1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:00,520 Speaker 1: Let's go. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Let's all start to you to presents. Off the bench 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,519 with Jacob Hester and t Bob Abert. 4 00:00:06,599 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 5 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:11,919 Speaker 2: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and se Bob Abert. 6 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: I gotta come off the bench. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:21,879 Speaker 2: Now here's Jacob Hester and t Bob Abert. Yeah. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: What's good and everybody? How's everybody doing this morning Tuesday? 9 00:00:27,839 --> 00:00:31,519 If you're having a great morning tea, Bob, Jake, Londre 10 00:00:31,559 --> 00:00:34,079 and Taylor all hanging out with you this morning. We 11 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:37,240 got a lot to get to a very full and 12 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:41,280 fun Tuesday show. So if you want to come be 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,520 a part of said show, YouTube dot com, Slash one, 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,079 O four five, ESPN, you can come chat, hang out 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,240 like button subbed all the various channels, and please the 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,399 algorithmic gods that increasingly rule our existence every single day. 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,399 What's going on, guys? How we feel on this Tuesday? Up? Jakie, 18 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:02,560 how we doing? How we living? Everything? Good? Yeah? Man? 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,959 Good over? We're excited for today's show. What's today? Today's Tuesday? Tuesday? Okay, 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,040 so we got coaching nick yep, yeah man, we got 21 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:14,400 we got we got a very full document this morning. 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,239 We are we are ready to go. We even Elandre 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,159 will be very pleased to see even in hour number 24 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:26,000 three have a projecting baseball starting lineup thanks to a 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,200 good breakdown in The Advocate by Kochie Riley, So shout 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,359 out to Coochie. We will get into some of that 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,799 very excited talk. Coach Molki is always and well. Tayte 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:42,719 was cackling yesterday like some sort of LP hyena as 29 00:01:42,719 --> 00:01:47,000 he was listening to Mickey Loomis and fact checking our boys. 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:53,480 So I'm very excited to see Taylor's rebuttal or response 31 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:55,719 to what Mickey Loomis laid out in a forty five 32 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:59,200 minute press conference that really did nothing for anyone in 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,760 terms of exciting. I don't know. 34 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:03,879 Speaker 3: With taitas team and a couple of things around that 35 00:02:03,959 --> 00:02:05,959 Cowboys news cycle, you better be careful. 36 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know when you used to play 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,840 a street fighter back in the day and you pick 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,599 up control and you press start and it's just like 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,280 a new challenger is enter the arena or whatever. That's uh, 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,639 that's Mike McCarthy for the Saints shop and he may 41 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:21,639 rocket to the front of the line, which leads us 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:30,280 to a really mental gymnastics filled future where you have 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Mike McCarthy and Derek Carr, two guys that feel awful, 44 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:39,400 but objectively their resumes are better than how you probably 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,560 feel about them. So and you just have to sit 46 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,439 there and tell yourself, well, I mean, look at the 47 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:49,080 wind lost record, you know, like Makey said, he's topped 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,800 ten and that's so I don't know. Well, we'll get 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,360 into all this and more throughout today's show a lot. 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,120 What's up, girl, what's up? 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 4: I'm very excited to hear what the projected roster is. 52 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:04,840 I would like to give a little projection before we 53 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,599 do the projection. 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect. I would love nothing, I want to guess it. 55 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:10,400 I would love nothing more to see where your head's 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,639 at compared to cookies. But yeah, great. 57 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: I feel like this week is already starting kind of 58 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:18,039 long for some reason. 59 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:18,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,479 Speaker 4: I think it's because I did the women's basketball game 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 last night. Usually, like you see the game, good game 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,199 made me a little nervous, Yeah, going into the half 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,400 and coming out of it. But I just think like 64 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:32,560 if something throws me off, or if I get home 65 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:34,840 a little later than usual, then it just like throws 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,400 my whole bedtime routine. 67 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 5: Yeah you know what I mean. 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,599 Speaker 1: Now, we're really getting into age right when routine becomes 69 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:44,919 the bedrock of your entire existence in anything that caused 70 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,599 you from devia from said, routine becomes a hassle that 71 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,520 you think about way more than you should. Yeah, ahead 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,039 of the fact. 73 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: I really do think about it before I know. 74 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: I know, and it's boilless because it's not that big 75 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:01,159 of a deal, really is you fret over? I feel 76 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:05,120 it because I do the same thing everybody does. Congratulations, 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,919 you're getting old er? Uh ta ta, what's up? Man? 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,080 How you how you feeling? They know more Mike McCarthy 79 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:13,080 in your life? You feel a good? Coach Prime on 80 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:15,319 the way, Let's go, Jack. 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 6: I uh, I guess I was tireder this morning. Then 82 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,560 I thought I forgot to put up the All Star 83 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:24,120 panel behind Teaba. But that's okay, we'll get it in 84 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:26,319 the next break. The Jake One's right. You know, I'm 85 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:28,839 sitting here and I'm like, man, we got everything done early, 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,360 and you know, sometimes. 87 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,519 Speaker 1: You just I always got him twisted up. 88 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,199 Speaker 6: It's just the emotions are in a flox and it's 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,000 got me flustered. 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: H Taylor. If they hire Coach Prime, will you still 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,759 be a Cowboys fan. 92 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 6: So we talked about this, uh shoot a couple of 93 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,920 months ago, and I said, no, so I will stand 94 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:47,240 by that. 95 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: Wow, talking about Taylor is talking about that. 96 00:04:53,519 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 7: Will break me. 97 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: I've held a Cowboys fan hood. If they make coach 98 00:04:56,959 --> 00:04:59,639 prime they coach, what if they end up being good 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,040 and then you would have the coolest coaching, they'd. 100 00:05:02,879 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 7: Be good teams. 101 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:07,319 Speaker 1: I don't like the gem City there cheering for the Titans. 102 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,519 I's gonna cheer for them, Like, how are you gonna like? 103 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,439 You know how painful it's gonna be if suddenly the 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,600 Cowboys are good and Dion's cool and you're out here 105 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:22,480 because of some weird uh stance that you've taken where 106 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,639 you have completely written off the team that you grew 107 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,120 up professing to love. It's it's playing a dangerous game, Sharpe. 