WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.040 Ice chest of information. It's essential to know what's going 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:07.000 on inside KARC the talkstation. 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:14.119 Hey, oh five fifty five GARCD talk station, Happy Friday Eve. 4 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:15.800 You know what that means? 5 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:17.960 Jay Rodland at the bottomy R I heard Needy Aviation 6 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:20.280 Exist always closed the show out on a positive note 7 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:23.920 with Jay on Thursday, and I'm pleased to welcome. Timing 8 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:25.920 couldn't be better considered. We've been talking a lot about 9 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:30.600 violence in the Cincinnati. In Greater Cincinnati, Aaron Winer's joining 10 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:33.399 the program. Aaron is a member of the Clifton Community Council, 11 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:37.039 but he's also running for Cincinnati City Council as a 12 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:38.960 charter right erin It's great to have you on the program. 13 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:39.960 Thanks for joining the show. 14 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.679 Hey, thanks for having me. Good morning and morning Cincinnati, and. 15 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:47.240 I will let folks know it's a winer for Cincinnati. 16 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:49.960 W E I N E R four f O R 17 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:52.560 Cincinnati dot com. That's where you find his campaign website. 18 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:54.920 He's also on Facebook. Before we get to what you're 19 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.520 running on as council and what your vision, excuse me, 20 00:00:57.560 --> 00:00:59.600 your vision and your priorities are for the for the 21 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:03.799 city in your role as a Clifton Community council member, 22 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:05.560 you had a bit of a problem on your hands. 23 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:10.239 I guess it was this past Sunday, a late night 24 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.640 with their calling street takeover on Ludlow Avenue. Apparently more 25 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:18.319 than eighty people crowd the street, blocking traffic, intimidating people, 26 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.319 and it got kind of unruly, and so much so 27 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.560 that my understanding is the there was a fire truck 28 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:27.079 that was trying to get out. They couldn't get the 29 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.239 fire truck out to go on a run. That's kind 30 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:33.480 of scary. This came up in your council meeting on Monday, 31 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:33.879 did it not? 32 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.760 Correct? So, first of all, just for the record, I'm 33 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.159 not on Clifton Town Meeting. I'm a member of the 34 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:44.799 Clifton Town Meeting. I'm a Clifton resident, and along Withst. Ty, 35 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:47.640 I'm not one of the officers, but i can certainly 36 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.000 speak to help the issue because I'm very I'm very 37 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:51.640 well informed. 38 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.799 Of course, you are an actively involved, concerned citizen. 39 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:57.359 That qualifies you because concern. 40 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:58.920 And I'm a member and I'm a member of Clifton 41 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:02.239 Town Meeting. So so essentially, let me start with some history. 42 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:06.239 So this particular business has been sort of a score 43 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:10.240 to the community for quite some time. It started in 44 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:17.319 fall of twenty three when Facebook posts have been posted 45 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.039 for after parties at this business hookah bar. 46 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:25.240 So you're talking about the Bohemian hookah cafe, correct, correct. 47 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.879 So it started in the fall of twenty three. They 48 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.680 were posting on the Facebook page after parties and they 49 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:37.159 first started indoor sort of non nondescript things, which slowly 50 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:45.000 turned into pouring into the outdoors and loud dancing and disruption, 51 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:50.520 which turned into selling alcohol and other things out of 52 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:56.400 the cars and just disruption. So you know, over multiple occasions, 53 00:02:56.520 --> 00:03:00.280 CTM had reached out and also our business to strict 54 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.919 we have a Business District Association as well, has engaged 55 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:09.479 the police, has engaged city city law apartments, they have 56 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.000 cameras of it, they have video of it. And each 57 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:20.039 time that we've brought this to the attention, you know, 58 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.159 we can't prove anything. We can't we can't identify people, 59 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:30.400 so it's an ongoing thing. Which basically the culmination of 60 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:33.520 this was what happened over the fourth of July weekend, 61 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.439 which was one of these events, which was probably extra 62 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:44.800 escalated because it was a holiday. Eighty plus people about 63 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:48.000 three forty three thirty in the morning to four o'clock 64 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:52.280 in the morning, so July, you know, July fifth into 65 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.319 the sixth, and on Sunday, just the crowd in the street. 66 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:58.919 It is true. You know, we have our firehouse right 67 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:02.520 there on the street corner of Ludlow and Clifton, and 68 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:06.120 that was blocked that they couldn't get out. Police showed up. 69 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:10.080 They quickly realized that this is out of hand, certainly, 70 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:12.360 I know I not. Tatoes were used and pepper balls 71 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:15.159 were used, and they realized that they didn't have enough 72 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.560 people to actually handle it, called for backup, which was 73 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:26.160 not readily available. Imagine that. So it escalated. There were arrests, 74 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:31.240 there were guns, and obviously could have been a lot worse. 