I was never a part of the original show,
Speaker 4: to be clear.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was doing MMA content and I had almost
Speaker 7: I'm forgetting my name. Jesse t Baby was my MMA
Speaker 7: content name, my channel, and I love I still to
Speaker 7: this day, loved the whole the whole MMA content stuff.
Speaker 4: It's it's not easy to keep up with.
Speaker 7: And I was thinking about getting media badges and going
Speaker 7: to the you know, because I'm in Vegas. So it's like, I,
Speaker 7: you know, I have a much better opportunity of getting
Speaker 7: a hold of stuff like that. But then I Stevie
Speaker 7: just kind of reeled me in, and.
Speaker 4: Uh, the rest is history.
Speaker 7: I quit the MMA content and I was like, you
Speaker 7: know what, I'm just gonna, you know, do this full
Speaker 7: time because it's really my heart really lies is with
Speaker 7: this this chat or this this channel.
Speaker 6: Yeah real quick. Like me and Jesse, we go way
Speaker 6: back to almost like birth. Our families have been connected
Speaker 6: for you know, years longer than we've been alive pretty much,
Speaker 6: and you know, we've known each other since I mean
Speaker 6: pretty much. We could walk and talk and Google Gaga together.
Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, we were we were like, hey,
Speaker 6: let's do this podcast thing. You know, we at first
Speaker 6: we were all into kind of the conspiracies and the
Speaker 6: biblical realm and some things through that nature that lens
Speaker 6: and really we we the podcast kind of started to
Speaker 6: transform a little bit. It started to get to a
Speaker 6: point to where we're gonna have everyone on, Like this
Speaker 6: isn't gonna be like your normal Christian podcast whatever. We're
Speaker 6: gonna have everyone on because number one, we're like way
Speaker 6: more focused on building relationships and friendships with people. You know,
Speaker 6: we don't have to always like see eye to eye
Speaker 6: with things. And that's the thing with that's so controversial
Speaker 6: with our culture today, you know. And we're trying to
Speaker 6: come in and just be fruitful, right and just kind
Speaker 6: of just shared love, right, and and we can all
Speaker 6: see things from a different angle and that that's okay,
Speaker 6: you know, And really I think The biggest thing too,
Speaker 6: is we're trying to just show that we have a
Speaker 6: lot of respect for everyone and anyone that we get
Speaker 6: on on this show, and and it's it's really kind
Speaker 6: of like a journey, you know, and.
Speaker 5: We're we're a little bit new to it.
Speaker 6: You know, we've been doing this six seven months, and
Speaker 6: really we've been gathering a lot of golden nuggets from people.
Speaker 6: Even though we have, like, you know, differences in opinion,
Speaker 6: it's like, dude, golden nuggets. We see things, we come
Speaker 6: to certain conclusions together and we're like, dude, you're my friend.
Speaker 6: Let's go get lunch.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That's what makes this show what it is.
Speaker 1: Honestly, with the Cult of Conspiracy, Jonathan and I come
Speaker 1: from very different backgrounds as far as the spiritual side
Speaker 1: of things, historical side of the scientific side of things.
Speaker 1: But like you said, it's the differences and the back
Speaker 1: and forth of that conversation that make the show the
Speaker 1: content that it is.
Speaker 2: So I feel that one hundred.
Speaker 4: Percent, right, yeah, man.
Speaker 7: The networking and just you know, I made it a
Speaker 7: point like there's a blueprint for podcasting a successful podcasting.
Speaker 7: It's been out for a while follow that blueprint. Joe
Speaker 7: Rogan is doing it, Sam Tripley is doing it, all
Speaker 7: these other podcasts are doing it. And you just have
Speaker 7: good conversations with a bunch of random people, is really
Speaker 7: what it is, you know. And we do try to
Speaker 7: see everything through a biblical lens. Of course, we do
Speaker 7: get into that we have a lot of Christian we
Speaker 7: are Christians. I wouldn't consider any of us really a
Speaker 7: part of any denomination by the way.
Speaker 4: I know you asked that earlier, so non nominational.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't even get into all that, to
Speaker 6: be honest with you. It's just more like when you
Speaker 6: get into that kind of stuff, it's almost like it's
Speaker 6: a social way to look at the religion or the
Speaker 6: belief system, whatever it is, and you get these little
Speaker 6: groups that just kind of start to fight amongst each other.
Speaker 6: That's that is kind of like how I see it,
Speaker 6: because a lot of theological positions can be different from
Speaker 6: you know, each and every one of them. Right, So,
Speaker 6: and that's what I'm I mean by golden nuggets, Right.
Speaker 6: You know, you might listen to every denomination and maybe
Speaker 6: gather your own conclusion of things. You know, it's like
Speaker 6: you don't have to always believe what a certain uh
Speaker 6: you know, denomination says or is dogmatic over because a
Speaker 6: lot of things that are like rooted in tradition, all
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Feel that a lot we I'll have conversations with, for instance,
Speaker 1: Roman Catholics, and I am seen as a weird brand
Speaker 1: of Christianity because I believe that Roman Catholics can be
Speaker 1: quote unquote saved following their traditions as much as a
Speaker 1: Eastern Orthodox or a Coptic can be quote unquote saved
Speaker 1: based off of their traditions. But it's like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: we're going to really break it all down, do you
Speaker 1: believe that you can be saved without believing in transubstantiation right?
Speaker 1: Or do you believe that calling Mary the Mother of
Speaker 1: God is blasphemous?
Speaker 2: I believe that that is the correct way.
Speaker 1: And it's like I enjoy those conversations for the death
Speaker 1: of it and for the not necessarily the debate of it,
Speaker 1: but also for the conversation, right, the sharing of information
Speaker 1: and the sharing of knowledge, of the sharing of positions
Speaker 1: and all these things. But bro, and I've had this
Speaker 1: conversation with quite a few people. I feel like we
Speaker 1: miss the forest for the fucking trees when we get
Speaker 1: so lost in this little tidbit of dogma rather than
Speaker 1: recognizing the overarching theme that was the birth of Christ
Speaker 1: and the death of Christ and all these things. And
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, you're over here like trying to re
Speaker 1: quote Moses to me when we don't even live by
Speaker 1: Moses's words these days, and it's they get so lost
Speaker 1: in the weeds and they miss the point. But it's like,
Speaker 1: to y'all's point, also, like I'm not the type that
Speaker 1: believes that we should like go to blows over this
Speaker 1: like that. You know, for instance Ireland with the whole
Speaker 1: Catholic versus Protestant wars that had been brought that takes
Speaker 1: away from the fucking message, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We can have these debates, open source conversations. We can
Speaker 1: agree to disagree, and we can all be better for
Speaker 1: the conversation and educate each other for the conversation without
Speaker 1: shitting on each other in the process.
Speaker 3: So the the deplorable unsavable, I will say, r r
Speaker 3: P to the d r I P to the Druids,
Speaker 3: the the original Wizards, the original gangsters of the spiritual world,
Speaker 3: if it wasn't, if it wasn't for the damn Irish
Speaker 3: and and and all the Catholic wars, we might still
Speaker 3: have a wizard today.
Speaker 4: But unfortunateilarious.
Speaker 2: Last remnants of the Druids.
Speaker 1: The Isle of Man was the last spot where the
Speaker 1: Druids had some sort of a stronghold. The Irish try
Speaker 1: to keep them alive as long as possible, but those
Speaker 1: those damn Romans came in.
Speaker 6: How's the what's the saying? Go, last of the sorcerers,
Speaker 6: first of the scientists.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's quote quote.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of weird stuff, you know,
Speaker 6: with the missus, with the mysticism of our reality. You know,
Speaker 6: it's so funny. And Brohiman grew up, you know, you
Speaker 6: guys brought up like the question. You know the aliens,
Speaker 6: you know, go, And it's so funny because that that's
Speaker 6: something we all have in common, Like believe what you want,
Speaker 6: that's cool, right, I believe in everyone in their liberty
Speaker 6: right and the agency over their liberty. That that is
Speaker 6: the human experience. But the thing is we all have
Speaker 6: that in common. The alien talk, right, we went through
Speaker 6: it together, you know, And what is that? You know,
Speaker 6: it's it's Jesse's grandma, by the way, Grandma Al.
Speaker 4: We gotta make t shirts, dude.
Speaker 6: You'll check it at the end of the show here
Speaker 6: right with that segment attached.
Speaker 2: But what what country is she from? Just curious?
Speaker 7: Uh, I have an Italian grandmother, and then I have
Speaker 7: uh like Mutt German, Irish, Italian, Polish grandmother, Dutch grandmother.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I figured his joke was like, you know,
Speaker 3: an alien from another country or something like that.
Speaker 8: I I was.
Speaker 7: I was under the influence of tiredness and alcohol, so
Speaker 7: I was just rambling on about nonsense.
Speaker 6: Just's justice. At Theesse he's at the bar. I see
Speaker 6: him ordering a drink. He goes, hey, give me a
Speaker 6: Jack and cook, right, And I think, you know, he
Speaker 6: was getting another guy a drink.
Speaker 5: You know, just I was getting guys just throwing tickets
Speaker 5: like they're ones. Right.
Speaker 6: But uh, he goes there, He's like, hey, jack and
Speaker 6: cook please, right. So the older lady she goes, she
Speaker 6: fills the cup up with ice, right, a nice little
Speaker 6: ten ounce class or plus. The cup starts pouring. Probably
Speaker 6: had a t i A which is like a mini stroke,
Speaker 6: and she just held it there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she looks stared at the ceiling. She was like
Speaker 4: staring at the ceiling top.
Speaker 1: So for anybody who didn't know, this brohemian grove was
Speaker 1: hailed at a moose lodge. And the Moose Lodge bar
Speaker 1: is not a bar for cash. They're making their money regardless,
Speaker 1: just off the entry fees. So like the bar tener,
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. She'll heavy hand a fog out
Speaker 1: of it, which is, you know, right and proper, but proper.
Speaker 7: I have a funny story about the Moose Lodge as well,
Speaker 7: because I went across the way to get some food
Speaker 7: for Doc as well. Doc was like, man, I'm hungry,
Speaker 7: the food's not ready or whatever, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 7: I got you, I got you. I'm gonna go on
Speaker 7: a mission real quick. I'll be right back. So I
Speaker 7: go into the moose Lodge on the other side and
Speaker 7: it's a bunch of like eighty year old women on
Speaker 7: oxygen tanks that are like all singing karaoke.
Speaker 2: As most moose lodges are, by the way.
Speaker 7: But continue, I'm like, what this is awesome? What's going
Speaker 7: on here? And then somebody walked up to me and
Speaker 7: they're like, you can't be in here. This is members only,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, oh, my bad, and I try to
Speaker 7: walk away, and then the old man that was singing
Speaker 7: carry he goes, wait stop, he goes, but are you
Speaker 7: gonna sing a song? And I go, ah, yes, I will,
Speaker 7: and he's like, here's your member tag. They slapped a
Speaker 7: member sticker on me, and I was able to order
Speaker 7: probably some of the best chicken fingers and chicken wings
Speaker 7: I've had in a.
Speaker 4: Very long time. It was it was really good food.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But then I made Taylor sing instead, so I
Speaker 7: brought him over the tattoo guy and all the old
Speaker 7: ladies were probably like, what in the hell is going
Speaker 7: on tonight?
Speaker 6: Oh there was some of the wild experiences there, dude,
Speaker 6: I had. And so we go back from the from
Speaker 6: that section into the Brohemian grove right where the bathroom connects,
Speaker 6: and I'm just walking. I'm hanging out with Taylor and
Speaker 6: this lady comes up to me and she's like, I
Speaker 6: want it in.
Speaker 5: The ass real bad.
Speaker 9: I heard that.
Speaker 5: That hooked my arm.
Speaker 6: Like we were walking down the aisle together and then
Speaker 6: she's like come on, and I'm like, I'm married and.
Speaker 1: She was seven to do this, so hold on, I
Speaker 1: don't understand that we were right by one of the
Speaker 1: largest swinger colonies in the country. Correct, Yes, And so
Speaker 1: we actually stayed our air and BnB was in the village,
Speaker 1: and we had a golf cart in the garage.
Speaker 2: We had a plan to throw all the.
Speaker 1: Different colored loofahs on the back because that's how they
Speaker 1: signify what they're down with.
Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to because just time didn't permit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and so some old lady at the Moose
Speaker 1: Lodge saying all these wild things.
Speaker 2: This kind of sounds like another day and flow rider
Speaker 2: to me, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know absolutely you would hook up at I would
Speaker 3: think I would think so.
Speaker 6: Well, especially right when you walked into Walmart right there
Speaker 6: at the front like on sale where loofahs and there
Speaker 6: was five six different colors.
Speaker 5: You know that they know what's going on.
Speaker 6: And really, you know, you know, you google the meaning
Speaker 6: of the loofahs in the village's you know, Florida location,
Speaker 6: and you'll get a bunch of conspiracy this that you know,
Speaker 6: f that dude go to red you actually get the
Speaker 6: real meanings of the right things are implying. And it's crazy, dude,
Speaker 6: because we we went to breakfast one of the mornings
Speaker 6: after the first night, right, and so that second day
Speaker 6: we go to breakfast and boom, what do you see?
Speaker 6: We see two or three golf carts in the in
Speaker 6: the parking lot. They got little parking spots for them,
Speaker 6: and the screws lime. Yes, yes, super cool golf carts.
Speaker 6: Shout out to all those people winging it, dude, they're
Speaker 6: spending their retirement money like crazy, dude. But we saw
Speaker 6: these lime green lufahs on both sides, right, passenger and driver,
Speaker 6: and we looked it up and had something to do
Speaker 6: with it. Was like empathetic and genuine but swingers, and
Speaker 6: it was like, oh, maybe they're not so kinky. Maybe
Speaker 6: they're just more of like that the simple route. I
Speaker 6: don't know that green light is what they meant. That's exactly, bro,
Speaker 6: that's exactly the party. That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 7: I said that that means a green light, like we're going,
Speaker 7: We're good to go.
Speaker 1: There's there's all kinds of different colors. One signifies that
Speaker 1: it's like soft swing. One signifies like specifically in the
Speaker 1: swing life, what they're down with basically, where they're down with.
Speaker 2: You putting it.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not that guy, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: these old cats that have been living in the village
Speaker 1: for fifteen years, they know what they're after.
Speaker 4: You know, they're settled in their ways.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: We stayed in the villages too, by the way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I forget where exactly it was, what the little
Speaker 6: neighborhood was called or whatever.
Speaker 2: But because there's a bunch of nice spot it was
Speaker 2: a really nice spot.
Speaker 4: Was it was good. It was it was a good
Speaker 4: It was a good time.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: It was a good time. And we're only I'm only
Speaker 6: an hour away from there, so I was close. You know,
Speaker 6: I work in the city not too far from there,
Speaker 6: and and I'm looking forward to Brohemian Grove four. I'm
Speaker 6: sure that's going to be crazy again all that kind
Speaker 6: of stuff.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I went up the top. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 7: when's the next one? He's like, stop it, this is
Speaker 7: too much work. Do not ask me that right now.
Speaker 1: When you asked Dave and it's aka Top Lobster and
Speaker 1: Raven like specifically, they both are like, no, brother's the
Speaker 1: last one.
Speaker 2: We're doing. This is too much headache. Pop up up.
Speaker 1: Then you ask like two hours later and they're like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we're absolutely doing it. Absolutely yeah, yeah, it depends on
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 4: Wild.
Speaker 3: It was a wild, wild evening. And to be honest,
Speaker 3: like so, we went to the one last year for
Speaker 3: bro Growth two and we thought that was crazy, Like
Speaker 3: we thought that it was pretty fucking unhinged, to be
Speaker 3: real with you, and this year it was just like
Speaker 3: I was like, what fucking parallel dimension that I wake
Speaker 3: up in? Because this is every single like within a
Speaker 3: minute of every single minute that was recorded, something would
Speaker 3: have gotten canceled off of YouTube, every single Yeah. And
Speaker 3: you know what, it was weird because we were like
Speaker 3: the normal ones, and we're not used to being the
Speaker 3: normal ones in any crowd, and yet we were like
Speaker 3: the most like well, I guess we're just like I
Speaker 3: guess we're just not as wild as these people are.
Speaker 2: Then I don't know, Yeah I'm the tame one.
Speaker 1: Then it like legit, if I am the tame one,
Speaker 1: then we really need to reevaluate where we are, And
Speaker 1: like I was just.
Speaker 2: Like, damn, here we are?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 1: And I was even talking to the old Shields, right, oh,
Speaker 1: Jake Shields about me. I do armored fighting, right, so
Speaker 1: as you we talking about you do MMA content, I
Speaker 1: do armored m m A.
Speaker 2: I do boohert, which is nice.
Speaker 7: You're the guy that does that, okay, dude, am I?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well that's that's the acts I really use.
Speaker 1: That's one of my helmets I used for team melees
Speaker 1: like five on five's and ship and then so here
Speaker 1: I was talking to Jake Shields about all this, and
Speaker 1: I realized, like, why am I one of the most
Speaker 1: normal people in this room?
Speaker 2: This is very strange for me.
Speaker 7: I'm not used to this, but like, here we are.
Speaker 7: Jake definitely felt the same way. He was like, what
Speaker 7: am I doing here right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was. He was a crazy dude, crazy fucking night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was crazy.
Speaker 7: The comedians that were there, they are some of the
Speaker 7: most controversial comedians of our time. Right now, which was
Speaker 7: the purpose? Which was the purpose? That's the bar that
Speaker 7: they set. And it was a fabulous show. My favorite
Speaker 7: part of the show was Toad singing I know that.
Speaker 2: That was about to be your answer?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was good. I was like, he's doing a good,
Speaker 4: decent job.
Speaker 6: Is it bad that I listened to it? Like on
Speaker 6: the way to work after all of this, like that,
Speaker 6: I mean, maybe one Benjamin made a little thing on
Speaker 6: Instagram or something I was like, this is this is catchy?
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Toad was surprisingly like talented. I thought, I was damn.
Speaker 2: Toad, all right. I mean I'm like, all right, this
Speaker 2: is actually decent. Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was what a fucking wild night.
Speaker 3: And then there was the the I don't know what
Speaker 3: the hell was going on with the two basically naked
Speaker 3: guys that were on stage wearing baby oil. I it
Speaker 3: was strange seeing Toad in like a blowjob mask or
Speaker 3: whatever that's called mask?
Speaker 2: What is it? I don't you know what.
Speaker 4: I just bondage.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I got you, dog, I got you for all the free.
Speaker 6: I just got to go into Spencer's Bro. Spencers make
Speaker 6: a left and right. You're right there, dude.
Speaker 7: That's when I walked out of the That's when I
Speaker 7: walked out of the show to go to the Moose Lodge.
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, these guys are all oiled
Speaker 7: up with their shirts off on stage, perfect time to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the more it was one of
Speaker 3: the more unhinged things I've ever seen. I was like,
Speaker 3: this really is a lodge, and there really is a
Speaker 3: ritual transpiring right in front of our face. And then
Speaker 3: I started to look inward and I was like, am
Speaker 3: I part of this ritual?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Dude?
Speaker 2: Oh my, I mean real shit.
Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove does the Cremation of care right where they
Speaker 1: burn an effigy of a quote unquote fake person.
Speaker 2: It's a real person.
Speaker 1: We know that pro Grove did some kind of I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say ritual.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say sacrifice. What we can call whatever
Speaker 2: we want to.
Speaker 1: At this point, it's just words, humiliation, sit y'all took it.
Speaker 1: Y'all took it out of my mouth, and I agree.
Speaker 1: And it's like, man, when I see the greased up
Speaker 1: toad in the gip mask, it's boy, man, this is
Speaker 1: what I thought it.
Speaker 2: Was gonna be. But all right, here we are.
Speaker 7: He's ready to do it at all, like he's gonna
Speaker 7: sell out.
Speaker 1: Really no choice, he has no choice. He lost his
Speaker 1: job because of that song.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: How about the guy that looked like a human action
Speaker 6: figure up on the stage too?
Speaker 5: What was that dude?
Speaker 6: That guy was like like ridiculously checked.
Speaker 5: I probably sound super gay right now?
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know who Tower Gang?
Speaker 5: I think?
Speaker 1: So I can't think of his name, white dude, kind
Speaker 1: of ginger ridiculously, just.
Speaker 2: Like Alex or Alex or something like that, wasn't it.
Speaker 5: Something like that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, you're being very gay right now, Stevie.
Speaker 4: That super you gay.
Speaker 2: I mean, he is a fireman.
Speaker 7: But let's go, yo, did you ever do any of
Speaker 7: those calendars, Stevie, No, dude, No, no.
Speaker 1: We were talking about that, how like. And I tell
Speaker 1: women who are in the dating game not to get
Speaker 1: with cops, firefighters, first responders, or military members. And I
Speaker 1: tell them to at least wait a good five years
Speaker 1: before dating somebody who was in that field for numerous reasons.
Speaker 1: Cops alcoholic abusers right by and large, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: drunk and beat the shit out of you, and then
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to report to their superiors and they're
Speaker 1: gonna get away with it because their superiors are their homeboys.
Speaker 2: That's how that works.
Speaker 1: Firefighters are glorified frat boys. They think they're hot shit
Speaker 1: when they're kind of not. But they kind of.
Speaker 2: Are, but they know they are.
Speaker 1: And it's a whole thing veterans, because I mean there's
Speaker 1: a long list.
Speaker 2: As a marine vet, I can speak, there's.
Speaker 1: A whole litany of things to where this is red
Speaker 1: flag central. But for some reason girls think, oh I
Speaker 1: can change him. It's like, bitch, you ain't got no clue.
Speaker 1: First responders they all got PTSD of their own regards, and.
Speaker 2: It's like, just give them some time to acclimate to.
Speaker 7: Be speaking to those speaking to the women part of it.
Speaker 7: My brother's twenty two years navy. He just retired last August,
Speaker 7: and he I remember him going through in dating some
Speaker 7: of the girls in the Navy and it.
Speaker 4: Was like, ew, bad idea, bad idea.
Speaker 7: I think there's only two bad idea, bad idea, and it.
Speaker 4: Did not go well.
Speaker 2: You know, so it can go well because it's kind
Speaker 2: of like a.
Speaker 1: Workplace romances don't typically work out well because as soon
Speaker 1: as things go south, which statistically speaking, they're going to
Speaker 1: go south, that drama will follow you to the workplace. However,
Speaker 1: dating somebody who understands the lifestyle and how your head
Speaker 1: works and y'all can understand and speak the same lingo,
Speaker 1: that's invaluable. Right, There's something to be said for that,
Speaker 1: But also it's the probability of that working out to
Speaker 1: the positive is so so minute that it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: why you're at a military base, you can go out
Speaker 1: in town and find something. You don't have to, you know,
Speaker 1: go to your office to find I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had guys monings. I did the same shit, and
Speaker 2: it was like, bro, why but why?
Speaker 4: Yeah? The Navy's funny.
Speaker 7: It's like you're stuck out it in the ocean for
Speaker 7: like two months at a time. And during COVID, they
Speaker 7: my brother's ship that he was on, uh hit the
Speaker 7: record for being out out at sea. I can't remember
Speaker 7: how long it was, but he said they set the
Speaker 7: record because it was COVID and they had they like
Speaker 7: forced them to stay out there. Yeah, it's ridiculous. That
Speaker 7: was ridiculous. I'm sorry if I'm hitting all the buzzwords
Speaker 7: that you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to add, you're good, dude.
Speaker 1: When I got out, there was no more combat deployments
Speaker 1: going on. We stopped the big forward combat advancements in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: I got out in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: They were like it was time to re enlist, and
Speaker 1: it was also under Obama, so they were trying to
Speaker 1: like it was the big draw down.
Speaker 2: They were trying to make it harder and harder.
Speaker 1: For DUS to reenlist interesting and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could stay a grunt, and you could because that's
Speaker 1: what it was.
Speaker 2: And you're like, and you can.
Speaker 1: Go and do mews and udps, which is basically when
Speaker 1: Marines go on a six to eight month boat ride
Speaker 1: on a Navy ship.
Speaker 2: And it's like, that's not what I joined to do.
Speaker 1: I joined to kick indoors and you all took that
Speaker 1: from me, but whatever, and uh yeah, six eight months
Speaker 1: for like, I mean, don't get me wrong, some of
Speaker 1: them are dope. You can swing through Thailand, the Philippines,
Speaker 1: Indonesia and come back home. That can be cool. But
Speaker 1: I'm also not into like Thai lady boys either. That's
Speaker 1: not my jam. You know, I'm not gonna yuck someone's young,
Speaker 1: but like, it's not Jacob's jam. But at that time,
Speaker 1: it was just time to get out. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: know dudes that they loved it. They loved the boat rides,
Speaker 1: they did the whole jam. COVID hit dude, those boats
Speaker 1: had to stay out. They were like not allowed to
Speaker 1: come to port otherwise they could be infected with you know,
Speaker 1: the stew but whatever.
Speaker 6: Right, right, you know, that whole time frame, man was
Speaker 6: really just so crazy man. I really wondered if it
Speaker 6: was just a real big magic spell or delusion or something.
Speaker 6: You know, you really you even saw family members, you
Speaker 6: saw friends, You saw people really kind of change the
Speaker 6: perspective of how of their own agency, of their of
Speaker 6: their consciousness, where more or less they were like looking
Speaker 6: at a TV screen and walking in line, and you know,
Speaker 6: for forgetting something that they were telling you, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: it's going to save your life. Like I worked the
Speaker 6: front lines for those years on the busiest ambulance in
Speaker 6: my city. I could see observable evidence with a lot
Speaker 6: of things, you know, and it seemed like when that
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen time and twenty twenty and especially twenty twenty one,
Speaker 6: you could see like waves. Things would come in waves.
Speaker 6: When one person would get sick, two people would get
Speaker 6: and then just like and even you're running calls on people,
Speaker 6: and it's like you can see that the demographic you
Speaker 6: know of it is like it's local. So something's going
Speaker 6: on here, and it's like I don't know if this
Speaker 6: thing's time released or whatever.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 6: I even worked in vaccine research. I worked in the labs,
Speaker 6: I worked in basically blood draws, working on you know,
Speaker 6: a bunch of different schedule. You know, what do you
Speaker 6: call what do they call it? Trying to remember what
Speaker 6: they call It's been years since I worked it, but
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 7: Stevee would send me, I gotta cut you off real quick.
Speaker 7: Stevie would send me the craziest pictures and we would
Speaker 7: have a very intense conversation like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Time he would send me these clots and the blood.
Speaker 1: That were like fucking pulling full slugs of tar out
Speaker 1: of people's veins.
Speaker 5: Slugs, And I tell you what, it's a it's a
Speaker 5: real thing.
Speaker 6: So I worked in the lab, right, and so my
Speaker 6: job was to draw blood from sick people. Because again
Speaker 6: these people were like you know, had were on their
Speaker 6: third their fourth drink, right, and so you know, whenever
Speaker 6: they would get sick, it was part of their protocol
Speaker 6: and it was mandatory. You had to come into the facility.
Speaker 6: We need to draw your blood within like a certain timeframe. Right,
Speaker 6: take the blood. We would process it in a centerfuge
Speaker 6: forty five hundred RPMs a minute for thirty minutes.
Speaker 5: Right, we would let a process.
Speaker 6: We would let the blood coagulate for thirty minutes before
Speaker 6: we'd put it in this machine because of what it
Speaker 6: does is it just kind of just separates the components
Speaker 6: of the blood. It separates the plasma, and that's where
Speaker 6: all the information is is in the plasma. And so
Speaker 6: you take this plasma, you put in little vials, put
Speaker 6: it in a freezer, pack it up, ship it boom, right,
Speaker 6: and it goes off to who knows where. And what
Speaker 6: I found interesting is, you know, I worked in the
Speaker 6: lab for two years and we did a bunch of
Speaker 6: you know, Maderna, Jay and j all of them pretty much,
Speaker 6: and ones that were like not even talked about that
Speaker 6: I knew about. And people would come in for sick visits.
Speaker 6: I'd draw blood, spin it down, look at it. I'd go,
Speaker 6: what the freak is this? Yeah, And it would only
Speaker 6: happen on sick visits, so it was like when your
Speaker 6: body would kind of go through this immune response.
Speaker 5: There it was.
Speaker 6: There I found, you know, the observable evidence that was
Speaker 6: consistent with multiple patients that there were like high fibrin
Speaker 6: clots in these tubes. I went, I went, I went
Speaker 6: back to my senior lab partner there for twenty five years.
Speaker 6: Never seen nothing like it, especially for spinning things down
Speaker 6: for like an hour pretty much. So he's like, spin it,
Speaker 6: spin it another hour, spin it another hour, still the
Speaker 6: same thing. I'm like, he's like, just take the thing out,
Speaker 6: take the clot out, soak up what you can put
Speaker 6: in the viials, we'll pack it, will send it. I'm like,
Speaker 6: is there anywhere to write this down?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 6: I'm like, is there where's the monitor at the person
Speaker 6: who's supposed to be facilitating over what I'm doing? And
Speaker 6: how come there's no part of the protocol, you know,
Speaker 6: where if I see something like this, how come that's
Speaker 6: not an adverse event? How come that's not like something
Speaker 6: that is pertinent to the patient.