108 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 7: No, I'm not. 109 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,959 Speaker 6: It's not just no, I'm not. It's not just one move. 110 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,199 But uh, that would just be the final thing. Like 111 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:40,160 I'm just just okay, I'm almost already there. If the 112 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:42,399 Dion hire would almost be irrelevant at this point, I'm 113 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:44,399 almost already there and we'll see. 114 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: Well, uh, let's go ahead and to talk a little 115 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,279 NFL playoffs and get this show started. 116 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:52,759 Speaker 2: It's time to get to work courtesy of Tiger Labor 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,000 and Staffing where they can help take care of screening, training, 118 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:57,120 payroll and more. 119 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,079 Speaker 1: Now for starters, Tiger Labor It's having provides a livele 120 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:04,920 local staving solutions for warehouse, construction and manufacturing positions. So 121 00:06:05,519 --> 00:06:08,000 whether you need help with temporary labor or long term hires, 122 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,920 we got you covered with skilled, dependable workers. 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And look, 131 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:44,360 this is a Rams team that, if you look at 132 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,839 the year as a whole, the ten and seven record 133 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:51,920 would not be really indicative of what the Vikings were 134 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,120 playing yesterday. This is a team that started one in four. 135 00:06:55,879 --> 00:07:01,079 You know how extra normal it is, how it is 136 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,519 to dig a one and four hole and end up 137 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:05,639 in the playoffs. That means that at the end of 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,199 the year, this team was playing as well as any 139 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:10,279 team in the entire NFL. They finished the season nine 140 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:10,720 to three. 141 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:11,439 Speaker 6: Uh. 142 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: They they've been getting increasingly healthier as the year has 143 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,600 gone on, and they entered the playoffs again as good 144 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:22,920 as any team. And you saw it last night, and 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,839 really there's Look, well let's start with the Rams. They 146 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:27,959 won the game, even though I think the more interesting 147 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:32,240 conversation outside looking at maybe by the Vikings and Donald. 148 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,240 But Jake, what did you think about the Rams that 149 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:39,160 that that great d line with Jared Vers on there 150 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:45,720 and coming up with nine sacks last night? On Sam Darnold. 151 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking before the show before you came in. 152 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:52,319 Speaker 1: The ghosts that Sam Donald saw in New York. They're 153 00:07:52,399 --> 00:07:53,480 back again, I know. 154 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:58,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ghostbusters couldn't help him out last night. He 155 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:00,920 was holding onto the football for so long he would 156 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:02,399 even twitch like he was going to. 157 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,199 Speaker 1: Release it and just wouldn't do it. 158 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: Now, I'm not saying every sack was on him, but 159 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,319 I would say a majority of them were on Sam 160 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:11,360 Darnald not getting the ball out of his hands and 161 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:13,800 like you go back, you watch the end zone copy. 162 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,600 He had open receivers, he had opportunities to let the 163 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,720 football go, and he just didn't trust himself again, And 164 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:21,759 it is wild. And I don't know if the Lions 165 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:24,639 game broke him, but he was not the same guy 166 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:27,319 that he was all season long. And you know when 167 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,079 you when you have a situation like that and your 168 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,840 main player, your main focus, your quarterback is off, and 169 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:36,960 your quarterback's not playing the way that he did in 170 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,559 the playoffs, you're gonna have a game that ends up 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,679 twenty seven to nine. 172 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:44,799 Speaker 1: It's pretty wild. I guess let's just talk about Sam Darnald, 173 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:47,440 even though I mean, look, yes, the the La Rams, 174 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,200 I think a legitimate contender in the NFC. They seem 175 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,960 to have all the Elmans, have a veteran quarterback that 176 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,120 you know is capable when set row, he's already won one. 177 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,399 They have very good, healthy weapons right now and cup Nikua, 178 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,960 and they have a defense that is playing lights out 179 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,799 and continue to play better better, and that are young 180 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:11,080 and hungry. So the Rams a legitimate who broken dinner 181 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,320 at a time when they're sitting in their home town 182 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,360 desperately needs them and I think it's very easy to 183 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,840 empathize and appreciate with what the Rams did for their 184 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:25,679 fan base last night, and it's great to see from 185 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,039 afar and to cheer on. But narratively, from a sports 186 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,440 talk perspective, the Sam Darnold piece is the most interesting 187 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:43,480 piece because it's it confuses you as to how to evaluate. 188 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:46,799 It reminds me of everything you hear about reputation when 189 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:49,320 you're growing up right, it takes a lifetime to build 190 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,679 a second to tear down right, you can build a 191 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,159 million bridges in your life. Nobody call you a bridge building. 192 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,279 You hang out with Tata once and you're a loser. 193 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:03,480 So here's Sam Arnold. Is he throws for over forty 194 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,279 three hundred yards and thirty five touchdowns? Do you know 195 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,399 how hard that is? How many four thousand and thirty 196 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,600 five touchdown seasons have there been in NFL history? It's 197 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:20,960 not a lot, and Sam Darnold is now on that list. Like, 198 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:24,000 is it possible to look as bad as he did 199 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:26,080 in the battle for the one seed and the playoff 200 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,000 game last night but still be that same guy? Is 201 00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:33,279 it possible to be a backup and do that? Tay Ten? 202 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, jamis Winston did it five thousand yards over thirty touchdowns. 203 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: I guess true, but with thirty with thirty plus picks, 204 00:10:42,159 --> 00:10:43,679 and at the time he was in a backup and 205 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,639 he would go on to start for years after that. 206 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,039 But again here it is, He's finds his whole season 207 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,159 playing well, but then with the one seed on the line, 208 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:55,679 you get dominated and last thing you can dominate. It's 209 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,559 like you said, too, Jacob's not like you can point 210 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,559 the finger either. He had a combined twenty three off 211 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,840 target throws the last two games last night alone. You 212 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,000 mentioned him holding onto the ball forever, so he got 213 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,679 sacked nine times, a ties NFL record. That eighty two 214 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,039 yards is an NFL postseason record. But he held on to 215 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,200 the ball in the sacks or an average of four 216 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,679 point seven three seconds. Do you know how long four 217 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:26,440 point seven seconds is in the pocket. It might as 218 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,279 well be an eternity. I mean, a great quarterbacks getting 219 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:31,840 it out in like two to two and a half. 220 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:34,879 So Breeze used to do a company like four point 221 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,799 seven to three. Also, Ever since that seventy week to 222 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,600 seventeen game against the Packers, the Vikings twenty one consecutive 223 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,279 drives without a touchdown, so it didn't just I mean, 224 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:53,679 this is truly the most visceral clock struck midnight turned 225 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,559 back into a pumpkin situation that I have maybe ever 226 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,840 seen in athletics, because I do you do not understand 227 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:03,200 how you could be good enough to put up the 228 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:06,440 numbers that you did, get hoisted on your shoulders on 229 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,759 the on the shoulders of your teammates in week seventeen 230 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,279 and then be where you are now just a couple 231 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:12,879 weeks later. 