75 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:35.279 There was a felony assault on an officer, and this 76 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:36.879 could have been a lot worse. There could have been 77 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:39.399 a shooting. There could have who knows where that fire 78 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.639 truck was going. Where they going to someone's house that 79 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:44.959 was having an emergency. You know, we don't really know 80 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.160 that part of the story yet. So I mean, basically 81 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.720 this is just sort of a culmination and sort of 82 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:53.639 the pinnacle of what was what's been going on in 83 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.160 the neighborhood. For a good part of almost two years, 84 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.040 and I think what really sort of the is I 85 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.839 keep up on the news, and certainly I was out 86 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.240 of talent actually when this was going on. But it 87 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:12.800 was shocked that this happened Sunday and I didn't hear 88 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.040 about this. No one heard about this until Tuesday when 89 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:18.600 the news broke through through our business association CTM. You know, 90 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.399 why was this not brought out in the news. I mean, 91 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.839 this just happened in Blue Ash, which was all over 92 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.079 the news. Yeah, you're right, you know happened. This was 93 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:28.839 sort of swept under the rug, and you know, I 94 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:32.439 didn't even hear about it as an involved neighbor until 95 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.519 Tuesday when the news broke Yeah. 96 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:38.720 Well, we've had a real problem, at least collectively, observing 97 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:40.959 the reactions of the sincinn City Council and the mayor 98 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:42.959 to the lot of the violence that's going on. I mean, 99 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.759 this isn't the first gang of unruly people who've gathered 100 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.680 together in sufficient numbers to overwhelm the police. Silence seems 101 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:52.600 to be deafening for at least from the Mayor's office 102 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.240 and from the council members. So maybe this is just 103 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.240 a concerted effort. It's bad for business, it's bad for marketing. 104 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.319 It makes the city look bad. It makes Clifton look bad. 105 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:01.959 If we find out we got gangs of kids that 106 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:04.519 are showing up at three o'clock in the morning outside 107 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:07.360 of this hookah bar, partying in the street and waving 108 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.319 guns around, and maybe they just want to sleep it 109 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.600 under the rug. I'm left to speculate on that aerin. 110 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:16.560 But this Bohemian hookah cafe, according to Channel nine, they're 111 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:20.439 open between four pm and four am every day, that 112 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:24.360 is past bar closure time. They're not a they don't 113 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:26.600 have a liquor license. But don't the bars in the 114 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:28.800 in the Clifton area and your community close at two 115 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:29.600 o'clock in the morning. 116 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.959 That's correct, that's correct. I mean I think some action 117 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:37.199 might even close earlier, depending on the traffic that that 118 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:38.199 they received that night. 119 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:42.439 Sure, so the Bohemian Huko cafe not having a liquor license, 120 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:44.639 but apparently drawing the attention of a bunch of people 121 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:46.399 that want to hang out there, that's how you end 122 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.879 up having alcohol being sold out of cars because it's 123 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.600 past bar open time. But if there's an opportunity to 124 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:54.360 make a little money and people are going to continue 125 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.800 to want to drink. That's obviously that's going to happen, 126 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:58.639 or at least seems logical that it's happening. 127 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.639 It's correct, it's an attractive nuisance. Realized what it is. 128 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.879 So are they going to close down? I saw that the. 129 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:11.639 Reporting indicated that the owner of the establishment's building is 130 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:15.680 trying to evict the Bohemian hooka cafe as the city 131 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.279 helped along those lines. Have they been identified as a 132 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:19.680 nuisance business yet? 133 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:21.519 Is? Are we moving in that direction? 134 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.959 As far as far as I know, that has not 135 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.560 been identified and that's not been part of that equation. 136 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:32.040 No. 137 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:36.639 I mean, I think certainly the landlord has has recourse 138 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:42.240 with their own process, But as far as we're the stars, 139 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.839 I'm concerned there really has not been much of an 140 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:46.079 effort yet through the city. 141 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.279 All Right, Well, now that it's made the news eron 142 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.439 and it's and you obviously have been aware of it 143 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.800 living in the neighborhood. You've talked about the videos that 144 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:55.720 have been shown to the police in the past and all, 145 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.639 we can't identify who that is, but that doesn't suggest 146 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.839 that it isn't happening. Look, there's the crowd of people. 147 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.279 I know, we can't figure out who's in that crowd, 148 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:08.279 but look what's going on all the time. It seems 149 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:09.959 to me the natural reaction will be to post to 150 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.560 have a broader, larger police presence right there outside of 151 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.920 the hookah bar uh to keep people from congregating and 152 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:19.360 engaging in this kind of activity. 