WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.399 On Gun Talk Hunt. Today, we go up to Ohio 2 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:05.599 and talk predation control and down to Tennessee to talk 3 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:07.879 nutrition to better your dear health. 4 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:15.240 I'm kJ. You found the right place. We go all 5 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:15.759 over this. 6 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:19.559 Little blue orb sharing stories and tactics about chasing wild gang. 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:27.839 Now let's get on the hunt. Welcome in all you 8 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:30.039 gun talk hunters. I am your host, kJ, and this 9 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.399 episode is brought to you by Arrange Ready Studios, Ruger Firearms, 10 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:37.640 and Remington Ammo check out those deadliest mushrooms in the woods. 11 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:43.679 All right, so here we go. Do you want a 12 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:46.640 better herd? Do you want a better deer herd? Well, 13 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:51.880 I've got two guys that really specialize in managing deer 14 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:56.479 herds and growing the biggest bucks possible. And one of 15 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:01.920 them helps manage predator popular and the other one man, 16 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:04.439 he's just a deer killer. We've got Colton Morris of 17 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:08.159 the Coyote Academy. And who do you who? Mister Adam 18 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.640 Weiss with us? All right, First, let's go over to 19 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:16.879 Colton Morris. And if you guys don't know him, haven't 20 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:20.799 seen his stuff on YouTube, go check him out at 21 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:24.799 Coyote Academy. You're gonna like what you see there. I'm 22 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:27.159 telling you what he Every time I talk to this guy, 23 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.760 he makes me want to go just kill every predator 24 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.000 out there. Welcome in Colton. 25 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:36.400 Thanks for having me, all right, buddy. 26 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:41.079 Now, when I first brought up the topic, uh, you know, 27 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.640 managing your deer herd, Like, you're the first guy that 28 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:46.599 really you really, you and Adam are some of the 29 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:50.280 first guys that came to mind when it talks about 30 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:53.319 growing a herd. But you do it a little bit differently. 31 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.879 You're not in it for managing herds. You're in for 32 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.000 the predation, getting rid of those editors in order to 33 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:03.920 grow those herds. So talk a little bit about like 34 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.760 how you develop that and how you got into it. 35 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.439 So this has been pretty much an ongoing thing for 36 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:13.639 all of decades. But I really got into the predator 37 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:17.840 side of it back in twenty seventeen after I got 38 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:22.159 out of school. Excuse me, and I just I was 39 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.560 enamored with coyotes, anything to do with coyotes, whether it 40 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.400 was you know, trapping coyotes, and then it got into 41 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:32.719 hunting coyotes. And to be honest with you, I didn't 42 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:37.080 really see I didn't know how the impact was going 43 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:37.360 to be. 44 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:40.439 I guess I didn't have that forethought. 45 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.960 And man, I started getting on with like all these 46 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:48.080 guys that have these deer leases and they have twelve 47 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.000 hundred and fifteen hundred acres and they're like, man, we 48 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.840 used to get so many fonds on camera, we used 49 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.439 to get you know, all this, we're not seeing any activity. 50 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.479 I'm like, well, you know, maybe we had EHD come through. 51 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:03.000 We've had some other things come through, but what's one 52 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:06.680 thing that you can definitely take care of or manage 53 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.360 and that's the predators on the on the property that 54 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:16.039 could be causing an effect to that herd or building 55 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:20.520 a good herd. So I started and I've been trapping 56 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:22.919 on this property since twenty seventeen. 57 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.240 And the guy, the guy's son just killed a monster 58 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:31.919 buck out there, so it so there was sweet. 59 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:39.240 So it seems to me like the mortality rate of fawns, 60 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:45.000 I mean, it's obviously act a direct reflection of like 61 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:48.919 that coyote pressure and putting pressure on those coyotes and 62 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:51.719 getting them gone. I mean it seems like that's I mean, 63 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.400 it's natural, right. 64 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:57.280 But then you'll have the folks say, well, if you 65 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:01.479 go in there and you start killing the coyotes, they're 66 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:02.159 just going to. 67 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.680 Multiply. You know, they're going to keep getting more and more. 68 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.520 That's not so much the case if you can be 69 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.280 on them, especially during like when they're dropping their fawns. 