232 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, unfortunately for him, he just lost 233 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,720 himself millions of dollars. And it is wild to say 234 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,639 because it's like, hey, body of work, and I want 235 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:24,120 to fight that good fight for him as well. But 236 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,559 when you needed him the most week seventeen or seventeenth game, 237 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,720 Week eighteen against the Detroit Lions competition that was right 238 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:35,559 there with you, same record, you didn't show up. Okay, 239 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Lions are hot, tough. 240 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Game, move on. 241 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,519 Speaker 3: Well, then you had this performance again and you probably 242 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,679 went from making a Baker Mayfield type contract too. 243 00:12:47,759 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: Now it's like, are you going to find a starting spot? Yeah? 244 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:52,000 Even not even be back there. 245 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,399 Speaker 3: And I think it made the Vikings decision because it 246 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,240 was going to be awkward. You had JJ McCarthy, you 247 00:12:56,279 --> 00:12:58,399 got a first round pick, and what do we do. 248 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:00,159 Do we bring back Sam Darnold? Do we have have 249 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,799 jjbur starting quarterback? And this sounds wild because it's a 250 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:05,879 two game sample size, and I want to go back 251 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:07,399 to all the things that you just laid out all 252 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,879 over four thousand yards in thirty five. But I think 253 00:13:10,919 --> 00:13:13,559 because of these last two performances now it makes the 254 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:15,000 Vikings job much easier. 255 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if he's back, I mean they're definitely 256 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,320 going with JJ. Maybe they bring him back if they 257 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,080 think he could be that veteran backup that they had 258 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:26,279 kind of originally envisioned. To me, think you'll get a 259 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,320 starting opportunity still, tee you think. I don't think it's. 260 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: Going to be at that Baker Mayfield price thirty million 261 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,480 per year. 262 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: I wonder where he could potentially, I mean, if we 263 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,559 pulled up you know, the NFL quarterbacks Truss started because 264 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:42,360 not just these games, Jake, but because O'Connell is viewed 265 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,000 as such a I mean, look what happened to Cousins 266 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:48,720 when he got away from Jefferson and O'Connell. And now 267 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:51,399 look at like it's just to me, real hard for 268 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,559 him to get the credit that, oh this is you. 269 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,200 I mean, you know who did it was Geno Smith, 270 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,480 which is kind of crazy that Geno found a way. 271 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:00,960 I mean it's been multiple coaches now were Gino's proven. No, 272 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,639 something clicked and I'm a good I'm a legitimate NFL 273 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,519 starting quarterback now after last night, Yeah, it's real hard 274 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:08,440 to think that Sam Darnell could do the same. 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,919 Speaker 3: All right, So if you're sitting there and you're looking around, 276 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,360 it's like, okay, who would take a chance on a quarterback? 277 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,600 And there's still some teams out there that maybe if 278 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:19,600 they don't draft a quarterback, maybe they don't get the 279 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:22,960 quarterback in the draft they want. The Giants kind of 280 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,000 come to mind, the Raiders come to mind, Tennessee's probably 281 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,039 going to get their quarterback. 282 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: The Browns come to mind Deshaun Watson. You know, yea 283 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:33,039 Tour's Achilles even talk about that. That's crazy. Jets. Who 284 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:34,519 knows what happens with Aaron Rodgers. 285 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:36,679 Speaker 3: So there will he always said, Jets just to me, 286 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,159 ghosts don't He don't want to relive that again. But 287 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,039 there's still gonna be some opportunities for him. But it 288 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,000 is wild that you can have that many, really sixteen 289 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,240 games where you're fourteen and two, you're fourteen. 290 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:50,759 Speaker 1: To two, and then you lost the next two. 291 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: And you can lose that much money and lose that 292 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,519 much equity that you built up and you had finally 293 00:14:57,519 --> 00:14:59,960 made it. You were this top ten pick and you 294 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,639 you finally found the right system, you found the right coach. 295 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:06,000 Everything was going just how you would want it, like 296 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:08,879 if you were writing a book like finally the Fairy 297 00:15:08,879 --> 00:15:13,639 Tales here and it's all gone. That's just unfortunately, that's 298 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:14,639 how the NFL is. 299 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:21,159 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like you lost the games playing well, hey, 300 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,600 if you lose a game, it was you're good, it 301 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:26,799 was on you. It was all on you. Four point 302 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,279 seven one seconds. That is seeing ghosts. 303 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: And some people are going to box score read this 304 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,600 game and be like, oh, offensive line must have been horrid. 305 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: Maybe two of those. 306 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:41,519 Speaker 3: Sacks t were like kind of like right now pressures. Yeah, 307 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,600 there was a couple that it was egregiously bad. 308 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:48,279 Speaker 1: How long Sam Darnold held them to the football. 309 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: And if if I'm an offensive lineman like that, that's 310 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,399 as frustrating as anything. 311 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,279 Speaker 1: And you cante that more than that it's the worse. 312 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,000 I mean, you know I always said that, like, yeah, 313 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:02,720 well we all know that a quarterbacks or no alignment's 314 00:16:02,759 --> 00:16:04,960 best friends of quarterback that gets rid of the ball. 315 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,200 But there's a reason why the Saints thought for probably 316 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:10,840 five years they could get away with just not paying 317 00:16:10,879 --> 00:16:13,120 any alignment, like, oh, we can just kind of have 318 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,200 whoever in there. And eventually they went too far with 319 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,519 that and they had to do the Jimmy Graham for 320 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:22,039 Max Hunger trade. But yeah, it's you can't block that long. 321 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:24,200 You can't block that long. I mean again, four point 322 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,519 seven seconds might as well be war in piece. Every 323 00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:32,240 time you drop that. I mean it's it's a Lord 324 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,600 of the Rings extended edition, but not even a single movie. 