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Speaker 1: All right, so here we go. Do you want a
Speaker 1: better herd? Do you want a better deer herd? Well,
Speaker 1: I've got two guys that really specialize in managing deer
Speaker 1: herds and growing the biggest bucks possible. And one of
Speaker 1: them helps manage predator popular and the other one man,
Speaker 1: he's just a deer killer. We've got Colton Morris of
Speaker 1: the Coyote Academy. And who do you who? Mister Adam
Speaker 1: Weiss with us? All right, First, let's go over to
Speaker 1: Colton Morris. And if you guys don't know him, haven't
Speaker 1: seen his stuff on YouTube, go check him out at
Speaker 1: Coyote Academy. You're gonna like what you see there. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what he Every time I talk to this guy,
Speaker 1: he makes me want to go just kill every predator
Speaker 1: out there. Welcome in Colton.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, all right, buddy.
Speaker 1: Now, when I first brought up the topic, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: managing your deer herd, Like, you're the first guy that
Speaker 1: really you really, you and Adam are some of the
Speaker 1: first guys that came to mind when it talks about
Speaker 1: growing a herd. But you do it a little bit differently.
Speaker 1: You're not in it for managing herds. You're in for
Speaker 1: the predation, getting rid of those editors in order to
Speaker 1: grow those herds. So talk a little bit about like
Speaker 1: how you develop that and how you got into it.
Speaker 4: So this has been pretty much an ongoing thing for
Speaker 4: all of decades. But I really got into the predator
Speaker 4: side of it back in twenty seventeen after I got
Speaker 4: out of school. Excuse me, and I just I was
Speaker 4: enamored with coyotes, anything to do with coyotes, whether it
Speaker 4: was you know, trapping coyotes, and then it got into
Speaker 4: hunting coyotes. And to be honest with you, I didn't
Speaker 4: really see I didn't know how the impact was going
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 3: I guess I didn't have that forethought.
Speaker 4: And man, I started getting on with like all these
Speaker 4: guys that have these deer leases and they have twelve
Speaker 4: hundred and fifteen hundred acres and they're like, man, we
Speaker 4: used to get so many fonds on camera, we used
Speaker 4: to get you know, all this, we're not seeing any activity.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, you know, maybe we had EHD come through.
Speaker 4: We've had some other things come through, but what's one
Speaker 4: thing that you can definitely take care of or manage
Speaker 4: and that's the predators on the on the property that
Speaker 4: could be causing an effect to that herd or building
Speaker 4: a good herd. So I started and I've been trapping
Speaker 4: on this property since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: And the guy, the guy's son just killed a monster
Speaker 3: buck out there, so it so there was sweet.
Speaker 1: So it seems to me like the mortality rate of fawns,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously act a direct reflection of like
Speaker 1: that coyote pressure and putting pressure on those coyotes and
Speaker 1: getting them gone. I mean it seems like that's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's natural, right.
Speaker 4: But then you'll have the folks say, well, if you
Speaker 4: go in there and you start killing the coyotes, they're
Speaker 4: just going to.
Speaker 3: Multiply. You know, they're going to keep getting more and more.
Speaker 4: That's not so much the case if you can be
Speaker 4: on them, especially during like when they're dropping their fawns.
Speaker 4: So you know when the deer out there kind of
Speaker 4: getting that, you know, that whole process going because at
Speaker 4: the same time, you have coyotes that are starting to
Speaker 4: whelp their pups, so they've got to be feeding them constantly,
Speaker 4: and they you know, they get they get off of
Speaker 4: I guess the nipple or whatever you want to Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then they you know, they go to solids. So
Speaker 4: you see a you see a huge hit you know,
Speaker 4: in your small game even up to your some of
Speaker 4: your larger game.