70 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.399 So you know when the deer out there kind of 71 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:20.439 getting that, you know, that whole process going because at 72 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.160 the same time, you have coyotes that are starting to 73 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:27.000 whelp their pups, so they've got to be feeding them constantly, 74 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.319 and they you know, they get they get off of 75 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.079 I guess the nipple or whatever you want to Yeah, 76 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.240 and then they you know, they go to solids. So 77 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:41.680 you see a you see a huge hit you know, 78 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:45.000 in your small game even up to your some of 79 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:45.759 your larger game. 80 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.240 Well and it like so when they when those kyotes 81 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:55.240 start coming off, coming off and eating solid foods, that's 82 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.040 usually around the same time as those fawns start to develop, 83 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.040 like they really start to develop and they're starting to 84 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:06.240 you know, move around a little bit more. But you 85 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:09.040 don't I haven't seen in my area. You do not 86 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:11.959 see a whole lot of fawns anymore. I mean it's 87 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.240 you know, you used to see like deer with like 88 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.279 you know, twins or triplets, and now you really don't 89 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.439 see a lot of that. It's it's singles here and 90 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:22.199 singles there. 91 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.240 Yeah, you know, to kind of segue back to, you know, 92 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:32.120 how did this all grow and become what it is now? 93 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.279 It just it went from the point of me seeing 94 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.319 like the success rate on this guy's property and another 95 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.040 gentleman's property, and then you know, other guys are saying, man, 96 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.920 this is really beneficial. And so it went from kind 97 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:53.120 of just as becoming a hobby me doing it, you know, 98 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.160 and then I was like, man, I can maybe start 99 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.439 doing this full full time or at least seasonal right, 100 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:03.639 And then you know, thankfully I've met some great contacts, 101 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:08.560 some guys out west in Oklahoma and Texas, Kansas, and 102 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.240 I go out there and I help manage their their 103 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:14.040 issues too. So but I do that more so for 104 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:15.360 the livestock side. 105 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:23.639 Right, Well, that's a whole nother ballgame that's actually protecting investments. 106 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:24.920 Right, you know. And I mean and so, but. 107 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.560 So how did I guess? I guess where I want 108 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.639 to go with this is when do you start and 109 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.399 how many years does it take to start seeing a benefit? 110 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:39.639 I mean, or if guys are like, you know what 111 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.720 we need to start, you know, thenning out the herd 112 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:47.439 as far as coyotes and predators are concerned, whether it's bobcats, coyotes, 113 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.519 whatever it is. How what's the return rate on that? Like, 114 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.120 how when should they start noticing a difference. 115 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.240 So I went in back in twenty eighteen to the 116 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.480 deer lease that I got hooked up with my buddy 117 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:07.920 Seth now and twenty eighteen, I went in on twelve 118 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:10.480 hundred acres, fifteen hundred acres. 119 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:15.839 I took out seventeen coyotes in ten days just on 120 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:17.639 that on that area. 121 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.199 Now that's not to say there wasn't more transients working 122 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:23.680 on the you know, the adjoining properties. 123 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.480 I did that, and then I went back in. 124 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:27.879 And I did a little bit of kind of like 125 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:31.759 a touch up in the springtime, and I'd do that 126 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.600 for like raccoons and help the turkey population possom. So 127 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:41.399 I'd take out anything I can really for And that 128 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.720 following season for him, he's like, dude working, He's like, 129 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.000 I'm starting to like already see a huge So it 130 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:52.439 was within a season of doing that that he set. 131 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.759 You know, and that's not me bs and you or 132 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.160 anything like he came up to me. 133 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.279 I saw him at the gas station, you know, in 134 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:02.519 our local town, and he's like, dude, I'm seeing like 135 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:06.079 a lot more activity, and like the guys at leased 136 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:08.720 this with me, he's like, they're starting to like be like, 137 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:11.560 hey man, it's actually worth it to pay my money 138 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.279 to lease this because we're seeing a lot more deer activity. 139 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:16.480 And I was like, that's awesome. 140 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:19.000 You know, that makes me feel good, And that's what 141 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:20.439 it's about, right right. 142 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:23.240 Well, I mean, if you want to be successful, you 143 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.439 got to have more deer, which means you've got to 144 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.560 have more fonts. But one thing that I will say 145 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.639 that this is kind of a residual effect are all 146 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.759 the game animals that probably start making a comeback with 147 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:41.679 like a proven calling system for your predators. Quail populations. 