325 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:38,440 It's doing a full extend edition trilogy. Rewatch, every single 326 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:39,879 time you drop back to throw the ball. 327 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: H that's double what the average, which is, Yeah, it's insane, 328 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:46,080 literally double. That's like somebody run in a four seven 329 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 forty back there in the pocket. 330 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,559 Speaker 1: If you think about it, that's crazy. You know, it 331 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:52,200 takes a long time when you think about it from 332 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,679 that perspective. Yeah, all right, when we get back here 333 00:16:54,679 --> 00:16:58,120 on OTB, Mickey Loomits met with a meeting for forty 334 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,720 five empty minutes yesterday and dayte It's gonna keep them 335 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:07,279 on us. Next here on off the bench, Off the bench, 336 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:11,160 go to main event of Better Rush. Guys, you're looking 337 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,759 for some fun. 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Main 355 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:07,519 Event dot. 356 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 8: Com, Donatown. 357 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,799 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around sort of. 358 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:30,519 It's off the bench with Hester and t Bob Black. 359 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 8: Here Man go Dance, She dancers Long as fun. 360 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: Please, what's up y'all? Welcome back O TV, Rolling rad Alo, 361 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,200 see Bob, Jake alone, Vireal and hanging out with you. 362 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:54,680 And it's time to talk about Mickey Loomis. You met 363 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,480 with the media yesterday forty five minutes and again, as 364 00:18:58,519 --> 00:19:03,079 I said, Taylor, we should have given him his own 365 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,640 room in a fresh bottle of lotion, knowing that he 366 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,039 had forty five minutes with which to chew, apart and 367 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,119 dissect every all the gas slighting that Mickey Loomis was 368 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,920 going to attempt to pull on the City of New 369 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:19,920 Orleans and the hoot at Nation. Taylor, you have been 370 00:19:20,039 --> 00:19:22,880 in the research reads. I'm going to let you lead 371 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:26,039 this segment, so ta ta take it away away. 372 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 7: I don't want to. I was told you this before 373 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:28,519 the show. 374 00:19:28,559 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 6: I don't want to make it look like I'm taking 375 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:33,160 things out of context and not telling the full story. 376 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,720 So I do want to hear it from Mickey Lewis first, up. 377 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,920 He talks about how you know, they were asking about 378 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,599 the upcoming draft and his position, which he couldn't remember 379 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,759 that he was a ninth position, which Jesus, But he 380 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:45,559 said he would love more draft picks. 381 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 5: Oh, I'd always take more draft picks if we could 382 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,720 get him. But look, I like, I like where we're at, 383 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,640 and I like I like our history of drafting too. 384 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,880 I think we've got a really good history of drafting. 385 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: Again. 386 00:19:56,519 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 5: You know, when you have a new coaching staff, now 387 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:02,519 you've got to you know, reak, calibrate, and adjust not 388 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,480 the evaluation process but what you're looking for. 389 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: And so that's going to be a lot of work. 390 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 5: You know, once we get a coaching staff hired to 391 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,519 make sure that we're on the same page relatives to 392 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:15,640 the types of players, of the types, but the things 393 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,680 that they want the players to do, and making sure 394 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,599 that we're bringing guys that can do what they need. 395 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: Always take more draft picks. 396 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, I would love more draft picks as well. 397 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,279 Mickey Loomis has traded up in the draft twenty six 398 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,400 times since he's been the GM of the New Orleans Saints. 399 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:37,680 Do we know how many times he's traded back to 400 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:38,960 acquire more picks. 401 00:20:39,759 --> 00:20:42,599 Speaker 1: I do. He's never done it. Zero Loomis has. 402 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:44,559 Speaker 6: Never traded back in the draft to acquire more picks 403 00:20:44,599 --> 00:20:47,559 and actively gives them away. So that's a lie. That's 404 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,279 lie number one. 405 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:51,279 Speaker 1: But oh and it was thrown out so casually. 406 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,599 Speaker 3: And since he's been GM, he has the least amount 407 00:20:54,599 --> 00:20:58,079 of draft choices in the NFL of any team because 408 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,519 they can. 409 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: Trade it up more than once a year. And when 410 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:04,920 you trade up, you give up pigs. Yeah, I mean, 411 00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:09,279 that's the wild part is it's a lie thrown out 412 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,319 there with with such a complacence, is just kind of 413 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:16,599 like yeah, whatever. But so not only is it a lie, 414 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,519 it's like so clearly a lie thrown out there and 415 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:22,480 thinking I'll just accept it, but it's a lie in 416 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:26,079 which he speaks to a truth that he doesn't believe, 417 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,680 but he's kind of telling you is a commonly accepted truth, 418 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,799 which is more draft picks are better. You know what 419 00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:35,000 I'm saying? Am I explain this correctly? Saying like you said, like, yeah, 420 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,359 everybody want more draft picks? What that's not? But you 421 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,039 know you can't say that, like yes, we all agree 422 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:43,759 to everybody else has been saying that is not how 423 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:46,880 you have been operating. So that's not true, Mickey. Yeah 424 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,119 you don't believe that. Yeah, no, exactly, you know we 425 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,079 all do, but you don't. You don't get to say 426 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:54,000 what we believe in act like you believe it too. 427 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:57,480 No actions, you know, your action speaks so loud. I 428 00:21:57,519 --> 00:21:58,400 can't hear what you're saying. 429 00:21:58,519 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: That's that's like the to me of like I am 430 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,960 telling you what you want to hear. Yes, yes, that's 431 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,319 always that's the only thing that is like when you 432 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,359 can go back and you can check the facts and 433 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,240 you can see who's traded back, who's traded up, who's 434 00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:15,599 drafted who? How many draft choices have you have? Well, 435 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,599 you're dead last since you've taken over the team. And 436 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,039 I'm not saying like because he's so long tenured, no, 437 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,519 from the year that he started with the Saints. 438 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: No franchise. Yeah, it's a franchise, Dad, It's just that 439 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,960 he is looking at individual gs right than the Saints 440 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,880 have right now. It's it's got to be frustrating for 441 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,440 the reporter that asked a question too, because I've run 442 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,079 into this back in the day with interviewing political people, 443 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,039 where you know, the facts, you have them, you know, 444 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,960 lined up, and they just lie and you can't really 445 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,640 do anything about it. It's like, well that's not really 446 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,640 the point is you obviously don't like draftics. 