Speaker 1: Well and it like so when they when those kyotes
Speaker 1: start coming off, coming off and eating solid foods, that's
Speaker 1: usually around the same time as those fawns start to develop,
Speaker 1: like they really start to develop and they're starting to
Speaker 1: you know, move around a little bit more. But you
Speaker 1: don't I haven't seen in my area. You do not
Speaker 1: see a whole lot of fawns anymore. I mean it's
Speaker 1: you know, you used to see like deer with like
Speaker 1: you know, twins or triplets, and now you really don't
Speaker 1: see a lot of that. It's it's singles here and
Speaker 1: singles there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, to kind of segue back to, you know,
Speaker 4: how did this all grow and become what it is now?
Speaker 4: It just it went from the point of me seeing
Speaker 4: like the success rate on this guy's property and another
Speaker 4: gentleman's property, and then you know, other guys are saying, man,
Speaker 4: this is really beneficial. And so it went from kind
Speaker 4: of just as becoming a hobby me doing it, you know,
Speaker 4: and then I was like, man, I can maybe start
Speaker 4: doing this full full time or at least seasonal right,
Speaker 4: And then you know, thankfully I've met some great contacts,
Speaker 4: some guys out west in Oklahoma and Texas, Kansas, and
Speaker 4: I go out there and I help manage their their
Speaker 4: issues too. So but I do that more so for
Speaker 4: the livestock side.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's a whole nother ballgame that's actually protecting investments.
Speaker 2: Right, you know. And I mean and so, but.
Speaker 1: So how did I guess? I guess where I want
Speaker 1: to go with this is when do you start and
Speaker 1: how many years does it take to start seeing a benefit?
Speaker 1: I mean, or if guys are like, you know what
Speaker 1: we need to start, you know, thenning out the herd
Speaker 1: as far as coyotes and predators are concerned, whether it's bobcats, coyotes,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. How what's the return rate on that? Like,
Speaker 1: how when should they start noticing a difference.
Speaker 4: So I went in back in twenty eighteen to the
Speaker 4: deer lease that I got hooked up with my buddy
Speaker 4: Seth now and twenty eighteen, I went in on twelve
Speaker 4: hundred acres, fifteen hundred acres.
Speaker 3: I took out seventeen coyotes in ten days just on
Speaker 3: that on that area.
Speaker 4: Now that's not to say there wasn't more transients working
Speaker 4: on the you know, the adjoining properties.
Speaker 3: I did that, and then I went back in.
Speaker 4: And I did a little bit of kind of like
Speaker 4: a touch up in the springtime, and I'd do that
Speaker 4: for like raccoons and help the turkey population possom. So
Speaker 4: I'd take out anything I can really for And that
Speaker 4: following season for him, he's like, dude working, He's like,
Speaker 4: I'm starting to like already see a huge So it
Speaker 4: was within a season of doing that that he set.
Speaker 3: You know, and that's not me bs and you or
Speaker 3: anything like he came up to me.
Speaker 4: I saw him at the gas station, you know, in
Speaker 4: our local town, and he's like, dude, I'm seeing like
Speaker 4: a lot more activity, and like the guys at leased
Speaker 4: this with me, he's like, they're starting to like be like,
Speaker 4: hey man, it's actually worth it to pay my money
Speaker 4: to lease this because we're seeing a lot more deer activity.
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: You know, that makes me feel good, And that's what
Speaker 4: it's about, right right.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you want to be successful, you
Speaker 1: got to have more deer, which means you've got to
Speaker 1: have more fonts. But one thing that I will say
Speaker 1: that this is kind of a residual effect are all
Speaker 1: the game animals that probably start making a comeback with
Speaker 1: like a proven calling system for your predators. Quail populations.
Speaker 1: I know where I'm at in western Oklahoma, that used
Speaker 1: to be a massive industry out there. Quail populations your
Speaker 1: I mean your turkey populations. I rarely see a turkey
Speaker 1: out where I'm at, So that's an interesting like residual
Speaker 1: effect of calling your coyotes.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I mean absolutely, And I mean, if I know,
Speaker 4: we only got a certain segment of time, but if
Speaker 4: we had, we could just sit here and I could.