148 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.960 I know where I'm at in western Oklahoma, that used 149 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:51.840 to be a massive industry out there. Quail populations your 150 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:55.440 I mean your turkey populations. I rarely see a turkey 151 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:59.120 out where I'm at, So that's an interesting like residual 152 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:01.639 effect of calling your coyotes. 153 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.440 Oh dude, I mean absolutely, And I mean, if I know, 154 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.200 we only got a certain segment of time, but if 155 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.200 we had, we could just sit here and I could. 156 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:13.320 I love talking about it, and I love talking to 157 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:19.759 anyone that wants to listen, you know, so or even 158 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:24.679 like differing opinions, because I don't know if that was 159 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.000 an outlier. Maybe that was just an outlier property, you know. 160 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:33.120 But I will tell you something that is torching our our. 161 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.320 Game here is bobcats. Here in Ohio. 162 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.679 We have no you can't you can't do anything to 163 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.879 a bobcat. So you trap it, you have to let 164 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.639 it go. You can't, you can't hunt them. Uh, And 165 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.919 they're they're really putting a hurt, especially here. 166 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:50.120 In the Appalachia of Ohio. 167 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.759 They're putting a hurt on the turkey population, the deer population, 168 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.879 and it's we're the only state in the Midwest that 169 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:59.879 doesn't allow a bobcat season. 170 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.440 That's ridiculous. Why would you Why would you not? 171 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:11.960 I mean, they proposed one around twenty nineteen COVID time 172 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:15.720 ish and uh it got shut down pretty much by 173 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:20.320 just a lot of activists and of course folks that 174 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:22.840 you know, and we we didn't have enough. 175 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.759 Support on our side, you know, to go. 176 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.679 And well doesn't that seem how it goes huh, Like 177 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.799 we want to complain about it, and we want to 178 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:35.799 do and we want something to happen, but we're not 179 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.840 willing to show up or make a call and do 180 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.159 something about it. Like, how do you not have support 181 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:47.159 for that? That's incredible, That's that's a shame. So a 182 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.679 hold on a second, how do you release a bobcat 183 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.600 once you have it? Because that that seems like a 184 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:54.399 tiger by the tail type of situation. 185 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:59.639 Yeah, it's just a for like a four foot or 186 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:02.639 some people use smaller, they'll use tongs. But yes, it's 187 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:05.279 a catch pole like a dog warden pole, and they 188 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:08.240 have a little noose. You tighten it down, try and 189 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.840 get their shoulder in and there because they said they 190 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.000 have a weak wind pipe. I always just put it 191 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.759 loosely around their neck and then take the trap off 192 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.720 and then you can kind of guide them. But you know, bobcats, 193 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.480 they've got some honker of claws. Man, They've got some 194 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:27.799 and they're strong. They're like a little pack of dynamite. 195 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:32.759 Dude. I couldn't imagine. I'd be like, like, because you 196 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:34.919 see all those like YouTube videos and stuff that people 197 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.759 throwing the like they'll throw the coat over their eyes. 198 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.679 They're like, oh, they won't see this coming, and they 199 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:42.679 go in little timid. 200 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:47.559 Just do that, you know, yeah, six and one half 201 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:48.600 dozen the other right. 202 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:51.799 There's no way, there's no way. I would like no, 203 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:56.120 like if I didn't have the right tools. So before 204 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:00.399 we before we head to a break, really quickly kind 205 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:04.519 of discussed the Coyote Academy and like and getting people 206 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:06.440 started on this because I know a lot of people 207 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:08.919 are interested, but they're like, man, it's like there's a 208 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.440 time commitment. Yes, there is a time commitment involved in 209 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:15.159 a monetary value attached to this, but you can learn 210 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.639 how to do this efficiently and you've got a whole 211 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:19.960 system built around it. 212 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:21.279 Yeah. 213 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.600 Yeah, and now we've been kind of getting a little 214 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:26.720 bit more traction on the social media aspect. 215 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:31.080 I even decrease the monthly fee. 216 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.480 So wow, just yeah, just to try and help those out. 217 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.279 It's it's cheap, man, it's dirt cheap. 