153 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.279 I mean, I think that would that would probably be helpful. 154 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.360 I mean, and certainly in the past we have you know, 155 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:27.959 they've certainly gone, but they just say they can't they 156 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.759 can't prove it, they can't find, you know, what they're 157 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.480 doing driven by before. But again, I mean, I think 158 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:39.200 certainly if the presence would there's no substitute for an 159 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.120 after deterrence, and that's that's having the police presence, you know, 160 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:43.840 during during the situation. 161 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:44.840 All right. 162 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.240 And what is concerning about this is that maybe the 163 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:51.279 most logical and simplest solution just get a whole bunch 164 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.320 more officers up there to keep them from engaging in 165 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:57.279 criminal activity otherwise blocking the street to the fire department. 166 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.840 But as you pointed out, the police that were there 167 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:04.919 appreciated that they were overwhelmed by the numbers, were probably 168 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.879 afraid given the number of people there called for backup, 169 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:12.000 which wasn't immediately available, So we run into that problem 170 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:12.559 all the time. 171 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:12.919 Aaron. 172 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:17.120 The police are already working multiple overtime hours. They're short staff. 173 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.200 I think they're down one hundred and fifty plus. They've 174 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:22.039 got more people every day who are announcing early retirement. 175 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.919 I talked to the FLP president about on the program 176 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.639 earlier this week, and that's a frightening thing. And I 177 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.759 know part of your campaign plan for running for Cincny 178 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:35.120 City Council is expanding the number of officers and increasing 179 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.080 the classes, but that takes a while to accomplish. So 180 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:42.960 we're dealing with the real police shortage here is really 181 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:43.799 what this comes down to. 182 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:49.840 Correct, Correct, My understanding is we're about nine hundred and 183 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:53.799 chains and we should be about twelve hundred and chains 184 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:58.679 to sort of meet the requirements for pody of our size. 185 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:03.240 Well, Aaron, you want to talk about your campaign, we'll 186 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.480 bring you back and dive on into some of the 187 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:06.519 platform you're running on. 188 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:11.799 Aaron Winer, that's correct, Let's thank you. So let's do that. So, Pa, 189 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:12.480 let's pause. 190 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:14.879 I mean, I'm at break time, so I'll bring you 191 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.399 back and we'll dive on maybe a little bit more 192 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:20.360 of this, but also your platform for since a city 193 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.519 council lord knows we could use a refreshing change, and 194 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:25.360 Eron may very well be that guy age fifteen right now. 195 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:27.120 If you I have care see de talk station. Let 196 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:30.159 me first mention cover sincy. The phone call that you 197 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.720 should make. Phone call that won't cost you anything, the 198 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:34.759 phone call that won't oblige you to do anything, a 199 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:37.679 phone call that will result and cover sincy. 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Oh and by 207 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:59.240 the way, that tax credit it goes away if you 208 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:01.960 make more than six four grand in the next calendar years. 209 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:03.759 So if you're operating with the tax credit, which is 210 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.799 what makes it affordable, you need to talk to John Roulman. 211 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:10.840 He is your broker, working with hundreds of insurance companies 212 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.679 across the table from you and John and his team. 213 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:16.840 They're not beholding to any one of them. They have 214 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:19.559 an allegation to you to sift through all of the 215 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:22.519 thousands of available policies and find out one that best 216 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.679 suits your needs, needs which can change over time. 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So call him up, let 227 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:55.919 him do the analysis for you, Let him come up 228 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:57.720 with a better way. Five one three eight hundred call 229 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.279 that's five one three eight hundred two two five five. 230 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:02.519 There's a form online you can fill out. They won't 231 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:05.320 give your information to anybody. It stays right there with them. 232 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:10.480 Cover sincy dot com fifty five KRC for more information 233 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.360 about contests on this date eight nineteen fifty five KR 234 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:17.360 CD Talk Station Ryan Thomas with Aaron Weiner running for 235 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:19.600 Cincinna City Council. You have a choice out there. You 236 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:21.120 don't have to go with the same old, same old. 237 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:22.879 Doing the same thing over and over again is the 238 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.159 definition of stupidity if you're expecting a different result. Winer 239 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.080 for Cincinnati we I an E R F O R 240 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.720 Cincinnati dot COM's his website for his campaign, or he 241 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.320 can find him on Facebook at Aaron with two A's 242 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:38.080 winer for Cincinnati City Council. Aaron, what of your priorities 243 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.960 and I appreciate your priorities public safety and law enforcement 244 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.519 along the lines of what we've been talking about youth 245 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.759 violence and crime prevention. Quite often these roving gangs include 246 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.639 a bunch of underage young people. How they are out 247 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:51.320 in how they get away with being out at three 248 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.799 o'clock in the morning, That to me seems a family issue. 