Speaker 4: I love talking about it, and I love talking to
Speaker 4: anyone that wants to listen, you know, so or even
Speaker 4: like differing opinions, because I don't know if that was
Speaker 4: an outlier. Maybe that was just an outlier property, you know.
Speaker 4: But I will tell you something that is torching our our.
Speaker 3: Game here is bobcats. Here in Ohio.
Speaker 4: We have no you can't you can't do anything to
Speaker 4: a bobcat. So you trap it, you have to let
Speaker 4: it go. You can't, you can't hunt them. Uh, And
Speaker 4: they're they're really putting a hurt, especially here.
Speaker 3: In the Appalachia of Ohio.
Speaker 4: They're putting a hurt on the turkey population, the deer population,
Speaker 4: and it's we're the only state in the Midwest that
Speaker 4: doesn't allow a bobcat season.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. Why would you Why would you not?
Speaker 4: I mean, they proposed one around twenty nineteen COVID time
Speaker 4: ish and uh it got shut down pretty much by
Speaker 4: just a lot of activists and of course folks that
Speaker 4: you know, and we we didn't have enough.
Speaker 3: Support on our side, you know, to go.
Speaker 1: And well doesn't that seem how it goes huh, Like
Speaker 1: we want to complain about it, and we want to
Speaker 1: do and we want something to happen, but we're not
Speaker 1: willing to show up or make a call and do
Speaker 1: something about it. Like, how do you not have support
Speaker 1: for that? That's incredible, That's that's a shame. So a
Speaker 1: hold on a second, how do you release a bobcat
Speaker 1: once you have it? Because that that seems like a
Speaker 1: tiger by the tail type of situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a for like a four foot or
Speaker 4: some people use smaller, they'll use tongs. But yes, it's
Speaker 4: a catch pole like a dog warden pole, and they
Speaker 4: have a little noose. You tighten it down, try and
Speaker 4: get their shoulder in and there because they said they
Speaker 4: have a weak wind pipe. I always just put it
Speaker 4: loosely around their neck and then take the trap off
Speaker 4: and then you can kind of guide them. But you know, bobcats,
Speaker 4: they've got some honker of claws. Man, They've got some
Speaker 4: and they're strong. They're like a little pack of dynamite.
Speaker 1: Dude. I couldn't imagine. I'd be like, like, because you
Speaker 1: see all those like YouTube videos and stuff that people
Speaker 1: throwing the like they'll throw the coat over their eyes.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, they won't see this coming, and they
Speaker 1: go in little timid.
Speaker 3: Just do that, you know, yeah, six and one half
Speaker 3: dozen the other right.
Speaker 1: There's no way, there's no way. I would like no,
Speaker 1: like if I didn't have the right tools. So before
Speaker 1: we before we head to a break, really quickly kind
Speaker 1: of discussed the Coyote Academy and like and getting people
Speaker 1: started on this because I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: are interested, but they're like, man, it's like there's a
Speaker 1: time commitment. Yes, there is a time commitment involved in
Speaker 1: a monetary value attached to this, but you can learn
Speaker 1: how to do this efficiently and you've got a whole
Speaker 1: system built around it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now we've been kind of getting a little
Speaker 4: bit more traction on the social media aspect.
Speaker 3: I even decrease the monthly fee.
Speaker 4: So wow, just yeah, just to try and help those out.
Speaker 3: It's it's cheap, man, it's dirt cheap.
Speaker 4: But with the Coyote Academy, we literally go from A
Speaker 4: to Z on what like what is a coyote, what's
Speaker 4: their habitat, what like the biology of it, all the
Speaker 4: way up to getting prepped for your your season with
Speaker 4: their trap, getting your land, getting your missions and then
Speaker 4: even if you want to go through and process the fur,
Speaker 4: or process the glands, or process the skulls, because there
Speaker 4: are some niche markets out there, and you know, if
Speaker 4: you're just doing it just to manage your herd, I
Speaker 4: know a lot of people, you know, they'll just dispatch
Speaker 4: the animal and then kind of you know, let let
Speaker 4: mother nature take care of Yeah, but it's super I mean,
Speaker 4: the kind of academy platform with the subscription base and
Speaker 4: and everything. It's getting revamped as we speak, and it's
Speaker 4: going to be like I want it to be so
Speaker 4: like dumb down that my like my five year old
Speaker 4: daughter can manage and go through that website. And because
Speaker 4: right now, even me looking at it, I'm like, I
Speaker 4: don't like the flow of this, so I'm just having
Speaker 4: it revamped. And but once it's all said and done,
Speaker 4: it should be you know, take you right from stuff
Speaker 4: or from a all the way to z on how
Speaker 4: to you know, deal.