218 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:41.519 But with the Coyote Academy, we literally go from A 219 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.360 to Z on what like what is a coyote, what's 220 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.879 their habitat, what like the biology of it, all the 221 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:52.480 way up to getting prepped for your your season with 222 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:57.000 their trap, getting your land, getting your missions and then 223 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.720 even if you want to go through and process the fur, 224 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:04.559 or process the glands, or process the skulls, because there 225 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:08.840 are some niche markets out there, and you know, if 226 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.759 you're just doing it just to manage your herd, I 227 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:15.879 know a lot of people, you know, they'll just dispatch 228 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:19.320 the animal and then kind of you know, let let 229 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:25.080 mother nature take care of Yeah, but it's super I mean, 230 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:29.919 the kind of academy platform with the subscription base and 231 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:34.279 and everything. It's getting revamped as we speak, and it's 232 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.440 going to be like I want it to be so 233 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:40.240 like dumb down that my like my five year old 234 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:43.440 daughter can manage and go through that website. And because 235 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.639 right now, even me looking at it, I'm like, I 236 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.559 don't like the flow of this, so I'm just having 237 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.960 it revamped. And but once it's all said and done, 238 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.320 it should be you know, take you right from stuff 239 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.080 or from a all the way to z on how 240 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:00.720 to you know, deal. 241 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.679 With these That's awesome, All right, thanks Carlton. 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I know you 281 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:34.519 guys have heard of this guy, but he is one 282 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:36.559 of the most genuine guys that I know in the 283 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.879 industry and absolutely one of the hardest workers in the 284 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:42.120 deer fields. And he's got some property that he has 285 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:44.840 been managing, and I want to find all about it, 286 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:49.080 all about it. So all right, Adam Hoody, who welcome. 287 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:52.240 In man, thank you for the time introduction. 288 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.440 You're too kind, well man like, it's just that thing. 289 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.120 And you and I kind of clicked on our first 290 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:02.759 outing together on a outdoor media trip and uh been 291 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:06.640 fast friends. And and I love keeping up with your 292 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:12.920 channel and your all your platforms. But I really like 293 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:17.359 your deer management because you do stuff like you do 294 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.960 stuff the regular guy has to do. You don't like 295 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:23.440 you're not going out and getting all this big equipment 296 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:27.640 and you're doing stuff like it seems like the hard way, 297 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.039 but it's just the normal way. 298 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.559 It's it's the I think I think you could best 299 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:36.920 call it the blue collar way, right oh yeah? 300 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:37.559 Uh. 301 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:40.880 And and that's kind of the whole thing of everything 302 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:44.200 I do is I'm not trying to be somebody I'm not. 303 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.640 I'm just doing what I'm doing and I'm bringing you 304 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.319 along with me, you know what I mean. 305 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:51.960 Yeah, And that's that's definitely One of the things that 306 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.240 I love about you is because I feel like I'm 307 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.920 I feel like I'm like filling the water troughs with you. 308 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.200 I feel like I'm dragged and you know, see eat 309 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.000 and everything else with you, and I love it. 310 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.799 So just I just filled a war trump yesterday. 311 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:10.400 You did, I'm telling you like and but it's little 312 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:14.720 things like that that matter. Because what you've done is 313 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:18.640 you've got a property and you've really kind of started 314 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:21.720 to grow that for your deer herd, for your turkey 315 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.759 herd and really doing it, you know, just because you 316 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.720 love the game, you love the sport of it, and 317 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.160 you love to bring your kids along, and you're and 318 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.119 take your kids out hunting and have them be successful. 319 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.240 So what lessons do you have you learned by doing 320 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:38.319 little things like that. 321 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:45.440 So again, just like he was talking about coyote running, 322 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:47.160 I could talk about this all day, we could talk 323 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.079 about this all week. I love talking about this stuff. 