447 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 6: Okay, anyway, well he moved on from the draft because 448 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,759 somebody asked him about, hey, you know your cap space. 449 00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:01,160 What's the issue here? If you don't get the draft 450 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,119 pick that you want, what are you going to do 451 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,839 in free agency? And Mickey Loomis address their cap situation. 452 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: You can't just say. 453 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 5: Hey, here's the number, here's there over and that's a disaster. 454 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Right. 455 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 5: We've got the most players under contract of any team. Yes, 456 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:16,759 we're over, but there's a lot of teams below us 457 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:19,400 that have you know, we've got sixty one players under 458 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,119 contract right now, and there's teams that have cap room. 459 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,599 Speaker 1: But they've got thirty eight or thirty six. So it's 460 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:25,160 a collective. 461 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,839 Speaker 5: You know, how much guaranteed is out there, how much 462 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,599 is the acceleration that exists? You know, who are the 463 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,680 players they have under country? There's so many elements. I'm 464 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,319 pretty comfortable with where we're at. I'm comfortably uncomfortable. So 465 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,200 you know, it's something we have to manage. And but 466 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,839 there's a lot of teams that have to manage their 467 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,279 cap that way, and some of the ones that don't 468 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:47,759 are going to have to at some point. So, you know, 469 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:48,839 I feel okay about. 470 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:49,039 Speaker 1: Where we're at. 471 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 5: I think we're making progress from where we've been the 472 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:55,039 last few years, you know that, So I'm feeling better 473 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:55,400 about it. 474 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 6: He's right about what Dane guys. Every team has to 475 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,599 manage their caps, and every team finds a way to 476 00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:05,480 do it drastically better than Mickey Loomis. Sure, sixty one 477 00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:09,480 players under contract, negative sixty million dollars in cap space, 478 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,519 but Cleveland, the next closest team in the NFL in 479 00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:16,799 terms of cap hill only twenty five million dollars in 480 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:20,000 the hole. So you've more than doubled the next closest team. 481 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,880 And he wants to talk about the teams that don't 482 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,000 have anybody under contract. The San Francisco forty nine ers 483 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:28,599 currently have fifty nine players under contract, and they're big spence. 484 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: I rein that they were at sixty one, but anyway, 485 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,000 it doesn't matter. 486 00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 7: They're big spenders too. 487 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 6: I mean, you have Christian McCaffrey, you have George Kittle, 488 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,400 you have Debo, you have Iu you have all the 489 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,720 Trent Williams. All these guys are like top five highest 490 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,359 paid at their position. The San Francisco forty nine ers 491 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,400 currently have almost forty eight million dollars in cap space. Yeah, 492 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,960 a forty eight million, and you have two players difference, 493 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:49,839 and you have three players that are the highest paid 494 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,519 at their position. 495 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: And let's also say, Mickey, you got sixty one. It's 496 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,960 not all that difference, isn't all in quarterback? Just because 497 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480 brock Perty is still the chief contract, Like you could 498 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:02,559 comfortably fit brock Per, but he's a giant contract in there, 499 00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:03,839 and you'd still be familiar. 500 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,839 Speaker 1: Get me right, of the cap. 501 00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,839 Speaker 3: You've got sixty one players, Mickey, that you're tatting out there, 502 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,160 But twenty one are UFL players, And I'm not trying 503 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,839 to hate on them. 504 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to throw shade. That's just what it is. 505 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: Sure, who got about twenty one of those sixty one 506 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:19,640 that are UFL players that you sign off the street 507 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,119 this year? 508 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,759 Speaker 1: I mean wrong? No, no, no, I mean right, correct. 509 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:27,720 I mean you look at the rosters more gaslight. 510 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: You could pick twenty one players, I bet you that 511 00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,759 are fringe in FL players. 512 00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 6: Speaking of that, Jake Mickey Limis gave his thoughts on 513 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,319 the twenty twenty four roster, and he doesn't agree with you. 514 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,319 Speaker 5: That's part of what, you know, part of what we 515 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,759 haven't done yet is really look back and evaluate a 516 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,720 rap from a personnel standpoint. 517 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: Obviously, this is a tough season, not what we expected. 518 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: You know, what jumps out is the amount of injuries, 519 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,640 and we've got to do a deep dive into that. 520 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,559 You know, are there things that are preventable? Are there 521 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:03,400 things that we missed in the evaluation process for example, 522 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,799 So all that is work that needs to be done. 523 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:08,920 You know, rebuild, as it means different things to different people. 524 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,200 I think that you can turn around a season pretty 525 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,279 quickly in the NFL. We've seen it with other teams. 526 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,680 And there's a lot of good things on our roster, 527 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,519 and there's some things that we need to adjust and 528 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,920 fill in. Part of that is going to be the 529 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,319 viewpoint and the vision that the new head coach has. 530 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: A lot of. I don't know where a lot of 531 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,720 the positives on the roster would be as far as 532 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:36,680 injuries go. That is a bit of a uncomfortable truth, 533 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,279 but it's been their history though well it's it's a 534 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:45,359 deal where yes, there's it's multifaceted, right, where the Saints 535 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,680 injured to an extreme amount this year, even more so 536 00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:52,000 than recent years. Yes, was that a situation exacerbated however 537 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,480 by a poorly constructed roster? I would say also, yes, 538 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,160 And then there's just a weird element of remember when 539 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,599 Darren Rizzy was like, Hey, remember guys, that added dynamic 540 00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:05,039 warm up and hamstring's gonna way, So like, what are 541 00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:09,519 we doing? And then you also have the added spice 542 00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:12,559 in the mixture of Oh, the Pelicans are also the 543 00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:14,880 most injured team in the planet, So what the hell 544 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,599 is going on in airline drive? I don't so it 545 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:24,880 is a very multifaceted discussion, but he seems to be 546 00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,880 using it as a get out of jail free card 547 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,200 for what is a poorly constructed overall fifty three man ross. 548 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 6: Well, it's a crap excuse because he wants to talk 549 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,759 about all the injuries. Tampa Bay Buccaneers won the NFC South. 