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Doctor Bill forstin. He is a military historian. He is
a New York Times bestselling author. He's a professor up
at Montree College in western North Carolina, and also notably
the official historian of the Peak Calendar Show for many
many years. Doctor Bill. You're doing all right today?
Speaker 2: How are you glad to hear it? My title was
still good?
Speaker 1: Yes it is. It never expires. No continuing education needed
for that degree. Yeah, all right. So let's talk a
little bit about the Golden Dome. So I saw there
was a story over at Airindspace Forces dot com. It's
a publication for Air Force and the Space Force, and
they're talking about lawmakers in Congress are working to inject
tens of billions of dollars into President Donald Trump's ambitious
Golden Dome plan for comprehensive missile defense of the US
homeland in the coming month. So, first off, I guess
the Golden Dome. Explain what this thing is and why.
I guess you believe that it is needed.
Speaker 2: Okay, people might be more familiar in the news with
the issue of what's called Iron Dome, which is the
Israeli defense system against ballistic attack. The Iranians launched about
two hundred and thirty missiles at Israel. They were shot down,
but they were shot down in the last second, the
last two or three miles. It's a tactical defense system.
Golden Down is a strategic defense system designed to hit
missiles from thousands of miles away before they get to
the United States. My big issue, of course, has always
been emp If we don't shoot one of these down
and we are here with an electromagnetic pulse weapon, it
would cripple US. So I view this as like an
insurance policy on the United States to make sure we
continue to exist. Golden Dome will work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because we have talked about the abject failure of
governments at all level, all levels to harden our energy
infrastructure from an EMP. It can be done. It would
cost a lot of money, no doubt. But if an
EMP were to detonate, an emp's occur, These pulses occur
with nuclear warheads, correct, correct, right? And so if you can't,
if we're not moving ahead with hardening the energy grid
against an EMP, which also, by the way, can occur
with solar flares and such, the sun can all so
do this to us, then at least this would attempt
to take out warheads before they make it to our
airspace and either debtonate and just do an EMP, or
debtonate with the nuke as well. But you say it
will work. The timeframe, the window that they have to
shoot these things down though, it's very very tight.
Speaker 2: Is it not well yet? Again, Let's look at the
Israeli system, which is a tactical defense. It's absolutely remarkable.
You have short range and intermediate range missiles coming in
at thousands of miles an hour and in the last
seconds they are shot down. I always talk about this
as an insurance policy. You will know in a house
and not have insurance on it. We own a country.
We got to start putting an insurance policy on it
against ballistic threat. So yeah, don't.
Speaker 1: They talk about in this piece over at Airinspace Forces
dot Com. There's kinetic and non kinetic interception methods. Like
the kinetic would be obviously like ballistic hypersonic systems that
shoot stuff down. But then there's also non kinetic, which
would be directed energy weapons. Do you have any idea
what that?
Speaker 2: Is? Undoubtedly highly classified in some areas, but I would
assume some sophisticated laser story.
Speaker 1: Yes, space lasers. Okay, good, all right, that's what I
thought it might mean. So I am all for the
space lasers, which would also be helpful for like celebrations
we could do like laser shows and stuff like on
July fourth, I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, yeah, drones up there as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, drones laser Is it to be
a party? What about? How is this different than Reagan's
SDI program, the so called star Wars program, or is
there a.
Speaker 2: Different mid eighties known you know commonly is to triage
a defense initiative with Star Wars that was a kinetic system.
In other words, we send the missile up to intercept
the missile. It really wasn't going. It was a bluff
in many ways. There's a great history behind it. Because
no defense system can shoot down hundreds of missiles coming in.
It can shoot down a small number until you get overwhelmed.
Reagan system never would have worked, but we were bluffing
the Russians into thinking that it would and forcing them
to spend more on defense and drive them into bankruptcy,
which absolutely worked.
Speaker 1: So okay, so this is somehow different. It wouldn't be
shooting each individual missile down with our own missile, well
it would.
Speaker 2: But remember you're talking about scale one three five missiles.
My big fear has always been North Korea. I ran.
That's their capability against a Russian launch or even a
Chinese problematic. It's just too many. And remember all you
need is for one missile to get through, right. This
is for this to me is specifically against EMP more
than anything else.
Speaker 1: So and because they could just detonate all the way
up in the atmosphere and line of sight right, the
EMP would just be line of sight. Whatever is over
the Eastern seaboard would get knocked.
Speaker 2: Out right, because you don't need pinpoint re entry accuracy.