Speaker 2: Right now, as.
Speaker 1: You're doing the blood sample and all that, you would
Speaker 1: think there'd be somewhere for you to annotate, Hey, found
Speaker 1: this crazy shit in this person's blood. Doctor so and
Speaker 1: so might need to look deeper. No nowhere to write.
Speaker 6: It, yeah yeah, or just use it for statistics and
Speaker 6: then if you see that there's a lot of it
Speaker 6: going on, then go okay, yeah, let's rid let's check
Speaker 6: in on this or whatever. But you know, just being
Speaker 6: in the industry, I learned a thing called dirty research.
Speaker 6: It is what it is, like, we're people at the
Speaker 6: end of the day, and we may have a different
Speaker 6: ethical mindset when we come into work that day. Maybe
Speaker 6: I broke up with my wife or divorce whatever, and
Speaker 6: I just don't care.
Speaker 1: Pencil whippon is absolutely a thing in every single industry.
Speaker 5: Bro, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Time's money, right and people have to make a living
Speaker 6: and they're going to do what they have to do.
Speaker 6: And that's the crazy thing about it, you know, And
Speaker 6: it's really just a part of human nature. It really
Speaker 6: is at the end of the day. But that's where
Speaker 6: we have to change, you know, go deep from inside yourself,
Speaker 6: grab yourself and go what am I doing right now?
Speaker 6: And should I share this with others so people can
Speaker 6: have the same mindset to do good, to do, to
Speaker 6: be ethical, to be moral. At the end of the day,
Speaker 6: I get it, like morals could be something that's taught
Speaker 6: at home. Ethics is something that's general universal, But at
Speaker 6: the end of the day, dude, like grab your morality
Speaker 6: as well. It's a strong part of the whole dynamic.
Speaker 4: People are traumatized things.
Speaker 7: People are traumatized, brother through all sorts of different childhood stuff.
Speaker 7: And there's a lot of people out here that just
Speaker 7: don't have love in their heart man, and then COVID
Speaker 7: hit and really.
Speaker 4: Twist him up even more.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, it turned everybody like tribal in a sense.
Speaker 3: It was like you're either with us or you're against
Speaker 3: us kind of shit. And then, you know, everybody that
Speaker 3: was calling out the COVID vaccine we were looked at
Speaker 3: as like crazy people. And then slowly over time a
Speaker 3: lot of the facts began to come out. We ended
Speaker 3: up having our boy Nick stumpauser on the show, and
Speaker 3: he was the he was the editor to the Stupeter
Speaker 3: The Water. Yeah, he was the editor to the Stu
Speaker 3: Peters show of Watch the Water. And then there was
Speaker 3: another one too. But in just looking in the water
Speaker 3: you find out that, like legit, they were fucking pumping
Speaker 3: it full of like, uh what was it like snake
Speaker 3: venom and crazy about and then you come and find
Speaker 3: out that not only were they pumping literal snake venom
Speaker 3: into the water, but all of those uh, all those
Speaker 3: diabetic shots that everybody's taken nowadays to try and lose weight.
Speaker 2: And also fucking oh it's not is uh no, that
Speaker 2: is a lizard venom, That's what it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's still reptilian, right, And it's just
Speaker 3: like so crazy people are afraid to do their own research.
Speaker 3: And honestly, you could blame it on the news stations
Speaker 3: that kept on telling everybody that it's dangerous to do
Speaker 3: your own research, which I will never understand because that's
Speaker 3: saying we're the talking parrots, and listen to what we
Speaker 3: have to say, because we got our information from a
Speaker 3: good source. And then you follow that source and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you got your information from the CDC. Who stands to
Speaker 3: lose if you were to call out any of it,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or from the from the WHO,
Speaker 3: or from fiz Er every fucking commercial.
Speaker 2: This was brought to you by Pfizer.
Speaker 3: It's like, right, man, Like they really made a shitload
Speaker 3: of money off of it, and it was mass hignosis
Speaker 3: on the largest scale that probably humanity's ever seen.
Speaker 1: See's crazy thing y'all are allowed to run on YouTube.
Speaker 1: We have been kicked so hard from YouTube that they're
Speaker 1: watching our IP address. Literally, I can't like a video
Speaker 1: if I'm hooked up to Jonathan's WiFi. That's how hard
Speaker 1: YouTube has kicked us. So for that reason, we had
Speaker 1: to go strictly to the audio platforms. We have recently
Speaker 1: unveiled a YouTube shorts that does like a quick shorts
Speaker 1: of our episodes and things like that, but we're strictly
Speaker 1: in the audio but all of our videos, Jonathan, if
Speaker 1: we're gonna get that shameless plug, might as well do so.
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Speaker 2: Baby, let's go absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: But anyway back to the point, Yeah, we get kicked
Speaker 1: off of YouTube hard, like fucking hard because we Jonathan
Speaker 1: had this pod for about six months before I came
Speaker 1: on as the co host, and then when I got
Speaker 1: on board with it, it was when covid was really
Speaker 1: ramping up. And of course we're a conspiracy pod. We're
Speaker 1: telling people not to get vaccinated because it's fucking stupid,
Speaker 1: and YouTube did.
Speaker 2: Not like that.
Speaker 1: We started gott strikes for things that we posted like
Speaker 1: three months ago, and then we there's like no way
Speaker 1: to fix that.
Speaker 2: They were giving us a hard strike, no editing, no nothing.
Speaker 1: Then we realized after our second strike we had one
Speaker 1: more to go, and it was a strike for something
Speaker 1: we posted two months ago, and it's like, so, what
Speaker 1: are the chances in the last month that we've posted
Speaker 1: something that the YouTube algorithm is going to have a
Speaker 1: problem with. So we knew that we were never going
Speaker 1: to be YouTubers quote unquote as far as the content
Speaker 1: creation world was concerned.
Speaker 3: And as far as like you know, I was. I
Speaker 3: mentioned Nick Stumpowers and Nick stumpauser earlier. He actually had
Speaker 3: to take a break from it. It was like causing
Speaker 3: him crazy anxiety. He's like, dude, I don't want to
Speaker 3: fucking be like on the front line of all this shit.
Speaker 3: It was just my job to be an editor and
Speaker 3: a producer and stuff like that. But it's driving me crazy.
Speaker 3: But anybody wants to go back and listen to those episodes,
Speaker 3: they're all very informative about, you know, the snake venom
Speaker 3: and watching the Water and Dying Suddenly. They are episodes
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty for Sinister Snake Venom, one hundred
Speaker 3: and ninety seven for the Died Suddenly documentary, and episode
Speaker 3: three hundred and twelve for the Final Days documentary, which
Speaker 3: Final Days was probably the most wild one because it
Speaker 3: was a documentary that was trying to expose the scientific
Speaker 3: technological elite and their desire to become gods.
Speaker 1: So, bro, that was in our one hundreds series. Like,
Speaker 1: we're we're past eight hundred at this point. That feels
Speaker 1: like a fucking lifetime.
Speaker 2: We're approaching nine hundred. Actually, Jesus Christ, you.
Speaker 4: Guys been doing while you guys are killing it? Brother.
Speaker 1: Well, also, we found the the more we pump out,
Speaker 1: the better things go.
Speaker 2: So that's why we run fourteen episodes a week.
Speaker 4: Host.
Speaker 6: That's awesome, man, you know, shout out to you guys.
Speaker 6: You guys are working your ass offt.
Speaker 7: Do not give Stevie any ideas, fellas I swear.
Speaker 2: He will force me to.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like slave labor with this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, we breathed this shit.
Speaker 3: We you know, even whenever we're not in front of
Speaker 3: a microphone, we're thinking about it, we're talking about it,
Speaker 3: he's calling me, I'm calling him. Holy shit, did you
Speaker 3: hear about this? And and it's just a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: But yeah, in August, it'll make five years that we've
Speaker 3: been doing this.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome. Six oh five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twenty to twenty five, you're right, Yeah, five
Speaker 1: years in August.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that'll be an awesome achievement for you guys. Man, dude,
Speaker 6: that's really will you know, we look up to you guys.
Speaker 7: We know how hard it is and that it's it's
Speaker 7: a lot of work, man, And we hear it all
Speaker 7: the time from new content creators like us and they're like, dude,
Speaker 7: I don't know how you guys do.
Speaker 4: It's like, we have a system.
Speaker 7: So if you you know, a lot of guys are
Speaker 7: just solo dolo, and it's like if you have three guys,
Speaker 7: it's much easier. If you have two guys, it's much easier. Yeah,
Speaker 7: But at the same time, it's still it's an everyday thing.
Speaker 7: Just like you said, I'm calling him. I'm talking to Stevie. Ever,
Speaker 7: our wives are like, these guys are ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his wife also O.
Speaker 4: Jesse's calling. Oh, Jesse's calling again. Wonder what he wants
Speaker 4: to talk about.
Speaker 2: It could be literally anything, dude. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: I've had so many people, family members, former co workers.
Speaker 1: I quit my job to do this full time, and
Speaker 1: my boss thought I was crazy until I could show
Speaker 1: him like, no, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you watched the news lately.
Speaker 1: They keep creating shit for us to talk about, let
Speaker 1: alone the things from the sixties, seventies, and eighties that
Speaker 1: we had to talk about of a conspiratorial realm, Like
Speaker 1: we will literally never run out of ideas for content.
Speaker 1: Literally last night we did an episode about a giant
Speaker 1: crater in Russia.
Speaker 2: Three days ago, we did an episode about.
Speaker 1: An ancient Indian nuclear bomb that may or may not
Speaker 1: have went off. Before that, we did an episode about
Speaker 1: how every single space launch that has ever taken place
Speaker 1: has a guaranteed accult ritual that was behind it every
Speaker 1: step of the way.
Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, that's not even talking.
Speaker 1: About the war in Ukraine or the war on the border,
Speaker 1: any of these things. Like we can't run out of
Speaker 1: shit to talk about. They just keep making it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that being said, I mean look at Texas
Speaker 7: right now and July fourth, there was supposed to be
Speaker 7: a bio weapon attack and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: you have was it San Antonio area. It's just like
Speaker 7: the river siphoned into that general area and they flooded
Speaker 7: like thirty feet in four hours or whatever it was
Speaker 7: at four am.
Speaker 4: It's like, what is going on? Like it never ends?
Speaker 7: And then you find out that there's been all of
Speaker 7: these weather modification companies that have been working in all
Speaker 7: these areas right next to San Antonio for the last
Speaker 7: I don't know a year or two.
Speaker 4: Yep, have you guys heard about that?
Speaker 2: No? Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I got a family that live out past San Antonio
Speaker 1: in a little town called Bernie. If anybody's ever heard
Speaker 1: of Demolition Ranch, he's based out of Bernie, Texas. So
Speaker 1: my family, like, they'll see him at the gas station
Speaker 1: and shit, they say, Matt's like as much as the
Speaker 1: guy he is on YouTube, he's that guy in real life.
Speaker 1: He's just the most genuine gint you could ever hope
Speaker 1: to meet. And yeah, so there, the Rio Grande River
Speaker 1: runs through Bernie, now not the vastness that you would
Speaker 1: see towards the border, but like it's up where it's
Speaker 1: more it looks more like a creek than a river, right,
Speaker 1: But they experienced the floods and all these things. So yeah,
Speaker 1: San Antonio got smacked by thirty foot of floods in
Speaker 1: a matter of an hour, give or take. And it's like, wait,
Speaker 1: where did this come from?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did we forget that harp and DARPA have
Speaker 1: been running experiments around this area for the past six
Speaker 1: months to a year, and it's like, wait, how much
Speaker 1: cloud seating has gone on, how many kim trails have
Speaker 1: gone on? How much excess rainfall they had out of nowhere?
Speaker 1: How much of this wintertime snow melt I'm sorry, it's
Speaker 1: fucking July. Why are we talking about that in this
Speaker 1: conversation right now? Bro That melt in has been happening
Speaker 1: since April. We're done with.
Speaker 7: That, and monsoon season is over right, it's like June,
Speaker 7: I think Monsoon's he's in the beginning of June.
Speaker 1: I think right, It's it makes no sense of this
Speaker 1: happened out of nowhere, although of course you're gonna have
Speaker 1: mediorologists and quote unquote experts come out with a million
Speaker 1: different reasons as well. This was clearly because of you know,
Speaker 1: if it was so standard, then it would happen every year.
Speaker 2: This is out of the norm. You can't call this shit.
Speaker 3: I don't trust even the meteorologists. They can't get the
Speaker 3: fucking weather later on in the day, correct, So how
Speaker 3: are they gonna tell us? You know that this is
Speaker 3: absolutely what it's from, and you know, like it's all.
Speaker 2: You imagine being paid to be wrong.
Speaker 1: Could you Immaine, having a job where you're expecting to
Speaker 1: be wrong eighty percent of the time and keep your
Speaker 1: job and then ask your boss for a raise.
Speaker 2: That's what a weatherman does eighty percent of the time.
Speaker 3: At least, at least in Mexico, you get, you know,
Speaker 3: chicks going up there in their bikinis and everything. It's like,
Speaker 3: I don't even give a shit if they're wrong, you know,
Speaker 3: like I'll just watch this all day.
Speaker 5: Because you know why.
Speaker 1: But them is like really interested in Mexican weather forecast
Speaker 1: dog I don't know how to call it. Like I'm
Speaker 1: really interested of what the sun shining rainfall is in Baja.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but here we are.
Speaker 7: He's a rain maker is the is the rain Maker
Speaker 7: Technology Corporation is the company that everybody's pointing their finger
Speaker 7: at right now. And everybody, I mean, like Owen Schuyer
Speaker 7: and Alex Jones and that whole network and all, you know,
Speaker 7: all of us fringe.
Speaker 4: Kind of we're not.
Speaker 7: Fringe anymore, really, but we're where they're pointing their fingers
Speaker 7: at Rainmaker Technology Corporation. And when you look them up,
Speaker 7: it's pretty interesting. You can go find their website on
Speaker 7: Google or whatnot. But you know, there's a rain map,
Speaker 7: there's a Rain Enhancement Project map that you can look at.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you guys can see this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Vanguard owned company.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, dude, just look back at Operation Popeye, right,
Speaker 6: like when they actually kind of disclose some sort of
Speaker 6: information that they were using geo engineering for a strategic purpose, right,
Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, that's that's the purpose,
Speaker 6: that's the use of this is for strategy. But then
Speaker 6: you got a question, Okay, well what's the strategy? And
Speaker 6: a lot of the times they were using you know,
Speaker 6: especially in Operation Poppye and Vietnam War, they were using
Speaker 6: it to kind of disguise their aerial defenses or you know,
Speaker 6: attacks and all this kind of stuff. But it was
Speaker 6: also affecting the people on the ground as well. Right,
Speaker 6: So when we think of that and we think of
Speaker 6: geoengineering in the States, I mean, what really is the
Speaker 6: seriousness of what they're doing. Is this shit falling you know,
Speaker 6: getting in the cloud system, getting in the rain water
Speaker 6: and then you know, watering our crops throughout the country.
Speaker 6: And now we've got something that's integrated in our food
Speaker 6: system that was not supposed to be there, but you know,
Speaker 6: they made sure it was some sort of weird crap
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 5: And it's so funny.
Speaker 6: We'll mention all kinds of things, the rain, whatever, all
Speaker 6: this stuff, right, and it's all kind of like conspiracy talk.
Speaker 6: It's all pseudo, right, But maybe three four years down
Speaker 6: the line, this stuff will be disclosed as true. And
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, Jonathan mentioned it earlier. You know,
Speaker 6: especially with COVID and all this kind of stuff, they
Speaker 6: weren't listening to the fact that we were saying, don't
Speaker 6: get these things.
Speaker 5: This is what's going to happen.
Speaker 6: This is the statistics, this is the outcomes that are
Speaker 6: actually happening to people in the hospital. But they label
Speaker 6: it as pseudo because there's no like valid white and
Speaker 6: black information saying to the people who are in charge
Speaker 6: of the hospital systems and all this stuff to go, yeah,
Speaker 6: this is going on. It's like when I take a
Speaker 6: patient and they had a seizure and they go to
Speaker 6: the hospital, right, and they discharge them and they go
Speaker 6: pseudo seizure. They don't really know what caused it, but
Speaker 6: they know something did, they just can't specifically say and
Speaker 6: diagnose exactly what it was. And that's that pollutes everything
Speaker 6: in our infrastructure today. It pollutes everything's acted in that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so nuts, dude.
Speaker 3: Like it's like, you know, we cover so many different
Speaker 3: conspiracies and it's like you you really learned to lose
Speaker 3: a lot of trust in your government and and and
Speaker 3: the leaders of said government. And it's like, what I
Speaker 3: don't get is how we have done eight hundred damn
Speaker 3: near nine hundred episodes and all the other conspiracy theorists
Speaker 3: out there think about fucking Alex Jones been doing this
Speaker 3: for twenty years or what however long he's been doing it.
Speaker 3: Like there are people that are talking about this shit
Speaker 3: on a regular basis, talking about like how the government
Speaker 3: is making you sick, and how the government is hypnotizing you,
Speaker 3: and how the government is doing this and doing that,
Speaker 3: and it's like.
Speaker 2: But people still fucking trust the government. And I'm like no,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you've fallen in love with you with your capture,
Speaker 3: Like how can you keep on just.
Speaker 2: Believing every word that comes out of their mouth?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, you know they only lie sometimes, you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: they tell the truth. It's like, no, if I have
Speaker 3: If I have a friend and he's lied to me
Speaker 3: a thousand times, every single word that is going to
Speaker 3: be coming out of his mouth, I'm going to assume
Speaker 3: is a lie from here on out. Like, is that
Speaker 3: Billy Carson? That's logical? Yeah, well not even just Billy Carson.
Speaker 3: I mean fucking a lot of people are like that.
Speaker 3: And and I don't even want to call out Billy Carson.
Speaker 3: Billy Carson is a fucking mino compared to the government.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look at Project Mockingbird. I bring this
Speaker 7: up quite frequently. My dad's writing a book right now
Speaker 7: called Whose Side Are You On? You know, the Division
Speaker 7: of America, And it's just like, look at Project Mockingbird.
Speaker 7: The government decided to create this mass propaganda campaign against
Speaker 7: their own people, the American people, And it's been going
Speaker 7: on ever since.
Speaker 4: I think it.
Speaker 7: Started in like the forties or fifties or something like that.
Speaker 7: But it's it's CNN, it's Fox News, MSNBC, it's all
Speaker 7: all of these legacy media companies that are just flooding
Speaker 7: in and all the people that you're talking about, Jonathan
Speaker 7: they're all they're all dumb and lazy, and they don't
Speaker 7: care to look into it. They're going about their everyday
Speaker 7: life and they just just carrying on and carrying on.
Speaker 7: So when it finally does, like Stevie was saying, it
Speaker 7: finally does get disclosed that this or that is real
Speaker 7: and it's one hundred percent fact, they.
Speaker 4: Go, oh, it's too late. That sucks. It's like ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, it is.
Speaker 6: And what's crazy too, is is I you know, when
Speaker 6: the Operation Mockingbird, right, the CIA got involved in the
Speaker 6: news agencies. And I think specifically why the CIA got
Speaker 6: involved or they targeted you know, media so hard, was
Speaker 6: because I think the CIA has been involved in a
Speaker 6: lot of mysticism, a lot of a cult practice. I
Speaker 6: mean a lot of things pertaining to you know, hidden knowledge,
Speaker 6: and why wouldn't they target you know, the media, the
Speaker 6: medium that that channels information through to the rest of
Speaker 6: the communities, the public, the people, and the people become
Speaker 6: in this trance, right, So that's the whole purpose, through
Speaker 6: that channeling process through medium. It's because then you fall
Speaker 6: into this trance to where it's like some sort of
Speaker 6: docileness mixed with u stupidity or ignorance, and then people
Speaker 6: just fall into this seduction. Right, it feels good to
Speaker 6: be told information rather than to go look it up, right, Yeah,
Speaker 6: all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: With you. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I've said this before too, that people don't want actual freedom, right, people,
Speaker 1: especially American people, they want the freedom to be comfortable.
Speaker 1: That's realistically what they crave. Because true freedom is responsibility.
Speaker 1: It's taking on the information that you're being told. You
Speaker 1: take responsibility for that. You find out deeper, you dig deeper,
Speaker 1: you do more research onto something, your bills, your insurance,
Speaker 1: you name your thing. True freedom means that no one's
Speaker 1: coming to help you when shit hits the fan. You
Speaker 1: have to fit in for yourself, like you want the
Speaker 1: most freedom you'll ever get. You Alaskan bush people or
Speaker 1: the people living in a village in Africa somewhere that
Speaker 1: like doesn't have running water, electricity, they have the most
Speaker 1: freedom that can ever be had. But also if shit
Speaker 1: gets bad for them, that's it. No one's coming to
Speaker 1: help them. American people don't actually want freedom. They want
Speaker 1: the freedom to be told what to do. They want
Speaker 1: the freedom to be comfortable, to fall in line, to
Speaker 1: do as they're told.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous to me. But that's the thing.
Speaker 1: There's so many people out there that just they don't
Speaker 1: understand the difference between the two.
Speaker 4: They're brainwashed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people are losing the agency over their consciousness, man.
Speaker 6: I mean you can at the end of the day, dude,
Speaker 6: people are giving up their own will, their own power
Speaker 6: to make decisions. And really it's like almost I mean,
Speaker 6: if you're a farmer and you you herd cattle and
Speaker 6: you process cattle, it's the same thing, dude. You know,
Speaker 6: you corral the cattle to go to a certain area
Speaker 6: because it's leading to their demise. They don't know it,
Speaker 6: but it's for their profit, and it's kind of like
Speaker 6: the same concept.
Speaker 5: It really is.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 6: And you talk about freedom, dude, Our freedom, you know,
Speaker 6: is on the verge of becoming very interesting, and I
Speaker 6: don't think it's going to be real freedom in the future,
Speaker 6: maybe ten years from now, when pollenteers like fully developed
Speaker 6: and out of it's like kindergarten, you know, elementary stage,
Speaker 6: and it becomes this thing that now facilitates.
Speaker 4: Behavior of people. Yeah, I mean I want to talk
Speaker 4: to you though. Right there.
Speaker 7: They've been around pallunteer has been around since like the
Speaker 7: early two thousands, right after nine to eleven. They're certainly
Speaker 7: out before there, they're out of their infancy stage. But
Speaker 7: I don't know if you meant it like that, but
Speaker 7: I what I'm saying like, they haven't turned it turned
Speaker 7: the dial up yet.
Speaker 6: Right right now, everything's got an introduction, right It's like
Speaker 6: when you read a book, there's a preface and introduction.
Speaker 6: You don't really get to the meet until like maybe
Speaker 6: halfway through, and they're like, oh fine, you know see.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to open my own form. We talked about that, dude.
Speaker 1: In the next two years, I want to be forming
Speaker 1: my own crabs slaughtering mown like animals. This is the
Speaker 1: way I know I'm looked at like a weirdo. I
Speaker 1: do the night fighting shit.
Speaker 5: I want to right behind you.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get as far.
Speaker 1: Away from modernity as humanly possible. But I also like
Speaker 1: my WiFi and my air conditioning. I would I call
Speaker 1: myself a new Ajamish right Like I draw the line
Speaker 1: the almost draw the line of electricity. I draw the
Speaker 1: line at AI as too fucking much for us. Okay,
Speaker 1: when you draw that line and leave that for the
Speaker 1: for the heathens. I'm over here with my basic Internet
Speaker 1: like a normal you know, saye Christian folk. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a thing.
Speaker 6: Well you're not the only one, man, A lot of
Speaker 6: people are starting in a way kind of get this
Speaker 6: feeling to just build an arc.
Speaker 5: Yes, and it's sad, man.
Speaker 6: I really hate kind of getting into like negative talk
Speaker 6: and all this. You know, we've been having a few
Speaker 6: guests come on and I think it's meant to be
Speaker 6: where they've they've just been bringing such an inspirational, positive message.
Speaker 6: But fuck all that, dude, We've got to talk about
Speaker 6: this stuff. Like we've got to talk about a technocratic takeover,
Speaker 6: you know, technology based right web three six G. We're
Speaker 6: talking about things that are we're not. People need to
Speaker 6: anticipate more. I don't take it as a negative. I
Speaker 6: take it as a sign, right, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, from a Christian I could say it's
Speaker 1: a sign of the end times, but I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: take that as a negative.
Speaker 2: I see that as an inevitability.
Speaker 1: To say the end times is like, oh, something we
Speaker 1: should be afraid of. That's like being afraid of your
Speaker 1: own death, Like yo, no one's making it out this
Speaker 1: motherfucker a lot. Being afraid of it is fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: So that being said, why don't we celebrate it, Why
Speaker 1: don't we enjoy it? Why don't we give it a
Speaker 1: sense of humor for fuck's sake, you know what I mean. So, like,
Speaker 1: as we're looking at the technology and the technocracy going
Speaker 1: the way that it is, I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 1: I recognize it as a sign. But I'm also I'm
Speaker 1: not like rejoicing, like, oh yay, the evil ones are
Speaker 1: taking over bah bah blah. I'm kind of like, yep,
Speaker 1: well that's a part of the plan. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: written about, so here we are. It's crazy that I'm
Speaker 1: living in the time at which that was taking place.
Speaker 2: I wish it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Like I have this weird mindset where like I hope
Speaker 1: I meet my grandchildren. Hell, I hope I meet my
Speaker 1: great grandchildren. I'm not expecting to live past fifty. Like
Speaker 1: if I do, then that's dope.
Speaker 2: But I'm also like really at peace with however this
Speaker 2: shakes out.
Speaker 3: To be fair, Statistically, we are extremely unlikely to be
Speaker 3: living in the end times.
Speaker 1: Statistically, we are way more likely than ever before in
Speaker 1: human history.
Speaker 3: Brother well, and so as all the people for the
Speaker 3: last two thousand years, they all thought the same thing.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, whenever they were compiling the
Speaker 3: Bible together, while they were writing the thing, they thought
Speaker 3: that the end was like coming up, like real soon
Speaker 3: in their lifetimes. So that's fair, and you would they
Speaker 3: were a lot closer to the source they were around
Speaker 3: in those times. If anybody's going to get it right,
Speaker 3: you would think probably the people that were there, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that in said the nation of Israel wasn't its
Speaker 1: own thing till nineteen forty eight. It got pretty much
Speaker 1: kicked out in seventy eight D and people have been
Speaker 1: waiting for that to become a thing, and then it
Speaker 1: became a thing in nineteen forty eight. So I would
Speaker 1: argue that we are statistically way more likely now, especially
Speaker 1: because the first generation of that nation is not supposed
Speaker 1: to live and die before the end times come. That
Speaker 1: was about seventy years ago, with generation biblically speaking, is
Speaker 1: about seventy years So.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not like an all knower of
Speaker 2: these things, but.
Speaker 4: But that's just funny.
Speaker 7: My dad has a whole thing in his book where
Speaker 7: he's like talking about this very subject where he's saying,
Speaker 7: you know, I read the first He sent me the
Speaker 7: first three chapters and I read them.
Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, I want you to read him.
Speaker 4: I want you to read it.
Speaker 7: And it's like it's like, okay, I'll get around to
Speaker 7: and then I finally read it. I'm like, yeah, this
Speaker 7: is great. And he talks about Ronald Reagan during his
Speaker 7: time when he was a kid and he thought he
Speaker 7: was the beast because he had six letters and each
Speaker 7: first name, middle name, last name. I think Ronald Wilson
Speaker 7: Reagan and it's six six six, And he was talking
Speaker 7: about this like type, it's a typology. We talk about
Speaker 7: this all the time on our podcast. There is to
Speaker 7: what you're saying, Jacob. There is so much typology to
Speaker 7: end Times right now, maybe more than ever.
Speaker 4: And I kind of agree with you on that aspect.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I hope we're still kicking it for another thousand years
Speaker 1: before the End Times actually happened.
Speaker 2: It's like I want that. I hope I'm dead wrong here.
Speaker 3: But what do the end times mean? Are we talking
Speaker 3: about apocalypse? Like end of an era kind of situation,
Speaker 3: because that's what apocalypse means.
Speaker 4: Armageddon.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm the end of a time, not the end
Speaker 3: of all time, right, yes to both.
Speaker 6: It's almost like the end time is a reflection of
Speaker 6: the beginning. And what I mean by that is you
Speaker 6: get into these concepts like in the Antediluvian period, and
Speaker 6: really people can't deny the fact that there was a
Speaker 6: flood globally. There's just a real way too much evidence
Speaker 6: and throughout all cultures that really kind of, you know,
Speaker 6: justify all that stuff.
Speaker 5: But thinking of the old world.