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Speaker 1: down to Tennessee. One of my favorite man he's outdoors,
Speaker 1: he's everything, and I call him an influencer, but he's
Speaker 1: much more than that. He's HOODI who. I know you
Speaker 1: guys have heard of this guy, but he is one
Speaker 1: of the most genuine guys that I know in the
Speaker 1: industry and absolutely one of the hardest workers in the
Speaker 1: deer fields. And he's got some property that he has
Speaker 1: been managing, and I want to find all about it,
Speaker 1: all about it. So all right, Adam Hoody, who welcome.
Speaker 2: In man, thank you for the time introduction.
Speaker 1: You're too kind, well man like, it's just that thing.
Speaker 1: And you and I kind of clicked on our first
Speaker 1: outing together on a outdoor media trip and uh been
Speaker 1: fast friends. And and I love keeping up with your
Speaker 1: channel and your all your platforms. But I really like
Speaker 1: your deer management because you do stuff like you do
Speaker 1: stuff the regular guy has to do. You don't like
Speaker 1: you're not going out and getting all this big equipment
Speaker 1: and you're doing stuff like it seems like the hard way,
Speaker 1: but it's just the normal way.
Speaker 2: It's it's the I think I think you could best
Speaker 2: call it the blue collar way, right oh yeah?
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And and that's kind of the whole thing of everything
Speaker 2: I do is I'm not trying to be somebody I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing what I'm doing and I'm bringing you
Speaker 2: along with me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's definitely One of the things that
Speaker 1: I love about you is because I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like filling the water troughs with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm dragged and you know, see eat
Speaker 1: and everything else with you, and I love it.
Speaker 2: So just I just filled a war trump yesterday.
Speaker 1: You did, I'm telling you like and but it's little
Speaker 1: things like that that matter. Because what you've done is
Speaker 1: you've got a property and you've really kind of started
Speaker 1: to grow that for your deer herd, for your turkey
Speaker 1: herd and really doing it, you know, just because you
Speaker 1: love the game, you love the sport of it, and
Speaker 1: you love to bring your kids along, and you're and
Speaker 1: take your kids out hunting and have them be successful.
Speaker 1: So what lessons do you have you learned by doing
Speaker 1: little things like that.
Speaker 2: So again, just like he was talking about coyote running,
Speaker 2: I could talk about this all day, we could talk
Speaker 2: about this all week. I love talking about this stuff.
Speaker 2: But that's that's a question I get, you know, on
Speaker 2: a daily basis, and kind of the elevator pitch that
Speaker 2: I give people is you know, what do you mean
Speaker 2: to survive? Food, water, shelter. That's what the deer and
Speaker 2: that's what the turkeys need. It's the same thing. And
Speaker 2: of course it depends on the regulations of where you
Speaker 2: live and YadA YadA. But I'll tell you the big
Speaker 2: the biggest swing in what I've done in the past
Speaker 2: two years I got from this guy. I'm a nerd
Speaker 2: for deer stuff. If if there's data published on deer,
Speaker 2: I eat it up. And I love hearing, you know,
Speaker 2: even if it's di people's opinions difficulty, I love to
Speaker 2: eat it up and see what worked for you. If
Speaker 2: it works for you, it might not work for me,
Speaker 2: but it might I won't try. The biggest piece of
Speaker 2: advice that kind of changed my life, if you want
Speaker 2: to call it like that. And in regards to deer
Speaker 2: specifically white till, I used to try to turn up
Speaker 2: all the dirt. I could maximize food plots, like if
Speaker 2: I got you know, whatever it is, five acres, ten acres,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it, you know, all in corn all
Speaker 2: in Soybets. This guy, he actually lives in tenn Steve, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: He has a business called I think it's called Whetstone Properties.