You know on ICBM, those who launch Transition and to
hit a city, it takes a very precise capability, which
the Iranians definitely don't have in northern North Arenas. It's
like horseshoes and hand grenades. Just get it close, just
get it two hundred miles above the United States and
blow it. So we have to hit it before that happens.
Speaker 1: This sounds like a good topic for a potential book, right, Actually,
Doctor Bill has written that book. It's called One Second
After And for people who aren't aware of it, there
are there are three now three other books in the series. Right,
there's the original trilogy and then you've got the fourth
book that is pretty recent. How long ago did the
fourth win come out?
Speaker 2: That came out last year? And as a couple of
weeks ago. We're going to start filming a movie sometime
in August or.
Speaker 1: September, which is I asked you this the other day.
Is this the Hollywood time frame or is this a
real time frame? Because Hollywood has this habit of like
saying yes to stuff and then nothing ever happens.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we're past the the option hell and
everything else. They've already got the producer locked in and
quite a few of the people. They're definitely moving for
between August and September to start filming.
Speaker 1: Right around the corner, do you and can you say
where it's being filmed. I would lobby for, you know,
western North Carolina.
Speaker 2: In fact, the director was up here week eyeball on
the place out but most of the bocos. I mean,
it's going to take place overseas, either Bulgaria or Romania,
which looks.
Speaker 1: Looks exactly like Black Mountain, right, Y's I've.
Speaker 2: See there are locations that does look a lot like that. Okay, yeah,
but they have whole sets over there. That's the place
to go now for quite a few films, especially MB films.
Speaker 1: Well, and I was thinking maybe you talked to the
director about this but after Hurricane Helene, like if you're
trying to show well, although I guess that probably wouldn't
be that wouldn't line up with the storyline because the
whole point of the MP is that stuff doesn't get
knocked down and blown over. It just everything stops working
because the solows get fried. So yes, yeah, so maybe
it wouldn't be post apocalyptic good visuals in that regard
because of the actual physical.
Speaker 2: Devastation yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all right, so tell people though real quick
from about this, but one second after, why how did
you get the idea to write about EMPs?
Speaker 2: This goes back many years, back to the nineties when
I was in graduate school in Indiana and we got
hit by a massive one in a thousand year ice
norm that blew the grid out for over a month.
So that planet the idea of what's made two thousand
and fine, it finally started coming together and actually the
books went now for fifteen years now and it's still
selling strong. I'm still getting royalties.
Speaker 1: Well, that's good. More, that's good. Yeah, And it's a
fantastic book. But I will say if you are easily
anxious or you know, yeah, yeah, you probably want to
steer clear for this because the book lays out in
detail what happens to Black Mountain, North Carolina, basically the
small town, what happens to the people in that town
when you shut all of their electronics off basically and
all of the comforts of life.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not science fiction. I based my book
on congressional studies, any number of studies of what could happen.
And the worst case scenario is if we lost our
power grid completely for inxtentive period of time, eighty to
ninety percent of the population would perish within a year.
I would not want to be in Charlotte on the day.
Speaker 1: That happens, right, which is that's when Christy and I
developed our bug out plan after we read your book.
Speaker 2: You should have you got a place here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you, I appreciate. I think we have
some options, and I don't want to disclose where they
are because I don't want any of the bands of
marauders to intercept us on our paths. But yeah, we
do have a bug out plan, and I highly advise
everybody to have one. It's just smart preparation because you
never know. It could be a hurricane, you know, and
you need to get out quickly. And so the Prepper
movement looks at doctor Bill in that book. I think
as as sort of one of you, one of the
originals the ogs here, and for I think correct reason.
So if you haven't read the book, I highly recommend it.
I'm really happy about the movie finally getting made, looking
forward to that. If they need any kind of radio announcer,
I'm happy to travel to Bulgaria. You let me know.
Speaker 2: I'll pack you allot going out there for several weeks
when they start filming.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's so good. All right, doctor Bill forstin
you can. You can read his book one second after.
I always enjoyed talking with you Bill.
Speaker 2: See you soon, Hey, pe God bless you, God bless America.
Speaker 1: Yes you too. Oh. By the way, that reminds me.
Have you seen any of the stories about what they're
planning for the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday party for
America next year? Have you seen anything going on.
Speaker 2: With thath No? Not yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not going to be happy. You being a
historian and all, you might want to look into a
thing called the American Association for State and Local History
because they are putting together the programming recommendations and states
are just adopting this stuff. And this may surprise you
to learn, but they are going to look at American
history critically.