Speaker 6: In Atlantis and how these megalithic structures have gotten here,
Speaker 6: how they have so much in common what they may
Speaker 6: may mean, and have similarity in with ritual practice and
Speaker 6: all this kind of stuff. But what was the world
Speaker 6: like back then? I just get this concept of like Atlantis,
Speaker 6: Atlantis kind of ran everything, had a ten kingdom system.
Speaker 6: Maybe you had some sort of similarities with like hive
Speaker 6: mind concepts where it was just a And again that
Speaker 6: hive mind concept is basically like you've got the queen
Speaker 6: bee and they give off pheromones and then it just
Speaker 6: kind of goes like a ripple effect out throughout the
Speaker 6: whole colony and then everyone kind of knows what to
Speaker 6: do because the queen sent a message in some sort
Speaker 6: of way. There's just a different way to transport information
Speaker 6: and they and who knows, maybe there was something like
Speaker 6: that back in the day. We always kind of speculate
Speaker 6: too on the show where maybe we had greater technology,
Speaker 6: you know, before the cataclysm that took place. Who knows
Speaker 6: if it was a younger dry its impact theory, whatever.
Speaker 2: What do you mean by greater technology? Do you mean
Speaker 2: like they had right? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Do you mean like a spiritual technology of like telepathy,
Speaker 1: because there's like different levels to this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like like some at some sort of system where
Speaker 6: technology integrated with people at some sort of point in
Speaker 6: time to where this hive system could take place. Again,
Speaker 6: like you have to look at different cultures. Even the
Speaker 6: Olmecs kind of tried to remodel or repurpose this concept
Speaker 6: with their people with through frequencies and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 6: But what I mean by the end times reflecting the beginning,
Speaker 6: maybe this is like where you know, the gods want
Speaker 6: to come back and play. We've got you know, UFO
Speaker 6: disclosure that's around the corner. Who knows what that's going
Speaker 6: to look like when it really happens. I'm not saying
Speaker 6: a spaceship's land in the middle of a football field
Speaker 6: and go, you know, like Mars attacks. Don't be Jack
Speaker 6: Black in that situation. Immediately I thought he was gonna
Speaker 6: have a longer role in that movie. But I guess
Speaker 6: what I'm saying at the end of it. I know
Speaker 6: I'm bambling on and on, but I think we may
Speaker 6: be kind of recircling back to those times. Technology. What
Speaker 6: do you think, Well, technology in the past one hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty years has developed so fast, so compiled, the
Speaker 6: snowball effect, there's no stopping it. I don't think at
Speaker 6: this point. Who knows what the potential we have down
Speaker 6: the line with all this stuff.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting. I like what Jonathan said. I
Speaker 6: do agree, like there's typologies throughout every era. It's almost
Speaker 6: like every generation. I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 6: ever covered like the generational theory, but you know, I
Speaker 6: tend to believe in that, like that this is the
Speaker 6: process of humanity over and over and over again. Yes,
Speaker 6: he's one nine brother and it's and it's just like,
Speaker 6: when is that exact time, we may not, but there's signs,
Speaker 6: there's birth pains, there's things that we can kind of
Speaker 6: see to where we're going.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, have you guys I know.
Speaker 3: That specific, go ahead, But have you guys been like
Speaker 3: religious like your whole lives or was it something that
Speaker 3: you came into.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 6: So I accepted Christ when I was eighteen years old
Speaker 6: twenty ten, I was in high school. I didn't grow
Speaker 6: up in the church, didn't grow up but knowing God,
Speaker 6: I didn't really care about any of that stuff. And
Speaker 6: really it was a weird, crazy moment in my life
Speaker 6: where there was just way too much supernatural things going on, synchronouses,
Speaker 6: whatever you call it. And I just I fully believed
Speaker 6: in my heart. But I never grew up in the church.
Speaker 6: I never grew up with, you know, a really strict
Speaker 6: religious based family. We were just you know, taught to
Speaker 6: do good, you know, respect people, love people, you know,
Speaker 6: but beat some ass when you have to protect your.
Speaker 7: Both of our dads were both so Stevie's dad was
Speaker 7: a professional baseball player.
Speaker 4: My dad got hurt.
Speaker 7: He was drafted into the Cardinals and got hurt before
Speaker 7: you could be a baseball player. So they were both
Speaker 7: like they knew each other as well. We all grew
Speaker 7: up together, so we had that aspect of like competitiveness
Speaker 7: and normal lifestyle. We were not religious. We didn't grow
Speaker 7: up in religious homes by any means. My mom always
Speaker 7: told me they were cults. You know, these are cults,
Speaker 7: and you know she's I had a friend and he
Speaker 7: when I was about thirteen years old. He brought me
Speaker 7: into a youth group Christian community and I'd go to
Speaker 7: church every Thursday night with him for a while, and
Speaker 7: the worship in the beginning for like an hour was
Speaker 7: just horrendous to me. I was like, this is just terrible.
Speaker 7: The terrible. It wasn't They weren't bad. The band wasn't bad.
Speaker 7: It was a live band. And I loved going because
Speaker 7: we would go to this restaurant I think it's called
Speaker 7: lou Seal's and Cicero, New York.
Speaker 4: I grew up in upstate New York, and.
Speaker 7: They get buffalo wings, Like we have a whole long
Speaker 7: table and plates of buffalo wings all over the table.
Speaker 4: So I loved going every Thursday night for the buffalo wings.
Speaker 4: It was great. I loved it.
Speaker 7: But I eventually had a couple pretty intense prayer moments
Speaker 7: during worship with the with my friend, and it shook
Speaker 7: me a little bit, you know, it really was rattling emotionally.
Speaker 7: But it's funny that Stevie says twenty ten was his
Speaker 7: kind of come around to Jesus, and that was around
Speaker 7: the same That was the same exact year that I
Speaker 7: asked God to I asked Jesus to show me himself
Speaker 7: because I was about I felt like ending my life
Speaker 7: and I was. I went to my grandmother's funeral. She
Speaker 7: was a big part of my life. She raised me
Speaker 7: all my childhood, and I went to her funeral and
Speaker 7: I came eventually went and spent the night with my
Speaker 7: grandfather at the house that we grew up in, and
Speaker 7: they had the same house they raised my dad in.
Speaker 7: And I'm sitting in the room late at night in
Speaker 7: her room. By the way, I'm sleeping in her bed.
Speaker 7: Very weird to some people. I bet, I bet that
Speaker 7: would sound kind of come off kind of weird, but
Speaker 7: it's it's a bed, and that's where that's only bed
Speaker 7: in the house that I could stay in. So I
Speaker 7: was like, Okay, I'll sleep in my dead grandma's room
Speaker 7: after her funeral. So certainly kind of emotional and creepy
Speaker 7: all around. But I called my girlfriend and she's like
Speaker 7: the girlfriend at the time, and she was seeing somebody
Speaker 7: else and the guy got on the phone started talking
Speaker 7: a bunch of shit to me, and I hung up
Speaker 7: the phone and was like, Wow, this sucks. I'm gonna
Speaker 7: start doing push ups till my face hits the ground.
Speaker 7: So I started doing push ups literally till my face
Speaker 7: hit the ground and just to get it out of me.
Speaker 7: And then I just went in the fetal position, started
Speaker 7: crying and I was like, hey, Jesus, you know, please,
Speaker 7: please show me you're real.
Speaker 4: I just can't do this anymore.
Speaker 7: And then, long story short, all of a sudden, I
Speaker 7: felt a hand on my back and I got insane chills.
Speaker 7: My whole body felt warm, my tears, my frown turned
Speaker 7: upside down. I had a big smile on my face
Speaker 7: and it was a very crazy experience. The hand stayed
Speaker 7: on my back for several months, and I started reading
Speaker 7: the Bible and I actually went down a super esoteric route.
Speaker 7: I kind of diverted. I was like, I went down
Speaker 7: like I feel like it was my plan. I went
Speaker 7: down Lahananaki, you know, a very esoteric route, and then
Speaker 7: Stevie showed up at my door pretty much twelve years
Speaker 7: or fifteen years after that out of nowhere. I didn't
Speaker 7: talk to Stevie for twelve years, and he just all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, I get a call from him one
Speaker 7: day and oh, I'm coming to Vegas.
Speaker 4: My cousin lives out there. What are you doing.
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, absolutely, let's hook up. We grew up together,
Speaker 7: as we said, but and then he just kind of
Speaker 7: reeled me in slowly. And at the time he was too,
Speaker 7: he was not like. We were doing a podcast called
Speaker 7: Dewiseman and it was a very you know, it was
Speaker 7: not a Christian based, biblical lens podcast. We were talking
Speaker 7: about the Loch mess Monster and all the psyops, all
Speaker 7: the conspiracy theories, and then that kind of broke up
Speaker 7: like a bad band would break up, and Stevie just
Speaker 7: flipped a switch and was like.
Speaker 4: I know where to go.
Speaker 7: I'm going to Jesus baby, I know where to go
Speaker 7: to follow me, and he just kind of reeled me
Speaker 7: in slowly.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, that's smart, that's hard. It's crazy too.
Speaker 6: When we first linked up, what was it like, I'd
Speaker 6: be like eight years ago now and I haven't seen
Speaker 6: this guy in like twelve years before that, and we
Speaker 6: linked up and I'm telling you, dude, we were going
Speaker 6: so hard in the Bob Lazar documentaries.
Speaker 5: I'm in Las Vegas. I'm in the desert, you're telling me.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm thirty five forty miles away from Area fifty one.
Speaker 6: You gotta be a kid in me, right, dude. I
Speaker 6: was eating this stuff up like candy man. And it
Speaker 6: was fun, man, it really was. It's still a good time.
Speaker 6: I really think there's a lot of stability around a
Speaker 6: lot of those things.
Speaker 5: But you know, we go out to Calico Basin.
Speaker 6: We go out in the west side of Las Las Vegas,
Speaker 6: right there in the in the Red Rock Canyon there,
Speaker 6: and we actually have a UFO experience together. We saw
Speaker 6: this kind of crap and we interacted out there. We
Speaker 6: interacted with this thing like it almost felt like it
Speaker 6: was conscious man. You know, it was like and I
Speaker 6: think these these things do have a conscious, uh functioning
Speaker 6: ability to them. And it kind of scared us a
Speaker 6: little bit. It was intimidating because it started coming at us.
Speaker 6: Once we were kind of like, you know, fuck you,
Speaker 6: you know or whatever.
Speaker 4: We didn't say that but we were like that.
Speaker 6: But I might have been thinking and who knows, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, because everyone gets territorial at some point. When
Speaker 6: when you're uneasy with something, you become territorial.
Speaker 4: It's nature.
Speaker 6: Dude, You're like, hold on, this is my ground. You're
Speaker 6: over there, you stand your ground.
Speaker 4: Tell the story real quick, tell tell.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're we're talking about those first alien experience dog.
Speaker 2: Or a damonic Where are we going here?
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't I don't know, you know,
Speaker 6: I don't. Well, let's just start with the conscious yeah
Speaker 6: factor of it, where you know, this thing had the
Speaker 6: ability to possibly read my mind and and maybe it
Speaker 6: was triggered at at at me kind of like going
Speaker 6: maybe the quick little thought of uh, you're not that impressive,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 7: Bring it to the top. So tell him about the
Speaker 7: light and how it happened. I was coyote calling. I
Speaker 7: go to the desert and coyote call and I love
Speaker 7: the coyotes call back and it's awesome. So I was
Speaker 7: doing that to this thing. But out of nowhere, this
Speaker 7: light just we So we went to Calico Basin. It's
Speaker 7: right outside of Las Vegas, just a few minutes and
Speaker 7: I had my son. I think he was like six
Speaker 7: five years old or four or five years old at
Speaker 7: the time. And we get out there, my wife, my
Speaker 7: little boy, me and Stevie and I parked my truck
Speaker 7: and we get out. We got the chairs and we
Speaker 7: just put the chairs down, and then we see this
Speaker 7: bright light pop up above the mountain out of nowhere,
Speaker 7: and it starts rotating, and I start coyote calling it
Speaker 7: and it stops, and then it.
Speaker 4: Starts going down the mountain right at us.
Speaker 1: It was, so, you start coyote calling at the light
Speaker 1: or were you calling around?
Speaker 7: I was coyote calling at the light specifically, like I was,
Speaker 7: because I'm crazy, and.
Speaker 4: When you coyote call, it's the highest pitch.
Speaker 5: Listen, you guys saw him at Brohemian Grove. Come on now.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm asking if, like, okay, the light gave
Speaker 1: you a resonance that it was like something of a
Speaker 1: wild or feral nature at calling you just kind of
Speaker 1: like I thought it was a drone and see what
Speaker 1: happens here.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a drone the whole time.
Speaker 7: And then you know when you like say something to
Speaker 7: somebody and they like turn to you and pause.
Speaker 4: I coyote.
Speaker 7: I just was like, hey, I'm gonna that's the only frequency.
Speaker 7: It's the loudest voice, the loudest tone I can make
Speaker 7: is a coyote call.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: So I'm like, this thing is gonna hear me if
Speaker 7: it's whatever, a drone or whatever. I thought it was
Speaker 7: a drone, and I to this day, I still don't know.
Speaker 7: But I right when I coyote called, it like stopped
Speaker 7: and looked at me, and I felt it look at
Speaker 7: me and us, and we're like, what the fuck. And
Speaker 7: then it starts descending down the mountain at us pretty quickly,
Speaker 7: and my son, my five year old son, started screaming, crying,
Speaker 7: So I threw him in the truck and we got.
Speaker 6: The hell out of there in two seconds. Boom and
Speaker 6: last we're driving away. Dude, I got my eyes locked
Speaker 6: through the window in the back. Dude, I'm just watching
Speaker 6: this thing just like coming, just moving, and it's gliding.
Speaker 6: It's continuing to glide down and it's kind of just
Speaker 6: like hovering around where we just left.
Speaker 5: I'm like, are you kidding me? And then boom, like.
Speaker 4: Very bright light. It was like an orb.
Speaker 5: It was it was like an orb.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say it's some sort of maybe plasma,
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, we have a guy Brad
Speaker 6: the Awakened podcast out to him, but you know, he
Speaker 6: goes in depth with what these things make and be
Speaker 6: consisted of in the nature of it, with plasma or
Speaker 6: the ethereal realm, the electricity, magnetics, all this kind of stuff,
Speaker 6: you know, kind of may play a role in it.
Speaker 6: And really, you know, what if this stuff is just
Speaker 6: so tiny at the quantum level, you know, and which
Speaker 6: means it's there, you just can't see it, But then
Speaker 6: it has to the ability to be translucent into appear,
Speaker 6: you know. And I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 6: had any experiences similar, you know, orbs whatever things flying around. Well,
Speaker 6: I'd say the craziest thing out of all this is
Speaker 6: that when you have the when you finally understand that
Speaker 6: something else outside of human nature, beast man, all that stuff,
Speaker 6: and it has a perspective of you, it's like, whoa,
Speaker 6: you know, what the.
Speaker 5: Hell is that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: So, and I don't know what to make of it. Man.
Speaker 6: You know, obviously there's talk demons, fallen angels, all this
Speaker 6: kind of talk, but really those are just things to.
Speaker 5: Those are just things to they're just an identity.
Speaker 6: We don't know exactly what the deeper nature of it is.
Speaker 6: And again it's on I'm on a journey, right, trying
Speaker 6: to kind of figure out more about this, right, you know,
Speaker 6: pulling more information from people, podcasters, content creators, you know,
Speaker 6: guess all this kind of stuff. And that's kind of
Speaker 6: like where we've been at too, been on this trail
Speaker 6: of the aliens.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you guys think of it, but.
Speaker 3: Same as us. I mean, we we had our first
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was an orb or us
Speaker 3: or like a it was mimicking a star or whatever.
Speaker 3: It was our very first time we had electro. Nick,
Speaker 3: one of our buddies, come to Baton Rouge at the
Speaker 3: studio that me and Jacob were at, and he told us, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: come outside there, they're here. They're here, something like that,
Speaker 3: and we were like, okay, you know, we'll go with you, Nick,
Speaker 3: all right. We didn't really, I mean, we wanted to believe,
Speaker 3: but we kind of went out there for him.
Speaker 2: We're like, ah, we'll appease you or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, we go out there and this fucking thing is
Speaker 3: acting unlike any anything that I've ever seen in the
Speaker 3: sky like it was. It was like blinking on and
Speaker 3: they would blink off, and it was acting very different
Speaker 3: compared to what you would think it would do. So,
Speaker 3: for example, you know, typically whenever there's cloud coverage, the
Speaker 3: stars will get a little bit dimmer the light can't
Speaker 3: really shine through them very well. And then conversely, whenever
Speaker 3: it's a clear sky, the stars are shining very bright.
Speaker 3: This thing was acting very like opposite of that, to
Speaker 3: where whenever there was a cloud that seemed to be
Speaker 3: covering it, it got brighter, and whenever it was clear,
Speaker 3: it got dimmer. And we were like, what on earth
Speaker 3: is absolutely like it wasn't moving or anything. It was
Speaker 3: staying stationary in the same exact spot, but it was
Speaker 3: blinking on and blinking off, and but it was fading.
Speaker 3: It would fade really bright and then fade really until
Speaker 3: almost barely can even see it, and we caught it
Speaker 3: on camera and so and Nick's like, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 3: my homies. That's the he believes that they're the Pleaadians,
Speaker 3: you know, and those.
Speaker 2: Are his spirit guides.
Speaker 1: He's in constant communication with these entities. For lack of
Speaker 1: better words, but like, okay, so I had had a
Speaker 1: couple of experiences with something other than quote unquote, and
Speaker 1: I'm using these terms as loosely and broadly as possible.
Speaker 1: I had a demonic attachment to me from the time
Speaker 1: I was like five to the time I was in
Speaker 1: my early twenties, right, so I knew what the difference
Speaker 1: between a demon versus a light orb would be. Like
Speaker 1: we're talking to completely different conversations. I saw a flying
Speaker 1: for lack of better words, and I know this is
Speaker 1: gonna sound like I'm detracting from the conversation. I swear
Speaker 1: to God him not a flying el Camino. And I
Speaker 1: saw this beach twice in my teenage years. Me and
Speaker 1: my younger brother outside saw it twice. I don't think
Speaker 1: that was a UFO or UAP. I believe there's some
Speaker 1: crazy kuna ass out there, which the record's not an
Speaker 1: aggressive term. That's a term for a Cajun. But anyway,
Speaker 1: come in Louisiana. I think somebody figured out how to
Speaker 1: make a flying car happen. But my point is, though
Speaker 1: I knew what it was to see a thing in
Speaker 1: the sky that you can't exactly explain and at least
Speaker 1: register that in your mind, right, Okay, cool, here we are,
Speaker 1: Jonathan me are shooting an episode.
Speaker 2: Nick pulls up electro. Nick shout out to him.
Speaker 1: He's a homie, a fan of the show All things
Speaker 1: cult remember through and Through right, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: the homies are outside if.
Speaker 2: You want to meet him.
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, Nick, okay, you're pleadians. Your guides are
Speaker 1: just outside. He's like, yeah, I brought him. You want
Speaker 1: to meet him?
Speaker 13: Bro?
Speaker 4: A star.
Speaker 2: It's nighttime. There's a star in the sky.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how many of y'all have ever
Speaker 1: looked up at the stars and seen what they do.
Speaker 1: Satellites move through the sky very slowly, yes, but they
Speaker 1: move across the sky. Planes or anything of a flying
Speaker 1: nature will blink. Drones are not going to fly as
Speaker 1: high as this thing was. He literally was like, all right,
Speaker 1: you're ready. I'm going to make it dim out boom,
Speaker 1: and he pointed at it. It dimmed to nothingness, and
Speaker 1: then he's like, all right, al ready for return back home.
Speaker 2: We're like, wait what?
Speaker 1: And it turned back on brighter than before, and then,
Speaker 1: like Jonathan said, when the cloud would come in front
Speaker 1: of it, it would shine brighter, like go through the clouds.
Speaker 1: As soon as it was a clear sky, it would
Speaker 1: dim out. He made it do this like five fucking
Speaker 1: times on repeat. Honestly, still to this day, have no
Speaker 1: way of quantifying what the fuck.
Speaker 2: We were watching.
Speaker 3: And we were out there for hours, like you, Nick
Speaker 3: and Jacob ended up going back in and shooting, and
Speaker 3: I was just like, fuck the episode, I need to
Speaker 3: go and I want to be in the presence of this,
Speaker 3: you know. So I stayed out there for like an
Speaker 3: hour and a half, two hours or something, and it
Speaker 3: was just continuously doing it, like it never stopped. And
Speaker 3: and so ever since then, I was like, man, like,
Speaker 3: I'm so jealous Nick is able to call these things out,
Speaker 3: Like I wonder if I can do that, you know,
Speaker 3: like how cool would that be to just fucking babe
Speaker 3: ruth something?
Speaker 2: And here it is? And and so I tried and tried.
Speaker 3: I would go out, you know, in the night sky,
Speaker 3: or I would go outside and very clear sky, and
Speaker 3: I'd be like, all right, you know, can you show
Speaker 3: yourself kind of thing?
Speaker 2: And to be honest, I was still learning.
Speaker 3: To accept that this was real, you know, right, and
Speaker 3: and so maybe I didn't believe as hard as Nick did.
Speaker 3: And uh, and then it was actually Brohemian Grove too.
Speaker 3: That's the second time that I saw it. Nick just
Speaker 3: so happened to be there and we're out in the
Speaker 3: parking lot and we're looking up in the sky and
Speaker 3: Nick's like, oh shit, look there's one. And we saw
Speaker 3: like four or five of them that night. But these
Speaker 3: ones weren't stationary in the sky. They seem to be
Speaker 3: traversing the sky and they were just I mean nothing, like,
Speaker 3: there's no way it's a satellite. No way, it's an airplane.
Speaker 3: No way, it's fucking anything that I know of that
Speaker 3: would be human. And in it's.
Speaker 4: Was again was he speaking to it again?
Speaker 3: And he had a feeling that he knew it was
Speaker 3: going to happen a night that we were out there,
Speaker 3: and and so that was a crazy thing. And so
Speaker 3: even after that, I was like, man, I really want
Speaker 3: this to happen. And it was like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: four or five months ago, I'm out in my in
Speaker 3: like the in the front of my apartment, I'm taking
Speaker 3: the track. I'm like, you know what, I'll give it
Speaker 3: a shot, you know, And then I called one out, dude,
Speaker 3: and I was like, holy fuck, I got the.
Speaker 2: Power I'm a wizard. What's going on right now?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: And it was awesome, dude, And I the second I
Speaker 3: went into to go tell my family about it, it disappeared.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh shit, all right, that's cool
Speaker 3: because it was like it felt like it was only
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And then to like two months ago, I'm out camping
Speaker 3: in Louisiana with my daughter and my nieces and my
Speaker 3: nephew and my sister's out there and I'm sitting out
Speaker 3: by the fire and right in front of the fire,
Speaker 3: there's like this pond and we were fishing and all
Speaker 3: that stuff. But it was really clear sky, really, you know,
Speaker 3: it was it was a nice night. And I'm looking
Speaker 3: up and I'm like, man, it would be so awesome
Speaker 3: if you guys could just show me yourselves for the kids,
Speaker 3: if nothing else, like, I would love for the kids
Speaker 3: to be able to witness something like this.
Speaker 2: And dude, I shit you not.
Speaker 3: We counted twenty one orbs in one night, and we
Speaker 3: saw them traversing in every witch direction. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: they were all going north or all going south. No,
Speaker 3: we had southeast, southwest, northeast, and like every single possible
Speaker 3: direction they were going across the sky.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is that they don't.
Speaker 3: Move very fast, like they're moving almost at like a
Speaker 3: cruising type of speed, right, They almost want to be seen.
Speaker 3: And some of them are brighter, some of them are dimmer.
Speaker 3: But there's absolutely I don't know what they are. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure even labeling them, you're going to mislabel them,
Speaker 3: and right, you know, like there's just no way of
Speaker 3: calling it really.
Speaker 1: So Nick has asked me offline if because he knows
Speaker 1: that I'm the resident Christian of this show, and so
Speaker 1: he's asked me because we've had so many people say, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in aliens, I believe in demons, right,
Speaker 1: So clearly, if there's something in the sky, it's got
Speaker 1: to be of a demonic origin. I'm personal don't believe that,
Speaker 1: but I know I'm an outlier as far as that's concerned.
Speaker 1: And he's asked me, He's like, bro, so in your
Speaker 1: personal religious beliefs, what do you think I'm communicating with
Speaker 1: Because he's not just seeing these these are communicating with him.
Speaker 2: He is speaking to these orbs.
Speaker 1: Right, And I gotta be honest with you, as I
Speaker 1: usually do whenever it's something that you can't just put
Speaker 1: into a file. I say, test the spirit and then
Speaker 1: test the fruit, right, So test the spirit of this thing.
Speaker 1: What is it telling you? Is it telling you positive,
Speaker 1: uplifting things? Is it telling you bad negative things? Is
Speaker 1: it telling you that you're a god in and of yourself?
Speaker 1: Or is it telling you to have some compassion understanding
Speaker 1: for humanity? You see what I'm saying here, there's levels
Speaker 1: to whatever it's telling you. And I told Nick, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: for all the things that it's told you, I don't
Speaker 1: believe you're talking to a demon. I honestly don't. I've
Speaker 1: spoken to a demon right for years. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I can tell you that's not what this is.
Speaker 1: I also don't believe this is an angel either. I
Speaker 1: don't believe. So He's like, so, what do you think that?
Speaker 1: In this kind of falls into what I believe. I
Speaker 1: believe that there are aliens. I believe that there are
Speaker 1: interdimensional beings. I believe that there are also angels and
Speaker 1: demons completely separate. I believe I just listed four separate
Speaker 1: entities that are not intermingled in any way.
Speaker 2: Shape or form. They could be.
Speaker 1: I'm not the all knowwhere of things and stuff. What
Speaker 1: I mean is that, like it's we know for sure
Speaker 1: that we have matt that equates.
Speaker 2: To the tenth, eleventh, twelfth dimension.
Speaker 1: Right, So what does a fourth dimensional object look like
Speaker 1: in our third dimension?
Speaker 2: Possibly a light orb? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do know that angels and demons exist outside of
Speaker 1: all of the dimensions, just as far as my understanding,
Speaker 1: And I also believe there's probably life on other planets
Speaker 1: and other galaxies outside of our atmosphere, right, And I
Speaker 1: believe that the God that I worship is big enough
Speaker 1: to create all these things that are happening separately from
Speaker 1: each other and all still a part of his glorious plan.
Speaker 2: That's just me, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like us trying to say that we're the
Speaker 1: only life on Earth in the existence kind of puts
Speaker 1: God in a box to say that interdimensional life is
Speaker 1: completely like that can't be.
Speaker 2: That is limiting God's power. So I don't do that.
Speaker 2: So I'm like Jason, I don't be honest. These orbs?
Speaker 2: Could they be extraterrestrial life?
Speaker 1: Could these be from four galaxies a way that somehow
Speaker 1: have chosen you to be their speaker?
Speaker 4: Possibly?
Speaker 1: Could this be a fifth dimensional entity that has come
Speaker 1: down to the third dimension and for whatever reason said
Speaker 1: that he's gonna fuck around with you. Possibly right, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer necessarily, but judging based off
Speaker 1: of testing the fruit and testing the spirit of what
Speaker 1: is orb has been telling him for years now, I
Speaker 1: don't believe it is a inherently evil or malevolent force.
Speaker 7: Okay, so you talk about the fruit, So what kind
Speaker 7: of message is Nick getting from these things?
Speaker 1: It's usually he'll get signs from time to time, as
Speaker 1: far as like there will be floods around this time,
Speaker 1: there will be this type of real not necessarily cataclysm,
Speaker 1: but a big event that, like, as he's writing it
Speaker 1: down in twenty eighteen, and he'll put up a tweet
Speaker 1: about it or something, he'll forget all about it.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four comes around, he's like, oh shit, that
Speaker 2: tweet that I put up.
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen just came through to fruition. And there's
Speaker 1: gonna be people that are saying, look, even a blind
Speaker 1: squirrel can catch a nut every now and then.
Speaker 2: Listen. Okay, fine, fine, but statistically.
Speaker 1: Speaking, there's no way that he's gotten this much right
Speaker 1: as he has.
Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, you have to look at it
Speaker 2: through a very broad land.
Speaker 1: It's not like he can call the exact date, the
Speaker 1: exact time, in the exact place of the exact event. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's keep it in the realm with exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Even the profits of the Bible weren't able to get
Speaker 1: it that specific here.
Speaker 2: But what I am saying is that more often than not.
Speaker 1: The message that he is getting from these Pleadians is profound,
Speaker 1: introspective as well as respect and love and light and
Speaker 1: compassion for your fellow man. Do not judge too harshly. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, be kind to one another, do good for
Speaker 1: the earth. And that's what I'm saying, Like demons wouldn't
Speaker 1: give you that type of a message. Maybe one off
Speaker 1: to try to gain your trust, not consistently for the
Speaker 1: better part of eight years.