249 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.679 But we do have a curfew. And one thing I 250 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.720 learned from the FOP president other's on Lawenform. They don't 251 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:04.159 even bother picking them up for truancy violations because nothing 252 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:06.440 is ever done. There's no room at the end in 253 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:10.360 terms of locking them up overnight, and the judicial system 254 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.639 usually just dismisses the case outright, just no, done, We're 255 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.600 gonna let them go. So how do we solve that problem? 256 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.639 Because that's a critical leg of the criminal justice system 257 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.840 is punishment. It acts as a deterrence to others. They're 258 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.759 know they're going to get in trouble if they do something, 259 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.360 and it also punishes the person who broke the law. 260 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.399 If you take that out, I say, you basically destroyed 261 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.120 the concept of law enforcement. 262 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:35.759 Correct, correct, So I mean I think first of all, 263 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.000 it starts by by saying that unfortunately, we can't parent 264 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:42.320 everyone's child. And I think it does. It does start 265 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:46.039 it in the home, and there's certainly there's certainly lots 266 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:47.840 of nuances to that that I. 267 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:48.519 Do agree with you. 268 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.679 I think we need we can't have law as if 269 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.480 we don't enforce them. I mean, truancy is an important 270 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:58.279 part of that, and I think that should be followed 271 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:00.879 up on. And it starts and it's it's there. I mean, 272 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:05.840 it's it's if you start catching things early, it prevents 273 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.480 things that happen later. And I think it does. It 274 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.399 does boil down to consequences. I think you know, growing up, 275 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:16.159 we learned that if if if you did act, then 276 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:19.759 why could happen? Absolutely and why why could could be 277 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.879 the worst case possible. So we learned that we just 278 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:27.000 didn't do that, or you know, if we got away 279 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:29.960 with it once, great, but it probably won't happen again. 280 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:35.919 I know, just thinking of my day my late father 281 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.600 and mother or my mom is still with us. But yeah, 282 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.080 they did not abide this kind of behavior. 283 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:41.480 Period. 284 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:42.919 If they found me that I was at at three 285 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.399 o'clock in the morning hanging out with a gang, uh 286 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.000 and maybe getting perhaps of being a victim of a 287 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.240 drive by shooting, trust me, there would be hell to 288 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:51.559 pay in my house. 289 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.080 Right absolutely. And again it's not it's not that I'm 290 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:57.960 not for I mean, I know that some of the 291 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:00.039 things that we're doing in the city or are providing 292 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.799 programs and so forth, and and it's not that I'm 293 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:07.039 against that. I do think, you know, certain certain programs 294 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.960 that are doing are good. But that's really not. That's 295 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.679 a social problem. That's not that's that's that's a social fix, 296 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.480 that's not a law enforcement fix. So while I'm for 297 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.159 some of that, it's not it's not it's not the solution. 298 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:21.759 It's certainly and certainly kids do need things to do. 299 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.879 We can't go to King's Island anymore under a certainty. 300 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:25.399 So I get it. 301 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:28.200 There's you know, there's there's things that I could have 302 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.120 done as a kid that maybe people can't do now. 303 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:32.039 So I totally get that. But still it does it 304 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.200 does boil down to if X happens, then why will 305 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.519 happen as well? And I do think we do need 306 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:42.440 to take take this seriously and actually have consequences. And 307 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:47.879 you know, you know, the magistrates can't just release someone 308 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.759 back if they've gone to trouble. Let's let's let's have 309 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.639 a plan that that does have some consequences, does take 310 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.600 away you know, some freedoms for a while. Yeah, and 311 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:59.240 hopefully that curbs the problem. 