Speaker 2: Oh God save us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so I'll be covering this in a bit,
but doctor Bill will let you go. Thanks so much
for your time, man, appreciate it. Good to talk with you.
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I do have a couple of tweets. They're Pete tweets.
This is from Alan who says, I read Doctor Bill's
series Doctor William Forston one second after. I think they
are called the John Masterson series because that's the main
character in the book. I read the series after you
talked to Bill last time. I couldn't put it down.
I'd still be reading it if the series had continued
on right. Well, and this is the thing, the first book,
he was only intending to write that one book, and
then like his publisher just like wore him down over years,
just calling him, calling him email and beating them down. Finally, okay,
he did two more books, and I think that what
was it called one one year after or the day after?
I forget, but they're all in that series. And then
he just put out last year was the fourth book
in the series. I have it. I have not gotten
to read it yet, much like the stack of books
that I have that I have yet to read, because
I basically read all day long, and so when I
get home and I'm trying to unwind, it's like I'm
read out, you know what I mean, I've read. I've
read so much over the course of the last you know,
fourteen hours that I got to do something else besides,
you know, reading, Like you know, scrolling Twitter. That's much
better for me. By the way, Talking Baby podcast hilarious.
There's only two episodes, but I saw it last night.
They're like three and it's a piece. They're hilarious. Cindy
says Pete, I heard you mentioned an Oregon. Hang on
a second before I do that. That's the uh that's
on the American history thing. Let me read this from
Jessica says, following the Doctor forest In book turning into
a movie, I love the book, super excited it's becoming
a movie. Now I am too, Like I've so I've
known doctor Bill since twenty twelve when I first went
up to Ashville and people in the audience were like,
you need to get doctor Bill on, you need to
get doctor Bill Forston, and so I reached out. I
had him in and great guy, super smart, you know historian.
So like we've had him on this show a couple
of times doing the the anniversary of the Battle of
Gettysburg and and so he talks about you know, the
troop movie mints and you know some of the truths
and the myths, and you know the people involved in
all of that. So always it's I've done a lot
of stuff with him on World War two Operation Overlord.
We've talked with him about that stuff. So twenty twelve,
and I think the entire time that I have known him,
this idea of turning one second after into a movie
was like, this was something that everybody wanted to see done,
and it felt like he was getting strung along and
Hollywood has this. There's a dark side in Hollywood. And
I'm not saying this occurred with him, but I am.
I am aware of somebody else this happened to, where
they read your script, they essentially like buy it from
you or something, and they're like, we like this, so
we take like exclusive ownership of it, and we're going
to work it through our development process or whatever. And
then they just basically sit on it and then they
do a story or movie as show or something that
is very similar to the script that they just bought
from you, and then you can't get it back from them.
So again, I'm not saying that happen with Doctor Bill
in this case, but it's Hollywood, and so it wouldn't
surprise me if that was what occurred. Yeah, it's a
snake pit. Anyway. I did mention the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary the birthday celebration for America, and I became
aware of this by reading a piece over at the Federalist.
I was unaware that there was some sort of a
programming recommendation that had been put together for all of
the states, although it does make sense because we're going
to have a big, you know, celebration, a year long
celebration next year for America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
so they created the I'm going to see if I
can pronounce this word correctly. I think it's Latin, maybe
Greek something. Semi Quincentennial, semi quincentennial. That's what we're celebrating
the United States is semi Quincentennial Commission. That's the body
that was convened to at least theoretically provide national coordination
for all of the commemorative events that are going on
around the nation and in the nation's capital and such now.
According to Travis eckham over at The Federalist, he is
a political activist in Minnesota and the founder of m
n USA two fifty, which is a nonprofit dedicated to
influencing Minnesota's contributions to the semi Quincentennial. Okay, so this
guy is involved in his states semi quincentennial planning and
celebration events. So he writes that ostensibly, each state and
territory also has its own independent committee to plan, you know,
their local contributions to all of the festivities. But in reality,
a minimum so far maybe more of fourteen states have
simply adopted the programming recommendations from a single nonprofit. And
that's called the American Association for State and Local History
or the aa SLH, or as I call it, the
ASSYLA what, No, that's what it is, the aa SLH,
the ASSLA, and the ASSLA CEO is a guy named
John Dicktyl. I'm look, I'm just reading that this. This
is no, it's not my fault. That's his name, Dichtl.