Speaker 2: And I was listening to one of his videos just
Speaker 2: going down the road or something, and he said, no,
Speaker 2: you need more betting habitat. So the past two years
Speaker 2: I've done much smaller food plots and I've let a
Speaker 2: bunch of just natural grasses go and guess what's sure
Speaker 2: enough walking through there? Oh, the deer sleeping here, there's
Speaker 2: a betting spot there. There's a betting spot here where
Speaker 2: much smaller food plots where we still got food for
Speaker 2: them and we got the water drops, but increasing the
Speaker 2: betting area. And last year I shot the biggest buck
Speaker 2: I've ever shot on a six acre piece of land
Speaker 2: and it just, I mean blows my mind. And this
Speaker 2: year I've got more bucks on camera than I've ever had. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I would kick back a big piece of that too,
Speaker 2: increasing the bedding area and making smaller food plots.
Speaker 1: See, And that goes to the thing that it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be. You don't have to have twelve hundred acres,
Speaker 1: you don't have to have twenty four thousand acres. You
Speaker 1: have to have the right five acres though two acres
Speaker 1: like you just have to have the right stuff and
Speaker 1: the right implements there. And whether it's predation control or
Speaker 1: figuring out something like more betting covered to housing there
Speaker 1: because that's their home and they feel comfortable there. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like that is more important than having a
Speaker 1: lot of property, because you have a lot of lot
Speaker 1: of property and it'd be the wrong property.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man. And I don't claim to be
Speaker 2: an expert on anything, but I love talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: my experiences and what worked for me well, and I
Speaker 2: think that's huge if people don't talk about it enough.
Speaker 2: As betting areas per deer.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because I find myself gravitating when season comes.
Speaker 1: I find myself gravitating to those betting areas and hitting
Speaker 1: them when they're coming off the food because they're going
Speaker 1: to spend more time in that betting cover and pushing
Speaker 1: those around, coming in and scin checking those areas than
Speaker 1: they are like on the food plots, because once that
Speaker 1: sun starts to come up, and like a lot of
Speaker 1: my the food plots what I call food plots, they're
Speaker 1: just wheat fields or you know any type of like
Speaker 1: natural you know, grasses. They're going to be off those
Speaker 1: before that sun gets up because they know that's when
Speaker 1: the traffic starts, that's when the like, so they're they're
Speaker 1: headed to bed. So I find myself like focusing more
Speaker 1: attention on that betting cover you're talking about. And I think,
Speaker 1: and we we I have a lot of property to hunt,
Speaker 1: but I find myself more and more hunting smaller areas
Speaker 1: within that property rather than like just hunting the big expanses.
Speaker 2: Wait, and there's another random piece of by just popped
Speaker 2: up in my head, which is gonna sound pretty lame
Speaker 2: when I say it, But I tell this to people
Speaker 2: all the time too. You can't shoot deer where there's
Speaker 2: no deer. I mean, I know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 2: I've spent a lot of time and wasted a lot
Speaker 2: of hours deer hunting where there's no deer. Yeah, and mane,
Speaker 2: that's never gonna work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you too. You go back and you look
Speaker 1: at like because we're talking about the health management of
Speaker 1: the deer, and part of it is predation. Part of
Speaker 1: it is having the right stuff, the nutrition, the betting cover,
Speaker 1: the water, and adding that to your property to enhance it,
Speaker 1: to make it better to draw those deer. And I
Speaker 1: spent you season sitting there hunting a bunch of the
Speaker 1: wrong stuff because I was I keep sometimes I go
Speaker 1: away from I'm like, well, I've seen deer here this
Speaker 1: earlier year, and they're gonna be coming off food, going
Speaker 1: to bedding, and they just never do like you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they let out, you know, like two hundred head
Speaker 1: of cattle, you know, the day before and this is
Speaker 1: not going to happen. But it all goes back to
Speaker 1: that food, water shelter thing. When you start looking at
Speaker 1: where you need to be focusing your attention. How what
Speaker 1: are you doing in your off season? Which we're not
Speaker 1: in off season, we're in the middle of season, but like,
Speaker 1: what's your off season nutrition looks like? Look like?