550 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,079 They didn't have Chris Godwin for most of the year. 551 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,079 They didn't have most of their second Dear. Yeah, three 552 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,400 weeks ago, the Detroit Lions had twenty one players on 553 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,319 ILR Guess what. They're the one seeds. The Chiefs no 554 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,880 Rashi Rice all year, no Isaiah Pacheco all year, multiple 555 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,319 d line injuries. Signed Hollywood Brown in the offseason. 556 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 7: He didn't play. Guess what, They're also the one seed. 557 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 6: This is Mickey Loomis's fault because he doesn't have anybody. 558 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,359 We talked about it with UH, with Chris Olave and 559 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,559 Rashid jahat Out. We were like, oh, the receiver loom 560 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,400 looks bad. That's because you only had two Adams. 561 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had already looked awful before, right, it was 562 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:12,000 already like a glaring weakness before. Again, it's a it's 563 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:16,960 a bad roster. They got exacerbated by a rash of injuries. 564 00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:21,559 And the problem is if you use those injuries. And 565 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,480 I hope they're not doing this internally. I hope this 566 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:26,279 is just all trying to, you know, please the shareholders. 567 00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:29,640 But the problem is if you're really telling yourself, no, no, 568 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,240 the roster was fine. We just got unlucky. That's the 569 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,640 danger in this conversation. 570 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 7: You're talking about bad roster. 571 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,279 Speaker 6: We were talking yesterday about all the players that had 572 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:43,599 left New Orleans and like had success elsewhere. 573 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 7: Somebody asked them about Zach Bonn. Well, look, it's. 574 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:49,599 Speaker 5: Not something that you like, that's for sure, but I 575 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,079 understand the circumstances behind it. Look, we tried to sign 576 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,440 you know, Zach Bond, but he was looking for, you know, 577 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:57,960 opportunity to get more playing time and under the last 578 00:28:58,119 --> 00:28:59,960 you know system, that wasn't gonna be as life. 579 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,279 Speaker 1: So look, I'm. 580 00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:04,759 Speaker 5: Excited that we drafted those players and they've had success. 581 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,799 They were identified as talented players. But obviously it's not 582 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,880 great when they go and have success someplace else. That 583 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,759 hasn't happened a lot in our tenure here, but it 584 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:16,440 does happen, and no different than when we get somebody 585 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,079 from another team and they have success. Sometimes it's circumstantial, 586 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,599 but no, when you draft good players, you want to 587 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,039 keep them. 588 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,079 Speaker 6: It has happened a lot, actually because Zach Bonne was great, 589 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,920 But Trey Hendrickson led the NFL in sacks this year. 590 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,839 Speaker 7: That's a guy you let walk out of your building. 591 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,039 Speaker 6: Alex Anzeloni looked like a stud when he came back 592 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:37,519 from injury for the Detroit Lions. Cayden Ellis for your rival, 593 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,759 the Atlanta Falcons one hundred and fifty one tackles in 594 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:43,880 five sacks, CJ. Gardner Johnson third in the NFL, and 595 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,720 interceptions this year. As a matter of fact, he's had 596 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:47,839 thirteen over the past three years. Since you let him 597 00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,480 walk and he goes, well, it's no different than when 598 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,440 we signed players from other teams. Okay, here's the guys 599 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160 you've signed from other teams that have been good to 600 00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:57,200 Mario Davis. 601 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hall of Fames. 602 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 7: That's it. Am I missing an? What else we got? Guys? 603 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,200 You got Tomorrio Davis. That's it. 604 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you the bad contracts. 605 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,119 Speaker 3: I don't know about any more good ones as far 606 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,359 as like that impactful like Marcus May comes to mind. 607 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,799 Speaker 1: With the bad I'm trying to think of. He's on 608 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,599 practice squad. I'm trying to complete the Tata challenge and 609 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,480 find one other good free agent. There's one that we're missing. 610 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,559 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not Foster's been all Rightster's been all 611 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,319 right for sure. That's probably for what you pay him. 612 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But I see what you're saying. 613 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: The fact that we're sitting here and we're like. 614 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,599 Speaker 6: Uh, like we can we can rattle off and those 615 00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:37,240 were just I mean, the guys that left that were 616 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,599 good in other places those are just. 617 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: A bad I mean, look, I love Jamal Williams. That's 618 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,440 a bad signing signing for twelve million dollars Cedric Wilson. 619 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 7: Remember, we were all excited about him being the wide receis. 620 00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: I was not excited about about mouth again, depressing, depressing, 621 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,480 breakdown there. 622 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: Think about the money you gave Marcus May, like you 623 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,079 gave him big time money. 624 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was on. Marcus May was on. Well. 625 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,599 I was still blame Jerris Bird on Sean Payton or 626 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:09,359 at least covering the Saints at WWL. 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Yeah, Chase Dubb says Chase Young. No, 638 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Chase Young was so forgettable this year, Honey Badger, Sure tiring, 639 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,039 might might be. 640 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I considered him, but yeah, uh all right, let's 641 00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:58,039 go to break. 642 00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:02,279 Speaker 1: Do you have any more Mickey on the other side? Okay, yeah, well, 643 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:05,559 I mean we'll see. Okay, great, you know, don't communicate it, sure, perfect, 644 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,880 Okay when we get back more off the bench. Off 645 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,039 the bench, Get Gordon, get it done. Trying to teach 646 00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:16,440 it that segment, Taylor, Get Gordon to day two to five, 647 00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:19,039 eight eight, eight eighty eight eighty eight. 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In the community, 663 00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:03,880 it's always at good Gordon to see what they're doing 664 00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:06,720 there on Facebook, other social media is and then your 665 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,119 area code in Louisiana fall about eighty eight eighty eight 666 00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:15,359 eighty eight, Good Gordon and get it done. 667 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: What back to sports talk? 668 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: Maybe off the bench? 669 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: What happened to y'all? Welcome back to OTB to you 670 00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:31,519 have JAKEO Londra Tatay hanging out with you today today. 