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or the ASLA. The president and CEO of ASLA is
John Dicktyl. He recorded a zoom presentation in twenty twenty
one in which he explicitly outlined the goals. He describes
twenty twenty six as a quote once in a generation
opportunity to critically engage with our nation's history. The word
critical there is critical. You might say it's important when
you see just like critical race theory, critical theory before
it was critical race theory, the critical theory, the whole
idea behind critical theory. And I don't want to say
critical thinking because like people have an idea like, oh,
that just means, you know, thinking through problems and that
sort of thing. But to the leftists, to the to
the Marxists, this is central to the tearing down of
the systems of oppression, the systems of capitalism. Whatever it
is to criticize, right, to constantly tear down, to dismantle
through critique. So critical, critically engage is what he said.
To critically engage, which is to criticize. Now they'll dress
it up so it's not like America stinks and they're
not going to say that, but they're going to you know,
identify some things that weren't so good. And what do
you think this means for us now? And shouldn't we
make these revolutionary changes like the revolutionaries did lo those
many years ago. Like that's the whole focus of this ASSLA.
I think I'm pronouncing that right, He says, it would
be a chance to quote foster critical awareness. There it
is again. So when you see the word critical being
used like this, that's the tell that the person who
is doing it is a Marxist. That's who is in
charge of the ASSALA, John Dicktyl. He's leading the ASSLA,
you might say. So he wants to foster critical awareness
of our faults past and present and the changes we
need to make now to move toward justice. To advance
this cause, they have produced the assla's Field Guide for
the semi Quincentennial. This guide provides five themes around which
programming should be oriented. Number one unfinished revolutions. What do
I always say, I quote James lindsay from new discourses,
the issue is never the issue. The issue is always
the revolution. This is another example of it. They're going
to critique America on its two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
they're going to critique America in an effort to move
towards towards justice. And unfinished Revolutions is another tell because
the issue isn't the issue. The issue is the revolution,
which is what the Marxists want. The critical nature of
the tactics are simply that, just tactics in order to
achieve la revolution. So the first one is unfinished revolution,
second theme power of Place, Third We the People, four
American Experiment, and five doing history. So when you look
at the unfinished revolutions theme, it includes discussions like how
people have continually challenged America to live up to our
highest ideals. Beyond the revolution itself, the American revolution, the
colonial timeframe, which is what I thought we were supposed
to be focusing on, like talking about like throwing off
the monarchy, the tyranny of the British crown, setting up
this system, this idea of America. Right, But no, no, no,
beyond the revolution itself, what were other revolutionary moments in
the history of our country, our states, in our communities. Right,
So then this is induced education, right, that's the purpose
of the Lesson Plan, And this occurs in K twelve
gov CO schools and did college as well. It's you
you get to the examination or a controversial topic. You
get there by asking these questions that induce the answer
that then lets you talk about the topic that you
want to talk about. Let you frame an issue. This
is like what was it? There was like a math
question that was asked about. You know, this family is
leaving this city at this time, going this fast, and
this other family is leaving this other city whatever. And
then they describe like the characteristics of the family and
the car they're driving, their race and all this other stuff,
and then it allows the teacher to start injecting the
you know, the oppressed oppressor dynamic into that. The critical
race theory then bubbles up during a lesson about math,
because then they can say, well, they're in a car.
Don't they have a nicer car that can go as
fast and they don't have two drivers because this kid
only has one parent and why is that? And that's
how they open the door to talk about these various topics.
These are activists posing as teachers. Okay, there are a
lot of them. I'm not saying old teachers are activists,
but I am saying there are activists who are teachers,
but they're not really teachers, but that's their job description.
Then there's power of place. Second theme, the only element
under the power of place at all related to the
revolution is a question what was happening in your community
during the revolutionary era? And at first you may think, oh, well,
that makes sense. Well, yeah, if you're in one of
the thirteen colonies that had a city in it or
town or something at the time. But most of the
current geography of America was not part of the original
thirteen colonies. So then it allows educators or historical interpreters
to shift the discussion away from the founding to indigenous
people's past and present connections with American spaces, as well
as quote the profound and unequal consequences of imperial expansion
and colonization across the continent. See everything is used as
an on ramp to this kind of Marxist ideology, this criticality,
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country so they want to change it because once again,
to quote Barack Obama, he of the Tan suit, that
you don't fundamentally transform something you love and He promised
to do that, to fundamentally transform America, and if you
love the country, then that is not something that you're
interested in doing. This is why Russell Limbaugh famously said,
I hope he fails and everybody lost their my, oh
my gosh, you're saying that about the first black president. Well, yeah,
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tweet from Moral Compass, who says, imagine celebrating Grandpa's birthday
with a presentation of all the things he's done wrong.