Speaker 2: So I do spring food plots, I do fall food plots,
Speaker 2: and kind of the same thing. I've tested a lot
Speaker 2: of things in the areas that I hunt as far
Speaker 2: as what what has worked for me and what has
Speaker 2: of worked for me, but the basics of what I
Speaker 2: try to do. I just did two videos on it
Speaker 2: here recently where I show up map here's the property
Speaker 2: on planning and I'm planning this last fall food plot
Speaker 2: I did, I planted six different lens. Okay, so and
Speaker 2: that that that I play it was probably three acres
Speaker 2: on that one. So even three acres, it's not that
Speaker 2: that much. But even inside that three acres, I did
Speaker 2: six different blands. Okay, So whether it's something they're going
Speaker 2: to be eating in September or something like turn ups
Speaker 2: that they're gonna want more in January at the end
Speaker 2: of season, we've got it all.
Speaker 1: There, okay. Just giving them a variety.
Speaker 2: They got to say, they got to say, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we sometimes I think like deer are a
Speaker 1: lot like us, Like sometimes they they want variety. They
Speaker 1: want like they want a buffet, like every night. They
Speaker 1: just don't want steak. And that's so we had planned
Speaker 1: a long time ago because we had gotten out because
Speaker 1: I'm not close to anymore where I can monitor and
Speaker 1: plant and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: We used to plant.
Speaker 1: Whatever the neighbor was doing, we would do pretty much
Speaker 1: the opposite. Like if he's running like just winter wheat,
Speaker 1: I would be like, all right, we're going soybeans or
Speaker 1: something or corn or something like that. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: mixing it up. I'm going the opposite direction of what
Speaker 1: other folks are doing. I don't know if that's a
Speaker 1: good strategy, but we had a lot of lot of
Speaker 1: deer on our place those years.
Speaker 2: Wait and it's something easy to do, especially you know
Speaker 2: if you don't have a bunch of time or the
Speaker 2: tractors or whatever. You're just going out with a rake,
Speaker 2: maybe even in the woods clover and chick Rea. You
Speaker 2: can't go wrong. Yeah, I'm talking about white tell uh.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many bucks I've shot with
Speaker 2: a piece of chick re hanging out their mouths. They
Speaker 2: just eat it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. All right, before before we bring
Speaker 1: everybody back in, before we bring Colton back in, you
Speaker 1: do you always find And that's one of another reasons
Speaker 1: why I love the hoodie hoo channels. Whether you're on Instagram,
Speaker 1: whether you're doing Facebook's or you're doing YouTube, is that
Speaker 1: you're all finding like that random gun or the random
Speaker 1: like what gun have you found recently? You're like that
Speaker 1: you could tell our listeners and our viewers to say,
Speaker 1: this is one gun you haven't thought of or you
Speaker 1: discounted that you really need to check out.
Speaker 2: You mean you mean like a cartridge or like a
Speaker 2: specific model.
Speaker 1: Let's say a specific model. Let's say you're always it
Speaker 1: seems like you're always either at a pawn shop or
Speaker 1: you're always somewhere and you're like, you will not believe
Speaker 1: I found one of the most accurate rifles, like for
Speaker 1: a dirt cheap Riisler. I mean, you always seem to
Speaker 1: come up with some really interesting fines.
Speaker 2: Well, and this is something I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: can of worms too. Part of what I do and
Speaker 2: what I enjoy doing is I can say that as
Speaker 2: a blanket statement because I've proved it. Zo point nine
Speaker 2: percent of rifles will shoot great if you feed them
Speaker 2: the right ammo and you have half decent trigger control.