671 00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,039 I hope everybody's having a good one this morning. We 672 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,400 Taity is doing the Lord's work right now as he 673 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,519 is advocating for the hoot At Nation. He is fighting 674 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,319 against the gaslighting of Mickey Loomis and what he's attempting 675 00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,759 to pull the wool over your eyes with Taty. What 676 00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:50,440 do we have next? 677 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 6: Somebody asked him about something that you guys have talked 678 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,279 about a lot. 679 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:55,599 Speaker 7: On this show. 680 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 6: Moving on from the Sean Payton era, and Mickey says 681 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,839 that it's not an issue. 682 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that I would agree with that. 683 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,440 I mean, I understand the connection between Shawn and Dennis, 684 00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,239 but we had a lot of different staff you know, changes, 685 00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:14,559 coaching changes. Look, two of the most successful turnarounds in 686 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:19,280 recent times are Detroit and Denver. Well, both of those 687 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,639 staffs are pretty well connected to New Orleans. So I'm 688 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,880 not sure what the criticism would be about or understand 689 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,239 what the Those are successful programs right that had a 690 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,239 lot of basis here, So I'm not sure what that 691 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,480 means necessarily. 692 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: Well, if we go back to our triumvirate triumvirant comparison, 693 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,480 the problem is, Mickey, in one of those, it's because 694 00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:46,159 Julius Caesar, the head coach, directly is the guy who 695 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,000 left and left you because he was tired of being here. 696 00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,880 But like, so you don't get to claim credit for 697 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,239 the man who was the architect while he was here. 698 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,239 Now that he's left, you've shown that you were not 699 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,480 responsib well he was, and the other she is the 700 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,000 other guy you're referencing. You let walk, you let out 701 00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:08,360 the building, so you chose wrong. It's like is it 702 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,039 crusade he chose poorly when he drinks out of the 703 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,760 wrong cup and then his face melts. Yeah, you chose 704 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:22,280 Dennis Allan over Dan Campbell and Aaron Glynn and Aaron Glynn. 705 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,519 So again, it's not to say that it's not You 706 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,880 don't get to take credit for Sean Payton having here 707 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,400 and then going and having success in Denver, because that 708 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,039 is Sean Payton. You don't get to claim anything with 709 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:43,760 Dan Campbell. You asked, ain't never been up to Detroit. 710 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,199 You didn't build that culture. 711 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 3: You had him in your building for multiple years, and 712 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,480 you didn't identify the leadership skills that he had. Yeah, 713 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,440 that's on you. You don't get to take credit for 714 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:04,239 anything that happens there. The loser franchise that Dan Campbell 715 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,360 completely turned around and you didn't identify that. 716 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:12,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, Actually it's it's a negative for you. It ain't 717 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:13,159 a positive. 718 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,679 Speaker 6: Speaking of loser franchises. Someone asked, you know, Mickey about 719 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,480 five and twelve, like admitting there's a problem. 720 00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 5: That's admitting a problem, absolutely, But that isn't just the coach. 721 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,360 You know, that's Hey, we got to look at ourselves, 722 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,840 you know, I got to look at the way you 723 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,719 know I'm operating, and I got to look at the 724 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,440 way that all of us in football operations are operating 725 00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:39,320 all the way down to, like I said, the injury issue, right, 726 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,760 you know, all the things that contribute to a successful program, 727 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,639 you have to evaluate and make sure that it doesn't mean, 728 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,800 by the way, because the results aren't what we want, 729 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,000 doesn't mean that we're doing something wrong. There may be 730 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,400 some circumstantial things here, but we have to look at 731 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,400 all of it and be honest with ourselves. Hey, we 732 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,840 didn't do a good job in that area. We got 733 00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,360 to do better. 734 00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: How can we do better? 735 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 5: What are the specific things that we can address that? 736 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is beyond the pale. So you just 737 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:14,800 tried to tell me that results. Be damned. Being five 738 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,679 and twelve doesn't mean you did anything wrong. It was 739 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,400 out of your control. It happened to you, not because 740 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:32,360 of you. This is classic narcissistic evidence. Be damned, my 741 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,440 way is correct. Everything just unlucky is happening to me, 742 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,480 and so my way is not working. That's a wild, 743 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,159 wild statement to be putting out there. I don't care 744 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,440 if you go five and twelve, but the pride to 745 00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,840 not be willing to admit how you got there is 746 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,440 a real problem. 747 00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: This man acts like two thousand and nine was three 748 00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:59,800 years ago too. Yeah, Like he acts like that super 749 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,719 was just a couple of I've had five children since 750 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,280 the last time you won the Super Bowl. 751 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: It's been a very long time, Mick. 752 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: That's not around the corner, but he acts like it is, 753 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,559 and like this arrogance that he has. 754 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Well, that line, that line about even though the results 755 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,320 were awful doesn't mean him were doing anything wrong, And 756 00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:25,840 that's insane. It's an insane thing to say that. That 757 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,079 is a lack of accountability at the very top. And 758 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:33,000 if we believe here in America, how we structure our 759 00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:36,679 organizations right where you have one guy at the top 760 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,039 a lot of times it's a very sort of monarchical 761 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,440 organizations that we run here. We believe that that kind 762 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,760 of stuff trickles down. So how is anybody else underneath 763 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,960 going to take accountability if the guy at the tip 764 00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,360 top refuses to do so? 765 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,039 Speaker 6: Look, before we got to break this, here might be 766 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,639 my favorite quote. Mickey Loomis had the entire press conference. 767 00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:58,760 Someone asked him about the coaching search and which makes 768 00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,960 the Saints job attractive. 769 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, look, we got the best professional 770 00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:06,920 sports league in the world, right, and there's thirty two 771 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,840 jobs and a. 772 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,159 Speaker 1: Lot of guys want to be head coached. 773 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:13,119 Speaker 5: So every job is attractive, they just are, including ours, 774 00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:15,639 And we have a lot of things to talk or 775 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:17,519 we have a great city, great fan base, we have 776 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:20,760 great ownership, we have had stability in our building for 777 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,159 a long long time, and I think we're viewed that way. 778 00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 6: No, we're in that answer. Does he explain how the 779 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,559 Saints job is attractive? You just said, well, it's the 780 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,880 NFL and every job's attracted. Yeah, thanks Mickey. 