This whole celebration idea just stinks. Yeah, this is this
is what the lefties have in store for us. Using
the American Association for State and Local History the AASLH
or the ASLA, and the president and CEO named John Dicktyl.
He wants to use this opportunity to critically engage with
our nation's history to foster critical awareness of our faults.
So that's going to be America's birthday party. How much
we suck? Oh man, this is going to be awesome. Now,
states are just adopting the recommendations from the ASSLA, which
is pretty asinine. If you ask me, do your own thing. Guys,
make your own stuff. There are other resources out there.
I do not know if North Carolina has adopted this yet.
They got five themes. I went over the first two.
Here's the third, We the People. It orients discussion around
quote who has been and remains excluded from full participation
and representation in our democracy. The ASSLA also suggests considering
the questions of who is considered an American and who
gets to decide Again, these redirect the discussion away from
the subject of the revolutionary era and towards arguments about
like expanding the voting franchise to non citizens. Right, it's all.
It's all directing the directed education, directing the conversations to
leftist agenda. Bullet points fourth theme, American experiment. It has
questions like how was your local and state government organized,
who did it serve? And who does it continue to exclude? Right,
These questions are not passive inquiries. They are deliberately designed
to nudge the respondent into diminishing the significance of the
American Revolution. It ceases to be a righteous triumph against
an unjust monarchy, and then becomes simply a transition from
one corrupt tyranny into another. Like the others, this theme
is not intended to broaden knowledge of the revolution nor
deepen understanding of it. This should be an opportunity to
focus all of Americans' attention to the founding ideals, the
things that are in fact timeless. You guys have spent
every day of like the last fifty years, trashing America NonStop,
talking about all the flaws, talking about all the problems.
I get it. I don't deny that America has faults
and did have faults, and did abuses and bad things,
and there were bad people. All of that is true.
It's fine. I don't care, though, because just for one
brief period of time, can we just look at some
of the good? Can we just do that? I feel
like the negative to positive is way out of whack
as a proportion, you know, And if you're going to
be the people charged with creating the birthday party for
the country, I feel like you should love the country
and you should highlight the thing that you do in
fact love about it, rather than just constantly criticizing every
single thing The final theme doing history. Yeah, this one
doesn't sound good right from the gate. It focuses on
asking who has been historically silenced or excluded from traditional presentations. Again,
the American Revolution is simply a pretense, right, It is
just a stepping stone in order to pivot to a
discussion about inclusivity or the value of quote other disciplines
aside from history. This theme, along with the rest of
the Assyla's Field Guide, is a blueprint for deconstructing America
by delegitimizing our founding. It's like the sixteen nineteen project.
It's the same crap because again, the issue isn't the issue.
The issue is always the revolution. In this case, the
issue isn't the celebration of the America's founding. The issue
is the revolution. How do we get more people to
hate this country so we can throw a revolution and
get rid of this system and implement it with our
utopian vision where everybody will probably end up in a
gulag or dead like that's the utopian vision. In twenty
twenty one, many states passed laws restricting teaching rooted in
critical race theory, as well as intersectionality and similar race
based theories. The CEO of the ESLA, John Dictyl, has
made clear his contempt for efforts to abolish racialized education,
and he's even boasted that he plans to use this
opportunity presented by It's also called America to fifty. That's
what they're like. There's a hashtag America to fifty and
a lot of these commission are set up with that
sort of shorthand name because you know, the actual name
is the US Semi semi Quincentennial Commission, also called America
to fifty. Okay, So he's using America to fifty to
work around the restrictions that have been coming down against
this very kind of educational focus. This propaganda is what
it is. To support this circumvention, the ASLA sent out
twenty thousand copies of their field guide. They sent it
out to historians, scholars, and teachers. The ubiquity of the
guide is no doubt why states like Wisconsin, Idaho, and
even Texas have all embraced the programming for their planning committees.
This is a problem, people, This is a big problem.
Away from jubilant affirmation, they're directing towards compulsive deconstruction. The
Semiquincentennial is shaping up to be yet another deluge of
heritage effacing turpentine. Public service announcement from me to whoever
needs to hear it. It is okay to love America.
It's okay to love your country, to love the ideas,
to love the philosophy all people are created equal right
that we have rights that are endowed by our creator,
not a government. It's okay to love that. You can
object to the government all you want, Lord knows I do,
but patriotism is cool. You can love America all right.
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