312 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.639 Another thing I see on your list of priorities, and 313 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:04.039 this is going to put a small lot of my 314 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:08.000 listeners faces. Repealing connected communities ran into this. It's as 315 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:10.799 if the city council does not care about the local 316 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.639 nature of the different neighborhoods that are in the city 317 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:16.519 of Cincinnati. We saw this unfold with bond Hill Hyde Park. 318 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:20.799 They first shove connected communities as a zoning concept on 319 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:24.279 all of the neighborhoods without consulting them and regardless of 320 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:26.200 whether or not they were interested in it, and then 321 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.919 offer waivers to connected developers like in Hyde Park to 322 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.759 go outside of connected communities and build whatever it is 323 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.000 these developers won. Now that's going to be at least 324 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:37.600 on the ballot this fall, and I think there's going 325 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:39.240 to be a lot of people voting in favor of that. 326 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:42.000 But you just like to repeal the whole connecting communities concept. 327 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:47.679 Correct, Well, let me start with the genesis of my campaign, 328 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:50.639 which is very much in line with what you've just said, 329 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.799 is that I'm sitting here right now in my office 330 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:58.279 on Hyde Park Square, and I've been my business has 331 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:02.080 been here for over twenty years, and my particular office 332 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:06.400 is part of that at the center of the controversial development. 333 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:10.000 And that's sort of what is what has to think 334 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:11.799 about Rene for cons Council for a long time. But 335 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:15.480 that's sort of what catapulted me into jumping into the race, 336 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.359 because all of a sudden, I became a stakeholder in this, 337 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:22.720 in this in this this large issue, so to get 338 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:27.240 to get back to connected communities, and obviously I'm in 339 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.880 real estate, so I'm sitting in my real estate office 340 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:34.680 I'm for development. I've been around for all the genres 341 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:38.079 of development in Cincinnati, from when they were building the 342 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:42.359 comments of the in the Central Business District to Gate 343 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:46.039 Recorder to OTR to Main Street to Walna Hill. I've 344 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.599 been involved in all of them. I'm for development right. 345 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:52.400 What I'm against are a couple things. The first thing is, 346 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.960 you know, we have we are a unique city of 347 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.440 Hill of Hills and the River. To have a one 348 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.480 size fits all brushstroke across the city does not make 349 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:06.200 sense to me. If you get in your car and 350 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:09.920 you drive from College Hill down the Lower Side and 351 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:15.759 in the Clifton and each neighborhood has different needs, So 352 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.599 why would we have a brushstroke across the whole city? 353 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.319 Is a one size fits all? You know, getting getting 354 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.880 back to Clifton where this where this whole incident happened, 355 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:28.000 we were talking about. You know, one of the things 356 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:32.039 we didn't talk about is there's apartment buildings all around 357 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:36.240 there that are getting that we're involved. There's density in Clifton. 358 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:36.720 Oh yeah. 359 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.319 But my point is, My point is is that each 360 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:44.359 neighborhood has their own needs. So to just put a 361 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:49.519 brushstroke across the entire city, to me, without consideration of 362 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:53.119 the individual needs of the community, with bad legislation, which 363 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.319 is another reason why I wanted to use my experience 364 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:01.039 as a real tour to have these discussions bout development 365 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:04.039 and these touch issues and be the adult in the 366 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:06.319 room that's we're discussing them. I believe in the city 367 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:09.319 and I want to make sure that we preserve the architecture. 368 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:11.720 There's a reason why fifty movies have been filmed and 369 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:13.519 since and now you're over the last several years, over 370 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.640 the last many years. It's our architecture, it's our character. 371 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.200 You know, that's an asset we. 372 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:18.759 Need to pigs. 373 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:21.759 Aaron Wyner, speaking my language, I appreciate what you have 374 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:26.079 to say. I really strongly encourage my Cincinnati listeners to 375 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.119 get over to your website and learn more about what 376 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:31.279 you stand for some really good priorities here. Aaron, it's 377 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:33.960 Weiner for Cincinnati dot com erin. You're welcome on the 378 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:36.799 show and we'll talk again, hopefully between now and this 379 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:38.519 fall and the election. I wish you all the best 380 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:39.079 of luck, sir. 381 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:42.279 Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 382 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:44.359 My pleasure A twenty seven right now, if you I 383 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:48.920 have carecy the talk station aviation expert Jay Ratliffe coming 384 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:50.559 up next. Love talking to Jay, and I hope you 385 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:52.319 enjoyed as much as I do. And I also love 386 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:55.640 referring my friends and listeners to Foreign Exchange because you're 387 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:57.559 going to save a heapload of money versus the dealer 388 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:01.039 when you have your traditionally imported are from Asia or 389 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:04.440 Europe or tesla. 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