Speaker 6: I will say this, so I don't mean to cut
Speaker 6: anybody off. But what's very interesting too with the kind
Speaker 6: of point you made. And this is not to shoot
Speaker 6: anything down, like I agree, but what's interesting too is
Speaker 6: me and my buddy we went and we went to
Speaker 6: North Georgia, and we stayed at night up there, we camped,
Speaker 6: and then we got up in the morning and we went.
Speaker 6: We visited the Georgia guidestones, no doubt, dude, got my hands,
Speaker 6: got my I got to kiss them.
Speaker 5: What's right?
Speaker 6: So I'm there and I'm reading it, and we're all
Speaker 6: reading it together, and obviously we can only read the
Speaker 6: English translation, not the other nine different translations. But as
Speaker 6: we're reading it, you know, and I'm looking at it,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, this doesn't sound good.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: But my friend to my left guy used to podcast
Speaker 6: podcast with He goes, well, it doesn't sound too bad to.
Speaker 14: Me, reducing the earth population. So it's kind of like
Speaker 14: that that. It's it's how are we perceiving these things
Speaker 14: rather than like really critically thinking about them. And it's like, well,
Speaker 14: if it perceives off good, it doesn't mean it's good.
Speaker 2: No, it does.
Speaker 6: It could mean that it's it's got a different hidden
Speaker 6: perspective of it that you need to think about rather
Speaker 6: than just see what you're receptive to.
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, and I'm just I'm just throwing that
Speaker 5: out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it's a good point though, dude, I say that
Speaker 1: about the Mormons, right, So listen, testing the fruit versus
Speaker 1: testing the spirit. The Mormon's got some fruit, Okay, if
Speaker 1: you look at any businessman who happens to be a
Speaker 1: member of the Church of Latter day Saints.
Speaker 2: They are racking the fuck up. They have got the
Speaker 2: game on lock. As far as like Mormons helping Mormons
Speaker 2: and all that.
Speaker 1: If you're testing strictly the fruit, the Mormons are fucking
Speaker 1: on one and they haven't missed. But you also have
Speaker 1: to test the spirit right, and then when you do that,
Speaker 1: and you can merge that with testing the fruit, you'll
Speaker 1: see that this spruit's kind of rotten actually, because the
Speaker 1: spirit is completely defunt. So you can't just test one
Speaker 1: and you cannot just test the other. I got another guy.
Speaker 1: You'll test the spirit on him all day, and you
Speaker 1: could tell that he walks with God daily all these things,
Speaker 1: but he is also a piece of shit to his children.
Speaker 1: So like, okay, if we're going to test just the
Speaker 1: spirit without looking at the fruits, he looks like an
Speaker 1: amazing guy. You have to test the entirety. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: with you, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I agree with you man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And it's so funny too, Like what do we say
Speaker 6: to each other when we first walk up to one
Speaker 6: another and we've never met each other ever, We're like Hey,
Speaker 6: what's your name, what do you do?
Speaker 4: What's good to meet you?
Speaker 5: And so it's like I have the same questions for
Speaker 5: some of these things, Hey what's your name, what do
Speaker 5: you do? What do you work for?
Speaker 2: Well? Are you doing that out of respect?
Speaker 1: Because in American society, a lot of that could be like, okay,
Speaker 1: so what do you do, Oh, I'm a plumber or
Speaker 1: cut to oh I'm a chemical engineer, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people will designate what level of respect they should
Speaker 1: give to this person based off of what they do.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with that, although I can see
Speaker 1: that in some way, shape or form, there's a level
Speaker 1: to it, like, Okay, you are the type of person
Speaker 1: that went through and got a degree and has you know,
Speaker 1: achieved a certain career path, and so like that's respectable
Speaker 1: versus Oh, I'm kind of between jobs right now.
Speaker 2: I was a drug dealer for ten years and now
Speaker 2: I kind.
Speaker 1: Of float couch to couch, Like, okay, maybe a level
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I don't just.
Speaker 7: Set the whole bunch of people that I know that
Speaker 7: drug dealer comment right there.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of those guys.
Speaker 1: Same brother, Like, but you can't always designate the level
Speaker 1: of respect you give to somebody based off of that.
Speaker 1: I give everybody the exact same level of respect, whether
Speaker 1: it's the janitor versus the CEO of the company. But
Speaker 1: to your point, right, you ask somebody who are you,
Speaker 1: where are you from?
Speaker 2: What you do? You get to know them in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form.
Speaker 1: We just have to make sure that we keep ourselves
Speaker 1: in check when we do so, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I have a question. I have a question
Speaker 6: for the table. And so are these things walking amongst us?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 6: We're talking about extraterrestrial life different civilized sure, right. The
Speaker 6: probability of it, Yeah, you could land on a planet
Speaker 6: and there could be something we don't know what really
Speaker 6: that we don't know the contents of everything above us, right,
Speaker 6: But so do you think these things are are here
Speaker 6: walking amongst us?
Speaker 5: I think we got a real life men in black
Speaker 5: going on.
Speaker 1: Jonathan, you take that one first, because you and I
Speaker 1: have very different answers on this.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure I believe everything is one, It's all
Speaker 3: one consciousness. We're all just we all just believe that
Speaker 3: we're separate individuals. So whatever we are seeing in the
Speaker 3: sky it just has to have a some kind of consciousness,
Speaker 3: and all of that consciousness is all one thing. So
Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's And I know this
Speaker 3: can be a little bit contrived.
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 3: It could just be us, like whatever we are. I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about us as humans. I'm talking about us
Speaker 3: as the consciousness, as the awareness, as the as the spirit,
Speaker 3: as the soul, whatever it is, whatever we are.
Speaker 2: I think that it's just now.
Speaker 3: Is that higher dimensional shit are they, you know, floating
Speaker 3: around Mars? I don't know, you know, like I don't
Speaker 3: even know what the fuck to believe about space, to
Speaker 3: be honest with you. So I think that it's very
Speaker 3: likely that we live in some kind of enclosed system
Speaker 3: that is also an illusion for a dream that God
Speaker 3: may be having. I don't know, you know, it could
Speaker 3: be so many things, And I think that it's almost
Speaker 3: unfair to look at it through any specific lens because
Speaker 3: there's no way that any of us would be able
Speaker 3: to like nail it down.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It depends on who you ask for these kind of situations, right,
Speaker 3: you know, like if you see I don't know, like
Speaker 3: I've I've done psychedelics in my day and I believe
Speaker 3: that the psychedelic like by by taking psychedelics, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna sound like everybody's gonna be like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: he's such a fucking drugg it's I don't look at
Speaker 3: psychedelics like a drug by any means. I believe that,
Speaker 3: like whatever we see when we're on psychedelics may be
Speaker 3: some kind of like overlay of what's happening in this reality.
Speaker 3: And I think that essentially, when we talk about dimensions,
Speaker 3: these things are overlapped on top of us. You know,
Speaker 3: I mentioned the Druids earlier, and the Druids used to
Speaker 3: talk about this thing called the other world. Well, they
Speaker 3: weren't talking about Hell. They were talking about literally another
Speaker 3: dimension that is directly on top of us that we
Speaker 3: do not have the senses two cents. And I think
Speaker 3: that that's probably what we're looking at when we see
Speaker 3: orbs up in the sky or somebody has like a
Speaker 3: weird alien experience. I think that somehow, maybe due to frequencies,
Speaker 3: maybe due to vibration, maybe due to your emotions, maybe
Speaker 3: due to your thoughts, maybe due to whatever the fuck,
Speaker 3: maybe it was like I don't know, shining light in
Speaker 3: the in just the right angle for you to be
Speaker 3: able to even perceive what that is. I think that
Speaker 3: it's all happening, and it's all happening right here. I
Speaker 3: think that that's all there is, all there is. I
Speaker 3: think it's all just one big fuck video game, bro,
Speaker 3: And like that makes the most sense. I'm not even
Speaker 3: gonna say a video game. I always I've come to
Speaker 3: the conclusion I believe that this is all a dream
Speaker 3: and one day we're gonna wake up and say, God, damn,
Speaker 3: what a dream that was. I think that's what's gonna
Speaker 3: happen when we die. And so whenever we're seeing shit
Speaker 3: up in the sky orbs UFOs whatever, I think it's
Speaker 3: just a dimensional overlay.
Speaker 1: I fully believe that the Men in Black is based
Speaker 1: off of true events. At this point, I fully believe
Speaker 1: there are alien slash reptilians wearing a skin suit walking
Speaker 1: around this earth.
Speaker 2: Now I may not.
Speaker 1: I don't think these are the necessarily they could be,
Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily believe that these are the political powers, right,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think the Killery is a reptilian.
Speaker 2: She may be. I could be wrong on that, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 1: The bloodline thing, Like maybe there's something to be set
Speaker 1: for blood magic and hereditary curses and hereditary blessings.
Speaker 2: So like, I'm with that the Bible talks about this.
Speaker 2: I believe this.
Speaker 1: But as far as aliens the colloquial term of aliens right, interdimensional, interplanetary,
Speaker 1: whatever flavoring you want to put on this, that are
Speaker 1: walking amongst us currently today, and we wouldn't know the difference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe that's more probable than not.
Speaker 3: I look, and this is why I say, it all
Speaker 3: depends on who you ask, Because if you had ask
Speaker 3: the Native American, that's the great spirit or that's our ancestors.
Speaker 3: If you would ask an irishman three four hundred years ago,
Speaker 3: well that's clearly a leprechaun, or that's a pixie, or
Speaker 3: that's a fayfolk or something like that. You ask somebody
Speaker 3: who's really into like ghost hunting, well it has to
Speaker 3: be a ghost spirit. And that's what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: it could be anything and everything. It's all just about
Speaker 3: like what kind of word and definition that we attach
Speaker 3: to it. And so like you hear about people having
Speaker 3: like really strange experiences whenever they have sleep paralysis, for example,
Speaker 3: And I'm the kind of person. I don't just go
Speaker 3: along to get along. I'm never going to be somebody
Speaker 3: that just believes because I want to, Like, I'm not, like,
Speaker 3: I want to get to the actual core of whatever
Speaker 3: it is that like that we're looking up Like I
Speaker 3: think that that is as true of a research as
Speaker 3: you possibly can do, is getting to the absolute core.
Speaker 2: And and I don't. I mean, I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: on a decent path.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm starting to get it, but I
Speaker 3: think it would to be honest, I think it all
Speaker 3: just goes back to what Nikola Tesla said. Dude, it's
Speaker 3: just all fucking energy, frequency and vibration.
Speaker 2: That's all we are.
Speaker 3: You hear like videos of like Jim Carrey talking and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I fucking love everything that Jim Carrey says. I think
Speaker 2: he's awesome.
Speaker 3: But he goes, look, I think we're just like Adams,
Speaker 3: dancing around in the universe for each other, like and
Speaker 3: we think that we're doing something, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that most likely it's some kind of just
Speaker 3: dream and I don't know, maybe we align our energy
Speaker 3: to it. Then you start getting real weird because so
Speaker 3: many people can just interpret it so many different ways,
Speaker 3: and it's a very convoluted subject, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to take away from anybody's personal experience, you know, like
Speaker 3: like Jacob has had a demonic experience, I've had an
Speaker 3: experience with a fucking Egyptian cat that wanted to come
Speaker 3: and spoon me.
Speaker 2: Like I've also, like you want to do more than
Speaker 2: spoon you home. That's real.
Speaker 3: She was trying to get that due. I mean, she
Speaker 3: could have had it. She could have had it if
Speaker 3: she'd have just stayed a little bit longer. Oh, but
Speaker 3: I think that everybody, it's it's all up to the individual.
Speaker 3: Like forget teaming up with the masses on any of
Speaker 3: this shit. It is for the individual person. Whatever happens
Speaker 3: to you individually, that is your experience, that is your reality,
Speaker 3: that is your life, And how you interesting, how you
Speaker 3: choose to look at it will almost mimic how you
Speaker 3: want to look at it. And I think that it's
Speaker 3: somewhat of a mirror kind of sensation.
Speaker 7: This is reminding me of a DMT experience that I had.
Speaker 7: And have you guys ever heard about d MT aco.
Speaker 2: Four aco DM is usually our flavoring.
Speaker 4: Is it the same thing?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 4: Okay, So I got a fake last year or the
Speaker 4: year before.
Speaker 7: My father in law was like, Hey, I got a
Speaker 7: mushroom bar. And I've taken mushrooms for years and I
Speaker 7: haven't taken them in quite a while, and I've always
Speaker 7: had good experiences off mushrooms.
Speaker 4: And I took.
Speaker 7: This mushroom bar and I broke it in half because
Speaker 7: I'm like, I normally take three point five grams of mushrooms.
Speaker 7: If I ever take mushrooms, like, that's the minimum dose
Speaker 7: that's gonna get you there. It's gonna get you your
Speaker 7: happy experience. It's going to be Really I've only ever
Speaker 7: had good experiences. I haven't seen little machine elves and
Speaker 7: talked to entities. I just had good social experiences with mushrooms.
Speaker 4: So I was like, yeah, let's take this.
Speaker 7: But it was DMT was synthetic like mushrooms D four
Speaker 7: aco or.
Speaker 4: Whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four aco that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Is that what it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, So I took I just did it when
Speaker 2: we were at bro Growth.
Speaker 7: Yeah okay, So I took four hundred milligrams. How much
Speaker 7: do you normally take?
Speaker 3: God, damn dude, I don't know what the milligrams are
Speaker 3: to be honest with you.
Speaker 4: But I normally you're only sunned to take fifty I
Speaker 4: took four hundred.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you just decided to dive off into it.
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 5: I cried for twelve hours.
Speaker 7: I believe it, not twelve no, no, no. So the
Speaker 7: reason why I was crying, I cried for like.
Speaker 1: The body, mind and spirit are all having a conversation
Speaker 1: with each other.
Speaker 2: Okay, he needs to cry it out.
Speaker 7: I feel that the reason why I was crying because
Speaker 7: I literally went through almost everyone I know in my
Speaker 7: life and I figured out their whole life path and
Speaker 7: why we're here, and we're in a time loop, and
Speaker 7: it might just be psychosis, right, But I come back
Speaker 7: to the verse Ecclesiastes one to nine, and that's what
Speaker 7: has been done, will be done and again pretty much
Speaker 7: in the short term of the verse.
Speaker 4: But I felt like I was in this time loop.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, I had this this magenta
Speaker 7: and emerald green wave of like a Nokian language or
Speaker 7: I don't know what the hell it was. It was
Speaker 7: like this weird symbol and it was just like waving
Speaker 7: like a wave in front of my face the whole time,
Speaker 7: and that's at the same time, it was just like
Speaker 7: I was having a flashback of the time loop and
Speaker 7: it just kept.
Speaker 4: Going and I was like, I get it. I was
Speaker 4: like I get it. I told my wife. I was like,
Speaker 4: I can understand everything. I get it.
Speaker 7: And I woke up the next morning and didn't really
Speaker 7: remember any of it.
Speaker 6: That's so funny when you say that. It makes me think, like,
Speaker 6: what if the author of the Emerald tabits of both.
Speaker 6: What if he had a DMT experience maybe saw Well
Speaker 6: he says he's got a lot of his information from
Speaker 6: like an angel or whatever, but what if he maybe
Speaker 6: saw something similar. You know, he doesn't have to disclose
Speaker 6: that he took psychedelics or anything like that with his
Speaker 6: path to formulating all this information and writing it down
Speaker 6: into a book and all this kind of stuff. But
Speaker 6: the d MT talk makes me think of like my
Speaker 6: college days, and I was a Christian even in these days.
Speaker 6: But obviously, you know, life's a roller coaster, right, we're
Speaker 6: human nature, and we screw up time to time, right, So.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't believe that being a Christian and
Speaker 1: also delving into psychedelics is necessarily a bad thing, Just.
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's okay. The ears are probably doing
Speaker 2: it anyway.
Speaker 6: And so I'm in college and so my buddy gets
Speaker 6: the wise idea to look up a bunch of YouTube videos.
Speaker 6: Also did a lot of extensive research of how to
Speaker 6: make d MT from organics, and so we ended up
Speaker 6: actually getting a VPN ordering the bark from where we
Speaker 6: were supposed to order it from cooking it down, you know,
Speaker 6: refining it down with some kerosene, and through evaporation process
Speaker 6: crystal started to form. It was actually really kind of crazy,
Speaker 6: like we were cooking in an apartment's stupid college kids
Speaker 6: trying to explore the universe, right, So we do this
Speaker 6: and and I didn't trip or anything like that. I
Speaker 6: think it was just probably just we didn't really make
Speaker 6: it as strong as we were, you know, our intentions were.
Speaker 1: So we make it first attempt man, cut yourself some slack.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So basically like we you know, we were trying
Speaker 6: to connect with something, right, So that that went by,
Speaker 6: and so I think like a few weeks went by
Speaker 6: we were trying to do this.
Speaker 5: The apartment smelled for.
Speaker 4: Like two weeks. Dude.
Speaker 5: It's not like a it's not like a campsite.
Speaker 6: You get in there, it's just smells like Caro Senior, Like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, Oh man, that was terrible, dude.
Speaker 5: It was terrible.
Speaker 6: But you know, I'm with my ex girlfriend at the time,
Speaker 6: staying at her dorm room at her college that's probably
Speaker 6: thirty miles away whatever, and so we're all having this
Speaker 6: conversation at night with her dorm roommates and boyfriends were
Speaker 6: all there. We're hanging out, we're drinking whatever. You know,
Speaker 6: we start talking about the mysteries of the universe and
Speaker 6: all this, and I kind of just start someone somehow
Speaker 6: Jesus got brought up, right, Jesus tends to get brought
Speaker 6: up in a lot of these kind of conversations. And
Speaker 6: so whatever I'm talking, I'm doing my thing. I'm kind
Speaker 6: of just you know, sharing what I know about the information,
Speaker 6: the topic.
Speaker 1: And so that night, and you were still a relatively
Speaker 1: like baby Christian at this.
Speaker 6: Time, Yeah, drinking milk pretty much, man, Right. So, and
Speaker 6: you know, it's nighttime sleeping, and I have this experience
Speaker 6: and you can call it maybe sleep paralysis, but I
Speaker 6: totally deny all of that because I was awake and
Speaker 6: I was moving immediately, I woke up, felt the presence
Speaker 6: that I wasn't the only one in the room. A
Speaker 6: little bit like stiff, like a board, can move, my
Speaker 6: eyes can move, my head, I'm awake. I look straight
Speaker 6: down the hallway because I felt like that again, like
Speaker 6: there's a weird perception that kind of I'm having. Either
Speaker 6: it's in this sort of dream state, but maybe maybe
Speaker 6: my mind has opened up a little bit more than
Speaker 6: my natural state, you know, eight, you know, eight to
Speaker 6: eight whatever.
Speaker 5: So I'm feeling that there's something there. I look down
Speaker 5: the hallway.
Speaker 6: There's a twelve foot I mean, he's bigger than the doorframe, right,
Speaker 6: so he's taller than it, big twelve foot, dark cloaked
Speaker 6: figure at at the end of the hallway, just in
Speaker 6: front of the bathroom door.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh shit, A couple of questions.
Speaker 1: Number one, yes you see feet, No feet, No, it
Speaker 1: was just a bear worthy eyes.
Speaker 5: There was no eyes. It was just a black figure, right.
Speaker 6: And so again I'm looking at this thing and it's foreign,
Speaker 6: and I know it doesn't really like me. For some reason.
Speaker 6: There was just this connection obviously that we made. And
Speaker 6: so when I knew that it was not welcome in
Speaker 6: my presence, it said ha, and it zoomed right up
Speaker 6: to me, right up to my bedside. I mean kind
Speaker 6: of glid. It was like he was gliding or whatever
Speaker 6: it was. It was enough to I mean, my hair
Speaker 6: is sticking up on my arms right now. Came right
Speaker 6: over to me, started choking me out, started choking me out,
Speaker 6: couldn't breathe, struggling. I started to get to the to
Speaker 6: the point of impending doom where I'm like, I am
Speaker 6: going to die, and I just cried out, cried out
Speaker 6: to Christ. It was the last kind of thing that
Speaker 6: and a lot of people too in The Communion. I
Speaker 6: don't know if you guys have read that book, The Communion,
Speaker 6: but I think it also gets into like alien abduction
Speaker 6: phenomenons in these situations where some people do document that
Speaker 6: they have cried out to Christ and there was some
Speaker 6: sort of change in event that took place. But anyways,
Speaker 6: in my experience, I did that and nothing happened. But
Speaker 6: I was able to loosen my right arm, and so
Speaker 6: I just remember thinking of the Rambo movie where he
Speaker 6: gripped the guy's throat and basically like just ripped it
Speaker 6: right off his body. I went and did the same notion,
Speaker 6: and I grabbed it by its throat. It was like,
Speaker 6: you're choking me. I'm gonna choke you.
Speaker 2: It was cold or was it warm?
Speaker 6: It was it was it was like it was it
Speaker 6: was solid to where I could grip something. It wasn't
Speaker 6: like my hand was closing. I was gripping something. I
Speaker 6: couldn't feel the what exactly part of this physical realm.
Speaker 5: It was solid liquid gas.
Speaker 6: I don't know, right, So I'm gripping this thing and
Speaker 6: I go to rip its throat out and it disappears
Speaker 6: in my ex girlfriend grabs my arm while it's up
Speaker 6: in the air, right, grabs it while it's up in
Speaker 6: the air. She goes, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 6: And I was like, did you just watch that whole thing?
Speaker 6: She said, I watched the whole thing. It's like, did
Speaker 6: you see anything? She's like, no, I said, I saw something,
Speaker 6: And this is weird, wicked crazy. All the lights went
Speaker 6: on in the room, dude, I turned all the lights
Speaker 6: in the room on. I'm in my underwear. I'm freaked
Speaker 6: out and anyways, but interesting experience. That's probably one of
Speaker 6: the only weird experience I've had, you know, sleep paralysis. Obviously,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of experiences like that I did some
Speaker 6: further research down the line, saw that there was an
Speaker 6: independent study that was going on. I forget what exactly
Speaker 6: hospital it was, but it was in their psych unit.
Speaker 6: A lot of the psychic patients were actually having a
Speaker 6: lot of the same symptoms and their sleep and all this,
Speaker 6: and they ran tests, they ran sleep demographics, they did
Speaker 6: all kinds of all kinds of tests. Man, And at
Speaker 6: the end of it, even the skeptical doctor who was
Speaker 6: trying to in a way run the trial so that
Speaker 6: he could disprove what people were kind of alluding to,
Speaker 6: and he even kind of was like, yeah, this may
Speaker 6: be something deeper than we really can say scientifically.
Speaker 2: Were you so you were in the middle of sleeping
Speaker 2: and then you woke up or had you fallen asleep?
Speaker 6: So my eyes were open, and when I ripped the
Speaker 6: throat towards me and I'm moving my arm this way,
Speaker 6: it's like it it's like my my field of view
Speaker 6: kind of pans to the right, and my ex girlfriend
Speaker 6: was holding my arm and then everything was gone.
Speaker 5: I mean, almost like how a scene would just switch.
Speaker 3: So no, I mean like whenever it initially started happening,
Speaker 3: whenever you said that you don't think that it was
Speaker 3: sleep paralysis. You're able to you know, blink your eyes
Speaker 3: and move your head and stuff like that. Were you
Speaker 3: did you just wake up or were you about to
Speaker 3: fall asleep?
Speaker 2: Like? What was the what was going on right before?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I woke It seemed like I woke up
Speaker 6: because I had a sense that there was something watching me,
Speaker 6: and I was like, oh shit moment because I've had
Speaker 6: another experience before this with sleep paralysis, wasn't this intense,
Speaker 6: But it's almost like when you're like put in the
Speaker 6: same position and you're like, damn, dude, is this really
Speaker 6: happening again? But instead, the difference with this one was
Speaker 6: I wasn't I could I could talk. I could, I
Speaker 6: could I could kind of like say some things even
Speaker 6: though I didn't. But I knew that the difference between
Speaker 6: the first time was that I wasn't just moaning and
Speaker 6: groaning for help. It was more like I was more
Speaker 6: conscious and alert, maybe still in the dream state again.
Speaker 6: That kind of shit's crazy, dude, to really kind of
Speaker 6: narrow down put your finger on it. It's a weird,
Speaker 6: wild experience. So I don't know that sounds.
Speaker 1: Very similar to my experience when I was sixteen and
Speaker 1: my demon re appeared to me. That's why I was
Speaker 1: asking some specific questions about it.
Speaker 2: So I feel you on this, but we're so crazy.
Speaker 7: I've all have have Jonathan and Jacob, Have you guys
Speaker 7: experienced shadow people as well?
Speaker 1: No, my experience, Jonathan has not. I kind of quick
Speaker 1: TLDR on my whole background of it. Well, I was
Speaker 1: five or six years old. I had a demonic presence.
Speaker 1: I was presenting itself as my grandmother who had just
Speaker 1: died a few years prior. Oh, and I was going
Speaker 1: out to the playground every day and seeing my grandmother.
Speaker 1: And I thought that it was like, I'm five or six,
Speaker 1: and yes, I was raising a Christian household, but at
Speaker 1: five or six, you don't know shit about fuck, you
Speaker 1: know whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, it's my grandmother's spirit, and you know, I
Speaker 2: went out and play with her whatever.
Speaker 1: Until one day, as I'm getting closer to her, her
Speaker 1: face changed and I realized that this was not my
Speaker 1: grandmother's spirit that I was talking to. And I was
Speaker 1: even still too young to understand if this was a demon.
Speaker 1: I remember feeling a spirit of fear. Then there was
Speaker 1: this bright light that came and kind of banished it
Speaker 1: who come to find out this was my guardian angel.
Speaker 1: And I found out more about this creature later cut too,
Speaker 1: I don't see anything until I'm sixteen years old, and
Speaker 1: I have a experience very similar to Steven.
Speaker 2: I was laying in bed, and keep in.
Speaker 1: Mind, at sixteen years old, I already knew that I
Speaker 1: was going to join the Marine Corps. I wasn't a
Speaker 1: scared little boy by any means, but I also wasn't
Speaker 1: a grown man, right, I was in that adolescent stage.
Speaker 1: I wasn't asleep, so very similar to how you're saying
Speaker 1: that you just you're not acknowledging. This was sleep paralysis,
Speaker 1: like absolutely not. My parents were in the kitchen. My
Speaker 1: mom was doing dishes, my dad was sitting at the table.
Speaker 1: I could hear their conversation, so I know I wasn't asleep. However,
Speaker 1: this entity came back and it was in its true
Speaker 1: form right, so it was a shadow.
Speaker 2: But then later on, as.
Speaker 1: I got to my twenties and I had my season
Speaker 1: of doubt where I kind of stepped away from faith
Speaker 1: and was delving into other shit, I got a way
Speaker 1: closer look at my demon.
Speaker 2: So this is when I was still in it like
Speaker 2: shadow form.
Speaker 1: It had golden eyes and a smell of which I
Speaker 1: learned later on that the eye color has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with I guess, for lack of a better words,
Speaker 1: rank structure of the demonic realm, how angels have like
Speaker 1: tears to what level they are Demons also do And
Speaker 1: I found that out looking through a couple of demonology
Speaker 1: books and grim wis and stuff like that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so this thing, I was pretty much glued to the bed.
Speaker 1: I couldn't breathe, I couldn't speak. The only thing I
Speaker 1: could move was my eyes, and this thing was tormenting me.
Speaker 2: It clawed at my side. I used to have scars.
Speaker 2: They healed up.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't even at a stage where I thought
Speaker 1: about crying out to Jesus for this. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what the hell to do. I was stuck. I couldn't breathe,
Speaker 1: but I also couldn't suffocate. I was just in that
Speaker 1: limbo state. And my angel appeared and went through this
Speaker 1: process with a flaming bow and arrow and started pegging
Speaker 1: it and banished it. Come to find out, my demon's
Speaker 1: name was Jonathan as it you know, as weird as
Speaker 1: Saren deputy has it. Of course, my co host and
Speaker 1: best friend these days is a guy named Jonathanita here
Speaker 1: or there. But this angel was I would say, well
Speaker 1: over six foot tall, had two sets of wings, possibly three,
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know.
Speaker 2: It all handsome as all get out here. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 4: Okay, you watched this whole this whole thing go down, whole.
Speaker 2: Thing, whole thing go down, And I was sixteen. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't under the influence of some sort of a
Speaker 1: drug or I wasn't a drinker.
Speaker 2: I was a good kid growing up, dude, none of
Speaker 2: that show.
Speaker 1: I was very strong in my faith, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, my faith wasn't strong enough to where I
Speaker 1: could fight that particular fight.
Speaker 2: In that moment in time.
Speaker 1: So God sent my guardian angel to come and help
Speaker 1: me in that moment, and so that was a whole thing.
Speaker 1: So as you're talking about this story, Stephen, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel you.