Speaker 2: You might have to test ten different types of AMMO
Speaker 2: for that one, but almost any gun, I don't care
Speaker 2: it was a three dollars three or a two thousand
Speaker 2: dollars gun. You can get just about any gun to
Speaker 2: shoot well. But a lot of stuff I do is
Speaker 2: budget friendly because that's kind of what I do is
Speaker 2: a blue collar toff. I'm not rich guy. I'm going
Speaker 2: to the store and say, what's the cheapest thirty out
Speaker 2: six you got? Uh, I'm gonna rattle off a couple.
Speaker 2: So Savage has the three three four, or it came
Speaker 2: out called the Steams three through four. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's like it's gonna be the cheapest gun that your
Speaker 2: shot has. And I've had the thirty out six. I've
Speaker 2: had the two forty three, I've had the six to
Speaker 2: five Creeblaw. All of them shot less than an end group.
Speaker 2: Super cheap gun. Savage has the one ten Trill Hunter.
Speaker 2: I love that rifle. Threaded barrel to heavy barrel. Almost
Speaker 2: every hunting caliber, every single one I bought small groups.
Speaker 2: Ruger Americans are super popular. I bought pretty much everyone
Speaker 2: they ever came out with. I've got a no One
Speaker 2: on the way right now. If you haven't heard of it,
Speaker 2: you might have Kay Jake, because you're in the know
Speaker 2: on everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just found out about it. Actually, a video coming
Speaker 2: out tonight about this Ruger just came out with the
Speaker 2: Ruger American Prairie. It's a bull barrel Ruger American.
Speaker 1: No, see, I did not know about that.
Speaker 2: I just ordered one from my shop. I saw it
Speaker 2: on a website. Yeah, sure enough. It got launched like
Speaker 2: five six days ago. I called my shop and said,
Speaker 2: ordered me one of these guns. Yeah up, broke bull
Speaker 2: barrel budget friendly bull barrel America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll help you guys out for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: bull barrels are They might not be fun to carry,
Speaker 1: but man, if you're hunting from a stand or something.
Speaker 1: They're great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: As the last one that I absolutely love is a
Speaker 2: CBA cascade. I know you know about those, but fed
Speaker 2: a bunch of those and they shoot good in front
Speaker 2: of money, They're great.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: All right, let's head into final shots because I want
Speaker 1: to hear what Colton has to say, anything he wants
Speaker 1: to say. You know this, this is his time to
Speaker 1: kind of reflect on what we've talked about and also
Speaker 1: to tell you guys where to go, like where to
Speaker 1: find out more about the Coyote Academy and all that
Speaker 1: good stuff. Goldon, Welcome back, and I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you your final shots. Just what do you got on
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 4: Well, hey, thanks, I just honestly thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: You know, I've I've kind of been a fan of
Speaker 4: yours and actually Whodi Who's for a while. I am
Speaker 4: watched you do the Savage two forty three precision I believe,
Speaker 4: or were you doing a six' five Creed, MORE i don't.
Speaker 4: KNOW i watched you shoot, that And i've really.
Speaker 3: Got in to the the thermal side of predator control and.
Speaker 4: Coyotes so Now i'm not only just doing the trapping,
Speaker 4: aspect But i'm expanding into the predator control with thermals at,
Speaker 4: night and, HONESTLY i think that's going to be a
Speaker 4: huge game changer for a lot of a lot of
Speaker 4: folks when it comes to having me manage their property
Speaker 4: or or help out with their tear. Heard but, yeah
Speaker 4: my final thoughts, are, MAN i Just i'm, thankful very
Speaker 4: fortunate to even being your guys'.
Speaker 1: Presence honest, man we love having you. On i'm definitely,
Speaker 1: HEY i have some property In. Oklahoma you are welcome
Speaker 1: to cover it anytime you. Want i'll drop you all
Speaker 1: the pins you. Want you can have any kyote you.