324 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.680 But that's that's a question I get, you know, on 325 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:57.279 a daily basis, and kind of the elevator pitch that 326 00:18:57.359 --> 00:18:59.160 I give people is you know, what do you mean 327 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:04.119 to survive? Food, water, shelter. That's what the deer and 328 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:07.279 that's what the turkeys need. It's the same thing. And 329 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:09.839 of course it depends on the regulations of where you 330 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:13.039 live and YadA YadA. But I'll tell you the big 331 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:18.160 the biggest swing in what I've done in the past 332 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.720 two years I got from this guy. I'm a nerd 333 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:25.519 for deer stuff. If if there's data published on deer, 334 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.200 I eat it up. And I love hearing, you know, 335 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:31.759 even if it's di people's opinions difficulty, I love to 336 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.359 eat it up and see what worked for you. If 337 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:35.680 it works for you, it might not work for me, 338 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.240 but it might I won't try. The biggest piece of 339 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:41.400 advice that kind of changed my life, if you want 340 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:43.400 to call it like that. And in regards to deer 341 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:47.400 specifically white till, I used to try to turn up 342 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:51.559 all the dirt. I could maximize food plots, like if 343 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.960 I got you know, whatever it is, five acres, ten acres, 344 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:56.200 I'm gonna do it, you know, all in corn all 345 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:00.839 in Soybets. This guy, he actually lives in tenn Steve, Tennessee. 346 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:04.799 He has a business called I think it's called Whetstone Properties. 347 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.920 And I was listening to one of his videos just 348 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.759 going down the road or something, and he said, no, 349 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:16.920 you need more betting habitat. So the past two years 350 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:21.319 I've done much smaller food plots and I've let a 351 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:25.960 bunch of just natural grasses go and guess what's sure 352 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:30.240 enough walking through there? Oh, the deer sleeping here, there's 353 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.960 a betting spot there. There's a betting spot here where 354 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:36.240 much smaller food plots where we still got food for 355 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.839 them and we got the water drops, but increasing the 356 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:43.720 betting area. And last year I shot the biggest buck 357 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:47.920 I've ever shot on a six acre piece of land 358 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:52.680 and it just, I mean blows my mind. And this 359 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.839 year I've got more bucks on camera than I've ever had. Yeah, 360 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:01.279 and I would kick back a big piece of that too, 361 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:04.559 increasing the bedding area and making smaller food plots. 362 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.519 See, And that goes to the thing that it doesn't 363 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.279 have to be. You don't have to have twelve hundred acres, 364 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:13.960 you don't have to have twenty four thousand acres. You 365 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:17.799 have to have the right five acres though two acres 366 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:19.720 like you just have to have the right stuff and 367 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:23.680 the right implements there. And whether it's predation control or 368 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:26.759 figuring out something like more betting covered to housing there 369 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.920 because that's their home and they feel comfortable there. Like 370 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.160 I feel like that is more important than having a 371 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:35.599 lot of property, because you have a lot of lot 372 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:37.400 of property and it'd be the wrong property. 373 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.640 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man. And I don't claim to be 374 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:45.480 an expert on anything, but I love talking about, you know, 375 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.880 my experiences and what worked for me well, and I 376 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:50.920 think that's huge if people don't talk about it enough. 377 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:52.400 As betting areas per deer. 378 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:57.079 Well, it's interesting because I find myself gravitating when season comes. 379 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:01.759 I find myself gravitating to those betting areas and hitting 380 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:03.680 them when they're coming off the food because they're going 381 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:07.559 to spend more time in that betting cover and pushing 382 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.839 those around, coming in and scin checking those areas than 383 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:14.000 they are like on the food plots, because once that 384 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:16.160 sun starts to come up, and like a lot of 385 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:18.519 my the food plots what I call food plots, they're 386 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:21.480 just wheat fields or you know any type of like 387 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.720 natural you know, grasses. They're going to be off those 388 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:29.440 before that sun gets up because they know that's when 389 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.880 the traffic starts, that's when the like, so they're they're 390 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:36.000 headed to bed. So I find myself like focusing more 391 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:41.880 attention on that betting cover you're talking about. And I think, 392 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:47.119 and we we I have a lot of property to hunt, 393 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:50.960 but I find myself more and more hunting smaller areas 394 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.960 within that property rather than like just hunting the big expanses. 395 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.720 Wait, and there's another random piece of by just popped 396 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.839 up in my head, which is gonna sound pretty lame 397 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:05.559 when I say it, But I tell this to people 398 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.799 all the time too. You can't shoot deer where there's 399 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:13.119 no deer. I mean, I know what I'm saying, but 400 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.480 I've spent a lot of time and wasted a lot 401 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:20.160