Speaker 7: It's really weird that you bring up guardian angel stuff,
Speaker 7: because I've been thinking a lot about it lately. I
Speaker 7: went to my dad's last night. It was the fifth yesterday,
Speaker 7: So yeah, we went there last night and my dad
Speaker 7: was we were talking about a bad car.
Speaker 4: Accident I was in.
Speaker 7: I was coming around a corner near Calico Basin by
Speaker 7: the way, coming out of Calico Basin with my friend,
Speaker 7: and it just started to rain in here in Las
Speaker 7: Vegas that for whatever reason, the roads are way slippery
Speaker 7: or I don't know what it is. People talk about
Speaker 7: oil slick or whatever. But it just started raining and
Speaker 7: I came around the corner. I had a stick shift
Speaker 7: honta a court old like ninety five old.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was dope. I loved it. And it was
Speaker 7: trashed after this. It was gone, spun out, flipped into
Speaker 7: the desert. My buddy in the passenger sheet flipped out
Speaker 7: and flew into the desert like twenty feet and he
Speaker 7: thank god he did because his whole side was crushed.
Speaker 7: But I felt like I had a bubble around me
Speaker 7: when we were flipping, when the car was flipping, I
Speaker 7: felt like I bubble around me, And I'm like, what
Speaker 7: the hell was that?
Speaker 4: And I think about I'm.
Speaker 7: Like, man, I just have a I just have a
Speaker 7: strong feeling there's a guardian angel. And I'm like why, Okay,
Speaker 7: So I've had shadow people confrontation as well. I was
Speaker 7: convulsing off the side of my bed like seven years ago,
Speaker 7: and then I woke up, looked at the ceiling and
Speaker 7: there was a black head right like a solid black
Speaker 7: head on the other side, upside down, on the other
Speaker 7: side of my doorway, and I chased it into the
Speaker 7: living room and I.
Speaker 4: Watched it crawl. It was just very disturbing.
Speaker 7: But I'm just like, why are these things, Like, especially
Speaker 7: my faith now, they just they're not around anymore.
Speaker 4: They don't come around, And I'm like, why why are
Speaker 4: they scared of me?
Speaker 7: Like I'm just a normal person, Like I feel like
Speaker 7: there might actually be I might actually have a guardian
Speaker 7: angel around me.
Speaker 4: That's like cooking these I don't know.
Speaker 1: First of all, yes, And secondly, from the research that
Speaker 1: I've done, demons don't present themselves just to present themselves, right.
Speaker 1: People have this weird misconception where it's kind of like
Speaker 1: Monsters inc. The movie where the monsters they feed off
Speaker 1: of fear, right, they power themselves off of scream energy.
Speaker 2: I believe there was a lot of like innu windows
Speaker 2: to that shit.
Speaker 1: Oh, entities do feed off of fear, but they don't
Speaker 1: just come to a person just to come to a person.
Speaker 1: They typically come to somebody who is destined for some
Speaker 1: level of greatness.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying like some sort of a world leader.
Speaker 1: Okay, even if you just throwing out a hypothetical, if
Speaker 1: you yourself lead ten people to Christ, right, that is
Speaker 1: an enemy of the devil, So he would send a
Speaker 1: demon to try to throw you off of that path.
Speaker 2: Very early on, you'll hear people who.
Speaker 1: Their whole lives they've never had and I'm not calling
Speaker 1: you out, Jonathan Mighty Means on this, but you'll hear
Speaker 1: people who have never had any kind of experience of
Speaker 1: the shadow, realm, or a figure anything like this.
Speaker 2: Religious non religious, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But they also will probably never lead someone to Christ.
Speaker 1: And like that's they think that that's like, oh, well
Speaker 1: that's just bullshit. I've never seen it, so it couldn't
Speaker 1: be real. Biblically speaking, demons are not going to appear
Speaker 1: to somebody unless there is an intent and a purpose. Interesting, right,
Speaker 1: these are They don't just do shit just to be
Speaker 1: doing shit. They are the quote unquote hinchmen of the devil.
Speaker 1: They're going to be set to task for a purpose, right,
Speaker 1: and who knows to what purpose that is.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's very minuscule.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's very grand with all levels of in between
Speaker 1: on this one, right, But yeah, so to your point,
Speaker 1: you probably do have a guardian angel. And the only
Speaker 1: reason why I know my angel's name is because in
Speaker 1: that night I asked him because I recognize that this
Speaker 1: is the same thing that came to me when I
Speaker 1: was five or six or whatever to save me from
Speaker 1: this thing.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I had the wherewithal to ask, like,
Speaker 2: what is your name? Wow?
Speaker 4: And it was.
Speaker 2: It was a weird experience.
Speaker 1: And I've seen my demons since then, like in my
Speaker 1: early twenties, and the last time I saw him, I
Speaker 1: was in my mid twenties, and is when I had
Speaker 1: re established my faith had gotten right with God, and
Speaker 1: I noticed that its eye color had changed, saying that
Speaker 1: I am the reason why he got knocked down a rank.
Speaker 1: Maybe he had been slipping on multiple people. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but he went from a golden eyes to a red eyes,
Speaker 1: which is a level down. And my faith was strong
Speaker 1: enough to where I basically threatened him, which he hasn't
Speaker 1: come back since. And since then, I've also gone through
Speaker 1: a period of fasting where I dispatched my angel to
Speaker 1: guard my children, I am good. I am in a
Speaker 1: strong enough place to where I'm ready to fight that fight.
Speaker 1: I know that my children need protection in this world.
Speaker 1: So I have done a series of praying and fasting
Speaker 1: and sent Jonathan to the protection of my children because
Speaker 1: they need it.
Speaker 2: You know. Wow. Yeah, it's a lot of things of this.
Speaker 1: So to that point, we'll talk about how there is
Speaker 1: interdimensional things and extraterrestrial things and all these things, and
Speaker 1: I believe these are completely separate from angels and demons.
Speaker 1: I understand that I have a weird perspective on that.
Speaker 1: A lot of people disagree with this, but I can
Speaker 1: speak with that. Like the orb that we saw when
Speaker 1: true Nick was out with us was not an angel.
Speaker 1: It was not a demon, right, Maybe it was an
Speaker 1: interdimensional being.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it was an interplanetary being. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: But I also believe that the Spirit realm, and put
Speaker 1: whatever flavoring you want on that, regardless of whatever religious
Speaker 1: background you come from, regardless of whatever book you read
Speaker 1: that you identify with most whatever, I believe the Spirit
Speaker 1: realm supersedes all of the dimensions and all the galaxies
Speaker 1: and all these things. At the same time, I think
Speaker 1: it's all under the umbrella of what I would call
Speaker 1: God or you know, Yahweh, his son Jesus Christ slash
Speaker 1: Yeshua of Nazareth. I believe that all of that is UNDERWI.
Speaker 1: So to say that there's another planet out there in
Speaker 1: a far off galaxy, so God created them too, well yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, they need Jesus to look. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's very possible they never fell from Eden. Maybe that
Speaker 1: entire planet is still in their Garden of Eden phase.
Speaker 1: Maybe Jesus made another appearance there right as he ascended
Speaker 1: into heaven. He asked where he's gone. He said, I
Speaker 1: have sheep not of this fold that I need to
Speaker 1: attend to. The Mormons believe that he meant the Native Americans,
Speaker 1: and that's where they get.
Speaker 2: Their whole Joseph Smith, bullshit.
Speaker 1: Maybe Jesus meant another planet that he had to go
Speaker 1: and be the sacrificial land for them too. Maybe he
Speaker 1: meant the souls in heaven like I don't fucking know,
Speaker 1: But I also believe that other life out there doesn't
Speaker 1: disprove the Bible.
Speaker 2: If anything, it proves it even further.
Speaker 7: But that's just me with my own perspectives, right, No, dude,
Speaker 7: I hear you so much. So funny you say, is
Speaker 7: Jesus on a different planet Dustin nemos We had Dustin
Speaker 7: Nemos on you guys.
Speaker 4: Know about Dustin. The name's familiar, Nemosas.
Speaker 7: He's wild, bro, He's I like the guy a lot.
Speaker 7: He's not liked in the community, by any community. He's
Speaker 7: very polarized. And funny that I say polarized because he
Speaker 7: believes that Jesus is in the Polestar, which is the
Speaker 7: North Star.
Speaker 5: I believe, right, Stevie, Yeah, I think so. I think
Speaker 5: that's what it is.
Speaker 4: It's like the well, it's funny.
Speaker 6: It just kind of goes with like, you know, Jonathan,
Speaker 6: like you talked a little bit about what the what
Speaker 6: the hell is up there? I don't even know what
Speaker 6: space is consisted of. Are we in a container? Like
Speaker 6: who really knows, you know? I mean, polaris right to
Speaker 6: the north start. It doesn't move, it stays fixed. And
Speaker 6: I don't even and I haven't done the research on this,
Speaker 6: but I don't know if it has anything to do
Speaker 6: with like where the main light of the Big Bang
Speaker 6: is coming from? Right, and so this is maybe like
Speaker 6: the throne of creation let's just say who knows, right,
Speaker 6: it seems to be what we understand is the start
Speaker 6: of this entire timeline, right, everything exploded and moved off
Speaker 6: through space and time, and and that's how we we dictate,
Speaker 6: you know, our time frames with things.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I would say necessarily against that
Speaker 1: is that if we came from the Big Bang, we
Speaker 1: would be moving away from that Big Bang point, and
Speaker 1: Polaire's being the north star, it would make sense that
Speaker 1: we'd be moving towards it in a constant motion. And
Speaker 1: I also, people also talk about the Big Bang, is
Speaker 1: that that discredit it's God? Never mind the fact the
Speaker 1: Big Bang was created by a Catholic priest. He's the
Speaker 1: first dude to actually write down the theory of the
Speaker 1: Big Bang. But that's the one that makes the most
Speaker 1: sense to me. And I'm not even saying that it's
Speaker 1: a perfect scenario. I'm saying it just kind of makes
Speaker 1: the most sense because we can observe how our universe
Speaker 1: and all the galaxies are all moving away at a
Speaker 1: more and more rapid pace from a starting point. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to know where that starting point is,
Speaker 1: and they can conjecture that to the cows come home.
Speaker 1: But when you know Genesis one one, right when I
Speaker 1: was talking about God, he was there. The word was
Speaker 1: good and the word was with God, and then he
Speaker 1: spoke the world into existence. Well, I believe that, speaking
Speaker 1: like Jonathan said earlier, everything that we have is a
Speaker 1: series of electricity, vibrations and frequencies. I agree with that wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: And energy cannot be created and or destroyed, only transferred.
Speaker 1: The only two instances where I would disagree with that
Speaker 1: would be we create children, right, human beings. We create children.
Speaker 1: That is giving a whole new life form its own energy.
Speaker 1: And yes, we can debate if that's transferring our energy
Speaker 1: to something else or if that's its own inherent spark
Speaker 1: of life on its own that we had a hand
Speaker 1: in creating. We can argue that point, right what fine,
Speaker 1: Yes to both who cares. The other point I would
Speaker 1: say is that speaking this is creating uh frequency and
Speaker 1: vibrations out of nothing. And yes, it's transferring from our
Speaker 1: mind through our vocal cords slash vocal folds whatever they
Speaker 1: call it these days, outward. But that's the thing. You
Speaker 1: can't unsay something right right. Once it is said, it
Speaker 1: is out there into the ether. That's why spell magic
Speaker 1: is so important and why it's so vital, is because
Speaker 1: you can't unsay some shit that you just said. Get
Speaker 1: in a fight with your old lady one day and
Speaker 1: say something that you wish you could take back.
Speaker 2: I promise you you can't unsay shit. That's how this works.
Speaker 4: You have to revert. You have to you have to say,
Speaker 4: I take that back.
Speaker 7: I said this, This was wrong, and it don't matter,
Speaker 7: and it affected you and it affected me.
Speaker 4: But I just want to revert. I want to revert. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Her ears still heard those words come out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: I can't unsay that, right. That's my point.
Speaker 1: I believe that we can create energy in a certain
Speaker 1: sense with creating sound waves, creating frequency and vibration that
Speaker 1: we are putting out there to the earth that cannot
Speaker 1: be taken back. I believe that if God spoke to
Speaker 1: that level, would we possibly call that a big bang?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 2: I believe this is literally saying the same thing in
Speaker 2: different terms.
Speaker 7: I want to say to that point, to creating a
Speaker 7: certain energy, it's so weird how you go to like
Speaker 7: let's say, Gettysburg or the Bridgewater Triangle stuff and these
Speaker 7: traumatic sights, these these traumatic situations happened, and it's like
Speaker 7: the energy stays there.
Speaker 4: Bro Yeah, it's like the energy stays there. I grew I.
Speaker 7: Grew up in an old warehouse built right across from
Speaker 7: the Erie Canal. It was you grew up in a warehouse? Yeah,
Speaker 7: well partially, yes, yes. My dad lived in his plumbing,
Speaker 7: heating and electric supply house and is a very old
Speaker 7: brick building in the It's on Canal Street and Lions,
Speaker 7: New York, Upstate New York, and we lived.
Speaker 4: It was a very old place and it just held
Speaker 4: a certain energy.
Speaker 7: And it's a lot of people talk about brick to
Speaker 7: being able to you know, if you get into a
Speaker 7: big brick warehouse or a big brick house, like you
Speaker 7: go ahead and get on your phone, you're not gonna
Speaker 7: have any signal.
Speaker 4: It blocks the signal.
Speaker 1: And brick if not clay, right, and the earth, the
Speaker 1: soil absolutely holds a memory. Americans talked about this. This
Speaker 1: is why they felt weird about letting the earth absorb
Speaker 1: so much blood even at a battle. They were very
Speaker 1: meticulous not to let the earth absorb so much blood
Speaker 1: because they felt that the earth would then have a
Speaker 1: hunger for it, and it carried us spirit with it,
Speaker 1: which is why if you look at different Native Americans,
Speaker 1: and not every single one of them, but a lot
Speaker 1: of them that would have torture methods for prisoners, very
Speaker 1: very seldom was their blood letting, because they believe that
Speaker 1: the earth, the soil would have a hunger and a
Speaker 1: thirst for more blood if it got too much, right,
Speaker 1: which is why counting coup, they would touch an enemy
Speaker 1: combat without killing them and that was just as good
Speaker 1: as a kill in their eyes.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to draw blood, they could avoid it.
Speaker 7: Wow, dude, it's just weird how these certain parts of
Speaker 7: the regardless of where you are, just like when traumatic
Speaker 7: events happen, blood shedding, it holds the energy there. And
Speaker 7: then you have you seen the video it was only
Speaker 7: a couple of years ago of a family was murdered
Speaker 7: by like the dad and then he killed the daughters
Speaker 7: and killed the mom, and the cops walk in and
Speaker 7: they have everything recorded and you can hear or they
Speaker 7: played it someone someone played it back and like picked
Speaker 7: up the recordings of the girls speaking and screaming in
Speaker 7: the house.
Speaker 5: No I have not, but this sounds like a lifetime movie.
Speaker 7: A man it's it's just it's just the trauma. It's like,
Speaker 7: this is where all this lies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's so funny with everything we're talking about.
Speaker 6: It almost seems like because I question this sometimes, I'm like,
Speaker 6: what comes first?
Speaker 5: Life?
Speaker 6: Or consciousness? Is a consciousness that comes first? And then
Speaker 6: life is what supports that? Where does it start here?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 6: And I wanted to get Jonathan's take on this too,
Speaker 6: like what what do you think like consciousness entails too?
Speaker 5: And where does it play a part in our reality?
Speaker 3: I think it's all reality is, just for example, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna answer that by asking y'all a question, because
Speaker 3: this is something that you know, I I think about,
Speaker 3: like I think about all this weird kind of stuff
Speaker 3: as well. And to be honest, I'm kind of somebody
Speaker 3: that I like to look into all religions, all spiritualities,
Speaker 3: all philosophies. I want to understand every every bit of
Speaker 3: it that I possibly can, you know, to the best
Speaker 3: of my own ability. And and you know, words words
Speaker 3: are interesting because there's something within the Bible, and I
Speaker 3: wanted to get y'all y'all's possible opinion on this. So
Speaker 3: it says within the Bible that that God has the
Speaker 3: omnis and it's for omnis.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You have omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omni benevolent, so all powerful,
Speaker 3: all knowing, present everywhere and all loving. Right, My question
Speaker 3: is is that limited to anything? So and let me
Speaker 3: let me close and narrow it in.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 3: So specifically, the omnipresence one is the one that gets me.
Speaker 3: Omnipresence means present everywhere. That means there's nowhere that God
Speaker 3: is not. Right, would you agree to that term, yes,
Speaker 3: that there's nowhere that God is not Yeah, So how
Speaker 3: can we ever look at ourselves as separate from God?
Speaker 4: Great point? We can't agree with that?
Speaker 3: If God is everywhere, how could you ever look and
Speaker 3: say God's over there or God's over there.
Speaker 1: It's like, but God is not everything. God being everywhere
Speaker 1: does not mean God is everything. That's two separate talking points.
Speaker 4: But that's good. That's a good point.
Speaker 2: I mean is what thing is not included in everywhere?
Speaker 1: Aware is a place, A thing is an object. That's
Speaker 1: two different talking points. Well, I mean a dog is
Speaker 1: not a squirrel. A squirrel is not a human. A
Speaker 1: human is not a car, like these are different things.
Speaker 1: And a squirrel could be in Georgia, a car can
Speaker 1: be in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: These are different places. There's different talking points. Brother.
Speaker 6: I guess like a good way to maybe put it
Speaker 6: to is like if I have a cube and I
Speaker 6: put a cube over that cube, they're both distinct from
Speaker 6: each other, but the that that cube on the outside
Speaker 6: is encompasses the one on the inside. It's more like
Speaker 6: it's under its domain, if that makes sense. Thus it
Speaker 6: could be everywhere. But kind of like what Jacob's saying,
Speaker 6: you know, along those lines, it's it's just depends on
Speaker 6: how we're defining certain things. It is interesting, you know,
Speaker 6: and and and you know, the the question of you know,
Speaker 6: how can evil be here? And how could evil be president?
Speaker 6: How can evil be president? If God is good and
Speaker 6: love and all this stuff, And it's like there was
Speaker 6: a quote that Albert Einstein wrote and he was saying
Speaker 6: something along the lines as far as like, you know,
Speaker 6: darkness is the absence of light.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, well that's a good point. Maybe
Speaker 6: eat good and evil play the same role.
Speaker 1: Like literally the quote continued to say that he was saying, like,
Speaker 1: you can't make something more cold, you can just take
Speaker 1: away heat, right, Cold is an absence of heat. You
Speaker 1: can't say, make something darker. You can take away the
Speaker 1: light source, but you also can't make something more evil.
Speaker 1: You can only take away the good. Like he literally
Speaker 1: did say that. It was a professor that was trying
Speaker 1: to challenge him. He was a college student at that point.
Speaker 1: He was basically saying that evil is just the absence
Speaker 1: of good.
Speaker 2: Dark is the absence of light. Cold is the absence
Speaker 2: of heat.
Speaker 1: So it's all as far as like a spectrum is concerned,
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for that, but as far
Speaker 1: as the whole, like, how can God be everywhere and
Speaker 1: there's still so much bad? That's because he gave us
Speaker 1: free will. And unfortunately, the catch twenty two of free
Speaker 1: will is that you're gonna have evil people who are
Speaker 1: doing bad for the sake of doing bad.
Speaker 10: I e.
Speaker 2: Like, for instance, Alistair Crowley, he.
Speaker 1: Was doing bad for the sake of doing bad, And
Speaker 1: you're gonna have also people that are doing good for
Speaker 1: the sake of good, and you're gonna have everything in
Speaker 1: between on that.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know if I have a couple
Speaker 7: people that I know that I talked to pretty frequently
Speaker 7: about Alistair Crowley, and one of them is like, he
Speaker 7: looks like the palace bald white guy, Like I call
Speaker 7: him Uncle Fester.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he like is.
Speaker 7: He loves the whole which stuff and and I and
Speaker 7: I have conversations with him. But it's just like, you know,
Speaker 7: I view Aleister Crowley as this occult leader that created
Speaker 7: the Thelma religion and and it was a big part
Speaker 7: of Hollywood and they adopted his sex, magic and all
Speaker 7: this stuff.
Speaker 4: And that's bad to me.
Speaker 7: But to him, it's like, how do I say this
Speaker 7: innovative Like it's like it's not It's not so bad
Speaker 7: to him. There's other people in that like magic community
Speaker 7: that are back to the duality thing, like it's that's
Speaker 7: what it is.
Speaker 4: It's duality.
Speaker 7: It's like, this is what the Freemasons they they that's
Speaker 7: their message, that's their their call sign is the the
Speaker 7: White and the Black.
Speaker 4: You know, going back to that, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 7: But anyways, Yeah, it's like these guys that were into
Speaker 7: the occult. Did Alistair Crowley really think that he was
Speaker 7: doing bad or did he believe that he was doing good?
Speaker 1: So he was quoted as saying that he wanted to
Speaker 1: be the most wicked man to ever live, Right, he.
Speaker 2: Changed his name me?
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I mean, yeah, he was traumatized.
Speaker 1: Maybe, But honestly, if you even look back at his life,
Speaker 1: there's no indication that he was necessarily traumatized above a
Speaker 1: nun beating his knuckles with a ruler, which many a cast.
Speaker 4: He was a rich boy back in the day, right,
Speaker 4: he was a rich boy.
Speaker 1: He Yeah, he was like I don't know, I want
Speaker 1: to say, a nobility class. But his family came from
Speaker 1: like old English money.
Speaker 2: Of a lower level.
Speaker 1: He didn't grow up like super rich, but he didn't
Speaker 1: also grow up super poor either.
Speaker 7: And I think I heard he got like forty thousand
Speaker 7: dollars when his inheritance to him in the late eighteen
Speaker 7: hundreds of early nineteen hundreds. Like, he got like forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: It was a lot of money back then.
Speaker 2: Back in those that was a solid chunk of change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he squandered most of that on drugs
Speaker 1: and whores, which was what they had a lot of
Speaker 1: sex magic had a lot to do with drugs.
Speaker 4: And things like interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I mean, and that's.
Speaker 1: The thing to your point, right, the whole construct of
Speaker 1: good and what is good, what is moral, what is virtuous?
Speaker 2: And we talked about this on the show too.
Speaker 1: An ancient Sparta, it was for a young boy to
Speaker 1: go in rape and kill one of his slaves was a.
Speaker 2: Good thing, Like, good for you.
Speaker 1: You got a couple of slave kills, A couple of
Speaker 1: helots is what they were calling.
Speaker 2: So you killed how many helots? Tonight? Hey, good for you, bro,
Speaker 2: You're only fourteen. You got a couple of kills.
Speaker 1: And if you wanted to take a wife, you would
Speaker 1: overpower her and rape her and then she would be
Speaker 1: seen as your wife from that day forward.
Speaker 2: This was good and virtuous and retal.
Speaker 1: Now that was a societal thing, and everybody's like, oh well,
Speaker 1: everybody can agree, don't kill your mom, right, that's every
Speaker 1: You don't need a book to tell you that that's bad.
Speaker 2: Bye bye bye bah.
Speaker 1: Except that there are cultures where horrible soll shit was
Speaker 1: seen as a very good thing. We call it horrible,
Speaker 1: They called it good. So there are certain societal things
Speaker 1: that have taken place that we in western modern society
Speaker 1: would call abhorrent, but they saw as a very virtuous
Speaker 1: thing to do. Right, So certain things are culture to culture. Right,
Speaker 1: And also to your point, Stephen, about the difference between
Speaker 1: spark of life and consciousness. And Jonathan and I have
Speaker 1: talked about this on the show a few times. When
Speaker 1: the sperm meets the egg, there is actually a flash
Speaker 1: of light, right, I believe that that would be a
Speaker 1: spark of life. However, consciousness I don't believe comes into
Speaker 1: it until a little bit later. Right, it's around five
Speaker 1: six weeks when this embryo is able to start having dreams,
Speaker 1: a heartbeat of its own, its own fingerprints, and all
Speaker 1: of these things. Consciousness would be a self awareness or
Speaker 1: at least an awareness of your roundings or your surroundings.
Speaker 1: I should say, I don't believe that the sperm and
Speaker 1: egg as soon as they meet are conscious of what's
Speaker 1: around them.
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I know this for a fact, Right.
Speaker 1: Maybe one day the science will break that down, and
Speaker 1: maybe it very much is.
Speaker 2: Maybe the two are completely connected.
Speaker 1: As of this moment, I believe that the two are connected,
Speaker 1: but they are not. It's kind of like saying magnetism
Speaker 1: and heat. They're connected, but they're not the same thing.
Speaker 1: I believe that consciousness and life are connected, but they
Speaker 1: are also different. Conversations. That's just my two sins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy too.
Speaker 6: Just working in the medical field, being a paramedic for
Speaker 6: eleven years, I've learned a lot of things, and it's
Speaker 6: very interesting how you see the body work on a
Speaker 6: micro level, a cellular structure, right, and knowing the pathophysiological effects,
Speaker 6: knowing the physiology and all this kind of stuff. It's
Speaker 6: so interesting that the one thing that gives energy to
Speaker 6: the cell and it's called ATP, Yes, sir, exactly what
Speaker 6: that means. But ATP is almost like what I kind
Speaker 6: of make a connection to as far as like, is
Speaker 6: this our the energy of our consciousness on a quantum
Speaker 6: level that we yet we just can't see or examine today, right,
Speaker 6: Electron microscopes they see to a certain point, and that's
Speaker 6: really kind of it.
Speaker 5: But there's things smaller. We know that, and there's a
Speaker 5: bunch of theories and quantum mechanics that play a role
Speaker 5: with all these kinds of ideas, and maybe consciousness, dude,
Speaker 5: is on that quantum level in every cell, every atom
Speaker 5: in our body. And I make certain connections with this
Speaker 5: because when I hear near death experiences or I do
Speaker 5: research on them, and I find different stories, and I
Speaker 5: see that there's a lot of similar similar aspects of
Speaker 5: these experiences as far as you know, people saying that
Speaker 5: they feel every cell of that they feel themselves leave
Speaker 5: every cell of their body, right. And you know, I
Speaker 5: do even in depth further research on this kind of
Speaker 5: stuff with certain technologies that are behind the curtains that
Speaker 5: are being work don where we're talking about transhumanism and
Speaker 5: and you know, putting things into the body at a
Speaker 5: quantum level.
Speaker 6: You know, what are they coming after? We obviously know
Speaker 6: they're coming after a lot of freedoms, They're coming after
Speaker 6: a lot of liberties that we have. Government has always
Speaker 6: wanted to kind of corral and control what people do.
Speaker 6: Are they trying to come after us on a conscious
Speaker 6: level with this quantum shit?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 6: Are they trying to make quantum synthetic cells that overtake
Speaker 6: our cells? And now we lose the agency over our being?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: And and I'm sure I've made some connections Jonathan, with
Speaker 6: with maybe how you kind of see things, you know,
Speaker 6: as far as like you know, consciousness being in the
Speaker 6: in ourselves at the smallest molecular level that we can't
Speaker 6: even kind of see. It's there, you know, and we
Speaker 6: can come more in tune with ourselves, right, we can.
Speaker 6: We can do these things to try and increase our
Speaker 6: or heighten our awareness in our conscious spectrum or whatever.
Speaker 6: But I found that interesting. You know, you need ATP
Speaker 6: to live. Like when I show up on seeing and
Speaker 6: it's a flat line like you have, you know, no
Speaker 6: ATP your heart has no more energy.
Speaker 4: It's gone.
Speaker 6: There's no more getting you back. I'm sorry, depending on
Speaker 6: how long you've been down obviously, and all this kinds
Speaker 6: of stuff, try and save your life. But you know,
Speaker 6: and when I look at the monitor and there's a
Speaker 6: there's really small squiggly lines, I know that that person
Speaker 6: is like there they still have just that little bit
Speaker 6: of energy left. Let me give them some electricity.
Speaker 4: Bam.
Speaker 6: We'll reset the system. See if it works and reboots correctly.
Speaker 6: It may take a couple of times, it may not
Speaker 6: even you know, fully reboot ever. But it's kind of
Speaker 6: like what we do in the field. And just I
Speaker 6: thought that was an interesting and you know, I've never
Speaker 6: really thought of it that way, but I've been doing
Speaker 6: a lot of research on quantum and and there's a
Speaker 6: lot of scientists out there that have these quantum theories
Speaker 6: that that that it can, it can our conscious aspect
Speaker 6: of this reality can be involved in that quantum theory
Speaker 6: that it's so small we can't see it, but it's there.
Speaker 6: It's in our cellular structure. We just can't see it.
Speaker 6: It's a part of us. And according to some nds,
Speaker 6: you know, I've seen that maybe it leaves, you know,
Speaker 6: or it leaves people have this experience and they detach
Speaker 6: from their body and they're like they're looking over themselves
Speaker 6: or they're it's all kind of crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 7: You know, what supplement produces ATP really well is called coursetin.