781 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: I okay, So I will say, if I wanted to 782 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:39,599 say one thing here, I do believe that the stability 783 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:44,599 is one of, if not the best trait that the 784 00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:47,599 Saints have going for them in a coaching search, because 785 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:50,400 Mickey Loomis is maybe the only GM that considered a 786 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,079 head coaching Canada and say hey, I'm unfireable and so 787 00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,039 I will have your back for X amount of time. 788 00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,320 I know we have ground to make up, but like 789 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,800 he is, he is one of the few GMS that 790 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,079 can sit there and say, look, this is how it's 791 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,880 gonna be, and you can actually believe that he will 792 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:14,079 likely be there for you, maybe unless he continues these 793 00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:16,880 press conferences. All right, let's go to break. When we 794 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,199 get back, we'll wrap up our one. 795 00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: Off the Bench. Welcome back to the ninth ranked morning 796 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,360 sports show in America. 797 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:41,159 Speaker 1: Off the Bench, You got ship, Follow you quarter Back 798 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:48,159 OTV might even listen to a little emotional DMB after 799 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,360 Mickey Jersey around in the manner that he has taytay 800 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:58,400 surely the quote about the results being bad but doesn't 801 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,320 mean you're doing anything wrong. That was the last one, right, 802 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:00,960 Are we done? 803 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, okay, that's it. 804 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,639 Speaker 1: I mean what a dismount from Mick. Absolutely insane, I 805 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,760 mean really crazy, Like I said, borderline narcissistic stuff. 806 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,039 Speaker 5: There. 807 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 4: You had a couple in the dock that I have 808 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:16,280 pulled up. I don't know if you want to go 809 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,400 over them or not. It was a Derek carr One 810 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,079 and then let me see. 811 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: Derek carr One just to trigger people. I mean it's 812 00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:27,599 might as well. 813 00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I have high high level of confidence in Derek. 814 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,599 You know, listen, he did some really good things here. 815 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:36,000 He has done some really good things here. If he 816 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,840 had qualified, which I'm not sure if he did. I 817 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,840 mean his quarterback rating would be in the top ten, 818 00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:44,840 interception rating would be in the top ten. Yeah, yards 819 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,639 per tamp would be in the top ten under some 820 00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:47,800 really tough circumstances. 821 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: And you don't have, you. 822 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,079 Speaker 5: Know, your top two receivers, and you don't have a 823 00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:53,840 special weapon in Taysom Hill, and we don't have the 824 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,199 middle portion of our offensive line, and we have a 825 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,280 rookie left tackle. There's some tough circumstances for a quarterback 826 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,840 to deal with. So I think he's done a lot 827 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,679 of really good things. 828 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,159 Speaker 4: This isn't like Schrodinger's quarterback like if he would. 829 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:13,639 Speaker 1: Have, is it. He's not wrong about the context surrounding 830 00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:19,559 Derek Carr, but it is very tone deaf to how 831 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,440 people feel about dere Carr. But this goes back to 832 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,559 what I'm talking about with Mike McCarthy. So, Mike McCarthy 833 00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:27,440 out as a Cowboys head coach. Remember when we talked 834 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,199 to Nick Underhill last week, he seemed to be insinuating 835 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,440 very heavily that Mike McCarthy was an uber real candidate 836 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,159 for the New Orleans Saints. And in fact, the Bears 837 00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:43,000 and the Saints are now going to interview McCarthy and 838 00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,400 I kind of feel McCarthy similarly about how I feel 839 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,519 about Derek Carr Jacer. Again, objectively, the resume is really good, 840 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,199 Like there's a lot, I mean, it's texticly beut Ivan 841 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,039 sim McCarthy's better than Carr in that regard, But the 842 00:42:55,079 --> 00:43:02,760 resume is really good. But he is deeply unexciting. And 843 00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:09,519 you want to talk about some real sicko NFL mental 844 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:13,880 health stuff. Go into a season knowing you're cheering for 845 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000 Mike McCarthy and Derek Carr to get it done. God, 846 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:24,079 that's crazy. That's crazy to me. You, I mean, you 847 00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:28,400 just need something completely different. You do, you don't need it. 848 00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:34,559 Speaker 3: And Mia McCarthy's resume outweighs Dennis Allen's by a thousand pounds. Yeah, 849 00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,800 oh no, no, I mean yeah, That's what I'm saying is 850 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,360 but this isn't really even against Mike McCarthy. 851 00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: This is against what the Saints have done in the past. 852 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,639 Speaker 3: You need somebody that is young, exciting, is going to bring. 853 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,599 Speaker 1: A different energy. You need something completely different than you just. 854 00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 3: Had, which is you know, reatrian head coach who failed 855 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,440 in the spot that he was in before and again 856 00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:01,199 by McCarthy's resume completely different than Dennis. He's won Super Bowls, 857 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,440 he's won playoff games. He even got the Cowboys to 858 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,679 the playoffs three times. 859 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: But I just don't know. 860 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 3: Now, there's some people out there like that are up 861 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,320 for this job that I still think I would take 862 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,199 Mike McCarthy over. But I think there's about five guys 863 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:16,639 that I would take before him as well. 864 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,519 Speaker 1: I mean I do only probably I only probably get 865 00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:24,800 to a couple guys before I would want my. 866 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,559 Speaker 3: Guys that you don't even have a chance with, like Benjon, 867 00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:27,719 like you don't have a chance with. Yeah, but I 868 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,400 would take him. 869 00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh So we'll see what ends up happening with McCarthy. 870 00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:37,440 But no, it is a very real possibility every role 871 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,280 with McCarthy car in the next season in the Super Dome. 872 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,039 You guys have no good Derek car is gonna be 873 00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:48,960 good this year for top twelve. He was top twelve 874 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,880 this year. It's gonna be in this toft the bench 875 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,760 top ten next year. 876 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 4: Guy. 877 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,079 Speaker 1: I mean, if Mike McCarthy's got you feeling a little lip, 878 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,639 go to Goodwood your good one dot Com. That entire 879 00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,760 press conference just gave me a rectile dysfunction. Uh, it sucks, 880 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,679 but I can feel it, you know, I know, I 881 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,760 just have nothing there anymore. 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