Speaker 1: WANT i did shoot one during you. Season that, man
Speaker 1: his hide was absolutely, gorgeous AND i DON'T i don't
Speaker 1: know if it was just he got lucky and you,
Speaker 1: know he's just they're. Beautiful this time of the, YEAR.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree. MORE i.
Speaker 4: HAVE i usually start trapping In, october and just with
Speaker 4: my work schedule and being Because i'm a provider.
Speaker 3: In the medical, FIELD i just.
Speaker 4: CAN'T i didn't have the time, well and Also i'm
Speaker 4: taking a lot on my vacation time to go out
Speaker 4: west to help those guys out, Right So i'll be doing,
Speaker 4: multiple multiple trips out, There SO i might take you
Speaker 4: up on hitting That oklahoma piece for.
Speaker 1: You anything you, want it's your take them. All all,
Speaker 1: right let's jump over to Hoo. Doi who adam what
Speaker 1: you got for final?
Speaker 2: Shots, yeah it's the same thing coming Through. TENNESSEE i
Speaker 2: mean you call, me, uh we'll hang. Out i've actually
Speaker 2: got coyotes that leave me a prison just about every
Speaker 2: night my. Driveway believ or. Not, yeah it's. Ridiculous small
Speaker 2: tidbit FACT i live. Into In. Tennessee it is illegal
Speaker 2: for us to night hunt coyotes with. Terminals and that's
Speaker 2: the dumbest. Law every state that Touches, tennessee you can do.
Speaker 2: It i've got cattle farmers all the time that call
Speaker 2: me the friends of friends and can you have that
Speaker 2: guy come out shoe? Coyotes AND i, say absolutely, not it's.
Speaker 2: ILLEGAL i can't do. It i'll come in the daytime
Speaker 2: and call and they're, like well that's not when they're
Speaker 2: messing with my. COWS i, said call the. STATE i
Speaker 2: can't do anything about. It so that's kind of a.
Speaker 2: Bummer in our. State last year they did change the
Speaker 2: law where we can we can have a thermal on a.
Speaker 2: Shotgun oh, wow it's it's either the first thirty minutes
Speaker 2: or first hour of darks that and it's only on a.
Speaker 2: Shotgun no, WAY i don't even want fool with.
Speaker 1: That but, yeah, shotgun come, on that's. Ridiculous can you have?
Speaker 2: Suppressors oh, yeah, yeah, yeah we could have suppressors on
Speaker 2: anything we.
Speaker 3: Want but See. Illinois my buddy lives In illinois and
Speaker 3: they can't have.
Speaker 5: Suppressors so LIKE da going every state AND i you know,
Speaker 5: what you guys would be great Because Mike perkins over
Speaker 5: The whiskey And windage, podcast he wants to do an
Speaker 5: episode over just that exactly what you guys are, talking
Speaker 5: the crazy hunting rules from states across the.
Speaker 1: COUNTRY i talked to.
Speaker 2: Him he lives near near, mate that. Dude he is.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal he is good People and if y'all y'all need
Speaker 1: to hook up for, sure but we'll get we'll get
Speaker 1: you guys on and we'll talk weird hunting rules from
Speaker 1: across the nation since we're all over.
Speaker 2: ANYWAY i got more stories on that. Too, yeah so.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a whole, thing all. Right, okay here's
Speaker 1: my final. Shots thank, you guys for joining. In whether
Speaker 1: you're out, west whether you're in the, southeast or whether
Speaker 1: they're in you're. North herd management. Matters if you want
Speaker 1: to better your herd through, nutrition through predatory, control it's
Speaker 1: time to do. It and like both my guests, say
Speaker 1: like they started as just curiosity and it is exploded
Speaker 1: into what they are. Now so get out, there manage those,
Speaker 1: properties manage those, predators and you're going to have more
Speaker 1: success in the deer. Fields that's it for. Me guntalk,
Speaker 1: hunters you know the, drill keep those muscles point in
Speaker 1: a safe direction and always be on the.
Speaker 2: Hunt