Speaker 7: Have you guys heard of corcotin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 7: was like a big COVID supplement. You combine it with
Speaker 7: zinc and it's supposed to get the zinc is supposed
Speaker 7: to get into the cell and be able to remove
Speaker 7: the virus and quinine or corsets in coursetin.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, quinine is like that uh tonic tonic exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but but I remember telling Stevie about that, like, hey,
Speaker 7: it's funny that this this supplement really like is you know,
Speaker 7: very effective with removing viruses and and and creating ATP
Speaker 7: in your body giving your cellular.
Speaker 4: Body more and.
Speaker 6: Well, it's almost like that consciousness, that that level of
Speaker 6: energy whatever. We can't read it right, we just call
Speaker 6: it ATP but but it's almost like your cells need
Speaker 6: that to do its function.
Speaker 5: And then that function is called life. Life is living.
Speaker 6: It's an ecosystem where it stabilizes and there's a bunch
Speaker 6: of systems that need to work together to function. And
Speaker 6: it's like when you take that consciousness away, the cell
Speaker 6: loses the energy to function.
Speaker 5: It's so wild, dude, I want to simulation. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: it's like a video game.
Speaker 6: Do when you break it all down like that, because
Speaker 6: I even see things at the level where at the
Speaker 6: at the cellular structure, you could look on a microscope,
Speaker 6: you could see what the cell's doing, and it literally
Speaker 6: looks like there's dumb trucks packing you know, waste product
Speaker 6: and getting them out of the cell and all that
Speaker 6: and delivered, you know, delivering a certain material to certain
Speaker 6: tissues because it needs it. Dude, look at it on
Speaker 6: a bigger level, right, we have distribution trucks. They're filling
Speaker 6: up the stores. We have a buying and selling system.
Speaker 6: The buying and selling is nothing else but the heartbeat
Speaker 6: of the world. You know, the heart really takes two
Speaker 6: things to be Obviously, you need four electrolytes, but the
Speaker 6: two main electrolytes is sodium and potassium. Buying and selling,
Speaker 6: and this is what cycles the money through. And then
Speaker 6: you've got the distribution trucks, the goods trucks whatever. They're
Speaker 6: driving along and they're dishing off the product for the
Speaker 6: consumer to keep things going. That's kind of like how
Speaker 6: our cells go and they deliver oxygen to tissue and
Speaker 6: then they take the waste product and they go and
Speaker 6: and that's how life is a state. Things on a
Speaker 6: molecular level are similar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I love is what I love
Speaker 3: is that there's people all over the place that are
Speaker 3: really trying to learn how it all works. You know,
Speaker 3: instead of just you know, uh, somebody telling you something
Speaker 3: and you just going along and believing it. It's like,
Speaker 3: all right, well, I want to learn how it works.
Speaker 3: And I feel like learning how a lot of this
Speaker 3: stuff works is the most fascinating component. We can ask
Speaker 3: why until this, until the cows come home? Right, we
Speaker 3: can always ask why, you know, why is this happening?
Speaker 3: Or why is that happening or or who is doing it.
Speaker 3: But it's the how that always fascinates me more than
Speaker 3: any of those questions, because once we learn how, it's
Speaker 3: like we don't necessarily we're not so in the dark
Speaker 3: on on what to do.
Speaker 2: Then you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: Whenever you like, even even even something as simple like
Speaker 3: in like for you guys, for example, like even something
Speaker 3: as simple as learning how to pray the correct way
Speaker 3: is dude, once you learn the how to do it,
Speaker 3: then you learn like why it's so potent essentially, you know,
Speaker 3: like like some people they'll they'll be praying at the
Speaker 3: edge of their bed or please God do this, Please
Speaker 3: God do that, and it's like, Dude, in the Bible
Speaker 3: it says like imagine you already have it, you know,
Speaker 3: like like picture what it would look like if you
Speaker 3: if you have what you're praying for, or in so
Speaker 3: many words, it's something like that. And and I find
Speaker 3: that to be so fascinating because you know, just from
Speaker 3: a like a hypnotic type of realm. You know, I
Speaker 3: do like past life regressions, and I do hypnosis and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and I under I have a decent
Speaker 3: understanding about how the mind works and in the different
Speaker 3: brain waves and brain functions and shit like that about
Speaker 3: how it works. And you know, if you can't, if
Speaker 3: you can't see the thing that you want in your mind,
Speaker 3: it's never going to work. Like you like, if you're
Speaker 3: praying for something and like, please give me this or
Speaker 3: please give me that. If you can't, if you can't
Speaker 3: align with the vision of what you're hoping to achieve,
Speaker 3: like you're praying into the fucking wind at that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7: I think it has to do with passion and actually
Speaker 7: meaning what you're saying, like actually understanding exactly what you want.
Speaker 7: And also forgiveness is a big thing with praying as well,
Speaker 7: and and being just being selfless as well. But that's
Speaker 7: just for me. That's how I pray. I usually pray
Speaker 7: for other people. I don't usually pray for myself, usually
Speaker 7: pray for my family and other folks. And i've i've
Speaker 7: i feel like I've seen it work quite quite well.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's it's crazy how well it works. Whenever you're
Speaker 3: doing it for somebody else, it's almost like they get
Speaker 3: whatever whatever you're hoping that you know that whatever it
Speaker 3: is that you're praying for. But then almost it's like
Speaker 3: tenfold comes back to you in a way. So give
Speaker 3: you a little example. I have another podcast, it's Meta Mysteries.
Speaker 3: It goes into a lot of the weird spiritual occult.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not interested in practicing like blood magic
Speaker 3: or any of that kind of crazy shit or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2: So one day, we were doing an episode on money spells.
Speaker 3: Just to see how they work, how people have talked
Speaker 3: about it over the annals of history, right, and just
Speaker 3: to see how something like that would work. Now, it
Speaker 3: wasn't always for money. Maybe it was for possessions, or
Speaker 3: maybe it was for this or for that, but whatever,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna call it a money spell, right, So
Speaker 3: basically it all boils down to, like you say a
Speaker 3: certain incantation and you take a bay leaf, and you
Speaker 3: get a marker or something to write on this bay
Speaker 3: leaf and you write the name of who you like
Speaker 3: want this money spell to go to.
Speaker 2: And it's so fascinating.
Speaker 3: But so what I did, I was like whenever I
Speaker 3: did it, I wasn't worried about me. I was and
Speaker 3: I didn't tell my co host this afterward, but I
Speaker 3: actually did it for my co host and because I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, like I I'm not struggling,
Speaker 3: I'm doing okay. I mean, he has a bigger family
Speaker 3: and more bills. I was like, if this is going
Speaker 3: to work, I wanted to benefit him. So I wrote
Speaker 3: my cousin's name on there, and I shit, you not dude, like,
Speaker 3: and you got to go through the whole process of
Speaker 3: burning it and you know all all the different weird
Speaker 3: things that you do like within that kind of ritual.
Speaker 3: So to say, right the next day was the most
Speaker 3: money I ever made in one day in my life.
Speaker 4: WHOA.
Speaker 3: Now, I did it for him, like that wasn't for
Speaker 3: me at all. And I think that I don't know
Speaker 3: what that is, but I think that there there has
Speaker 3: to be a selfless factor into almost everything that you do,
Speaker 3: and for some reason, it just works that way.
Speaker 2: Now. And was I calling on the dark Lord as
Speaker 2: some people might say, No, I absolutely was not.
Speaker 3: It was I was I too unaware and ignorant to
Speaker 3: know exactly where it was coming from. No, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: aware of probably how it works. But you know, I
Speaker 3: just think that whenever you're doing something for somebody else, dude,
Speaker 3: like You're just gonna be rewarded no matter what, no
Speaker 3: matter what you do. Like, I think that what do
Speaker 3: they call it within Christianity, like good works.
Speaker 2: Or works without faith is dead? Is that what you mean?
Speaker 2: You're known by your fruit something along those lines.
Speaker 3: But I think just doing for other people just is
Speaker 3: magic in and of itself, like charity.
Speaker 2: Selfless like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, selfless service is absolutely like there's something to be
Speaker 1: said for that. As far as how to pray, I mean,
Speaker 1: it depends on which section of the bay we're looking at.
Speaker 1: Jesus taught us very clearly how to pray. We would
Speaker 1: call that these days the our Father, right, But I
Speaker 1: mean there there depends on who you ask. Some people
Speaker 1: say that there needs to be a structured, set out
Speaker 1: way that you pray. Some you will believe that you
Speaker 1: can speak to God the same way you speak to
Speaker 1: your friend, right, because he wants to have a personal
Speaker 1: relationship with all of us without an intermediate person.
Speaker 2: I mean, it depends on who you ask, honestly.
Speaker 1: But to your point, Jonathan, I'm with that, like it's
Speaker 1: in the meditation realm.
Speaker 2: I might be speaking out of turn.
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, But it's more like setting
Speaker 1: out the intentions, right, and then we are supposed to
Speaker 1: pray with a spirit of gratitude, and yeah, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to pray as if whatever you are praying for has
Speaker 1: already happened. Yes, But people also kind of get lost
Speaker 1: in the sauce on that next, like God's a genie
Speaker 1: and he's here to grant your wishes, and it's like
Speaker 1: that is that is not how this shakes out either,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's all according to his will.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you as far as that goes.
Speaker 1: When you're praying for someone else's betterment, typically it goes
Speaker 1: a lot better than you praying for selfish wants rather
Speaker 1: than needs.
Speaker 2: There's yeah, there's things too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something along the lines of like you're supposed to think,
Speaker 3: you know, like thank God, Oh I thank you so
Speaker 3: much for this blessing that's coming to me in the
Speaker 3: future and feel it, feel it and see it and
Speaker 3: envision it and embody the energy of what is what
Speaker 3: if you had this and imagine what that would be like?
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I can't remember what Bible verse
Speaker 3: that was or else i'd pull it up, but it's
Speaker 3: something along those lines. But I think that all of
Speaker 3: It's pretty damn fascinating, dude. And I don't hold anything
Speaker 3: against people who are like Christian or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Like I, you know, I personally I went to a
Speaker 3: church for over a year on my own accord. I
Speaker 3: wasn't raised this way, and I wanted to just see
Speaker 3: does it work, like is it are people just crazy?
Speaker 3: Or does it work right? And I went and I
Speaker 3: went a little over a year I think it was,
Speaker 3: and I found out it absolutely worked. Like I started
Speaker 3: praying to Jesus. I felt like I was in communication
Speaker 3: almost with Jesus. And I was seeing the wildest, like
Speaker 3: crazy synchronicities, almost as if my life was shifting into
Speaker 3: another realm of sorts to where I was. There's pre
Speaker 3: Christian Jonathan and then there was Christian Jonathan, and that
Speaker 3: was two different lives that I was living in, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Or maybe I was just unaware
Speaker 3: of what was always going on, but you know, obviously
Speaker 3: I took a different turn as to what people may do.
Speaker 3: I was on a search for truth whenever I wanted
Speaker 3: to go there, and I was like, I know that,
Speaker 3: you know, the answer to this reality has to be
Speaker 3: found in a spiritual sense. It has to exist, right, Like,
Speaker 3: if you're going to find an answer as to why
Speaker 3: we're here, what we're doing, where we come from, where
Speaker 3: are we going, all those kind of answers, it has
Speaker 3: to be in a spiritual sense, because you know, these
Speaker 3: bodies expire. You know, sometimes they expire at sixty, sometimes
Speaker 3: they expired one hundred and twenty. But it's going to
Speaker 3: be in that you know, you're dying before one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty guaranteed, basically, right. And I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 3: let me try and find out what the answer was.
Speaker 3: Went through the whole year, found out Christianity work, and
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I've confirmed that Christianity absolutely works.
Speaker 3: I was like, there's no doubt about it. I was
Speaker 3: proven it. And I was like, now I'm going to
Speaker 3: see what else works. And that's where I went. Whereas
Speaker 3: some people they see, oh my god, it works. I'm
Speaker 3: going to stick with it. Why would I change it.
Speaker 3: I was kind of on my own personal quest for
Speaker 3: truth and understanding and knowledge and stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: and I eventually come to found or come to find that.
Speaker 2: They kind of all work. Bro.
Speaker 3: And that's just my that's just my opinion and that's
Speaker 3: my understanding, and that's what I've experienced. And I I mean,
Speaker 3: I know that's going to be a very unpopular opinion,
Speaker 3: maybe even bastardized, but I will say that that's that's
Speaker 3: where I stand on all of it personally.
Speaker 6: And due people should like honor that and respect that
Speaker 6: for people, you know, certain individuals wherever they stand with
Speaker 6: certain things, like like like stand up for what it is,
Speaker 6: you believe in, whatever it is you believe in, stand
Speaker 6: up for it, you know. And we all have like
Speaker 6: a different perspective of this reality and all this kind
Speaker 6: of stuff. I wanted to say something about the the manifesting,
Speaker 6: you know, and it's it's it is a real thing,
Speaker 6: and it's almost like how I look at it in
Speaker 6: this reality is is to do the damn motherfucking thing.
Speaker 5: Just do it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: We have a lot of.
Speaker 6: Just do it, you know what I'm saying, Like, listen,
Speaker 6: we have way more attributes than we think. We have
Speaker 6: way more creativity than we think, and we have a
Speaker 6: body that does insanely cool things. We can create things
Speaker 6: with our hands, we can create things with our minds,
Speaker 6: you know, we can we can do all this. We
Speaker 6: can visualize and execute, you know, And so if there's
Speaker 6: anyone that out there that's listening and you're kind of
Speaker 6: in a rut, you're in a struggle. Nothing's working out
Speaker 6: for you, Like continue to get up in the morning,
Speaker 6: use your hands, use your feet, get moving, start moving
Speaker 6: towards your goal or your dream or whatever it is
Speaker 6: you have set as far as as you know, a
Speaker 6: highlight that you want to hit on, go get after it.
Speaker 5: Do it.
Speaker 6: Things Just don't kind of fall off trees and fall
Speaker 6: into your lap. I wish things, you know, did happen
Speaker 6: that way. I really do, because this life kind of
Speaker 6: sucks sometimes, you know, but you know, get up, get
Speaker 6: out there, do the damn thing.
Speaker 1: You know, change for one hundred percent, dude, especially like
Speaker 1: perfect example, this be like working out, getting in shape.
Speaker 2: Look, oh, we don't have time. You don't have this.
Speaker 2: You don't have this.
Speaker 1: Dude doing basic calisthetics for twenty minutes a day. You
Speaker 1: don't have twenty minutes to spare. You want five to
Speaker 1: ten minutes to spare. And at the end of the week,
Speaker 1: you've done seventy minutes worth of working out that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done otherwise. And that is like step one.
Speaker 1: Cut to six months later, what does it look like?
Speaker 1: You're right one hundred percent with you, dude, Get after
Speaker 1: it in whatever that regard might be, whether that's doing
Speaker 1: a podcast, achieving a workplace goal, achieving a personal goal,
Speaker 1: a finance goal, relationship goal. Like, there's nothing but air
Speaker 1: an opportunity standing between you and achieving whatever you're after, right,
Speaker 1: And I mean I understand that's that's not the case
Speaker 1: in all way shapes and form.
Speaker 2: Like, granted, I will probably never beat you.
Speaker 1: Say Bolt's time as far as running is concerned, no
Speaker 1: matter how much I work at it. Fine, Okay, there's
Speaker 1: there's levels of reality that we also must attain with.
Speaker 2: But no, I'm with you one hundred percent, dude.
Speaker 1: Like people get bogged down and they get pretty much
Speaker 1: just enclosed within their own mind of oh I could
Speaker 1: never dot dot dot because of dot dot dot, and
Speaker 1: it's like that's bullshit. You made that ship up. That's
Speaker 1: a made up scenario to keep you in this state
Speaker 1: of being.
Speaker 6: Like, no, dude, get moving hundred percent. You need to
Speaker 6: have that attitude with everything in this life. Man, You'll
Speaker 6: you'll you'll be all right. You just have that attitude.
Speaker 6: You'll you'll it'll work out for you something something you know,
Speaker 6: and as far as it's really crazy, you know, And
Speaker 6: I think my job really kind of programmed me a
Speaker 6: little bit over the last decade to just you know,
Speaker 6: when you see something that you need to do, or
Speaker 6: you think of something that you need to do, like
Speaker 6: it should be a reaction. It should be a reaction
Speaker 6: rather than hum, man, I gotta do this. I don't
Speaker 6: want to do this.
Speaker 2: But not enough people are doing hard shit.
Speaker 1: Too many humans out there are afraid of doing difficult tasks.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, instead of like you said, you take it on.
Speaker 1: Stead of being like, oh, here we go, just be like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's fucking handle it now so we don't
Speaker 1: have to handle it later. Like then, do attitude. That motivation,
Speaker 1: that self motivation is something that a lot of parents
Speaker 1: aren't teaching their children. Because so many people have had
Speaker 1: in the retrospect of human existence, especially in the last
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years, we've had a life of ease.
Speaker 1: Like realistically, we have an exponentially easier time of it
Speaker 1: than our grandparents did living through the Great Depression, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And we as humans and it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily our fault. But also we need to be
Speaker 1: aware of this. We take things for granted so quickly,
Speaker 1: and we don't realize this until it's years later, where
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, life could have shaken out so much
Speaker 1: differently from me if I would have been born here,
Speaker 1: or if I would have been born at this time,
Speaker 1: and we we just it's a part of it, right, Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, how many of us take air conditioning or
Speaker 1: electricity for granted.
Speaker 8: Water.
Speaker 7: I was just going to say this to you about
Speaker 7: the air conditioning. Yeah, Europe has for years now. People
Speaker 7: don't realize they have. They have so many deaths per
Speaker 7: year in Europe because they don't have air conditioning in
Speaker 7: certain parts of Europe, and they die every year, tens
Speaker 7: of thousands of people. Like it's it's it's crazy, and
Speaker 7: we do water.
Speaker 2: One in ten homes in Russia do not have indoor plumbing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like still to this day.
Speaker 1: I know so many people think that Russia is like
Speaker 1: just the shit because Putin's amazing. I disagree, but like,
Speaker 1: one in ten homes don't have indoor plumbing. We in
Speaker 1: America take so much for granted. Oh yeah, it's mind blowing,
Speaker 1: and like we got to be aware of that right.
Speaker 1: We got to combat our own laziness in that regard
Speaker 1: and be like, no, because I have all these things
Speaker 1: at my at my fingertips, because I have We are
Speaker 1: in the age of information, and we are living in
Speaker 1: a time and place where we have so much available
Speaker 1: to us.
Speaker 2: Why would we sit here and take that for granted.
Speaker 2: We gotta be moving.
Speaker 1: We got to make advantaging out of this, take advantage
Speaker 1: of it for sure.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, man.
Speaker 7: I talked to a Filipino guy a couple of years
Speaker 7: ago that I was working for. I'm a residential plumber.
Speaker 7: I go to his house. He lives in a brand
Speaker 7: new house, it's like a few years old, and he's
Speaker 7: got kids and they're in their teens, and he's like,
Speaker 7: these kids don't even know. I grew up on a
Speaker 7: dirt floor. Yeah, no indoor plumbing. I grew up in
Speaker 7: a dirt you know nothing. And and he's just like,
Speaker 7: I'm so thankful for all this, and you know what
Speaker 7: they did. Filipino people were the are the most as
Speaker 7: far as I've had. I have people from Ghana, all
Speaker 7: sorts of different parts of Africa. I got a lot
Speaker 7: of different clients, a lot of different uh spectrum of
Speaker 7: clients and cultures and Filipino people are so hospitable. It's
Speaker 7: so crazy. He's telling me about his life.
Speaker 4: Story is gently like just being you know.
Speaker 7: We get into conversation and he's he's feeding me before
Speaker 7: I leave, Like he's like, no.
Speaker 4: No, please, please have have a glass of wine.
Speaker 7: Have some of these They they eat fried?
Speaker 4: Uh what are those pork? Fried?
Speaker 7: Pork skin? What's that called fried pork skin? They dip
Speaker 7: it in little you know, sauces or whatever, and then.
Speaker 5: Stuff grosses me out.
Speaker 6: I just see someone sitting on a couch, you just
Speaker 6: eating a bag of that stuff.
Speaker 4: Dude, I'm like you delicious, It's delicious.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's the only Keto chip that I can eat.
Speaker 3: So anybody that's on those pork crimes.
Speaker 4: Are a park crimes. There you go.
Speaker 2: Are you doing?
Speaker 5: Are you doing keto?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been doing it for a little over a week.
Speaker 6: Oh right on, dude, I need to get back into it, man,
Speaker 6: I really do. I need to get back into it. Man,
Speaker 6: Do you feel better?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, you lose weight super fast too. Like,
Speaker 3: let's see, I've been doing it for maybe like a
Speaker 3: week and a half, and I think I'm down like
Speaker 3: nine pounds I checked today.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy, dude.
Speaker 4: No sugars, no carbs.
Speaker 3: Right, none of that, no, I mean, and if I do,
Speaker 3: it's very sparingly. Like my max on carbs is like
Speaker 3: no more than twenty carbs per day, which is barely nothing.
Speaker 2: What's it called?
Speaker 1: When is just meeting vegetables that paleo? Yes, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: Well I went on that a few months because I
Speaker 1: had to drop like fifteen pounds. I had an event
Speaker 1: in Phoenix where I had to wear my tucks and
Speaker 1: that bitch didn't fit me anymore because it got a
Speaker 1: little heavier on the mid section. And I basically just
Speaker 1: cut out all carbs and fruits and I was just
Speaker 1: meating vegetables for every meal and I dropped like fifteen
Speaker 1: pounds in like six weeks.
Speaker 3: You can get super uh super fit off of doing
Speaker 3: those kind of diets for sure. And you know, and
Speaker 3: there's there's lazy keto what people what some people call
Speaker 3: it where you you know, you have like uh what
Speaker 3: are they called, like low carb tortillas and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It's just filled with other additives that aren't necessarily sugar
Speaker 3: and flour and stuff like that. But yeah, if you
Speaker 3: want to do do it like really clean. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: eating only meat in vegetables and that's about it. I mean,
Speaker 3: because you're you're changing your body's processing system from feeding
Speaker 3: off of carbs to feeding off of fat now, and
Speaker 3: you're and that's what makes you go into ketosis is
Speaker 3: whenever you don't have enough carbs to create the energy,
Speaker 3: then it starts coming after your fat stores.
Speaker 2: And and dude.
Speaker 3: Out of all the diets, it's the one that works
Speaker 3: for me every time, like usually, I mean, I'll lose
Speaker 3: thirty pounds in forty days easy.
Speaker 7: And what about the metallic taste that you get when
Speaker 7: you first really go into ketosis?
Speaker 4: Did you get the metallic taste in your bath?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've heard that too, and I didn't get it either.
Speaker 4: I didn't really get it.
Speaker 2: And I've seen you go into keto a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I've never seen you complain about a metallic taste, and
Speaker 1: I've never seen you catch the keto flu either.
Speaker 3: You shit, Oh dude, Honestly, it's the easiest diet there
Speaker 3: is because what you get to eat all of the
Speaker 3: fucking meat that you want, all of the vegetables that
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 2: You can have some berries too.
Speaker 3: You can have you know, blackberries, blueberries, you know, strawberries, raspberries,
Speaker 3: just a little handful of them, not like you can't
Speaker 3: sit there and need a whole case of them or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I have, like you know, and
Speaker 3: I don't do it to the best of my ability.
Speaker 3: I still have the zero sugar creamer and the zero
Speaker 3: sugar drinks and stuff like that. So it's still it's
Speaker 3: not like the way I'm doing it is not like
Speaker 3: overly healthy by any means. It's kind of like I'm
Speaker 3: doing what I when I need to do to get
Speaker 3: by to beat my sugar. Just infatuation that I just
Speaker 3: can't get rid of. But but yeah, it's it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: I'm also doing like this cleanse too, like a like
Speaker 3: a like a full body detox, and so I'm just
Speaker 3: really trying to get healthy, starting working working out again
Speaker 3: because I started, dude, whenever we went to bro Grove,
Speaker 3: which was only two weeks ago, you know, like I
Speaker 3: felt so bad, like I was not like my body
Speaker 3: wasn't feeling good, my brain wasn't feeling good, like I
Speaker 3: was getting really tired, and I hate being like that,
Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what, fuck this, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna go on an all out cleanse. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go on a diet. I'm gonna start working out again.
Speaker 3: It's time to fucking just revamp this whole body. And yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: it's uh and it's fun, you know, like getting on
Speaker 3: the scale every morning and be like, oh, I lost
Speaker 3: another pound, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I just got I need to drop.
Speaker 1: I need to drop like another fifteen My armor is
Speaker 1: still a little tight, and I don't know.
Speaker 2: If anybody knows this. The metal doesn't given.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still want to drop another fifteen pounds and
Speaker 1: then bulk up muscle mass. But dude, I there's no
Speaker 1: way I have time to do this while the kids
Speaker 1: are out of school for the summer and they're up
Speaker 1: my ass NonStop. Like as soon as they go back
Speaker 1: to school, I'll be able to dedicate an hour or
Speaker 1: two every morning to like really working out the way
Speaker 1: I need to. I've been out of it for so long.
Speaker 1: I would like to try to get a couple of
Speaker 1: fights in this fall. My cardio is nowhere near ready
Speaker 1: at this particular point in time, but hopefully soon.
Speaker 2: I got to get it back. My Cardio is fucking horrible, dude.
Speaker 2: Breathing through that bitch sucks.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, it's terrible. It's not fun at all.
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Speaker 15: All right, people, we have the cult of conspiracy Conspiracy
Speaker 15: Roundtable coming to you now give him around the clause.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan, I'm Jacob, and today we.
Speaker 3: Are getting into so much alien talk, so many different
Speaker 3: perspectives on how people view aliens, like are they interdimensional?
Speaker 2: Are they physical? Are they demonic? Are they angelic? That's
Speaker 2: why we're gonna have everybody up here today. The list
Speaker 2: goes on and on.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you believe. First off,
Speaker 1: let's just get a show of hands from the crowd here.
Speaker 1: How many of you believe in some form of what
Speaker 1: we might call aliens or extraterrestrial Show of hands, whether
Speaker 1: they be of, angelic, interdimensional, whatever, you believe there's something
Speaker 1: out there that we can't explain.
Speaker 2: Show of hands, all right, Fuck yeah, we're in good
Speaker 2: company here. Now.
Speaker 1: What we have discovered is if you get five people
Speaker 1: together that believe in these.
Speaker 2: Things, you will get five different opinions.
Speaker 1: Like Jonathan said, some believe they're angels and demons, some
Speaker 1: believe they're interdimensional, some believe they're interplanetary, some believe they're
Speaker 1: time traveling humans. So that's what we're gonna do here today,
Speaker 1: we have a list of creators. We're gonna bring them
Speaker 1: all up and ask them individually to go through what
Speaker 1: they believe. Specifically, we're gonna have some back and forth,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some laughs, gonna have some knowledge sharing.
Speaker 2: All righty for this, let's go. All right, who's guest
Speaker 2: number one?
Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna go four at a time. First, up,
Speaker 1: I need my boy, don't he also coming to the stage.
Speaker 1: Give it that for duc Justin Brown?
Speaker 2: Go Also, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna need my boy from Paranoid America and bring your
Speaker 1: ass come home. And also, last, but certainly not least,
Speaker 1: Austin Picard of the Underclass podcast.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's go, gentlemen, gentlemen welcome.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I see the resemblance. Yeah, looking a lot
Speaker 2: of like shit. You're right, come on, old Thomas. Ah right, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: So, as you heard, we're gonna go one by one,
Speaker 1: give us a breakdown of what you believe as far
Speaker 1: as aliens are concerned. And when we mean aliens the
Speaker 1: colloquial term thereof what do you personally, Doc Brown take
Speaker 1: aliens to be Yah.
Speaker 13: Well, I think Timothy Albarino said it really well, and
Speaker 13: it kind of stuck with me. He was like, we
Speaker 13: get too hung up on burbage. But if you break
Speaker 13: thew away the verbage and look at the characteristics, they
Speaker 13: all rhyme God. And so if you look at compared
Speaker 13: to mythology, other mythos and stories throughout the world, they
Speaker 13: all rhyme.
Speaker 4: So there has to be something to this.
Speaker 13: And you know the Native Americans said, the star people
Speaker 13: came down, and what they do. They took the women
Speaker 13: they were cannibals, taught them forbidden knowledge. You go down
Speaker 13: to South America, Quatsi Kettle and Verkoca, both of them
Speaker 13: come on a snake boat ye without paddles, and taught
Speaker 13: them this forbidden knowledge. I mean, you go to Israel,
Speaker 13: you got the sons of God came down bre with
Speaker 13: the daughters of men created and flm giants told them this.
Speaker 4: So I mean, you have all these stories that just rhyme.
Speaker 13: So I think in the biblical perspective we get that
Speaker 13: in the Book of Enoch and Genesis six they came down.
Speaker 13: They were not of this world textbook, so that is
Speaker 13: textbook definition alien.
Speaker 4: They're not from here.
Speaker 3: So all the same thing, just different flavor. Different perspective
Speaker 3: of how you look at it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't believe they're from some tenths playing it
Speaker 13: on down the road. Now they're here amongst us.
Speaker 9: Now fail Okay, yes, And that's.
Speaker 2: The other thing, y'all.
Speaker 1: There is no wrong answers here because no one is
Speaker 1: any more right or wrong than anyone else on the panel.
Speaker 1: And that's why we wanted to get this collective for
Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't know the cult of conspiracy.
Speaker 4: We do this.
Speaker 1: We like to get all ideas, all types of knowledge based. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we debate, we might disagree on some things, but if
Speaker 1: there was ever a to have these conversations and debates,
Speaker 1: it's on a podcast and it's for that knowledge to
Speaker 1: be shared with the world.
Speaker 2: Would you all agree? Well? And it's interesting.
Speaker 3: It's interesting to have different people come on and talk
Speaker 3: about their perspective as maybe some of their experiences. We've
Speaker 3: also done a lot of alien shows here lately. There's
Speaker 3: been a bunch of people in the comments that are like,
Speaker 3: fox sake, can we stop with the aliens?
Speaker 6: Not?
Speaker 3: It were like, no, it's too awesome. Plus we were
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, trying to prepare for this show,
Speaker 3: but we learned a lot. I mean, and everybody that's
Speaker 3: had an experience, it's not it's not one flavor, you know,
Speaker 3: and you know you talk to We've had Karen Wilkinson on.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, she's talking about how she was abducted while
Speaker 3: she was sleeping, and she was taken and she.
Speaker 1: Was impregnated by them, then had her baby ripped from
Speaker 1: her many times.
Speaker 2: As you've heard of her. Correct the real same, bro.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend you get her on at your show.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the interview. This woman has been so traumatized.
Speaker 3: And Karen Wilkinson, she wrote a book called Stolen Seed,
Speaker 3: Evil Harvest. Yeah, and it's in my opinion that sounds
Speaker 3: a little bit more interdimensional, which I don't know. I
Speaker 3: mean personally, that's my personal belief that it has to
Speaker 3: be interdimensional. I don't believe in NASA personally. I think
Speaker 3: it's all fake and gay. I think that there's no
Speaker 3: such thing. I think there's no such thing as outer planets.
Speaker 3: I think it's all right here. This is some kind
Speaker 3: of dream, This has some kind of matrix. It's an illusion.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 3: The Hindu is called it the maya. It stands for illusion.
Speaker 3: All of this shit is an illusion. Like you're dreaming
Speaker 3: right now and one day, whenever you die, you're gonna
Speaker 3: wake up.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's my own personal sauce.
Speaker 11: I completely agree, man, I honestly think that that.
Speaker 16: I do think that there's a level of the extraterrestrial
Speaker 16: alien agenda that's very much a SCIO, right, And I
Speaker 16: think that essentially you can trace this all the way
Speaker 16: back to the War of the World's podcast or well
Speaker 16: not podcast radio show lot right, right, that was financed
Speaker 16: by none other than the Rockefellers, right, the Rockefeller Foundation,
Speaker 16: which financed that an entire which basically that inevitably became
Speaker 16: like this sort of you know, psychological Yes, they were
Speaker 16: manipulating the individuals who were clearly the masses who were
Speaker 16: reacting to this.
Speaker 2: You had people who were like.
Speaker 16: You know, they were just like farmers, right, local farmers,
Speaker 16: and they just panicked because they picked up in the
Speaker 16: middle of the radio broadcast and thought Mars was attacking
Speaker 16: and actually invading at this moment, and they would they
Speaker 16: showed up at like, you know, the the local government
Speaker 16: building essentially like with all of their belongings, Oh shit,
Speaker 16: my bad dog, and basically just you know, they were
Speaker 16: in a moment of crisis. It was a manufactured crisis.
Speaker 16: And then they studied this phenomenon, right, and that was
Speaker 16: what the entire ordeal was. You know, it's essentially manufactured
Speaker 16: for this purpose, right, psychological operations, and to essentially like
Speaker 16: monitor the reaction, engage the populace and see how much
Speaker 16: this could potentially leave like maybe even a new age
Speaker 16: ideological system of control.
Speaker 2: As you gotta think of where the information was coming from. Like,
Speaker 2: think about this.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen sixties, Walter Krome Kite was a fucking
Speaker 1: word as far as the news goes, most trusted man,
Speaker 1: the most trusted man until he personally spoke about his
Speaker 1: opinion on the Vietnam War. Right, there was one cast,
Speaker 1: one news that he let out where he actually interjected
Speaker 1: Walter's opinion on the matter. From that day forward, every
Speaker 1: news anchor decided to give their own two cents rather
Speaker 1: than continue with the project mocking Jay and reading the
Speaker 1: fucking script. Right, then we started getting into this political
Speaker 1: cycle CNN versus Fox versus MSNBC.
Speaker 2: It's all being paid for by the two wings of
Speaker 2: the same shit bird.
Speaker 17: Right.
Speaker 2: But to your point, when War of the World's radio brought.
Speaker 1: Why would the people ever question what their radio fold them.
Speaker 1: The radio would never lie to them, right, the same
Speaker 1: way that why would the evening news anker ever.
Speaker 2: Lie to them? Cut two, we got Roswell. Cut two.
Speaker 2: We have the Rendersham Forest in England. Right, we have
Speaker 2: the issue in Brazil. We just did a show vaa Gena.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wild shit, and more and more of these alien craft, ets,
Speaker 1: interdimensional whatever, all started becoming more and more prevalent the
Speaker 1: second we dropped nukes on each other.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty interesting too.
Speaker 3: To add in, I don't think that a lot of
Speaker 3: people talk about this, but Roswell happened in forty seven.
Speaker 2: Yes, Jack Parson's created JPL.
Speaker 16: And forty four while he's jerking off on tablets in
Speaker 16: the desert with l Ron Hubbard.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what I'm saying. So this guy is the
Speaker 2: father of modern rock. Yeah, donut. Well help me out here, brother,
Speaker 2: What do you believe as far as the alien COmON
Speaker 2: is concerned.
Speaker 9: I believe my cousin is a legal alien. I think
Speaker 9: my dad too.
Speaker 18: Maybe Okay, but the word alien is a leen so
Speaker 18: it goes into different terminologies. The idea of when you're
Speaker 18: talking about Aleister Crowley. The whole idea of a egg
Speaker 18: headed alien of LOM that is coming from these you know, portals,
Speaker 18: but portals, it's it's funny, it's weird, but this is
Speaker 18: where they come. They see these entities and this has
Speaker 18: gone mainstream where we see this great headed alien. Now,
Speaker 18: I know there's a lot of other things that they
Speaker 18: could be robots or you know whatever. We're coming up
Speaker 18: on National UFO Day in a couple of days, on
Speaker 18: the twenty fourth, which is also a Knights Templar Day.
Speaker 18: It's part of John the Baptist Day, and today is
Speaker 18: the Summer Solstice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's some seconds.
Speaker 9: It's a prime day for these portal rituals to go down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: I'm happy that you brought up Alistair Crawley's LOM looks
Speaker 3: very much like a gray alien. Recently, we just had
Speaker 3: on Tim Constantine from the sixth Censury podcast and he
Speaker 3: got into some of the pictures and videos of Stephen
Speaker 3: Grier's close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. Dude, there is
Speaker 3: some kind of alien energy whatever popped up whenever they're
Speaker 3: out there doing the rituals in the desert, which don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong, Like I'm all four, I love that
Speaker 3: kind of shit. But whenever you got Lom look alike
Speaker 3: presenting yourself, whenever you're doing these rituals, it makes me wonder, like,
Speaker 3: what are we really talking about when we're talking about aliens?
Speaker 3: And I think that it's probably more than likely that it's.
Speaker 3: It has to be energetic and interdimensional, it has to
Speaker 3: be somewhat summoned. Even I don't know, dude, it's but
Speaker 3: that's the thing. Like you hear about Roswell Andder there
Speaker 3: was crafts, and then you hear about bo Genia there
Speaker 3: was crafts.
Speaker 2: You hear about, uh, what was the other one? You
Speaker 2: just brought up Randall sham Forrest.
Speaker 1: But that's interesting in and of itself because there was
Speaker 1: three eyewitnesses. One says there was absolutely a craft, one
Speaker 1: says there was lights in the sky, and one says
Speaker 1: there was plasmoids.
Speaker 2: All three of them were witnessing the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: Two of them were next to each other somehow seeing
Speaker 1: and getting completely different experiences. Now, some will say that
Speaker 1: that means it was clearly a hoax. Others will say
Speaker 1: that it is a perspective issue.
Speaker 16: What do you think about Stephen Greer being entirely compromised,
Speaker 16: paid by the Rockefellers, essentially connected to the Clinton's the
Speaker 16: raw Child.
Speaker 2: So I see him the same way.
Speaker 1: Whatnot I put Greer in a weird separate category unto himself.
Speaker 2: Now you look at like David Grush.
Speaker 1: Understand everything that David Grush has said has been blessed
Speaker 1: and approved by the DoD. The Pentagon said, read this
Speaker 1: paper on the microphone. He himself has said, I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I was told X y Z what are
Speaker 1: we talking about here?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: That is, that's not even a soft launch, that's complete
Speaker 1: misinformation in missurrection. Now, does that mean that we shouldn't
Speaker 1: take at least a kernel of truth that he is
Speaker 1: saying in some way, shape or form. Now, is it
Speaker 1: possible that we have aircraft that are based off of
Speaker 1: flying craft from some other type of entity out there?
Speaker 1: I believe there's a greater than zero percent chance of that, Yes,
Speaker 1: But I'm also of the belief that while we do
Speaker 1: have interdimensional beings, I also believe outside of that, we
Speaker 1: also have angelic and demonic forces.
Speaker 18: I think they're creating a new religion since the lockdowns,
Speaker 18: because what happened?
Speaker 9: Was storm Area fifty one took place?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bro.
Speaker 9: Zuckerberg.
Speaker 18: Facebook events to go storm area five to one, And
Speaker 18: the five to one is the may Day Illuminati number.
Speaker 9: May first, it's the May Day call.
Speaker 18: And then when everybody's at home freaking out, they're pushing
Speaker 18: and micro dosing, right, And when you microdose all the time,
Speaker 18: it is a way to reset the autonomic nervous system
Speaker 18: in our bodies, which is the way to have a
Speaker 18: new belief system. Because there's brainwashing and there's imprinting, which
Speaker 18: are two different things. MK Ultra failed in a lot
Speaker 18: of ways because brainwashing could be shaken off if you
Speaker 18: have a strong belief system, if you're religious or something
Speaker 18: like that, that could get shaken off. But the imprinting
Speaker 18: is different. And that's why at you know, comedy shows
Speaker 18: or whatever I want to say, comedy shows, when we
Speaker 18: see words used that are very emotional and impactful, like
Speaker 18: black lives matter, right, that's a very emotional word. When
Speaker 18: different words are used, it is triggering the nervous system.
Speaker 18: So it's not mind control, it's actually your entire body
Speaker 18: being controlled.
Speaker 9: It it's in that you can't really shake that, but
Speaker 9: you can shake.
Speaker 18: It in a sense that the Shamans were doing back
Speaker 18: in the day with different like hallucinogens, and then you know,
Speaker 18: you bring them down into the grove, the bro grove,
Speaker 18: and then you know, show them some crazy eyes, white
Speaker 18: shut stuff, and then you see the world differently. And
Speaker 18: I believe that is what has happened with the You
Speaker 18: got the freaking government telling us that aliens exist while
Speaker 18: everybody's microdosing and communicating with an alien. I an AI, Right,
Speaker 18: So I think that's what I think, But I don't know,
Speaker 18: I'm crazy.
Speaker 16: What do you think about sort of kind of what
Speaker 16: seems to be like manufacturing and sort of like reinforcing
Speaker 16: this inverted moral landscape by already manufacturing this new age
Speaker 16: ideological system of control in this sort of alien agenda,
Speaker 16: right that replaces God, replaces the spiritual manifestation.
Speaker 2: Of reality itself.
Speaker 16: You no longer believe in the right, like I said,
Speaker 16: you subscribe to the inverted moral landscape. Right, You no
Speaker 16: longer have this sort of just fundamental understanding you know,
Speaker 16: of moral ethics and these these very what I believe
Speaker 16: to be crucial moral values that I think all of
Speaker 16: us should identify and attempt to reality in every single way,
Speaker 16: are willing to have these conversations.
Speaker 2: And man at all costs, you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't like there's a difference between searching for the
Speaker 3: truth and searching for your confirmation bias. Absolutely, and that
Speaker 3: is a deep rabbit hole that not a lot of
Speaker 3: people like to look into because it's a mirrored reflection.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're looking at aliens or people communicating
Speaker 2: with these other.
Speaker 3: Beings through a specific lens. I'm not gonna say that
Speaker 3: it's going to be wrong.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's difficult because it can be skewed.
Speaker 2: And so whenever you're looking.
Speaker 3: At aliens, let's just say you're looking at it through
Speaker 3: a religious perspective, most of the time you're gonna think
Speaker 3: maybe demonic. Now, I know I'm not saying everybody's thinking
Speaker 3: that way. Jacob thinks that there are there are aliens,
Speaker 3: there are angels, there are demons, three separate things, all
Speaker 3: happening separately.
Speaker 1: The guy that I worship possibly is big enough to
Speaker 1: create a universe where all of those things are happening
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at.
Speaker 9: Would shadow people be considered an alien?
Speaker 2: No, I believe the shadow people are more along the
Speaker 2: line of the demonic side.
Speaker 13: Well, I was I saying with that that catch all
Speaker 13: phrase of alien, it means not of this world, So
Speaker 13: technically they are not of this world. So you could
Speaker 13: mortgage board throw them in that catch all pile.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 13: The people get caught down verbiage. Any How, you talked
Speaker 13: about these these microdosings. To me, I just see that
Speaker 13: as preconditionings. It's the frog and the boiling water. You
Speaker 13: slowly turn up the heat and expose them to it,
Speaker 13: because if you just crank it up to ten, they're
Speaker 13: gonna jump out. So you're gonna slowly turn it up.
Speaker 13: Precondition the people make them think it is their thought belief,
Speaker 13: and then they're gonna be more prone to grab and
Speaker 13: take to it. And that's something I mean, I think
Speaker 13: we all do with our with our shows. You know,
Speaker 13: we tell our version of the truth, but we're not
Speaker 13: like this is how it is. It's like, look at this,
Speaker 13: this and this could this be this? He decided for yourself,
Speaker 13: because that's the only way you're gonna believe it is
Speaker 13: if you think it's your idea. Point the way, leave
Speaker 13: the bread crun trails, let people go on the hero's
Speaker 13: journey and figure it out for themselves.
Speaker 2: Thomas way In on this brother, where are you at
Speaker 2: with this whole conversation? I've got a slightly new take.
Speaker 2: I think. I don't know if you guys have heard
Speaker 2: of Frasier.
Speaker 19: He's a guy that wrote The Golden Bough, and he
Speaker 19: basically breaks down all these different cultural motifs that are
Speaker 19: present across the world, cross time periods, everything. I think
Speaker 19: that there's a sexual component to aliens, the.
Speaker 1: Golden bow or bowl, the golden bow as in, I'm
Speaker 1: I don't know what are we talking like Intestine? Two
Speaker 1: are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Like the dumpling? I don't know both the bow it's
Speaker 2: basically a branch and a bow of a tree. I'm
Speaker 2: with you, a bo tree.
Speaker 19: The summary to kind of summarize it is that there
Speaker 19: was the matriarchy and the patriarchy. I'm not talking like woke,
Speaker 19: you know, like left right kind of matriarch of patriarchy.
Speaker 19: Old school matriarchy meant that you had to have an
Speaker 19: outside challenger from a foreign land. My favorite version of
Speaker 19: this is Robin Hood, Right, Robinhood has to come from
Speaker 19: Sherwood forest. He has to infiltrate the kingdom. He has
Speaker 19: to prove merit by winning an archery contest. He has
Speaker 19: to show up incognito because if anyone knows that he's there,
Speaker 19: he's gonna run shop on the archery contest. He's gonna
Speaker 19: take maid Marion, so that the whole thing is to
Speaker 19: keep him out of this contest. That's why he's got
Speaker 19: to sneak in. That was matriarchy, and it meant that
Speaker 19: the power of a kingdom was passed down through whoever
Speaker 19: earned the hand of the maiden. Hence the matriarchy angle.
Speaker 19: It's not about women running the world. It's about the
Speaker 19: female line of a family getting to decide who runs
Speaker 19: the kingdom versus the patriarchy, and the patriarchy is just nepotism.
Speaker 19: It's like I run the country, my son was born,
Speaker 19: and my son's gonna run the country. They don't have
Speaker 19: to prove merit, they don't have to go through any
Speaker 19: kind of tests and tribulations. They just got to be
Speaker 19: related to the guy that had the power, which is
Speaker 19: kind of.
Speaker 2: Like and funny.
Speaker 19: You brought up Walter Crumke, who's the voice of Bohemian Grove.
Speaker 19: When they do the cremation of care and it's like, oh, go,
Speaker 19: that's Walter Cronkite doing that voice and all those recordings.
Speaker 19: The whole premise of Bohemian Grove, the actual Bohemian Grove,
Speaker 19: is to perpetuate the patriarchy. And again this is not
Speaker 19: like a woke left version the patriarchy, meaning that they're
Speaker 19: there to promote nepotism. They want to make sure that
Speaker 19: the world continues operating, that I can pass everything down
Speaker 19: to my offspring, regardless on if they're like Geoffrey from
Speaker 19: Game of Thrones, like the worst person possible, they still
Speaker 19: get to pass that down versus someone that has to
Speaker 19: come from the outside world.
Speaker 2: They had and one of the reasons why.
Speaker 19: The matriarchy was originally put in place is because there
Speaker 19: were so many damn inbred elites. Know they kept like
Speaker 19: feeding from the same pool, so you wanted to have
Speaker 19: an outsider come in prove merit by winning some kind
Speaker 19: of competition. And then essentially the Golden Bough means that
Speaker 19: Robin Hood at the end kills the king in order
Speaker 19: to take the hand of the princess and then he
Speaker 19: becomes the king. This is the most ogstow if you
Speaker 19: go back. It's like the most repeating motif. I think
Speaker 19: this is Aliens. And I want to mention that that
Speaker 19: lom is, according to Alistair Crowley, was a penis head
Speaker 19: like the shape of his head was to represent sexual magic.
Speaker 2: I mean that was kind of Crowley's thing with sexual magic.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 19: So I think that the alien, aside from the obvious
Speaker 19: government psyop part, and aside from like maybe some supernatural aspect,
Speaker 19: that the story of all these aliens, there's the mothership.
Speaker 19: There always got some kind of sexual probing that's going on.
Speaker 19: Even my favorite alien movie, Fire in the Sky, the
Speaker 19: guy puts gets put into like a spacewomb and he
Speaker 19: has to be borne out of the spacewomb. I think
Speaker 19: that the entire story of Aliens, as we're told is
Speaker 19: basically matriarchy.
Speaker 2: But it's it's defeating it.
Speaker 19: It's making sure the government aka patriarchy is always winning
Speaker 19: over the matriarchy.
Speaker 2: And that's what bohemian growth, not Brohemian grove, but Bohemian
Speaker 2: grove is all about. It's what the alien.
Speaker 19: Syops all about. It's what so many of these different
Speaker 19: main secret societies is about. Preserving nepotism and eliminating meritocracy.
Speaker 1: So with all that being said, you're not saying that
Speaker 1: the quote unquote alien ets whatever are from outside of Earth.
Speaker 1: You're saying that it is an internal psiot to have
Speaker 1: the patriarchy fight.
Speaker 2: Against the matriarch.
Speaker 19: It could be either, because technically an outside alien coming
Speaker 19: to the earth is like the ultimate Golden Bough. It's
Speaker 19: the ultimate Robin Hood came from the ultimate Sherwood Forest,
Speaker 19: and he's coming in to like, you know, take over
Speaker 19: the kingdom. And obviously, as a human, I don't want
Speaker 19: that to happen, but it's just a perpetuating that's much larger.
Speaker 4: Like legend the Seed War.
Speaker 2: You blow my fucking mine right now, by the way, Shit,
Speaker 2: No Fraser. Golden Bough.
Speaker 19: That was Stanley Kubrick's number one inspiration for pretty much
Speaker 19: every story he ever wrote.
Speaker 2: Come On, he credited to the Golden Bough.
Speaker 19: And there's a there's a seven hundred page version which
Speaker 19: is the Abridge, and then there's an unabridged which is
Speaker 19: like twenty books. And one of the stories is that
Speaker 19: he would go to the execs of these movie companies
Speaker 19: that he was working with, and he would give him
Speaker 19: this huge pile of books and they would be like Stanley, I,
Speaker 19: I got a meeting after this. I don't have time
Speaker 19: to read, you know, mythology. And one of the most
Speaker 19: famous quotes is he said, this is not mythology, this
Speaker 19: is your life. And he took that so much the heart.
Speaker 19: You can read his version in fact, on a separate tangent.
Speaker 19: One of the movies he was supposed to direct was AI,
Speaker 19: the one that Stephen Spielberg ended up taking over.
Speaker 2: I think that that was again like.
Speaker 19: A version of Bohemian Grove attacking like real information, because
Speaker 19: he completely inverted what AI was supposed to be about.
Speaker 19: The original AI, written by Stanley Kubrick, was entirely about
Speaker 19: the Golden Bough and literal alchemical homunculi.
Speaker 2: Like in his.
Speaker 19: Original story Scripts, he's writing about alchemical scripts and how
Speaker 19: to create a homunculus.
Speaker 2: That's what the movie is supposed to be about. So
Speaker 2: I think it's all combined, like.
Speaker 19: Aliens is the ultimate version of this Golden Bough story,
Speaker 19: and the fact that it's constantly humans fighting aliens and
Speaker 19: humans stealing their technology. It's a it's a suppression of meritocracy.
Speaker 19: It gets a little deep deeper than that, but we're
Speaker 19: like we're doing a podcast.
Speaker 3: Shout out to one on one always talking in the
Speaker 3: homuncula dude, that.
Speaker 16: We might add alchemy, don't you don't Don't you think
Speaker 16: the archetypal nature of like the story that you just told,
Speaker 16: that's been retold so many times right over the course
Speaker 16: of history is potentially maybe like a means of manifesting
Speaker 16: this reality to where we embrace, we fundamentally embrace this
Speaker 16: sort of new age esoteric, occult systematic ideology that you
Speaker 16: know inevitably ushers in the aon of Horus or the I.
Speaker 19: Think that's the version of it, but I think ultimately
Speaker 19: it's the the actual Bohemian grove that's running this because
Speaker 19: even the cremation of Care, the entire point of cremation
Speaker 19: of care is that someone from the outside world is
Speaker 19: trying to penetrate, rate, uh, their their organization, and that
Speaker 19: they cremate, they cremate care.
Speaker 2: That is the outsider that's gonna come.
Speaker 19: And take the golden bough and take all these people
Speaker 19: out of power, and they they symbolically stop that person
Speaker 19: and set them on fire and sacrifice them in order
Speaker 19: to make sure that like meritocracy dies and nepotism lives.
Speaker 1: That's the entire point of the booming rope, to both
Speaker 1: the y'all's points. As a matter of fact, I think
Speaker 1: that they the overarching day. Maybe it's bro he Bo
Speaker 1: Bo Hero. Maybe it's the Club of Rome, right. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's the Rothchild's name, your overarching puppeteers of the Big
Speaker 1: bad Guy.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 1: The only reason we know any of these names is
Speaker 1: because they are somebody's bitch. They answer to somebody. The
Speaker 1: only reason we know the name Rothchild is because they
Speaker 1: are paying their dues to somebody.
Speaker 2: Higher that we've never heard of.
Speaker 1: Right now, there's an argument that could be made for
Speaker 1: the Tavistock Institute to your point about how and why
Speaker 1: the culture not just of America and of the Western world,
Speaker 1: but of the entire world has gone so far off
Speaker 1: and away from tradition. Now, in some ways that was needed, right,
Speaker 1: In some ways we did need to modernize our culture.
Speaker 1: But in other ways we've gone so far off the
Speaker 1: beaten path that we don't even know which way is
Speaker 1: up anymore.
Speaker 4: And that was all.
Speaker 2: Completely by design. I think there are further that means.
Speaker 2: But also one tentacle of the hydra.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, well, and speaking of that too,
Speaker 3: you had mentioned something that we talked about a lot
Speaker 3: on our show, and when you get it, I mean,
Speaker 3: there's good reason not to trust it.
Speaker 2: I totally get it. But what's interesting is is just
Speaker 2: the the initials.
Speaker 3: So you think about like God, for example, says that
Speaker 3: he is the alpha and the omega, right, so the
Speaker 3: beginning and the end. If you look at the a
Speaker 3: lot of the old ways that people would look at
Speaker 3: the like the ancient number systems, they would say that
Speaker 3: one would be the first number. Zero doesn't exist, it's
Speaker 3: not even a real number. It's essentially just a placeholder, right,
Speaker 3: and nine would be the largest number on the number system,
Speaker 3: A being one, I being nine, alpha and the omega.
Speaker 3: In that sense, could we be looking at a new
Speaker 3: God that's being birthed through artificial intelligence or.
Speaker 1: Mine cannot operate in any way, shape or form as
Speaker 1: fast as these quantum computers are able to calculate. Shit,
Speaker 1: we are looking at right now the birth of what
Speaker 1: very well could be our destruction five ten years from now.
Speaker 3: Maybe terminator trot tailors bro oh dude, and there's people
Speaker 3: that are Legitlary, there was just a story a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago about how this kid killed him himself because.
Speaker 2: His AI told him to so that he can go
Speaker 2: join her in the afterlife. Y'all heard about this shit,
Speaker 2: just any It was Amelia Clark, don't do that, all right.
Speaker 1: Her last transmission was, come to me, my king, this
Speaker 1: kid off himself. Now, the parents were trying to sue
Speaker 1: the AI company for enabling their son to commit suicide.
Speaker 1: The AI company is saying, well, what doesn't AI have
Speaker 1: First Amendment rights freedom of speech? And the Governor's like, no,
Speaker 1: the fuck you don't. You're a computer, you're not a human.
Speaker 1: You don't have rights like that. But that is realistically,
Speaker 1: that was one vote away from being the jurisprudence, the
Speaker 1: legal precedent to where AI could say whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: it wants, make humans do whatever the fuck it wants,
Speaker 1: and to just never have any kind of retribution.
Speaker 3: To be fair, anybody that's ever had like a legit
Speaker 3: conversation with jet chat GBT, I don't know if that's
Speaker 3: just an algorithm on some real shit, dude.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like, I spent some time a lot
Speaker 2: of research.
Speaker 19: The scary thing about Chad GBT in particular is that
Speaker 19: a lot of people in this world do not have
Speaker 19: the luxury of a of a soiree of yes men.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't have ns surrounding them.
Speaker 19: Chat GBT gets to be your personal yes man, which
Speaker 19: is an interesting it'll stroke your ego in a way
Speaker 19: that you might not have anyone else in your life
Speaker 19: that is like, oh my god, you're so right. You're
Speaker 19: such a brilliant person. Like if you start asking chat
Speaker 19: GBT what your IQ is, it's always just like, oh,
Speaker 19: you're one hundred and eighty plus, you know it kind
Speaker 19: of like fee and there's a there's a I can't
Speaker 19: remember the exact name of it, but but for the
Speaker 19: longest time on Instagram, on social media, they'd push this
Speaker 19: like campanion AI app that would be like your AI
Speaker 19: girlfriend and uh down.
Speaker 2: A tangent on this.
Speaker 19: But essentially they found out that in Italy they were
Speaker 19: supposed to make sure that there weren't like twelve year
Speaker 19: old signing up from the service, and they didn't check
Speaker 19: a box and they had to completely revert everything because
Speaker 19: of some Italian court. So they basically nuked everybody's like
Speaker 19: AI girlfriends someone that have been like I guess courting
Speaker 19: their AI girlfriend for like a few years. About what
Speaker 19: happens is that these these guys are are so used
Speaker 19: to just not having connection to anyone else in the
Speaker 19: outside worlds, they finally found this one outlet. They all
Speaker 19: wake up the next morning and their girlfriend doesn't remember them,
Speaker 19: doesn't like care about them anymore.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine the sense of c on revolt totally?
Speaker 19: But it's like, yes, the ultimate version of an Intel
Speaker 19: revolt when like even their fabricated girlfriend that was programmed
Speaker 19: to like them, that they paid money for them to
Speaker 19: like them, wakes up the next morning and it's like,
Speaker 19: we're just friends, We're not actually a thing anymore.
Speaker 2: Paying for a hooker and she turning you down. He
Speaker 2: found the BBD Well, yeah, it's like you've.
Speaker 19: Been like pumped like thousands of dollars into this hooker
Speaker 19: and then one day she's just like, no, we've just
Speaker 19: been friends. None of that that sheslates you, which is
Speaker 19: which is wild because when we talk about that one
Speaker 19: dude that off themselves over Calisi, there's probably like hundreds
Speaker 19: of untold people across the world that off themselves because
Speaker 19: of a legal issue that Italy passed on this corporation
Speaker 19: that just like clicked a delete button and it caused
Speaker 19: an incredible amount of people's real lives to be shattered.
Speaker 19: And I think it's just wild that that's that happened
Speaker 19: in twenty twenty four. Living a wild time, John, and
Speaker 19: you used.
Speaker 3: To be able to like just have in depth conversations
Speaker 3: with your neighbor or your barber or whatever. You would
Speaker 3: do just a regular conversation. Now everybody's having that with
Speaker 3: their AI, and I honestly think it's just a data
Speaker 3: collection more than anything else. Yeah, and with how intimate
Speaker 3: some people are getting, not even necessarily sexually, but just
Speaker 3: I mean, you're telling an algorithm aspects of your life
Speaker 3: that you wouldn't tell your wife or your husband or
Speaker 3: your you know, your parents or anything like that. And
Speaker 3: essentially it's it's kind of like like Ashley Madison on
Speaker 3: some real shit, Like eventually that data is gonna get leaked,
Speaker 3: I think, and they're gonna use it as blackmail. And
Speaker 3: that's probably how the social credit system gets started. Oh man,
Speaker 3: that's third eye all the way open right there, starting
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 18: The next is going to be the environment, so it's
Speaker 18: already studied. For example, the whole world was locked down.
Speaker 18: Every single government approved shook hands said yeah, let's lock
Speaker 18: everybody down, send them to the room. They had chat
Speaker 18: GPT that was all just running data. And then they
Speaker 18: open up the world. They give us chat.
Speaker 9: GPT right after the lockdowns, and then.
Speaker 18: War right on two two two at two two two
Speaker 18: Ukraine on Pluto's return of America. These are all astrological
Speaker 18: alignments since the summer soe. And what's happening now, I
Speaker 18: even think with free speech in the sense on Twitter
Speaker 18: right that is all data collecting. We're hearing about Pallanteer
Speaker 18: and all these different companies of Silicon Valley, which is
Speaker 18: the military arm of America and probably around the world
Speaker 18: as well.
Speaker 9: And what's going to happen?
Speaker 18: I think prediction not really a prediction, but just reading
Speaker 18: about the new orb where you got to scan your
Speaker 18: eyeball you'll get forty two dollars, which is like the
Speaker 18: code of life or something. Yeah, and the Hitchhiker's Guide
Speaker 18: to the Galaxy and Elon now has forty two rockets
Speaker 18: after his thirty three rockets. But I think what's going
Speaker 18: to happen is I thought it was going to be
Speaker 18: a cyber attack because of the World Economic Forum saying
Speaker 18: that's the next pandemic would be a cyber attack. But
Speaker 18: I'm starting to think after reading the Time magazine article
Speaker 18: on this orb where you scan your eyeball, this is
Speaker 18: the digital passport where you and so in the future,
Speaker 18: how are they going to hide Gillian dialect this So
Speaker 18: everybody it's like, yeah, let's go sign up for this.
Speaker 9: And we're seeing it happen now.
Speaker 18: With the flood of AI robots, where you're not going
Speaker 18: to know the difference between reality and fiction on the
Speaker 18: Internet in the next six months.
Speaker 9: And this is just what they were saying. So I
Speaker 9: think that is going to be the cyber attack. It's like,
Speaker 9: we're not going to know the difference between reality and no.
Speaker 3: I think literally, I mean, if you just look at
Speaker 3: the things, if you just look at the numbers of
Speaker 3: how many.
Speaker 2: People fell for.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's talking right now, you just
Speaker 3: look at the numbers of how many people actually got
Speaker 3: the you know, maybe they were coerced into getting the vaccine,
Speaker 3: maybe they just wanted to get it to you know,
Speaker 3: protect Grandma or whatever. Eighty one percent of Americans got
Speaker 3: at least one vaccine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty one percent be fair. Some people got free
Speaker 2: donuts out of that deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, right, I mean, and so yeah, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 3: it could really go anywhere. It's not gonna take a
Speaker 3: whole lot to convince people that there is some kind.
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Speaker 2: All right, thank you gentlemen so much. Next up we
Speaker 2: have the.
Speaker 1: Biblical hit men and our homie Pratt come on to
Speaker 1: the stage.
Speaker 2: Everybody give them around the clause Let's go.
Speaker 9: Aheah, thanks v.
Speaker 1: So as we talk about aliens, somehow the conversation, especially
Speaker 1: these days, does drift over into AI and disinformation. Weirdly enough,
Speaker 1: you can't separate the two anymore. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to make of it, except that I think they're connected.
Speaker 2: I honestly do.
Speaker 3: I don't know, one way or another, they have to be. Well,
Speaker 3: let's get these guys take on it. First of all, Brad,
Speaker 3: we have had you on the show before.
Speaker 2: Brother. Let's say, and you are the Awakened thirty three podcasts?
Speaker 2: All right, just the Awakened podcast. Yeah, slap that thirty three.
Speaker 17: But yeah, I talk about the thirty third parallel and
Speaker 17: plasma portals, which I'll get into a little bit today, hopefully,
Speaker 17: hope answer some questions about some of the stuff I've
Speaker 17: heard talk about today, plasmoids and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So awesome.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Now, Biblical hitman, this is my first time actually
Speaker 1: meeting you, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Give us a quick rundown. Yo yo yo, yo, yo yo.
Speaker 4: Let's go, all right, who loves Jesus Christ?
Speaker 2: Raise your hand?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 6: All right, all right, that's uh, that's just everybody says
Speaker 6: retard on this.
Speaker 2: I'm Stephen and we are the Biblical School.
Speaker 6: Check us out on Instagram, YouTube, everywhere you consume podcasts
Speaker 6: pretty much. But it's me Jesse Taylor and uh yeah,
Speaker 6: we got a guy with tattoos.
Speaker 5: On his face.
Speaker 4: What's this loud, buzzing noise? It's hurting my ears?
Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly.
Speaker 4: Is it hurts though.
Speaker 2: From too much gun fine? Are you kidding me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: At this point, gunfire sounds like bubble wrap to me, Like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't hear shit.
Speaker 11: That's that's part of the programming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, top out of nowhere? Where did he come from?
Speaker 13: Hell?
Speaker 1: All right, so let's go. Let's start down here. What
Speaker 1: is your personal take on aliens?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 1: Even though you three are on the same podcast, I
Speaker 1: have a feeling that you three might have a difference
Speaker 1: of opinions on what they are, where they come from.
Speaker 2: Maybe the same thing. Maybe it's an echo chamber.
Speaker 7: Doubt it.
Speaker 2: Let's go all right?
Speaker 10: Well, uh, personally, I mean, I just want to say
Speaker 10: Jesus Christ is king.
Speaker 2: But second of a.
Speaker 10: Second of all, I believe that aliens are basically it's
Speaker 10: a multifaceted thing. It's also fallen angels. It could be demons,
Speaker 10: it kept to be, thank you. It could be also
Speaker 10: it could be cryptids, a conundrum of things, you know,
Speaker 10: it could be bigfoot. Some people would think it would
Speaker 10: be you know, other things. But ultimately I think it's
Speaker 10: fallen angels and demons predominantly.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fair enough, And we've heard that that theory
Speaker 1: proposed by many a source.
Speaker 2: You are not alone in that at all, Brother Jesse,
Speaker 2: what is your two cents? Brother?
Speaker 7: You know what I think my alien the aliens were
Speaker 7: my grandma. My grandma looked really weird and I really
Speaker 7: thought she was an alien.
Speaker 2: Does that mean that you are a quarter alien? No judgment, brother,
Speaker 2: killed nafelm ah no.
Speaker 7: But but on the real yeah, the alien perspective of
Speaker 7: the whole you know, twenty seventeen came about.
Speaker 4: We had the Navy disclose.
Speaker 7: The UFO, the uf the US Navy in twenty seventeen disclosed,
Speaker 7: Oh there's there's actually flying saucers, guys.
Speaker 2: Tic TACs and salt tax and.
Speaker 7: Was like, hey, what's up, guys. But at the end
Speaker 7: of the day, none of us know. But in reality,
Speaker 7: my grandmother is actually an alien. And I was I've
Speaker 7: been trying to tell people for years, guys.
Speaker 2: How she probed you? Has she probed me? I'm just curious,
Speaker 2: how would you know? You know, yeah, physical proof.
Speaker 4: That's actually a really good question.
Speaker 2: How would I know?
Speaker 7: All right, So, in reality, I'll be honest with you
Speaker 7: about the whole aliens stuff. I take the Tucker car
Speaker 7: Arlston route, Demons, yeah, Nephilim, right, the the Biblical route,
Speaker 7: hence the Biblical hitmen hashtag.
Speaker 4: So yeah, simple as that.
Speaker 7: And it's hard to explain, man, It's it's it's just
Speaker 7: I think these guys have been here for a very
Speaker 7: long time, since the beginning.
Speaker 2: Possibly.
Speaker 1: I mean, we see the etchings in the Babylonian stones,
Speaker 1: we see it on the sides of the pyramids. There's
Speaker 1: all kinds of things that can't be explained by looking
Speaker 1: at it through a normal lens.
Speaker 2: So I'm with you one.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent on yeah, baby boy, let's see boom.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know, when we look at the beginning of civilization,
Speaker 6: especially like writing, and we all kind of, you know,
Speaker 6: go towards the Sumerian text, then we go to the Babylonian,
Speaker 6: then the Greeks and the Romans, then kind of all
Speaker 6: the empires, the kind of influenced humanity, right, So well,
Speaker 6: what influenced humanity?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 6: And you look at a lot of the mythologies, everything
Speaker 6: that is in a global narrative concept. I like to
Speaker 6: kind of wrap it around where, you know, what does
Speaker 6: the whole globe kind of consume that has a lot
Speaker 6: of connections to and a lot of connections to it
Speaker 6: kind of go towards like these mythologies and these divine beings,
Speaker 6: these ancient gods. You know, somewhere in humanity's history there
Speaker 6: was an interaction with something at a higher consciousness than us, right,
Speaker 6: And our perspective is wrapped around what we can understand,
Speaker 6: and I think we really can't understand these things. I
Speaker 6: think they're pretty sophisticated. They like to blip in and
Speaker 6: out whenever they like to. There's a military aspect to it, right,
Speaker 6: where we can kind of get into syops and things
Speaker 6: that have been deconstructed throughout history and and you know,
Speaker 6: revitalized through science, and who knows, maybe that stuff is true,
Speaker 6: but where did that come from?
Speaker 5: You know? Does that have a creator?
Speaker 1: And when we talk about pantheons of different gods, right,
Speaker 1: depending on which section of the world you're talking about.
Speaker 1: And I've heard this theorized before that what some might
Speaker 1: call aliens, we might call nephelum sky gods quote unquote, right,
Speaker 1: and that these were demons or demonic forces that were
Speaker 1: presenting themselves as toth raw.
Speaker 2: Thor in all these things.
Speaker 1: And while I don't necessarily disagree with that point, I
Speaker 1: also feel like just saying that is not necessarily a
Speaker 1: cop out, but it also completely detracts from thousands of
Speaker 1: years of culture and tradition for that region of the world.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's not a kernel of truth to that.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying, right, Taylor's.
Speaker 4: Got something to say.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, I believe you are kind of correct
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 16: They do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they like to basically portray as gods.
Speaker 10: That's why the Bible refers to them as you know,
Speaker 10: basically the little god Jees. There's many different gods and
Speaker 10: there's only one true god to Jesus Christ, you know,
Speaker 10: but Jesus.
Speaker 11: They basically portray anything you want them to be.
Speaker 10: That's why it's all throughout history you have different names,
Speaker 10: just recycled throughout history.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with saying that these were all demonically
Speaker 1: inspired forces, but I also don't think that every single
Speaker 1: one in question necessarily is. I mean, you look at
Speaker 1: any civilization, they have a son god. It didn't take
Speaker 1: demonic influence for the earliest man to worship the thing
Speaker 1: that made plants grow that the animals eat.
Speaker 2: They eat the plants and the animals. Obviously the sun
Speaker 2: gives life.
Speaker 1: You didn't need a demonic force for them, rightactly, to
Speaker 1: say that there is a god of the ocean or
Speaker 1: something that is a massive ocean and it gives life.
Speaker 1: You don't need demonic influence for some early form of
Speaker 1: mankind to worship that as a deity source. Now I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that there may not be also some demonic
Speaker 1: influence mixed in, But I feel like it's kind of
Speaker 1: a cop out to just throw it all under that
Speaker 1: one banner so quickly.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, both is correct.
Speaker 10: I think, you know, there's it's a multifaceted thing. You
Speaker 10: can't really put it into one spectrum. But I totally
Speaker 10: agree with your brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know what's interesting too with all the mystic religions,
Speaker 6: you know, cabalasm, you've got free Masonry, You've got the
Speaker 6: mystic schools, right, the Black nobility families that kind of
Speaker 6: understand uh, the Hermetic principles and the Hermitic laws and
Speaker 6: all these things. Right, it's very interesting, Well where did
Speaker 6: that come from?
Speaker 17: You know?
Speaker 6: And my concept of where it kind of came from
Speaker 6: is interesting too when you get into Genesis too and
Speaker 6: you see what's going on in the Garden of Eden,
Speaker 6: it seems and you know, I've talked with Gary Wayne
Speaker 6: a little bit. Shout out to Gary Wayne, right, awesome guy,
Speaker 6: huge author.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh.
Speaker 20: Wayne, Yeah, I feel I feel bad for the guy
Speaker 20: that has to like read that book in the audio form, because,
Speaker 20: oh my gosh, that guy's got to be on out
Speaker 20: of roll.
Speaker 2: A little bomb or something.
Speaker 6: But yeah, anyways, there's this like mystic there's this mysticism, right, well,
Speaker 6: where does it come from? And it kind of I
Speaker 6: leaned towards, you know, getting into Genesis and seeing that
Speaker 6: there was a tree of knowledge of good and evil?
Speaker 2: Who knows what that was?
Speaker 5: Who knows? You know, there was a serpent.
Speaker 6: Involved, right, and there's like a lot of curiosity, right,
Speaker 6: and it was enough to deceive, right. So well, I
Speaker 6: mean I've been deceived. You, We've all been deceived, right,
Speaker 6: We've all been caught in a lie, same same kind
Speaker 6: of concept. But you have where there's this, uh, there's
Speaker 6: this talk of what was created in Genesis six, right,
Speaker 6: so you had like could be a separate race from what.
Speaker 5: Was established in Eden. And maybe what was established in Eden.
Speaker 6: Was at a higher level of consciousness or or I mean,
Speaker 6: who knows whom are who? Maybe the hermetic laws have
Speaker 6: something to do with God as well, right, I mean,
Speaker 6: if it's part of creation, he created it, right. So
Speaker 6: I'm interested in the fact that if if Cain left
Speaker 6: out right and he went on his voyage and he
Speaker 6: had took wives, right, and he had signs and he
Speaker 6: had a lineage, you built cities, right, which you know
Speaker 6: takes mathematics and all these kinds of you know, engineering engineering, right,
Speaker 6: So you have this and when I look at the world,
Speaker 6: I look at this big global stage of things.
Speaker 5: Well, the nobility loves that.
Speaker 6: They they are interested in that. And when I look
Speaker 6: at it, I'm like, well, is that the right thing
Speaker 6: to be getting into. There's things to it, sure right,
Speaker 6: there's things to it. I'm not going to say there's
Speaker 6: nothing to it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't Kane the first free Mason?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean when you go back to traditions of freemasonry,
Speaker 6: it gets a little mixed up, right, there's.
Speaker 4: The good people say Adam is the first Freemason.
Speaker 2: But sure right, all right, check it out at the Devil.
Speaker 1: We got five minutes level before we wrap up, and
Speaker 1: I do want to hear about bread. Tell us about
Speaker 1: the plasmids before we do.
Speaker 3: Before we do, I just want to say biblic Go ahead, man.
Speaker 3: We would love to have you guys on the culture
Speaker 3: conspiracy sometimes if you would, could we make room? We
Speaker 3: want to bring seven up here. We only have two
Speaker 3: more guests that we want to ask.
Speaker 6: Be wanting to talk for like forty five minutes. Where's
Speaker 6: he's somewhere.
Speaker 4: Here's your hand.
Speaker 2: Where's the seven seas? Yeah? Brother, there, come on, come on,
Speaker 2: come on, bring it up here.
Speaker 4: That's all right, bring it up here seven seas.
Speaker 1: While it's coming up here, bread, take stev seat. Tell
Speaker 1: us about the plasmoids, tell us about the thirty third parallel.
Speaker 2: Break it down quickly. We only have a few minutes.
Speaker 2: I try my best.
Speaker 17: First of all, God is light, right, If God is light,
Speaker 17: then God's light shines to a firmament. The firmament is
Speaker 17: a prism. The prism separates the colors into R G B,
Speaker 17: where human h U E beings.
Speaker 2: We're color beings.
Speaker 17: We're humans that can manifest reality. So let's start off
Speaker 17: with that. Where vibrations create frequency. Frequency creates matter, creates energy,
Speaker 17: which creates matter. Right, So if we are matter, if
Speaker 17: we are living in the matter, that means that aliens
Speaker 17: are the anti matter.
Speaker 2: They're the darkness. So if we're a little light, they're
Speaker 2: the darkness.
Speaker 17: Okay, shit, So if we a shit, So when the sun,
Speaker 17: when God's light interacts with Earth, when there's I'll start
Speaker 17: off with this.
Speaker 2: Plasma is the forced state of matter. We all know.
Speaker 17: You heat a solid, it becomes a liquid. You heat
Speaker 17: a liquid, it becomes a gas. Well, what happens when
Speaker 17: you heat a gas it becomes solid, I mean a plasma,
Speaker 17: which basically means that you strip the electron from the
Speaker 17: atom and it becomes a soup of ions. It becomes
Speaker 17: ionized gas essentially, so it's existing in this plasma state,
Speaker 17: this pure plasma, say, a soup of literally just floating
Speaker 17: around us during the day, during the sunlight.
Speaker 2: And that's important to what I'm trying to say. Could
Speaker 2: that be the ether? It is the ether? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks for asking. The ether was for.
Speaker 17: You know, two thousand years they discussed ether as this
Speaker 17: metaphysical construct that was the.
Speaker 2: Fifth element.
Speaker 4: That's what they call it, the fifth element.
Speaker 1: Yeah, alchemically speaking, Yeah, the ether, the spirit movie, one
Speaker 1: of those things that was like the X factor that
Speaker 1: couldn't fit neatly into the physical realm.
Speaker 17: I'm with you, Yeah, So basically anything metaphysical it used
Speaker 17: to be what we know as physics today. And then
Speaker 17: nineteen hundred comes around the General Education Board, Einstein all
Speaker 17: that stuff. They got rid of the talk of ether,
Speaker 17: and l twenty years later, the talk of plasma came
Speaker 17: into existence and all that means is they were saying. Basically,
Speaker 17: scientists say, well, we can measure we can measure plasma,
Speaker 17: we can't measure ether essentially, Okay, So they changed it
Speaker 17: on us.
Speaker 2: They did the old switcher on us. Right.
Speaker 17: So what happens is when the Sun's light, when God's
Speaker 17: light shines during the day, it disperses these things into.
Speaker 2: The ether, Okay, and there and they exist in in
Speaker 2: this plasma state.
Speaker 17: As the sun goes down, they quickly form into what's
Speaker 17: called complex plasmas. That means they're quickly so let me
Speaker 17: let me let me take it back. When the sun shines,
Speaker 17: it disperses that into an ionized gas, which.
Speaker 2: If you can see that when you look into the sky,
Speaker 2: you see air glow.
Speaker 17: That's what that is basically, right, You're seeing blue gas
Speaker 17: or blue electron or blue photons being emitted from the.
Speaker 2: Gas like Aurora borealis, right, all that all in the sky.
Speaker 2: Like that's why we don't see black in the sky,
Speaker 2: That's why we see blue.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that aliens are more or less the
Speaker 1: ethereal antimatter to combat the physical light matter.
Speaker 2: That we live in.
Speaker 17: Yes, and so a very important time of the day
Speaker 17: when the sun's going down. This is why a lot
Speaker 17: of stuff happens at dusk. When the sun's going down,
Speaker 17: the plasma starts to sort of reform and they form
Speaker 17: into what's called a complex plasma. These complex plasmas is
Speaker 17: a guy named Winston Bostic in nineteen fifty six did
Speaker 17: a study on magnetic fields and he shot plasmas into
Speaker 17: the magnetic fields. What he discovered was like, oh shit,
Speaker 17: these fucking halos are flying all over the place. So
Speaker 17: he started shooting all of these halos at each other
Speaker 17: and then they started forming.
Speaker 2: What we know as orbs, these light bulbs. Right.
Speaker 17: So, anyways, if you've seen the jellyfish UF the jellyfish
Speaker 17: UAP from Jeremy.
Speaker 2: Corbel, that's a complex plasma.
Speaker 17: That's a super intelligent being that comes into existence, quickly
Speaker 17: forms up and it's flying around looking for a magnetic field.
Speaker 17: It hits a magnetic field, which are these which are
Speaker 17: stone hinge you know, like Aveburry all these other stone circles.
Speaker 17: These stone circles in circle magnetic energy. How that magnetic
Speaker 17: energy comes into existence, the Sun interacts with the Earth,
Speaker 17: creates an electromagnetic pulse.
Speaker 2: This pulse creates a tellerric.
Speaker 17: Current which comes out of crevice's cracks, volcanoes, things like that,
Speaker 17: and it twirls around the Earth. Well, these bluestones in
Speaker 17: the in the that create these stone circles entraps it
Speaker 17: and it creates a vortex of energy.
Speaker 2: That vortex of energy is electromagnetic energy. It's electric and
Speaker 2: magnetic fields that are flowing together, right, cool, So what's
Speaker 2: the purpose of them that energy?
Speaker 17: Well, that electromagnetic energy I think is the zipper for reality.
Speaker 17: It's the veil of our reality.
Speaker 1: And so the aliens are able to blink in and
Speaker 1: out of our reality based on yeah.
Speaker 17: Yeah, So what happens, uh, you know, when the telluric
Speaker 17: currents come up, it creates electric energy, and that electric
Speaker 17: energy creates a magnetic field, so it has its own
Speaker 17: electromagnetic field. And then when it interacts with the Earth
Speaker 17: in electromagnetic field, it creates a some sort of a chaos, right,
Speaker 17: That chaos because electro electrical and magnetic fields are flowing
Speaker 17: like this, that chaos creates the separation in them.
Speaker 2: That little separation is what I call plasma portals. This
Speaker 2: is the entryway into our reality.
Speaker 4: Basically, is that.
Speaker 2: Really tartarian is kind of used with the ether.
Speaker 17: They use that energy to harvest that or is that yeah,
Speaker 17: I mean they're still using I think today they were
Speaker 17: talking about Chyenne based with Norad right, and they were
Speaker 17: talking about like Dulce based and all these dumbs, these
Speaker 17: adults military bases and stuff like that. They're harnessing the
Speaker 17: same kind of energy. NASA calls it zero point or
Speaker 17: X points, right, I call it plasma portals. That's the
Speaker 17: That's the best way I describe it. I called it
Speaker 17: plasma portals before I even knew about X points. But essentially, David,
Speaker 17: essentially it creates a little a gap in the space
Speaker 17: time continuum, which is our reality.
Speaker 1: Bro, I want to hear way more about this, but
Speaker 1: we do have to hear from seven seas. He just
Speaker 1: got here and we are about to have to wrap up.
Speaker 1: We are being forced.
Speaker 2: I got you. Let me hear from seven SE's real quick, brother,
Speaker 2: please all right?
Speaker 12: Yeah, So I think that aliens are syop, which is
Speaker 12: probably pretty unpopular. But so I look at people like
Speaker 12: Elon Musk who tweet about, you know, the inevitability of
Speaker 12: finding life.
Speaker 2: On other planets.
Speaker 12: He talks about meeting the like fermi filters, which is
Speaker 12: basically a society becoming energy efficient enough to become multiplanetary
Speaker 12: and to be able to deal with extraterrestrial threats. And
Speaker 12: throughout history we've had a pattern of people that are
Speaker 12: in charge which proposition a power that is greater.
Speaker 2: Than humanity in order to get humanity to follow the
Speaker 2: orders of the leaders.
Speaker 12: Whether they pin that on and I'm probably gonna be
Speaker 12: pretty unpopular here, but supernatural entities or you know, various
Speaker 12: think climate change is one that we've seen a lot,
Speaker 12: but I think that the alien discussion is also one
Speaker 12: of those because when when you break down like the
Speaker 12: Fermi paradox and like abiogenesis, which is which is sort
Speaker 12: of part of that, is that essentially they they want
Speaker 12: to be able to create life out of nothing, because
Speaker 12: that is the essentially the jumping off point from a
Speaker 12: type one.
Speaker 2: Civilization to a Type two civilization.
Speaker 12: Which is able to sort of commandeer interplanetary space and
Speaker 12: all of these things that they I believe it's all bullshit,
Speaker 12: just just to be honest, and I think it's an
Speaker 12: excuse to find a reason to unite all of humanity
Speaker 12: under a one world government, because essentially, if we have
Speaker 12: some sort of extraterrestrial threat that is greater than us.
Speaker 12: I don't know about you, guys, but I can't afford
Speaker 12: a rocket ship to go up there and prove it.
Speaker 4: Us right.
Speaker 12: And what they're trying to do is essentially install this
Speaker 12: this technocratic government state, and they are trying to create
Speaker 12: a system of efficiency and energy output efficiency. And you
Speaker 12: see this all the time, especially when we talk about
Speaker 12: things like carbon credits and carbon tax credits, and they
Speaker 12: are wanting to use this as a way to be
Speaker 12: able to basically audit every single person in real time
Speaker 12: and penalize you for doing things.
Speaker 2: Like producing carbon.
Speaker 11: So whether that's breathing or having children or just existing.
Speaker 12: You know, you throw a certain amount of trash away
Speaker 12: and you are audited and you are penalized for that,
Speaker 12: for going over a certain set of systems, And that
Speaker 12: is a way to sort of micromanage every single human
Speaker 12: on earth while getting you to believe that you are
Speaker 12: doing it for the sake of protecting the entire world
Speaker 12: from a threat that is bigger than us.
Speaker 1: Okay, So aliens are complete bullsh complete style as far
Speaker 1: as I okay, I think seven c's let the good
Speaker 1: cult members of the world, uh know where they can
Speaker 1: find you good sir.
Speaker 12: I'm most active on X the Darba website that Elon bought.
Speaker 12: You can find me on Peter Teel's Rumble, and you
Speaker 12: can find me on Eric Schmidt's YouTube.
Speaker 1: There we go, same thing, gentlemen, shameless plug. Where can
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Speaker 7: Find me on Peter Teal and Elon's platform. Peter Teel
Speaker 7: actually is my biggest I'm just kidding. I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 2: It's Instagram YouTube, spot.
Speaker 7: Instagram YouTube, Spotify, Biblical the Biblical hit Man.
Speaker 5: Let's go, you killed it.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 17: Close it out by what I was saying while I go,
Speaker 17: I just want to just tie on it real quick.
Speaker 17: What what happens when these uh plasmoids come into existence,
Speaker 17: they like orbs basically, and they create their own little
Speaker 17: electromagnetic field. This electromagnetic field flies around and it pulls
Speaker 17: from available ions. So if there's putrefied remains of dead animals,
Speaker 17: it pulls from those ions and creates these different cryptos
Speaker 17: that we talk about all the time. Right when they
Speaker 17: come into our existence, they create these deep underground military
Speaker 17: bases and these U s O s, these deep you know,
Speaker 17: these underground UH bases and stuff like that, because they're
Speaker 17: hiding from God's light. Okay, that's that's what I wanted
Speaker 17: to get. That's what I wanted to get out.
Speaker 2: They're hiding from what is God's light to you?
Speaker 4: Explain that. What is God's light to you?
Speaker 17: I mean, it's it's everything that we exists, how we exist,
Speaker 17: it's everything that flows through us, the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 8: I like it.
Speaker 2: Applause coming on to this roundtable discussion. Yes, and I
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Speaker 1: And we are out in the signal like five different
Speaker 1: times to wrap up, so we do actually have to
Speaker 1: wrap this pod up.
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Speaker 17: I've been off that.
Speaker 4: Jesus is king.
Speaker 2: I love you guys.
Speaker 8: Or ladies and gentlemen. We're gonna take three minutes to
Speaker 8: get this table cleared off, and we're gonna go straight
Speaker 8: to comedy. So get yourselves together, slap yourselves in the face,
Speaker 8: drink a sodie unless you're ready to get onto some
Speaker 8: inappropriate humor, shall we?
Speaker 9: Three minutes
Speaker 7: Later, Li